Ya’ll made a hash of the election don’t ya know.

Election judges process ballots in the basement level at the Chicago Board of Elections in Chicago's Loop on Nov. 3, 2020. (Jose M. Osorio / Chicago Tribune)

Election judges process ballots in the basement level at the Chicago Board of Elections in Chicago's Loop on Nov. 3, 2020. (Jose M. Osorio / Chicago Tribune)

By ya'll I mean all you Democrats and Republicans, liberals, progressives and conservatives. President Donald Trump and President-elect Joe Biden and your campaigns.

Just about all of you stated as fact prior to the election that it would be rigged. Obviously, whoever lost would keep up the drumbeat while the winner would dismiss the possibility of a rigged election as fanciful, conspiratorial and nutty.

Then this Sidney Powell shows up giving credibility to the the charge of a conspiracy, by a bunch of commies working out of Venezuela, reigniting  my awful memories of Sen. Joe McCarthy who found a "red fellow-traveler" hiding under every State Department desk.

The Biden stalwarts wallowed in their own fantasies, about, for example, Trump stripping the streets of those blue mailboxes to stymie mail-in ballots for Biden.

Speaking of Biden, let's not forget the major media that allowed a presidential candidate--a presidential candidate, for God's sake!--to get away with without answering tough questions. Any claims by the media of professionalism is a steaming pile of crap.

Speaking of Biden, he's the beneficiary of the most corruptible electoral system ever devised outside of the Kremlin. Spreading unrequested ballots across the countryside like manna from heaven, allowing political hacks to collect the ballots and a host of other "progressive" steps designed to make voting as simple as A,B and C are so obviously corruptible as to make the system's supporters appear to be fools or shameless partisans.

The days that it has taken to count some of the ballots is evidence by itself that the ballots are so insecure and the results so challengeable as to make any claims otherwise laughable. And scary.

It opened the door for Trump supporters to spend the next four years claiming that the elected was indeed rigged, a claim that is not without merit. It allowed Trump to initiate legal challenges in the battleground states, a right that he is and was fully entitled to exercise, despite the ridicule of his opponents.

Trump, of course, made himself look like a petulant child who didn't get his way and is going to "show them."

If this election proves anything, it's that elections are fragile and that the number of ways the "will of the people" can be subverted are innumerable. The first order of business of the new administration and Congress is to return to secure, sensible ways to protect the ballots.

They can start by returning to in-person voting with a requirement for an ID. Mail-in votes should be reserved for deployed military and people who genuinely won't be around on election day. They can make the deadlines for accepting ballots real deadlines. They can require that all ballot counting be open to inspection by both partisan and neutral observers.

And most of all, they can and must stop insisting that voting has been "fraud free. Designing a system of voting based on that preposterous and naive fantasy is at the root of the unprecedented problems we've experienced over the past several months. We deserve better.

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  • It all starts with the voter registration rolls. How are they managed and updated to account for deaths or moving? Locally and nationally. I have several friends who keep receiving mail in ballots for their parents deceased for 3-4 years. Friends who moved out of state but get forwarded mail in ballots for their old addresses. And when you hear of some state or entity "purging" their electoral rolls, all you hear is "Voter suppression". There has to be a better way of making sure voter registration rolls are accurate.

  • In reply to Get out of IL now!:

    It's almost like you know nothing of how the system works and yet you assume that your few anecdotes represent how the system actually works.

    I hope your fantasies make you feel about your preconceived notions.

    Or, you know, you could spend a little bit of time to actually learn how the system operates? Nah... So much more fun to make unfounded accusations about things you admittedly know nothing about.

  • In reply to BillDCat:

    Since you must know how the system works, maybe you can explain it to us dopes. How do they remove dead voters? Voters who move? My father died, and within a week, his SS stopped and his credit cards were cancelled. Yet, he is still listed as a registered voter (we still get the voting mail for him and my mother). I'm not the only one, friends sent me photocopies of ballots they received for their deceased parents in both AZ and FL. So, I'm the only one this has happened to? My anecdote only? The mailed ballots are a fantasy? I admittedly have seen mail-in ballots for dead people, and know that for a fact. If you are from IL and lived here for more than 15 years, you have to know that the system has been manipulated for decades. This is not a Republican/Democrat Trump/Biden issue, it's an issue of credibility as to whether people should believe in the validity of the system.

  • In reply to Get out of IL now!:

    Am I supposed to believe that *now* you care how the voting system works? Seriously, you bother to go online and whine about something you proudly know nothing about. You get called on it and now I'm supposed to put together a list of resources for you to peruse while you sit in the bathroom?

    People like you are the worst kind of hypocrite. You intentionally remain ignorant of something so you can go online and bitch about it. Do you think this makes you look clever or something? Yes, there are dead people who get voter registration cards. Your anecdote may even be true. But you act as though something happens to you and all of a sudden it's supposed to be meaningful.

    Does this happen a lot? Does it happen everywhere? Why does it happen? You couldn't care less about any of these facts. This current election didn't go your way and now you want the rest of us to believe that it is all built on sand. No thanks. Go ahead, learn something. Find out how it works, then come tell us. For you to ask me to do this for you is the pinnacle of hypocrisy and laziness. Don't worry, no one here reads what you write and gets confused and thinks you are smart.

  • > Sidney Powell shows up giving credibility

    It's telling of your own gullibility and lack of knowledge that you imply that Sidney Powell has given credibility to anything. When people say stupid things about subjects they appear to know nothing about, that doesn't give credibility to the stupid things they say.

    Seriously, Dennis, are you really trying to imply any sort of equivalence between some people on the left that you are claiming said the election was going to be rigged and the ridiculous claims coming from the Trump campaign? This serves only to make you seem like a simpleton.

    > steps designed to make voting as simple as A,B and C

    Steps designed to make exercise of our freedom of speech as simple as A, B and C are ridiculous. It should be hard to exercise freedom of speech.

    Steps designed to make it simple to be free of illegal government search and seizure as simple as A, B, and C are ridiculous. The default should be that the government can stop and seize and search citizens at will.

    See a pattern here, Dennis? What I suspect you mean is that, voting should be hard for other people. I suspect you have a car and a job that doesn't make it difficult for you to actually get to a voting booth on election day. I also suspect that your health allows you to easily travel to the polling location.

    How should we make voting difficult for YOU? I suspect you might not like the answer. Voting should be easy for you. It already is, so no changes are necessary. If voting is hard for other people, well, that certainly isn't your problem, is it?

    I'm reminded of that saying "millionaires acting at the behest of billionaires in order to fool the middle class"...

  • So where is your proof? Would you have written this nonsense if Trump had won?

  • This is nothing more than the pathetic whine of a loser.

  • You guys are right. Everything about the election just ducky. No change needed.

  • In reply to Dennis Byrne:

    The reply of a loser who is called out. You posted a bunch of nonsense and were called on it. So, instead of making a meaningful response, you reply like an 8 year old. If my children did this with a homework assignment, they'd lose desert. And you like to refer to your past as a professional.

    You really don't have any shame, do you?

  • In reply to BillDCat:

    Some comments don't deserve a reply.

  • In reply to Dennis Byrne:

    And yet, here you are. The best you can do is make a ridiculous remark? You aren't going to be able to fool people too much longer by making claims to have been a professional journalist. Seriously, saying that Sidney Powell lends credibility to anything? You know, you're on the record with that one, now.

  • Amusing how the Leftist Chorus finds not a scintilla of evidence of fraud in the voting system, while they spent the last four years ripping their hair out about fraud in the voting system. Amusing but hypocritical. And typical.

  • In reply to Richard Davis:

    Seriously, who on the left spent the last four years ripping their hair out about fraud in the voting system? Seriously, who? There may have been fringe voices. Maybe. I didn't hear them, so I don't know. But, that isn't what you said. You said "the Leftist Chorus". That doesn't sound like a fringe voice or two. That sounds like you are referring to the mainstream. And honestly, if you weren't referring to the mainstream, then this would be an odd comment to make, right?

    So, go ahead. Tell us. Where were all these mainstream voices? Because the right has turned itself into a clown car with its remarks about fraud. Have you actually looked at the court cases the Trump campaign is filing as evidence of fraud? Have you noticed that when asked outright if there is fraud, all of those lawyers who know that as officers of the court, there are consequences to what they say in court, there isn't a single accusation of fraud. On the contrary... When it comes to court, all we hear are voices that say they don't have any evidence of fraud or that anyone was disenfranchised. We hear wild accusations, but when asked about them, people from the post office suddenly recant.

    Seriously, where is the legitimate evidence of fraud. There are lawsuits all over the country. Surely one of them has evidence. Surely they aren't all getting dropped by the people who bring them for no reason. Surely the people who brought them in the first place aren't deciding that they want nothing to do with these clowns and moving on to other ambulances to chase.

    Is this seriously the wagon you want to hitch yourself to?

  • In reply to BillDCat:

    You must not read the Leftist Chorus right here on Chicagonow.com As for mainstream, Hillary still thinks the election was stolen from her. If Hillary thought the election of 2016 was rigged I guess I will be in "good" company when I allege the same about 2020. Besides, I live in Chicago, where every dead vote counts. Perhaps you live in Mayberry, where folk are honest and never stuff ballot boxes. Maybe you're Otis because your historonic screeds against Dennis seem to fulfill some kind of sorry addiction. So, what's your real name?

  • In reply to Richard Davis:

    So, I asked you to provide some kind of proof, any kind of proof, that the Left has been claiming that the last presidential election was rigged. You responded by saying "Hillary Clinton". You could have at least pointed to an article or two that talks about how Clinton has been making this claim. You're funny.

    Seriously, no one is reading you and accidentally thinking that you are smart.

  • In reply to BillDCat:

    Why are you such an angry man? I'm guessing you are a man. So, what's your real name?

  • In reply to Richard Davis:

    You should start counting your non sequiturs.

  • In reply to Richard Davis:

    This was funny. When asked about proof, suddenly you want to know my name and where I live... Anything else? My age? What I had for breakfast?

    Has it ever occurred to you how little faith even you have in your own arguments? You spend about 2 breaths making them and less time defending them before you move on to something else. Changing the subject as much as possible seems to be your main tactic.

    I'm not saying you are a paid troll. Just, you act like a paid troll would act. You don't act like a human who has come to a conclusion based on facts. You kind of act like a reasonably well programmed bot. Not a terrible one. Not a great one. But, 'bot' seems to be the most apt comparison. I'm not saying you are one. Just that, you seem more like a bot than you do a person with an informed opinion.

  • In reply to Richard Davis:

    You're living in the past, Richard. A weird and largely mythical past. The year is 2020 and your candidate,Trump has lost a fair and free election by more than 5 million votes. Time to move on. Accept defeat. And live in the real world again.

  • In reply to Aquinas wired:

    I live in Chicago where voter fraud is an art. To deny that is living in a mythical world. But that is the world of a Progressive.

  • In reply to Richard Davis:

    Non sequitur

  • In reply to Richard Davis:

    Where is your proof, my friend? Until you have proof (real proof, not just conjecture or conspiracy theories, a la Sidney) don't you think you should just zip it up?

  • In reply to Aquinas wired:

    I'll agree to "zip" it up when you stop with your rhymes. You spent the last four years creating TDS post after TDS post. You're free to continue without zipping it up. Do you know how fascistic that sounds?

  • In reply to Richard Davis:

    Non sequitur

  • Lightfoot. Pritzker. Madigan. Durbin. Duckworth. Biden. Harris.

    You deserve the monkeys you vote for.

    Bon Appétit.

  • In reply to mancow:

    Vous etes degoutant.

  • Dennis, if you were serious about reforming elections you would begin by proposing a constitutional amendment to remove the electoral college. What upset the opponents of Trump most about the 2016 election was not that we lost, but than we won. Three million more certified voters voted for Hillary Clinton than Donald Trump, but because of the electoral college the minority rules today.

    We should let people vote in any manner they can safely and securely do so, but we should also assure voters that all votes are equal.

  • In reply to jnorto:

    Indeed. And when was the last time a Republican candidate for president won the popular vote? Was it George H.W. Bush? Quite a while ago.

    No other real democracy in the world has found it necessary to have an abomination like the Electoral College. Why should we?

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