Teachers: The Mysterious "Do Not Hire" List [upd]

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The Reader has a fascinating story about how confused and inconsistent the layoff process has been -- and about the possible use or misuse of the DNH list for probationary teachers and tenured teachers with an unsat rating.  Check it out and then come back here and help me understand a few things:  How do you (or your principal or a parent) find out if you've gotten an unsatsifactory rating?  How do you find out who's on the DNH list (shouldn't this be public information, too)?  How do you know who's replaced you at the school if you've been let go?   UPDATE:  This may help solve the mystery The Reader uncovered:  WBEZ reports that CPS has -- unbeknown to anyone -- hired 30 master teachers to rate 4,000 online applications, marking some of them "not recommended" based on an online review only. It's not the old DNH list.  It's a new one.  CTU is pissed. Has anyone else come across this? 

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  • 1. Teachers are given their rating at the end of the school year. Teachers who receive a Superior or Excellent rating are rated only every two years unless there is a new principal.
    2. To lower a tenured teacher's rating to unsatisfactory, the principal must warn the teacher and give them specific suggestions for remediation. They have to observe four times giving input each time.
    3. A new principal can give a teacher whatever ratings they want so the rules don't apply.
    4. Principals have access to personal files so can see the rating of any teacher applying for a job.
    5. A parent would need to file under the FOI to see ratings.
    In California, they are talking about putting teacher's ratings on the website so anyone can view them (ratings are tied into test scores)

  • I just hope that principals who are telling applicants for positions that they would like to hire them but they are on the DNH list are telling the truth. If they are not they should be fired.

    The reason I say this is in one of the cases described in the Reader article at least one teacher was told by the principal they were on a DNH list and CPS Human Services denied it. Someone is not telling the truth. Since every thing coming out of the central office is being cleared by the law department and CPS realizes if it has created any type of secret list the legal problems this will bring I find it hard to believe CPS central office is lying when it says someone is not on such a list. But then Mr. Scott apparently did rob CPS via credit card misuse and CPS has yet to honestly report that to the public, so I guess anything is possible.

    Rod Estvan

  • I think I may be on this list because I angered a powerful principal. How do I find out if I am on it? If I am, I am going to sue her and the district.

  • I worked in 3 different schools that had new principals during the time that I was there and each time I was told by both the Union and CPS that they could give tenured teachers unsatisfactory without going through the procedure since it was considered that the teacher had never been rated before. It used to be that you couldn't lower a teacher's rating even from Superior to Satisfactory without a procedure but I don't think that is the case now. I was including the 90 day period in my time line and just didn't spell it out. There are two other things that haven't been mentioned. First, during the 90 day period, a teacher who has at least an excellent rating and is tenured is supposed to be assigned to help the teacher being threatened with unsatisfactory. Second, the unsatisfactory rating threat is often used to keep teachers in line because it is hard to challenge unless the principal doesn't follow the time line. CTU has said repeatedly, they can challenge the content of a rating only procedural discrepancies so the whole process is very political and has little to do with how a teacher is actually performing. I have known teachers who received national recognition who were threatened with unsatisfactory ratings and teachers who were very poor teachers and made comments indicating that they didn't care (i.e. "If I can't do it (grade papers, make plans, etc) during school hours, it won't get done.") who have received high ratings because they are "yes men" to the principals.

  • Send a certified return receipt letter giving five business days to respond. Asking if you are on the Do Not Hire list and also that you want a copy of your DS2 report.

    The other guy most likely is James Ciesel who works to terminate tenured teachers

    The way I would do it would be send a certified letter, email with read notification and fax w/ send confirmation.

    Ms. Cheryl J. Colston
    Director, Labor and Employee Relations
    125 South Clark Street, 13th Floor
    Chicago, IL 60603

    cjcolston@cps.k12.il.us

    Phone(773) 553-1200
    Fax(773) 553-1201

    Mr James G Ciesil
    Law Department
    125 South Clark Street 7th Floor
    Chicago, IL 60603

    jciesil@cps.k12.il.us

    773-553-1643 Phone
    773-553-1701 Fax
    773-616-6714 Cellular

  • get your DS2 report

  • Whittier Field House march, Friday 9/24 at 10am

    Parents camped out in a plant

  • I was given a satisfactory on my most recent evaluation and was surprised to receive a letter of non renewal at the end of the year. When I was asked back by the principal this fall I found out that I was placed on the DNH list due to his incompetence. He tried to have it overturned and could not, he also refused to give me another copy of my evaluation to clear my name. Beware of Bogan and Ken McNeal.

  • She sure has not responded to my letter....

  • I was given a Satisfactory rating and found myself on the DNH list, my friend was given an excellent rating and was on the same list as well and the administration changed his rating to unsatisfactory. How is this reasonable if a Principal can just stab you in the back like this? I was also asked back to the same school and given a promotion to the IB department only to find out that I could not be rehired.

  • wbez reports that cps has -- unbeknownst to anyone -- rated 4,000 online applications using a cadre of 30 master teachers and a TNTP rubric, resulting in what are essentially DNH ratings on some teachers' printouts -- having nothing to do with the usual evaluation process.

    http://www.chicagopublicradio.org/Content.aspx?audioID=44614

  • In reply to AlexanderRusso:

    So does anybody know how the applicants can find out their scores?

  • In order to understand what the rubric CPS is using teachers can get an idea by looking at what the New Teacher Project has developed so far. I would recommend reading pages 8-11 of the report

  • In reply to Rodestvan:

    Master teachers are doing this rating?? Ha. I personally know two raters whose sole qualifications are that they are TFA alums. Two-years teachers deciding the fates of hundreds more qualified.

  • It has come to the attention of this writer that there are numerous concerns regarding the contents of the personnel records maintained by CPS Department of Human Capitol. The stories include everything from DNH, to changed evaluations to loss of contents. There are veteran employees who are being asked to submit new letters of reference, physical exams, letters of reference and complete human capitol application. Where are the documents which were submitted at the time of hire?

    Recommendation: Everyone employed by Chicago Public Schools needs to make an appointment to inspect your personnel folder asap. Document any erroneous items and report it to your union immediately.

  • I have finally received some answers from downtown when I contacted the legal department regarding my DNH status. Apparently the principal made a huge mistake because he gave our ratings in june. My advice to all teachers out there is to contact the legal department and hire an attorney. Cheryl Colston called me 30 minutes after I talked to the legal department. I had been trying for the past three weeks to get in touch with her to no avail. Something I said must have ruffled some feathers and they are fast tracking my case.

  • Contact all of the following people; make sure to make a formal request to get the following specific information: Ask if you are on the DNH list and get your personal DS2 report from the Decision Support System.

    Ms. Cheryl J. Colston
    Director, Labor and Employee Relations
    125 South Clark Street, 13th Floor
    Chicago, IL 60603
    Phone(773) 553-1200
    Fax(773) 553-1201
    cjcolston@cps.k12.il.us

    Mr James G Ciesil
    Law Department
    125 South Clark Street 7th Floor
    Chicago, IL 60603
    773-553-1643 Phone
    773-553-1701 Fax
    773-616-6714 Cellular
    jciesil@cps.k12.il.us

    Alicia Winckler
    Chief Human Capital Officer
    125 South Clark Street 2nd fl
    Chicago, IL 60603
    (773) 553-1070 Phone
    (773) 553-1071 Fax
    awinckler@cps.k12.il.us

    Cassandra Daniels
    Legal Clerk
    125 South Clark Street 7th fl
    Chicago, IL 60603
    (773) 553-1660 Phone
    (773) 553-1701 Fax
    cddaniels@cps.k12.il.us

    Plus get a copy of your personnel file from the second floor of 125 S. Clark Street. here is the form top be filled out
    http://www.cps-humanresources.org/Employee/Forms/SalAdm/Per_Med.pdf

  • In reply to kuglerjohn:

    Date

    To Whom It May Concern:

    I request access to and copies of any and all records regarding my electronic and hard copy file regarding:

    1. Being on a Don Not Hire List

    2. My complete print out and report from Decision Support System and/or DS2 file.

    Thank you for your assistance.
    (Your Name)
    Last 4 of Social or EID #

  • In reply to kuglerjohn:

    typo

    Don should be Do

  • What is this host school? Can teachers do an internship experience there to complete their NBC process?

  • i got a note from an NBC teacher who says she and others were sent this letter in june asking if they wanted to help screen NEW teacher applications -- she didn't get the job and is glad for it now, knowing what the job really was. read all about it here:

    http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/district-299/2010/09/were-teachers-misled-into-rating-colleagues-1.html

  • The DNH designation is reserved for all employees who are: 1. Dismmissed for cause (i.e. for misconduct or for poor performance after a hearing). 2. For probationary teachers- teachers without tenure, new teachers are hired for a year at a time, and if twice principals decide not to invite them back (non-renewed). 3. Employees at any time dismissed with an unsatisfactory rating are designated DNH. P.S.- If you are on the DNH list and don't fit one of these three reasons, get an attorney, you have a lawsuit!

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