Negative Reactions To New Schedules

Here online and in the media, reactions to the proposed new schedules have run mostly negative (or at least concerned).  Check out the previous post and these newish news items and let us know what you think.  Are the new schedules a bad idea, or is this just the usual complaining we've come to know and love? Also, did CPS do its prep work to let the Italians and the Poles know what was coming down the pike? Sure doesn't seem like it.

Italians, Poles fight CPS plan to end Columbus, Pulaski holidays Sun Times: Polish and Italian civic leaders say the proposed change in the Chicago Public Schools calendar to end the Columbus Day and Pulaski Day holidays is “a slap in the face.” And starting Monday they plan to fight back with an old-school ethnic lobbying push aimed to get Mayor Rahm Emanuel to change his mind.

CPS adds 10 school days, cuts time for picking up report cards Sun Times: There will be 10 more school days for kids next year under a 180-day calendar proposed Friday for the 2012-13 school year. The calendar axes the Pulaski and Columbus day holidays, and adds a day to the end of the year, among other changes.

State overrides local school board, orders charter school opened in North Chicago WBEZ:  Illinois’s top school official has overruled the local school board in suburban North Chicago and ordered a charter school be opened there.

Schools that have filed security plans  TribuneL These schools have filed campus emergency operations and violence prevention plans with the Illinois Board of Higher Education or the Illinois Community College Board: Four-year universities and colleges: Aurora University Benedictine University at .

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  • Editorial: CPS plan for longer school day has too many holes - Chicago Sun-Times http://ow.ly/9JMii

  • http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/5-reasons-parents-should-oppose-evaluating-teachers-on-test-scores/2011/06/05/AGTppaJH_blog.html

  • Whatever happened to the idea that school should be open and the students should be taught something about MLK, Pulaski, and Columbus, or, better yet, Black, Polish, and Italian history and culture (and, in this city, Greek, Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean, and Mexican, too)? I'll even throw in Presidents' Day.

    The last I heard, none of the above were religious holidays.

    In fact, I forgot that the last time I posted, it was one of those holidays, and hence this board was filled with teachers who, on that day, were teaching NOTHING.

  • email from brizard explains the calendar process, sent in by a reader, pointing out the benefits of full M-F weeks and the input process used to develop the calendar. i wonder if CPS will make some of the calendar's defenders available since most all of what we're hearing here are complaints.

    "Dear Colleagues and Friends,

    "Today, we released our proposed 2012-13 school year calendar, which is more student-focused and designed to put our schools in a better position to boost academic achievement by adding 30 percent more full school weeks and 10 additional student attendance days.

    Currently, nearly half of our Track R school weeks (18 of 38) and 40 percent of our Track E school weeks (16 of 38) are partial weeks, broken up by at least one day off. By creating nine more full weeks for Track R schools and seven more full weeks for Track E schools, the new calendar will provide greater continuity for student learning throughout the year and ease the stress associated with haphazard scheduling the current calendar places on parents and families.

    In addition to benefiting students and families, the new calendar positively impacts CPS educators on a number of fronts:

    The increase in full weeks gives teachers a greater opportunity to support students through their lessons without constant staggered breaks in learning.

    Five professional development days at the beginning of the year will allow teachers the opportunity to continue learning and planning for the implementation of the new Common Core curriculum and instructional framework.

    Professional development days at the end of each quarter will provide the opportunity to review student data and plan for the following quarter.

    In developing this student-focused calendar, we worked with and sought feedback from our principals, the Full Day Advisory Committee and nearly 600 teachers throughout the District through the VIVA project. Full School Day Advisory Committee members, including parents, education experts, principals, elected officials and community and faith leaders supported creating more full weeks of school, as well as, adding an additional 10 student attendance days to the calendar to increase student learning time in the classroom. Principals and teachers supported the full-week schedule, as well as, strategically placed professional development days to ensure adequate time to plan for instruction and collaborate with one another.

  • In reply to Alexander Russo:

    Nice

    "adding an additional 10 student attendance days to the calendar to increase student learning time in the classroom."

    Except for the fact that they are lying. The new PARCC assessment, which will be administered three times a year, will subtract 10 days of instruction from our schedule.

    More testing, no increased time for learning.

    Give 'em hell, 19th Ward Moms...it's about time someone called B.S. on another bird-brained scheme.

  • can't kids learn about the poles and the italians while they're in school? it's not like most families do much with the free time, anyway.

    Plan to Cancel Pulaski, Columbus Days Off School Makes Sense: Chat Room http://ow.ly/9Kp0l

  • In reply to Alexander Russo:

    In your opinion what holidays should students have off?

  • In reply to Alexander Russo:

    My point was that they should be in school to learn about them, instead of having the day off. It isn't clear if you are agreeing with or questioning my point.

  • Chicago coach suspends nearly entire team for shoe-based state title celebration | Prep Rally - Yahoo! Sports http://ow.ly/9KM0r

  • Alexander, this has nothing to do with the post but I think it's important to bring more attention to the 6-year-old girl who was killed by gang gunfire on Saturday. I've been busy all day to see if this CPS death is getting as much coverage as other deaths. If it's not, the situation fits with my argument: media coverage and policing of violent events depend on where one lives. Please check out my commentary:

    www.chicagonow.com/white-rhino

  • In reply to Ray Salazar:

    It is the lead story on the Trib.

  • White Rhino, why is this a "CPS" death exactly?

  • In reply to district299reader:

    I should have used quotes around "CPS death" to show my skepticism of this association in the media. I don't agree with the newspapers' or TV broadcasts' connection. Unfortunately, this is how the unfortunate incidents are usually presented. I haven't been able to keep up with the news to see how it's being covered. Thanks for bringing this up so I can clarify.

  • The child attended Ortiz de Dominguez school in the Little Village community. For some twisted reason the media tends to keeps score of how many CPS students are murdered yearly. Won't be surprised if they (media & deformers) start to pin this on teachers as well. Earlier this year Alexander posted the 2011 "murder map" , which points out locations the all the homicides committed in Chicago in 2011. Not sure who, but someone overlaid the CPS map of school performance on top of it, and the results were telling. Majority of murders happened in areas where schools were "failing". So on top of bankrupting the state, being overpaid, not working long enough, and bilking the already over-extended taxpayers- they may want to add murder to list as well. Very sad.

  • In reply to Maestro:

    Right, which is why we have to be careful with our language. This tragic event had nothing to do with CPS and should not be associated with CPS because it gives the "deformers" the political spin that they need to promote misguided policies.

    Like Ray mentions in his piece, this is strictly a gang problem.

  • In reply to Eric:

    Nothing? No connection between the the shooters, victims, and CPS?

  • In reply to Donn:

    Donn,

    Are you implying there is a connection between this killing and CPS? If so just what is the connection?

  • In reply to district299reader:

    I'm not implying anything.
    Does Saul Bellow have a connection to CPS? Then so do most of the shooters and victims.
    Unless UNO students were having a really bad weekend.

  • In reply to Donn:

    Donn, you're really reaching on this one.

    Asking these questions just shows your deep ideological anger toward CPS/CTU/teachers, so much so that you are looking for any way to connect them to the shooters.

    What about the police? It's their job to protect, where were they? Why are you not looking for connections to CPD's responsibility in this?

    (FYI, UNO students are CPS students)

  • In reply to Eric:

    Anger? I hope not. I'm about to go have dinner with a CTU teacher.

    I'm not looking at who's culpable beyond the shooters. But the shootings are a poignant example of why schools need to change. The largely failed school system blocks the primary way out of poverty. If CTU obstructs change to that system, the CTU needs to be reduced in size. Which, of course, is happening every year.

    It's ironic that union behavior leads to job loss. Especially since, in this case, it's not about union jobs being outsourced to less expensive providers. Skilled union leader would find ways to be part of needed change.

    But I could be wrong about the desire for change. Perhaps the average Chicagoan believes things are going just great with minority youth and don't want new types of schools. Hitting 50 people over a weekend with hand guns does demonstrate significant skill and concentration.

  • In reply to Donn:

    How is CTU obstructing change?

    Read their research-based proposal for change and tell me how they are preventing change. http://bit.ly/z7mbe7

    "But the shootings are a poignant example of why schools need to change."

    ...as well as the economy, gun laws, racism in employment and home-loan practices, disproportionate incarceration, etc. All of these things contribute to the crummy state of our low income neighborhoods, yet you only connect it to schools.

    "Especially since, in this case, it's not about union jobs being outsourced to less expensive providers."

    What do you think charter school teachers are? They are typically paid less, less experienced, less educated, non-union, and have a higher turnover rate than traditional public school teachers. This isn't sustainable, they can't even consistently match what we already have.

    "Skilled union leader would find ways to be part of needed change."

    We are dealing with a Mayor who has no prior education experience and a CEO whose last district deemed him a failure. Why should anyone trust them?
    If you were an expert in any field would you trust a non-expert when they propose you do something that you know will not work?

    I agree things need to change, but the changes that CPS are implementing are unproven and CPS has a poor track record with its initiatives. Remember REN2010?

  • In reply to Eric:

    Eric,
    I am not saying you are but, placing part or portion of the blame on CPD is illogical. We have to understand that the CPD is working under the same out-of-touch Mayor that we are. The policies that an "outsider" police chief, who has largely ignored the rank and file's input have negatively impacted the direct working conditions that our officers work in (JCB?). The "do more with less" philosophy that our mayor has drilled into his department heads (JCB, McCarthy, Santiago), and their lockstep promotion of these policies show that this mayor has a complete and utter disregard for this city and it citizens. He serves nothing more than the corporate and neo-liberal agenda. Not to mention that our mayor still has his proverbial "panties in a bunch" over not getting backing from the public worker unions and his hissy fit continues even now. We need to band together with the FOP, IAFF and other unions that provide "essential" services to ensure that this mayor serves only one term.

  • In reply to Maestro:

    Right, my point is that it is also illogical to connect this with CPS/CTU/teachers. The gangsters are the only ones at fault here.

  • In reply to Donn:

    Wait, if that poor little girl was in the same place at the same time but attended a charter school she somehow would not have been shot?

    Out of curiosity does this link between crime and school district apply strictly to CPS or all school districts?

  • In reply to district299reader:

    It doesn't apply to schools. It indicates the pathetic state of the community. In today's world, what's the only practical way to reduce poverty? Maybe reduce school hours again and give union teachers a raise?

  • In reply to Donn:

    Headache299
    True, as you say, it probably is the the ‘pathetic state of the community’ – but if you close a school in one pathetic gang community, and force the kids to travel through and to other equally or more pathetic rival gang communities, aren’t you knowingly putting the kids at greater risk?

  • In reply to Donn:

    Headache 299
    And exactly when did the union suggest a reduction in school hours and an increase in pay?

  • In reply to Donn:

    Donn you're right let's blame the pathetic state of the community on the teachers and not on the parents who sit them in front of the tv all day instead of having a real conversation with their kids. Let's not blame the parents who let their kids be out at all hours of the night and turn a blind eye when everything points to their kids being gang affiliated...parents should in NO WAY be held accountable for their own children.....

    By the way I'm a product of the CPS system, and I went to elementary and high school in gang infested neighborhoods. I had good teachers and bad ones. I grew up in one of those gang infested neighborhoods where many of my classmates were in jail, drop-outs, and/or pregnant, and I went on to get Bachelor's and Master's degrees. The difference between my classmates and I was that I had family support. I had parents who set rules, sat with me to do my homework, made family dinners a priority, and even though we were a "low-income" family they somehow found the money to take us somewhere every Sunday and on summer vacations.

    But you're right, family is not a key factor, blame the teachers!!!!!

  • Ten more days of school? Fine....just don't forget to pay me for working them!

  • In reply to district299reader:

    Why is it that in any other field working more days without pay would be unheard of but teachers are "greedy" because they think they should be paid for the days they work??????

  • In reply to district299reader:

    Unheard of? If you're professionals you're salaried employees and are paid to do a job. Everyone I know works "extra days". That may be a Saturday, or not take all vacation days.

    Being asked to work 180 days at 7.5 hours/ day with students only seems unreasonable if your a union teacher. The people who pay your salaries typically have many more long work days per year. The CTU isn't able to spin that fundamental fact.

    Nice Arnie Duncan and tired Richie Daley signed the last contract. Rahm isn't nice or tired.

  • In reply to Donn:

    Then Rahm could expect our nice strike!!!

  • In reply to district299reader:

    Are you out of your mind? I too know many salaried employees that work extra hours without extra pay. My husband works for Aramark company and the work load never ends! He is in charge of many employees that barely have a high school education. He is held accountable for their performance just like teachers are to their students.
    I do support teachers and have my child in a CPSchool but please do not complain that it is unheard of to work more hours without compensation. I had a good chuckle over that comment.

  • In reply to Guatemom:

    Nice logical leap. Your husband has workers who he can influence directly through both initial selection (hiring) and dismissal (firing). I must have missed the part where teachers have that option in selecting and then firing their students. Illinois is a "right to work" state, would you choose to offer this same structure to schools and teachers?

    When everyone says idiotic statements like "I know many people who work more for lesser pay" as a justification for reducing the pay for what often are highly educated, hard working teachers it reminds me far too easily of the same lack of logic that allowed for racist separate but "equal" systems to develop in the South and for other soul shattering "acceptances" (holocausts, purges, labor camps, etc.)

    Look its really not OK to reduce teachers' salaries, just because our business and political leader's think that the upper 1% of our nation's population should receive the lion's share of our nation's wealth while reducing their contribution (through lesser taxes) to supporting the society that allowed them to accumulate this wealth in the first place.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/05/1-percent-income-inequality_n_1321008.html

    FYI - People who choose to attack what are effectively powerless teachers anonymously are cowards, you know this when you choose a name to post under that does not directly reflect your actual identity. (I did and now I no longer choose to hide my frustrations with the idiots here.)

    W. Scott Marriott

  • In reply to marrs96:

    Headache299
    Charters can ‘fire’ their students and Rahm thinks it’s great! When the ‘fired’ students are sent back to disrupt the classrooms of the traditional school, Rahm has an excuse to fire the teachers! It's a win-win

  • In reply to district299reader:

    You are right that if traditional schools are going to be handling the more difficult students then that fact has to be recognized.
    Rahm has only tried to close the worst of the worst. Was Crane made a bad school when Noble opened a few blocks away? Perhaps a little, but probably not a lot.
    I'm fine with students failing back to traditional schools if the charter is a demanding school. But I don't see much benefit in charters as easy schools that get rid of the troubled kids.
    The truly successful "no excuses" charters "cream" the teachers and change the students.

  • In reply to Guatemom:

    Nope I'm not, are you? Maybe you don't realize the fact that teachers ALREADY work many hours without compensation, they start early and stay late and spend hundreds of dollars on student materials their schools won't give them. Does your husband have to buy materials for work out of his own pocket? Maybe if he did you would realize how much of your household income was going to his workers and not for your home and the needs of your family....and I doubt you would chuckle then!

  • Belong to a union like a teamster, think like a teamster.

    Never understood why white collar professionals with advanced degrees insisted on belonging to a public employees union.

    Maybe it has something to do with summers off, short work days and a fat pension the rest of us tax payers will never see.

  • In reply to mrobertson718:

    "Never understood why white collar professionals with advanced degrees insisted on belonging to a public employees union."

    It's because teachers care about kids.

    Honestly, why would anyone endure the long hours (many teachers prep for hours at home and spend their own $ on supplies), 20-minute lunch breaks, low starting pay for an advanced degree, underfunded schools and policies that are unproven, and constant bashing by the public?

    Teachers are faced with the impossible task of solving the problems of poverty, and people bash them when they can't.

  • Unions? The answer is simple. If employers want to take advantage (in any and every way) of workers, just find ways of preventing those workers from working together (organizing) to improve their situation. Medieval serfs weren't able to organize either. If and when management decides to value and trust the PROFESSIONALS in their employ, then I suppose unions will no longer be necessary. But today's anti-worker climate certainly doesn't make that seem likely any time soon.

  • Do Lawyers form unions? Dentists? Or only people who rely on tax dollars for their pay check?

    Here's a clue: less than 10% of the American workforce is unionized, and of that 10%, the vast majority belong to public employee unions. Look it up.

    The rest of us tax paying professionals manage to survive without unions.

  • Lawyers? Bwahahahahaha. They are the ones who write the rules. High-paid professionals bankroll the politicians (lawyers) who make the rules that keep the status quo alive. When doctors and dentists start to see their enormous peice of the pie cut, then we might see them form a union. As long as they can continue to collect $1200 per visit, I think they're smart enough to keep quiet.

  • Oh good! Now you're talking about paying me the same as you pay doctors and lawyers? You've got a deal! I do have as much education as they have. I doubt if they are ever threatened by their clients. I doubt if they ever have to wait to go to the bathroom until their lunch break. I think they have air conditioning in their offices and I bet they never have to chase mice out of their drawers. I bet if they work more hours, they make more money. If I had their deal, I wouldn't need a union to protect me either.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    The union is protecting you? Like with tenure and stopping school closings?
    How is it that the charter teachers in Chicago are happier yet work more? Many make more money too, although usually not on an hourly basis.
    What you get funding the CTU is a crude effort to maintain the status quo that further separates teachers from their management and proper professional careers.

  • In reply to Donn:

    Many charter teachers make more money and are happier. Hahaha. Do you have any evidence, or is this another Emanuel-esque false statement.

    This study says 20-25% of charter teachers quit after one year.

    www.vanderbilt.edu/schoolchoice/documents/stuit_smith_ncspe.pdf

    Donn baby, you got nothing.

  • zorn: Goodbye Columbus (and Pulaski) -- Decision to drop school holidays is not about ethnicity, it's about time http://ow.ly/9Mu61

  • In reply to Alexander Russo:

    Headache 299
    What does Eric Zorn know about working any kind of real job? He finger-taps the opinions of his master - he’s basically a glorified blog head- an opinion columnist.

    To date, Zorn’s greatest single accomplishment, his crowning achievement, has been to be one of the very first Americans to promote the United States Forever Postage Stamp! Wow! earth shattering paradigm shift!

    He had a tough life, too! Both parents worked at the University of Michigan, so he’s earned his Badge of Courage in the hood and in the tough schools of Englewood and North-Lawndale.

    A typical lesson-plan requires greater thought, time and effort than a year worth of Eric “never had a real job” Zorn, opinions.

    If Zorn wants city labor to work on Columbus and Pulaski days, and all the others holidays that he suggests, he should try getting his entire hands dirty, not just his little keyboard finger tips, apply for a real job, and post his opinions when he gets home from work! - just like everyone else

  • Donn,

    Can you link the study or survey which backs your claim athat charter school teachers in Chicago are happier than their traditional school counterparts? Also what is the average hours worked per week and salary of these charter school teachers that earn more?

  • In reply to district299reader:

    I have stood in line at quite a few CPS job fairs alongside charter school teachers who were miserable in their jobs, and trying desperately to get hired at a regular CPS school.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    I agree, charter teachers only teach there because they haven't found a job in CPS yet!

  • Funding a study like that would be a constructive use of union dues.

  • In reply to Donn:

    LOL, in other words you have no proof that charter school teachers are happier? I suspected that you were simply trolling on this site, now I know for sure.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    I'm surprised a teenage girl posts here. Good for you!

    There could be no "proof", just evidence in support of a position. I made a claim that you didn't dispute.

    My experience is that CTU high school teachers outside of SE and magnets are much less happy than HS charter teachers. Let's see how many people claim otherwise.

    Outside of the better schools, CPS/CTU has collectively created a poor work environment over which the typical teacher has little influence. Better districts/networks don't work that way. (That's another claim.)

  • In reply to Donn:

    Yes but the actual research on Charter School teachers shows they actually aren't happier.

    http://www.vanderbilt.edu/schoolchoice/blog/?p=94

    "The odds of a charter school teacher moving schools are 76% greater."

    "we found that 25% of charter school teachers turned over during the 2003-2004 school year, compared to 14% of traditional public school teachers."

    "...we found the odds of a charter school teacher leaving the profession versus staying in the same school are 132% greater than those of a traditional public school teacher."

  • In reply to Eric:

    It's interesting, I wonder if that says something about the ambitions of charter teachers or the relative opportunities they have outside the field of education.

  • In reply to WestLooper:

    I think it does say something about charter teacher ambitions and the relative opportunities they have outside the field of education.

    Ambition? A significant percentage of charter teachers are TFA grads, especially at KIPP. In large part, though not exclusively, they view teaching as a way to pad their resume and feel-good work history in exchange for a payoff 2 or 3 years down the road. TFA itself plays up the post-teaching banking, legal, and other career opportunities on their own website.

    Likewise, they have more opportunities than traditional teachers outside of the field of education. Most TFA students have 5 weeks of education training on top of whatever a 4 year bachelor's degree major. Traditional teachers have education degrees. It doesn't take much of a leap to realize why many charter teachers, even non-TFA alums without ed degrees and certification, have greater opportunities outside of education.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    Headache299
    arne duncan just gave TFA 8 million
    TFA are also paid to earn off their advanced degrees, unlike other teachers who have to pay out of pocket – giving the well-to-do an advanced degree is what arne calls “a civil rights issue”

  • In reply to Donn:

    Donn,
    CPS teachers at the rougher schools are unhappy because our city allows students to behave violently and disrespectfully. I can believe a charter high school teacher *might* be happier than one who works at Fenger or Farragut. The conditions are miserable at those schools largely because the student body is so awful. That has nothing to do with the union and everything to do with the belief that adults should contort themselves into any shape needed to adjust to students, even if they are displaying criminal behavior. When our city starts removing students, as I believe they should, from ANY high school for so much as flashing a single gang sign, morale will go up all over.
    No child should be allowed to do this.

  • In reply to teacherparent:

    teacherparent,

    What do you know about the environments inside Fenger or Farragut, exactly? Who are you to say that "the student body is so awful" at either of those schools?

    If you teach at either Farragut or Fenger, and have a friend who teaches at the other, fine. Otherwise, you may want to think twice before labeling these schools as categorically "miserable".

  • In reply to district299reader:

    I am married to a teacher at one of those high schools. My husband loves his students, but he comes home looking like he's been through combat. Btw, I am a veteran and by veteran, I mean military.

  • In reply to district299reader:

    Headache299
    Teacherparent is absolutely right – and the elementary schools can be just as bad – naturally (normal distribution speaking), not all the students are awful, but these two schools, like many other CPS schools are really rough – rougher than the Chicago media will ever depict because they are ‘children’ – don’t attack the messenger; a significant population is so completely disruptive that they thoroughly threaten the academic achievement of the majority, and rarely, if anything, is done about them. They are slapped on the wrist and sent right back to disrupt again and again and again. Sorry! Just the truth!

  • In reply to district299reader:

    Which is exactly the problem with the neighborhood school model today in urban poverty. When these schools were first built the students were expected to conform to the school. In our "enlightenment", schools lost the ability to civilize and educate children from poverty.

    In historically recent times. the poorer of Irish immigrant groups were likely similar to todays when entering first grade.

    We're no longer willing to beat seven year old for failing to bow to the teacher. We have never found a workable replacement model for discipline in the neighborhood school model. The model is dependent on civility being provided by either the parent of teacher.

    CTU and AUSL can fight over how to make small improvements to neighborhood schools. Neither matters if the goal is actually changing life outcomes for students, because both just build on a school culture that doesn't work.

    A portfolio model essentially sorts students by capability. That the most ethical and effective way to produce better student outcomes. We aren't nearly knowledgable enough to fix neighborhood schools.

  • “CPD does NOT answer 911 calls at Wilcox/Francisco. CPD does NOT monitor Police Camera 398. PLEASE HELP US! We are asking for public support to expose that COMSTAT figures are grossly misstated. The average arrest per police officer at the 11th District is LESS THAN ONE PER MONTH. Maybe 50 arrests could have made.on one night! ..if you look at this video. PLEASE HELP US. Why do police drive around and NOT ARREST people committing crime?”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyUZMaTMQ9o&feature=youtu.be

  • I'm surprised a teenage girl had to point out your lack of evidence. It was clear from your wording that you tried to pass off your opinion as fact.

    Since in your opinion. "there could be no proof" I guess CTU should not fund that study after all, right?

    Also, I will dispute your claim. My job allows me to work with teachers at both the elementary and high school level. I know teachers that teach at SE schools, private schools, neighborhood schools, and charter schools. Not one charter school teacher I know is "happier" or more satisfied than a neighborhood school teacher. At best their level of satisfaction seems about equal. Matter of fact, of the handful of teachers I know that have taught at both charters and neighborhood schools, they overwhelmingly prefer the neighborhood school.

    I will also add that I know teachers that teach at charters in other states and they both are miserable and longing to return to a traditional school district. They both claim that the charter schools restricts their ability to truly teach and that they are not having the impact on students they thought they would have.

    According to this research my friends are not the only ones whom feel this way:

    Teacher Attrition Rate Higher at Charter Schools Than Traditional Public Schools
    http://www.educationnews.org/articles/11842/1/Teacher-Attrition-Rate-Higher-at-Charter-Schools-Than-Traditional-Public-Schools/Page1.html

    Charter School Teachers Leave in Droves, Study Finds
    http://www.nea.org/home/18100.htm

  • In reply to district299reader:

    Is there a CTU theme song?

    Currently the only working teachers I know are in Chicago public schools. My reference was specifically to CPS/CTU high school suckiness, which is my area of interest.
    Like everyone, many teachers would prefer a part time job with full time pay. After the union can no longer provide that perk, let's see how teachers feel about the privilege of paying union salaries.
    What the CTU has been most effective at is turning moderate democrats into anti union zealots.

  • In reply to Donn:

    Donn, just curious, but are you currently employed? You seem to have a lot of time on your hands to spend pontificating about charter schools, CTU, and CPS. What exactly has piqued your interest in an arena that your obviously have no real connections to other than some family member(?) or your dinner date who works in education? May I suggest you put your money where your mouth is and volunteer for a few weeks at a local neighborhood school, not a SE or charter, a regular neighborhood high school? Then you might have a little more to say based on your own personal experience, rather than going on about what your "education connections" tell you or what you read in the newspapers. It would give you a little more "cred" as they say and you might also be taken a little more seriously. Reading your posts for the last week or so, I sense a little disconnect from day to day, hour to hour. You seem to be all over the place quite often. Do some real research and pull yourself together! It always helps when one has some personal experience to fall back on when commenting on other people's realities.

  • In reply to Donn:

    Load of Bullocks. Your data?

  • It seems like everyone is expecting a teacher strike. Would this happen in the fall or around December?

  • In reply to leland:

    I'm hearing September.

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    What day does your school have to notify you by if you are being renewed for the next school year? Can someone help?

  • Since most CPS teachers are required to live in the city of Chicago, don't the taxes they pay go towards their own salaries?

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