Stop Facebook Page To Legalize Dog Fighting

Now this is downright sick. There's always a concern about giving publicity; it can be like throwing more fuel to the fire....but a Facebook Fan Page to Legalize Dog fighting is going too far.

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This is a real face of what dog fighting looks like. Of course, it's illegal. Of course, it's a felony.

Here's the exact page description: Legalize dog fighting. Pets are not people. They are your pet.
something you own. If i'm not mistaken when you own something you can
do what you want with it.

Dog fighting is a felony in every state. We know violence begets more violence - and that means wherever there's dog fighting law enforcement tells me there are always other crimes. Of course, the animal cruelty that goes on is barbaric. Maybe Cook County Sheriff Tom Dart, who's been proactive to get prostitution posts off Craig's List can help. He's also been proactive about combating dog fighting.

I'm calling for all of you to be proactive. It's easy - go to the link (please do not join the fan page - as some well meaning people have)....then at the bottom left hand corner where it says Report Page, please do that!  (and spread the word!- just pass this link on)

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  • Totally agree-be sure not to "like" the page in order to comment; you won't be changing anyone's minds and it will be an exercise in frustration. Let's just stop FB from giving these morons a forum for their interest in illegal activities.

  • In reply to cvertucci:

    yes! working to do what I can here....

  • In reply to cvertucci:

    I reported the page when I saw it 2 days ago and thought how insane it is that a page like this would ever exist. More insane is the number of people who "like" the page. I truly hope that it gets shut down.

  • In reply to angelalove1:

    I didn't write anything at first assuming FB would instantly take it down. I know they are aware of this - so by now, why hasn't that happened. It's inexcusable.

  • In reply to angelalove1:

    This is proof: Never underestimate the power of stupidity.

  • In reply to angelalove1:

    I reported it, too. I used the category "threat of violence." You do realize that whoever set up the page did it just to push everybody's buttons. They WANT to see if FB will shut it down. And since it is kind of "fakey" type of page with no contacts and no blatant FB violations...well... I hope FB does find a reason to shut it down, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did stay up.

  • In reply to harpercollie:

    Please...this should be fun, because I like seeing how idiots think. Where exactly is the threat of violence. Don't bother taxing your worthless little brain trying to find any because there is none. NOWHERE do they call for violent measures to get their message across, which is the legalization of something that is currently illegal. Again, worthless hypocrite...are you also reporting any and every site calling for the legalization or marijuana or gay marriage? If not then you are truly more worthless than even I suspected.

  • In reply to Lakawak:

    Legalizing pot or gay marriage is Not harming someone. Dog fighting is not only illegal, but any animal abuse is punishable by law. So pretty much this site says, please help us legalize animal abuse. People smoking pot & gay people being married causes NO HARM to anyone. Anyone who is worthless enough to waste thier time trying to legalize a 'sport' in which dogs are raised to kill one another & therefore are Also a treat to other people are sad & pathetic.
    Enough is enough, I seriously doubt if this was a site about Legalizing child pornography anyone would be discussing it - it would be GONE ! This breed has suffered long enough .. BSL is everywhere and it is because of ignorant barbaric people who feel the need to have 'control/power' over a living thing.
    Sad really ...

  • In reply to Lakawak:

    Don't get your panties in a twist, Lakawak, I don't oppose legalization of marijuana or gay marriage. I picked the Facebook category "threat of violence" because of the severe injuries done to dogs in the so-called "sport of dogfighting." Dogfighting IS a violent sport, wouldn't you agree? I guess if you enjoy seeing dogs get all ripped apart and die agonizing deaths, then dogfighting is right up your alley.

  • In reply to harpercollie:

    You realize Steve Dale only made this post to rile everyone up and get them upset. It's a great way to draw attention to yourself and your blog. Sensationalize every little thing in the world. Scare tactics are a great way to draw a crowd.

    If someone only made that page to push buttons, then you certainly made sure that they have succeeded. Much ado about nothing.

  • In reply to slippynippy:

    True that, slippynippy...

  • In reply to angelalove1:

    You guys really don't like free speech do you?

    I think most people will agree that dog fighting is a disgusting, barbaric practice, but if some people like it, they have a right to speak on its behalf.

    Plus, its a Facebook page. Do you think that a Facebook page supporting dog fighting is going to lead to legislature which allows it? It poses a threat to no one and is just a tiny blip on the internet where people who "like" an illegal practice can show their support.

    I hope the people who are part of that group grow up and understand how terrible dog fights are, but I also hope Facebook doesn't resort to censoring things as benign as this.

  • In reply to bobcat11:

    bobcat11, you have a good point...You really do. However, for starters this is clearly against rules stated by Facebook. Also, though, in sighting violence on the Internet, maybe be illegal, certainly not ethical.

  • In reply to SteveDale:

    Honestly...just shut yup. You are ill equipped for an intelligent discussion on ANY topic. A page calling for a law change is not incitnig violence. IT is not even claiming to be trying to organize any actual dog fighting events. Just a change of hjte law. If you honestly can't see the differnece, then you need to blame your parents and school system for the child neglect in not preparing you foir life in reality.

  • In reply to Lakawak:

    I love when people attacks another persons education when they themselves did not pay attention in school.

    yup /= up
    incitnig /= inciting
    hjte /= the
    differnece /= differance
    foir /= for

    you should proof read your comments

  • In reply to bobcat11:

    Free speech? Do these dogs have any free speech? I hardly think this page is 'benign'. The page may have posted no threat at its inception, but how many can it get stirred up? It maybe a blip on the internet, but people should not be allowed to support an ILLEGAL practice! FB should take it down. Period.

  • In reply to angiew:

    Agreed! Thanks for posting.

  • In reply to SteveDale:

    Disagreed. Thanks for being a douchebag!

  • In reply to slippynippy:

    @slippynippy I dis agree with you, Thanks YOU for being a douchebag

  • In reply to angiew:

    Yes, you are absolutely right. People should not be allowed to support an illegal practice. Oh wait?! That's right! They SHOULD be allowed to support anything that they want. That's how things work in our country. Everyone gets a fair say even if no one else agrees with them.

    Morons can support things like marijuana legalization and that's ok with you? Now marijuana is currently illegal as well but people seem to think that's ok and this sort of a page is not. That's just bad logic. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Sorry.

    The previous paragraph was in no way comparing marijuana legalization to dog fighting. It was simply a comparison of two illegal activities that, according to your beliefs, should not be allowed to have a facebook page calling for their legalization because they are both illegal.

    Yes, that really makes a lot of sense. Selective censorship works. You are absolutely right. *facepalm*

    I do not support dog fighting but I support any morons right to express their opinions even if it gets someone else's panties in a bunch.

  • In reply to slippynippy:

    FB is not a public place. You agree to their terms defined in the contract there by private club.
    lucky they can ever publish here again!

  • In reply to angiew:

    People are not allowed to engage in illegal practices. They are allowed to support it. If people only supported what was legal, laws would never change and we would be using a legal code from thousands of years ago.

    Civil rights movement? Forget it. They were supporting illegal practices. America? Gone. I'm sure it wasn't legal to rebel against the British. Just because a law exists doesn't mean it is right.

    Having said that, I agree that dog fighting should be illegal. But once again, people have the right to believe and support whatever they want, be it a reduction in carbon emissions or writing books that claim the Holocaust never happened. You can't take away freedom of speech just because you don't like it.

  • In reply to bobcat11:

    Is Steve Dale THAT stupid? (I mean, I realize he writes for a blog, and therefore has ZERO professionalism or journalism skills, but still..this is pretty stupid even fora blogger.) Why haven't they taken it down? Because it is not illegal, nor does it even violate the TOS of Facebook. HUGE difference between prostitution posts on Craig's List that actually set up illegal activities and a page on Facebook simply calling for a law to be changed.

    IT is nice that you are in favor of free speech as long as it is speech you like. But I am afraid that you should not be living in the United States of America if that is your position. Bye. Don't let hte door hit your worthless ass on the way out. And I am sure you can find a "blog" job (that just makes me laugh) in another country

  • In reply to Lakawak:

    The page also shows PHOTOS of fighting as well as dogs after fights - very innocent..
    Facebook allows this crap for publicity - plain & simple - and LOOK THEY HAVE IT!

  • In reply to Lakawak:

    Lakawk - a lawyer actually agreed with my some of my comments, ..I won't bore you with the finer details. Apparently, a stupid lawyer anyway. Oh by the way, lots of truth in what you said about the differences between Craig's List also. Absolutely.....I understand that. You're right. But that doesn't make Facebook right...even if the legal question is ambiguous, the ethical question seems clear to me...and in my reading of Facebook rules, it's not within their guidelines to support gratuitous violence.

    I write the blog because it's a way to instantly communicate with people, which I mostly enjoy - whether we agree or not the discourse is typically civil.

    Google and read about my journalism props before you criticize. And also read stories I've written which have appeared in hundreds of newspaper around America, and magazines...and earning awards from colleagues for my work many times over, etc.

    You are, in fact, a perfect example absolute vitriol with no reasonable motivation. Is it that people don't have use of language to articulate a reasoned point, hidden by anonymity on the web feel that common etiquette is out the window and/or are just so darn angry they take it out on others whenever they can that the feelings of others have no meaning. Thanks for making that point so clearly. My gratitude.

  • In reply to SteveDale:

    Yes, the ethical question seems clear to you, however, you don't control the world's moral compass. Something that is clearly immoral to you may seem completely moral to another person.

    That doesn't mean they would be right or that you would be wrong. It simply means that you don't agree.

    This is a pointless endeavor on your part, Steve. I find it humorous when everyone gets upset over something on the internet that they don't agree with. It's a waste of breath. It's a stupid facebook page that will be lost in time soon enough.

    Your article and general demeanor comes across as someone who simply wants attention. Your name is even in the title of your blog and everything else you do. It's not just Pet World. It's Steve fucking Dale's Pet World! Cry for attention much?

  • In reply to slippynippy:

    You could not be more wrong about Steve Dale, Slippynippy. You know it, I know it and everyone reading this post and the comment thread knows it.

  • In reply to JimmyGreenfield:

    thank you -

  • In reply to slippynippy:

    So, you think dog fighting is a good ideas?

    I really don't understand your point. And the name of the blog was decided based on the name of my newspaper column, which has been appearing in newspapers for 15 years. I did not decide on the name. That decision was made by others. Geez -

  • In reply to cvertucci:

    So Christine...I suppose if there was a page that called for the legalization of marijuana, you would be all for a coordinated effort to get that page removed too? Or is it only FREE speech that you don't agree with that should be banned?

  • In reply to Lakawak:

    Likening this to marijuana legalization is beyond retarded. One is victimless, the other is most definitely not. This isn't about free speech. It's about stopping a bunch of inbreed f*ckheads from facilitating organized abuse against what amounts to helpless victims.

    Pitbulls and other related fighting dogs that show human aggression have historically been culled. They wanted a total stranger (the ref) to be able to break them up without getting torn to pieces. The result is a breed that--while prone to being dog aggressive--is overly eager to please and loves people to the point of being comical.

    I'd be equally happy to suggest a "a coordinated effort to get that page removed" should I come across someone organizing a pro-pedophilia page too.

  • In reply to Unexploded:

    No, unexploded, YOU are retarded. (And nice 12 year old comeback, by the way) FREE SPEECH is free speech. NO ONE is getting hurt by the facebook page. No one. No humans or animals. It is free speech. PEriod. Honestly, if you don't see that, it is time for sucide since you are qoefully unprepared to live in this society.

  • In reply to Lakawak:

    After decoding a few of your posts, I think your time would probably be better spent reading vs. writing.

  • In reply to Lakawak:

    Good news, looks like Facebook pulled the page. If only it was that easy to do away with Michael Vick.

  • In reply to Unexploded:

    thanks for the 'paws up.'

  • In reply to Unexploded:

    Unfortunately, there will always be those who ignorantly comment about people they have no information on at all. Steve Dale is an award winning columnist and broadcaster who's career probably spans a greater period of time than many of these "punks" have been alive. They may want to consider getting an education before getting in as far over their heads as they are with Steve.

    For the record, in areas where Steve isn't already an expert in his own right he makes it a point to go to (and defer to) the experts in those areas, whether they be legal, medical, veterinary ... you name it. I know this because I used to be the Executive Producer for several of his radio shows. The man is beyond reproach in his honesty and sincerity, and whether you agree with his views or not you can count on the fact that he does his homework before taking a stand on anything.

    As for the current "free speech" debate, the truth is there IS no debate. Facebook isn't a place where one's right to free speech is guaranteed ... period. They are a private company and they can choose to censor anything they want, whether we like it or not. While Facebook attempts to be as open a social forum as possible, we should never forget that at the end of the day they have the right to allow or disallow anything they want. We are only guaranteed "free speech" in this country in public forums (the village square, the national mall, etc.), and if we wish to share truly protected speech on the internet the ONLY way to do it is to start our own web pages and make our own rules. Of course, we still have to adhere to the laws of the land, so if one posts pictures of illegal acts (like dog fighting) we should reasonably be expected to get a knock on our door when the authorities come to investigate ... and that's as it should be.

    Notwithstanding the fact that dog fighting is illegal, the violence it promotes happens to violate Facebook's terms of service so it comes as no surprise to me that the page was eventually taken down, and rightly so...

    Regards,

  • In reply to Planecrazy:

    Thank you Steve - but are you now saying I am elderly....that is worse than anything posted here.....

    appreciate your kind words....

  • In reply to Planecrazy:

    MOST IMPORTANT - THE PAGE HAS BEEN PULLED!!!!

    CONGRATS TO ALL OF US, AND I AM TOLD BY FACEBOOK MANY COMPLAINTS TRACED SOMEHOW BACK TO ME (How do they know this stuff?)

  • In reply to SteveDale:

    They can tell by all the people who shared your post, and the people who shared those peoples' posts! So glad this spread like wildfire - at least it did between my friends!

  • In reply to SteveDale:

    Steve ~ I tried to get this posted & shared via facebook as soon as I found your blog. It had been circulating for a day or two & I was trying to make people aware. Thank you for informing your readers !!

  • In reply to SteveDale:

    as you report steve the page is BACK up @
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/One-Million-Strong-to-Legalize-Dogfighting/159578710730160
    PLEASE REPORT TO FACE BOOK

  • In reply to Planecrazy:

    Whats more morally acceptable than Dog fighting?
    Invite Chicago's gang bangers to soldier field and give'em all knives and gun and tell the winner they can win the key to the City if they win. Than show them the key is to their cell.
    Or the same just with the Dog fighters themselves in a cage fight.
    When is Dog fighting becoming a FELONY?
    YOU THE MAN STEVE!

  • In reply to Planecrazy:

    @Lakawak12th August 2010 writes
    This logic is JUSt as idiotic as the one used by teh companies making DRM. It proves NOTHING. You can

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    Dog fighting is a felony in every state. We know violence begets more violence - and that means wherever there's dog fighting law enforcement tells me there are always other crimes.

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