A Week Until School Starts!

A Week Until School Starts!

School's a week away - what's new or different so far?  Meantime, Karen Lewis continues her coy media tour (media laps it up), Sun-Times digs back into the school closings report nobody paid much attention to (and weak charter school oversight, too). Elsewhere, NYC gears up for its first year of universal preschool, and the NYT reviews a new book about teachers.

Back to School Sept 2014 CPS Obsessed: FINALLY, the OAE site is directly linked from CPS.  Finding everything else may take a little more time.  Find a School, which I use a lot is one extra click away now.  Other CPS news – free lunch for everdiyone.

Lewis talks about Emanuel but avoids his name Chicago Tribune: Parents of schoolchildren need to shoulder more of the financial burden of funding the Chicago Public Schools. After all, homeowners who use.

Super PAC, Seven-Figure Donations Could Bolster A Karen Lewis Mayoral Run Chicagoist: Karen Lewis must be privately enjoying the way local media are hanging on her every move these days, as she continues to play coy with thoughts on a mayoral run.

Can Karen Lewis guard the henhouse? Chicago Sun-Times: Karen Lewis, president of the Chicago Teachers Union, is clearly preparing to run for mayor of Chicago — filing the necessary forms with the State Board of Elections, circulating petitions to get on the ballot and meeting with community groups.

Kids pay the price for weak oversight of charter schools Chicago Sun-Times: Unlike traditional schools, charters do not have to report publicly, or to their authorizer (the Chicago Public Schools) the names of their vendors or how...

Rauner takes ALS ice bucket plunge; prods Madigan, Karen Lewis Chicago Sun-Times: Republican gubernatorial candidate Bruce Rauner posted on Facebook that he underwent the ALS ice bucket challenge. In the video, Rauner gets swamped by three different buckets.

The hidden lessons from closing 50 schools Chicago Sun-Times: ... hard-hitting task force study — released in June by key members of the state's General Assembly — on last year's controversial, contentious and traumatic closing of 50 Chicago public schools, mostly in minority communities on the South and West Sides.

Kennedy-King College Now Offers Hospitality Management Degrees DNA Info: According to Roxanne Brown, a spokeswoman for Kennedy-King College, the name reflects the school's new emphasis on providing skills to help grads take advantage of one of the highest growth industries.

Jackie Robinson West: America's Team Tribune (editorial): Minutes after the double play that ended the run of an undefeated Las Vegas team on Saturday, a chant went up from the crowd at Lamade Stadium in Williamsport, Pa.

OTHER CITIES

D.C. Area Schools Braced For Influx Of Unaccompanied Minors WAMU: Schools across the D.C. area are returning to the classroom this week, and hundreds of unaccompanied minors will be counted among their ranks, bringing their own unique challenges to school systems.

‘The Teacher Wars,’ Dana Goldstein’s History of Education NYTL The journalist Dana Goldstein’s “The Teacher Wars” serves up historical commentary instead of a searing philippic on one of the day’s hot-button issues: the role of teaching in America.

LA schools iPad project: How it started ... before the bidding began KPCC: Superintendent John Deasy was a year into his tenure at the Los Angeles Unified School District when he started talking to the largest publishing company in the world, Pearson PLC, about working together on a digital transformation in public education.

On Turning Around a Troubled School: "Make Kids Feel Special" WNYC: A middle school principal explains how he turned around one of the most violent schools in New York City by establishing order and making his students feel special.

As city seeks out new pre-K teachers, a training challenge grows ChalkbeatNY: Emma Markarian, now a pre-kindergarten teacher in the city, was surprised to find herself leading an abbreviated course on child development in June to aspiring pre-K teachers who hoped to lead their own classrooms this fall — with only three months of training under their belts.

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  • ICYMI: CPS students scramble for new school after Concept charter opening delayed http://ow.ly/AGFBO @WBEZeducation @beckyleah15

  • Later school start times this year, anyone? Pediatricians' Rx for schools: Later start times - Yahoo News http://ow.ly/AHA3J

  • Alex, the non-real teachers are already back in school. It's the CTU, with their 60 years of union success, who are in their last week of glorious freedom apart from students.

  • DonRahm give it up. We were in school in June when the other systems were finished. We tried to start school before Labor Day and the student attendance was abysmal so we listened to our parents who wanted school to start for their children after Labor Day. We start at 7:45 and finish at 2:45. When we started at 7:30 and finished at 1:30 we had schools with high scores and schools with low scores. Now we are going an hour longer and we still have schools with high scores and low scores. Maybe CPS should have used the data to determine why those school were successful before putting everyone on a longer day-many parents did not want a longer day due to traveling, after school activities and lack of certified monitoring of students at recess and lunch.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    I am not sure who you are talking to, but overwhelmingly parents are glad the day is now a normal length instead of the pathetic 5 3/4 hour day. Every teacher I have talked to likes it better too because they are not as rushed and the schools were forced to schedule better. It is outrageous that you think the day should be shortened again. Are you freakin kidding me! Karen Lewis is a complete disaster.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    I don't know who YOU are speaking with. As a teacher and someone who really listens to teachers, the day is toooooooo long and difficult for the students to remain focused. We have excessive mandates, so we are overwhelmed trying to teach between the latest goofy test sessions. Parents are pleased... A few. Many parents would like to see their children before dark. Troll

  • In reply to itzhak:

    OMG, you must be Karen Lewis posing as a troll. Shorten the day? That would be the most pathetic move and a complete injustice to the children. Getting out at 3 or 3:30 is evening? Even 4pm? Give me a freaking break!

  • In reply to district299reader:

    Did you know that the few schools in CPS that had a longer day already are some of the best schools in the system? They also knew recess is good for kids. Yep, it took a huge push by Rahm to make the change. Daley couldn't do it, Valas couldn't, Arne couldn't and they tried. Heck, parents who tried couldn't do it either. Who would think that moving a lunch to the middle of the day to give kids recess would meet such resistance from teachers and the CTU. If it was up to CTU, the day would be short with no recess. Pathetic leadership from Karen Lewis if you are looking from a student perspective. From a teacher perspective she is great because she took them into a strike. Its all for the kids!

  • In reply to district299reader:

    You need to get your facts straight. Our mayor wanted a longer day with a longer school year but no additional pay to the teachers who were to put in the longer day and longer school year. And don’t start with they have the summers off because they don’t. The summer is when they go to those unfunded, mandated, professional developments that are needed to use the latest ‘theory’ in the classroom.

    So your boss says ‘I’m adding more hours to your work day, but you are NOT getting any additional pay to compensate you for those additional hours.’ Most of you would probably walk away saying ‘No thanks’. Of course this is in addition to the your work on curriculum writing - each grade level writes their own 10 week ‘unit’ for each semester for each subject (ELA, Math, Science, etc.) with no additional pay.
    Recess? As long as their is money to have adults supervise the students, absolutely no one was against it. But recess is another unfunded mandate. No one was against it. They were against the non-funding of the mandate with no guidance or model of what this was to even look like at a student’s point of view.

  • In reply to ladyfair:

    Ladyfair, professionals get mandates all the time too. Working longer with no more pay is EXACTLY what professionals do all the time. It is a salary position, not hourly. If a big case is coming up, an attorney will work around the clock. All their salaried support staff work around the clock too. Consultants work themselves to death and if you averaged out their hours vs. how much they are paid, their salary may be large, but they work and travel year round and skip vacations. Doctors pull crazy hours. Managers of restaurants will work insane hours when opening and expanding locations. During the economic collapse when teachers were getting their 4% annual raise, not only more hours for the rest of us, but literally being told to do two jobs when a co-worker was laid off. All for no extra pay. Yes, professionals can quit, change jobs and even change professions. So can teachers.

    Maybe the answer is to not have teachers work on salary and instead instill an hourly wage? It certainly seems that teachers and CTU are more hourly wage mind set and really do not understand the concept of annual salary.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    Dear d299d,
    For once we are in total agreement.pay teachers an hourly wage.
    How about just a little more than an electrician say $50.00 an hour.
    We already punch a clock,but it is called a kronos machine so that
    is nothing new.I believe electricians do a four year apprenticeship
    for which they are paid less,then after becoming a journeyman
    they get paid scale. Unpaid apprenticeship for a teacher is actually working on a college degree so once In a teaching position pay them scale.That would be great for young teachers no lane or step just the same pay as a vet.In every trade foremen are paid scale plus so department heads,head teachers ect should get extra.Also this way
    we could get paid for EVERY EXTRA EVENT we participate in.
    Instead of crowd control pay of $25.00 per event we would get scale perhaps $100.00 for say a football game. hell teachers would never
    leave school. Good idea.

  • In reply to rbusch:

    Maybe hourly is the route to take. Of course, accountability measures would also need to be in place to measure the outcomes of hours put in. Just like inspections for electricians and guidelines on how to ensure a job is done correctly. Either the light bulb goes on or it doesn't! (pun intended) Maybe it does need to be simplified payment process rather than complicating things and arguing in circles about being a professional and working salary, yet arguing about hourly gripes. It is an interesting concept.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    I think teachers who are highly concerned about dollars per hours shouldn't be in urban ed. Those who want to be salaried professionals with a full time job working with high need children are the ones that are most valuable to the district.

    Most ambitious 22 year olds aren't attracted by three months vacation. The years of teacher union dominance in Chicago has created a process that had brought in too many people with personal goals that conflict with the needs of most CPS students.

    Individual schools with too broad of a mission create conditions where adequate instruction is a very difficult job for adults. A system with a school structure that can't realistically provide enough instruction suits too many CTU members.

    Those CTU members who want high paid hourly jobs should have been plumbers. Nothing wrong with being a plumber.

  • In reply to Donn:

    There is plenty wrong when a plumber just out of
    apprenticeship makes more than a ten year teacher.
    personally i did not take a vow of poverty when i became a teacher.
    But for some unknown reason some people think teachers should work for peanuts.But you are also correct .There is an urban myth that the CTU has power,in fact and especially since SB7 a few years ago, the CTU is powerless to make any useful changes in Urban education.
    You are also correct in that plumbers decide who they let into the trade.Thus keeping a balance of supply and demand.Finally any
    real craft union has an almost iron clad system of seniority, no
    25 year plumber will ever lose his job to a brand new plumber.
    The CTU contracts past and present never had any seniority protection spelled , that to is an urban myth

  • In reply to Donn:

    Donn- Why do you assume teachers sit around and do nothing all day? Have you ever tried to control a group of 30 children for an entire school day? That is much more difficult than many so-called professional jobs which have much more down time.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    This will never be adapted in Chicago here is a real example of why:
    Young teacher in her first year at a large suburban school district
    She was paid $20.00 per hour.or $600 for a 30 hour week,then
    came Friday.:
    Base pay $20x6 hours= $120.00

    Covered a class during her lunch $20 x I hour = $ 20.00
    Coached track after school $20 x 2 hours $ 40.00
    Ran the clock for a wrestling meet $20 x 2hours $ 40.00
    Crow control for a sock hop $ 20x 2hours $ 40.00
    Total extra pay $ !40.00
    She did all that because no veteran teacher wanted too

  • In reply to rbusch:

    Extra pay does happen in Chicago. Noble has extra pay for extra jobs, including smaller ones.

    When you have PE teachers with six figure salaries that do the minimum there is no money remaining to pay $20 to run the clock. The CTU is the one who has insisted on a pay system based on seniority rather than merit and value to the school.

    Most teachers should prefer suburban or easier schools with more money. Follow the Karen Lewis example if your goal is a house in Hawaii.

  • In reply to rbusch:

    Keep posting, Bob. Love your postings and appreciate the fact that you actually taught in CPS. Some of these posters are ridiculous. I think they should all sign up to sub in CPS since they seem to think teaching is so easy. Sub pay is 20.00 an hour and there is a severe shortage in a bad economy. I'd like to time them running out the door.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    How much money does Noble collect from fines from students for disciplinary infractions? Of course, they have lots of extra money-hope the taxpayers are keeping track of where these monies go!
    wasn't the head of UNO charter schools making more than Karen Lewis? At least Karen's salary comes from our dues-Juan Rangel and etc comes from our tax dollars-no oversight at all.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    Noble doesn't collect fines anymore. Yet the teacher supply room still contains actual supplies. Where does all the CPS money go?

    I don't know much about Uno, but Rangel did manage a large organization. I think it's right that a superintendents job gets a superintendents salary. The primary problem with charters seems to be when non-educators become senior leaders. It seems to me, considering the vast number of educators with leadership experience, that charters should be run by only former principals.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    http://dianeravitch.net/2014/08/28/beware-the-charter-attrition-game/

    The numbers game in charterlannd.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    Dear Don

    Since when are noble teachers part of the CTU?
    I now realize you are a complete troll who knows
    nothing about what goes on inside a school.if you
    did you would realize just what keeping the clock
    at a wrestling meet means.
    the clock ,or time keeper, watches two separate clocks
    one keeps the time of the rounds, the other what is called.
    Since I spent over 40 years in south side high schools a house
    in another state might be ok.
    riding time.Both are critical to the match and can determine the
    outcome.the referee signals each.it is not watching the clock.
    My point is that perhaps teachers would make more if we were paid per hour

  • In reply to rbusch:

    My point is that it's possible to run schools where teachers who do more get paid more. Automatic pay raises for seniority leaves little money for anything but high salaries for older worker and pensions.

    I wouldn't want to run a school where I don't have the budget to pay people who do extra.

  • In reply to ladyfair:

    @ladyfair. I have no sympathy for you. You had a shorter day for many years and you got paid for the longer day. You got to take your lunch at the end of the day and still got paid for it. Once you payback that time, then you can ask for more money. Maybe you need to get your facts straight.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    dear Don

    I personally resent the allegation that older workers and their pensions are the reason schools are broke,in fact schools are not broke,CPS is flush with money. Look at the loop ,where is all that tax money going.?
    If I had to return to teaching no FNG or TFA kid could keep up with me for even one day because i know what i am doing and they don't
    Reality begins when the classroom door is shut.

  • In reply to rbusch:

    One of my youngest children is just starting TFA. Lets have a contest! (This is for real starting TFA, as opposed to Alex's fantasy TFA)

  • In reply to Donn:

    I feel sorry for your kid,tell him ,or her, to run right now.
    If you have any regard for your child stop them .
    Let us know how they change by Christmas or however long they last.

  • In reply to rbusch:

    Nah. She has already finished teaching summer school in one of the poorest areas in her district and she loved it. Her permanent job is at a well regarded traditional school with students that are about at the CPS average. Being in a traditional school she doesn't have the instructional hours like her roommates who are teaching at Kipp-like charters. She has time to figure out what she is doing. She will do great.

    She was complaining by the end of the first week about the parents. By the end of the second week she was complaining about the observers constantly coming in and out of the classroom, and that she wanted to be left alone to teach. Sounds about right for a teacher.

    None of my children or other relatives had problems as new teachers in urban classrooms. My children volunteered in SPED programs as younger children, and had paid SPED jobs when they got older. Getting bitten and pushed by SPED clients while still maintaining control and empathy is apparently a great way to prepare a child to later become an urban teacher.

  • In reply to rbusch:

    Donn- There are numerous problems with your story. The profile that you've built up over the years regarding your "family" is obviously phony. Each time it perfectly, seamlessly supports your pro-charter, pro-reform opinions.

    1) TFA do not teach summer school. Summer school is used as their "student teaching." A real teacher is present in the room with them.

    2) Parental involvement is minimal during the first week of school with the exception of the little ones- pre-K, Kindergarten, and 1st grade. I've never heard of summer school for Kindergarteners. Which grade does she allegedly teach, and where are these exhausting parents who she has already been able to identify as a "problem."

    3) Every new teacher has problems. Any teacher who has taught in an "urban" classroom has had even more problems. Again, what is the Donn family's "secret sauce" that makes "urban" teaching such a breeze for them.

    4) I have never, ever heard a real teacher say they "love" summer school. Again, maybe in your Hollywood fantasy land it exists, but the hot weather, generally unmotivated students who must take summer school, long class hours coupled with the short duration, and the pressure to pass students who attend summer school in order to boost FOT and graduation rates.

    5) If your child was getting pushed and bitten than they were not in control. But they sound downright saintly for not even getting upset about being bitten. Perfect.

    Finally, you comment "sounds about right for a teacher" makes me think well, you made the entire thing up. Look Donn, your family stories have always been too "perfect". Nobody believes your poppycock.

    Sounds about right for a teacher.

  • In reply to rbusch:

    Donn- Your story is bogus. You said your daughter was upset during the first week with parents because of Ramadan. Ramadan started in late June this year and ended in late July this year. This would have been well after the first week of summer school and well before the first week of the 2014-2015 school year.

    Furthermore, I've never heard of "grad school reps" and mass observations in summer school.

    Can you explain your story because it doesn't add up, I've long suspected your "perfect" posts to be bogus because they fly in the face of everything I know about education. Now it looks like your fibs have caught up to you.

  • In reply to Donn:

    I have a question for you. Did your child major in education? I'm assuming that is not the case. If not, why are they interested in teaching at this point in their life? I think there is a huge difference in a person who knows they want to be a teacher and takes the coursework to that end, and a person who pursues another degree and then decides that they may want to try teaching because they want to pad out a future resume or can't get a job in their field. Good luck to your child, but I really wonder what their motivation is at this time as well as their long term commitment to education at this time.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    22 year olds have no real idea what they will want to be doing as 32 year olds.

    If you decided at age 17 that education was going to be your career, that was luck, not personal insight.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    I'm sure the average TFA is a lovely, good person; however, most parents do not want someone who is playing around with career options teaching their children.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    Didn't a recent report show that TFA teachers in Chicago stay in education at a 70% rate? What's the rate for B.Ed hires? It's not 70%.

    The number of Chicago area principals who are former TFA is shockingly high. You just don't want the competition from my 22 year old daughter with multiple degrees from a prestigious university and a 34 ACT.

    Whatever the path, a significant number of new hires aren't suitable for Urban Ed. There's no evidence that TFA produces fewer good career teachers. There's ample evidence that TFA produces far more leaders than the traditional B. Ed. path.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2013/09/i-quit-teach-for-america/279724/2/

    This is a great article and the very honest author tells why TFA is not good for the students. Yes, the college graduates get regular teacher salary even though they are not certified and at the end of the two year experiment receive a master's degree. It is the students who get less than they should.....please read this article.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    Donn, ugh... c'mon- "You just don't want the competition from my 22 year old daughter with multiple degrees from a prestigious university and a 34 ACT"- give it a rest. You can't build up this perfect model TFA reform character and not identify them. Next thing you're going to say she holds down a second job at Fermi as a nuclear physicist, is a polyglot, and only sleeps 4 hours a day. Your phoney-baloney story is too perfect.

    By the way, I'm not sure if there truly is a "shockingly high" number of TFA principals in Chicago, but if there is indicates a problem- there are therefore too many young and inexperienced principals in Chicago. If this is true it also points to the issue of the various CPS principal training/indoctrination programs. If the education deformers control CPS to a great degree, of course they would perpetuate others who are like them. The current crop of young CPS principals is pretty dismal. Your "daughter" sounds like she would fit right in.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    Dear 299r and Don

    i am sorry i wrote anything about this.I was only being honest
    about the state of our profession.When it comes to TFA my
    opinion is the same everyone has to start someplace.More
    important is that you have it or you don't I sincerely hope your
    daughter does well,but she will change I promise you that.
    TFA teachers where i taught did receive preferential treatment.
    One guy right out of a prestigious college who liked to brag
    about his 32 act score taught 2 IB classes and 2AP classes
    his first year.If we had a real union he would have never been allowed
    anywhere near that kind of scheduled until he earned it.He was cool and everyone got an A or B but they didn't learn shit.Year two he got
    an average schedule and quit by new years.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    1)Yes, a teacher is hired to sit in the classroom, usually from the school who's students are in the class. Unless a fight breaks out they don't intervene. My true, but joking, comment about her wanting to be left alone concerned the large number of people moving in and out of the room. It's not just the hired teacher in the room, it's also TFA people, and even a grad school rep.

    2) Her complaint about parents concerned them keeping students out late at night during Ramadan.

    3) Of course new teachers have problems. Regular school starts in a week and she's concerned she doesn't know what she's doing. Another true fact is that the summer school offered her a job, even though they knew she had one.

    4) The first words out of her mouth were "I love it". Perhaps not being bitten was a win. But all the students passed their test and were promoted.

    5) Reading comprehension, Bob. I was referencing SPED summer camp. Work SPED summer camp long enough and a young person will experience a variety of assaults. I didn't include spitting, and for girl counselors, groping. Camp is also a lot of fun.

    Remember Bob that a teacher competition needs to be waited by salary to be fair. Can you show more than twice the student growth than a TFAer?

  • In reply to district299reader:

    1)There is a reason for the scrutiny. Newbies with little training are typically not very good. Confident teachers have no problem with scrutiny.

    2) She needs to learn respect and sensitivity for other cultures. A 34 ACT and a degree from a prestigious means nothing if you don't try to understand others. Having said that, my Muslim students never stayed up all night during Ramadan except for Eid possibly. They can eat and drink after sundown.

    3) She is right about one thing: she doesn't know what shes doing.

    4) "Passed their test"...their summer school final exam?

    5) I have worked with individuals with moderate to severe cognitive disabilities for years. I've never heard of the mass biting, spitting, punching, and groping occurring at a "SPED summer camp". Sounds like it was poorly run.

    "Can you show more than twice the student growth than a TFAer?" No, education is more than a test score. He can show 10 times more classroom control, 20 times more understanding, 30 times more differentiation, and 40 times more dedication than your average Teach For Awhile tourist/resume builder.

  • In reply to ladyfair:

    @ladyfair------the solution is to fix the pension mess. Plenty of money to fund schools if pensions are fixed. The answer to the issues you describe (if they are issues) is to fix the pension problem. Something needs to be done. I prefer it is done without screwing the older workers close to retirement. Regardless of the solution, everyone will have to give up something.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    Donn
    Get real.I don't want to pick on your kid
    so I will not .But I know teachers who love to have
    the TFA in summer school.They run so many
    through his room every summer it is a joke.
    A real teacher has to student teach for at least
    an entire semester 16 weeks three classes a day.
    not any joke of a Boot Camp.
    Since when is the Board of Ed fair?
    How do you think the teacher who prepped all summer
    felt when he found out Aug.15th that an TFA
    NFG got the two AP classes he was assigned in June?
    A real union with iron clad seniority written in the contract
    would have stopped that travesty in its tracks.
    When a pampered TFA doubles student growth
    let me know. I felt good when i got the kids to grow
    out of scratching their with the lunchroom forks.
    Just when i thought i won they switched to plastic.

  • In reply to rbusch:

    I think your knowledge of what TFA summer school looks like is dated. In the two states I'm familiar with, the teacher hired to observe/supervise does not normally teach. I'm not sure what happens if the class is a disaster.

    You can't seriously tell me that new ed school grads are all that well prepared for the urban classroom.

  • In reply to Donn:

    ...but wait a sec Donn, you said "None of my children or other relatives had problems as new teachers in urban classrooms", so which is it? Urban education is problem-free or very difficult. Maybe the mythical "Donn Family" is the exception?

  • In reply to Donn:

    Donn
    what in hell are you talking about?
    The last time a friend of mine taught summer school was
    2013, last summer.He had at least 4 tfa student teachers
    TFA sent the student teachers, in fact the Boot Camp
    was at that school.
    New ed school teachers do a semester of student teaching.
    Many are observing in schools for three years before that.
    No TFA I ever met had any idea what they were getting into.
    Some of them were cocky,arrogant,and quite frankly had
    an attitude towards veteran teachers that seemed to be
    an acquired opinion.That is until the first soft week was over.
    As far as urban education is concerned at least we had to
    take a college level course in first aid.

  • In reply to rbusch:

    rbusch- Donn is telling a fairy tale, and doing a pretty poor job of it.

  • Which schools were on the longer day pilot and show the data.

    How do you explain that during the six hour day there were schools with high scores? Now we have a seven hour day and have those schools that had low scores demonstrated improvement?

    The parents at my school think the extra hour affects their children's sports schedules. They are on teams at various Catholic Schools and the Catholic Schools have a shorter day (most be those rotten teachers) so practice time is an issue.

    I don't have a problem with recess but as a parent I am concerned about who is watching the children.A security guard or janitor should not be in charge of supervising children. It seems to me that there are a lot of accidents.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    Lincoln, Edison, Bell, Norwood and a handful of others never short-changed the kids and have had a longer day. Now they extended to the 7 hour with essentially no problem and remain some of the best in the system. I have yet to meet a parent who wants to revert to the pathetic short day. Maybe your school is in an area that is different? Are you on the South Side? Beverly?

    IMO, recess is needed and the answer is not to short change the students. The answer is for the school to figure out how to do it. Most schools have figured it out and are not imposing on the teachers. Why on earth would you be against a security guard supervising recess? They can stop an intruder at the door and save lives, but they can't watch kids play freely? What has our society become?

  • In reply to district299reader:

    How many of African American students do they have?

  • In reply to district299reader:

    Burning off some energy during recess is important for all students regardless of race.

  • Stop posting inaccurate information.....
    http://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en/depts/mayor/press_room/press_releases/2011/october_2011/mayor_emanuel_charteroperatorsannouncelongerschooldayforcharters.html
    The schools you listed are not on the list.
    I am against a security guard supervising recess because it is against Ill School Code and how can he/she be in a classroom and monitor the doors/cameras? I noticed you completely side stepped the janitor
    supervising the children.....you are so clueless as to how a school runs. I guess if one disagrees with you it has to be a south side/Beverly parent-intersting perspective.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    Relax sparky! The schools I listed always had recess. That is the point to your question about knowing whether or not a longer day will improve student outcomes. These schools are among the best in the system. You are looking at it from after the decision, when your original question was questioning how the decision was made. You certainly are looking for a fight................must be south side Irish LOL! The reason I asked Beverly is because the catholic programs are very popular there. Also a strong catholic presence on the NW side, but that is less for sports programs and more for HS. So, Beverly seemed like a logical guess.

    Not sidestepping the janitor. Sure put them to work. I think helicopter parenting has gotten out of hand. Recess is working just fine at most schools and if not, then the administration needs to figure things out. I think recess programs and monitors can cost or about 20K or less.

  • Don,
    In answer to: Where does all the CPS money go?
    To charter schools.

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