Why Is The Black Community "Responsible" Every Time A North Side Mob Beating Occurs?

This comment was one of many left on the article "11 Charged After Man Beaten on Near North Side."  The highlighted emphasis is mine:

Steve Mandel · Associate Creative Director at Pinnacle Advertising

It's nice to see a fairly intellegent discussion here, rather than the idiotic blatherings you ususally (sic) find. And I agree with Stephen 100%.

Everybody talks about the need for a discussion about race issues in America. But we're so tripped up in being PC nobody want to ask WHY these problems exist.

For the record, I'm not a racist. I believe we were all created equally. I don't judge by race, I judge by action. Unfortunately, when I see the Actions of the African American community, most of the the time I see either the 90% Stephen is talking about or the daily violence that the Black community is inflicting on itself.

Most people I talk to are wary of black people not because they are black but because to the thoughtless violence that envelops them.

And yes, critics, I am well aware that not every black person is violent. But you have to see the facts for what they are. They speak loudly, but God forbid we ever point that out, because then we are racists.

Mr. Mandel,

Please note the following:

I am a blogger who also happens to be black woman.  I also happen to live on the south side.

Yes the south & west sides are hyper violent in some places.

Those are facts that cannot be disputed.

Nonetheless,  I think you need to get a perspective that doesn't indict the whole black community in Chicago.

1.  You don't see the "actions" of the African American community, you see the actions of poorly parented, ill mannered children that happen to be black.

Frankly speaking had their parents done their job, they would have explained that the fact that you're black in the country draws attention to you whether you like it or not.

Acting like an asshole only reinforces the negative unspoken dialogue this country has about us.

2.  Anyone who is wary of black people because of the "thoughtless violence that envelops them" is an idiot.  Plain and simple.  I count myself lucky that in the almost 11 years I've lived on the south side that violence has rarely touched our immediate neighborhood.

I'm cautious when I move about the city and support changing the concealed carry law  until the Chicago Police Department can be fully staffed and funded.

Yet to write that violence is all of a sudden going to make perfectly normal people violent is beyond ignorant.

Or was the implication that black people aren't "normal?"

Now here's the teachable moment:

While I don't represent the opinion of every last black person in Chicago, I feel comfortable saying that all anyone wants is peace.

Peace to go to and from their home.  To and from work.  Peace to enjoy their neighborhood parks.  Peace to be able to barbecue.

It offends me when I read generalized statements making all black people responsible for the actions of  a few

Attempting to demonize all black people for the criminal behavior of the few is like making all white people responsible for meth dealers and serial killers.

It's insulting, paternalistic and smacks of bigotry.

Could you imagine some black person expressing an opinion in a newspaper asking white people and white "leaders" to take some type of social leadership role after Timothy McVeigh blew up the Murrah Building in Kansas City?

That's the equivalent of indicting all Catholics for the abuse and sex scandal.

Rational black people reject that association.

Furthermore making that association and following it by saying "I'm not a racist" is when the divide grows larger and people stop talking to each other and start yelling at each other.

Lastly, this isn't a black thing my friend, it's a generational thing with people that happen to be black.

Let me give you some other facts.

I've never heard of violence marring the Blues Fest, the Jazz Fest, the Gospel Fest or the Chosen Few DJ's annual house picnic.

All of which are attended by a mostly black older audience.

The later (Chosen Few) has tens of thousands of house music devotees descend upon Jackson Park every summer for the past 22 years.  Most of the attendees are black with a few hundred white house music fans mixed in for good measure.

I'm not saying there haven't been problems at these events, but they provide proof that in spite the violence that "envelopes" us, it does not automatically follow us.

While I'm not a fan of what you had to say Mr. Mandel, I appreciate your candor; no matter how misguided.

I hope that in the future, you will lay the blame for dumb ass behavior where it belongs.

Squarely at the feet of the person (or people) who make them.




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  • I wish and hope he reads this. Can you post it next to his comment on the other post? I hate this debate, but it is neccessary....

  • Lyletta, brilliant. Sometimes the racial hypocrisy that still "envelops" this city really blows my mind. Your best line, your most salient point, is the Timothy McVeigh question. I want to see someone attempt to answer that.

    Even folks who are not trying to be hostile are still guilty of totally preposterous one-sided thinking on "race" issues. So WBEZ recently aired a series about kids from "racially isolated" schools. They interviewed two hispanics and three black kids from schools that were all one race or ethnicity. They asked them about their opinions and experiences in such schools. It was all very interesting and enlightening, but did anyone bother to ask kids from totally white schools what their experience of racial isolation was like? Perhaps they aired that segment the next day.

    At any rate not only does "race" only seem to mean "black," or possibly hispanic, the only way we can think about it is in giant societal terms which inaccurately label entire groups of people, rarely holding individuals accountable. In addition, all this labeling goes on without media or government ever, ever addressing the social/cultural substructures that undergird, and destabilize, the neighborhoods in question.

    May you get many readers here!

  • Aside from the "it's not everyone" point, it doesn't appear that the Vietnamese community around Albany Park and Argyle is shooting up the city, and even though there is some gang violence in the Mexican community, it hasn't gotten out of control like this.

    I suppose we can also believe Gary McCarthy that crime is down in Chicago.

    Somebody has to take responsibility, but I haven't heard marksallen, Jesse Jackson Sr. or Jr., Danny Davis, the 8th Ward Democratic Organization, or any preacher other than Father Pfleger say much of anything on this issue. Maybe you can report if they are working the neighborhoods and trying to defuse the violence.

  • There appears to be a direct correlation between violence and poverty. Don't believe me? Check this out: http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2012/07/26/concentrated-poverty-and-homicide-in-chicago

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