At least 12 U.S. service members killed in Kabul. What now?

Will Biden finally do the right thing?

At least 12 Marines and 60 Afghans were killed at the Kabul airport by terrorists.

Another 15 U.S. service member and 200 Afghans were wounded.

The last U.S. members to be killed in Afghanistan was in February, 2020.

A crush of humanity was at the gates, spite the warning of a terrorist attack. Some U.S. military were on the wall, bravely trying to screen those squeezed between a wall and a sewage canal, in panic.

Those service members were in an impossible situation, trying to prevent terrorists from getting inside the airport on the tarmac or onto a plane. Also to prevent the kind of crowd scene when they flooded a runway as an airplane was trying to take off.

Heroically, by the White House count, the American military evacuated some 100,000 refuges. Some 1,500 Americans are still there, probably abandoned and used possibly as hostages. Uncounted thousands of Afghans who aided the United States during the 20-year war also are trapped. They and their families face death, some by beheading.

What next? Will Biden finally do what is right?

Silence for the past five hours from the White House. Biden’s going to send John Kirby, Pentagon spokesman, out to take the heat. I can’t imagine when and what Biden will tell the nation when he finally emerges.

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  • Yes, Dennis, the service members who died today join the 2,372 U.S. service members who have already died in this unnecessary war in Afghanistan. And those injured today will join the 20,320 others. Let us pray that this military operation will be successfully completed with as few additional deaths and injuries as possible.

    May God bless our troops and their commander-in-chief.

  • In reply to jnorto:

    It will take more than prayers.

  • In reply to jnorto:

    As the Left is fond of saying, keep your "thoughts and prayers," and do something.

  • In reply to jnorto:

    "Yes, Dennis, the service members who died today join the 2,372 U.S. service members who have already died in this unnecessary war in Afghanistan. "
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    Sorry, I cannot put Afghanistan in the same bin as Iraq. We invaded Afghanistan because the government (Taliban) sheltered our enemy (bin Laden) and refused to turn him over. That refusal and action (sheltering a combatant) is a recognized act of war, and justified invasion.

    The problem was the mission creep thereafter, for spurious goals. We should have just worked with the warlords and others to install a stable government that was consistent with Afghan society and goals. Democracy need not apply. Be nice if it was democratic, but the U.S. was wrong to insist on it.

  • In reply to Grundoon:

    Why do you conclude that sheltering a combatant is a recognized act of war, justifying invasion?

  • In reply to jnorto:

    Because it says so in all the recognized treatises on international law dealing with armed conflict.

  • In reply to Grundoon:

    Name at least one “recognized treatise .”

  • In reply to jnorto:

    I can name two -- refer to the two treaties constituting the majority of the peace of Westphalia of 1648 and go on from there.

    Got a problem with that jnorto?

  • In reply to Grundoon:

    Yes, I have a problem with your 400 year-old treaty as a statement of the current international law of war. In 1945 a newer and more universal treaty was signed, called the Charter of the United Nations. Article 51 of that charter limits the power members to go to war to "individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations." The United States has consistently acknowledged that Article 51 is binding on this nation. Only an armed attack will justify going to war, not sheltering a combatant.

  • In reply to jnorto:

    "Only an armed attack will justify going to war, not sheltering a combatant."
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    Should you bother to look at the law and its history, you would find that sheltering combatants makes you a combatant. The law of international conflict did not start in 1945.

  • Dennis, tell us what is "the right thing"? Continue this occupation of Afghanistan indefinitely?

  • In reply to Aquinas wired:

    You mean like continuing our "occupation" of Japan, of South Korean, of the NATO nations? To answer: I was/am for keeping a footprint in Afghanistan like we've been doing for a while--to continue our intelligence gathering, to continue a presence in a hostile region to guard our national interest. Yes we drove them out once, but was that forever? Clearly, the terrorists have returned. So, what do you think should be done about their return? Stay out, as you might say, we should have done originally?

  • In reply to Dennis Byrne:

    Thank you for candidly stating your opinion on Afghanistan, rather than sniping at the opinions of others. I disagree with it, but it is one shared by reasonable people, most particularly John Bolton and his circle of international affairs "hawks." But regardless of the merits of your argument, both Trump and Biden have now made the issue moot.

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  • Sadly I'm left with total disappointment in the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the top Pentagon Command, the Secretary of Defense ,the Secretary of State, & the Commander in Chief. I have only gratitude and praise for the military men and women on the ground in Kabul who were left to clean up this botched mess. They are the ones left holding the bag for the inept military commanders and this inept administration

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