Fire Training Report - Nyarko, Thorrington, John Updates and More

The Fire continue training this weekend ahead of Wednesday's match against the New England Revolution.  Here are a few highlights from today's session :

  • Patrick Nyarko sat out of training again but he is feeling better and will see the doctor today.  Carlos De Los Cobos is hopeful that he can return to training tomorrow or Monday so that he can be available for Wednesday. 
  • John Thorrington has resumed full training and may be a week or two away from returning full time.  De Los Cobos sees Thorrington's role as a central midfielder when he is available for game action.  They are being cautious with Thorrington since previous attempts to return early have set him back.   
  • De Los Cobos is working on integrating Freddie Ljungberg and Nery Castillo into the line up effectively.  He feels Ljungberg is best suited to play centrally behind one or two forwards.
  • The coach has not decided on which formation he will employ on Wednesday.  "This is my challenge.  I need to decide whether one forward or two (formations) suits our team".
  • De Los Cobos doesn't believe there will be any more big additions to the team but Bratislav Ristic is still training with them and he could be a player that is added to the roster at some point. 

 

  • De Los Cobos has had additional conversations with Collins John about giving his all during training and he believes John has made strides this week.  "Collins is still a young player.  He is a very good player but his effort is part of the maturation of a young player. He has improved and been very good this week."
  • The coach believes that Gonzalo Segares is already close to being match fit.  Segares and Krzyzstof Krol will compete for the left back spot.  "Krol is stll a young player and he can learn from the competition for one position."  De Los Cobos did not elaborate on who would start on Wednesday.
  • Nery Castillo is still working on his fitness since he was essentially on vacation for two months after the Euro season ended.  He feels Castillo is a few weeks away from being 100% but he did not rule out the possibility of Castillo starting on Wednesday.
  • It is possible that we could see Castillo as a withdrawn forward or possibly even on the wing at some point. 
  • Castillo, Ljugnberg, Umanzor, Conde, and John all stayed longer after practice to continue working.  Castillo defeated both Ljungberg and Umanzor in soccer-tennis matches after training wrapped up. 
  • Jimmy Buffett's parrotheads have invaded the parking lot for tonight's concert.  Hopefully the pitch remains in good shape for a quick turnaround and a mid week game. 

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  • Official injury report.

    CHICAGO FIRE -- DOUBTFUL: MF John Thorrington (L quad strain); PROBABLE: FW Patrick Nyarko (headaches)

  • I hope CDLC's comments re: formation are a sign that he is adjusting to the reality that is 4-2-3-1 in the modern game.

    ------------John-------------
    Pappa----Ljungberg----Castillo
    -------Pause---Husidic-------
    Krol---Conde---Brown--Robinson
    -----------Johnson-----------

    Subs: McBride 60th to 70th''
    Nyarko (if safe to do so)

  • In reply to RadioGonzo:

    So you think Husidic deserves to start over Nyarko if healthy? Castillo was fantastic up top last game. Your formation is fine but it should look more like this...

    ----------McBride/John----------
    --------------Castillo----------
    Pappa----------------------Nyarko
    ------------Ljungberg------------
    ---------Pause-------------------
    Sega-----Conde---Brown---Robinson
    ------------Johnson--------------

  • In reply to Rubberbandman189:

    I like this line up but I'd like to see Kinney get a shot at right back.

  • In reply to cesba:

    I think Robinson is a more defensive minded defender and thats what we need now. We have so many offensive minded players that we need people to stay home more on the defensive end.

  • In reply to Rubberbandman189:

    I think De Los Cobos agrees with you on this.

  • In reply to cesba:

    Sega and Robinson can both get up and down the wings well enough. But when it comes to defending, they are both better than their competition at the position. When/If we can get healthy and fit, we have the best and most depth in the league. We almost have a decent to good backup at every position. That is incredible for this league. With the roster limitations and salary cap.

  • In reply to RadioGonzo:

    good to see collins john working hard this week - staying after practice, etc.

    these guys have to want it more. extra practice shows a positive attitude, keep it up

  • In reply to CountChocula:

    Yes, he stayed after along with several others. Castillo, Ljungberg, and Umanzor were the last three off the field yesterday. Castillo really seems committed to putting the time in.

  • In reply to cesba:

    It's great to see the dp's putting in the extra effort.

  • In reply to fire1020:

    yeah the DPs - they will set the example and hopefully some others will follow & get this team on the right track

  • In reply to CountChocula:

    Galaxy defeated the Red Bulls yesterday 1-0 in New York to keep that automatic Eastern Conference second place playoff spot within reach. New York is only 10 points ahead of the Fire while playing four more matches.

  • In reply to CountChocula:

    Excellent updates all around - great job, GR!

  • In reply to RedLine55:

    thanks Redline!

  • In reply to RedLine55:

    ditto - you put up a lot of interesting info we don't get anywhere else. thx Guillermo

  • In reply to CountChocula:

    thanks for reading Count

  • In reply to CountChocula:

    I've been thinking about the difference between the Fire tactics lately vs the tactics they used at the start of the year. seems to me they are not sending the fullbacks forward as much, and this is really stifling the offense. I remember games where Krol was far foward and delivering decent crosses into the box, or Ward even taking shots from the edge of the box. Even when they didn't necessarily win, you knew the Fire were playing well and it was a few lapses of concentration or a fluke play that cost them a win (thinking of the KC and colorado matches in particular). This has been missing since about mid June i think. The Fire have been outplayed for large portions of their recent games, even the LA galaxy game that was won 3-2. Krol has been disappointing of late, and Dasan is a decent defender but just looks clumsy going forward (tho if he is given time & space he can put in a decent cross from just past mid-field), I think the addition of Segares may be a very crucial one for the Fire. more important that the castillo signing in the short term at least

    these next 3 games are gonna be very important and the Fire need to win 2 of them at least if they are gonna compete for a spot. draws are not gonna help a heck of a lot, they need wins now

  • In reply to CountChocula:

    Do we need our fullbacks bombing up the wings when we now have Ljungberg, Castillo, Pappa, Nyarko, and McBride/John fully capable of handling the offense for us. We need our defenders to defend now. We dont need 7 players all bombing up the field to score leaving Pause, Conde, and Brown to defend the counter. We need to keep some possession and let the players that play midfield and forward handle those tasks. The defenders need to not let goals in and not let players in behind them like they have for the entire season. Sega needs to be a defender and not a left sided midfielder if we want to win games. Same goes for Robinson.

  • In reply to RadioGonzo:

    I would like to see mcbride start up top with ljungberg, they played extremely well off of eachother against RBNY. I think John would be better suited as a sub because he can add some pace to the game.

  • Thanks for the chuckle DJ.

  • Sam was at practice today and reported the following tidbits:
    -team held a scrimmage and the first team lined up in a 4-4-2 (Johnson; Segares,Robinson, Conde, Brown; Pappa, Husidic, Pause, Castillo; Ljungberg,McBride)
    -Pineda, Ristic, and Perrales all still in training
    -Nyarko trained on the side and he will not be ready for Wednesday
    -Segares will start at left back on Wednesday
    -Castillo probably won't start against NE
    -Thorrington could be back in the 18

  • In reply to cesba:

    Good news, for the first time in a while not a Mike Banner sighting on that list; keep it that way. Ristic,30,is a waste of time and his numbers are horrible. Might as well go with the two players for the youth academy.

  • In reply to longoria3:

    If Castillo does not start we may not be done with the Mike Banner era just yet.

  • In reply to cesba:

    Oh no, I spoke too soon. Castillo better get in shape quickly because I can't stomach the likes of Mike Banner and Brian McBride's 70 minutes of nothing. I had yet to hear Collins John on De Los Cobos calling him out based on his work ethic in practice.

  • In reply to longoria3:

    I think McBride will start Wednesday. He seems to be developing a pretty good dynamic with Ljungberg.

  • In reply to longoria3:

    Another article on Nery Castillo's travels

    http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/5461091/nery-castillo-reignite-career-chicago

  • In reply to longoria3:

    San Jose just signed geovanni from hull city. I'm pretty jealous. Don't understand why he would go there though. On the fire, I'd like to see them try a solid4-4-2. We haven't had very many scoring chances from the 4-5-1 that DLC has been trying to pound into place. A 4-4-2 will open up more space. Plus, mcbride and John are working well together.

  • In reply to fire1020:

    McBride and John haven't played together this season... The 4-5-1 is a good formation for us. We basically play a 4-4-1-1 now as it is. Castillo is perfect for the role in behind the striker. McBride is good at laying balls off to that player and he is the perfect guy to get it. Ljungberg is a good player to play along side Logan because it gives him more ability to go forward if needed. He can also ping the ball around from side to side. We need to see our lineup in its full capacity before we start calling for change.

  • In reply to fire1020:

    I'm heavily relying on Nery and Freddy to inject some life into this side. I can't go on watching games without any dynamic players. BTW, I think Ives Galarcep named Sean Johnson a favorite for the 2012 US Olympic team.

  • In reply to fire1020:

    Never mind, it was Match Fit USA. Here's the link.
    http://www.matchfitusa.com/2010/08/london-calling-2012-olympic-squad.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+MatchFitUsa+(Match+Fit+USA)

  • In reply to fire1020:

    Here's a link to Sam's mlssoccer Fire notes.

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/fire-report-castillo-may-start-against-new-england

    Mike Banner or Calen Carr may start if Castillo is not ready.

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