Chicago Bears at Detroit Lions Game Thread

Chicago Bears at Detroit Lions Game Thread

Final thoughts:

  • If the Bears win this game there will be a legitimate buzz around this team as they head back home for their next two against the Saints and Giants. If they split those games they'd be 5-1 with ten days off to prepare for an awful Redskins defense. The schedule gets progressively more difficult as the year goes on but this would be an undeniably brilliant start.
  • Root for the Texans to beat the Seahawks. If the Seahawks start winning their road games with regularity the NFC title may become an unreachable star.
  • Bear down a little bit. Everybody's doing it.


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  • A different version of the fight song - nice.

  • Jeff, what this talk about a Bear loss before they go 19-0? C'mon buddy, you can dew it!

    Ha! Rob Synder references always inspire.

  • Best day of the week folks!

    I too am worried by Jeffs lack of conviction in going 19-0. What kind of Bears fan are you exactly blogfadda?

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    The worst kind. He's from Jersey. Hee hee.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Bwahaha! That got me chuckling.

  • A win today would put them 2 up on the division. That is never a bad thing. It's also never and EASY thing.


    Yeah, suuure.

  • Do NOT root for a Houston win. Irish is into the CHI, SEA, KC (-4) treble. The babies, think of the babies. They all win and the bankroll is x14 for the season.

    Peanut is cleared to go. Optimus v Megatron. Suh v Long. Can't wait.

    Should be a close game today, with us winning due to winning the penalty and turnover battle. Expect another heart-stopper.

    Enjoy, and no drinking and driving, unless ... y'know ... it's GTA V.

    GO BEARS!!!

  • Bears, Colts, Chiefs, Ravens.

    let's go.

  • Good Luck Irish! You'll need it betting NFL games. I used to know a couple of guys that could come out on top betting college games but I've never known anyone that has come out ahead betting NFL games. I used to work in casinos so I'm not too crazy about gambling. Oh well. FOR THE BABIES!!!!!!!!!!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    yeah, I got creamed last year, but I was betting 3 or 4 teams to win every week, and they all had to win. Greedy. My two main fancies would generally win, but one of the others would always let me down. A lot of parity in the NFL now. I'm only taking the spread on the Chiefs game though, should be another nightmare for Eli.

  • You betting on the NFL? That's crazier than believing the Fed is run by tall white aliens!

    C'mon, man.

  • Oh, and my upset special would be Browns over Bengals.

    The Raider-Skins game ought to be crazy. Would've been more entertaining if Pryor had started.

    Miami over Saints is another possible upset I would debate putting money on, if I were a betting man.

  • You know you want to Butch.

    BTW - I tweeted Artoo to post the chat link. He's probably banging his girl right now so she'll let him watch the game.

  • Irish - I just got back from Red Rock, where I placed a nice wager on the same teams.

    I even put in a 5 team teaser with (CHI, SEA, KC, CINCY, BALT)

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    Bear The Fuck Down!!!


    G-MEN - "Shaky Jake Upset Special"

    Are the Chiefs a legit team. You Betcha!(Sarah Palin quote just for Brownie, hee hee) Unfortunately, they play the 0-3 G-Men this week and even though they are at home, I just don't see the Giants(as bad as they seem to be) going 0-4. This is a gut instinct pick all the way.

    Look for the Chargers to squeak one out at home against the Cowgirls.

    Are the Fins worthy of 4-0? Not really, I just want the Bears to be the only undefeated NFC team come Tuesday.

    For Irish: "C'mon big money"

  • Bearing Down.

  • Da Bears are gonna stomp the kitties today!! I hope Peanut is good to go. Bear Down!!!

  • After this 12 pack, I should be full on Bear Down mode!! I hope lil Howie takes out Suh's damn knees!!

  • In reply to 505 Bears!!:

    No doubt at a key point in the game when Cutty misses a crucial third down pass for the game .. .Suh-nami does something really stupid for 15 yards ... then we march down the field and score - game over. Either that, or Akers misses a crucial XP on his last kick in the NFL.

  • WHich goes down first, the Lesbian or this Chicago Now server?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    the lesbian. those dirty bastards deserve to ride out the season without him.

  • Here you go gents!

  • Nice one Artoo!

  • Bears inactive players-

    Surprised to see Minter inactive with only 2 DT on the roster. Ford active for first time in Ford field.

  • In reply to Cormonster:

    Hope that's Joe not James !

  • I was JUST about to post the same damn thing. that better not be fucking james maingses.

    Gonna miss the game cause I already got the slip & slide set up in the back yard for my guys. Bear down.

    We need this game. Let's fucking DO THIS!!!

  • Lions kicking our ass BIG time

  • Time to see if our Boys have the kinda character they need if the are to be SB contenders this year. I sure hope GP is wrong.

  • The real Cutler ia back... :/

  • In reply to Scala:

    Or how about the Lion's D is doing very good? It was only the first half.

    Seriously, contribute better than to use a cheap argument against Cutler and open your eyes to what else is going on in the game and have more faith in your team

  • In reply to burntorangenavyblue:

    Cutler is killing us man... how many more horrible throws do you need to see?

    Tho that holding call to fuck earl was ludicrous

  • In reply to burntorangenavyblue:

    You must be watching an edited version. Cutler simply unable to throw the ball so far

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    And Marshall and Black Uni not securing the ones that do get there. Bad combination

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    And earl losing his on a phantom hold

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    How about read my comment more clearly. I said 1st half and I posted that during half-time...

  • In reply to burntorangenavyblue:

    Jay threw a lot of bad balls in the first half, man. I jumped on the Jay bandwagon last week, and on the bright side today, he only made one costly throw because he was *thinking* wrong. The rest were because he was *throwing* wrong.

  • Shambolic. Utterly disgraceful.

  • Cutler looks exactly like bad rex thru three quarters today

  • We need a good QB, not a good/bad QB...

  • In reply to Scala:

    All good QB's have bad games. Let's hope this is just a hiccup in the Cutler/Trestman journey.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    +1 And today was a *bad* day for Jay

  • In reply to Scala:

    There will be no one at this time or in the next draft that will be a possible successor of Jay Cutler.

    Even with a decent draft class, there are no immediate impact qb that will start over Cutler. If there was, another lower-tiered team in the draft pick will snatch them up anyways.

  • At least we're going to get to see how the team responds to getting their shit pushed in. I'm looking for a big bounce back next week. Or maybe I should say hoping.

  • It saddens me that you guys are so quick to bash everyone around you. You guys want to be nothing but fair weather judges and just not shut up and have faith in the team. BE REALISTIC. It's only 4 games in and you guys are talking trash and bringing up the PAST. It is a new regime, a new scheme. Many of you guys were happy with the clutches that the Bears made that mattered the past 3 games, but want to name-call Jay and refer him to someone does not come even close to him in talent and leadership as him because of ONE game?!?

    This is a divisional games, and they are almost always the toughest games to play on both sides of the ball. Again, new scheme, new regime, only 4 games in. I would rather that the Bears find out their flaws NOW then to crash and burn near the end of the season where it is to late to find answers.

    Also, this is the Lions. They get hungry at certain times, but will be lazy and sleep for 90 percent of the day (or season shall I say).

  • In reply to burntorangenavyblue:

    It's not one game though. He rifles every ball, and then when he's being sacked he doesn't protect it. He hasn't changed ....when faced with the good teams he falls apart. In his defense, he was facing a tough DL today, but the chinks in his armor are still there, and we have to seriously consider if it's wise to make him the highest QB in the league.

  • I agree that Trestman needs some whispering to Jay - he regressed to gunslinger mode badly today, perhaps because he felt the game plan was a known quantity to the Lions.

  • The Bears will not make him the highest paid quarterback in the league. I'm almost sure that even Jay would not be that much of an arrogant guy to try to pull that one to upper management that they need to pay him or else. Regardless of the team barely making playoffs or winning the superbowl, I'm pretty sure that Jay would rather continue to want more pieces added around him or to see the Defense get rebuilt because of their age.

  • In reply to burntorangenavyblue:

    I agree.

    Here's what happened: everybody has film on Trestman and what his cards are. They gamed this team. It wasn't Suh and Fairley, they weren't especially dominant - it was Jay's reads down the field were confounded - he held the ball way too long and his throws either floated or were off.

    On D - couple things to note:

    Dinner is replacing James Anderson at Sam in goal line D. And he's not playing much end anymore, the reps are going to Cornelius Washington. We may want to spell Paea with Minter more. We need better ILB play than what DJ is giving us, I'd like to see Bostic get a shot in there.

    On O - we recycled that Jefferies reverse, we simply didn't show the Lions anything they hadn't already practiced and prepared for.

    Time to add more stuff. Gotta go do it - can't get predictable in this league. Reset expectations game.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I agree pretty much with this summation.

    They keep going on about 10% of the offense on display, so it's time to reveal some more, especially going against the Saints next week.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Agreed on Bostic, he may have the X factor we're missing. DJ is a serviceable backup though. We might try introducing Khaseem Greene too, as he has speed in the pass rushing game.

    But Cutty, there's nothing we can do there. The boy is not listening ... and it's year 5.

  • So anytime that the Bears play a team with a good D, it's all Jay's fault? That's just scapegoating him. The Lion's corners played great today covering Jay's targets, and it made it easier for them b/c the D-line was pressuring him all game. Weird, b/c when the Bears do the same exact thing against their opponents offense, I don't hear ANYONE on this blog saying, "God, that quarterback threw the game away for the Bears to win. He sucks big time, reminds me of the Bad Rex"....

    Mistakes need to be kept to a minimum, I agree. However, it's the 4th game in and a completely new regime. I'd rather find out NOW the flaws and get working on them instead of when we're doing well and trying to get in the playoffs or a better seeding when we crash and burn. Or crashing and burning in the playoffs or superbowl.

  • In reply to burntorangenavyblue:

    The Lions corners blow and their defense cannot be considered a great one. Cutty made a couple of shit throws today. That's it. End of story. Every quarterback in the league does is from time to time. He's had three good games with strong finishes and one shitty game. I don't think there's any reason to react strongly one way or the other yet.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    Might have helped to pound the rock on the wide nine. Oh well. Gotta agree Cutler had a shitty game. It happens. Podlesh picked the worst possible time for a 30 yd punt. It will be interesting to see how things go next week. Bush was the difference in the game.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    We had no answer for Bush

  • In reply to burntorangenavyblue:

    NO, burnt. Go watch the fucking film. Jay threw a lot of bad balls today. More than the first three games put together.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The Jeffery reverse went for 26 yards.

  • In reply to burntorangenavyblue:

    Cutty played badly today. That's all. I'm optimistic they'll put it back together in a week.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:



    Fortunately, you can only lose one game in a given week (well, technically no, but you know what I mean)

  • Is the miracle on?

  • lol... I was pushing it at the sports bar today, Irish. My rallying cry was "We're still in this. It's DETROIT after all."

    Didn't quite work. Oh well.

  • I can't stand looking at Jim Schwartz. Can't stand it

  • Did Fairely (sp?) just showboat all over the field and ran across it with the gameball? Did he even shake anyone's hand or anything respectible?

  • Well there goes a perfect season. Lol. Had to go for it guys. Now we can get back to winning with a solid week of practice and game film.

    I'm not gonna tell MB I told you so but dammit, I told you so. The Lions are loaded and its going to be a genuine slugfest within our division all season long.

    Go Bears. That is all.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    3 INTs trac.

    Didn't see a stich of the game, but can't win giving it up like that.

    Would they still have won if cutty had only thrown 1?

    Let me reiterate.... fuck the lions.... right in their cheap shotting face. We're going to destroy them when they come to our house.

    Fucking cuttler. Was hoping bad cutler would should up next week not this one.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Listening to the game, it sounded like a shit storm coming our way from the get go. The Lions ran and passed on us at will.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    3 ints and a stripsack for 6 will do that to ya. Let's see what happens when they're in our house.

    Remember last time this happened? We absolutely teabagged them the second game. I think the lesbian had 5 ints, 2 pick 6s.

    Any given sunday trac.

    we were bound do have a letdown soon. I was kinda hoping it would be next week, but I'll tell you what... if we beat the saints I'll be pretty happy.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jay threw badly, MB. Only one bad *decision* IMO, but a lot of bad throws.

  • someone give me the 3 sentence summary

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Not enough short passing in 2nd and 3rd quarter to keep Detroit from having all of the momentum.

    Too many under/overthrown balls and INT's from Jay after he would get out of the pocket and have a lane to run or throw. He eluded the rush pretty well but then the ball would sail, they'd drop it or a penalty would negate the reception.

    Defense got fucking raped by Reggie Bush. Embarassing.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    thanks. oh well.

    rather it happen now. it's only Q1

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Good summary Johnny. The worst play of the day to me was the phantom hold that negated a ballsy catch long over the middle by Earl when were were down by 14. That play stands and I think we'd been down by seven or eleven entering the 4th Q.

    On the other hand, I'd say 0 for 10 on 3rd down by the O was a big factor.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Jay's balls were off today. He was underthrowing wide open guys and overthrowing wide open guys. Then he'd evade the rush and instead of running for 7-10+ yards he'd let it go and get it picked.

    I counted over 4 underthrown balls that would have been easy catches for 50+ yards on 2nd long type situations.

    Podlesh shat the bed, the D shat the bed, Hester and the specials blocking shat the bed.

    3-1 and plenty of corrections to be made.

    My headslap play of the day was Jay doing a quick 3 step drop, nothing was open and he proceeded to stand in the pocket with the ball in ONE hand BELOW HIS WANST just asking to be stripped.....and Suh obliged. Trestman and Cavanaugh are going to flip their shit.

    I called 12-4 or 13-3 but I have to be honest, I didn't count this game as a loss so maybe 11-5 or 12-4 now . I also didn't think the D would get worked the way it did.

    I have to believe Trestman is smart enough to see and know the types of plays that I already know we can execute well and will adjust for next week. I think we should shelve the deep sideline pass that needs to be over the corner and under the safety. That has accounted for 2 brutal picks this year.

    The other intercepted balls were just poorly thrown, not bad decisions.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Reggie Bush.
    Lions D-line rather good.
    Cutty rather bad.

  • simple. elegant. to the point.

    gracias caballero

  • Plenty to fix, plenty of blame to go around, plenty of upside and potential to improve though so that's a positive.

    Till next week, Go Bears.


  • just watched the highlights.

    can't win a game with 3 ints and a strip sack for 6 man. just cain't.

  • Someone should also punch Podlesh in the nutsack. Way to highschool punt the shit out of the ball today. Ever hear of fucking hang time?

  • In reply to Waffle:

    That was a total non-factor, Johnny, and you know it.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Are you kidding right now Dave? You think it's acceptable to have 30yd punts, punts that are so low that the coverage can't get down to cover the kick and directional punts that net 35 yards???

    Brutal man, they were brutal and played a huge role in field position and that punt return.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    The punt *return* I'll definitely give you. Decamillis (whatever his name is) shouldn't be on the staff next season, as specials have been way below the Toub standard we've enjoyed for the past decade.

    On Hester, it was the usual thing. People bitch about him being indecisive or timid, but bottom line it that Devin Hester knows better how to return kicks than any of us, and arguably anyone that's ever played in the NFL. There were two (maybe three; I remember two) where he "attacked" the return - in my opinion the cases where he thought a seam was there or might develop - and the others he "hesitated" or "wimped out" *waiting* for a block or gap.

    The return game has, quite frankly, never been the same since Hunter Hillenmeyer retired, just as the coverage game has never been the same since Brendan Ayanbadejo left.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Dave, you have to give me the Podlesh bullshit punts too. Professional sports writers noticed it. Football is a game of field position and if our QB gives the other team great field position by making a terrible throw that's one thing. When the fucking punter loses us 15-20 yards by punting it shorter than kids from my local highschool that's lunacy. That's 2 first downs less the other team needs in order to get down the field. Multiply that by 2 or 3 shitball punts and it means something.

    I had no issue with Hester. The blocking is bullshit and hasn't been the same in years. The personnel is just not that special on specials.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Ok... I grant you the punts, Johnny. I think I was probably just so disgusted overall that I did not think it a big deal. But you are right.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    did you just say (out loud) that hunter fucking hillenmyer was the reason hester and our special were what they were.

    Kinda speechless at that analysis. I'm still buying first round in dec, but my god man.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    De Camillis or whatever his name is sucks. Your boy Joe Anderson was inactive today. Ford took his place and choked on the big punt return. After that, the Bears were afraid of a return.

  • In reply to Cormonster:


  • flacco had 5 ints today... they lost to the bills.

    it could be worse I guess.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's just tough to watch a regression, albeit a temporary one, in Cutlers growth. He didn't throw any balls away today, didn't hit wide open guys and had no ball security again. He had 2 beautiful TD passes that were just out of bounds to Martellus and Marshall that yielded 6 pts instead of 14.

    That playcalling in the 2nd and 3rd quarters was BRUTAL.

    Our LB's were non existent in the first half.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    It was tough. On the bright side, we did make up 16 points at the end that in some crazy way could matter on tiebreakers. But yes, that's a bit of a stretch on the silver lining side.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    the bright side is that if Cutty has a couple of shitty games and we do well overall we get him for a discount. Flacco threw 5 picks today and lost the game against the Bills.

    He lost me money but that serves me right for putting money on a team led by Joe fucking Flacco.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Think it was Al who'd say it serves you right for betting on the NFL at all.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    this looks to be the case. My betting days are done.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Really, SC.

    I mean, who the Chiefs 4-0 / Giants 0-4 parlay?

    Or the Falcons 1-3?

    Or the Steelers 0-4?

    Someone was griping about the Bills & Browns matchup this Thursday. Well, don't look know, folks, but they are both 2-2.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    I feel ya Waffle. I liked SEA and KC to win, but the heart sucked me into believing in my Bears. Almost any other pick would have been good. Had a little saver on Tennessee though. I have long since refused to bet on Flacco. Now Jay gets added to the list. The Browns and the Titans should be good value for awhile, along with KC and SEA of course. Damn, do Denver look good.

  • This one's all on Cutler.
    Special teams didn't help either.
    3 Steps forward .
    One step back.

    One positive. I believe Marshall, M. Bennett and Jeffrey all had 7 (or more) catches) apiece.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Largely on Cutler yes, but to say all is unfair. The defense didn't play well either. I'm more concerned about the D than the O moving forward.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    I wish I knoew what that holding call was supposed to be about. It was such the 'Earl off the bench makes giant play' thing, and I was yelling "about fucking time we went to him" and then "what?"

    And they show Kyle standing boy named Suh up and.... huh?

    That call was big. It really was.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I don't think they got him for holding, i think they got him for hands to the face.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    That would make some sort of sense.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    If so, I hope Kyle punched him right in the fucking face, since it came at such an inopportune moment.

    You know what a big Earl fan I am, and he (once again) makes the big play in traffic that we really needed. For naught. Fuck.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    It was a garbage fucking call.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    agreed, i thought it was a pussy call myself

  • In reply to Waffle:

    What I heard was "HOLDING , 75 OFFENSE" and I sure didn't see it, either.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    FOUR Turnovers that led to what? More than 20 points? And so many outright BAD throws today. The 2nd and 3rd INTs were just launched and I said out loud to my tablemates "TOO LONG, TOO LONG" just before the strip-sack.

    That said, also, no luck today. Stafford coughs it up on the goal line and it bounces like a basketball right back into his hands.

    The D holds the Lions to field goals to star the game. Bears up 10-9. First and 10 at their own 42 and PHFFT. 3 and out.


    1 for 13 on 3rd down?


    That's about 8% efficients.

    I've been as big a Cutler backer as anybody, but he was clearly BAD for 3 quarters today and if he take care of the ball, the Bears are probably 4-0.

  • Amazing to think all the sit I read on here about Peyton Manning being overrated. Can't decide on lol or smh.

    28 of 34, 327, 4 TD, 0 Int

    What a piece of shit.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    guy is on another fucking level.

    Amazing. that team is seriously dangerous

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Imagine what Denver will be like when Von Miller and Champ Bailey are back. Was Clady out for the season?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Oh he's a machine in the regular season, Dave. But it ain't about what you do in the regular season. No one ever goes - oh .. so and so had a great year that year ... people only remember rings.

  • Was just thinking of another positive today.

    Pep. Beast.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Yes. Pepp sighting today. And you're spot on with Earl's catch. The call was on Long for illegal hands to the face and it changed the game in a similar fashion to Walter's bonehead penalty last week. Thing is, the call on Long was bull shit. Looked like pair of bad ass linemen locked in battle to me. Pussy call.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Reggie Bush wanted no piece of Peppers today...especially on the catch he didn't make in the flat when it was one on one. Peppers looked like a very, very angry man today.

  • Cutler lost the game for the bears?

    Yes and no.

    Yes, he threw 3 INTs and the strip-sack was a ball-buster. But he was in gunslinger mode because ST and D put the Bears down 21 points in the 2nd quarter.

    Be honest: which would've been better for the Bears in this game: Cutler not turning the ball over, or the D stopping Reggie Bush and ST not shitting the bed? My point is that Cutler played like shit... just like the rest of the team.

    I think Detroit came into the game figuring Johnson would be Peanut-ed once again, and so they figured to exploit the Bears' weak spot (D-Line) and the middle of the field, and let Johnson earn his paycheck by blocking more than catching. There was not enough pressure on Stafford.

    But above everything else, Cutler shit the bed because he did what he tried to do too much last year--put the team on his shoulders and win the game by himself. The Bears didn't have a 3rd down conversion until the 4th quarter, right? The execution on the offensive side of the ball was poor.

    Oh, and the penalty on Long was illegal hands to the face, not a hold. Still looked like a BS penalty, like some of the PI non-calls Detroit got away with (I know "faceguarding" doesn't exist anymore, but the defender still has to play the ball and not just tackle the receiver).

    I'd rather have the loss this week than next, to be honest. Detroit will come back to earth.

  • see I feel the opposite.

    I would MUCH rather have played balls deep today, fucked up the lions (gloated at trac a little), and gone up 2 on everyone else in the NFCN.

    A back down to earth game at 4-0 against the hot saints would be very believable.

    Oh well, I just don't want to lose both. I think cutty does what he usually does after a bedshitting game... come back and blow it up.

    D worries me. without a bunch of turnovers, we're a sieve. Fire decamillis... our specials suck for the first time in 10 years. Man I wish toub would have stayed.

  • The good news is, this team didn't roll over and die, even down by 3+ scores. And converting two consecutive 2-pt conversions is nothing to sneeze at either. Plus, and this is silver-lining as well, there were two other opportunities at turnovers where the ball just bounced slightly the wrong way.
    The game sucked - don't get me wrong...but I'm not writing off Cutty or this season just yet.
    I'd also like to point out that during the off-season, I stated we had a top-5 offense.
    Even after today's debacle, we are still looking fantastic to meet that bar.

  • I bought the hype. I feel soiled. But I'm glad I defended Mac this week when Cutty was lauded as our greatest-ever QB.

    Yeah, sure, we'll play the Giants in a few weeks and kick the shit out of them - Jay will throw 3 or 4 TDs and no picks and everybody will suck his cock again : "Told ya he'd be back!" - and it will prove absolutely nothing other than that he can take apart bad teams with no pass rush.

    Long has it been labored that all Cutty needed was receivers and an offensive line. Five years in, he has both.

    Jay Christopher Cutler is 30 years old and a veteran football player. I've been watching football for almost as long, but for five years I've been watching this guy make the same mistakes. He gets away with it when he plays anything less than a good 4-3 front, but once he meets such a front ... the wheels fall off. Leopards never change their spots.

    I am not a professional footballer, but that has not stopped me banging my head off the wall to this lot .....

    The following are all fixable, yet he has demonstrated no desire to make it so :

    1. He likes to rifle his passes. This is showing off. "Look how big my arm is." Sometimes less is more, Jay.

    2. Stands in the pocket and holds the ball like a briefcase down by his side. This results in him having to lift the ball up to the correct release position, before releasing. (a) It should already be there (b) it makes the strip-sack a lot easier.

    3. When being sacked, it's like he refuses to be sacked and holds the ball out, waiting for somebody to come back to him so he can shovel it to them. This inevitably results in a fumble. Take your sacks, Jay. Cover it up.

    4. Saying it for years, Jay, throw the ball away four times a game and you'll be great. It's what separates the great from the ordinary. You just can't do it ... because you know better than everybody.

    He's the best available to us, and there's nobody else around, so we support him, and will continue to do so. Lots of head shaking though.

    I remember a Bear QB being really cocky... thing is he could play the game, and lift the team when the defense they relied upon so much had taken the day off.

    He was smart ... but Cutty does the same thing over and over and expects different results.

  • Attention any "Chicken Littles" out there.

    The sky is not falling.

    This is the NFL. There are no multi-direction schools to play.

    Well, OK, maybe the Northwest Florida A & T Jaguars. A & T standing for "AWFUL & TERRIBLE".

    Winning AT Pittsburgh is HARD, Steelers as an OFER or not.

    Winning division games on the road is HARD, Jim Schwartz notwithstanding.

    Winning back-to-back road games in the NFL is HARD (unless one of them is Jacksonville).

    And the Bears are STILL just 4 games into a brand new offensive system.

    That's not an excuse but it IS a fact.

    If you told me in August that the Bears would be 3-1 in September I would have said "I'll take that".

  • I was ready to take a pipe to Suh's hamstring after he went low on Jay and twisted him around by the lower leg after the sack, btw.
    Dirty, shit, jackass mother-f0cker. Hate that guy. Absolutely hate him.

  • True Al, true. But then it's either another 10-6 and not make the playoffs, or an 11-5 and done once we meet a D-line. Anyone get a bead on Garza last night ?

    Lombardis matter, screw regular season records. Nobody remembers records.

    But wouldn't that have been the comeback of this era yesterday? That would have been the Miracle in Minnesota for this season. That would have been the omen for a superbowl win. Instead it was the shape of things to come.

    No, the sky isn't falling in ... but it'll be cloudy in Chicago for the forseeable.

  • 3 picks won't get it.
    Jay had his bad game. Let's hope it's his only one. 4-2 will be pretty good . Pack will dump on the Pussys and all will be 4-2 after NO we beat the Gs and I don't know the sched for the Pack and Detroit in our week .Bears 5-2..tied for division lead..

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