Fire 2 Revolution 1 - Game Recap and Player Ratings

The Fire earned a badly needed three points against a New England side that made things difficult after scoring the first goal of the match as a result of a giveaway by Wilman Conde.  Calen Carr marked his return to game action by celebrating the winning goal in the 85th minute. 

The Fire was cohesive and enjoyed impressive amounts of possesion in the first half despite coming out of the half tied at 1.  New England's Marco Perovic was the most dangerous player for the opposition, sending a dangerous 40 yard shot towards goal that was deflected away by Sean Johnson and picking Conde's pocket in 16th minute.  It was difficult to tell if the less than stellar field conditions played a role in Conde's gaffe but players were slipping regularly throughout the match and large chunks of grass and dirt remained on the surface for Toyota Park's ground crew to repair. 

The second half saw more possesion but not as many dangerous chances.  The Fire held New England in check defensively as well, allowing only one shot on goal in the second half.  The Revs battle and always provide a challenge but the Fire were better tonight and deserved the three points despite New England's protests for foul calls near the end of the match. 

Player Ratings

GK Sean Johnson (7) - Not called on to bail out the team this time but was still strong in goal.  A few nice saves and control of the area continue to cement his position as the #1 keeper.  Did bobble one bad hop in the first half but it was inconsequential.

D Dasan Robinson (6) - Defended well and supported the attack, particularly in the first half. 

D Wilman Conde (5) - Despite the horrific give away resulting in New England's goal he was still present defensively and started coming forward more late in the match trying to push the attack. 

D CJ Brown (6) - Perovic was dangerous but Stolica was fairly invisible.

D Gonzalo Segares (6) - Looks like he never left.  Solid as always and made a few runs in support that went unnoticed by Fire wingers.  Nyassi didn't get much done on his side. 

M Logan Pause (6) - Continues to play a solid role as the defensive midfielder.  Shalrie Joseph was seldom seen in the New England attack.

M Baggio Husidic (6) - Scored the Fire's first goal after some nifty passing in tight quarters by Ljungberg and McBride found Husidic alone in front of the Revs net.  Husidic seems to have a knack for being in the right place at the right time.

M Marco Pappa (5) - Another relatively quiet night for Pappa.  He missed seeing McBride in front of the net after a nice build up in the 54th minute.  A well placed cross would have resulted in an excellent opportunity for the open striker. 

M Nery Castillo (5) - Seems to still be a step off while he struggles to gain full fitness.  Started the match at left mid and was subbed out at half time.

M/F Freddie Ljungberg (7) - His energy and quality has revitalized the team on the field and in the locker room.  If Ljungberg continues this run of form with Nyarko returning and Castillo rounding into shape the Fire will be a team to contend with. 

F Brian McBride (6) - His chemistry with Ljungberg is evident.  Didn't get on the scoreboard but he did provide the ball that ended up at Husidic's feet for the first goal.  Subbed out in the 69th minute for Carr.

M Mike Banner (5) - Came on after the half for Castillo but still seems to miss opportunities despite his speed and hustle.  Shot weakly in the 63rd minute instead of passing to a streaking Segares for a chance in the area. 

F Calen Carr (7) - Carr came on for McBride and provided two quality scoring chances.  His 78th minute cross to Mike Banner just missed connecting.  Carr did very well to free himself and get off a shot that resulted in the match winner.  He may have been aided by New England defenders screening Matt Reis from a look at the ball until it was too late but he did get just enough on the strike to get it past the Revs netminder. 

D Kwame Watson-Siriboe (NR) - Came on in the 89th minute for Pappa. 

Fire Post Game

You can listen to Carlos De Los Cobos, Freddie Ljungberg, and Calen Carr answer questions after the match by clicking on the Fire Confidential podcast

Next Match

The Fire travel to Houston on Saturday night where an opportunity to pick up more ground presents itself against a struggling side. 

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  • Sega a 6? Pause a 6? Dasan a 6? 5's would be veeery generous, Sega was invisible, Dasan should have had a PK called, Pause followed up his all world game last week with a terd tonight. Good to get a win at least.

  • In reply to milicz:

    The non PK was a correct one. Perovic over sold minor contact in an attempt to get a cheap call. Nyassi was invisible on Segares' side.

  • In reply to cesba:

    the refs forum at bigsoccer agrees with you - refs judgement call on foul, definately no pk, player went down easy to draw penalty

  • In reply to cesba:

    Your last rating for the Fire - Revolution in June on our then LB, as a comparison - "D Kryzystof Krol (7) - Solid along with the rest of the back line absorbing pressure for the entire second half. Not much from Nyassi on his side."

  • In reply to milicz:

    That match also resulted in a clean sheet on the road.

  • In reply to milicz:

    Any time the USMNT is here it's a must go.

  • In reply to milicz:

    segares kept their winger pretty quiet most of the game. i thought he did quite well considering it was his 1st game back

    in my opinion, dasan did foul but the foul occurred outside the box, perovic just fell into the box. no way that shoulda been a pk, but i feel it was probly worth a free kick.

    kwame's poor defense and poor defensive structure were the real culprits in that situation anyway, IMO. i dunno what the fire defense were thinking even letting a play like that happen in the closing minutes.

    after that slip & goal, conde played pretty well. he was all over the field. i mean ALL OVER, esp in 2nd half. not sure whether he was looking for absolution on the goal, or whether he was following Ljungbergs example, but he was determined to get to the ball.

  • In reply to CountChocula:

    I agree on al points. Conde did step it up after the blunder.

  • In reply to CountChocula:

    Freddie was great, Sean turned in another professional performance, however, I think you over graded the defense. Admittedly, Conde played with more passion after causing the Fire to go down one. He stillhas not gained the level that he played at last year, and this must have been the third or fourth goal he has given up this year by misplaying the ball. Brown is a step to slow, Robinson had an up and down game, and Sega was caught out of position several times. However, it'll take one or two more games for him to gain top form.
    Good for Calen, at least he knew what to do with the ball, and will be a better fit than Banner, who actually didn't play too badly last hight.
    Don't think the Fire should be in a big hurry to get rid of Krol, could be good coming off the bench.
    The subbing of Watson-Biribore didn't make a lot of sense, nearly gave up a goal after several seconds entering the game, Kinney would have been a far better choice.
    Can't understand the thinking of De Los Moron, seems he is in love with players with poor game instincts (Banner, Watson-Biriboe, Dykstra etc.) And look at his ''must have'' players Martinez gone and Umanzor sitting on the bench. With his coaching wonder how far the Fire will go in the playoffs,
    although they have enough talent and will at least make it into the second round despite the coaching.
    Over-all, the Fire played at 60% of potential, the good news is they showed glimpses of a possession
    game and although they looked out of sync much of the time, it's a relatively short time they all played together and things should sort themselves out over time (Castillo getting game fit etc) and when Nyarko is back, they could be flying.

  • In reply to lonecoyote:

    I didn't see Segares caught out of position at all let alone several times. Which examples/plays do you have in mind?
    CJ is always going to look a step slow, he's not going to get any faster.
    Krol can play and they should make an attempt to keep him especially if he can play center back. Brown may retire and Conde's contract is up after this season.
    De Los Cobos acknowledged the mistake with Martinez and cut him. Umanzor is on the bench. That's a good sign of a coach who is flexible enough to recognize it and move on.

  • In reply to cesba:

    I rewatched the match last night after getting home, Sega had an average/below average game. He stopped Nyassi exactly once the entire match, got turned around a number of times and let crosses in, had some poor touches resulting in turnovers. No real big mistakes, but not a particularly strong showing next to Krol, who I think will end up playing against Houston, if anyone moves to CB I would expect it to be Sega since he has experience there.

  • In reply to milicz:

    You don't make any sense. How many times did Nyassi beat him last night? Zero. Krol should not be playing over Segares.

  • In reply to Rubberbandman189:

    I had been told from one of my colleagues who was watching the Fire game on My50, that Chris Dorn mentioned that Mike Banner was one of the best players on this team in 2010. Also he said "Mike Banner has done a very, very nice job for Chicago." "Great young player, very very strong on the flank and serves up a very, very nice ball." Huh!!! When he touches the ball, it is scary to watch (not a good way).

  • In reply to longoria3:

    I think I noticed a batch of red Kool Aid in the booth yesterday. ;)

  • In reply to longoria3:

    Updated player salaries for all teams.

    http://www.mlsplayers.org/files/august_12_2010_salary_information__by_club.pdf

    Fire totals updated with Castillo and Segares.

  • In reply to cesba:

    That's a good bit of business on the FO's part in Segares. 67k is a huge steal.

  • In reply to Rubberbandman189:

    No doubt. Where has Frank Flopas been?

  • In reply to cesba:

    Good question...

  • In reply to cesba:

    I missed that pic of him when he played for the Sting.

  • In reply to cesba:

    Looking at the various team salaries, it's obvious that Columbus and Real Salt Lake get the biggest bang for the buck, really no top flight standouts but well balanced rosters with very good players.

  • In reply to lonecoyote:

    Schelotto, what a steal.

  • In reply to lonecoyote:

    Nery makes more than Ljungberg, what a joke.

  • In reply to fire1020:

    give Nery some time. he hasnt played in over a year, right? and he is new to the MLS style of play. gonna take some time to adapt

    he may or may not pan out, but we really haven't seen him play yet

  • In reply to cesba:

    Sean Johnson 88K more than I thought. He was the steal of the 2010 MLS Draft. Schelotto took a huge paycut; he was making 700K couple years ago.

  • In reply to longoria3:

    I absolutely DID pay-off Mike Banner (with good reason) but I don't recall calling him "one of the best" in 2010.

  • In reply to ChrisDoran:

    I'll watch the game again Chris, I'm sick that way.

  • In reply to milicz:

    Segares didn't miss a beat. He did a nice job defending Nyassi and should be starting from here on out. Now, Krol has to wait his turn and Pause did a nice job and has stepped up his game.

  • In reply to cesba:

    It's great to see Carr able to contributeright away, and it was a good play by him. It's okay that the fire are trying to play pretty passing soccer, but at some they need to learn how to turn all their passing plays into scoring chances. Most of their possession is unthreattoning to the opponent. I don't think the defense did bad at all in this match( aside from Conde's slip and and robinson's poor passing.) Pappa needs to learn how to use his right foot, it's so frusterating when he cuts to his left every time he could cross it with his right. Pause had another great game. Castillo needs to get it together. Good win, now beet Houston.

  • In reply to fire1020:

    I need to take back everything bad I said about Calen Carr. He brought a lot of energy.. he commented afterword about learning from Freddy.. pressing all the time in the front.

    Maybe losing the hair was the trick.

    And Banner yet again is getting stripped and knocked to the ground without a fould being called. He gets no respect from the opponent or the officials.

  • In reply to Bumsteer:

    In the last couple minutes, Petrovic or whatever his name is, pushes down Banner with his forearm, knocks down another Fire with his butt, and runs them over and into Dasan. No Fouls, and the Ref was looking RIGHT AT IT.

  • In reply to fire1020:

    Looks like Jay Demerit is considering a move back to MLS. If the Fire got him...
    http://theshinguardian.com/2010/08/19/jay-demerit-audio-mls-an-option/

  • In reply to patrickhattrick:

    Maybe, CJ can't last forever.

  • In reply to patrickhattrick:

    I would IMMEDIATELY buy that shirt!

  • In reply to RedLine55:

    In my school the disciplinary system is when you break the rules, you get a "demerit" and if you get 3 "demerits you get a detention. That makes it an absolute must buy for me. Nothing would be awesomer than walking around school with a shirt that said Demerit on the back.

  • In reply to patrickhattrick:

    well in that case lets get this "Detention" player instead! :p

  • In reply to CountChocula:

    So, when he scores a hat trick its a detention. Patrickhattrick's got a detention!

  • In reply to patrickhattrick:

    so how do you guys know what the promotions for the game are gonna be? just show up? that kinda defeats the point of a "promotion" doesn't it? heh

  • In reply to CountChocula:

    They usually announce or advertise it a week or two before matches. This is something I will point out to the ticket staff.

  • In reply to CountChocula:

    its usually a week before the game on the website. but of course you have to go to the website for it.

  • In reply to fire1020:

    First of all. I agree with Joe on the defenders. The only problem is Brown's lack of speed. Overall, minus Conde's mishap we win 2-0. So not too much troubles there. I hate New England with a passion fyi.

    I had my doubts about Carr, but he stepped up and put the ball on net. Big goal for the team and big 3 points.

    Ljungberg is pure class, enough said. When Castillo gets fit and Nyarko healthy, we are going to be hard to defend. How in the world does Banner get a 5. If anything he should get a -2. his passing was off, he wasn't and hasn 't been in games for a long time minus LA. he should have anticipated Carr's cross at the far post for a goal. Sean Johnson always solid, he almost stuck perovic on the goal. Pause and baggip both played really well. Classy finish on the mini chip from Baggio. Pause again got stuck in and played very well.

    Side note- Are there tv timeouts in soccer now? for the love of God. If any player goes down, you get him off the field asap and resume play. Yesterday was embarassing. 10 min per injury, players coming off the field for a water break. Just an all out insane mess that isn't justified with the amount of stoppage time. This can't happen again. Meanwhile Nicol is talking to the 4th official for 20 minutes at a time while they both have some tea. Ridiculous! maybe next time they should both get a room.

    I yelled for Freddie's jersey after the game and he threw me his jersey. Only thing was he had switched post game and I had a sweaty Nyassi jersey in my hand haha! Freddie's the man!

  • In reply to jking:

    I yelled for Freddie's jersey after the game and he threw me his jersey. Only thing was he had switched post game and I had a sweaty Nyassi jersey in my hand haha! Freddie's the man!

    That's pretty funny.

  • In reply to cesba:

    I knew from the minute they signed Ljunberg that he was going to be a difference maker on this team with his speed , energy , and skill , he also is bringing an attitude to this team as he does not back down from everyone.

  • In reply to FireStingDoug:

    FireStingDoug, to be honest to tell you I did not want no part of Ljungberg due to his issues with Seattle and his complaining about the officials and the league itself. I was totally wrong about the guy, I hope he continues to succeed in Chicago and contribute to the team. Imagine Thorrington and Nyarko come back in full strength, it is going to be dangerous MLS club but it would make De Los Cobos job easier.

  • In reply to FireStingDoug:

    Plus he's a player with international credibility. The guy played for Arsenal, a step up from Club America (Blanco).

  • In reply to FireStingDoug:

    The Home Grown thing is great. I think It'll become a great provider for MLS in future years, and a helper of the MNT. England has had problems with the globalization of the EPL in recent times and their National team has suffered for it, because the talent is not developing. You don't need to develop talent when other countries are doing it for you, so clubs sign international players and an English player is left behind. Yanks won't have that problem.

  • In reply to cesba:

    91 comments,,,,never seen that on this blog.....awsome...what a great job you're doing....you can feel it in the air, things are turning around for the fire,,,exciting

  • In reply to bert:

    Thanks Bert.

    Hopefully the folks who run the Tribune and Chicago Now will take notice that Fire fans are just as passionate about their team as fans of other sports in Chicago and start at least inching toward more local Fire coverage.

  • In reply to cesba:

    GR, u should write the tribune about this. 96

  • In reply to fire1020:

    Colton,
    They know....this is a Tribune site.

  • In reply to cesba:

    Did not know that. Thanks

  • In reply to bert:

    everything starts with a winning team,,,it was great to see 14k at toyota park for a wednesday night

  • In reply to bert:

    That is sooo right. For all the Blackhawks hype, it had to start with a fun, succesful team.

  • In reply to bert:

    Let's continue to draw more than 14K since this team is on a hot streak and putting a winning product together. Any word on the newest member of the Fire from the youth academy squad (Victor Pineda)? Has he practice with the Fire?

  • In reply to longoria3:

    He's been practicing with the team for the last few weeks.

  • In reply to longoria3:

    A few days ago, some of you were talking about the possibility of the fire's squad being the best in mls history. Well I think that should go to the Columbus team of the last few years. They have a great starting 11, and are extremely deep on the bench. I'm jealous. They won the SS the last two years and are competing again this year against LA, while all but securing the eastern conference this early in the season. I hate to say it, but they're the team to beat.

  • In reply to fire1020:

    Best in history is a bit much. I'm working on a 2010 team by team comparison.

  • In reply to jking:

    I've added a new page to the web site. It's a desription of the criteria used for the player ratings. It's next to the Schedule and Results tab.

  • In reply to cesba:

    ever given a "1" rating? heh

  • In reply to CountChocula:

    that would take epic badness ;)

  • In reply to cesba:

    OK, own goal, foul for a penalty, maybe a missed penalty, red card, and injuring Landon Donovan before the World Cup. Gotta be a 1.

  • In reply to patrickhattrick:

    Injuring Donovan gets an automatic 11 rating

  • In reply to jking:

    Banner SHOULD have anticipated the cross, but it was also coming in at like 50mph near the far post.

  • In reply to cesba:

    The Fire looked great. Ljngberg looked good, Carr scored a nice goal, Baggio scored and played well. This fares well for the upcoming LA game.

  • In reply to milicz:

    What do you want from them? Segares played very well. He never got beat by his man and was involved in the match the entire time. Dasan made some very good tackles in match and got involved in the attack multiple times. Pause kept one of the best players in the league quiet the entire game in Joseph. If Conde doesn't slip we win 2-0 with Johnson having to make one real save.

  • In reply to Rubberbandman189:

    100% agree with Joe on this one.

  • In reply to Rubberbandman189:

    Steve Nicol will complain about anything.

  • In reply to Rubberbandman189:

    thing is, the fire came out and played positive soccer, and were rewarded for it. revs tried to play thuggish negative soccer and were justly penalized

    btw - anyone see the castillo yellow card? from the poor feed i was getting, i could not really tell what happened on the play. was it just a accidental bump in the head (kinda like pause? took late in the game where the guys off hand came back & smacked him)
    or did nery really go after the guy for laying on him too much?

  • In reply to CountChocula:

    They were going at it all night. If Castillo would have stayed on the whole match, one of them would have bee sent off.

  • In reply to CountChocula:

    can someone tell me is there a place on the web where the Fire list what their promotions for upcoming games are?

    i am going to the LA Galaxy game next month, just wondering if they have any neat giveaways or anything?

  • In reply to CountChocula:

    That's a good point. They really should have that listed somewhere on their site but they don't.

  • In reply to CountChocula:

    I think I heard on the broadcast somehow that the first 5000 people get a Fire scarf. Can't remember the sponsor. I'm bringing a group with a bunch of kids. We're tailgating but the kids are going to want to do the moon jump. I hope the scarves are being distributed before you get into the stadium proper.

  • In reply to oliotya:

    I think it was American Airlines.

  • In reply to CountChocula:

    I hate that. I used to always check before every game and I famously won an xbox in dramatic fashion. (you've all heard the story before.)

  • In reply to CountChocula:

    YES! The Yanks are back in Chicago! That's a game I gotta try and go to. Here's info: http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2010/08/usa-to-face-poland-in-chicago-on-october-9th.html
    http://www.ussoccer.com/News/Mens-National-Team/2010/08/US-MNT-Set-to-Face-Poland-on-Oct-9-at-Chicagos-Soldier-Field.aspx
    Hope I get to go. Unfortunately I've never seen them play before so It may be my big chance. Also, It looks like it'll be the top guys, because all of the MLS teams except LA are playing the day before or after, but its an international fixture date so most of the European guys get to go out.

  • In reply to Rubberbandman189:

    You can also paste part of the blame of that goal on CJ. That was a tough pass into Conde with an enemy shirt right there.

  • In reply to milicz:

    Good non-call on the alleged PK, the player was minimally bumped, and he went down on his own.
    New England doesn't have too much to complain about, they probably ended up with one or two less fouls/yellows than they should have, one of the more decently ref'd games in a long while.

  • In reply to milicz:

    Which game did you see? I was watching with New England commentators, and even they thought Sega dominated other than two exchanges. Pause had a quite but productive game. Dasan had decent passing, but his clumsiness is starting to show. Something wrong with his hips?

  • Ljunberg easily my man of the match. I don't know how many times he managed to hold onto the ball while being challenged by two defenders. He had one moment of brilliant passing with McBride in the 53' or so that really should have resulted in a goal if not for Pappa's slop.

  • I'd give Ljunburg an 8. He was amazing! Marco never created anything but his first touch was very good. I think we're seeing glimpses of what CLDC is trying to do with the team. I wish they would have done some of that possession ball after the goal. I was nervous but confident with Sean minding the net.

  • In reply to oliotya:

    Ljungberg was fantastic. His first touches are pure class and he provides some of the "bite" that was missing.

  • In reply to cesba:

    Ljungberg is Blanco with speed. I love it.

  • In reply to waamsy:

    That thought crossed my mind too.

  • In reply to oliotya:

    Not surprisingly, Steve Nicol and the Revolution are not happy with the amount of fouls called on New England. Maybe they should consider that their game plan and style of play dictates physicality and fouling to slow down faster sides. Can't have it both ways.....

    http://www.boston.com/sports/soccer/articles/2010/08/19/calls_added_up_to_wrong_numbers/

  • In reply to cesba:

    Whining crybaby. This is the same coach who sent thugs with no technical skills like Joey Franchino and Rusty Pierce out there. Indeed, he can't have it both ways.

  • In reply to oliotya:

    Ljungberg is also taking the leadership on a team that sorely needed an offensive leader. i know mcbride is captain, but he doesn't have the wheels like freddie to lead by example.

    i loved how the Fire were much more offensive minded the whole game. only disappointment was how much effort was expended for a lot of half-chances but few shots. really need to take some long shots once in a while & make the opposing keeper sweat a little.

  • In reply to oliotya:

    So.....Reis says he slipped on the soft ground.

    http://www.boston.com/sports/soccer/articles/2010/08/19/revolution_burned_by_penalties/

  • DJ,
    A player signed out of a team's academy is no longer eligible for the MLS draft. He is a 17 year old product of Plainfield East High School.
    Pineda is a midfielder who is eligible to be selected for MLS game action now. Homegrown signings do not count against the salary cap and MLS has granted each team two additional roster spots for two homegrown signings.

  • In reply to cesba:

    He's a "Product of the Chicago FIRE Academy," not the high school. Yes, he played for the high school, but he didn't get signed to the first team by virtue of his career there.

  • In reply to ChrisDoran:

    True, but he did play at that high school and I'm sure they will claim him as a product of the soccer program. I probably should have mentioned that he has come up through the academy teams.

  • In reply to ChrisDoran:

    Revolution still whining

    http://www.boston.com/sports/soccer/articles/2010/08/20/a_bad_trip_for_revolution/

  • In reply to cesba:

    i found the comment on perovic claiming the revs played the better game kinda funny. even many revs fans admitted their team was the poorer team that day and a draw woulda been a good result for them.

    the comment on pressuring the chicago back four was quite telling. this has been going on for quite some time now, and is definately something that all the MLS coaches have figured out by now. also probly one reason Ward was expendable, as he was one of the players who really played poorly under pressure

  • In reply to CountChocula:

    I found that comment humorous myself. He was right on though about pressure the back line. Segares should help immensely with this.

  • In reply to cesba:

    Time to get Freddie's photo up in place of Blanco.

  • In reply to oliotya:

    I'm hoping to get that banner changed very soon.

  • In reply to oliotya:

    with San Jose and Colorado having tough games this weekend, and Toronto playing NYRB, getting a big win in houston will go a long way toward the Fire being right in the midst of the playoff hunt.

    if we can get 3 pts from the 2 game road trip i'd be happy. anything better, like win-draw or win-win would be outstanding.

  • In reply to oliotya:

    getting close to 100 comments, congrats on the success of this blog guillermo!

  • In reply to Drew:

    Thanks Drew......and I'm not responding just to be #88 ;)

  • In reply to ChrisDoran:

    Some interesting thoughts from Kyle McCarthy on how the Fire will use Castillo.

    http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/1110/major-league-soccer/2010/08/20/2079281/friday-mls-forecast-week-21

  • In reply to ChrisDoran:

    Ljungberg on Comcast Sportsnet's Chicago Tribune Live yesterday.

    http://www.csnchicago.com/08/19/10/Ljungberg-excited-after-Fire-drop-Revolu/landing_fire.html?blockID=294009&feedID=5674

  • In reply to cesba:

    great to see CTL cover the Fire!

  • In reply to Drew:

    Yes....exactly how much Bears pre-season football can one stand?

  • In reply to cesba:

    Bears pre-season football coverage is a bore.

  • In reply to Drew:

    At least CTL is acknowledging the Fire. It is progress and the media should be aware that the fans are passionate for their team and they are a professional soccer team in Chicago.

  • I can't speak for Janjo but I'm assuming the protein shakes are safe for all ages.

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