New Orleans Saints at Chicago Bears Game Preview

New Orleans Saints at Chicago Bears Game Preview

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The Saints are 4-0 and seem to have recaptured their offensive magic with the return of the game’s best play-called, Sean Payton. They now come to Chicago in early October, in fine conditions, to see if they can finally beat the Bears at Soldier Field. So why do I like the Chicago Bears this week?

I always like the Chicago Bears.


  • Saints don’t run the ball with any effectiveness and teams will have a hard time beating the Bears in Chicago with a toss-it-every-down approach. There are just too many opportunities for the secondary to get their hands on the football.
  • Jay Cutler historically rebounds well from poor performances and the Saints secondary is not an elite group. This Bears team has the opportunity to be the most explosive in franchise history, with weapons all over the field, and I expect them to continue their ascension each week.
  • Matt Forte.
  • I love the way Marc Trestman responded to the Bears loss in Detroit. He is an intensely positive man but stands on the podium and addresses errors with a refreshing openness and honesty. Where Lovie Smith would have said “None of us played well” in response to Cutler criticism, Trestman talked about Cutler “let his fundamentals go”. It is one thing to respond well mentally to a loss but how will the Bears respond physically? I expect a spirited effort. The entirety of the Trestman quote is here:

“I see him do so many things in practice, moving his feet and doing the right things. But he’s got to hang onto the ball on the quick throw he had to the left backed up. He dropped the ball down. He put it in one hand. He’s got to have it in two hands, and he’s got to throw it away or move on. He was trying to make something happen late and he let his fundamentals go. These are things he’s done better this year, and we’re going to work at them. We’re in Game 4 and know we’ve got to get better. That’s what we’ll attempt to do this week.”

  • The Saints are 4-0, yes, but three of their first four games have been at home. Their one road game was a poor performance and a 16-14 victory over a Bucs team that can’t get out of their own way. That Sunday the Saints didn’t score a touchdown in the final three quarters. Saints are a team whose splits tend to tell two different tales. I expect that trend to continue.
  • If Izzy Idonije gave the Bears an advantage last week how does the presence of Aaron Kromer and Marc Trestman not give the Bears an advantage? Kromer was head coach of the Saints a year ago during the dark times and Trestman was a consultant for Sean Payton in years past. I don’t think they’ll be surprised by anything the Saints try to do Sunday.


  • Concern #1: Darren Sproles and Jimmy Graham are special talents and matchup nightmares for the entirety of the NFL. The Bears won’t be able to shut down either player but they must find ways to limit the damage. This means safeties Chris Conte and Major Wright must keep the game in front of them – something they struggled awfully to do a week ago in Detroit.
  • Concern #2: Adam Podlesh has taken the cash earned from his first half against the Cincinnati Bengals and spent it all on Fruit Stripe gum. (It starts delicious but the flavor is gone by the fourth chew.) Podlesh is now being rated by all accountable evaluators as the worst regular punter in the sport and that doesn’t bode well for a contest against a dynamic offense.
  • Concern #3: This is a very important ball game for the defensive confidence of the Chicago Bears. For the first time in recent memory the local media and fans are preparing to lessen their expectations on the unit. But one thing to note about the Bears defense: when people quit on them is when they tend to deliver their finest performances. Will that be the case Sunday?


  • Mel Tucker v. Sean Payton. On paper it’s a wild mismatch. Off paper it is too. Payton will undoubtedly attack the Bears defense in ways the Bears do not expect in an effort to grab an early lead and drain the enthusiasm from the Soldier Field faithful. How Tucker responds, in-game, will be pivotal. If the front four is not reaching Brees, Tucker must create pressure. If linebackers and safeties are losing jump balls to Graham, Tucker must deploy his tall corners. The Bears have been a better defense during the second halves of their first four games but against a team like the Saints the second half may be too late. Tucker must be ready to adjust well before the thirty-minute mark.


Jay Cutler, from Michael C. Wright’s piece on ESPN Chicago:

“You never really are in the present in the NFL. You’re either talking about what’s coming up or you’re talking about what just happened. You’re never really living in the moment and talking about the now, and ‘What can we do now to get better?’ That’s what our job is as players, and that’s the perspective we’ve got to keep. Obviously you’ve got to look at what’s ahead of you. But after that game is over, you’ve looked at it, it’s over with. The only thing right now that we can control is getting ready for the Saints. I think we learned a lot about our team already in the second half of that Detroit game; the way that offensively we kept fighting.”


  • Bears LB James Anderson has been one of their best defensive performers over the first month of the season but the Saints pose the league’s most difficult challenge to a coverage linebacker. Will Anderson ever be isolated on Graham or Sproles? I couldn’t tell you. But he’ll need to be active in space for the defense to have any success.



(Photo courtesy of Dan Patrick Show producer and friend of DaBearsBlog, Paul Pabst.)



  • Julius Peppers has been playing brilliantly the last two weeks and this week he sees the fruits of his labor with 2+ sacks.


  • We begin to see the Bears offense take steps towards the upper echelon of the league as Jay Cutler responds to his poor performance in Detroit with a pair of touchdown passes and clean turnover sheet. Brees still gets his but the Saints’ inability to run the ball/run the clock gives Trestman and Cutler too many opportunities.


  • Chicago Bears 30, New Orleans Saints 23


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  • nice post.
    nice prediction.
    brees dead.

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    In reply to Waffle:

    Yes it is good post for New Orleans Saints

  • hope so

  • Nature boy... does that mean you don't shavir yer booche

  • The Saints are good and not to be taken lightly. But if I'm handicapping this game, they've beaten the Falcons, Bucs and Cardinals who all blow. They gave the 3-0 Dolphins a beating Monday night. But what are the Dolphins? Don't know yet. The Saints are winning and holding opponents to low scoring games. But do you believe Rob Ryan was the missing ingredient? I don't. The Saints are good, but their stats are propped up by low caliber opponents and they're traveling on a short week. This game is winnable and I expect the Bears to do so.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    Didn't the Cards beat the Lions? They're a Jekyll and Hyde team if ever there was one. Never bet against the Cards. I got suckered into taking the Dolphins +7 against the Saints - the Saints are good, they're better than the Lions.

    And that's one of my favorite shots of Walter. We should have one every week. Miss you Wally.

  • That's an awesome picture of Walter.

    But hell, the man was photogenic. Just about any picture of him is awesome.


    Cutty is going to have a great game. Limit turnovers win the game. Get the ball out quick to limit sacks, fumbles and pressures. Throw quick vertical routes to TE and the slot.

    We win.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Brees dead.

  • Jeff -

    When you are trying to inspire me, or anybody else with testicles, you may want to drop an f bomb in a sentence or two.

    Throw me a fucking bone.

    Bearcse 27

    Saints 24

    Hester will break one off this weekend.

  • In reply to Viva:

    Beg to differ. F Bombs don't raise the bar, they lower it.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I feel bad that I made you beg.

  • So I had a little outing after work at Pinstripes bowling and bocce in Northbrook. We just finished up our 3rd game and we're getting ready to move out when guess who comes by to take our lane? That's right, Chicken Dinner and Woot Woot... And about 10 other players I didn't recognize. One of 'em was wearing Georgia gear so I imagine that was Cornelius Washington. I didn't want to be that weird superfan (even though I know I am) so I didn't hang out or stare at them like a creep. I just gave a long bearsssssss acknowledgement as they passed by. Interestingly enough, once we made it over to the bocce court, Brent Musburger was playing with his family drink in hand. He must be in town for the Ohio St. Northwestern game this weekend. I was going to ask him about his interview with Slim Shady, but he was enjoying himself so I let him rock the bocce balls with his family in peace. Solid evening though.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I would have been more impressed if you referred us to a Trib headline that started: "Alcohol Related...Boot Up Chicken Dinner's Ass "

  • In reply to Viva:

    Followed by, "Shady Bears fan jumped by defensive lineman after motivational tactic backfires."

  • In reply to Shady:


  • In reply to Shady:

    I'm pissing myself thinking about it...

  • In reply to Shady:

    Nice, Shady. Very cool.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Did Shae order Chicken Nuggets?

  • In reply to gpldan:

  • In reply to Shady:

    I still think of GP's Mac story on the train. I'd have no problem bothering him, I'd sit down right beside him - I'd get whatever guy was there to move. I'd sit down whether he liked it or not and just tell him all the reasons he was great.

    Then I'd float all the way home ... "Jim McMahon told me to fuck off."

    (swoon - pep le peu style)

  • You would offer Jimmy back a beej. Do not deny this.

  • A girl can dream.

    I think I just creamed my panties!

  • I think the call on Wright/Conte is spot-on, but I think the front 4 have more pressure than Anderson this week.

    Payton is coaching with a chip on his shoulder this year, but Brees can't do everything, and he's all they have. Their not on a sustainable track, and yeah, they fall this week.

  • EJ Manuel just tried to be a tough guy and got his knee blown out by a DB. Just go out of bounds dude, you had the first down.

    I like EJ but that was unneccessary.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Hoyer looks like he's out long term too. Bad night for QBs. Fingers crossed for Sunday.

  • Pick up a copy of Nate Jackson's "Slow Getting Up: A Story of NFL Survival from the Bottom of the Pile"

    It's a great read, and puts the life of a player in a different context than we're used to hearing about. He began his NFL career when the 49ers signed him as an UFA after playing for a D III school, and worked his way up to staring tight end/special teams for the Broncos. He was cut by McDaniels (for whom he has zero respect) after Shanahan was fired, and was there for Jay and B-Marsh's rookie seasons.

    He also did a stint in NFL Europe at Denver's behest, and almost played in the UFL; his takes on both leagues is surreal.

    He also does a great rip job on the media vs. the NFL player overall, and he names names. After being cut by McDaniels, the Browns tried him out when Mangini was coach there, and he really decapitates "Mangina" with a vengeance. His revelations on Mangini's coaching style is nauseating.

    It reads like a journal overall, which he kept all through college and his pro days. Definitely worth your time.

  • What was his take on Cutty?

  • In reply to Viva:

    HIs first observation was on the effect it had on Jake Plummer when the Broncos drafted Jay - Plummer felt the earth move under his feet. He talked about how Jay's passes were the opposite of Plummers (Jay's come in nose down and fast, Plummers came in in nose up, both of which take different approaches to catching them), and what it was like to drop a pass Cutler threw him for a 1st down (Cutler not happy).

    Mostly, he talked about how the fans/media did their usual clamor for Cutler when the Broncos weren't winning, and the effect that had on the locker room and Plummer specifically.

  • Only two novel-sized NFL books I ever read were "McMahon!" of course .... and NFL : Pros and cons. Used to eat up those big glossy coffee table books on NFL history.

    NFL Pros and cons is all about the criminals, rapists and wife beaters (is beating your wife a crime/ Really?) in the NFL. Lots of scumbags in the NFL. It's hard to believe Denny Green is not behind bars. Art Schlicter sounds like a complete moron. Warren Moon wrapped a phone cord around his wife's neck. Poor guy. I wonder what she did on him? It's a bad read though.

    "McMahon!" on the other hand ... can you imagine Cutty rolling up to Halas Hall for his first day at work with a beer can in his hand?

    He beat one player home on the opening run of his first training camp. Noah Jackson.

  • it's a different time Irish, you'd get fined 30,000 if you did a press conference with a beer in your hand....unless the beer was a direct sponsor of the NFL and you mentioned how tasty that brand of beer was while wearing an NFL approved hat surrounded by NFL Cheerleaders.

  • Nice Post, blogfader. But a special comeuppance goes to the one who sent that Walter pic in. Fucking Bitchin'.

  • And now for something completely different.

    Wish this was still on maings. Enjoy.

  • Ho-Ly-SHIT!!!

    Ok, I'm officially off sharks and onto these fucking monsters. Holy this look at that pic!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Some seen in Arlington Heights, Illinois, it said.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    dude, that's fucked up. That's like a fucking hummingbird. Arlington Heights is 40 minutes from my house.

    Also, you're on Huffington Post way too much.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    I just see something interesting and go there. I've never actually navigated to the main site.

    I'm agnostic to the source of my giant mutant japanese hornet news yonny.

  • Ho-leeeeeeeeeeeee fuck...those things are fuckin terrifying. They're the size of those little RC helicopters... wtf

  • In reply to RenoBear:

    reno bear. what's up maings

    Yes, not fun

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Do you self a favor follks and don't copy paste that link.

  • I don't understand how the bookies have this game as a push. Is it a home field thing? If this game ends in a draw - I will never bet again.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    home field for us, short week for them, cutty pissed he shit the bed last week, etc... etc...

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    More Bears fans than Saints fans influencing the betting pool?

    The stats say the Saints have this. 68% bias for teams greater than .750 coming off a short week against a team with a worse record. Very very strong statistical likelihood that the Saints win.

    They have the 6th best defense yardage-wise, the 5th best pass defense versus our 23rd pass D against one of the truly elite QBs in the league with the best tight end - and that does not sound gay NTTAWWT.

    They have 12 sacks and 7 INTS vs our 6 sacks and 6 INTS, but Brees isn't the kind of BQ that puts it up for grabs, hence the elite tag.

    Brees has a rating of 103 (Phil Rivers is #2 - shhhhhhh) 10 TDs and 4 picks.

    Cutty = 85 rating, 8 TDs and 6 picks.

    BTW - Peyton manning has 16 TDs and zero INTS with a rating of 136!!

    They are the #2 rated passing team. As were Detroit when they beat us.

    When do we start Jon Bostic again ?

    Push my ass. (that doesn't sound gay either NTTAWWT)

    Saints 41 Bears 24


  • Irish those stats are stupid. Stop looking at them. They have absolutely NOTHING to do with the game at hand. This particular game and its matchups have no semblance to the Saints or the Bears previous four matchups this year. The Saints stats look good because of the teams they've played. Each football team is such a different animal.
    Your stat says good teams win about 2/3 of their games over worse teams. That can't be your basis for betting your hard earned money. It just can't

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    Forgot to point out that those are ATS, and almost all such game are within +/- 5 % either side of 50 - so 68% is huge. And no, I don't use the historical stuff, it's a what-have-you-done-lately league. Just sayin'.

    But the yardage on the Saints defense and where our defense is, is very relevant indeed. They have a better Pass D than we do and it's Drew Brees we're up against not Eli Manning. The teams we've beaten aren't exactly world beaters either. PIT and CIN look not-so-good right now. I hope we win, but don't think we will. I don't bet against the Bears though. Bad ju-ju.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    I'll bet you do. HEYOOOOOO

  • It's a pretty rosy view you must admit., The presentation, and logic are sound, , but I'm, not putting any money on a victory., I'm, rooting and hoping you are right, , Forward into ,the fray!

  • In reply to BLOOMIE1937:

    Betting on the Bears this week would be homerism. Cutty lost me a very big win last week .. but I never bet 'em to lose, so :

    75% of the stack went on Denver -7 to beat the Cowgirls, and
    KC -2.5 to beat a team I like with a QB I like in Fitzy.

    25% of the stack went on New England +1.5 over the Bungles.
    SD -4 over the Raidaz.

    This fixture screwed me last year, but Rivers is the #2 QB in the league right now statistically.

    Where's your money Waffle, or did last week really hurt that bad?

  • i'm never gambling again. I am a victim each week of either terrible coaching decisions resulting in botched 4th and 1's or inexplicable missed tackles resulting in tragic defeats or missing the spread by a point.

    Fucking gambling.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Bookies are unbelievable at handicapping games - you have to hand it to them. I was looking at historical percentages for bets ATS on this and that, and last year's graph totally matched my own experience, it was all negatives. Last season it was impossible to make money no matter what you were doing or how you were going about it. Something stinks. Something happened there. Betting only a game a week using Denver might be the only way this year. And Champ Bailey and Von Miller have yet to return.

  • Paea and Collins dictate the whole game. Period.

    They play bad, don't collapse against Brees - we are screwed.

    We will be bringing the blitz from all angles, including heavy use of corner blitzing - this game.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    if we're putting all of our horses on the paea/collins wagon, i fear that we won't be able to ford the river.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    Nicely played.

    We shall Marshall the reserves.

    As General McCellin said in battle, you may cut the head off the chicken, but it will still run around.

  • Shady,

    Now that you've seen CD in street clothes, which was your reaction?

    A. "man, now that's a NFL football player"
    B. "i think I saw that guy on a re-run of Happy Days, as the bully who fights Potzie. Or maybe it was Back to the Future, not sure."

    How did he look standing next to Cornelius?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'll be honest, Shea is a pretty large dude. He may be undersized for a DE, but he's definitely a football player. Cornelius looked a bit smaller than I expected. Didn't really recognize the other guys out of uniform, but Shea definitely stood out like a sore thumb.

  • This is an auto-login site. I was just asked to log in. I typed in my email and password and it came up "This is not the correct username for IrishBearsFan". I haven't used that name in three years.

    The blog is dying.. HAL is dying.

    "Jeff? ..... What are you doing Jeff ... I know a song .. .would you like me to sing it for you Jeff ? .... Daiiii-sy ....Daiiiii-sy ..."

    Here's Jeff this halloween :


    For Trac and Canada : youtube deactivation of hal 9000

  • that is fucking creepy man. Always hated that movie.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Let me summarize it for you:

    God help apes
    Apes become man
    Man invent nukes
    God helps man
    Man invent artificial life
    Artificial life tries to destroy man
    Man destroys Artificial Life
    Man becomes God

  • In reply to gpldan:

    are the pod bay doors a metaphor for anything that we can use to contain brees on sunday?

  • In reply to evantonio:

    "Stop it Drew, you're hurting us.
    Drew.... stop. Stop Drew.
    We are beginning to lose... I can feel it. I can feel it."

  • In reply to evantonio:

    UHHH, We're going to vent the atmosphere and suffocate his ASS! The terrible embrace of the vacuum is a parallel to three of our linemen sitting on top of Brees at once.

    (Granted this is low vs. high pressure, but you get it!)

  • In reply to Scharfinator:

    you had me until "three of our linemen sitting on top of brees at once." now i know you're just talking out of your arse.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Really? I find that scene quite emotional and touching. HAL is more human than Dave, no?

  • yeah, but it's still creepy maings.

    that and you're a little bit of a strange guy as far as I can tell.

    semicolon...... close parenthesis.

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • Irish -

    The first computer to sing. 1961. The IBM 7094.

    Kubrick was no dummy.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That's cool. Like the Parc Xerox labs. they invented EVERYTHING, but sold nothing, pure research. Steve Jobs walks in one day, goes "insanely great!", walks out, hey ho Apple ! Always irks me when I hear/see anyone call Jobs and Gates geniuses. They stole everything, apparently the definition of a great artist.

    I think Kubrick put shit into his movies to let us know some of the stuff he'd seen at those parties in Nathan Rothschild's mansion (featured in EWS). He showed the first cut of Eyes Wide Shut to the execs at Warner Bros. and they shook their heads and said this, that and this would have to come out. He was dead three days later. Just sayin'.

    2001 : alien presence on the moon ? Hey Ho ! Stanley, whaddya say whaddya hear whaddaya know? Why did he pick Clarke's novel?

    The amount of detail he puts into scenes in the products, and photos and magazines that are lying around (The Shining) - I don't think any director went to those lengths. Kubrick movies need to be watched frame by frame. He knew the Elite, the real rulers, who liked to have talented people touching their coat-tails. My favourite director by far. There was nobody like him.

  • Dear GPL,

    The NFL season is off to another exciting and competitive start. I want to thank you and all NFL fans for your passionate support. We recognize and remind ourselves every day that we have to earn your loyalty. We take that responsibility very seriously.

    It includes a commitment to deliver the game that the fans love and the safety that players deserve. As a league, we have an unwavering commitment to player health and making our game safer at all levels. This is, and will remain, our top priority. We hope that our commitment to safety will set an example for all sports.

    Within the NFL, safety-related rules will always be clearly defined and strictly enforced, and we will continue to work with our players, coaches, and others to identify new and safer ways to play the game. We will build on our ongoing efforts to fund independent scientific research, develop better equipment, educate parents, players, and coaches on safe and fair play, advocate for safety in all sports, and enhance programs that support the health and well-being of NFL players and athletes at all levels.

    Increased safety for players has been an essential part of the evolution of football dating back to its early days more than 100 years ago. We are proud that the game is safer and more exciting today than ever, but we are never satisfied. In keeping with our history, we are committed to pursuing a path that ensures the rewards of playing football continue to far outweigh the risks. Led by our Competition Committee and medical advisors, every year we will look for new ways to make the game better and safer.

    There have been numerous safety-related rules changes going back decades: from the 1970s when we eliminated the head slap, to the 80s when we eliminated clubbing, to the 90s when we increased protection for defenseless players, to the 2000s when the horse collar tackle was made illegal. When we identify dangerous techniques, we adopt rules to eliminate them.

    We will continue to find ways to protect players so they can enjoy longer careers on the field and healthier lives off the field.

    In recent years we have focused on protecting defenseless players from hits to the head and neck area. A new rule for 2013 prohibits any player – on offense, defense, or special teams – from hitting an opponent with the crown of the helmet outside of the tackle box. The helmet is for protection. It is not a weapon. The goal is to take the head out of the game.

    Recently, Hall of Fame coach John Madden, who co-chairs our Player Safety Advisory Committee, told me that players and coaches have truly adjusted to the new, safer rules. Coach Madden said the players are back to the fundamentals of blocking and tackling, using the shoulder rather than the head. As a result, the game is safer.

    One of the most important aspects of safety is providing players with the best possible medical care. We work closely with the NFL Players Association to ensure our players have access to the finest doctors and most cutting edge technology. In fact, a large part of our current Collective Bargaining Agreement with the players is devoted to health and safety protections.

    Here are a few recent changes we’ve made:

    • We added non-affiliated neurotrauma consultants to the sidelines to assist our team medical staffs.
    • Each team also has a separate independent physician to assist players and team doctors on return–to–practice decisions after being removed from a game because of a concussion.
    • Team medical staffs are using the latest technology – sideline video, smart phones, and tablets – in their care of players.
    Our commitment goes beyond the NFL. We know that our actions influence college, high school, and youth football. It is part of a shared responsibility to protect the future of our game. We are especially proud of our partnership with USA Football this year to successfully launch “Heads Up Football,” a program designed to ensure that coaches are trained and certified in proper tackling techniques as well as concussion and hydration education.

    More than 2,800 youth leagues that include 90,000 coaches and more than 600,000 kids have registered for “Heads Up Football” training in its first year. We have made a multi-year commitment to teach a better, safer way to play youth football and look forward to all youth leagues joining the movement. Go to to learn more and see if your league is signed up. If not, urge your coach to sign up for 2014.

    We’ve also made measurable progress in protecting young athletes from head injuries in all sports. We have supported youth concussion laws that have now been adopted in 49 states. Four years ago, these laws did not exist. Now, almost every child that plays contact sports is protected by a set of procedures governing when they can return to play following an injury. We also have partnered with the national PTA to promote sports safety in schools across the nation.

    Another important element of our commitment to health and safety is the funding of groundbreaking research. We have pledged more than $100 million to medical research over the next decade, including $30 million to the National Institutes of Health for independent research to advance the understanding of concussions.

    We have also embarked on a $60 million partnership with GE and Under Armour to accelerate the development of advanced diagnostic tools and protective materials for head injuries. The NFL–GE-Under Armour “Head Health Initiative,” which has already attracted more than 400 proposals from 25 different countries, will reward the best new ideas from around the world in protecting against head injuries. This project and our broader research funding will yield benefits to all sports and beyond.

    Football will remain the hard-hitting, physical sport that you love. And we will continue to be vigilant in seeking ways to make the game even better and safer. The future of football is brighter, bigger, better, and more exciting than ever. For more information on our health and safety work, go to If you would like to receive regular updates on the NFL’s health and safety work, please click here.


  • In reply to gpldan:

    Ah, mail-merge, one of the greatest inventions in word-processing.

    Put the NFL's money where your mouth is Rodger Dodger. You are no different to the shills for tobacco companies of days gone by.

  • Exactly. Doesn't this whole thing feel exactly like "The Insider", when Garry Sandy tells Russell Crowe to STFU?

  • any of you chicago folk, or folk who've been to chicago, had a burger at kuma's? seems they're courting a little controversy these days.

    being one of the tribe, i've never had a communion wafer. do they have any taste?

  • In reply to evantonio:

    Never been to Kuma's. Maybe issue a Fatwa on them?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    the burgers are actually awesome. it's just a test of whether you're able to enjoy a meal while your auditory senses are being bombarded with german thrash metal.

    and all my fatwas are being pointed at drew this weekend.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    As an ex-Catholic I'm not actually sure what the Catholic Fatwa would be. Maybe going for your confession and then Father Brady invites you to play 'Hide the sausage' ?

  • In reply to evantonio:

    the cornerstone of any nutritious breakfast!

    I hear they have some tasty burgers... you mind if I try yours?

  • In reply to evantonio:

    The twins just came over when I had that burger photo up, "Eww!" said one, "EW!! Oh my God!" said the other.

    Ed Zachary, kids. Ed Zachary.

    Communion wafers taste like paper, so I wouldn't be dropping that into my ads. Again, the most abhorrent industry on the planet after the arms manufacturers. One industry kills us, the other insults our intelligence. I hate ad execs. HATE. THEM.

    At least arms companies are honest.
    "Yes, our product will kill you ... real good, and here's how ..."

    But you see the ad for Burger King and it's a couple of skinny ass bitches biting into their whoppers. As if. Or a group of guys drinking responsibly, instead of being all incoherent and looking for a good rape victim or somebody to pound on.



  • i guess this is the wrong time to tell you i'm a marketing copywriter... awkwaaaaaard


  • In reply to evantonio:

    Evan, if I could do that job right now, I would. Teaching salaries are actually going down in this country(T-land), and there hasn't been any raises in the ten years I've been here. Hookers make a lot more than I do. It's the advertising industry that sucks, you're just making a wage and I'll bet it's a good one. Good for you. . It's all about the Benjamins.

  • my mom was a teacher. i had considered it coming out of school because i liked the idea of summers off (who doesn't?), but i went against it because of the whole being at work before 8am, and sitting at her desk at home grading papers and shit until well into the night.

    people who think teachers have an easy job either aren't paying attention, or they're paying too much attention to certain right-wing pundits and asshats who say they're the sort of public servants who are draining this nation's coffers. "pay not attention to the billion dollar company that's getting hundreds of millions in tax breaks. the teacher making 60k. THAT'S the real issue here."

  • The owner of the Heart Attack Grill is honest. He tells straight up tells people, "My food will kill you." Yet he continues to have no remorse profiting off these people because he "keeps it real". Yeah OK doctor.

  • In reply to Shady:

    oh fucking please.

    those poor duped people. Being tricked into eating that horrible food by those wily ad execs. Oh the humanity!!!

    People who are fat lazy turds, are usually... fat lazy turds. Stop blaming anyone else for your complete and total lack of self-control, self-worth, and self-image. Put down the fucking fritos, get your fat lazy ass up off the couch and get into a gym and eat right. It's really that simple. How many fucking fat lazy Ethiopians do you see?

    Ignorance of how and what to eat and being lazy shouldn't be used as an excuse as to why your a dump that's about to have a fucking coronary.

    (too much?)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    btw, that wasn't directed towards you shady. It was the royal, 'you people'

    I would never ever suggest that you sit on your couch for hrs on end eating corn-style chips chili and cheese right out of the grande size bag while blazed out of your mind playing FPS games with your innerness friends. Never.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i'm still waiting for taco bell to release their Frito Loco taco. that's the sort of initiative I can get behind

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    My point wasn't about protecting those who can't make good decisions for themselves, you cold hearted motherfucker, it was about this doojbag owner who openly acknowledged how he's killing his patrons yet has no problem and feels no remorse for contributing to the problem.

  • In reply to Shady:

    cold hearted?!?!?

    Awww man... I have feelings too you know. that hurts. *sniff*

    Seriously maings... it's like anything else that has up front warnings. If no one is duping you into doing it thinking there is no danger, I don't get how you can blame the owner? He openly tells people that eating that shit will kill them. He's fulfilled his responsibility at that point, and ALL of the liability lies with the eatee, not the server of the eat...s.

    You dig?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I suppose because tobacco and alcohol companies put disclaimers on their products that they aren't responsible for marketing to and preying on the vulnerable public as well? Just because this clown admits it up front doesn't make him any less of a problem.

  • In reply to Shady:


    Before there was widespread knowledge that cigarettes killed people that argument makes sense.

    Now that it's VERY common knowledge smoking WILL kill you, the ONLY responsibility lies with the people buying and smoking them. Of course if you get cancer from second hand smoke I 100% think you should be able to sue the person who say smoked in your house for X years.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Different argument.

    What Jeffery Wigand uncovered was that they were using isotopes of PCP and using tar in special ways to lock the brain in on the ciggy.

    Unless the guy is putting compounds in his burgers that are known pathways to addiction, it's really not the same.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I guess we shouldn't prosecute drug dealers either, as people who buy their products are aware of the harm they inflict on the user. I'm all for personal responsibility, but you can't ignore the other malevolent factors involved.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I don't see ANYTHING on alcohol products that warn people as to its dangers. For example, clinically, Alcohol is classed as a poison. A poison! Where's the skull and crossbones? Does it say anywhere on the bottle or packaging that it destroys brain cells - the only cells in your body that can't reproduce? There's nothing at all. Too many tax dollars that could be messed with. That pot is illegal and alcohol is legal is a joke, a non-sensical joke, and one of the many reasons that governemnts should be ashamed of themselves. the government WANT people drinking themselves stupid so that they don't ever figure out that they're being fucked over every single day of their lives. Pot and LSD, the things that can open your eyes to the global mind-fuck being perpetrate on people? That's bad.

    Not that anyone needs to be doing LSD or pot everyday. Go check out Syd Barrett.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's the government and big business who have a part to play inthe nation of fatties too though. Processed shitty food is subsidized by the U.S. government, healthy organic stuff costs a lot more. Poor families can't afford to eat right.

    Chris rock was right, you don't see Ethipians with lactose intolerance. Although admittedly he's not a bio-geneticist.

  • yeah, I get it Irish... there are only licors stores in the hood, not produce stands... but I was being selfish and talking about fatties who can afford $9 burgers.

    I've done my own very scientific field studies over many years strictly using the scientific method and I've devised that the vast majority or fat people are fat because of one simple thing.... being thin/in shape takes a shitload of work... almost every day.

    Are some blessed with much better genetics and very high metabolisms? Indeed... but not everyone has to look like Shady, just not being fat and in danger of imminent death is all we're really talking about here. (shady is my personal guru)

    That said, I vigorously workout for 1.5 hrs almost every day, eat like a super model in training and I still have the arteries of a 65 year old chicago sausage maker. I'm genetically fucked and have been on crestor since I was like 27. I'll probably die of a heart attack in the next 5-10 years no matter what I do... but a guy like biggsy will live till he's 85. Such is life.

    Oh, and I watched This is the End last night... we'll probably all die in the impending Apocalypse anyway, so fuck it... eat up bitches!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    1.5 hours a day?? Yo have a home gym or what?

  • There is no reply button on the above posts - so well put Shady.

    It is certainly NOT common knowledge that cigarettes are loading devices for nicotine - most people wouldn't know what the fuck a loading-device is. Cigarettes are the most expensively-engineered addictive products on the market, and nicotine is much more addictive than heroin. Pure heroin taken correctly, is not dangerous. One is illegal the other is not. One is harmful to your body the other is not. Why? Tax dollars. The government would LOVE to make heroin, cocaine and pot legal because of all of that lost revenue - they just couldn't possibly sell the idea to the public though. Try getting voted in on that manifesto.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    Kuma's was awesome 4 years ago when they had handpacked half pound burgers made by up and coming culinary institute guys.

    Now they are prepackaged bricks of meat madness that are habitually overcooked to the point of being similar to my mom's from the late 80's.

    They stopped serving Chimay which was a super gay move on their part and the prices skyrocketed from the popularity and because they need to subsidize the losses incurred by the new location.

    I'll never turn down a free lunch there mind you but now I get the breaded chicken breast instead of the burger. I just double up on the double jack/cokes to fill the void.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    i only ate there once, about 4 years ago, with a buddy of mine who was a chef there. so i guess the combination of being in your timeline wheelhouse of awesome, and eating with the chef, it was a very favorable experience.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    You were there during the golden age.

    Full disclosure: I fucking love that place, I just know not to get the burgers or only get them if it's not super crowded. They have Cheese Fries with pulled pork and hot peppers. It's fucking magical and they can't fuck it up.

    They also have a burger called the Slayer. It's more like a jacked up version of a Horseshoe. It is chili cheese fries with a 10oz burger on top covered in cherry peppers and Andouille sausage, green onion and "anger".

  • In reply to Waffle:

    ha. i'll order anything if it's covered in anger.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    When I am there, you and I are going to talk about our warrior diets.

    I am worried.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    lol, worried?

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Just fucking with you my maingses.

    I'll stop, I know you're a little sensitive about it (which is why I keep doing it)

    Just like I am about that one time in college... one time doesn't mean your gay right? (NTTAWWT)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    oh, you mean my vices. lol, I'm good. I'm well on my way back to my fitness levels of my glory days. Apparently when you don't drink rum and cokes all weekend long your body responds positively.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    can't wait to see it.

  • Here's the original version of Zep's "Babe I'm Gonna Leave you"


    The Bears punt formation looks unlike any other? No shit. The ball only goes 28 yards.

  • “If you think about, it takes five yards to get the punt off,” DeCamillis said. “And for him it takes two-and-a-half yards to get the ball off.”

    which leads us to this quote that was left out of the article:

    "If you think about it, most punters get the ball about 40-50 yards down the field," evantonio said. "And for him, he gets it about 30. with the wind at his back."

  • In reply to evantonio:

    why is that dude still on our team right now?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i heard a rumor that he's got trestman's daughter locked up in his basement.

  • In reply to evantonio:


    I'd like to have her over for a few drinks and then get naked with her.

    (oh, was that out loud?!? It puts the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again!)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ditto Anthony Walters. That single play was a major factor in losing to the lions.

  • that was the steelers game maing.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    it was such a bone-headed mistake that the team didn't fully feel its effect until a week later.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Er .. yeah ....


  • the comment thread made it look like you wanted to get a few drinks into Anthony Walters and get naked with him. (NTTAWWT)

    You love that sweet chocolate so much that you don't care what form it comes in!!

  • Reposted from previous thread for those who didn't catch it.

    OK, who's coming to Chicago in Dec.? We can get Trac and gp out to dinner with us to liven up the conversation. Then we can go back to MB's room and sit around naked and decide if 4-evers package is more than ample or not. Head back out to the city for Waffle to carry on where he left off last year. Any other suggestions to liven up the evening? Oh, maybe Shady can run Canada off the road. The DBB boys enjoying some us time. Who's in?

    Irish possibly may drop in via UFO, courtesy of the friendly aliens!

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    All we are missing is Zach Galafanakis and Mike Tyson.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I already invited them.

    And don't think you're going to get out of hanging this time.

    I don't give a shit if you've contracted aids, the Bubonic plague, AND been stung multiple times by huge fucking mutant japanese death hornets with 1/2 inch stingers (

    And Murph, the nakedness will involve either a japanese girl dressed up as a giant japanese death hornet and/or a german girl dressed in partial Lederhosen.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Those hornets are terrifying.

  • In reply to gpldan:

  • In reply to gpldan:


    The Killllllleeeeerr Beeeeeeeeezzzzzz!

    Btw, a budy of mine and me are going to Halloween as Crocket and Tubbs.


  • In reply to MB30SD:


    Especially with the jacket sleeves rolled up.

    Women get to dress up as sexy cats n shit. Guys always dress up as something that sounded cool when they were high and end up looking like schnorks.. The last fancy dress party I went to was about twenty years ago - my cousins. I hate themed parties, so as an anti-theme I wore a dress over a pair of jeans. I ended up sitting in the back garden smoking weed with the dude who came dressed as a bishop. We sat outside in the cold staring in the window at all the hot cheerleaders, passing spliff backwards and forwards all night and hating ourselves.

    Fancy dress sucks unless you're about 6'8 with a cool Chewbacca costume.

    Ditka has Chewie's eyes - ever notice that? Ever seen Ditka and Chewbacca in the same place at the same time ? You haven't, right?

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    It would be a blast. Very temping but no way I can make it in December. I will be in Chicago at the end of March, early April though.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    oh come on! You HAVE to make it. We all want to meet them man behind the book.

    (see how I did that Boet?)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ja boet.

    I focking height prawns men.

  • Hahahahahaha... exactly.

    I'm still waiting for the sequel men. Howzit mychina? Is it?

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Post of the week - from out of the shadows he comes... then BOOM!

  • Like RAPEMAN!

    The Japanese are weird menschs.

  • Oh great, now they are in Arlington Heights

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Jesus Christ, now I can't enjoy the game. It will be like BEARS SCORE, and then i jump up but hear a buzz and then "JESUS CHRIST, IS THAT AN ASIAN WASP? IS IT?" and it will be some static or something.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    you're welcome.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I see them all the time obviously - they don't appear too aggressive over here. I've never been stung in ten years. Still shake my head at whitey who drives his bike around without a visored helmet on thinking it's a regular old sunny day back in blighty. If you're going 80 kph and the wasp is going 80 kph and hits you in the face - well, Doc Nitty can do the math, but I reckon that's about 160 kph of wasp hitting your face, sting forward -cos that's how they roll. Back when I had a house with a pool, 2 pools actually, there were poisonous snakes living in both of them. I counted 5 or 6 living in the smaller pool one time. Wasps I can live with, snakes are not cool. A snake gets in your house and it's going to hang out in clothes or underneath something, surprise those fuckers and you've got about 20 minutes to live. Complete paralysis.

    Wasps I can live with, snakes are not cool.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I went to Arlington HS for 2 years before it closed down...

  • In reply to Viva:

    because of giant mutant japanese death hornets!?!

  • I've watched Cutler during his recent press conference. Trestman has him thinking straight man. He knows that the Bears season hinges on him protecting the ball and taking CALCULATED risks based on what the game calls for.

    He will have a solid game and we will fucking win. Forte will be used a ton in the check down game and you'll see several WR's with 7+ catches each and Marshall with 10+ for about 100.

    I'm calling only 250yds and maybe 1 or 2 TD's but definitely 0 INT's.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    fuck man, I hope so. I really want this win for us after last week. Fucking lions. Hate those cunts so much.

    I would much rather have blasted the lions and lost to the saints. Oh well, I just don't want another loss.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I have full confidence that we will win. To make sure of it I simply bet on the Saints to win. That means the opposite will happen and the Bears will be victorious.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    I see what you did there. But was it $5 or $500? Ahhhh.

  • I bet 1.00 because I think it's the basic principal that a bet was placed and not an actual dollar amount.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Sorry, not enough. As an old commodities trader I once knew used to say "If I can sleep at night, I know my position is too small"...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I hate the Lions too, but at this point of the season, I'll take a win over the Saints. If so, we can chalk the loss to the Lions up as an anomaly. If they lose to the Saints, well then its last year all over again. Beat the shitty teams and lose to the good ones. Fuck that.

  • Why are the women on the Spanish stations 10X hotter than their American counter parts?

    Funny little footnote on that. Back when I used to comment on the ESPN board (oh save me!), an account which I'm pretty sure belonged to Seifert, posted that he would put leave on the Spanish channel overnight so that when his wife woke up, she would wake up to half clad smoking hot latinas on tv.

    It was a little game to piss her off a bit, but the jig was up. His wife knew his little scheme, and would say, "Nice try."

  • I imagine Salma Hayek's punani tastes like a fruit salad, as I tongue the bean framed in a hamster's ear, her short, staccato breaths, rising in tempo as my tongue probes deeper into the wound .....

    Go Bears!


    they're hotter because there's no word for 'sexism' in spanish. It's just considered part of the culture.

    And don't fucking complain, I've seen the 'war of the hot weather girls' all of the LA news stations are waging... you poor man. asshole.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Sexismo? Que?

    Sexismo in Latin America is stomach ache drink one takes after sex. Not that many folks in America know that Peptobismo product.

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    I was dejected by that loss to the Detroit. Jay played terrible and the defense was putrid. I don't think I'm cut out for the no defense, shoot outs. What we need here is a 21-3 win at home. Don't think it will happen that way.

    Has anyone seen Conte's shoes? OMG... It's like he single handedly was trying to make MB seem like a prophet.

    5-10 terrible plays by Cutler. Can't have it.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    (Irish sidles slowly into the frame and stands beside Mike, his eyes searching from side to side ... his Jimmy Mac t-shirt straining over his taut, muscular body .. .he pauses for a minute, then wordlessly shifts his way back out of frame}

  • This shit cracks me up.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Same here Shady. Irish has me laughing almost every day.

    Irish . . . . You've got a knack for this shit.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    That's why I'm teaching English and computer programming for a thousand bucks a month. But thanks.


  • In reply to Big Mike:

    you're welcome my son.

    You guys let me know when you want me to unleash my Apocalypse visions.

    Oh, and just remember who got fired on who's almost successive birthdays.... Dave... Member? Hmmmm?

    ...mmmkay then.

  • wow. I could see these things roaming the streets enforcing curfews and chasing mailmen.

  • people laugh but we're closer to "The Terminator" and "The Matrix" than not.

    We're too fucking smart for our own good. Luckily when they do take over we can simply watch Terminator and The Matrix and we'll know how to survive.

    Thanks Keanu!!!

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Here are the highly entertaining 12 episodes that show what led up to the events in the Matrix movies. Shows how a normal human culture abused and relied too much on machines until it all went to shit.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    He knows Kung-Fu !

    Now that's a movie that they should not have made sequels to. The events leading up-to ... okay. The events after ... just plain sucked.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Dont forget Johnny Mnemonic!

  • Drones. We're about 5 years away from drones doing that. I mean ... you are .. .in America ... the land of the free. They'll identify you a thousand yards out from the fucking barcodes on your foreheads.

    I'm half-joking.

    Might be two thousand yards.

  • Dude, I WISH we could download shit into our brains like in the matrix. I would sit at home and do that shit all day long...

    load... jeet kun do
    load.... how to fly a helicopter
    load... how to race a formula 1 car
    load... the maths... all of it (that one was for you doc)
    load... the karma sutra
    load... the history od strategy and tactics of war
    load... how to fix every car out there
    load... how to build a hand made foot-pedal powered lathe (

    you get the picture.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    load ... .Salma Hayek is my girlfriend ... like twenty years ago.
    load ... Tiger Woods house and bank account.


  • doh!

    My god the browns are so fucking CURSED. Brutal.

  • case... in... point....


  • which one of you motherfuckers wants to go to this thing with me?

    I'm looking at you yonny

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    that's badass.

  • here you go irish:

    The Millennium Falcon bitches!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    See the vid on hand dryers after that? They blow bacteria onto your hands. Ew.

  • Butch's Bears-Saint's preview

    How can anyone squeeze the Labyrinth, Breaking Bad AND The Reign of Terror into a Bears-Saints sneak-preview? Clickee here to find out! (it's actually quite comprehensive).

  • Great piece...

  • good write up. I'm more escared after reading it.

    I'm also a little disappointed that you didn't somehow work in giant killer mutant japanese death hornets

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Be escared, be very escared.

    Our D is even worse than under Babich I think.

    I knew Marinelli and Toub would hurt, but I never imagined this much.

    I expected a shoot out in Detroit, and that's what we got. The Bears game was pretty high scoring too (zing!)

    If it's a playoff atmosphere, the score my tighten up, but there's no real way to predict that until game day.


    Raised a point I'd been thinking about and meant to ask.

    Who did you like in the series and what does that say about you?

    Are we supposed to side with Skyler and Jesse? I liked neither. Skyler was never grateful for her man making gazillions of dollars. She fucked Ted. She never supported her man. She fucked Ted!

    Jesse? Why does he get off scot free? Jesse was the career cook. Walt was faced with death and no security for his family. I would have done what he did maybe, had I got his skills. I'm faced with similar issues now. Jesse chose his path in life - although his parents turned their back on him. Walt originally chose to be a teacher. Like most women, Skyler bought the big ticket and is content to sit there and bitch, and nothing is ever good enough - same as her sister, the high-moral ground klepto. Hank is an over-achieving macho cartoon.

    Walt watched Jane, Jesse's girlfriend choke to death. I would probably have dosed he bitch up for blackmailing me in the first place. Walt cried over it. But Jesse was plugging people a lot. He plugged a chemist in the face on his own doorstep etc. Then he goes and cries over some kid getting shot - an awesome moment in the series - gets up on his high horse, after being a multiple-murderer himself?

    After all that JEsse tried to do against Walt, Walt risks his life trying to save Jesse. What does Jesse do with his new found freedom? He calls the cops on Walt in the last episode! The guy who has just saved his life - what a prick!

    I liked Saul - a realist, fucked over by various wives, Mike - a pragmatist, wanting to provide a future for his grand-daughter and Walt - faithful, loyal Walt who wants to provide for his family after he's gone. I guess I'm breaking bad.

    But who did you guys like ?

  • Nice piece Butch - but you lay out a lengthy argument - which to me, spells Saints win ... but then you plump for a Bears victory based purely on optimism ? Would you ever predict a Bears' loss? Because we won't face many stronger teams this year, and we are not strong. Anywhere.

    it's not gay to say that the Bears look like they have a tough job winning one this week. The facts and quantifiable data dictate it.

    Doesn't anyone else on here expect a loss this week?

  • OBWAT is on right now. Damn this movie is bad ass. Soundtrack is insane too.

    Beautiful movie.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    OBWAT ?


  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • he's one of yours. kinda funny

    Strange, that's exactly how Rabbit ate his portillos.

  • Yo Artoo - no midway blog after the Lions game this week? The Tuesday show?

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