Meet your new 2012 Cubs "long man" - Mr. Ryan Dempster

Meet your new 2012 Cubs "long man" - Mr. Ryan Dempster
thx: BadKermit & hirejimessian

Well, we were all fooled!  Normally I pride myself on being able to see through the hype (see Sosa, Sammy) and see what a pile of crap most players are.  Dempster was good, really good, at selling us on his warm-and-fuzzy facade.  He runs up mountains!  He is a super dad!  He does horrifically bad Harry Caray impersonations!  He's Canadian, and thus is polite, humble, and lovable!

Ryan Dempster has thrown the first real roadblock into the path of the Epstein Plan.

The Epstein Plan, if it was entered somewhere in an Excel model, and I am sure it is, would have under "July 2012":

  • Get one top 50 prospect in return for Ryan Dempster
  • Get at least two top 50 prospects in return for Matt Garza
  • Get other prospects in return for solid first half performers (eg. LaHair, Baker, Johnson, Soto?)

Since they took over in November, the brain trust have hit all their signposts in terms of Cuban signings, free agent draftings, and minor leaguer promotings.  I would not be surprised if on his spreadsheet, the name "Randall Delgado" was entered under July 2012 all along. 

But thanks, thanks a bunch Demps.  Or whatever your stupid Canadian hockey nickname is.  Because now, the Braves have pulled back Delgado, the Dodgers will not trade us their remaining pitching prospect (Zach Lee) for a "rental", and if Epstein wants Zach Lee, and he does, he will have to get him in a Garza trade.

Problem.  Refer to the above checklist.  Epstein wanted TWO top prospects for Garza.  Well, the Dodgers only have one left, meaning if the Garza trade takes place with them, we will net Lee and some lesser prospects.  The Dodgers DID have two top pitching prospects a few days ago.  They had Nathan Eovaldi.  Theo wanted Lee and Eovaldi for Garza, and probably could have had them.  Theo could have gotten Delgado from the Braves for Dempster, and Lee and Eovaldi from the Dodgers, and all of a sudden, the Cubs would have an outstanding core of 20, 20, and 22 year old rotation prospects. 

But Dempster dragged his feet, and we lost Delgado.  In the meantime, the Dodgers sent Eovaldi to Florida in the Hanley Ramirez deal.  And now, the best Theo can do with his two main trade chips is Zach Lee and a compensatory draft pick for 2013.  Provided of course, Dempster is dealt with properly.

In my opinion, Dempster has nearly zero trade value now.  He showed his true colors, that he is no competitor, has little business sense or loyalty to the organization he belongs to.  The best we can hope to gain now is the compensatory first round draft pick next year we will get if another team signs him in the offseason. Which is no sure thing.

The new free agent compensation rules state that the compensation only occurs if the Cubs offer him a qualifying contract of roughly $12 million and he declines it.  WELL, you say, why would he do THAT?  He has shown us all how much he wants to be here.  That's clean stealin' there.  Well, I say, the Cubs have to make him want to decline.

Take away all his starts.  The Epstein model probably has, under "August 2012", "Put prospects into the rotation - sink or swim".  I say stick to the plan.

Assuming we get Zach Lee, put him in the rotation.  Then there's Maholm (unless he's dealt), Samardzija.  Travis Wood needs to show some bounceback, you might have to switch him out.  Give frickin' Volstad one more go, and if he still can't throw strikes, give him his DFA.  It's time to give Trey McNutt a chance.  Or maybe Chris Rusin or Brooks Raley.  I think McNutt and Raley would be extremely challenged at this level at this point, but under no circumstances should Ryan Dempster be allowed to make himself comfortable on the Cubs roster from this day forward. 

Screw up the Epstein Plan?  Then sit your silly ass down in the bullpen, monkey boy.


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  • Of course, if Theo does that, are you going to be at the park buying a $78 bleacher ticket to see the Cubs stomped by a marquee team, a couple of $7.50 Old Styles or Bud Lights, etc.?

    I don't know if Demp has any loyalty to the Theo regime, but others point out that the agreement gives them the 10-5 rights. While I don't think that a baseball player is like a millwright, they do have their seniority rights under a collective bargaining agreement.

    Were you crying in your then $7.00 beer on whether A Ram should have waived his rights this time last year?

  • In reply to jack:

    Your point is well taken.

    I was crying when ARam declined to waive his rights, yes. Once again, I think the "rights" are a joke. Kind of like at my job where my boss asks me to work my fifth Sunday in a row, but out the other corner of his mouth spouts platitudes about "work-life balance".

    Unfortunately, major league sports have become so star-driven thanks to the salaries that Ryan Dempster is no longer just a person, but a major investment. If this was another company trying to compete in a marketplace that had a $56MM component that was no longer meeting the competitive need, and there was a high level of certainity that yanking it out and replacing it with a new component would result in substantially greater ROI? And there were shareholders and other parties of interest depending on this ROI? It would be criminal not to replace it.

    It is extremely impersonal and soul sucking, but it was Dempster's responsibility to go.

    To conclude: no, Jack, I cannot enjoy the wins we have had recently because they are due to the efforts of players who will not be part of the long term solution. I would, in fact, much rather lose games with young guys than reach mediocrity with old guys.

  • Rob,

    Do you truly think Dempster would take a pay cut to stay in Chicago by accepting a one-year qualifying offer?

    And Zach Lee is struggling in AA right now. No team is going to put him in a big league rotation. Not to mention it's absolutely ridiculous to propose that the Cubs spite Dempster by putting him in the bullpen, thus making the team less competitive.

  • In reply to throwitback85:

    I truly didn't think he turn down a trade to Atlanta. No, I don't think he would accept a one year offer, but none of us can say at this point that we understand any of his motivations.

    And yes, I have been yelling about this all along. Who cares about short-term competitiveness? I cannot enjoy, for example, 36 year old Soriano and Johnson getting the big hits. Those guys will be running their own car dealerships by the time we're good again.. Unless it is Castro or Rizzo, I honestly don't care at all what the 2012 Cubs do.

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