Vote for the top 15 players in Fire history

In honor of the club's fifteenth anniversary the Fire are conducting a poll asking you to name the fifteen best players in team history.  The candidates are:

Chris Armas, DaMarcus Beasley, Cuauhtemoc Blanco, Carlos Bocanegra, CJ Brown, Jon Busch, Jim Curtin, Ivan Guerrero, Diego Gutierrez, Frank Klopas, Roman Kosecki, Dema Kovalenko, Lubos Kubik, Justin Mapp, Jesse Marsch, Brian McBride, Peter Nowak, Patrick Nyarko, Marco Pappa, Logan Pause, Jerzy Podbrozny, Damani Ralph, Ante Razov, Chris Rolfe, Gonzalo Segares, Bakary Soumare, Hristo Stoitchkov, Zach Thornton, Josh Wolff, and Eric Wynalda.

You can check out the credentials for each and vote by clicking here.  You can vote once a day up until August 1.

Filed under: 2012 Regular Season

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  • Victor Pineda scored the winning goal today in the USMNT U-20's victory over Turkey in the Milk Cup. He should see some time in the 18 later this summer.

  • In reply to Guillermo Rivera:

    Yeah, right next to Bone on the bench because the starters can recover in 4 days or retire...we could bring in someone like Cahill but our international benchwarmers are handcuffing team progress and the FO is too busy trying to sign players that make you ask Who is that? The Red Bulls are trying to win a title, weather or not they do is irrelevant, they are visibly trying, The Fire just look confused.

  • In reply to DerSting:

    Sorry if off topic, I am at a loss...

  • In reply to DerSting:

    No topic is off topic.

  • so the new jersey metro cows made a splash again. and we are still sitting on the side lines.
    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1126589/everton-accept-offer-from-new-york-red-bulls-for-tim-cahill?cc=5901

  • In reply to penapirata:

    Yep....the Red Bulls have acquired midfielder Tim Cahill from Everton.

  • In reply to penapirata:

    also i saw on twitter that robayo is staying for the rest of the season. so how can we bring a new international in if he stays? are we bringing in anyone at all? whats going on with this team?

  • In reply to penapirata:

    The stuff on twitter was based on a radio show in Colombia speculating on Robayo's future. The part about him staying came from comments made to the radio show by Brendan Hannan. It was simply stated that Robayo is still a Chicago Fire player and BH was not aware of a move back to Millonarios. They took that as Robayo was staying in Chicago.

    We'll see what happens in the next few days. They are talking with Millonarios but it wouldn't shock me if he stayed here.

  • I agree in part with DerSting on this. But I remember the "splash" that the Fire made in getting Castillo, Ljungberg, etc. The FO was seemingly putting out the effort to, well, make a splash, and I guess it worked even if the results on the pitch were substandard.

    Cahill, however, is another class of player than Nery or Freddie at that point in his career.

  • All the FIFTEEN promotion going on now is just a very clumsy and obvious effort to create a smokesceen. They hope we'll all just jump on this "bandwagon" and forget they aren't building a winner on the pitch. It gives them lots of "news" stories on their web page so any negativity (hopefully) gets pushed out of site very rapidly.
    They're so excessively puffed up over it, I've seen it almost as a public announcement there will be no meaningful personnel moves.

  • In reply to Arklow:

    I'm not sure that it's a deliberate smokescreen so much as the kind of promotion that an organization does when it hits a milestone. I think you give the FO too much credit for diabolical and clever intelligence.

    It is beginning to feel hollow, though, as the team flounders on the pitch and we head into a stretch of games against Eastern rivals that will define the success of the season with little reason for optimism given what we've seen for the last 4-5 games.

  • In reply to Modibo:

    Ten or twenty year anniversaries, yes. I don't buy it for fifteen. That's not the usual point to "cellebrate."

  • I sincerely hope they've got the step on all of us with this silence, and that some amazing news comes out in the remaining 4 days of the window. If Alex coming in and Grazzini and KWS departing is the only movement happening in the window, Petrei and Leon need to be fired and Hauptman needs to sell the team and stay in LA already.

    I really think it comes down to one of two things: Either players don't want to come play for the Fire like we've been led to believe they do, or Andell Holdings are straight cheapskates. Seems either option is viable at this point. I'll reserve judgement until the window closes, but they've given little hope for optimism up to this point.

  • In reply to Jeff Krause:

    I don't know who led anyone to believe that the Fire was an amazing destination to play at besides MacDonald. Wanting people fired for not signing anyone this window is an overreaction.

    Remember how much we complained about waiting to make signings until the summer because it was hard to integrate a big name that you're going to build a team around on the fly? The only thing making threats or getting pissed will accomplish is causing the team to make a panic buy who hasn't been fully vetted by Frank and Mike Jeffries.

    We have a quality team. Relax.

  • In reply to iron81:

    We have a near quality team. Don't know if the response to the lack of signings is an overreaction or not, but a sign of frustration by the fans due to the lack of improvements. Granted the town where Toyota Park is located is not a garden spot, but the park itself is excellent and Chicago is a world class city.
    Perhaps, that the Fire may not be an amazing destination to play lies with the team management. The way the Grazzini situation was handled certainly will not inspire confidence in the organization for a prospective incoming player. There are problems or perceived problems regarding the administration
    of the club which may create a reluctance for players to sign for the Fire.

  • In reply to iron81:

    Iron81...aka, Andrew Hauptman ;)

    The Fire have a solid team, I agree. But I think fans have a right to be upset by the way the team is being run. We/I see a lot of average with this organization - we have the right to expect more and not settle for a "quality" team that might push for a playoff spot and not much else.

  • In reply to Drew:

    The Fire is being run well. Andrew gave frank and Petri a $2-3m budget to get a DP. Petri went out and contacted a bunch of potential big name signings. They couldn't get a bite. That isn't the FO's fault, it's just bad luck. Big deal if Frank couldn't read the mind of targets he hadn't even identified whenever that statement was allegedly made.

    Furthermore, while you may have the right to expect Andrew to spend tons, I disagree with you exercising that right. I support the Fire because I enjoy it. I don't need some euro star to motivate me to go to Toyota Park. If someone does, it says more about them than the FO.

  • In reply to iron81:

    I don't need a Euro star to motivate me to go to TP. Like I said, I'll continue to be a STH either way. I just want a striker who can regularly score goals. How silly and ridiculous of me to ask for that.

    If you think Andy's doing well at running the team, we truly have nothing more to discuss. I don't see how anyone not related to the man or Andell Holdings could possibly say that.

  • In reply to iron81:

    And by the way, I think it was Klopas who said something to the extent of lots of players wanting to play for the Fire. So if that's the case.....

  • In reply to iron81:

    We've had these disagreements. This won't be the last time.

    -Frank led us to believe people wanted to come here. He told the media as much weeks ago, saying he knew of "several" players who would like to come play for Chicago.

    -I don't want the powers that be gone for not signing anyone in this window. I want them gone for their part in f'ing up the Grazzini situation, for signing a reluctant Uruguayan striker in Puppo, for STILL not bringing in a target striker, for letting Jon Busch go days before the start of 2010, for Nery Castillo, and for hiring Carlos de los Cobos in the first place, to name a few things. It's not *THIS* window, it's a long-running culmination of mediocrity from the current ownership.

    -I seriously, SERIOUSLY doubt fans making threats and getting pissed is going to coerce the management into doing anything. They would have to pay attention to their fanbase to act out under some type of duress.

    -Name the quality, and how it's manifest itself in the last month and a half. Specifically with stats, not "so and so is playing well." You continue to tout Robayo as a "hard worker" and "solid player", yet I can't find anything he does other than show the ability to run in a straight line and connect a pass, both things my U12 kids can do. Start with goal production, since that's the big indicator of a winning team. Look at any of the current top teams in the league for reference, all of whom have score FAR more goals than the Fire.

    I support the Fire. I love the Fire. I don't pull the whole "I pay hard earned money for my season tickets, satisfy me" card because I will continue to buy season tickets out of love for soccer and the Fire, win or lose. But there definitely comes a point where one should question the powers that be, especially when so many other teams are making obvious moves to improve the quality of their squads (ie-NYRB), while Chicago continues to sit silently, as if it's just waiting for the transfer window to close, or to find the cheapest bargain talent they can find.

    Some people say negativity about the team and it's current state isn't healthy. I'd argue that blind, unquestioning loyalty is just as bad. At least questioning and speaking truth to power shows that we care, and that we won't accept empty promises or words without substance only meant to appease the masses.

    /rant.

  • In reply to Jeff Krause:

    Amen to the above.

  • In reply to lonecoyote:

    Amen to the amen above. And how is it possible we do not have Grazzini but still have him use an international slot? There will be no more signings and all the hope that there will be reminds me of last years debacle. They simply dont know what they are doing or want to do it from the bargain bin. You get what you pay for.

  • In reply to Jeff Krause:

    As far as I'm concerned, no one f***** up the Grazzini situation. Grazzini in his exit interview said he didn't have a problem with the club and both sides are saying there was a family problem. Until Guillermo decides to get specific with the hints he is dropping that he knows what happened, the official version is the truth.

    The Fire did sign a target forward. It's not their fault the Feds are slow processing MacDonald's visa. Personally I wouldn't sign a target forward because our style doesn't suit that type of attack, but it's nice to have the option. Barouch is also a target forward that we paid a transfer fee for. Barouch's ineffectiveness is largely due to being a poor fit for the team.

    As far as quality, in the 5 games since Grazzini left, we've allowed 3 goals. That's pretty good. No, the offense hasn't been there, but that has more to do with Grazzini leaving than a failure to sign whoever the flavor of the month is.

    Most of the other grievances listed: CDLC, Busch, Nery, those are examples of experimenting and doing whatever you can to improve. That's the exact opposite of "settling for mediocrity".

  • In reply to iron81:

    The "official" version is never the truth, Don. Ever. And if you don't think Grazzini was towing the company line just to ease the transition and not burn a bridge, you're not thinking clearly.

    MacDonald is not a target forward. While I DO side with those who say we should give him a chance to prove everyone wrong, his stats don't lie. He's got as many goals in 3 seasons as Oduro had in one, and nearly every Fire fan has agreed that, while Oduro has played well and shown a decent goal rate, he's not a go-to striker like we've tried to make him. How is a guy w/ worse stats going to suddenly do better?

    Our defense has been stalwart since Klopas came in. Goals allowed have been decent. In fact, we've allowed 3rd fewest goals this season with 22. But we're talking about scoring, not defending. The Baltimore Ravens can win the Super Bowl on defense and no offense. No soccer club in the world is going to win a championship on defense without scoring goals. So yeah, 3 goals in 5 games is great, but only if we scored at least 5 in that same period of time. A goal per game average is the minimum we should be asking of the club. And you're right, Grazzini leaving IS a huge part of that, even though the club says otherwise. The difference in play is palpable.

    I'll give you Nery. That's obviously a move that lends itself towards a desire to improve. But hiring a coach w/ no MLS experience and dropping your starting GK two days before the season are signs of schizonphrenia, not improvement.

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    In reply to Jeff Krause:

    I agree with Jeff.

  • In reply to Jeff Krause:

    If only they just dropped Busch; they gave away an asset who clearly had value, and the fact that they apparently didn't know that speaks volumes. And as for the whole Grazzini farce, if he is gone then why dont we have his international slot?

  • In reply to iron81:

    so how are we going to play macdonald when he receives his visa when we have zero open international spots open?

  • In reply to iron81:

    what is our type of attack? last time i checked the long balls out of the back strategy suits a target forward. and last time i checked thats the strategy that the fire resort to when they can't move the ball through the midfield to the forwards on the ground(since grazzini left).

  • In reply to Jeff Krause:

    well said.

  • In reply to iron81:

    We HAD a QUALITY TEAM up until the botched up mess that
    resulted in Grazzini leaving. Don't have that Attacking Midfielder
    at this time that can hold the ball and dish off that quality pass.
    We were short a Quality Striker that can put Balls into the back
    of the net. "Now we need a player like Grazzini and that Quality
    Striker that we haven't gotten at this point." No time to Relax.
    The FIRE Management should PANIC unless they add those two
    Quality Players we have commented about we are going to
    continue to see much of the same as the last five games.
    I am a Die Hart Fan and Supporter and have been from the start
    but this Poor Performance of Leon, Posada, and Petrei is
    Killing Off The Fan Base and the remainder of the Season.

  • In reply to iron81:

    will you be saying that we have a quality team after the season ends if we don't make the playoffs? will you be saying we have a quality team when after the season we will have to replace key peices of this quality team with new ones?

  • Let's see how far this "quality" team will go without help.

  • In reply to DerSting:

    Not Very Far at all. They have come to a screatching halt at this point.

  • I would like to see two strikers up top going forward. I would like to see Oduro on the bench for awhile. I would lie to see Rolfe and (fill in the blank here) up top. I want to see Alex and Pardo in the middle and Nyarko and Pappa outside. Keep the ball moving and they will score. If they continue to send balls like rockets to the stone feet of Oduro, they will end up losing more than winning with this team. The speed of Nyarko and the ability to shoot that Pappa has displayed along with the ability of Rolfe to finish when in the area will get us goals. Add another striker up top who can hold the ball, then the others will have space. Right now with pause and Pardo sitting deep, there isn't enough up top to trouble most defenses. If Pardo can't play the whole game as a lone defensive mid, then have Alex help him more until the second hlaf when Pause comes in for either Pappa or Nyarko assuming we have a lead. None of this will happen with just Oduro on top. That plan doesn't work anymore. I will scream when I see another Oduro effort fly 20 yards wide. The kid has heart, but he isn't being used correctly. He should be the decoy not the target.

  • In reply to Krasov:

    Considering what we've got to work with now, I'd like to see this. I'd pair Barouch with Rolfe to see if they can get some chemistry going.

    But I can't see Klopas sitting Pause. It just ain't gonna happen unless Pause gets injured. And say what you will about him, he's pretty durable.

  • Per twitter, Sherjill is a DP. Wow.

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