Wizards 2 Fire 0 - Game Recap and Player Ratings

Calling this effort lackluster would be very gracious.  After a 2-0 win against Columbus the Fire came out and played like a team that has been eliminated from playoff contention.  Certainly the revolving door of personnel changes due to injury and call ups played a part in the overall performance but an apparent lack of desire seemed to be the pervasive feeling in the locker room afterwards.  "I don't know what to say it is.  It's more mental fitness, I think.  We aren't mentally strong enough for the games this year" said a disappointed CJ Brown.  When asked what the reason for the lack of focus could be Brown responded, "Personalities.  We used to have those type of guys that would battle.  This year we don't have them.  There's a few guys out there working their tails off.  We have to build around those guys.  Logan Pause, he's your man right now.  He works all day and doesn't get enough credit for what he does."

Brown is also undecided about next season and feels the current roster does not understand what it means to play for the club.

You can hear Brown's comments about the pride of playing for the Fire and his thoughts about retirement after the season by clicking here.   

Player Ratings

GK Andrew Dykstra (5) - Wasn't bad and managed to record four saves.  Stopping either of the two Kansas City goals would have taken spectacular efforts.

D Bratislav Ristic (5) - Struggled a bit in this one after a fine effort on Friday night against Columbus.  Ristic vacated the right side to follow his mark in the 45th minute which allowed Arnaud to find space and score just before half time.

D CJ Brown (5) - Continued to take a physical beating and continues to push but one has to wonder how much is left in the tank at this point in the season.  Was injured late and struggled through the last twenty minutes or so. 

D Kwame Watson-Siriboe (5) - Lost possesion a few times but didn't commit any egregious errors.  Didn't do anything of particular note either other than managing one of the Fire's whopping four shots on goal. 

D Krzyzstof Krol (6) - Made a few nice runs and managed to deliver a cross or two only to find that no Fire players had migrated toward the goal.  One of the few players who actually seemed to attempt an effort tonight.

M Peter Lowry (4) - Lowry played the central midfield role but he was camped next to Logan Pause for most of the night in front of the defenders.  As a result the Fire were woefully outplayed in the middle of the pitch.  The gaping hole in central midfield that was evident for most of the first half of the season returned tonight. 

M Logan Pause (5) - As CJ Brown pointed out in post game, Pause does play hard.  The heart is there but the Fire are playing their CAM position in a 4-4-2 alignment too close to the defenders to help Pause cover ground. 

M Corben Bone (4) - Did not play well but the decision to remove him in the 38th minute was in a word, ridiculous.  Bone didn't appear to be playing any worse than the rest of the squad at that point and singling him out just didn't make sense.  It should also be noted that he was playing out of his natural position. 

M Calen Carr (4) - Absent for most of the night.  Touches were few and far between. 

M Patrick Nyarko (5) - Came on for Bone in the 38th minute and didn't distinguish himself either.  Did provide one flash of hope when he sent a cross into the box in the 60th minute to provide a scoring chance for a teammate, unfortunately no one in a red jersey was there to receive it.  Lowry did arrive late.....only because he was playing too far behind the action. 

F Collins John (4) - Managed to get a shot off on a header in the 7th minute.  That was the last we heard of him.

F Freddie Ljungberg (5) - Tried to push forward from the withdrawn striker role but with little support behind him and Collins John in front, the Fire become very easy to defend.  Moved to right mid when Castillo entered the match. 

F Brian McBride (5) - Entered the game at half time for John and at least made himself available.  Managed a shot on goal and provided a cross to Castillo in the 62nd minute, who for some reason stopped his run.

F Nery Castillo (4) - Other than stopping his run on the aforementioned play he also managed an awful free kick from a dangerous spot in the 60th minute. 

Next Match

A barnburner between two former league powers.  Fire vs DC United. 

The highlight of this match is Brian McBride's final home match before retirement.  Unfortunately some of his teammates seem to be in retirement mode already. 

Post Game

De Los Cobos explains his reason or pulling Corben Bone and addressed the apparent lack of energy in the post game press conference here.

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  • Hard to watch players who lose posession and do not make the effort to win it back. I see guys in my pick up league play with more passion than this lot!

    Like those season ticket pitches during the match, I can just see the orders coming in after last night's thriller!

  • Tired of hearing Carlos de los Cobas lame excuses.
    Let's get real and be truthful, he is a loosy coach and
    needs to be replaced with someone who actually knows how
    to coach and motivate the team.
    Asking players to play in positions which are not their
    natural positions or strengths is poor coaching.
    Dont aquire players who are good at certain positions and then
    have them play in different positions is not good.
    I would give Mike Matkovich a chance in the remaining gaimes and
    if things dont change get a "New Coach."
    Look at the New York Red Bulls transformation from a mediocre team
    last year to a real Power House under a "Good Coach."
    Their New Coach brought in the right players and knows how to
    motivate the team which Carlos has shown he cant do.

  • In reply to TigerJMS:

    "Look at the Red Bulls . . . "

    I would've never thought we see that statement in a positive light. This sucks.

  • In reply to TigerJMS:

    We were bad this year. Just think of what we could lose next year. We could be without McBride, Ljungberg, Conde, Brown, Krol, 2 more players we will lose in the expansion draft. So I guess DLC could bring in players to play his style but he doesnt have a good track record with his signings. Martinez and Umanzor come to mind. So things dont look good for next year either. From this whole season, DLC doesn't look like a guy that can win us the MLS Cup and the Supporters Shield. We need to find a coach that will do that for us. I think DLC needs to be a national team coach again. His tactics seem more suited for a struggling team that plays on the counter and doesn't take control of the game. We dont have those players that do that. DLC talks to the media at the start of the year about passing and attractive football but we have never played that way. CJ plays 10 to 20 long balls to nobody every game. We need to have center backs that are quick and good with their feet. Conde needs to be resigned. We can't afford to lose both CJ and Conde this off season. A center back pairing of Robinson and KWS going into next season would be terrible. Something needs to change this offseason...

  • In reply to Rubberbandman189:

    They will need another center back especially if Conde walks. They can't go into 2011 with Robinson and Siriboe as starters and not expect trouble.

    There will be changes aplenty.

  • In reply to cesba:

    I'm surprised we never tried Krol at centerback.. Not saying he would of done great, but with all our injuries I think it could of been worth a try, especially because of his size and aggressiveness.

  • In reply to ChicagoFire8:

    Surprised about that too

  • In reply to cesba:

    Wellllll, scanning the comments I realize that I'm in a distinct minority (of one) but I still feel that we need to drop Conde. First of all and primarily, he's a "head case". When we had a solid back line with Soumare and Segares we could tolerate his inconsistency and foolish fouls but we can't build a back line around him. If Segares stays and regains his old form AND we pick up a strong defender and leader then we could tolerate him, but then he might be even more dispensable. We never seem to hear about who the leaders in the locker room are (maybe that's the problem, there are none) but I would be shocked if Conde was one. His constant travails (wanting to follow Orsorio, contracts, yellow cards) are becoming too much of a distraction. And BTW, I used to be a big fan of his.

  • In reply to shortpasses:

    Having Soumare covered up for alot of Conde's "risk taking". They need a defender regardless of whether or not he decides to accept a very good contract offer that was represented to him.

    Leaders=Brown and Pause

  • In reply to shortpasses:

    Guys
    Carlos de los Cobos is a very bad coach for MLS or in general.
    There are a lot of good coaches out there with proven records.
    We definatley need a good coach who can motivate and select players. Willy Roy of the former Chicago Sting could even be in the mix.When a player is chosen for a certain position allow him
    to play to his strength. Let's get rid of the current under achievers like John Thorington, Calen Carr,Mike Banner,Dasan Robinson,Deris Umanzor,Nery Castillo,maybe even Collins John since he is so inconsistant and retire CJ Brown,Brian McBride. Now use the money to acquire young inspiring forwards, another quality midfielder and central defender. Sorry to be so harsh just don't want a repeat of 2010. Frank klopas needs to put on notice by Andrew Hauptman about his poor decisions in 2010 and that more is expected from him going forward if he wants to be around in 2012.

  • In reply to TigerJMS:

    TigerJMS, I agree with you 100 percent on getting rid of guys like Thorrington, Dasan, Banner, Umanzor, Castillo, Carr and John. Don't forget, Lowry and Husidic could be unprotected for the MLS expansion draft. They need more than one forwards, central midfielder, holding midfielder and central defender to tag team with KWS. Willie Roy hasn't coach for 25 years in the pro level; it will feel like a Dick Vermeil type situtation...Roy will never happen and he doesn't have the desire to coach anymore. This will be an interesting offseason for the Fire.

  • In reply to TigerJMS:

    Ok...you had me up until Willy Roy. ;)

  • In reply to cesba:

    good old NIU Willy Roy... hahaha haven't heard that name in AWHILE

  • In reply to shortpasses:

    Hey, it's Luis & Ady, we were wondering if you can give us your email adrress?
    We would like to ask you a question regarding a visit to Erie Neighborhood House to speak to the students attending the Visionaries Program, about blogging.

    Thank You !
    Sincerely,
    Luis & Ady

  • In reply to ZCee10:

    Fireconfidential@aol.com

  • In reply to ZCee10:

    Pretty objective look at the Fire
    http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/throw-all-good-things-end-even-dynamo-and-fire

  • In reply to cesba:

    that is a pretty reasonable take on the fires season, and i agree with it up to a certain point.

    sure the team has gone thru a lot of changes this year - injury, new players, new coach, etc

    but CLDC has to take some of the blame for this reason: he is the one who keeps doing the musical chairs lineups. sure sometimes changes are forced due to injury, but then he goes & makes 4 more changes as well. its like he is just trying & trying to find a lineup that will "work" but the lack of continuity is largely whats preventing this in the first place

    but my biggest gripe of the way the team has played this year is.... the way the team has played - particularly since the June break. not so much wins-losses, but the lack of any forward progress. i could live with it if they were attacking, getting chances, and just not scoring, or getting outscored. but there was a stretch of about 6 or 7 games where they simply had no offense at all. few half chances, even fewer real chances, and the only goals scored were off set-pieces or penalty. you knew by watching the game the best result they would likely get was a 0-0 draw. obviously playing 10 men behind the ball they were still giving up goals anyways (when the ball is on your defensive side of the field for 70% of the game, your defense is going to break down at some point) chicago's defense wasnt disciplined enough to prevent other teams from scoring most of the time, so it made more sense to me that they tried a more attacking strategy, and let the defense give up its silly goal that was bound to happen anyway.

    off-the-ball movement was horrible during this 6-7 game stretch, passing was bad, and there was NO midfield support for the lone striker formation, which is kinda what you need for a strategy that uses a single target man forward

    so sure, there were a lot of obstacles for the fire to overcome, and a lot of changes happend that made things difficult, but just watching the game, chicago looked the worse team more often than not. just looking at the 3-2 win at LA galaxy, a good first 20 minutes, a horrible final 70 minutes, it felt like the fire knew that 3-0 was barely enough

  • In reply to CountChocula:

    My biggest gripe with DLC is his inability to make effective tactical substitutions. He simply cannot do it.

  • In reply to cesba:

    USA has withdrawn the bid for the 2018 World Cup in order to focus on 2022

    http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/bidders/2022/media/newsid=1318374.html?cid=twitter_voiceofthesite#usa+committee+focus+2022+fifa+world+cup

  • In reply to cesba:

    i think its a no brainer that US should get the 2022 bid

    1994 was one of most successful ever, and the US was in its soccer infancy back then. now with MLS being a credible league, the US nat'l team is competitive with anyone, and there are so many more US players playing in Europe, ESPN showing MLS and EPL games, the visibility of the sport in the US is 100 times greater than it was in 1994.

  • In reply to CountChocula:

    Yep....an award in 2022 could take the game to the next level in the US.

  • In reply to cesba:

    Wasn't the WC this year supposed to "take the game to the next level in the US"? If the game is not at the next level by 2022 then it never will be. That is 12 years from now. That is 3 more WC before then.

  • In reply to Rubberbandman189:

    If the US made a miraculous run to the semi's or something like that maybe it would have raised respect for the game a notch but nothing will equal the importance of hosting the tournament on home soil. I don't think anyone was expecting this year's event to take the game to another level but it did get soccer into mainstream attention.

    The Cup in 1994 resulted in the creation of MLS. Another 12 years of growth and a World Cup in 2022 would be massive.

  • In reply to cesba:

    Expansion draft details

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/expansion-draft-set-november-24

  • In reply to shortpasses:

    Conde came to the league in 2007... He has been an MLS ALl-STAR twice. Enough said.

  • In reply to ChicagoFire8:

    That doesn't exempt the fact that he's had a terrible year in 2010.

  • In reply to cesba:

    If we get rid of everyone that had a terrible year in 2010 then I think we'd be left with Nyarko, Ristic, Johnson, and Watson-Siriboe.

  • In reply to ChicagoFire8:

    lol...very true.....Pappa had a decent first half too.

  • In reply to ChicagoFire8:

    Jenn Patterson, sideline reporter for Fire games on CSN is out.....

    http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/10/jen-patterson-out-at-comcast-sportsnet.html

  • In reply to cesba:

    good riddance

  • In reply to Rubberbandman189:

    GR, I have another question about MLS policy I was wondering if you could clear up. How come some players are brought into the league by a certain team, like Junhino and Lindpere for LA and NY, but others are forced to have a team selected for them like Pearce and McBride, and now seemingly Jay Demerit as well? Why couldn't the Fire just bring in Jay Demerit the way NY brought in Lindpere?

  • In reply to fire1020:

    Colton,
    US Internationals have to go through the allocation process in order to sign with MLS.

  • In reply to cesba:

    Alright, thanks

  • In reply to Rubberbandman189:

    Corben Bone is more of an center midfielder than outside mid. They need to give Bone a chance to succeed at his normal position; it takes time for a rookie like him to adjust in the MLS. Watson-Siriboe needs a true center back to pair up with him since Robinson isn't that guy and Brown has a lot of miles in him but not getting any younger. They need forwards, center midfield, a real holding midfielder and center back in order to blend well in DLC system. As for Brown's comment on Pause, he is a hard worker just like the Carr's, Banner's and Umanzor's of the world but just like those guys I'd mentioned, Pause isn't a good player. Here is quick breakdown on players to build your team around:

    Los Angeles: Donovan, Buddle and Beckham
    Columbus: Schelotto, Rogers and Hejduk
    Real Salt Lake: Findley, Soborio and Rimando
    New England: Joesph
    Houston: Ching and Davis
    Toronto FC: De Rosario
    FC Dallas: Ferriera and Cunningham
    Colorado: Casey and Cummings
    Seattle: Montero and Zakuani
    New York: Henry, Marquez and Angel

    For Brown to mention that Logan Pause is the guy to build your franchise around is stagnant. In a big market like Chicago, you can't have a mediocre defending midfielder with no ball skills that panics with pressure put on him to build a franchise around. Ask any MLS executive if any player they want to start a franchise, 100 percent of them won't name Logan Pause. Fire have complementary players like Nyarko, Pappa, Watson-Siriboe, Kinney, Johnson and Ristic but they need 3 or 4 difference makers on that team but that is what the team is lacking.

  • In reply to longoria3:

    Logan Pause is our only consistent player that we have. We know exactly what we will get from him every game. He is a player that will work his ass off for the team and do everything he can to help organize and keep that ball. Would you rather have a player bring the ball down and keep possession or a player that has to try and beat every player that comes close to him and actually beats them 10% of the time. Without Logan Pause on the field this year we would look even more unorganized. If Brown retires along with McBride, Logan will be the captain of this team. I also dont think Brown is saying that Logan is our best, most skilled player. I think he is simply saying that the players on this team need to put in the work and play with the heart that Logan Pause plays with. Everyone complains about these players that don't play with "tradition, honor, passion" but the player that does this the most gets ripped on because of it. You need to make up your mind. Logan Pause is our Claude Makelele. There is no other player on this team that does what he does. Thorrington can't do it. Baggio can't do it. Conde can't do it. We don't need our defensive midfielder to be attacking, thats Ljungberg's job. We don't need him to dictate the tempo, thats also Ljungberg's job too. We need him to keep possession when he gets it and win the ball back when we lose it.

    I bet if you asked those GM's of teams for a top 5 defensive mid in this league, Logan's name would get called.

  • In reply to Rubberbandman189:

    I think Brown was referring to the type of effort Pause provides every day and not necessarily building a team around him (at least I hope that's what he was saying). There's no doubt that he's the best suited player on the squad to play the position but he's very limited in terms of the system the Fire claim they want to play.

    Pause also missed four games earlier this season and things didn't fall apart....in fact Lowry and Husidic played pretty well together in his absence. The record in those four games....2-1-1

    Beckerman, Marquez, Alonso, Mastroeni, De Guzman, Joseph, Carroll....just sayin'

  • I can definitely tolerate losing PROVIDED I can see some development, some progress towards a goal (pun intended). Unfortunately, I honestly can't see any real progress during the past year. Despite my belief that Castillo and definitely Ljundberg may have been over-hyped, and that injuries had a real impact, the team as a whole is in a directionless cloud. Throughout the year, players have been played out of position, sometimes, admittedly, due to injuries, but much too often for NO apparent reason. While I continue to believe in the desire to play a quick-passing, carry the ball out of the back game, I am no longer confident that DLC can actually accomplish that task. I am more and more confident that he has developed a World Cup coach mentality where he sees no sense of urgency to solidify a lineup inside a 4 year cycle. The Fire will need a dramatic shakeup over the off-season with the hopeful departure of Conde and Ljundberg and a re-orientation toward youth. Although I had truly considered THISto be a "re-building "year, I'm afraid that has been deferred until next year and likely needs to be done without DLC -- and I'm quite sorry to say that and have no ideas as to who should replace him.

  • In reply to shortpasses:

    Hopeful departure of Conde and Ljundberg??? If we want to win games then start talking about the departure of CJ Brown and Nery Castillo. Conde is a GREAT player... think about how frustrated you are with this season, now times that by 100 and I'm sure that's what Conde and our other top players felt this season. It's very hard to perform when your coach is an idiot and your 'usually' playoff bound team is way under 500. Conde is an MLS ALL STAR for a reason.

    I don't understand all you Ljundberg haters. The guy has done nothing but gave 100% every game that he has gone out there in a Fire jersey. Yeah, he has trouble finishing but he draws about 3 defenders every time he gets inside the box, opening up other players (Bone last night who of course hit it wide)... he's the perfect set-up man, and his passion for the game is unmatched. Not only do we need to re-sign Freddy, we need to find more players like him that have that heart and desire, who want to go out there and win EVERY game.

    Our main goal should be getting rid of Los Cobos... from there on we can stem out the weak links.

    Castillo is a joke.

    I also love CJ Brown, but his lack of game speed is really affecting him and he shouldn't be starting. SO, if he's not starting he should probably retire. CJ Brown/Brian Mcbride coaching jobs?!?!

  • In reply to ChicagoFire8:

    Conde is an MLS best 11 player who has been awful this year. He was an all star because he performed on the field.....there's no coaching that would have prevented some of the silly yellow cards and turnovers that he burdened the team with this season.

  • In reply to cesba:

    I disagree that there is no coaching that would of prevented those yellow cards and turnovers. EVERYTHING stems from the coach. I think if a 'respected' coach would of sat him down and let him know what's up then his game would of changed.

  • In reply to ChicagoFire8:

    As a player you still have to respect the game and your teammates even if you don't respect the coach (which may or may not be the case). Conde should be held responsible for his actions, particularly since he is in a contract year and should know better.

    Conde has been alerted to "what's up"....he's been benched numerous times this season but continued to commit silly turnovers and fouls. That's on Conde.

  • In reply to cesba:

    I think benching someone doesn't do much but frustrate the player even more. Conde's bad play could easily be put on himself (and maybe should be) but then you have to look at the fact that EVERYONE was playing bad... so then who's to blame? I'd say the coach.

  • In reply to ChicagoFire8:

    The coach is ultimately responsible for the won/loss record of the team, which he should be but not everyone has played badly.

    I wouldn't credit DLC for Nyarko playing well in the same fashion that I wouldn't blame him for Conde's problems.

  • In reply to cesba:

    Okay Conde had a bad year (along with the rest of our team.) But I think everyone knows how much potential this guy has. With the right coach/mentor he could easily be the best defender in the league so I just think it would be a huge mistake not re-signing him.

    We've also got to stop giving DLC all these excuses for having such a terrible season. We expect the BEST here in the Chicago and if DLC can't put together a winning team, then we should give someone else the job that can.

  • In reply to cesba:

    Angel admits that he's out of NY after the season

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/%C3%A1ngel-says-he-wont-be-back-new-york

  • In reply to cesba:

    Let's get him!

  • In reply to patrickhattrick:

    Drop Nery, pick up Angel!

  • In reply to ChicagoFire8:

    Yea, drop the 26 year old for the 35 year old. Bring back Blanco so he can play balls to him...

  • In reply to Rubberbandman189:

    Who cares about age when he is doing nothing for the Fire but wasting our Money and DP slot. It's all about goals and results and if we need a 35 year old to do that, then that's what we need to do.

  • In reply to shortpasses:

    yeah this team has gotten worse as the year progressed. earlier in the season when they lost, it was usually a flub or lack of momentary concentration of a player or two, but they often outplayed or played as well as their competition

    somewhere in mid-season, chicago started playing very negatively, and the only times they outplay their competition is when chicago has had a full weeks rest and the opposition has had 3 days.

    i think i've been pretty patient with CDLC, but either he must go, or a lot of the players must go, because the group he has either cannot or will not play the soccer style he wants

  • In reply to CountChocula:

    "i think i've been pretty patient with CDLC, but either he must go, or a lot of the players must go, because the group he has either cannot or will not play the soccer style he wants" ---------------Great, reasonable, and unemotional summary of what has to happen during the off season.

  • In reply to shortpasses:

    Yep....if DLC is going to be back then Klopas needs to find players that will fit and be willing to play the system the coach is looking for.

  • In reply to CountChocula:

    There will be surely be some significant turnover on the roster. DLC is certainly not safe either.

  • In reply to shortpasses:

    Did anyone happen to see Klopas' interview after the game last night? How come all of the suddent have injuries become a main factor for the team sucking this season. Didn't the team last year have just as many, if not more, significant injuries yet Frank nor Andrew ever made one public comment, probably because the team had a winning record last year.

    It seems this is just another classic example of Frank failing to take accountability for his horrible signings and empty promises to the fans.

    On a final note, can someone translate back to Nery that unibrows are not a fashion statement.

    Better luck next year guys....

  • In reply to FrankFlopas:

    Forget that....someone should explain the offsides rule and effective free kick taking. It looked like Ljungberg tried to explain the latter last night.

  • In reply to cesba:

    Forget which part? The fact that injuries are being used as an excuse for the team sucking this year, Klopas continues to fail and being accountable for this disastorous season, or the fact that Nery's eyebrow starts at his left ear and ends at his right ear?

    Seen as how Klopas brought in DLC and Nery, don't you think there should be someone that could communicate to Nery what offsides is and effective free kicks? Just seems like there is no discipline or respect.

  • In reply to FrankFlopas:

    The comment about offsides and free kicks was a bit tongue in cheek. Discipline and respect for teammates is something Castillo has taken heat for on previous teams he has played for.

  • In reply to cesba:

    We can't be wasting a DP slot on Nery.. shit if we are going to keep him, give him $40,000 a year and let him keep using fitness as an excuse to why he is terrible.

  • In reply to ChicagoFire8:

    Sure Nery has been disappointing this season but he was coming from his off season to the middle of the season. Sure he is a professional but this season is over so it doesn't matter anymore. If the same problems happen next year then we need to call for his head. But if the DP spot was between Nery or Blanco, we made the right decision in signing Nery. I think he can be a force in this league and we will need him to be next year if we want to have any chance of doing anything.

  • In reply to Rubberbandman189:

    Nery has been beyond disappointing. I guess you are willing to give him more chances than me..

  • In reply to cesba:

    Jimmy Conrad calls the Fire "uninspired" on Extra Time radio today.

  • In reply to cesba:

    That about sums up our season.

  • In reply to FrankFlopas:

    Jeff Crandall's weekly podcast with CJ Brown

    http://ht.ly/2T3FD

  • In reply to FrankFlopas:

    Fire to honor Brian McBride on Saturday
    http://ht.ly/2T3FD

  • In reply to FrankFlopas:

    Last night's game was painful to watch, think you were a bit over generous with some of your ratings,
    don't think anyone played that well in the first place, hard to put the finger on anyone when everyone
    looks mediocre, though I agree that at least Krol attempted to force the issue.
    This was the most boring game I watched in a long time, brought a guest(new to soccer) with me who kept asking when something is going to happen and wondered what's so great about soccer.
    Doesn't Dykstra know there are other ways to distrbute the ball besides long punts down field,
    apparently he doesn't trust his defense.
    We kept losing the ball to Kansas City by playing this way, rather difficult to set the pace and make space. (reminded me of the Hamlett reign)
    See a lot of fans are turning against DLC, I started questioning his ability in mid-May,
    calling him De Los Moron, I still feel the same way, but whatever the feelings (on the team)
    regarding him, one would think the team would still have enough pride to step up to the plate
    anyway, can't completely blame the coach for last night's game.

  • In reply to lonecoyote:

    Lone,
    The same can be said for the entire season, while DLC certainly should feel the heat he can't take the entire blame for what's gone wrong this season.

  • In reply to lonecoyote:

    I have never been in favor of firing any fire coach but DLC has got to go. His treatment of Bone is absurd, especially given he was played out of position. Conversly, perhaps Bone is no good and if so Klopas would have to be at fault for drafting him. The fact they took so long to sign Ristic makes me wonder on their judgement. Carr, and I am hesitant to beat a dead horse here, has never been MLS material. Years of injury and headless chicken running make me also question our coach and front office. Carr is relatively well paid and so this bewilders. I would bet he will not even be picked up in expansion. Castillo may be a bust but given his age and time not playing that has yet to be seen. This years showing is not a surprise and if the front office is incompetent, or at least less competent than RSL, Red Bulls, or Dallas, all of whom changed things around in short order, we have another poor season ahead.

  • In reply to Celt:

    The Ristic deal wasn't closed due to some negotiating difficulty with his agent. Seems there was a deal in place a few weeks before he was signed and then the terms changed before the final agreement was reached.

    The jury is still out on Castillo, but it's not looking good.

  • In reply to cesba:

    The frustrating thing is that he should of been signed MONTHS before. I guess the positive is that he really is an asset to our team now and I cant wait to see what he brings to the table next season.

  • In reply to Celt:

    I understand the frustration here, but it's important to point-out a few things:

    As of this writing, only 1 of the 7 teams which began the 2010 season with a new coach, has qualified for the playoffs. Should KC get in, that would be 2.

    Further - and I think this is more significant - of the 21 FIRE players used in the '09 MLS Cup playoffs, just 11 of those players were available to start the '10 season (due to injury, Carr and Thorrington weren't available until July & August, respectively).

    Consider that Carr/Thorrington, along with Ristic, Castillo and Ljungberg join the team mid-season, and you've got a massive chemistry change at a critical point in the season (essentially, you've altered 20% of your roster and if you apply the 80/20 rule here - a stretch, I know - that 20% effectively impacts the other 80% in ways you can't predict).

    My point is this: From the start, the club had gifted veterans and talented young players who offered what they could for a new coaching staff. The post All Star game roster adds required more time than what was available, to find success - in the locker room and on the field.

    So much worked against this team from the start that it's unfair to lay sole blame at the feet of any one particular person.

    Everyone in that locker room is pissed-off about the season. Hopefully clear heads prevail, courageous decisions are made and 2011 becomes a season to which we can all look forward.

  • In reply to ChrisDoran:

    Well said.

  • In reply to ChrisDoran:

    Chris, you just summed it up. I was saying the exact same thing based on changes during the season. Don't forget the players that were added during mid season blended with the roster he had the beginning of the season. Not only the players are getting used to DLC system, DLC is getting used to the league is well. It takes time for players to adjust to a new system compared to system they were used to in the past. If I were Klopas, I would get rid off 10 or 11 players on the roster that will blend well for DLC. To point the finger at the coach for the teams failure is a little bit harsh. I will give a one more year to succeed with brand new players and add 3 or 4 impact players to go with the young players like Pappa, Nyarko, Bone, Watson-Siriboe, Pineda, Johnson, Kinney and Segares.

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