Saints Beat Bears at Soldier Field. Rapid. Fire.

Saints Beat Bears at Soldier Field. Rapid. Fire.

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Bears move to 3-2 on the season. Is it devastating? No. But are there things to be learned? Of course. Rapid fire.

  • It seems the Bears are a very good reactive coaching staff. They come out of the break with an understanding of the defense and move the ball much more effectively. If Marc Trestman is going to become an elite head coach he'll need to be able to make those kinds of adjustment DURING the game.
  • Not bad, Adam Podlesh.
  • I'm tired of seeing Robbie Gould attempt onside kicks.
  • If you were to give academic grades to players you'd give Alshon Jeffery an A+.
  • What would yo give Earl Bennett? (F?)
  • Lance Briggs played a wonderful game. Really, though? You jump there? When the whole world knows they're not running a play?
  • I thought Shea McClellin played well.
  • Hell the entire defense played well. The Saints were always going to score 20-25 points against the Bears this week and it was incumbent upon the Bears to match those points.
  • James Anderson should be brought back in 2014.
  • I don't know how different this system is from last year's but Major Wright seems lost in it.
  • How many good things does Eric Weems do each season? 1?
  • I thought Matt Forte would be the difference between the Bears and Saints today. Forte wasn't good.
  • Saints know how to run a screen. It's almost beautiful to watch.
  • Marc Trestman and Aaron Kromer can't let Jay Cutler be hit as many times as he was today. They were hired to do the opposite. Cutler wasn't hit because of player error. He was hit because Rob Ryan brought more rushers than the Bears could block and they didn't adjust. That is inexcusable.
  • But I loved Trestman declining the hold and taking the down loss. I've wanted coaches to do that for years and they seem to hate it.
  • Have to look at tape to evaluate offensive linemen but didn't think they played poorly.
  • Earl Bennett did.

These are just the rapid fires. But the Bears have made one thing certain: Thursday night's home game against the Giants is now an absolute must win. If they lose Thursday night, the season becomes a difficult journey.

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  • First time the Bears disappointed me this year was last week. Today was the same as the first. :(

  • Little things made the difference everywhere today. Earl catches 1 of 2 and its a whole different game. Lance doesn't shit his pants and the Bears get another possession. Bushrod or Forte pick up either of the two backside blitzers in the first and its a different 1st quarter. Shea removes whatever he's hiding between the crown of his skull and the inside of his helmet, he won't look like he's special ed and I will stop thinking about it

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    If my aunty had balls she'd be my uncle ... that one ?

  • Very good Canada. I enjoyed them all. One of Thomson's tune's kinda reminded me of this beauty.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp-dO8fN4_k

  • Second week in a row Bears couldn't even give themselves a shot to win in the 4th quarter. I have no idea why they went for it on 4th down instead of kicking the FG down 10. Just take the points and give yourself a chance.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Kick the FG, you're still down two scores. The FG does very little for you, but Earl the Reliable makes the catch you know he makes 99.9% of the time, and you're still in the fight.

  • You're right, I thought it was a 10 pt game at that point.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Sorry, Shady. Didn't see your retraction before I jumped in. My bad.

  • +1

  • In reply to Shady:

    The Saints went for it on 4th and 1 and they were up 10 ! Sean doesn't like FGs and or punts doe he? Ballsy coach.

  • Looks like a 7-9 team to me

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    You're crazy. You don't think they'll beat the G men and the Redskins next? They'll likely be 5-2 in two weeks. Then 2-7 from there? Don't think so.
    Trestman is learning on the jib and he's 3-2. With a new head coach, a realistic expectation is to be gaining traction in the second half of the season. If the Bears do that, they will be a threat late this season.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    Job

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    19=0 was crazy.

    vs. Giants. Worst team in the NFL, save Jax. 4-2
    at Redskins. Our trap game. 4-3
    at Packers. Let's see; Lions score 40 on us, 3 on Packers. 4-4
    vs Lions. Nice try; 4-5
    vs Ravens. Pride game? Not. 4-6
    at Rams. Rams suck. 5-6 in a squeaker
    at Vikings. Queens out for revenge. 5-7
    vs. Dallas. We don't have Peyton Manning 5-8
    at Browns. Bears win in an *upset* 6-8
    at Eagles. Fuck the dog killer and the rest of a pure shit team.
    vs Packers. Sing good night. 7-9

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    So the Bears are going to lose all four of their remaining divisional games, the Cowboys game, the Redskins game, the Redskins game and be underdogs in your world tonthe Browns. I don't even known why you bother to watch. The Lions score 40 on us
    and 3 in the Pack thereby we can't beat the Pack? So by your logic we would kill the Patriots, right since, the Bengals beat them today? Or did the Bengals just get lucky? You make no sense Dave. None. The defense played pretty well today against an offense that's better than Green Bay. Did you not see that? Trestman is finding his way with the with this team. New coach, first season, and still tied at 3-1 atop the division with the Lions coming to our place in the future. Did I mention the Packers lost to the fucking Bengals? How does that line up with your system of logic? Don't get you man. Bears lost a tough one today tons great team and you've got them picking at 20 in next year's draft.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    Excuse all of the type-o's. Droid won't let me edit on this piece of shit site tonight.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    At this stage, the Bears will be lucky to win the Browns game. I see 3 likely wins left on the schedule with 2 more probable wins coupled with 6 probable losses.

    8-8

    We just don't seem to be able to beat the good teams. Unfortunately, there's a lot of them still left on the schedule.

    Oh the cold hard truth of reality. Da pain, Da pain. Anyone got 50K?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x_QbVDlLbI

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    You go from 19-0 to this? Over an 8 point loss to one of the best teams in the league? What the hell Trac?

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    I'm down bro. I fell hard. Who is this team?

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    I see what you did there.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I'm subtle like that

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    You make it sound like they lost to a team that came in 0-4 instead of 4-0.

  • The penalty on Weems was horseshit.

  • the weems penalty was horseshit, the bullshit "holding" call on Tillman was horseshit, the "horsecollar" where DJ grabbed THE FRONT OF HIS JERSEY was horseshit

    Can't they cut out one goddamn car commercial to free up enough time to quickly review these bogus calls throughout the game?

  • Didn't see the replay but Weens seems close to drawing a PF every week so I presume he F'd up.

  • In reply to redline reb:

    He was trying to break up a fight and he got called for fighting. BS.

  • And the other got retaliated, should have been offsetting, at worst.

  • And the first two sacks of Culter were because Bushrod blew his assignment.

    DB blitzes, Bushrod blocks down. THERE WAS NO ONE OUTSIDE BUSHROD, NO BACK IN THE BACKFIELD. The LT HAS to get the outside rusher, period.

    The strip-sack? Also Bushrod's man.

  • Bleed, that explanation gets in the way of the "Cutler holds onto the ball too long" narrative and you must immediately recant.

  • We haven't discussed Bushrod, I haven't got any games on the PC except for the Bengals game, I'm going back to watch it to focus on him. Something's wrong here. I' wonder if he's an issue. I don't want Orlando Pace II

  • Anyone here wishing Izzy and Chandler Jones were on the fucking roster right now?

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Yes

  • Trying to recap the game and a pop up 1:30 commercial box (with no exit button on it) is covering up the OKAY button on the

    "Thanks for commenting. Before your message appears, an administrator will have to approve it."

    That's it, i'm out. see you in a month on the new site.

    Chicago Now, go fuck yourself. Gnome? Suck a dick.

  • The Bears are stuck in mediocre hell for the foreseeable future. Which to me is about the worse place to be in sports. Either be good or trainwreck bad ( for drafting purposes) 8 and 8 is what kills ya..

  • In reply to Justin:

    you sound like a pussy cubs fan.

  • In reply to Justin:

    the goal is to be in the playoffs and you don't need to go 16-0 to go to the playoffs and advance. You take your fantasy football pussy cubs rebuild mindset and pound sand.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Back on those rum and cokes again?

  • In reply to Shady:

    no, i watched this one with a cold beer and some wings.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    I'm with you Waffle. I don't know why everyone gets so negative. It's frustrating, I get it. But We're still first in our division, we're still adjusting to the new staff, and we have talent everywhere. It's not about who looks unbeatable in Sept/Oct. It's about peaking in December/January. The NFL is a tough mistress. Every week is a battle. We're in the fight and we're far from dead.

    Fair weather fans: GET FUCKED.

  • I agree. The Saints at this point are the best team in the NFC so I'm really not that disappointed by today's loss. No good reason to be disillusioned yet either...

  • Don't think we are first Doc, don't the Lions have the tie-breaker? And the Pack have just beaten the Lions ....

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Fuck off Waffle you dirty bitch. Just because I don't agree with anything you're saying doesn't make it your job to be an ass. I think the Bears are going to be picking around 17-20 every year and that's a shitty place IMO. Suck a dick waffle. Nothing fair weather about my thoughts. This place is like a cult, and if you didn't get together and gangbang all the regulars you're a misfit.

  • The Lions put up 9 points on the Packers, admittedly without Megatron. Denver 51 Dallas 48. FML.

    Let us spare the excuses this week though.

    The O-line was our problem coming into the season and it remains so. We will continue to beat bad teams and continue to lose to good ones. We are not a very good football team, and that's okay, for we are not a very bad football team either. Emery gets at least three years to put it all together - that's fair.

    Play of the game for me? The Defensive captain bursting over the line offsides on 4th and 1. You're the one guy on the field that just isn't supposed to do that, Lance.

    Eli is getting it in the face next week though, I know that much.

  • One thought though.

    If Matt Forte cannot block then he does not belong on the field. We need complete backs.

    That is all.

  • Jesus.

    I'm bookmarking this fucking page and reposting it in six weeks. Fuck all of you guys.
    (Love you though Irish.)

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    That is an uncalled for response.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I'm sorry.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    Mwah!
    You cave to easily man!
    And address him as 'Sir'.

  • That was just for Al

  • is there a play in particular you're talking about?

  • Josh Freeman to the Vikings.

  • Josh Freeman coming to Chicago!

    On Dec 1, with the Vikings.

    (see what I did there?)

  • I feel a rapin' comin' on ! Ponder looks like Montana against Freeman ...

  • I'm more frustrated than disappointed,. The Saints are not exdactly chopped liver .Hopefully, the offense will soon begin to bring some of that 4th Quarter Gusto to the game a lot sooner.

    Yes, The Packers, for the moment, look like the best team in the division.
    They held the Lions to 1 TD.

    In Green Bay.

    Without Megatron.

    Coming off their bye and the Lions coming of a very emotional division win.

    Ad the star od the game was Mason Crosby...?

    Pack has issues at OT that are not getting better.

    The Clay Man busted his thumb today.

    The NFL.

    Week. To. Week.

    The Cowboys score what/ 16 against the Chiefs but put up 48 on Denver?

    Alshon Jeffrey. Wow.
    -
    -
    -
    Double wow.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    +1 on the first paragraph.

    That's thumbthing about Fabio. Hope he can still brush his hair. Who am I kidding? Rodgers probably brushes it most of the time.

    Six teams have a better record than the Bears.

  • I again didn't see ANY of the game, but Murph and more so Doc kept me up to date via text. Thanks gents (kinda thanks murph. hee hee)

    Here's my take....

    I thought that if things went bad, which it sounded like (murph), I was expecting the saints to hang 40+ on us.

    When I checked my phone and saw it was only 23 (at the time) I was pretty pumped. Saints are tough. We have some issue to work out. Like Doc said, let's see how the second half goes boys. War's not over juuust yet.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Our D didn't look terrible MB, although I didn't watch the end of it. Mostly it looked like the old Bears' OL. Cutty drops back and gets swamped in a deluge of Saints - just like the last time they beat us.

    Alshon looked studly - 20 FF pts last week ... 27 pts this week

    The game wasn't hard to watch cos I always expected an L in the column this week, but some thing sprang to mind.

    We don't seem to have the ability to set up nice screens like the Saints do.

    We made Rob Ryan look like a genius, which he's not.

    Cutty needs to learn to accept that when teams blitz against us that the ball is not going 50 yards downfield. Recognize the blitz and dump it off. Stop trying to be smart cos you're not.

    Hold the ball with two fucking hands, Jay - especially when trying to avoid a sack.

    But mostly, the O-line is not fixed, it just looked like it was , and teams are leaving Garza on an island where he has nobody to block, and you've got 5 or 6 guys being blocked by 4 - he needs to recognize that and go knock someone the fuck out IMHO.

    Matt is a liability in pass pro, he just can't do it.

    We need to do to the Giants what the Saints D-Co did to us, and dial it up. David Bass sighting, but let's get Greene and Washington in the rotation too.

  • Forte is the best blocking RB we have on the roster. He played like shit all around yesterday. I think he was up all night on Saturday muff diving.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah I wasn't too complete yesterday. That was an end of the first half text and I was frustrated beyond belief. We all expect improvement without any regression. Saints are a great team, but its one we all thought was going to go our way. I have faith it's all going to come together, Bear Down!

  • Gotta win the next 2. Not sure we can without some sort of pass rush. McClellin is too damn lil to be out there. Put him on the punt team or somewhere where his lack of girth will actually benefit the team. We also need some sort of huge fat boy DL in there taking on the linemen and allow our LBs to make some plays.

  • New day, new perspective.

    For those of you who knee jerk those of us who are thoroughly disappointed in yesterdays loss, please consider this.

    1. Because some of us may sound negative due to the loss, it doesn't mean we are anti-Bear. It just means that we smell a whiff of failure and we don't like it.

    2. It's true, we have a new regime, new scheme's and new players finding their sea legs but that doesn't mean all of the above will translate into a good year. I for one thought that the Bears were better than we seem to be at this stage in the game. We are 2 plays away from being 1-4. That is what some of us are getting a sniff of.

    3. Justin posted a comment and was savaged for it. Please try not to devour each other. I know a loss sucks but we can do better than that.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    He was devoured because he takes that pussy mindset of "if we're not perfect then scrap it and get a high first round pick".

    Ask the fucking Giants what it's like to struggle during the regular season and then come together to make a playoff and superbowl run.

    His post was cowardly and speaks to a cowardly mindset and that is why it was devoured. I like my Bears fans with a little more grit if you know what I mean.

  • This article is probably a fair assessment. The Bears most likely will finish somewhere between 9-7 and 10-6 according to this dude.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4686822/5-things-we-learned-vs-saints

    I struggle with 10-6 because I was really hoping for 12-4 min. That is would we will need to have any shot at home field. Not that the Bears can pull off some post season surprises if they get in, just that it makes their road just a little bit easier. I so hate playing second fiddle to the Cheese.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    yeesh. bad typing. not that the bears can't pull off some post season surprises. I should change my name to the waffle master. lol.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Home field is gone baby, and we're not really a playoff team anyway. Both lines are weak. One more draft. Losing Pep and maybe Briggs will free up some cash for FA too.

    But we're not going to the dance this year. There's 4 or 5 teams in the NFC alone that are better than us. It's a shame really because the wheels are off the Broncos D. When Tony Romo is hanging 5 on you ...

  • sounds good, then feel free to take a leave of absence for the rest of the year and we'll see you next July. See ya!!!

  • This team is actually eerily similar to the team that went to the NFC Championship game if you look at it close, all we have done is trade some pas rush for pass-protection.

    To me though, Opponents have been exposing the weaknesses they've seen on tape and The Bears are still getting their act together. They've got a long way to go still, but if they can weather the storm they ARE a legit playoff team.

    We have a top-3 QB in the NFC and that's said straight-faced with no bias. Most of the greats are on the other side of the NFL. What we need the Bears to do is stay at the very least close in games.

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    Cutty *may* be among the top 3 QBs - what do we think of Russell/RGIII ? But we're not among the top 3 teams. I've got the Saints, Packers, Hawks clearly ahead .. .Detroit beat us ... Dallas hung 48 points on the Broncos and almost beat the best team in the NFL if Romo doesn't shit the bed on that last drive, just sayin'. The Niners just kicked the shit out of the Texans.

    But there's NO WAY we go to NOLA or Seattle in the playoffs and win there. Definitely no way we beat the Broncos when Miller and Bailey are back on the field.

    Another good draft and a few good off-season trades and we're in position.

    We need a Center. We need a dominant 3-T. We need a very decent tall corner. We need a safety for MB. They're all expensive so they need to be drafted.

    Where do we get picks?

    Ahem. We trade Matt. No tears. Running backs grow on trees and he ain't all that. This is not Neal Anderson, never mind being in the same league as the GOAT. Two MCL surgeries later, the dude isn't going to get any better. Cash him in while he's worth something - somebody will over-pay if we deal him this year. if you can't block, or you can't bang it up the middle, then you don't get the big bucks, sorry. We can draft some kid, or maybe Michael Ford fulfills the promise he's shown in flashes and before anyone starts bitching about ST .... your starting running back does not belong on ST anyway.

    Cleveland did a smart thing. Maybe we get a second or a second and a fourth for Matt - we package some lower picks so perhaps we end up with a 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd round picks next year - retool the team nicely with that, no?

    We say bye-bye to Pep. That's 12M a year, plus Matt's 8M. we say bye bye to Henry or give him 4.5M. Either way, we'll have 20M to get a couple of very decent FAs.

    I've read silly talk about getting rid of Brandon seeing as we have our future #1 in Alshon progressing nicely. I say no. They look really nice on opposite sides of the field. You've got to pay the talent sometime.

    Matt was just a product of a system, we're not talking some legendary talent here. This is bidniz.

  • Matt is a more complete back that Neal Anderson ever was. Your football knowledge ends at 1991.

  • Now that's bullshit Coach. Forte isn't in the same league - Neal turned the corner on you and he was GONE. I don't care what the stats say.

  • And it's about '93 with the memory thing ....

  • I have to agree with most of what you said, dump Peppers, we can pay someone off the street a lot less to take up space on the field.

    I say trade Forte if the value is there but I wouldn't just give him away. He is a decent back but the fact of the matter is I am 6'0 190 lbs and I feel like I could arm tackle the guy. I remember a couple of years ago when Bears fans were talking about him being in the argument for best in the league-which was a joke then as it is now.

    I agree that there's not much of a chance of going to NO or SEA and winning, although I wouldn't say 0%. But as far as the QBs you mentioned, there's no way you can say that RG3 is better than Cutler. I think Wilson is right there, and obviously the Saints and the Packers are top-tier atm.( I doubt any of us here would trade Cutler straight-up for Romo, and I personally wouldn't do it for the Lesbian either)

    Who is talking about getting rid of Marshall? They need a slap upside the head.

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    Only thinking in terms of mobile QBs who do the legwork. Russell doesn't throw a lot - neither does Kaepernick - but you can get a lot done with the old pins. Even old Fitzy had about 8 rushes this week I think.

  • fun fact:

    watch the game again. Tubby Rex, Buddy's kid - ran the 46 against us. At least at times they clearly had the 46 formation lined up, both OLBs on one side, safety down the other side.

    Irony-ism.

  • Holy crap. The Bears' record for single game receiving yards belongs to .... Alshon Jeffrey ! Wow.

    Cutty put up 358. Okay. I guess it wasn't all bad, Saints have a pretty good pass D.

    Bet you guys don't know who held the previousrecord. I never heard of him anyway ....

  • It's sad that you are obsessed with Jim fucking McMahon but don't know who Harlon Hill is. I'll give you a semi pass because you're an Ex-pat Irishman in Thailand but it should also be a subtle reminder that when you pound home your thoughts on Bears players you need to think about the context a little more.

    You said you want Khaseem Greene in the fucking game. Well guess what, that means that James Anderson has to come out. No fucking thank you.

    You want a rookie LB to play MIke on a team with a shitty and injured D line and average safeties. No fucking thank you.

    You want Cornelius Washington to be in the game but he couldn't do shit against scrubs in the preseason. No fucking thank you.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Did some research because even I wasn't old enough to see him play.

    Harlon Hill, from Florence State Teachers College (Now North Alanama)accomplished his 214 yards in 1954 on 7 catches, 4 for TDs, in a win against the 49ers. He caught 2 of the TDs from Ed Brown and the other 2 from George Blanda. I have a DVD with highlights of that game.

    Hill was on his way to a Hall of Fame career when the boy from the Alabama sticks discovered booze.

    Drinking, plus back & ankle injuries, cut his NFL career short.

    To his credit, he dried himself out and went into education and became a highly respected teacher and eventually a principal.

    The award for the top player in Division II Football is named for him.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Hands up who knew who Harlon Hill was?

    Why does James have to come out? I was thinking put the fire under Lance a little, or get Greene to put his hand on the ground - they have CD doing it and he's not exactly greased lightning. Pep or Wooten have to come off sometimes.

    It doesn't matter who Washington was playing against in the PS, he's fast. He can only get better by playing, right?

    Brian Urlacher became our Mike in the third game of his rookie season, so there's that.

    I don't think we have a lot to lose at this point, the pass rush just isn't there.

  • Most of the yardage was in garbage time. Cutler has thrown for 300+ yards in the past two games because opposing defenses went into "prevent" mode when the games were out of reach. Empty yards.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Trestman simply fucked up in the first half and let the Saints D dictate the pace just like he fucked up against Detroit.

    Do you think Sean Payton knows what he's doing when he has Brees throwing for 6-7 yards almost every single first down? Do you think it's a coincidence that Jimmy Graham catches 6 for 95yds in the first half and Martellus Bennett is 1 for 3yds? Do you think the Bears would benefit from calling plays designed to push the pace to offset the D pressure like we did in the first drive of the Detroit game and then inexplicably didn't do until the 4th quarter or waited until the 2nd half to do against the Saints?

    Trestman has the weapons and quarterback to run that Saints type offense in every quarter yet he continually strays away from the path of least resistance for some unknown fucking reason.

    The fact that they didn't target M.Bennett, Jeffrey or Marshall on short and mid routes that are almost uncoverable for guys that size is fucking mind numbing to me.

    At the very least run the beasts down the field once in a while and open it up for Forte underneath for gods fucking sake.

    Line up Marshall in the slot TE position once in a while and make a fucking LB cover him. More M.Bennett in the seam please for gods fucking sake.

    Jesus, it's not fucking rocket science Trestman.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Agreed. I thought this guy was supposed to have an offensive mind. Sean Payton certainly does - he just loves those 4th and 1s.

    From the Bears highlights on NFL.com : About 1:25 in ... look at the screen that's set up in front of the runner.

    www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000258267/article/brandon-marshall-frustrated-by-bears-losing-streak

  • In reply to Shady:

    Also, you can't be in prevent and give up a 60yard pass. Watch the game again. At no point were they in prevent.

  • In reply to Shady:

    All good in fantasy Shady - I think he outscored Drew.

    And nice one Al, Hill sounds like he was an interesting guy.

  • can we all agree that the steelers game was an aberration as far as hester goes? he had opportunities yesterday - on both KR and PR - and didn't really do much of anything.

  • This team needs a short week.

    Beat the Giants on Thursday, and have 10 days to game plan the Redskins. Beat them, and have 14 days to game plan the Packers.

    Let the other guys panic.

  • In reply to Viva:

    Pulling out that meaningless stat again - coming off a short week against a team with a worse record pretty much spells victory.

    Surely we cannot lose against the Eli-led 0-5 Giants. Then again, let's see who's playing on the DL for us first. Let's see if we have one ...

  • If Collins is done for the season this team is going to have serious trouble staying above water.

    The injury to Collins and Melton were eerily similar. Both guys injured themselves while planting their left leg in the Soldier Field turf trying to rush the passer.

    The Bears have always contended their "real" football surface was safer than any other in the game, but how the hell can you have two almost identical injuries resulting from an unstable plant leg and still call it a safe surface? It's still a fucking joke.

  • In reply to Shady:

    It was slippery out there, pre-game the sideline reporter showed the Saints were changing into molded cleats from snap-on.

    The give in the turf causes the plant leg to slide, the flex hits the leg, these big men can't sustain the side to side slide at 300 lbs, and the ACL tears.

    The irony is the Bears turf is the most historical, realistic turf for how people used to play. Now we need synthetic chemical surfaces that approximate velcro mixed with post-it not sticky just to keep these overblown monsters upright.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    you can tell that Collins and Melton both are carrying way too much weight. Melton's knees now bend inwards when he walks. Compare that to him when he was 260 and a monster at Texas. He was born to be 230-250 not 295 or 300.

    Collins is a tub. Easily carrying an extra 75 to 100 of fat. He was a knee injury waiting to happen.

    Kyle Long is genetically supposed to be that big. He looks fucking indestructible and unless he gets rolled up on severely I can never imagine him getting injured like that.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Colston is a big guy and he spent half the game on his ass from falling over on that turf.

  • In reply to Shady:

    turf stopped the saints on a couple of third and shorts. so there's that little silver lining. but i suppose i'd rather give up those first downs and have henry/collins than the other way around.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Melton was injured in Heinz Field in Pittsburgh, Shady.

    Those innocuous-looking, but actually serious, knee injuires happen on football fields of all kinds, everywhere.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    You're right Al, HenMel went down on Sunday night in the Burgh. I would maintain, however, that the Bears still play on one of, if not the worst surface in the league. For a team looking to rebuild with an offensive identity, the playing surface doesn't facilitate the transition. I understand there are issues with the Park District, but the team needs to figure out a way to fix the surface to get the most out of a new offense.

    The NFL's competition committe were planning on creating standards for the playing surfaces in the league mainly because of Soldier Field and FedEx Field in Landover.

  • In reply to Shady:

    It's just sad that one of the oldest teams in the NFL, in the second biggest market,doesn't have their own stadium.

  • Couple observations- The offense seems to run much more efficiently when they're in the 2 minute drill. In the second qtr Jay marched the boys down the field with just one huddle. Why not start running no huddle all the time ala Payton?
    And yes Chicken Dinner has a crazy looking helmet on. He looks like the son of Donald R Deccico.
    I place this loss squarely on the offense. The defense kept us in the game thw whoel time, had some key stops and didnt give up any huge plays save one to Jimmy Grahm. This offense needs to get rolling and I think they will.

    Have heart gentlemen and Bear down!

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    Its wonderful game for Lance Briggs played. New Orleans Saints..

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