Two in a row -- Cubs 8, Cardinals 6

The Chicago Cubs clinched something on Saturday night, and that was the series win versus the St. Louis Cardinals. The Cubs hit four home runs in the 8-6 victory.

Kyle Schwarber gave the Cubs an early 1-0 lead with a two-out solo home run off of Cardinals starter Adam Wainwright. Ian Happ followed with a single, but Jonathan Lucroy struck out for out three.

Cubs starter Cole Hamels got a groundout from leadoff man Dexter Fowler, followed by a strikeout to Tommy Edman, a single from Paul Goldschmidt, and a strikeout from Marcell Ozuna.

Things got a little heated, but not really, in the second when Yadier Molina was grazed by a pitch. Molina had some words for Hamels and Hamels chipped back, resulting in the benches clearing. Nothing else happened, though. 

Nico Hoerner led off the third with a single and was brought home on a one-out homer from Happ to put the Cubs ahead 3-0.

The Cubs added some insurance in the fifth, with Happ hitting his second home run of the night after a leadoff single from Schwarber. Lucroy lined out to left for the first out, but Victor Caratini then hit a monster home run to right to bring the score to 6-0. After a single from Addison Russell, Dominic Leone entered the game in relief of Wainwright. He got David Bote to line out to right field and pinch hitting David Descalso to strike out to end the inning.

Kyle Ryan took over pitching for the Cubs in the bottom of the fifth. Hamels went four innings with two hits, no runs, no walks, and eight strikeouts. Ryan got a strikeout from Paul DeJong but then gave up a home run to Harrison Bader to put the Cardinals on the board at 6-1. He then walked pinch hitter Tyler O’Neill and Fowler and was pulled in favor of David Phelps. Edman hit a triple off of Phelps to score O’Neill and Fowler, and the inning would end with the score at 6-3.

The Cardinals sent Tyler Webb to the mound in the sixth and he worked a 1-2-3 inning, with a pop out to the catcher from Tony Kemp, a lineout to center from Hoerner, and a strikeout from Schwarber.

Brad Wieck replaced Phelps for the bottom of the seventh and hit Bader with a pitch, who advanced to second on a wild pitch with pinch hitter Rangel Ravelo at the plate. Ravelo walked, and with the tying run now at the plate, Wieck walked Fowler to load the bases and was pulled from the mound. Steve Cishek took over and gave up a single to Edman. Goldschmidt then grounded into a double play, scoring Ravelo and bringing the Cardinals within one run at 6-5. Ozuna recorded another walk, and Molina flew out to center to finally end the inning.

Russell led off the eighth with a single off of new Cardinals pitcher John Brebbia and Bote then walked. Pinch hitter Albert Almora Jr bunt popped back to Brebbia, and Brebbia was then pulled and replaced by Andrew Miller. Miller gave up a single to Kemp, scoring Russell. The Cubs added more insurance from a single by Hoerner and were now leading 8-5.

Cardinals hitters faced new Cubs pitcher Pedro Strop for the bottom of the eighth. Defensive moves included Kemp moving from right to left field, Happ moving from center to right, and Almora remaining in the game at center. Strop got Carpenter to strike out for the fourth time in the game, but DeJong followed with a solo home run to put the Cards behind by two at 8-6. Bader walked and advanced to second on an error, but Strop was able to limit the damage with strikeouts from pinch hitter José Martínez and Fowler.

Carlos Martínez pitched the top of the ninth for the Cardinals and faced Happ at leadoff.  Happ grounded out and Lucroy lined out for two quick outs. Caratini and Russell followed with singles, but Bote was called out on strikes to end the inning.

The bottom of the ninth began with Edman being hit by a pitch from new Cubs pitcher Brandon Kintzler. Luckily it wouldn’t matter, as Goldschmidt flew out to center, Ozuna grounded into a forceout with Edman out at second, and Molina flew out to center to end the game.



Source: FanGraphs


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  • Is Darvish going to pitch tomorrow? He could, it's his turn.
    Hendricks could go if contract situation > winning.

    Brewers lose... good job lickin' it up boys.
    Can't say we didn't give you a chance.

  • In reply to hoffpauir6:

    Derek Holland

  • In reply to WaitTilNextYear:

    You've got to be kidding.
    Better score 15 runs.

  • In reply to hoffpauir6:

    Already got two miracles... need #3.

  • In reply to hoffpauir6:

    They announced Friday that no Yu or Kyle this weekend.

  • In reply to WaitTilNextYear:

    Yeah, I get that they're not trying to win.
    But they're doing better than when they tried to win.

    So they'll try not to win one more time.

    Too bad the Brewers didn't take advantage.
    The Cardinal sphincter would be so tight that they couldn't poo if they ate a whole pack of Ex Lax.

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    Tonight, Cole Hamels and Tony Kemp, you're table is ready. Cole held them, and Kemp gave us some breathing room. Have a great meal.

  • In reply to Jonathan Friedman:

    wait ... no Happ?

  • In reply to stv711:

    Barry Bon... er Happ needs a seat fo sho.

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    In reply to hoffpauir6:

    Happ had a good game, no doubt, but for me Kemp came through when it counted. I like to not just pick the player or 2 who had the best game but was clutch too.

  • In reply to Jonathan Friedman:

    Fair enough. I'm sending Happ & Schwarber some of Grub Hubs finest. ;-)

  • In reply to Jonathan Friedman:

    I'd make Kemp sit at the kids table. No matter what else he did, standing at the tee, er plate, at his 6th inning popup, was totally unacceptable. Where is "Respect 90"?

  • Here's another two-some for you. Ol Bang-Bang gives up another HR and Daniel D strikes out yet again. Not sure where they should sit but not with the adults.

  • Hypothetical scenario here but if you could choose your 26 man roster for next season using only the guys on our current 40 man roster who would it be... obviously I know there will be acquisitions via trade or FA but was wondering who people thought are the most likely/valuable guys that we currently have to make up the new 26 man roster for next year. Mine would be:

    Starting lineup...

    1B Rizzo (gotta lead him off for now)
    RF Nick C (re-signed)
    3B KB
    LF Schwarbs
    C Contreras
    SS Javy
    CF Heyward
    2B Nico
    P Darvish

    Other 4 SP:
    - Hendricks
    - Lester
    - Quintana ( not loving this right now...)
    - Alec Mills (Not re-signing Hamels)

    - Kemp (contact hitter from Left side - good versatile defender - don’t want him starting a lot tho)
    - Bote
    - Caratini
    - Happ
    - Lucroy (Had to be him for now in this scenario but this spot would be used for good defensive catcher - would free up Caratini to pinch hit on days he’s not starting)


    - Kimbrel (please let him be good again!!!)
    - Wick
    - Wieck
    - Ryan (trying to use him mostly as lefty specialist if I can)
    - Underwood
    - Chatwood
    - Kintzler (ideally brought back on 1 year deal- he was great this year and I like having the ground ball guy to go to when you really need a DP)
    - Graveman (could be Alzolay too)

    Next are the guys I see the front office either not bringing back or trading away:

    - Almora (Overrated defensively as a result of his lack of speed... also I can’t handle watching him ground out to SS again)
    - Russell (for obvious reasons here but also his subpar throwing arm has made his defense at SS no longer special and he’s also nothing special at the plate)
    - Cishek (was good for awhile but time to go)
    - Strop ( liked him a lot for a while but he fell off a cliff)
    - Hamels (gonna want more money than we would offer - really struggled post injury)
    - Descalso (I know he’s still under contract so I guess you have to bring him to spring to compete for a spot but man his AB’s are brutal and his defense and range is average at best)
    - Zobrist (I absolutely would try to get him back on a 1 year deal so he can go out the right way if he was up for it... we missed him badly all year and proved in Sept. that he can still give you excellent AB’s - unfortunately I’m assuming here that he is retiring)

    Triple A depth:
    - Robel Garcia
    - Norwood
    - Maples
    - Alzolay

    Of course this won’t be the exact 26 man roster next year as there will be trades or FA acquisitions but it does feel like we aren’t to far away from fielding a championship contender if the front office can push the right buttons this off-season. Unfortunately it’s something they haven’t done the last couple off seasons which is why were missing the playoffs this year. Crossing my fingers!

  • In reply to CubsInFour:

    The starting lineup is obvious, and looks solid on paper but we know from experience that isn't the case. I'll take a 38 year old Zobrist over Happ every day. And Kemp, obviously.

    I think Zobrist will be one of the trickier decisions for the guys to make. He can still play and still hit when it counts most. He's made some statements to the effect that he feels confident he can still perform. If he tells Theo that he wants to play one more full season, how do they say no? Is it a qualifying offer or one year incentive contract? They can do a lot worse for a part time starter / platoon / mentor to Nico at 2B.

  • In reply to CubsInFour:

    I have said this team isn’t far off. They need to clean up bullpen, add a legit starter and a leadoff hitter.

  • In reply to CubsInFour:

    Q sucks. I’d trade him for a lottery pick and let Alzolay take his spot, use the cash elsewhere.

  • Happ has destroyed the cardinals this series,even his last ab hitting from the right side the ball was hit to the warning track

  • Watching the never ending highlights in the corner... Yadi is one of the toughest competitors of this generation, hands down, but what an a-hole. He gets nipped by an inside fastball and has to go out to the mound? And Schildt, they are all such cocky pricks aren't they? I hate this organization.

    For today: Schwarber two bombs to reach 40.

  • Ian Happ O-meter

    .268 / .333 / .906

    24.2 % K rate
    9.2 % BB rate
    7.2 % HR rate

    Does 153 PAs still count as SSS?

    Someone (actually, JohnCC ) replied yesterday that Happ was close to a 3 outcome hitter "He strikes out a lot, walks a lot, and hits lots of homeruns ... and rarely puts the ball in play"). Now math and stats were never my strong suit, but the above numbers don't jibe with "close", "a lot", and "rarely". So, help me out here.

  • In reply to DropThePuck:

    Actually a .333 OBP and .573 SLG does tell me that he hits a lot of homers and actually does not walk very much. I was wrong.

    I'm looking at his month of September and he's been flat out raking, granted it's 63 PA which does constitute a SSS in my opinion.
    .333/.349/.695 -- that is Javy Baez level (when he's hot) and I just do not believe that is sustainable from him. That is with a .342 babip, again, doesn't seem sustainable to me. He doesn't have the bat speed or quick hands or ability pure bat skills that Baez does.

    I'm happy to admit that I'm wrong. I don't root against Cubs players like other "fans" do around here. I just do not see an elite level hitter when watching Happ.

    And the other part of my post, the most important part, is that I believe the overall problem with the Cubs over the past 3 years is holding onto all of these young players because they have flashed high upside but never became consistent: Schwarber, Almora, Russell, Happ... you just can't have that many players developing at the major league level and be a championship team. It's not an easy problem to solve, hence the state of this season. Is next year the year that Schwarber is the player everyone has been waiting for? And Happ? Maybe... I don't know.

  • In reply to JohnCC:

    If they had adequate pitching (both starting and relief) they could carry these players as these same players were on the 2016 team minus Happ.

  • In reply to stix:

    Schwarber was not on the 2016 team either. The problems arose in 2017 when Russell regressed and Schwarbs started his first full season and Happ was brought up. Again, not trying to dump on any individual player, but the combination of all didn't work. Maybe next year it could?

    There was far too many men left on base this year to blame the bullpen for this 84 win season. It was team failure.

  • In reply to JohnCC:

    What. Schwarbs was definitely on the roster. He doesn’t come back from knee injury we don’t win. No Chapman or Kyle no WS.

  • In reply to WaitTilNextYear:

    No he wasn't.

  • In reply to 2016 Cubs:

    Hit .412 in WS.

  • In reply to WaitTilNextYear:

    He was not on the roster after the 1st week of the regular season. Did not get back on the roster till October.

  • In reply to JohnCC:

    Nice post, JohnCC. I enjoyed discussing Ian Happ with you.

    Obviously, the big question is whether his 7 game hitting streak is an anomalous hot streak or the result of FINALLY getting regular playing time this year and NOT batting leadoff.

    At least Ian is providing a spark of hope for next year.

  • From 2018 to 2019, the Cardinals went from the worst defensive team in baseball to the best defensive team in baseball. Their bullpen went from bottom half in baseball to the best in baseball. It's pretty easy to see why they are going to the playoffs. How did they make that big of a move in 1 year?

  • It is official. Joe Maddon is not coming back.

  • Theo and Joe have spent the last hour or so with the team in the St. Louis clubhouse. Set to hold a press conference any minute now.

  • As you know i have been on the fence about joe’s tenure. I don’t think he should be fired based on 18 and 19. Difference from 16 to today. In 16 we had legit lead off in Fowler. We had legit ace in Arietta. Had a legit closure in Chapman. And Addi Russell has personal issues. The first 3 are all issues this team has today.

  • Even though I knew it was inevitable Maddon wouldn’t be back, I feel he’s being scapegoated for Theo Epstein’s f ups.multiple Hitting & pitching coaches been replaced cubs still have the same issues ,now the manager is gone when will theo ever hold himself accountable for his terrible trades,fa signings and drafting? All he does is talk tough and give lip service in press conferences

  • I’m sad Joe won’t be back. I know it was an obvious move and I trust the front office to know what they’re doing, so I’m confident it’ll work out.
    Watching MLB network, it sounds like 3 or 4 teams are already ready to offer him a job. So I guess he’s not as bad of a manager as many Cubs fans feel

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    Who is the new Cubs Manager going to be ??? Some one from the dugout ? Some one from the front office ? or ! from outside the organization ? I vote for Joe Girardi .. sp ?

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  • In reply to Ronald Dietzler:

    Theo is set to meet with the remaining coaching staff on Tuesday. Bench coach Mark Loretta will likely be considered for the managerial position, as will David Ross, who is employed by the team in a roving capacity. I'd guess a handful of others from outside the organization will be interviewed. I'd expect a decision to be made relatively quickly to get the new staff in place.

    Anything's possible, but I find Girardi unlikely. My feeling is they'll follow the industry-wide trend of hiring a younger, less-experienced manager, with far more input on daily lineup construction and bullpen availability coming from the FO.

  • In reply to Ronald Dietzler:

    David Ross,derosa or mark Loretta are my guesses

  • Theo is a Wiesel. Look at the talent the cardinals bring up year after year. All Theo knows to do is trade and overspend for free agents. Has no idea how to develop young players.

  • In reply to TheSarge#36:

    Yep, the Cards are so good they have been looking up at the Cubs for the past few years, or should I say year after year.

  • In reply to clarkAddson:

    The cardinals have more wins this decade.

  • In reply to WaitTilNextYear:

    Yep, just as I said: the Cards are so good they have been looking up at the Cubs for the past few years, since Theo came to the Cubs,or should I say year after year, after year, after year.

  • Man, some of you guys... the vitriol, so angry.

    Do any of you think for a minute that Maddon didn't want a new contract with the Cubs? That he and Theo did have an actual adult, professional conversation and mutually decide it was best for everyone to move on?

    No one is being scapegoated and no one is trying to hide from being responsible for the season. Listen to Theo's comments, he's honest and sincere. Sometimes teams just lose.

  • In reply to JohnCC:

    Manager gets fired that is scapegoat. Joe would have come back.

  • In reply to JohnCC:

    It's difficult to read some of the absolute nonsense surrounding the issue. It's like people pick a stance and live or die by it, disregarding actual evidence or the opinions of others. My favorite is the one about Joe being "scapegoated," as if he had zero responsibility for player development or discipline on offense or defense. Many changes are needed, but new leadership comes first.

  • In reply to Cliff1969:

    Theo has to be fired as well.

  • In reply to WaitTilNextYear:

    I'm not convinced that Theo's the guy to fix this.
    But he's gonna be the guy.

  • In reply to WaitTilNextYear:

    Hold your breath. Happening any time now...not.

  • In reply to Cliff1969:

    You can’t blame one with out the other.

  • In reply to Cliff1969:

    Just like the 3 hitting coaches, 3 pitching coaches. At some point it has to be signing the wrong guys, trading badly, and not drafting well. He has to be on the hot seat.

  • In reply to WaitTilNextYear:

    I'm excited to see what Theo, and the front office does this offseason.

    Theo has two years left on his big money extension.

  • The players aren't listening to Joe anymore.
    He has lost the team, so now there must be a new voice.

    Joe didn't get fired. He just doesn't have a contract after today.

  • In reply to hoffpauir6:

    If cubs want a strong voice maybe that what lead to chili Davis issues. Maybe his relationship with players wasn’t buddy buddy but holding accountable and players didn’t like that ?????

  • In reply to WaitTilNextYear:

    Messages get stale.
    It's happens to most of 'em eventually.

    I think it had already happened in '18.
    '19 left no doubt. The Cubs were unmotivated underperformers.

  • In reply to WaitTilNextYear:

    I thought the whole Chili Davis deal was Theo wanted to keep him? Theo caved to his star hitters request including Rizzo, and Bryant, to avoid a mutiny from the players.

  • In reply to Naujack:

    Maybe. I didn’t realize that.

  • Everyone saw this coming. Joe Madden's guy Jim Hickey was let go after last season. I'm sure Joe would of prefered to keep him around, as pitching coach for a second season. The front office will get a less expensive manager. Front office will be much more involved in making day to day decisions. Maybe that is a good thing?

    The lack of player development is really starting to handcuff the Cub's potential. I hope amatuer scouting, and player development department is open to big changes across the board-from personal to strategy/philosophy,and everything in between. That department needs real change from an outsider/fan looking in.

  • it's not 2002 anymore theo inst some wonder boy who is ahead of the game.Time to hold "the genius" accountable for his screw ups.It's obviously joe maddons fault quintana had a 13.09 era in September,or that kimbrel has been awful or morrow has been out since july 2018 or strop is trash or hendricks sucks on the road or the cubs can't hit with risp, don't have a lead off hitter or bryant has got injured again and hit .226 since july 26th etc etc you get my drift

    I couldn't care less what the passive aggressive old people gotta say , theo needs to be held accountable.

  • In reply to bolla:

    I am in awe that some of us even acknowledge you and WaitTilNextYear's nonsense.

  • In reply to clarkAddson:

    Then ignore me, it's simple.Not sure what nonsense I'm posting either

    facts are clearly frowned upon

  • In reply to clarkAddson:

    You just did.
    Just because I don’t think the cubs are superior organization then cardinals doesn’t make it nonsense. Hope cubs can get it figured out.

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