Jay Cutler: League's Most Valuable Player Through Three Weeks

Jay Cutler: League's Most Valuable Player Through Three Weeks

I was actually taken aback while reading Peter King's MMQB column:

Offensive rookie of the year? This morning, it’s Chicago guard Kyle Long. The human sack machine, Jay Cutler, has been sacked three times in three games.

King may be right but he knows as well as anyone that a right guard is not going to win Rookie of the Year. I'm not a savvy enough analyzer of offensive lines to tell you why Long is better than Jordan Mills, never mind the rest of the rookie class, but King's statement is a clear indication the national media got it wrong on draft night with their misguided criticism of the Long selection.

The comment got me thinking about something I usually don't spend ten seconds on: awards. While I don't know if Long has been Offensive ROY to this point, I do know that no player, none, not even Peyton Manning, has been more valuable to his team through three games than Bears quarterback Jay Cutler.

Now before people start with the Peyton Manning is blah and Tom Brady is blah blah and Calvin Johnson is so much blah blah blah, stop. Take a breath. Maybe a sip of Courvoisier. If weed is your thing, smoke some. I am not arguing Jay Cutler is the best player in the sport. I am not arguing Jay Cutler is the best quarterback in the sport. Hell, I'm not even arguing Jay Cutler is the best player on the Bears. He's none of those things.

What I am arguing is Cutler's value to the Chicago Bears through the first three games of the 2013 season has been greater than the value of any of other player in this league to his team. The reason is not his solid statistics or even his consistent overall performance. (Both are of course factors.) The reason, the primary reason, is actually something out of his control: circumstance.

Against the Cincinnati Bengals, the Bears needed six from their quarterback in the fourth quarter to keep from dropping their home opener. “That was a laser,” Phil Simms said just after Cutler hit Brandon Marshall in the front left corner of the end zone. (The Packers needed the same against the Bengals Sunday. Their QB could not deliver.)

3rd and 10. Minnesota Sixteen yard line. Sixteen seconds remaining. Cutler knows he has two throws to beat the Vikings. Two throws to beat a division rival at home. He only needed one, a textbook back shoulder end zone toss to Martellus Bennett. 2-0.

The Bears didn’t NEED a touchdown from their QB against the Pittsburgh Steelers - just a few first downs as they nursed a 27-23 lead. Nobody watching the game with around nine minutes remaining believed the Bears could keep Pittsburgh from scoring essentially at will. The game was on the offense. On the quarterback.

After two failed runs, third and ten. Cutler stepped up from pressure, ran to the stick and lowered his shoulder to cement the first down.

Three plays later, on another pressure-packed third down, he launched a beautiful, back-shoulder bomb to a shrouded-by-Ike Taylor Brandon Marshall.

Three plays later, on yet another angst-addled third down, Cutler and Earl Bennett executed one of the best throw-and-catch moments of this young NFL season for the decisive touchdown. Music City rejoiced.

Circumstances. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and Russell Wilson and Drew Brees haven't faced the same pressure week in and week out. Should a quarterback be rewarded for not blowing out his opponents? It is an argument worth having. But who would you vote for in the World Series MVP race? The guy who hit 7 home runs in the series or the guy who hit four home runs to break ties in the ninth innings of the wins? Isn't the difference between the current three-game seasons of Cutler and Manning the reason both MVP and Offensive POY exist?

Circumstances have determined Cutler be held under the bright light for questioning. They have determined he have the ball in his hand with the game on the line. And every single play the Bears have needed from their quarterback to win or cement a win he has made. Mark Potash Tweeted:

The Closer? In the last 5 pass plays of the #Bears' 3 games, Jay Cutler has a perfect 158.3 passer rating: 12-of-13, 208 yds, 3 TD, 0 INT.

Sure, call him the closer. It fits our little baseball motif. But with all due respect to the ball hawking defense and Matt Forte, you should also be calling him what he is: the reason the Bears are off to a 3-0 start. And in my opinion that makes him the league's most valuable player heading into the fourth week.


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  • That "closer" stat is telling. Jay is clutch.

    So much so, I'm gonna start referring to him as "Clutch Cargo."


  • ha HA!

    well done bleed.

  • Oh, and first, bitches.

  • Jeff,

    You had me at, "Jay Cutler: League's Most Valuable Player"

  • Can not get excited about handing out MVP OF THE FIRST 3 WEEKS. Feels like a bit of a reach at this point. Maybe because the first major injury just hit home.

    3-0 is great.

    So was 7-1 last year.

    Then, PHFFT.

    Before that, SO was 7-3 with the hottest team in the NFL at the time .

    Then, PHFFT.

    You can only play who's on the schedule but the record of the Bears opponents this year is an aggregate 2-7 and the 2 wins in THAT equation, by the Bengals, are against teams that are 1-5.

    I do admire the committment Sunday night by Jay Cutler to take care of the football. You KNOW his inner Jay wanted to take about 6 or 7 move shots downfield. Instead, he kept his cool, putthat 50 yard back shoulder to Marshall where only Brandon coud get it. Likewise the strike to Earl Bennett which only Earl has a shot at.

    The Steelers had forced ZERO turnovers going into Sunday, a stat that SCREAMED to be changed but the Pittsburgers will fly to London (nice door prize, eh? Yuck.) with that goose egg intact.

    Keep growing, Bears. Just keep growing.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    agree with this.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Agree with Al, although I think the record don't tell the whole story.

    The Bengals probably played better than the Bears until the 4th quarter, then they self destructed and we played lights out. But they're a good team and 2-1 is about right. But one of the teams they beat are the Packers - say what you want, but the Pack are much better than the 1-5 record indicates. Just like last year, their early season schedule has been tough.

    And the Vikings played us really well. Division games don't go like other games - the teams know each other too well, particularly the defenses. The Viking and Lions are capable of a lot more against the Bears than they are against, say, the Broncos. And the same has been true for us against the Pack in the past few years when we have otherwise struggled.

    Beating the Steelers was beating up on a weak team, but we won that game the way we were supposed to - we held a lead the entire contest and finished with 40 points.

    My only wish is that our defense could allow fewer points (turnovers have been great as ever). That will come if the pass rush comes together. If we can't get our pass rush working right, we're not going to survive the playoffs.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    The Packers are 1-5?!?!?!

    I'll take that!

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    The Viking splay pretty well against the Bears but, apparently, came away with a hangover.

    Listened to the end of their game Sunday and their play-by-play guy, Paull Allen, described it as one of the sloppiest games he'd ever seen.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    "splay" - what an excellent freudian slip, Al.

  • Sure sounds good to me, I'll buy what you're selling.


    Perhaps Kristin and the baby Cutlet were the best things to happen to Jay. That combined with Bushrod, Slauce, Mills and Long of course.

  • The most valuable player on the Bears is whoever upstairs told Trestman to challenge the out of bounds call on the basis that Earl Bennett got his toe somehow into the endzone.

    Of course, Cutler had to get the ball to Bennett first.

  • In reply to jack:

    They missed the first Bush effort on the goal-line though. That was a TD.

  • i think they knew that was a TD, but figured, "shit. 2nd and goal from the 1? we've got this. no need to waste the challenge."

    in the end, they did have it. but shit, guys, don't make us sweat so hard.

  • In reply to jack:

    Show of hands:

    Lovie would have already been out of timeouts and couldn't have challenged the Bennett catch.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    i appreciate the sentiment, but so far this iteration of the bears is terrible with timeouts. so let's not go drawing that comparison just yet.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Whoa, whoa whoa whoa!!! Lovie probably would have had time outs and wouldn't have challenged Bennett's catch anyway.

  • In reply to Scharfinator:

    Since Lovie had an atrocious record on challenges, probably indicating that he didn't have someone check upstairs before throwing the flag, I vote for that he would have been out of challenges by the time of the Bennett play.

    Neither coach (or maybe Cutler) is showing much on time out management.

  • I'll tell you what, i'm sick and tired of the argument that consists of comparing the records of the teams that the Bears beat.

    Look at the reasons why the teams fucking sputtered out at the end of 2011 and 2012 before you wait for the other shoe to drop on this season Al.

    In 2011 it took our starting quarterback going down to injury and no one else being able to steer the piece of shit offense to even 1 or 2 victories against the pitiful AFC West at the time.

    In 2012 it took the most incredible combination of bad luck, Minny good luck, AP having the best season of his career coming off of a crazy knee injury, a brutal Seahawks game that resulted in the league sending a fucking "I'm so sorry" letter to the Bears for the game changing penalties not called and 3 perfectly dropped touchdown passes not to at least go 11-5. We were the only 10-6 team out of THIRTEEN to not go to the playoffs.

    This year we have the horses upfront, the scheme to reduce pressures, sacks and turnovers and the weapons to succeed.

    It's different and the result will be different. We're about to be 4-0.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    for me it's the PTSD of angelo and lovie that has me really worried that we're going to play a packers or a saints and we're going to get fucking destroyed because of how sloppy we can sometimes be between the brilliant spots.

    Maybe it's just muscle memory (10 fucking years of it), but if we beat the packers and the saints in strong fashion over the next month, I will be FULLY on the bears to the SB bandwagon this year.

    I think we have the coaching and the weapons on the field (mostly... I'm looking at you conte... hee hee dave) to make that shit happen, we just need to keep cleaning up the messy bits. Bearcccccceeeee!

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Waffle, I was just asking on the other thread ....

    Do Seattle and Denver look like a value double or what?

    Denver (at home) are OFF to Philly.

    Philly are the top rushers, but they're up against the top rush defense. both give up a lot of passing yards, but the Broncos hold their opposing QBs to 75 QBR, Philly allow 96 QBRs.

    Seattle are only 3 point favorites to beat Houston.

    Surprisingly both teams match up quite evenly on paper, but one of them is sucking and the other looks like a contender.

    What's the catch?

  • In reply to Waffle:

    How do the 9th worst passing defense, us, beat the #2 passing offense with a not-so-good pass rush? Not saying we won't win, but putting money on it is merely hoping. Relying on more picks? Risky.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    The other problem with that logic is the Heisenberg principle - they're losing because we're f-cking beating them!

  • Scratching my head here. Jefe, have you been at the blue Heisenberg?

    I love Jay, fel the opposite for PM, but whoa Nelly ....

    Are Denver 3-0 without Peyton? Let's take off the navy blue and burnt orange sunshades here. As much as it pains me, there can be no other answer - certainly in the area of QB - than old turtlehead himself.

    He's averaging 4 TD passes and 374 yards per game. The TDs are an NFL record. Zero interceptions. Zero. That's 12 TDs and no picks.
    He has a rating of 134. No-one is even close. Russel Wilson and er .... Philip Rivers .. .are joint second on 116.

    Jay? 6 TDs and 3 interceptions, rated 10th in the NFL on 94. That's 40 points lower than Manning.

    (bites own knuckle)

    Nobody handles their offense like turtlehead.

    The Elite Eli ? 5 TDs ... and wait for it ..... NINE INTERCEPTIONS ... with a whopping 66 QBR.

  • The Giants O-line is a sieve...and their D-line can't get to anybody, so opposing defenses are free to tee off on Eli all day. I don't like him, but they are falling apart around their QB.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    But when Cutty had no O-line every non-Bear fan said it was because he sucked. Eli does the same thing and it's on the guys around him, not on him?

  • And you believed what they were saying?
    That's my point.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    No, but he's had to get the decision-making thing solved. He's made some progress in that I think. Some.

  • The 'pass' to Manieri was basically putting it up for grabs. It was a 15 yard Hail Mary and one of the more spectacularly bad choices I've ever seen. That's what Jay does sometimes, Peyton doesn't. It's patently ridiculous to say he's the MVP so far, he's not close in any measurables - and I get that it's not all about measurables, but comebacks aren't required if you do it properly in the first place.

    I'm not having a go at Cutty here, but credit where credit's due ...
    (headbutts wall)
    .... but Peyton is a better QB.

    Let me end on a positive ... there is no way that Manning ever runs for that first down where cutty put the hurt on that dude, there is a limit to what he will do for his team. He will never put his team before his body a la McMahon/Cutler.

  • Agree with this. Manning is in another fucking universe right now. It's kinda sick, but amazing to watch. the guy set up camp in the zone this year, and he ain't leaving.

  • Did you notice Manning ran two pass plays inside the 5 last night, including the same fucking play that was tipped and intercepted? Of course not, because it worked and nobody said shit about not running the ball on the goal line.

    Everyone can continue to slobber on Manning's knob until he comes up short in the playoffs again while Cutler continues to be fucking clutch.

    I'll take the gutty, tough as nails clutch QB over some fair weather regular season front runner any day.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I think he's a robot... or an alien.

    just saying.

  • In reply to Shady:

    That's the beef with Manning. The playoffs. Once the heat is on ....

  • "That's what Jay does sometimes, Peyton doesn't"

    Correction. Peyton doesn't do it in the regular season against the likes of the Raiders. In the post-season, he chokes more than a midget hooker at a porn party.

    Don't believe me? This is from just last year.


  • For a moment there, I thought we were going to get a link to midget pr0n.

  • Can't agree with this, Jeff. Peyton Manning is clearly the NFL's MVP, punishing him because he's never played poorly and wasn't put in a position to rescue his team doesn't wash. Great that Cutler is coming through, and he's definitely been clutch when he had to be, but average play in the first halves are a big reason why the Bears needed him in the 4th quarter.

  • In reply to Jimmy Greenfield:

    1) Tend to agree with the gnome on this (dude, that should totally be your avatar).

    2) My best troll impressions: Know who's not he league MVP? ChicagoNow Technical Support!

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Hahahahahaha... I totally wrote something out like, thanks for commenting jimmy but the code needs tons of work so there's that.

    Then I felt bad for jimmy as he's merely the tip of the spear.

    Nice to see the pious one among us bring the wood.

  • anybody feel like some cold pizza?

  • In reply to Nate Burleson:

    Hahahahahahahaha.... GP!!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Peter King was incorrect FWIW .. Eli has thrown 9 picks not 8.

  • In reply to Nate Burleson:

    Shit, and I missed this! Well played, sir.

  • I have to admit I'm not a huge bears fan but they do look good this year. More put together than I've seen in years although I'm nervous to see how they pick themselves up after losing Melton. I really dig the play calling. It seems to energize them. All that being said? Two words....


  • In reply to mauractstankus:

    Jeff, there's the extra views - they're coming from Peyton Manning fans!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I think it's actually eli.

    You play for the Giants eli, you can't be an open peyton sycophant like that... have some self-respect for christ's sake.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah Eli, when you're not even the best QB in your own family ,,,,

  • Eli's not even the 3rd best QB in his family

  • In reply to bearfantillend:

    His mom is a better QB? That seems a little harsh.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    1st Peyton
    2nd Archie
    3rd Cooper
    4th Eli

    not going to go as far as putting his mom ahead of him.

  • In reply to mauractstankus:

    If you are saying that Peyton is the hands now winner for MVP, I have to say it is way too early to say who the winner will be. I am a Peyton fan, but not a Broncos Fan, such talk is way to premature

  • Don't know if anyone else mentioned this, but Nate Burleson busted his arm in two places in a car accident.
    That sucks for the Lions' receiver depth.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Was he drunk?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    He didn't really have a car accident. Mike Ditka gave him a stern look and broke his arm in two places. Little trick he learned from his old pal Chuck Norris.

  • COACH!!!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    where in thee fuck have you been?

    You got married didn't you?


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No, still not married. Or engaged. But I let her move in with me. 1 step at a time. Had to hop in for Detroit week. I fucking hate that team/city with a passion. Did anyone see Shwartzkoff rage-throw his headset after a victory last week? What a fucking jackass.

  • That douche can't even win a fucking hard fought game without being a fucking tool.
    Throwing the headset was the ultimate sign of a guy who won't ever win with consistency and doesn't know how to act like he's been there or done it before.

    Imagine Lovie or Trestman acting like that. They wouldn't because they were pros. Imagine Tony Dungy or Hank Stram doing that. It's fucking embarrassing is what it is.

    Imagine how embarrassed his wife must be when she has to admit that he lets him feverishly try to hump her and the frustration that he feels when she answers for the 4th time that she's "not close but it feels good and you just finish honey....."

  • In reply to Waffle:

    I saw him throw his headset and just sat there, stunned for a moment.

    What kind of a prick has that little self discipline? OH WAIT, THE COACH WHO HAS PLAYERS STOMP ON OPPOSING TEAMS.

    It's an epidemic in Detroit, from the top down.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Ouch. Burleson had a BIG catch in their game Sunday.

  • I can't think of anything more ridiculous at this point in the year, but here it is for your enjoyment


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That guy is high. Not only for doing a mock draft in Week 4 of the regular season, but more importantly, for thinking the Bears need a TE #1. Sure, pair a good TE with BU and that would be awesome, but the defense is getting older and older, and anyone with any knowledge of the Bears knows that the D-Line and D-Backs are the priority this offseason.

  • yuuuuuup.

    dl in 1, FS in 2...

    or if we can pick up a big name FA DL, go DB in 1 and 2.

    FS in 1, corner in 2, OL in 3, LB in 4, OL in 5, DB in 6, Whatevs.

    Bang Bang!

  • Jimmy Graham as a Bear? FA next year. Ditch Pep and have Uni and Graham as bookends? Beast, Uni and JG. Unstoppable.

  • Jimmy Graham is going to get paid wide receiver money next year. Star wide receiver money. Love to have him, absolutely stunned if we could afford him.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    We need a pass rushing DE and a big body DT badly and maybe even a safety. I think we're going to be set on offense. The Peppers and Peanut situation is not going to end well.

  • In reply to Waffle:


    Agree about pep, not sure about the nut.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    What are the odds we go 3-4?

  • I always view "MVP" as the guy who is the most important to his team. Not the best player in the league, but the guy whose team would be most fucked if his team lost him.

    Pey-pey is damned good, and on a roll this year. But Denver has a good offensive system and a very good defense. The Bears without Clutch Cargo? 0-3 and sinking fast.

    That's the argument. I'm not sure I totally buy it. Ultimately, I think Pey-pey has been so astronomically good, he blows the MVP-as-most-critical-guy-on-team argument out of the water.

    Now, if you want to talk about NFC MVP, I wouldn't argue... that's Clutch Cargo.

  • The obliteration, of that DB was the best play Cutler has made as a Bear. It was the turning point in the game.

  • I'll go with Jeff on this one. Peyton Manning should be where he is. Jay on the other hand, comes out on the field and takes the team with him. In each of the last three games, especially the Steelers game, watch how Jay gets off the bench. He looks so deeply pissed off. Brandon catches that ball out of fear. That ball was thrown perfectly, and Marshall holds on as if his life depends on it. Balls bounced of BM's hands earlier in the game, but not that one. Then to piss Jay off even further, MT dials up another 1st and 2nd down vanilla run play. It is terrifying, but fun to watch.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynNJrP0h9V4&sns=tw

    Spice Adams!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:


  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Holy shit that was magical.

  • Damn... up to #4


    In my mind, if we beat the lions at home and the saints at soldier... we're on our way maingses.


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Slow down guys. Tough gmes against the Lions passing attack (and this Joique Bell guy is no slouch) and we all know what Drew Brees can do. I'm extremely worried about our DBs and pass rush. We're going to have to light it up on offense. I think Martellus, Pep and Peanut are hurting too.

  • Like I said, if we can beat those two I will feel much more comfortable about the sloppiness of Qs 2 and 3 last sunday

  • I'm not worried about or secondary as much as others.

    It's the same damn secondary from last year. The biggest difference is no pass rush.

    Remember a few years back when we had no pass rush? Peanut didn't go to any PBs, and Jennings was getting benched.

    Then, a pass rush, and what do you know? TWO PBS CBs and two starting safeties, who when they play together, cause turnovers.

    It's all about the pass rush.

    The Gmen had a shitty secondary, but when they beat the Pats, they just rushed 4 and didn't need all-pro guys back there.

    We're built the same way. But Pepp looks slow. Melton's done. Shea is only a 3rd down specialist, and Wooten - who knows?

    We're now forced to blitz more, and that's gonna lead to a lot more 300 yard passing games. High risk/reward scenarios, which is antithetical to the Lovie Smith cover-2 scheme we supposedly still run.

  • Agreed on all that, butch

  • AHHHHHH....

    how does that even happen!?!?!


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Looks like lady-hands.

  • not anymore.

  • SMH at Harrison. Again. Here the Bears are 5 ... with the Pats at 3! They've played EJ Manuel, Geno Smith and Josh Freeman.

    Interesting stat on the Bears though.

    "Since 2011, the Bears have scored 23 miscellaneous touchdowns, a category that includes all return and defensive scores; the next closest team has 14. That nine-touchdown difference is more than the total number of miscellaneous touchdowns scored by 15 different franchises over the same time period. The Pittsburgh Steelers, for example, have scored just three miscellaneous touchdowns since 2011."

  • Shady? (hee hee)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    what say ye?

  • Since 2011, I have had 2300 miscellaneous erections.

  • Fear boners?

  • I dont know that everyone was wrong on draft night, hell if Jordan Mills was our first round pick we would all be happy! We wanted somebody that could start and contribute and Long has filled that bill and filled it well. I think just getting rid of that POS JMarcus had a positive effect. Sometimes the people around you can drag you down. His poor play had an effect on the whole offense. Emerys first draft, first round, Chicken Dinner....MEH, Im totally unimpressed. Second draft, first pick, solid player and contributor so far. Its only three games but looking good so far. I still remember Chris Williams looking pretty good his first few games so I am cautiously optimistic. One huge difference between last and this year, Jay looks very much at ease in the pocket. His whole demeanor is different, and that in itself is a great thing.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    I'm really of the opinion that Chicken Dinner was a Lovie pick, not an Emery one.

  • In reply to Scharfinator:

    No way Emery gives Lovie that much power in his first draft. Consult, yes: decide, no.

    Emery owns the chicken dinner pick. Good or bad.

  • http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/23808801/the-week-in-overreactions-jay-cutler-is-finally-a-legit-franchise-qb

    Silly title for the article, but I still enjoyed it - especially this part:

    "In previous seasons, Cutler would spend the first 45 minutes getting his brains scrambled by mostly unblocked defensive ends and linebackers. There's something to be said for your quarterback having his wits about him during a critical late-game drive.

    So again, our original question: Can this last?

    Since Cutler arrived in 2009, here's how the the Bears have started -- and finished:
    2009: started 3-1, finished 7-9
    2010: started 3-0, finished 11-5 (made the playoffs for the only time in Cutler' tenure)
    2011: started 1-2, finished 8-8*
    2012: started 7-1, finished 10-6
    * The Bears were 7-3 with Cutler, who missed the final six weeks of the 2011 regular season with a thumb injury.

    So you can see why we're not quite ready to commandeer the Jay Cutler bandwagon. But despite the early returns, there's more encouraging news, via ProFootballFocus.com.

    Through the first two games, from the time Cutler takes the snap until the ball leaves his hand takes, on average, 2.7 seconds. That ranks 16th among starting quarterbacks.

    But here's where things get interesting: When Cutler gets the ball out in 2.5 seconds or less, he completes 74 percent of his throws and his passer rating is 102.9. When it's 2.6 seconds or more, he completion percentage drops to 63.0 and his passer rating falls to 87.7.

    Last season, Cutler averaged 2.79 seconds to throw. However, for balls that came out in less than 2.5 seconds, his completion percentage was 63.5 and his passer rating was 84.5. For 2.6 seconds or more, his completion percentage was 52.4 and his passer rating was 77.0.
    The takeaway: Trestman has had an immediate impact on Cutler's performance. Also not hurting: An offensive line playing extremely well, and a quarterback with new-found confidence."

  • In reply to Shady:

    I just got done reading that article when I came here, and now I get to read it all over again.

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  • In reply to Shady:


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  • In reply to Viva:

    Not gonna lie I'm a bit escared right now...


  • In reply to Shady:


  • I do not like Jim Schwartz. Nothing would scar my psyche more than having that assclown hand Trestman his first loss in the NFL.



    Da Trestman's 34
    Schwartz' 13

  • So far, the AFC is 11-3 against the NFC. Two of those losses come from Da Bears, the other is Chickens over Jags.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    The NFC finalists. Hard to believe the NIners and Bengals are ahead of us in the SB betting ....

  • My birfday's coming up in a few months... you know... in case you guys wanted to throw some cash in and get me sumfim


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Wow, I have been obsessed with the water-propelled jet pack ever since you posted that link a couple of years ago. But the Jet-Surf... I'd way rather have one of those. Fits in a trunk and probably (yeah,probably) doesn't cost $100k

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    Wooo Hoooo!!!

    So you're getting me one End?!?!?!?

  • Proving that the Lions are a cursed organization, Burleson crashed his car because a pizza fell off his front seat.
    I shit you not.

    Dude, it's a pizza, let it go.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    You're obviously not from Chicago.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Hey now...

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Says the guy who orders a veggie wrap at Portillo's.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I did not!!!
    First I was fat-sounding, now I'm a heathen!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Mwah! Heh heh heh heh ......

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:


  • In reply to Viva:

    he did?!? I don't remember that? I was just about to defend him.

    Well, he was probably just watching his weight since you called him portly.

    I believe it was, "well, you're much fatter than I imagined you"

    Or something similar.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Haha no no no, Posse is a lean mean motherfuxker, I said you sound a lot fatter than you look. When he would talk shit about his claymore kills on MW3 I always pictures him as a short, portly sumofabitch.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Hahahahahahaha.... so more like me then.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I had lots and lots and lots of those claymore kills though...

  • In reply to Shady:

    Dear Nate,

    It's called delivery.

    Mr. Ford

  • In reply to Viva:


  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Was it a Chicago Style Deep dish pizza by any chance? It's Karma. Thats what it is. Either that or Nate Burleson is a fucking dipshit...50/50 proposition.

  • Good thing they drafted Titus Young a couple of years a...oh, he did?
    For real?
    Never mind.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    They need to bring back Matt Millen to stockpile some more WR's...

  • In reply to Viva:

    It's sort of pathetic how bad they were at drafting them...we just didn't evidently believe in trying for most of the last decade.

  • Bears re-sign Cheta Ozugwu. Is it bad that Cheta is better than Shea? If Emery was honest with himself he'd just play Cheta over him. Don't pull an Angelo and keep him out just because it will look bad.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    which it would....it would look very very bad.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    How do you know Cheetah is better than Mc Lovin? I don't remember seeing him play, ever in a regular season game. It's cause he's black, isn't it. Racist!

  • Why are you ignoring me!?

    Where have you been!???

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • In reply to Shady:


  • I will merely give you this link that will show you why I fucking hate McClellin. This list is also why I threw a beer at my tv whilst he was picked:


  • While I am encouraged by Cutler's start, to say he's the MVP of the NFL right now is as assinine as the amount of time you talk about the punter Jeff.

  • I need help getting one very important question answered...

    Why in THEEEEEEEE fuck is that fucking little gnome tony Kornhieser still on anything to do with people other than his family having to see and/or listen to him.


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    so Jeff, If there was a Super Bowl with the Bears and Broncos ( sigh) would you pick Cutler or Peyton to be stronger?

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