Berkowitz w/Chicago's Mayor Lightfoot on handling of ICE raids of those residents White House labels "Undocumented criminals."

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot: ... you can't be legitimate if you are collaborating with an organization like ICE that has become completely  illegitimate in the eyes of many, many people.

Mayor Lightfoot: ...[W]e would have to demonstrate that they in fact committed a crime. And, that has to be proven to a judge. That's why we are emphasizing that it's important to have an order that is actually signed by a judge.

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Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot: Most important thing we can do is tell [the residents] what their rights are.

...so our message is: Unless ICE shows up with a signed court order, with judge's signature and title, absent that- they don't have to open their door or answer any questions- they can tell ICE to go away.

---We can't keep ICE out of the community. But, the reality is that ICE's numbers in the Homeland are rather limited. They depend on local police to extend their "Reach." We have eliminated that option for them by making sure our police do not share any data from our database with ICE... and we have made sure CPD is not going to participate in or facilitate any of these raids.

It is really important that our police department focus on its core mission, which is to keep our community safe and safety depends on the legitimacy of the police and you can't be legitimate if you are collaborating with an organization like ICE that has become completely illegitimate in the eyes of many, many people.

Jeff Berkowitz:  If there are comparable situations where sanctuary cities have had raids by ICE, did they usually have an idea, without the City's assistance, as to the location of the individuals they are looking for? And, what do they show up with? An order signed by a judge?

Mayor Lightfoot: In my experience, what typically happens is that they show up with just a detainer, meaning a warrant or some kind of paper work signed merely by an ICE agent. And, what we are saying is, "That's not good enough." If you want to take somebody into custody, if you want to deport someone, you've got to have a signed order by a judge. That's what the law is. Look, there have been a lot of deportations over the last ten years, and a lot of it has been done by detainer and not by a court order, so we are pushing back against that and saying no, if you want to compromise somebody's liberty interest, you've got to go to court and prove to a federal judge that you have a legal basis on which to do that.

Berkowitz: Do you think there are situations in which ICE has people on their list who have been involved in criminal activity that may be a danger to the community? Does that concern you and what would it take to persuade you that might be the case?

Mayor Lightfoot: Give me a court order signed by a Judge.

Berkowitz: Ok.

Mayor Lightfoot: If that's true, then you go to court and you get a probable cause and you get a judge to sign off on it, but on the basis of a signature of an Agent, with due respect, that's not good enough.  We have laws in this country. We have the Constitution and what we say is before we take anybody's liberty, we have to demonstate that they in fact committed a crime. And, that has to be proven to a judge. That's why we are emphasizing that it's important to have an order that is actually signed by a judge and not just a suspicion that is manifest by a detainer signed by an ICE agent.

Berkowitz: If this happens tomorrow, do you have any way of estimating how long it will continue. Do you think it will be a one day or two day thing?

Mayor Lightfoot: No, we really have no idea...but...they are talking about going after families. And, if you want to do that, the smart play is to go early, go to people's homes. But, we have no way of knowing what the actual strategy or plan is because...they have kept us in the dark.

Mayor Lori Lightfoot press conference, July 13, 5:25 pm, held at Centro Romero, a community center at 6216 No. Clark St., serving primarily refugee and immigrant resident families in Edgewater, Rogers Park and other nearby Chicago neighborhoods. Centro Romero emphasizes development of the whole family unit, community leadership and self-reliance.

UPDATE: As of 6:30 pm (CST) Sunday, there are few reports, if any, of actual or even attempted detentions or arrests in the ten cities where ICE raids were anticipated. The only exception is a few "rumored" raids in NYC involving very few individuals.

 

 

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