Smoking pot=okay. Smoking cigarets=bad

Help me out here. We're seeing all kinds of cheers from cultural lefties and libertarian righties about the legalization of recreational marijuana in Colorado and of "medical" dope in Illinois.

Yet, smoking cigarets, cigars and pipes continues to be one of the greatest of all sins against the commonweal, at least weedaccording to many progressives.

So, are the benefits of the weed so superior to "ordinary" tobacco  that the former should be legalized while the latter is subject to endless legal, marketing and other politically correct campaigns to get everyone to stub out their cigs? Will there be campaigns against "second hand" smoke from joints?

Just wondering.

(In case you're wondering, I gave up smoking in the early 1980s.)

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  • Were you totally stoned when you wrote this? It makes no sense. Straw-man alert. Nobody is taking away anyone's cigarettes in this country.

    Smoke at home all you want. Don't smoke in tight public places or indoors because it annoys non-smokers.

    Pot will be regulated and taxed exactly like cigs.

  • In reply to Smart Guy:

    "Regulated?" Oh, sure. E.g. you can buy 1 ounce of weed from a licensed dealer. But how many dealers can you visit in one day? Do you seriously think that people won't be buying more than an ounce, or that they will restrict their smoking to their homes, and won't in public. Do you seriously believe that these regulations will be seriously enforced? If you truly believe that, you deserve to be charged the $10 or whatever it costs per. Looking at the videos of the dopers that lined up early to be the first to buy, they might just as well have "suckers" written on their foreheads.

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    In reply to Dennis Byrne:

    I truly believe it's easy to purchase as much marijuana as you want right now when it's illegal. Just as you could buy as much booze as you wanted during Prohibition.

    And just as with the end of Prohibition, some bad guys are going to be put out of business, some legitimate regulated businesses will make money and government will collect taxes and have an interest in keeping illegal product out of the market.

    What do you care about weed, anyway? You can go into Walgreens, buy pack of Luckys and a bottle of Jack Daniels over-the-counter while you get your prescriptions filled in back. If you're worried about abuse, addiction and societal costs, start there. You're barking up the wrong tree with weed.

    "Reefer Madness" wasn't a documentary.

  • Like will joints be considered butts, if tossed out of a car window? Totally not cool if so.

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    Another day, another strawman and/or boogieman.

    Marijuana is highly regulated in states where it's allowed for medical or recreational purposes. It's illegal to smoke it in public.

    And who knew that "progressives" were the only ones who objected to the health risks to others from smoking on trains, planes, bars, restaurants and other enclosed public places? That has never been my experience, as a continuing smoker. Politics had nothing to do with the objections.

    I don't recall anyone describing it as "one of the greatest of all sins against the commonweal," but dishonest hyperbole goes hand-in-hand with the creation of strawmen among some writers.

  • In reply to Sven Nelson:

    Okay, Sven, hyperbole aside. Smoking tobacco and marijuana are both addictive. (See: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/almost-addicted/201311/is-marijuana-addictive) So, why is there such a celebratory air about the legalization of one addictive drug while loathing over another? Doesn't that strike you as even slightly hypocritical?

    As far as your comment below about the dangers of prescription painkillers, I refer you to the above mentioned Psychology Today article.

    I leave you with the words of this creepy user upon the availability of legalized marijuana: ""I've been waiting 34 years for this moment," enthused Chrissy Robinson, who arrived at one store, Evergreen Apothecary in Denver, at 2 a.m. to be among the first in line. "I've been smoking since I was 14. No more sneaking around."

    Right, he's not addicted.

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    In reply to Dennis Byrne:

    Who cares? Is Chrissy bothering you? What's it your business? People pour out of the bars at 4 a.m. and get in their cars. You can't possibly police them all to make sure they're not going to kill someone.

    If you're concerned about substance abuse to individuals and society, cigarettes, booze and prescription drugs are the biggies. Weed isn't even on the radar.

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    In regards to medical marijuana, you're aware that most smoke weed as a replacement for prescription, highly addictive and dangerous painkillers like Oxy and Vicodin?

    About 16,000 people in the United States die every year from accidental overdoses of prescription painkillers. The next death from a marijuana overdose will be the first.

  • I hate both. I don't know where that puts me.

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    Dennis, you want to chime in anytime why someone buying weed legally (or illegally) and smoking it in private is any of your business?

    Big impact on your life, or society? Or are you just peeking in your neighbors windows, because that's what you like to do?

    Do you troll the convenience and liquor stores, hunting for "addicts" to feed your outrage?

    Wouldn't it be easier to say that you just don't like some people who are different than you?

    And, who cares, what you think, or them? Why is it other peoples' lives your business?

    You wear your religion on your sleeve, Let me ask you something:

    Who goes to heaven? Just those who think like you?

    How about Muslims, Jews, Protestants, Mormons, and those not affiliated with your brand of Sky God, and the majority of humanity that has nothing to do with the Children of Abraham?

    Does your god condemn most of humanity, that ever lived, to Hell, because they didn't get the memo like you.?

    Are you cool with that?

  • Somehow you slid from smoking pot to theology and God. Well focused. I guess that I'm supposed to say that I could give a flying f… whether Chrissy smokes or not. Except that, contrary to your impression, there is a societal cost, just as there is to drinking, smoking and other addictive habits. Maybe this will help: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/ondcp/issues-content/marijuana_and_public_health_one_pager_-_final.pdf

    Finally, judging from your feverish reaction to my brief observation, I'd suggest that you could use another toke.

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