Second Meaningless Game Thread

Second Meaningless Game Thread

It seems the media world around NFL franchises all take the same approach these preseason games, me included. You zero in on a handful of players/positions and hope something can be learned from the performance. In most if not all cases nothing is learned.

So here's hoping the Bears leave Soldier Field tonight as healthy as they entered. It is all that matters.

I will be Tweeting tonight throughout the game. You can experience those Tweets by checking me out HERE. We'll be testing out a new DBB program tonight as well but more information on that will be available in the coming weeks.

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  • First to say that Peppers and Marshall shouldn't be playing tonight. They are known quantities coming off of injuries.

    Please god let Jay walk out of this game without dislocating his finger on garza's helmet or getting a concussion.

  • In reply to Rodgers Dead:

    Pep says he'll play in the 1st Q.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    why fucking risk it. he's got a hamstring injury.

  • Jeff I love your posts but your graphic design is shite. No matter. Bear Down!

  • In reply to Jokey:

    haha

  • In reply to Jokey:

    That's total BS criticism.

  • In the first pre-season game, the Bears had zero false starts and illegal formation penalties. Pretty impressive while implementing a new offense. They did have one delay of game.

  • In reply to Cormonster:

    And for comparison purposes, Lovie's team committed 20 penalties in his first PS game.

  • Here's a good story about Nate Collins and Kyle Long.

    http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/9567654/kyle-long-nate-collins-chicago-bears-chris-long-st-louis-rams-share-strong-friendship

  • I don't get how Jeff can say these games are meaningless.

    If it wasn't for these games, we would have started the 1st game with Webb at RT and witnessed Cutler getting murdered by the Bengals pass rush.

    If it wasn't for these games, Armando Allen would likely be our 3rd HB instead of Ford.

    These games will be invaluable in determining whether Bostic, Long, Mills, Frey can hold their own against 1st stringers (or at the very least provide valuable experience for the green horns).

    We also gotta find out if Collins, Washington, Minter are foreals, or if we have to go shopping for D-line depth with the pesos we have left over.

    That's not even mentioning which bubble WR will stick, which is perhaps the funnest to monitor.

    These games are NOT meaningless.

    Like someone else correctly observed, they just don't count.

    It's like dry humping a few girls before you lose your virginity. It's not as good as the real deal, but it's still somewhat fun and beneficial.

    Bear down, Biatches!

  • Yeah I basically said the exact thing on the last thread. Except for the dry humping part... There's nothing beneficial about blowing your load in your jeans.

  • I'd feel much better about the DL if we still had Idonije. Not sure what happened with those negotiations. According to PFF:

    New Lions DL Israel Idonije had 51 quarterback disruptions last season, just three fewer than Jason Pierre-Paul.
    Idonije did his damage on 56 fewer pass-rush attempts. He can also stop the run from left end and rush from the inside on nickel downs. Although Idonije will turn 32 in November, the Lions stole a highly productive player. Pro Football Focus suggests that this year's Detroit defensive line might be better than the 2010 unit that graded out best in the entire league.

    Shea had 4 QB disruptions in the first pre-season game, but I doubt he can play the run even close to as good as Israel.

  • Cutler. Please. Throw the ball away.

  • Bushrod sprung Forte. Forte with a nice move.

    Does anyone run for more 40 yarders before getting caught from behind than Forte? lol

    OK. Maybe one more series then take out the starters except Long-Mills-Bostic.

  • Forte is so money with that cutback juke. Weddle had no chance.

    Cutler to Marshall back shoulder? You can't defend that!

  • It was Marshall and Jeffrey who sealed the edge. Marshall fucking stood up a d-lineman. That was total bad ass. Bushrod got the gravy with the dback.

  • In reply to Cormonster:

    a thing of beauty. Irish will be miserable that it wasn't Josh Lenz doing the blocking though.

  • looking fucking good boys... pretty fucking pumped with the way we're playing.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    HELL YEAH !!

  • Oh and i don't think I can hate philip rivers any more than I do.

    Whiny little bitch.

    Fuck, spoke too soon.

  • oh and the one of the only people I hate more is fucking chris berman.

    fucking tool.

  • Jay is not looking good this pre season, leave him in there to work the kinks out before the season starts

  • When was he last time Jay Cutler looked comfortable in the pocket?

  • In reply to Shady:

    never.

    stop fucking forcing the ball to bmarsh fucking cutler. for fuck sake man.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Cutler rolls out of the pocket, first down to BMarsh. Clever girl Trestman

  • In reply to Shady:

    it was a read option!

  • What's with the Laker love Jeff? Purple and yellow?

  • brutal

  • Chicken Dinner taking steps. I like.

  • yes... roll him the fuck out!!!!!

    Our D already starting to step up

    Bang! Bang!

  • The rookie right side of this line is looking STRONG in the run. Feed the beasts.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Yup. Mills was holding a bit on that Forte TD run, but hey, whatever works!

    Fiammatta (FB) has looked solid.

    Long just swallows guys up. And he wanted to be a pitcher?

    I really like that little Cutler faux option to get him on the move.

  • ...And you wanted Eifert... smh

  • In reply to Shady:

    That was Johnny, I wanted Patterson! bwhaha

    Shea and Long are both making Emery look pretty smart today. Hopefully it continues.

  • lol, i wanted eifert badly but if Long and Mills play like that and only get better then we'll be looking good.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Random thoughts.

    Long is the Truth and Mills is exponentially better than Webb. Webb lost his job. Its finally over.
    The early sack on Cutty was on Bennett which surprised me.
    There have been some issues but I like what I'm seeing. Trestman's neighbor's cat calls plays better than Tice. This is going to be a big boy offense in a few weeks. Rambling . . . . . . . .

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    Webb officially demoted. He gone!!!

  • You know what to do now coaches...

    http://www.memesay.com/m/MTM0Nw==

  • Is it me, or are the Bears playing with more urgency than the Chargers?

    Chargers look like their half-assing it, while guys like Frey, Long, Mills, are just chomping at the bits.

  • yeah, i noticed that. Guys are flying through the air like fucking Varsity Blues. MTV football style.

    Frey on the kickoff trying to force the fumble in the endzone?? I was giddy.

  • Long may be in the pro bowl far sooner than we would have guessed. A fucking monster, he appears

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I like that he is aggressive and mean.....and enormous. He's got an NFL mentality.

  • Great Bears half.

    Positives: Jordan Mills outplayed DJ Fluker

    Bad: Cutler, oddly. Just... bad decision making, holding the ball too long, forcing it to BMarsh - just not - and I hate having to say this - he's not moving the ball around. He needs to get some religion with Alshon or maybe they are just baiting the rest of the league.

    Good: Forte looking like he's ready for the PB. BMarsh being unstoppable. The rookie right side.

    Weeden looks really good for the Browns, as an aside.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Are you drunk?

    http://www.punjabigraphics.com/images/17/borat-high-five.jpg

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yes, I'm surprised with Weeden's progession.

    I thought he was better than Tannenhill or Locker, then I had to rethink that as the season went on.

    Now, he looks like it's all clicking.

    Amazing what happens when a QB gets a good O.C.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    At work and can't get a feed. Tsk tsk Jay.

    Weeden definitely looked like the penny had dropped last week.

  • Is Suzy Kolber hot? I can't decide...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Joe Namath thinks so.

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2iwp0_joe-namath-wants-to-kiss-espn-s-suz_fun

  • In reply to Shady:

    An ESPN field producer should have been fired or at least suspended for not putting the kibosh on that interview and Suzy (hot in that "cute" way but I think she looks better with a shorter hairdo) shares responsibility because she should have taken one look at and/or whiff of "Broadway Joe" that evening and said "We're not doing this." All shame to the 4-letter for not aborting that interview with a guy who was so OBVIOUSLY impaired.

  • holy shit Bostic

  • In reply to Rodgers Dead:

    I believe that should read BosSTICK.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Al, that hit was old school. I also love that they didn't throw a flag just because it "sounded" bad. It was clean and a solid football play. It was also a fumble but that's for another time.

  • OMG BOSTIC.

  • Oh....damn...

    I'm off to order my Bostic jersey right the hell now...

  • In the words of Nature Boy Rick Flair...

    Whoooo!

    Bostic laying the wood.

    That'll make team think twice about running freely across the middle!.

  • How was that not a fumble?

  • In reply to Shady:

    +1

  • Uh, yes

  • That SHOULD have been a fumble. Maybe the refs felt sorry for the turnover Chargers.

    Hope Irvin isn't too badly hurt. Our DT depth is getting thinner than Nicolas Cage's hair.

  • They put an illegal block on Greene and he still blew that screen up.

  • Lenz....cut.

  • Bostic rookie coverage mistake.

  • Corey Irving injured on the play. Looking at the DT position on the depth chart, I'm not seeing a whole lot of depth.

    http://www.chicagobears.com/team/preseason_depth_chart.html

  • Bostic and Long both looking like they're absolutely loaded with potential. Mills looked solid. Chicken Dinner looks really, really, really fast. Trestman will actually out smart opposing coaches this year. No false starts, holds or wasted time outs. I know its preseason week 2 but PE is looking pretty sharp right now.

  • Mike Ford how do you not score?!? hahaha

  • Michael Ford and Weems make this team. Sorry Armando.
    Washington was one or two steps behind Ford on that return. He's a freak.

  • Nice job Ford!

    Then Long blocks 2 guys on the Bush TD run. Jesus Long.

  • In reply to Rodgers Dead:

    Gotta say long may make a fuckload of naysayers look really bad

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    If someone teaches that kid how to wait for a stunt he'll be disgustingly effective. it the only way to beat him

  • Hot Tub at LG, Sluace in at C, Long and Mills still dominating on the right. Bushy, TD, excellent. Excellent.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Sorry, Boggs at C not Slauce.

  • Agree with everything said here re: O-line, Cutler decisions, but hiw bout that Defense?

    I know it's PS, but I'm glad we don't look like the SD starters did today. Say what you will about #6, but Rivers and co. looked awful 'gainst our D. Of course the Cutler INT will grab more headlines than Rivers'. Cutler did, however, get spared the TO on his sack-fumble.

  • In reply to ben in norcal:

    Bennett threw the worst block of all time on that sack.

  • In reply to Rodgers Dead:

    Waffle, I'm trying my hardest to keep the preseason filter on my brain whilst watching these games. At this point, I still see no way to analyze whether or not #6 has not only bought in, but is effective in this new system.

    Less than a month and we'll know, I'm quite excited, to say the least. I think Cutler will be fine. Barring injury, I think he stays in Chi.

  • In reply to ben in norcal:

    I've never been concerned about Jay buying in. My only concern was the OL, the growth of Alshon, the health of Alshon, Bennett and key members of the D and of course Marshall coming off of surgery.

    Jay will be fine and as the running game gets stronger the success will become more consistent on offense because it will open up tons of options for the O.

    I mean for gods sake, we're running to the right successfully!!! Haven't done that since John Tait.

  • DT is getting a little thin.

  • Did not see cutler tonight, but the excuses are over for him. Fucking. Over.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    what excuses Dave? when has he made an excuse? look what he did with shit OL and shit coaching and shit WR's.

    Let the fucking guy play. You sound like Rick Telander.

  • In reply to Rodgers Dead:

    LOL (too bad I don;t have a 400 point font for that)

    You're kidding, right? I was talking about his fans making excuses. As if you didn't know about those.

  • In reply to Rodgers Dead:

    LOL (I need a 400 point font)

    I was talking about excuse from his fans. Something you should know about.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Gawd I hate this pathetic site

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I love when I just put "+1" and it has to be "approved".

  • In reply to Rodgers Dead:

    He hasn't done anything with a shit OL and WRs. Nobody does. We're still waiting to see him with a half-decent line in front of him. Reserving judgement until we see that line, but it doesn't appear that his old habits have been tempered. Elway had terrible stats his whole career and that doesn't seem to have affected his legend. Cincinatti will tell us everything we need to know.

  • This season hinges on OL play. If it's solid then the run game will be effective.
    If run game is effective then play action and Cutler will destroy opposing D's.
    If play action is effective then Martellus Bennett, Marshall and Jeffrey will clean up this year.
    If they clean up this year Jay will throw for 4000+ with a shit ton of TD's
    If he does that we go NFC Championship minimum.

    If Long and Mills can perform consistently like they did last night and improve game after game the sky is the limit for this team.

    Imagine having a balanced O that doesn't need to rely on hot routes because protection breaks down after 2 seconds.

    Imagine having an OL that can help Forte punch it in from the 10yd line with just run plays if need be.

  • Also, there has been a curious lack of penalties, which is interesting.

  • I'm not going to lie, I really enjoyed that Lance Briggs sideline interview.

  • In reply to Shady:

    It looked like Briggs was going to tear up when Lach was brought up.

    Briggs looked like Lach out there audibling.

  • Toliver nice on specials tonight but must catch slant.

  • JT Thomas is a special teams ace.

  • Why is McCown back in?

  • In reply to Shady:

    Blanchard hurt his hand, I think.

    I smell a sophmore redshirt maneuver coming very soon.

  • dude, blanchard sucks

  • In reply to Shady:

    blanchard hurt on that idiotic sack he took for no reason on the sidelines. he's fucking bad.

  • In reply to Rodgers Dead:

    He's the only QB I know who tries to keep the play alive for a check down.

    If he's gonna go all Big Ben, at least chuck it down field.

  • i think i was being too harsh. he's not a piece of shit but he doesn't have the physical tools to overcome his mental mistakes and lack of decision making in the pocket.

  • Zibikowski is not going to make the 53.

  • In reply to Shady:

    agreed.

  • I am not cool with going into the season with McCown. I don't miss JCampbell but c'mon - we gotta have something behind Jay beyond this.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Problem is, there isn't anyone out there. Emery figures whoever he can get now, he can get when an injury happens. And if we have to trade to get somebody, we can do that later in the season when the draft picks start becoming more valuable and teams are willing to do deals like that.

    Plus, in a couple of weeks the league will shed 40% of its players. When that happens, we'll see who is available.

    As Emery says, just like anything else, he has a list.

  • At least Robbie looks like whatever that silly injury was has not screwed him up.

  • Good game ya'll.

  • As exibition games go, that was quite entertaining.

    Dissapointing that everything Jay threw was at BM.

    Fair to say that Long looked better this evening than Chris Williams or Gabe Carimi ever did on their best days?

    Of course, before we get TOO excited, it WAS the Chargers.

    7-9 in bad division last season and they looked in mid-season form for turning the ball over (44 last year is the number I believe I heard quoted).

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Having BM on the field pre-season isn't helping the receivers much.

  • he was targeted 4 times in the entire game. I'm willing to bet it didn't retard Toliver's progress.

  • Is this the lowest count ever for a game thread?

    And did I see people mention the word 'dominating' in reference to a segment of our lie? How did Boggs look? How can we evaluate receivers in game situations when Brandon The Cuttymagnet is on the field?

  • http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/videos/Butkus_on_Americas_Team/caa68c6b-37be-403f-a1ee-6cac1ed79a7b

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I just logged in to fucking post the Butkus link.

    Look :

    http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/videos/Butkus_on_Americas_Team/caa68c6b-37be-403f-a1ee-6cac1ed79a7b

    Gimme a fkn break here.
    (shakes head wondering why he bothers)

    Doing PEDS a lot puts 30 years on your circulatory system.

    There. See Dave? I put information beside my shit in case the dudes/dudettes don't wanna paste that link, or like Artoo, they don't wanna listen to guys over 40.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Jesus Dave, go to sleep !

  • Cutler made one mistake last night. Really bad ball to BMarsh.
    Outside of that, I was very impressed with the first team offense last night. Bennett shit the bed in the first series that led to a sack and shook everything up, but they settled down and looked fine after that. Given the linemen on the current roster, I'm betting that you saw your starting five last night. I'm trying very hard to slow my roll here, but the rookies looked sharp, Bushrod settled down and looked good. I'll reserve judgement for the time being but Emery may have fixed 60% of the oline in one off season. We'll know by mid season.

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    In reply to Johnnywad:

    I watched the game last night. I also had to try real hard to put the pre-season filter on. Loved the energy, loved the rookies +chicken dinner. Special teams looked like guys were fighting for jobs.

    My biggest take away, and this is killing me to say it. The thought crept into my head, that Jay Cutler is trending way closer to mediocre, than elite. That pick was not just about one interception in a ridiculously irrelevant game. It's a throw that a HS quarterback knows not to make. It's not a throw that an elite QB ever makes, unless he absolutely has to (down, distance, game circumstance). The daily double of what keeps Cutler from being elite, or even a top ten guy. He has to cut down on stupid turnovers and quit locking in to one receiver.

    But again, preseason who cares. Right?

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    I watched Brees, Flacco, Wilson, Rivers and Weeden attempt the same throws in the last 2 days alone.

    I just don't understand how Jay can be "trending" towards mediocre. How do you trend towards mediocre when you have a team that we all have boners for right now because two fucking rookies have come in and are playing better than 90% of our line has for the last 5 years. I'm fucking stupified by this comment man.

    I know you love the Bears but let's be honest. Cutler is the only thing that has kept this offense from completely imploding for the last 4 years.

    That's not "trending way closer" to mediocre.

    I am just excited to POSSIBLY have an offense that other "ELITE" qb's have as an afterthought. We're having orgasms because our OL won't have Webb on it. Other teams can plug and play rookies and have "elite" quarterbacks because they have multiple pro bowl OL, top 5 running games, pass catching TE's that stress the middle and keep LB's honest and continuity.

    The only thing we need to be doing right now is tempering our OL boners because that was entertaining as all hell to watch yesterday.

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    In reply to Rodgers Dead:

    I hope so. I'm a big Cutler fan. Fighting the negativity you hear about him. He also doesn't make it easy on us. He could explode this year. Nobody wants to hear it, but I think Cutler is better than Flacco...

  • You guys want a laugh this morning? Check out some of the reactions from the night of the draft and the days immediately following:

    http://www.chicagonow.com/da-bears-blog/2013/04/opening-round-draft-thread-tee-shirt-contest/#comments

    http://www.chicagonow.com/da-bears-blog/2013/04/bears-select-kyle-long-guard-of-the-longs/#comments

    http://www.chicagonow.com/da-bears-blog/2013/04/three-reasons-i-love-the-kyle-long-pick/#comments

    Now I'll say this, Long still hasn't played a single regular season game of NFL footbal but I think we can all agree from what we saw last night it looks like he has pro bowl potential.

    And I have to say this, watching Long and Mills dominate fools last night felt so good, so damn good. Watching him last night reminded me of watching Brandon Marshall make ridiculous plays when he first arrived in Chicago. I had to pinch myself and ask, is this real? Is he really ours? I mean, when was the last time we had a lineman with this kind of talent? '85? So fucking happy this Friday morning.

  • In reply to Shady:

    those two looked sharp and you can see that both have potential but Long has the potential to be unique. The guy was blocking at times like Larry Allen, knocking a guy off balance with one hand then moving to the next level and sealing off a hole. Jesus, i've not seen that in quite some time. he also got extended action so he didn't just do it on one series. he did it so often that EVERYONE noticed.

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    In reply to Shady:

    I'm not looking. I'm ashamed of myself. I thought it was a terrible pick. I broke my own rule and got caught up with what the hairdo guy and the 4 letter network was saying about who should go where and reading scouting reports. First and last time.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    I was less than enthusiastic myself because I wanted Eifert or Te'o but most of all I think I was just in complete shock at how many OL went in the first couple of picks and how slim the pickings were by the time we came on the clock.

    I had to put one of my buddies on suicide watch after the pick. He was in disbelief last night. He actually watches games like Your Boy Roy and analyzes. he was almost giddy.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I mean, when was the last time we had a lineman with this kind of talent?

    I always thought Hatley's pickup of John Tait was one of the more unheralded moves in Bears history. He held down that LT job for a couple years, and was solid. I also used to be a big fan of the Big Cat, who I think was a great RT for a couple years.

    But G in the draft? Last one with Long's talent was Bortz. Hampton once stated that Bortz was the strongest man he ever went up against. Long is in that class, stoning 300 lb. 3 technique guys solo, allowing Garza to chip Slauson's man or pick up a blitzing LB. That's big.

  • Te'os interview was funny.

    "What do your teammates say about your fictional girlfriend?"

    "I explained to them what really happened, and then they say - hey, you know, that could have happened to me."

    Uh-huh.

    My son was sitting with me, he asks me "what is this guy talking about?"

    "He got scammed."

    "On the internet?"

    "yes, some people pulled a scam on him."

    "The internet is full of scammers and con artists."

    "Yes, that's true. That's why we protect ourselves."

    "Did they steal his money?"

    "In a sense, yes. A guys pretended to be a girl on the internet to get him to like him, by pretending to be somebody he wasn't. Then, it was revealed that he was being scammed and he was made to look like a fool and then football teams didn't know if they wanted him to be on the team. It cost him a lot of salary he could have made if he showed he was smarter than that."

    "He must be stupid. I don't see why he didn't just hear the guy's voice and know it was not a girl."

    "Me neither."

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