If Trump lied that Obama tapped his phones, he should be impeached


“The president cited zero sources and gave zero evidence for these earthshaking claims, and even his top aides were reportedly caught flat-footed by them. Then, he changed the subject from this allegedly momentous scandal he had just discovered to tweet about Arnold Schwarzenegger’s low ratings as host of The Apprentice. And then he headed out to go golfing.”   [vox.com]


Is Trump with impunity able to libel

By tweeting Obama’s felonious?

So much for the oath that he swore on the Bible

If deliberately he’s erroneous.





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  • In theory, at least, you have a point. Criminal libel was a crime at common law and as recently as 1952 the U.S. Supreme Court held that making it a crime is constitutional. Given the power of congress to define high crimes and misdemeanors for purposes of Article II, they could decide that criminal libel qualifies.

    However, given the Republican control of both houses, it is hard to envision either an impeachment or a conviction.

  • In reply to jnorto:

    The main point has been made about 2 weeks ago, including by Prof. Geoff Stone.

    However, on the second point, I still say that at some point the Republicans will figure they will be better off with Pence. I don't think we are at that point yet. However, this is the inverse of that Agnew was all there was to keep Nixon from being impeached, and Nixon was eventually forced out without being impeached.

  • In reply to jack:

    I think Stone was talking about the likelihood of Obama winning a civil defamation suit against Trump, not using the libel for impeachment.

  • In reply to jnorto:

    The idea is out there and can be Googled. Maybe I crossed wires with Noah Feldman, Trump's Wiretap Tweets Raise Risk of Impeachment.

  • I am not sure what your point is, but, no, I did not take my idea from Noah Feldman at Bloomberg News. His is a poor analysis of "high crimes and misdemeanors." If I were to plagiarize an idea, I would pick a better source.

  • In reply to jnorto:

    No, I just said that AW's point has been made by others. I cited Feldman because you said it wasn't Stone.

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