"Scarface" Al Capone: Mobster Par Excellence

Today’s the birthday of Al Capone

Notorious gangster and world-wide known.

Perhaps the most ruthless of law-breaking men

Till evading his taxes put him in the pen.

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  • The illustration reminds me that Portillo's was festooned with Al Capone quotes, until newer restaurants were decorated in a 1960s motif instead of as a 1920s garage.

  • In reply to jack:

    I lived near Clark Street for a long time. I don't think I could have eaten in a '20s garage!

  • Great post, AW! I wonder if tax evasion and not conspiracy to insurrection will be the undoing of the former guy...

  • In reply to Weather Girl:

    I don't know what the NY district attorney found, but he has had the records for a year, and hasn't done anything yet.

    The articles on the Oath Keepers being arrested for seditious conspiracy (e.g. The Washington Post) point out the rarity and difficulty of proving such charges. 18 USC 2384: Seditious conspiracy requires that 2 or more persons conspire. Maybe Congress, by subpoenaing insiders, is trying to determine if the former occupant planned with others, but no such evidence has been disclosed yet, and Congress seems more inclined to turn the contempt charges to the DOJ. By using the term "insurrection," you may have stumbled onto §2383. Rebellion or insurrection: "Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto..." but the difficult questions would be whether the speech came within the First Amendment or was "yelling fire," and, as while discussed back on Margaret Serious, whether a government authority can rebel against itself, although this does seem against "the laws thereof."

  • In reply to jack:

    Thank you, Jack! I wondered why these charges would be so difficult to prove.

  • In reply to jack:

    Don't be impatient. Both the New York and the DOJ attorneys know that they cannot afford to get an indictment against the Big Man until they have their evidence lined up. They are not permitted to act like the House of Representatives did, and file charges they know would be met by an acquittal. All conspiracies can be tricky to prosecute, but prosecutors regularly get convictions, even of well-financed defendants. Seditious conspiracy has some of its own problems, but they are not insurmountable:

    "Seditious conspiracy statute did not on its face violate First Amendment, inasmuch as it proscribed 'speech' only when it constituted an agreement to use force against the United States.  U.S. v. Rahman, C.A.2 (N.Y.) 1999, 189 F.3d 88,

    If seditious conspiracy fails, both New York and the DOJ are interested in tax evasion. It would be tough to hide behind the First Amendment for that one.

    Neither the state nor the federal prosecutors need to rush the investigation. They are likely to wait as long as they need to so long as evidence is being uncovered. They may not decide until the statute of limitations forces them to act.

  • In reply to jnorto:

    Thank you, jnorto-- You explain this so well! I am impatient, i admit. And we must not forget!

  • In reply to jnorto:

    I was only pointing out that nothing's happened. I generally agree with what you posted, but (at least according to the target), the IRS has been auditing him for over 25 years, and hasn't done anything. Given how pass-through and developer entities work, I don't think they will. For instance, it was disclosed and pretty well admitted that he had a $1 billion loss carry forward, but nothing was done about that. Since WG brought up criminal tax evasion, the statute of limitations is 6 years (26 USC 6531), so anything going back to 1995 is too late. NY law seems similar

  • In reply to jack:

    More came out yesterday from NY Attorney General Letitia James' office. In a federal court suit filed by Trump to block NY from enforcing subpoenas on Trump and his family in a civil fraud case, the NYAG filed a response.

    "Ms. James’s filing argued that the company misstated the value of the properties to lenders, insurers and the Internal Revenue Service. Many of the statements, the filing argued, were “generally inflated as part of a pattern to suggest that Mr. Trump’s net worth was higher than it otherwise would have appeared.” (NYTimes)

    Discovery in civil cases can help flush out evidence useful in criminal prosecutions. Trump knows this well. That is why he is fighting every step taken by anybody anywhere.

  • In reply to jnorto:

    Whatever charge would be a felony (such as scheme to defraud) is subject to a 5 year statute of limitations (CPL 30.10). However, various media sources indicate that James does not have criminal jurisdiction, and Exec Law 63(12) basically only gives her the power to seek injunctive relief.

  • In reply to Weather Girl:

    Ahh, what a thought.

  • Thank you, Jack--I really appreciate your legal expertise, and your explanation! Yes, must be patient--justice can't be rushed. It's been a little over a year, now, and so much has happened since then. But we must not forget! .

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