Why the Henry Melton Decision is Keen Business Sense for Bears

Why the Henry Melton Decision is Keen Business Sense for Bears

Henry Melton is the most significant, successful position project of the Lovie Smith/Rod Marinelli era. He has been molded into a solid defensive tackle by two of the finest defensive minds in the sport. But one thing should be made abundantly clear about Melton after three years playing defense for the Chicago Bears: he is not great...yet.

Great defensive tackles - specifically in the LoveRod system - register more than 6 or 7 sacks. Great defensive tackles take over games. Melton has rarely done that for more than a handful of plays.

To the best of my comprehension Phil Emery's decision to have Melton play out the 2013 season on the Franchise Tag has no substantial downside. Let's look at the potential outcomes of the coming campaign.

  1. Melton stinks. The Bears can write off his early success to the system and let someone else pick up his next tab under the dreaded "change of scenery" moniker. (See: Cowboys, Dallas or wherever Lovie lands in 2014.)
  2. Melton is mediocre. The Bears will have saved millions upon millions of dollars and have the opportunity to bring Melton back in 2014 for a severely discounted rate.
  3. Melton is good. The Bears have increased leverage as Melton can no longer demand top tier defensive tackle money. The organization could re-sign Melton and see a motivated player in 2014 and beyond.
  4. Melton is great. The Bears pay him. A lot. But let's be honest here. "A lot" in 2014 won't be much more than "a lot" today. Will the Bears have to pay MORE next off-season than they do this off-season? Yes. But that difference will be negligible when it comes to cap implications.

If Henry Melton turns into Warren Sapp and puts up a 12-14 sack season he will have won his contract standoff with the Bears. But the Bears will have most likely won a bunch of games as a result of his play. Would every Bears fan on earth not accept that tradeoff?

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  • Good call Jeff. Nice to talk about football for a change.

  • "If Henry Melton turns into Warren Sapp and puts up a 12-14 sack season..."

    Please send me a bag of that crack your smoking Jeff...

    "Melton is mediocre."

    I cannot agree more. If we want our D-line to dominate we need a young "dominating" kid...Melton is not him.

  • quick but effective post Jeff.

    We need Melton to push that pocket from the middle and run those QB's into the loving arms of Pep, Woot and Nick Reed.

  • http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/07/13/dnt-ghetto-booty-diagnosis.wreg.html


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  • I went to hand in my Chicago Firearm Permit form and registration fee (of course) to the police department today.

    I walked in and noticed that the line for Gun Registration was empty. This was odd since the rest of the place was packed. I walked up and the lady told me that the program was suspended and that all I needed was a valid FOID card in order to keep a weapon at my house but that it still needed to comply with Chicago and Cook County laws.

    The mandatory classes would count towards the overall amount needed for conceal carry though.

    She was brutally honest. She said "I don't recommend carrying in public even if it's legal, we don't even get it right all of the time and it's our job. Keep it at your house safe and locked...until it's time to use it. If someone comes at you or your family in your house, keep calm, shoot straight and you shoot to kill until you empty that mag."

    Damn. Chicago justice.

  • Her last piece of advice goes without saying. If I have to shoot, there's only going to be ONE story to be heard when the cavalry gets here.

  • I don't know that I've made more than 3 or 4 posts on this blog, but I just can not let this one go.
    "until you empty that mag"
    Horrible advice. While I can agree with the concept of having only one story, anything beyond "neutralizing the threat" guarantees an excessive use of force conviction. Not to mention the additional risk of hitting someone or something not intended. The goal is twice in the thoracic cavity and if necessary, once in the ocular-cranial area. Between the eyebrows and upper lip.
    If there is one lesson to be learned from the Zimmerman circus, it's that if you do use deadly force, you WILL be bankrupt by the time it is over. Even if ruled justified, you are still open to civil proceedings and lawyers ain't cheap.
    Also, do the world a favor, if you decide to own any gun, get training and practice, practice and practice. A thousand rounds is a good start.
    Owning a gun ain't no video game. Pull the trigger and that bullet ain't coming back no matter how many times you say sorry.

  • In reply to Jedthro:

    i agree, i was a little taken back by her comment. I've been shooting since I was 8. I've put a thousand down range in the last 5 months alone.

    Your 3rd to last and last comment is why i'll never carry in public.

  • Emery has one hell of a job next year retaining or keeping at least half of these players...

    Cutler, Tillman, Jennings, Melton, Hester, Garza, Webb, Wootton, and Wright.

    Besides Garza and possibly Webb, everyone else could step.

  • With any luck, we won't care at all about Webb nor Wright. With luck, we *will* care about Hester but to do so we need a top-3 returner out of him (which contrary to the opinion of many here, would be good enough to justify keeping him, albeit at a lower salary).

    Garza should not be signed next year. He needs to hang up the cleats. I imagine a ring would help there. :-)

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Perhaps I'm being unfair to Major, but I really don't think the guy has it.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    PFF had Major listed as a "above" average starter and Conte was listed as "average."

    Something to think about.

    I imagine this will all come down to one individual.. Jay. Cutler.

  • thy are both majorly average.

    (Did you see how I did that Erik... did you?)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You're just saying that to hide the Hardin love.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    you got my johnny. Was it that transparent?

    Also trying to hide the hayden love below.


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Just kidding my man. I think Pringles/Conte could have a B+/A- type year together.

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Steltz can bring it this year. Hardin might surprise a few. I'm psyched about our defense this year, the jury is still out on the offense.

  • Steltz is gone.

    Hardin? Fucking seriously Irish? Seriously?!? Common dude, what ar you smoking maingses?

  • Cutler will get franchised.

    Tillman, sadly, will be gone.

    Jennings will stay because he's younger.

    Melton won't get franchised, but 50/50 he resigns.

    Hester is gone unless he finds his old form. He might even be a surprise cut this year.

    Garza is gone. This will be a priority FA position next year.

    Wooten will be locked up.

    Wright will be resigned for Burnett money, unless he goes crazy this year and has like 10 ints.

    Pepp, who will cost us $17M next year might be gone too. Depends on how he performs this year.

    I think he has to get at least 8 sacks.

    But even if he gets 8 sacks, if Wooten and, ahem, Chicken Dinner blow up this year, that still might not be enough.

    I also think this is Bush is on the bubble next year, esp if he gets hurt again.

    I wanted a studly raw angry college Barber this year, but the draft just didn't break that way for us, but next year I expect us to use a mid rounder to get a solid HB prospect for cheap to groom behind Forte.

  • Oh, and Briggs gone too (We didn't get Bostic, Greene, Anderson and D.J. for no reason this offseason).

  • I'm not convinced Peanut is gone after this year. He plays at an insanely high level + he neutralizes Megatron twice a year. I'm guessing Pep will be gone, I could see Bush getting cut, who knows about Cutler (other than Johnny), same with Earl. I'm not convinced Briggs will be gone. Both Williams and Anderson are on 1-year deals. They are basically insurance policies in case Bostic and Greene don't cut it. If Melton continues to improve why wouldn't they want to lock him up? It's going to be interesting for sure.

  • 4ever85, I saw your post about writing, just email me when you want to start.

  • did he hurt your feelings, cause he kinda hurt mine for you.

    I think you should get to steppin'

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He hurt your feelings for me?

    Did I read that correctly?


  • yes erik, as one of the young pups on the blog, us old guys try to watch out for you, provide you with sage advice (that you seldom follow, aka, you got married.. juuust kidding), and in general hope for the best for you.

    also, the world and life is a cruel, fickle, mistress.

  • Cool. Will do when there's actually something to write on or if something clicks in my mind.

  • Go ahead a sign up on the site or send me your email. I have a some ideas posted on my dashboard that you might want to write about.

    Just sayin..

  • http://www.today.com/tech/reddit-users-spot-message-hospital-window-send-2-year-old-6C10642466

    this is the kind of shit that makes me want to fucking cry. You want to talk about not fair. 2... fucking2.

    I can't even think about it man. fucken a life's not fair sometimes.

    (nice of people to send pizzas though...if you can get a smile from this story)

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That's awesome.

  • I think what this country needs right now is some healing. Cross-race connections... and relations building.

    Ok, I just erased a long paragraph filled to the brim with sexual innuendos about me heading up 'relations'. But it's just too much.

    I'll just come out and say it... this chick is WAAAY fucking sexy (intelligence can be so attractive can't it? Also, being very attractive can also make you attractive): http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2013/07/12/erin-mattingly-dnt-zimmermans-legal-intern.cnn

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Chocolate. I see what you did there MB, I would have bet my fundamentals she was going to be blonde.

  • hahahaha... naw man. I don't discriminate where hotness is involved.

    I do have predispositions that are just there for me... big boobies turn my crank. Not sure what it is, just love love love them. The way they look, feel, smell... fucking awesome. A great set of boobies can easily bump a chick at least a point or two.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    f'instance... and sadly, I'm probably a shade too old. And a lot not rich enough...


  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Chicks like that are always pestering me. And I always say no because time spent with them is time away DBB. In the real world, you have to establish priorities...

  • ok, fine.

    I have a football question that I know, I just want to make sure of and I don't feel like looking it up.

    If you sign the tag, are you guaranteed the entire amount up front for that year... are there any injury protection clauses or anything like that?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i think it's guaranteed

  • I know the Pro Bowl is over-rated. but Melton made it in his second year at DT. The dude has major upside and he's young. He's still learning the position and probably 2-3 years from his prime. I think he's gonna be better this year, between very good and great.

    I'm fine with Conte and Wright, if they can stay healthy. That seems to be a problem with safeties across the league these days. I'm more concerned with who is playing nickleback. That seemed to be a weakness last year.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    i agree Cor, Hayden shit the bed, especially against the Hawks

  • Hayden moved to take timmy's spot while he was out for what 3-4 weeks? He was abject doggie poopy. He fucking sucked. Every big throwing gain or TD or first down was to that POS's man.

    He sucks ass and should not be on this team next year. But we traded or let walk correy G and the other dude (can't even remember his name now). Anyway, have I mentioned how fucking happy I am the JA/lovie era is done

    GFinally, speaking of the hawks, I now have two good friends who are hawks fans (the other inside MLB from high school moved back down to SD and he's a big hawks fan. So now I have two idiots telling me the hawks are gonna win the SB and the bears suck. Yeah me.

    Aaaaaanyway, I bring it up because I always conceed to them that they have the best fucking DBackfield in the nfl in my mind. Cam Chancellor is one of my favorite players right now. The guy is a fucking ANIMAL.

    Can you imagine our dbf with the nut, timmyj, and cam chancellor and earl T? Fuuuuuuuck.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hawks are the #1 team on my board. That's a hard team to compete with now.

  • 9ers are more complete in my mind, but hawks more dangerous at any point.

  • I think a big assumption is that Russell Wilson is not a one-hit wonder. I'm not saying he is, but a lot of their success was built on him. The competition will adapt.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Anyone remember when Tim Jenings sucked? Because he did. Backup corners are the least of our worries mang, it's Robocrap at center that this baby hinges on. Full-on all that matters. Week one will tell us what we already know. Garza is fucked.

  • He was injured my man. Hayden wasn't injured, he just sucks.

    Hardin on the otherhand has never NOT been injured... so there's that. Maybe he's the best at rehab irish. Yay!!!!

    "No, actually I don't... I play real sports. Not trying to be the best at exercising"

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Brandon Hardin, your BFF, sends you a postcard.


    The guy I think will become a fan fav is Zbikowski.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'd love to see this Hardin guy live up to Urlacher's props that he gave him. A Hardin/Steltz safety pairing isn't out of the question. Really excited to see how the new LBs work out - they all look good on paper thus far (rooks), the vets too. Not long now ....

  • Hardin/Steltz? There are three safeties with the Bears that are better, faster, stronger, more experienced, and more durable. Why do you keep talking about Steltz as though he's good? What has he ever done to convince you he can play. I'm with you on Garza but I can't get my head around your Steltz love. Is he even a Bear anymore? I don't even know if the guy's on the roster.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    exactly johnny. and no, he's not. got cut lat year if memory serves.

    Irish, wtf maingses?!

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    I don't remember Steltz getting cut. He sticks around because of specials, but we'll see if that is enough now.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    According to the Bears site, he's on the roster...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Try living in Seattle, bro.

  • no thanks.

    Did you get my app recs last thread?

  • I'm not a fan, but how cool is this?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    That is sweet. I unexpectedly got to hang out with one of my favorite bands after a show a few years ago, and it's an experience I'll never forget.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Reminiscent of defensive end, Willie Davis, hitching a ride with a fan to the "Ice Bowl" game in '67 becuase his own car wouldn't start.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I imagine if it had been Bob Lilly, he'd have had to hail a cab.

  • I don't want to be the one to bring this back into a new thread, but it's pretty interesting.


    I liked this, "I think she felt inadequate toward everyone because of her education and her communication skills."

    Oh the irony.

  • Fair assessment on the Melton situation, Blogfather.

    Not unreasonable for the Bears to say...

    "Let's see how he does with bulls-eye on his chest."

  • This might seem crazy, but I think Melton is making an astronomical demand knowing that Stein won't cave in so that he can play out the year franchised, and take off somewhere else next year for major mula (because I seriously doubt the Bears will franchise Melton twice. That would cost $10.14M).

    Melton himself observed, "There are a lot of decisions to be made, especially after this season,'' Melton noted. "A lot of the defensive guys, their contracts are going to be up after the season. … Guys like Peanut (Tillman) and Major (Wright). There are just a ton of decisions to be made.''

    That's not too mention Cutler who will be the franchise priority costing $15M, or Pepp who will cost about $17M.

    Lovie's gone, and Melton (and a few others), might want to go to wherever Lovie ends up next year, or even go to Dallas with Marinelli.

    That's just the feeling I get.

    Then, who will be our 3 tech DT?

  • Also, Burnett (remember the better safety that the Pack jumped over Angelo for?) just got a new contract that no doubt Wright will mirror.

    It's a four-year contract extension worth $24.75 million, with $8.25 million guaranteed

    Melton might be wanting Geno Atkins money. IF that's the case, enjoy Melton this year cuz he gone next year.

  • Cutty has to get more than Stafford. He has to. I wouldn't pay diddly for Pep next year, although when Pep isn't on the field getting double-teams, you know Melton is going to get swallowed up.

  • Getting to the big dance would put an end to all that ship jumping, methinks.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Maybe, SC.

    But a lot of times it works the opposite. A team wins the SB, and everybody on that team wants to cash in FA the following season.

    Look at what happened to the Ravens.

    Ellerbe jumped ship to the Fins. Kruger to the Browns. Heck, even THE Raven face Ed Reed went for the money in Texas.

    Part of that is because Joe Flacco won the sweepstakes, but we are in exactly the same position with Cutler this year.

    That (plus retirements) tend to happen to SB winning teams, which is why it's so hard to repeat in the modern era.

    What a team needs to do to repeat is draft really well, and coach up those draft picks, and win right away while a lot of those players are still under their rookie contracts.

    That's why the 9ers and Seahawks are going to be dangerous for years to come, and if either win it this year, they'll be set for a repeat next season too.

  • Or have a really awesome QB. Don't think we got one. Hope I'm wrong as hell.

  • http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000217898/article/top-10-nfl-salarycap-numbers-quarterbacks-on-top

    Pep is into us for $16 million ?? Methinks with Cutty's contract coming up ... Mr. Peppers is gone at season's end. Remember Stafford has one winning season and is the second highest paid QB in the league. We can't have two guys on t he same team getting that kind of moolah.

  • Why does Cutler need to be paid more than Stafford? Just because Detroit made a stupid move does not mean the Bears need to follow suit.

    Will Peppers be worth $17M? Probably not.
    Will Cutler be worth $17M? Who knows.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I think Cutty puts up about 3900yds this year and about 28TD's. if he keeps the INT's under 10 we are in the NFC Championship game.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Because thier fans love him. That's $$$$$ in the bank for the front office.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    *That* makes sense, Trac. Mucho sense.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Unfortunately, SC, that's the way the league works. Horrible teams give out bad contracts for various reasons, but other players still use those as benchmarks for their own negotiations.

    The Lions handed out that bad contract to Stafford because they needed to create some cap space in the next two years for Suh and some other players.

    The Cowboys overpaid Romo because Jerry's an idiot.

    But agent's will use those contracts as "starting points" for Cutler's negotiations. The agent will walk right in and the first thing he's going to ask, "you really think Stafford and Romo are worth more than Cutler, really?" and that's that.

    However, Cutler already has stated that he'd take a little bit of a home town discount. If memory serves correct, I think he said about 10%, which should keep him from going over the $20M/yr range.

    Unless, of course, he wins the SB, then it's Flacco money.

    And if Cutler has 28TDs and 10 or less ints this season, we all gotta pitch in and buy Johnny a golden football with the inscription, "I told ya so," - signed, Jay Cutler.

  • Football is upon us boys. Long live the seam route to Black Unicorn. The new Dez Clark!!! Go watch Cutler rape the seam with Olsen and realize that it's about to happen even worse because safeties now have to worry about Marshall and Jeffrey.

  • dezzy!!!!!

  • Not to mention that the Black Uni won't fall down immediately like it's a Nuclear Bomb drill once the ball touches his hands like Olson.

    Ahhhh, I want football already. Even preseason games are beginning to look appetizing to my football starved cranium.

  • Or, duck and cover like in a Volcano drill.


  • What? Like this?

    I don't get all the hate for Olsen

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    i actually liked olsen. Can't wait for Bennett.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Neither do I. He was an adequate blocker and a decent receiver. + he had mojo with Jay. I remember an awful lot of love on here for Kellen Davis trying to get Olsen out the door. Can't say that worked our real well.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Yeah, I am ashamed to say that I believed in KD after a couple of his rumbling, bumbling TD catches.
    Then he actually got targeted on a regular basis and we realized he had eaten a few thermometers as a child.

  • I can't wait until Unicorn catches a quick seam pass, breaks a tackle by a safety or nickel and takes it to the house.

  • Dez Clark: Class act.

  • Also, Stafford, Suh and Megatron were part of the old rookie salary structure so they were making insane money from the start. Hard to give those guys pay cuts.

    I agree they were nuts to re-up Stafford with 2 years left on his deal but they are the Kitties.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    His agent - and agents don't listen to their clients - will look at Stafford who has had one winning season to his name, and do the math. He managed to get the ball into CJ's hands five times for TDs last season. Jay has done and won more than Stafford.

  • I just penned the greatest piece of all time debunking the myth of the "elite" and "franchise" quarterback. I lost the entire 16 paragraph document with the last errant keystroke. I feel like someone ripped out my heart.

    I used the examples of Montana, Rodgers, Brady, Terry Bradshaw, Kaepernick, Steve Young, Cutler,Warner to illustrate the need of the QB to have certain pieces of the football pie available to them in order to be successfull.

    Montana - had scheme, playcalling, weapons, line, run game, continuity
    Rodgers - had scheme, playcalling, weapons, continuity
    Brady - had scheme, playcalling, line, continuity
    Bradshaw - had weapons, line, run game, continuity
    Kaepernick - had scheme, playcalling, weapons, line, run game
    Steve Young - had scheme, playcalling, weapons, line, run game, continuity
    Warner - had scheme, playcalling, weapons, line, run game/RB

    Cutler - where was the scheme to exploit positives and reduce negatives? where was the playcalling from Tice? No offensive line, no consistent run game that teams had to worry about, no continuity.

    The Bears have finally started to address the items that are needed to be consistently successfull. They have finally started to surround the QB with aspects of the game that all successfull QB's have known. That is why this year will be better.

  • You're right Johnny, but HOW much better (can't be worse, god forbid)?

    Look at those guys you mentioned.

    Montana sat behind Steve DeBerg the first year (You didn't think you were going to get a Steve DeBerg reference today, did ya?)

    Rodgers sat behind NeedleDick for like 2 years.

    Brady threw THREE passes total his rookie year behind Bledsoe.

    Bradshaw sat behind Terry Hanratty his rookie yr (had to Wiki that), then sucked so bad early on that Pittsburgh fans almost ran him out of town (side note, the Bears lost a coin flip to Pittsburgh to get Bradshaw that draft. Talk about Fortune).

    Harbaugh sagely sat Kaepernick until he was given a perfect pretext to sit Smith.

    Young held the clipboard for Montana for a few years.

    Warner is the only one who came in like gangbuster.

    He was older too, just like Jay, so if there's a precedent to follow, Warner would be it.

    Some might cite the recent examples of RG3 and Wilson hitting it off in their first years, but both of them are recent exceptions, and both of them had good years - FOR Rooks.

    What I'm saying is that history has proven that "continuity" takes time to develop. This might not be popular, but I think Trestman year two will be much improved over the 1st year where everyone is still learning the terminology, routes, assignments ect -

    However, we do have a good D and specials to get us in position to win a lot of games, so I do have optimism, but it's a cautious optimism.

    I could be wrong though. Maybe in the modern NFL offenses can be installed much more quickly then in the past. Besides, if Martz did it with Warner, then Trestman might be able to do it with Cutler.

    Keep hope alive!

  • you what dey say, everybody gotta have dream.

  • Well thought out argument, 4ever 85, however, I submit that even had if the Bears lost that game to the Steelers in '69 and drafted Bradshaw with that pick, with the Bears' staff at the time (The "dazed & Confused" Gibron Regime) it would have just been "Bobby Douglass, Part II".

    Plus, there's no guarantee they would have even taken Bradshaw since they traded their #1 pick for that draft anyaway.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:


    Terry did not have the best of rookie years. If you want to know why Bradshaw became successful, look here
    and scroll down to 1974. I don't know what that guy Allen did, but 4 of 5 with those little letters after them?!? Are you *fucking kidding*?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Interesting, Albert. I admit I'm not old enough to know those 70s Bears, but you don't think the Bears would have drafted Bradshaw had they owned the #1 pick?

    I thought Bradshaw was the consensus #1 that year, the Luck of that draft, so to speak.

    Maybe in a parallel universe the Bears won 4 SBs instead of the Steelers that decade...or maybe Bradshaw would be just another balding redneck who no one remembers doing fast food commercials...

  • Warner did NOT have an offensive line. What he had was the most uncanny accuracy out to about 15-20 yards.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Orlando Pace - Hall of Fame
    Adam Timmerman - multiple Pro Bowls and was an All Pro
    Fred Miller
    Ryan Tucker
    Tom Nutten
    Andy McCollum

    Dude, 3 consecutive seasons of 500pts.

  • Okay, I stand corrected. What I remember, though, is that crazy accuracy he brought on short routes from the arena league. It seemed he always hit his receiver in stride in the hands the first year or two.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    there is no doubt that Warner was crazy accurate and had great timing.

  • Every time I rembember Warner, I picture him in the shotgun. Every time I think of Cutty, I picture him running for his life or being sacked. I sure hope Trestman can change that.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    You are both correct.

    Warner had an awesome line led by Orlando Pace who could allow the 7 step mad Marts drop AND Warner had great accuracy/anticipation.

    That's something Martz was trying to teach Cutler, but some QBs are better at it than others, esp the ones with weaker arms who MUST rely on precise routes and anticipation.

    Faulk was also an excellent pass blocker, and a great pass catcher, so that slowed down the pass rusher a lot because a bubble screen to Faulk could end up as a TD in his prime.

    That O was really fun to watch. Gotta give Martz credit, he even made the Bears score about 30 for a few weeks before Cutler went down.

    But Cutler had Webb and not Orlando Pace.

    I think that the Martz system can still work, but he needs a HOF LT, a HOF QB, a HOF HB, and border line HOF WRs like Holt.

    Then again, almost any system with those ingredients can succeed!

  • To say nothing of a 35-8 record and 5-2 in the playoffs with a ring.

  • Kaepernick? Are we putting him in the HOF already? Okay.
    Terry Bradshaw? I don't think I've ever heard his name mentioned in tterms of greatness. The team he was on was great.

    When do QBs get their dues for just being excellent? Jerry Rice somehow ended up as the greatest player of all time according to NFL.COM. when he was nowhere near as dominant as Hutson ... if Joe Cool isn't throwing him the ball is he even remembered?

    How can there not be elite QBs? How is that a myth? There clearly are elite QBs, although which are elite is a matter of opinion. Of course QBs need other pieces - they're not going to throw the ball to themselves, block etc.

    The BEars have NOT addressed Cutler's needs, namely the O-line. He doesn't have a center, and Webb is at RT ... where he was officially the worst player in the NFL at that position when he played it last.

  • i included Kaepernick to show that you don't have to be Joe Montana to be successfull as long as you have fucking awesome dudes around you and a great gameplan

  • Are the Niners that good? I'd love to play them for bragging rights. Hawks, different story.

  • Bradshaw found ways to get the ball into the endzone. 4 SB rings? Gotta give Bradshaw props. He was a winner.

  • Here's an article that talks about the Bears linebacker situation. With the new version of Urlacher and same old Roach did we get better or worse?


    The numbers seem to suggest that we upgraded the shit out of the position this offseason and added guys that know the LB position and know how to blitz as well.

    Very excite.

  • Should I read the last sentence with a Kazakhansti accent?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Speaking of excite, in nearly 40 years of driving I've seen exactly two bumper stickers I would consider putting on my car. One I saw today.

    It read:

    Support our troops.
    We will need them to overthrow the government.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    That one's very popular in Egypt.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    veeeery exccccciiiiite.


    (that's for shady.... you miss talking to me live while we keel each other don't you)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You miss being a video game degenerate, don't you?

  • In reply to Shady:

    yes. yes I do.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    of course

  • T minus 10 days and counting....

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    so close yet so far away. 10days is an eternity.

  • Hey you Chicago peeps, I'm looking for some advice. I'm going to see the Allman Brothers at the Chicago Theater on August 20th. Staying at the Congress Plaza Hotel. We'll probably grab a quick bite to eat before the show as time will be limited and don't want to ruin whatever buzz I'm working on, but looking for a good Greek joint downtown for after the show. I'll be ready for a big meal - maybe a gyro and spinach pie or something similar. Any suggestions would be appreciated. It doesn't have to be Greek food.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    go greek.

    The Greek Islands. Trust me.

  • Thanks Waffle. I mapped it out, and I think that will be the plan. I'm assuming that's not the part of Halstead St. that you talked about filming and possibly dying on, right?

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    lol, no, you're safe in greektown. Totally different part of Chicago.

  • I second that Waffle! Parthenon aint bad either.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    agreed Murph, Parthenon is badass.

  • Fuck I need some hot gyros inside of me now, lunchtime bitches. Chuck Wagon in Wilmette is still the best.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Irivings For Red Hot Lovers

  • Irvings

  • Oh hells jes, they make the hell out of a Chicago style micro-pig dog and their cheddar fries are legendary.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    Walk a couple blocks up to Jackson Ave around Randolph and grab yourself a great sub sandwich at Fontanos (the Beltbuster). And for a great dog, there's a Little Louie's, I think, right around the corner from there on Randolph. Louie's was originally in the north suburbs (Northbrook and Glenview) and was a staple of my teenage diet but later on opened a location downtown. When I make my infrequent visits back home, I always make a point of hitting both those places...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Thanks Tobi, maybe I'll hit up Fontanos before the show or lunch the next day.

  • MB, seen this tonight and though of you. Ain't I sweet?


  • In reply to The Fifth:


    Thanks Corm.

  • http://www.tmz.com/2013/07/16/brandon-marshall-chicago-bears-playboy-mansion-party/

    Pilates bitch. Bang! Bang!

  • In reply to Shady:

    Actually, pilates does kick ass. And the classes are usually 90%+ women

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Thought you might like this stuff.


  • In reply to The Fifth:

    Nice voice. This French chick Zaz has a crazy good voice.


  • In reply to The Fifth:

    Not bad.

    Coming back at ya, something of a little different ilk. I was looking for something else and stumbled upon this guy en passant, Pathetically, I'd never heard of him. As luck would have it, he's in Atlanta this Sunday. S'pose I should go...


  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Listened to a few bits and pieces of this around minutes 14 and 46). Thinking the whole will be worth the time...

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I've seen John Butler Trio on a lot of festival line-ups but never heard them before last night. I watched about an hour of a concert and really enjoyed it. They are right up my alley. I'd definitely pay money to go see them. Where about are you in SC?

  • In reply to Shady:

    Glad to hear Beast is into pilates. Sad to see the 'fro go.

  • Anyone see Pacific Rim yet?

  • Shit.. I forgot how dirty minded this blog is.. Oh, well.

  • I once was conversing with a girl on the interwebs, told a joke, and typed "rim shot" - she asked, "is that a penis joke?" I replied, "maybe" and sent her a link to this


    She was disappointed.

  • Hee hee. No, not yet. Downloading the new Deniro/Travolta film, Killing season though. Pacific Rim sounds a bit like that turkey 'Battleship' ?

  • Pacific Rim is the perfect combination of Spectreman and Battleship. Nothing makes my day like watching big ass robots take on big ass monsters. It was almost like watching a live action version of Robotech.

  • Jason La Canfora retweeted :

    Jadeveon Clowney on how he stays out of trouble. "Just Stay out of bars and stay off Twitter."

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I guess Clowney doesn't know you can now confess on twitter #urforgivenmyson40hailmarysand5ourfathers

  • Why? Because it's the offseason, that's why.

    But some days I feel like this guy


  • That is definitely funny...

  • I love watching those epic fail compilations. Makes you feel smart.

  • We’re not in a rebuild mode. We don’t have time to rebuild. We’re in the winning now business. The win RIGHT now business.”

    -Peanut Tillman

    Fuck Yeah.

  • Heck yeah. Canning Lovie was the ultimate win now move. He he. I really like the guy as a man but he didn't have a clue when it came to building an offense.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Nor, perhaps more importantly, was he able to find an OC that knew how.

  • Ah man I love Peanut! Gonn have to get another Peanut tshirt this season.

  • i'm so pumped to watch the O but watching the D will be just as fun. Those guys are going to be flying around and now our linebackers will be blitzing as well. DJ Williams flying at the QB is a good thing.

    Melton and Paea need to have great years because that means Peppers, Woot and Shea will have great years.

    As an OC if you are worried about Melton and Paea knifing in then you need to plug the middle, if you plug the middle then you open up the DE's to attack from the outside, if you chip the DE's with backs then you open up a middle linebacker blitzing right up the middle.......

    Pick how you want to get it man, knife, gun or blunt object.

  • Colonel Mustard in the conservatory with the candelabra.

  • Real football stuff happening soon, less than one week from now.

    Funny part is how I'm so excited this time of year for it too start, then time goes into warp speed and next thing ya know it's like week 10. Strange phenominom. Point is- offseason feels like it's eternal.

  • In reply to ben in norcal:

    'to start'

  • From the "It seemed like a good idea at a time" depertment...

    Tampa Kicker, Connor Barth donated his time to play in a charity basketball game.

    He's also donated a year of his career after tearing the achillies tendon on his right (kicking) leg.


    Is it just me or does there seem to be a LOT more torn achillies going around these days?

    Oh, T minus 9 days, and counting...

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I think all the weight lifting tightens the muscles and the players don't do enough calisthenics or stretching.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    those tendons are also carrying so much weight these days. the stress on those tensons must be impressive

  • There.can.be.only.one. DITKA!


    This guy is real. That's why I love him.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Great clip.

    Lovie always looked the same after a win as he did a loss, if you didn't know the score you wouldn't know the difference. No emotion. Football is emotion and blood and sweat and tears. Ditka was real with the media. Lovie was a players' coach? Ditka was a player-coach, give me that kind any day of the week. Asking others to do what you couldn't do yourself never rings true. Few could do it.

    This was one of his shorter sweeter pressers. Next!


  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEYUFJcbmeI

  • Classic.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Painful. lol. That interview must have felt like eternity for Iron Mike. Ha ha.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3_kktVNxa4

    This is norv turner's family.

    Exhibit one for rich people with too much time and money on their hands. Fucking so dumb.

  • This sounds vaguely familiar...I wonder who was saying the same thing a couple of months ago?

    "In the second round of this year’s Draft, the Bears drafted Jon Bostic to play inside. In the tape work I did I felt that Bostic would be better off at Sam or Will. I didn’t see the take-on skills that I like a good Mike to have. "


  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I'm not saying I'm right, but I'm not a voice in the wilderness.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I was with you MBHaP, I'd e very surprised if a rook came in and took over MLB duties. So no, you're not a voice alone in the wilderness. We are together, alone, cold and naked in the wilderness. Kind of like that new reality show on the discovery channel.

  • In reply to Shady:

    naked... together... in the wilderness... alone without anyone near by to maybe, see or hear or smell anything.


    And DJ WIlliams is the man, but bostic looks like much more of a prototypical IMLB to me... much more than lach did coming into the league. but WTF do I know.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You are both freaking me out a little.
    Maybe it's just the package I got in the mail today.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    oh jesus... don't tell me it was from her?!

    Take it RIGHT to the FBI head office please rabbit. And don't breath deeply within 15 feet of it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yup. Threw it in a closet. Didn't open it.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Dude... THROW IT AWAY!!!

    Was it ticking?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    No ticking, but I think you're right. I just wanted to make sure I didn't dispose of any evidence if I have to go visit the local authorities.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    ahhhh, good call. take it to the cops and tell them the story and ask them to open it.

    Is radar there? Like recently?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    ohhh naaaaawwwww noooo whaaaat's in the boooooox


  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Urlacher was also projected by everyone to be an OLB.....uh...then he's going to the HOF possibly as a MLB.

    Urlachers's "take-on" skills sucked balls but it worked out okay for him.

    Greg Gabriel is an unemployed scout. He's unemployed for a reason.

  • Fair enough. I still would put money down that Bostic is our starter at Will in 2014 or 2015.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I agree that Bostic will be the Will if DJ leaves for one last longer term contract after this year.. I personally think DJ will do well enough to earn a little extension if he stays healthy.

    I want DJ at the Mike this season, Anderson and Sam and Briggsy at the Will.

  • agree.

  • ... and we've still got crazy depth with Bostic, Greene ...and eh ... the other guy.

  • Watch the closing speed here with McClellin. If this guy can put on some more muscle he could be used effectively on stunts and blitzing form the LB position.


    This speed reminded me a bit of Urlacher. Like a cheetah bringing down an antelope.....a shitty antelope that couldn't beat 1 AFC West team to get us to the fucking playoffs.

  • Here's a quick vid of Pep. Here's to the man:


    I can't wait to see what he does this year.

  • OMMFG am I ready for football season to start... tomorrow.

    btw, 99 got a lot of snaps. if he can be used correctly the might be effective... mo fo is fast. Like a much smaller, much less athletic and effective JJ Watt...


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If Shea can top out at 270 and keep alot of the bounce in his step he should be good to go. He's probably 260 at this point so maybe one more year and he'll hit his stride. I hope he brings 8+ sacks and a whole lot of hurries this year.

  • ...or get him to shed a few pounds and draft a nose tackle next year.

  • Haven't been around much so this may have been posted. But did you hear the San Francisco news gaffe about the Asianic flight that crashed in SF last week because it was flying to low?

    Ho Li Fuk this is bad:


    It's a real life anchorman scenario.

  • The same station was doin happy birthday wishes on air, and the weather guy wished a Happy Birthday to Hugh Jaynus, the anchors immediately lost it and the weatherman took a bit to understand what just happened. http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_sr5r9qzk/

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    i love the weatherman, he's giggling like a giddy little schoolgirl

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    so fucking awesome.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlpyOqnuxIM&NR=1&feature=fvwp

    know what I got from this vid? Know what?

    That mike tice is a fucking cunt and why the HELL did we trade #44. That guy was a fucking animal. What a fucking joke. My god man. the horror.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    For Evan Rodriquez! (smh).

    If it makes you feel better, my FF team 85clobberingClutts won the Auction League.

    Geeet some!

    We need to bring Clutts back. To me, it's as obvious as not starting Hester at WR.

    I also wouldn't mind Vonta Leach or Lawrence Vickers at FB (true FB, not H-back) to maul their way while Forte and Bush glide on through.

    They're both still FAs.

    Remember, the 9ers had Tom Rathman at FB and the Cowboys had Moose Johnston at FB in their West Coast attacks, so it can work.

    Goaline and short downs still need to improve.

  • Speaking of which, who is organizing DBBFFL this year?

  • In reply to Shady:

    Irish ran the snake draft league, and I think Ender ran the auction league, and they were both fun.

    There was another league too, but I forgot who ran that one since I wasn't in it.

    If Irish and Ender run those again, I'm in.

    HOWEVER, ESPN has switched over to Facebook, so I'm not sure if that's gonna affect the FF leagues it runs (whether one would join a league through a FB account).

    Does someone know about that?

    It's getting close to FF draft time, folks....

  • Oh yes, there will be leagues. Oh yes.

    Fuck Facebook though. ain't gonna happen. There's CBS and NFL.COM ....

  • do I remember... I was also a fullback in school and I took his number in Jr. high. Guy was a fucking Bad... ASS!


    I also loved Alstott: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RSf0c4a2RI

    Oh, and I found this on the side strip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGDFr-BXp0I

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You were a S AND a FB? WTF?

    I never heard of that one before. I played CB and WR (our school didn't have that many players), but S and FB tend to be very different body types.

    Alstott was also too. You're in good hands with Alstott (see what I did there?)

    I liked seeing the FBs blast ppl off the lines. I think that's why John "The Terminator" Conners became the fan hit for hard knocks a few seasons back.

    Sad to see them going the way of the Dodo bird in place of H-back types like Rodriguez and Hernandez (How's that working out?)

    Maybe because they can also play specials?

    But Clutts had soft hands too, and just looked to hit whoever was in his vicinity like a little pitbull.

    Oh well. I don't think the Texans kept Clutts either. Sometimes I wonder what NFL coaches are really looking for.

  • Oh, and John Ritchie was the Raider's FB with Ganon, so I don't know why Trestman doesn't pull the trigger on Vonta Leach.

  • How much do the Bears still have left in the kitty? Aren't they right up against the salary cap wall?

  • I don't know why they wouldn't use J'Marcus Webb as a fullback. Play with this. Goal-line. I-formation. World Wide Webb opens the hole ... as Cutty hands it off to ... Henry Melton at halfback.

    Thoughts? Likey?

  • because he's a dogshit football player. He can't even play his supposed 'real' position well. why in god's name would you put that fat tub o shit where he needs to be fast!?!?

    I am starting to formulate a hypothesis bout you... You crazy maings.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    We're not handing it off to fatboy, just letting him run-block for our Henry.

    The double-Fridge I-Formation.

    Now go to Bed!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    But to be the lead blocker, Irish, he has to get there first. You gonna have Melton stand still for a couple seconds waiting for that to happen?

  • According to the Texans' website, he's still on their roster. Too bad, I'd love to see him back...

  • Naw, I was the weakside MLB in a 3-4 in HS my maings. I only moved to S in college cause I was only 5'9" 205.

    Too small for ILB or FB in college sadly.

  • we have a true fullback already. Tony Fiametta. Total brickhead blocking machine.

  • I found this article on Fiametta.


    Fiammetta cleared the way for Murray his break out season (b4 injury). But then, Fiammetta mysteriously missed some practices and the Cowboys decided to sign Vickers (who paved the way for Foster) and release Fiammetta.

    But the Boys released Vickers this year, so maybe he's not as much of an upgrade over Fiammetta as I thought.

    However, Vontae Leach is still out there. Maybe he's just too old (32, I think) or too expensive (like Tobi mentioned, we're pretty tight against the cap).

    Or maybe the Bears are waiting for the Texans (Clutts) or some other team to release a FB.

  • Did the Cowboys really run a West Coast offense? I thought Norv Turner was more from the Air Coryell tree. I might be wrong, but I never thought those great Cowboys teams were a West Coast offense. They pounded the ball and seemed to run more vertical routes.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    Yeah, you're right. It was more Air Coryell, but Aikman didn't have an arm like Rivers. Aikman's game was based on short-mid accuracy. I don't ever remember him throwing bombs like Rivers did under Norv.

    Usually it was 3 step drops and throw it to Irvin (who was a lot like Marshall) or Harper and let them get YAC, Novacek or dump it off to Emmitt.

    We have our own "triplets" in Marshall, Bennett and Forte, and I even though the Boys technically ran a Norv O, it was more underneath routes.

    Ironically, the Chargers are going back to that because River's shot-put throwing motion has got them worried that he can't chuck it like he used to.

    In other words, Rivers' arm is now Troy Aikman-esque, and their O will be modified to look more like the Boys in the 90s O, I contend. Their goal is to make Rivers hit 70%, which is definitely more west-coastish.


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    nice vid. I want Forte to catch 63+ balls this year. if he does we go to the playoffs because every fucking catch is a first down or a big gainer.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Its interesting how Emery has evolved the Bears WR philosophy.

    We used to have a bunch of "a bit short, but really fast, excellent from the slot" style receivers. Now, we're not sure if anyone will be a true speed threat, but we're just a dangerous high percentage group.

    Jeffery and Marshall are the big bodied guys that can come down with the ball. Bennett and Bennett are sure handed first down machines. And Forte is a solid dump off, short route option.

    We don't need to throw the ball 50 yards down the field because we're built to move the chains and convert, over and over again.

    Ironic - we're building exactly the kind of offense that's designed to defeat the Lovie Smith Cover-2.

  • jesus. smh


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The population of Wisconsin is 8 times larger than the city of Detroit. Governor Scott Walker took "drastic" measures to get rid of around a 4 billion dollar deficit and state workers went nuts, trying to recall him in the first year. They obviously didn't get it that he was trying to protect their pensions for the time being and not cut workers. That was lost on them.

    Detroit has an 18 billion dollar deficit. There is no way in hell they will ever fulfill their obligations. Part of the problem is demographics and part of the problem is the state and city workers help elect their employers. Of course they are going to campaign hard for the guy or gal that is going to give them more goodies. Defined benefit programs for government employees is out of control at the municipal, state, and federal levels. Lots of sweetheart deals when the economy was humming in the late 90's until the housing bubble exploded. Many of these employees are essentially retiring as millionaires based on their pensions and health care. A private sector person would need millions in the bank to sustain the lifestyle in retirement that many government workers get until they die.

    Due to modern medicine, people are living a lot longer. Life expectancy in the US is now close to 80 years old. So lets say you retire with a cushy defined benefit plan at 55 after 25-30 years of work, you and/or your spouse could be rewarded handsomely for the next 25 years. It's just not a realistic scenario.

    Detroit and Stockton and some other big California city are just the bellwether of things to come for other cities and states. Two of the states in the most trouble are California and Illinois. Politicians can only come up with gimmicks for so long before they have to pay the piper and face facts. Same thing goes for Wall Street.

    The government at all levels have become blood suckers. 15 years ago Lake County, IL was one of the 10 richest counties in America. Today, about 6-8 of the 20 richest counties in America surround Washington, DC. Mainly in northern Virginia. The idea of "government service", or "public service", has gone out the window.

    Ayn Rand was dead on right when she talked about the Virtue of Selfishness.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    Oy. This is so misplaced and misinformed it damaged my faith in the public education system and humanity in general. Unless youre a sophmore in High School and just getting into your Ayn Rand phase in which case I urge you to continue your educational journey.

  • Thanks for adding to the intellectual content of this discourse, Sac.

  • I stupidly threw in the Ayn Rand comment to rile people like you up. It had nothing to do with my main comment, so my bad.

    What part of my main argument is wrong? I love to debate, so I'm open to hearing new ideas and different points of view. I don't get offended. I like to think.

    Which Ayn Rand book(s) on the philosophy of Objectivism do you disagree with, and why? Have you read any of her works and came to your own conclusion, or just had them interpreted to you by other people?

    Your faith in the public education system in America should be damaged. It's a disgrace.

  • http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2013-forecast-Chicago-Bears.html

    pretty much spot on.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Only have two issues with that piece.

    "To say that Cutler has been a disappointment is an understatement."

    Due to being horizontal on the turf during most of his tenure, I strongly disagree. He has a QB rating of 100+ in the fourth quarter. When the line has managed to give him time, even with insane OCs and shitty WRs, he's been pretty special in making throws few can make IMHO.

    "Whoever ends up at Mike will have Lance Briggs next to him at Will linebacker."

    Eh, D.J. Williams ? Y'know, our middle linebacker.

  • I would like her to change my life dramatically


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    How most people watch those workout videos...


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    And how you watch those videos...


  • In reply to Shady:

    pretty much

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    holy fuck that chick is sexy.

  • yes. this. insane 12+ body right!?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    She'd better be careful, she could pop those fake breasts...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    lol, you hate fake breasts so much.

  • I do and I'm like a zealot about it too. Someone could be a 10 in every sense and if I subsequently found out they were enhanced, I would have zero interest. I don't know what's wrong with me, maybe therapy would help. If there is therapy for that...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Just re-watching the Sopranos from start to finish and the girls in Bada Bing don't do anything for me. Disgusting looking fake tits. They look like cartoons. Eugh. As God intended please .....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I'm with you Tobi. As I've said before, nothing tells me you're insecure and bad with money like a pair of $7,000 cans. And she's most likely not the brightest. Have you ever met someone with a phd and a pair of silicone sacks?

    But i do like them for the fact that they tell me which chicks to avoid. Like sketchers tell you someone knows they're out of shape and aknowldge the absolute most they are willing to do about it is wear some silly looking footwear.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    and I would try my hardest to Tobi. Thanks!

  • http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_sr5r9qzk/

    The same station that did the pilots name gaffe. This was a month before that.

  • I miss the good old days when athletes were seen and not heard...


    Just stop Brian. Just stop.

  • In reply to Shady:

    He's half-kidding. I'm sure he would be thrilled if they won the SB. It would be bittersweet but he'd be happy for his pals.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    He's the one that should be kicking himself in the ass.

    The dude could still be playing in a Bears' uniform and he turned it down. When it's all said and done, Urlacher made himself retire, not the game.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    agreed, i heard it, he's was kidding.

  • It seems Urlacher has said more in retirement than he did while playing for the Bears.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Look who did the interview. That guy's sole job is to be a jerk. He started his career on the site doing "hall of shame" type videos. It was like when they had Dennis Miller to MNF.

    I hate that kind of reporting.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Urlacher will have plenty of interviews with people who are looking for a sound byte to generate clicks on the internet, and it seems like every interview opportunity he gets Urlacher continues to handle the split with the Bears with low class.

    R2 is right. Urlacher had an opportunity to play for the Bears this year and he let his pride and ego get in the way. The offer he got from the Bears was more than any other team was willing to give him, yet he STILL felt disrespected. For him to blame Emery is immature and ignorant or how business is handled in the NFL and professional sports in general. My love for Urlacher the Hall of Fame, Ultimate Warriror Linebacker will always burn white hot, but my opinion of Brian off the field leaves a lot to be desired - like many professional athletes these days. But I guess that's just their nature.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Ignorant *OF* how bidness is handled.

  • In reply to Shady:

    1) Don't click on articles like that. They take stuff out of context (like sarcasm that doesn't show in print) and feed trolls. Don't feed the meta-trolls.

    2) Most pro athletes don't go out the way they want to. They all think they're worth more than the market will pay, and a lot of time they get replaced solely because the team wants to get young. He's in a very depressing stage of life right now - I'm willing to cut the guy a little slack personally.

    3) I agree, he could interview with more class. But meh, he's always been an honest interviewee; that's one of the things I like about him.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I don't disagree with your nicely laid out numerical arguments, but the point I am making is that he won't let it go. He was clearly bothered by it, like many athletes as you mentioned, but every opportunity he gets to bring it up he foments ill will towards Emery when he should really be blaming himself. You sure as hell don't see Lovie on TV bemoaning his divorce from the team, but then again he's always had more class than Brian. I just think this little distraction could continue to fester especially if the defense struggles this season. Brian just needs to go away for a while and stop talking to reporters, which is ironic, considering he never liked talking to the media as a player. But now that he's pissed at Emery and Trestman he's been more than happy to air his dirty laundry in public.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Yeah, I agree. Urlacher made a point to say it was the GM.

    Well, that GM made you an offer the other 31 GMs in the league didn't, FrankenLacher, even when he knew that you would be more a liability than your ego would let you admit.

    I don't take any thing he says too seriously, but singling out the GM is just bitter. As I tell my ex-es. GET OVER IT.

    I would like to know who the two guys are who he doesn't like in the organization though.

    My bet. Ted Phillips. Maybe, Cliff Stein (cuz he doesn't just hand out blank checks)?

  • In reply to Shady:

    Don't you just love Twitter?
    Best thing for American culture since 24 hour "news".

  • In reply to Shady:

    ""I'm going for them," Urlacher said. "A lot of my friends are still on the team. A lot of my good friends -- guys I played with for 10, 11 years -- so I'm still rooting for them. I hope they do well. They better not win the championship without me, 'cause then I'll be really pissed."

    Doesn't sound like bad beef, just honesty.

  • Wow, anyone else watching the Pats-Raiders "Tuck Rule" championship game?

    If the Bears follow that same blue-print, I predict a shit load of crossing routes, outs, slants and a mix of max and min protections.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they put Alshon in the X/Z and Marshall in the slot and run crosses for natural picks (maybe Forte motions to the other side against a LB or S).

  • you just gave me a boner.

  • Ganon also mentioned in the interviews that they were the best short yardage team that year, which gave me even more of a boner.

    I think it's been over 4 hours now - I may have to rush to the hospital.

    I think Cutler's completion percentage will return to pre-Bears form, hover around 63%.

    If Culter hits 65% and 10-12ints this year, we're winning a SB under Trestman.

    Maybe not this year, but very soon.

  • agreed

    Cutty this year :

    63% completion
    91 rating
    3900 yds

  • I'm excited to see a Bears offense under a QB minded head coach.

    Remember what it was like watching a legitimate #1 WR in a Bears uniform last season? Crazy, right? Well I think Trestman and Kromer are going to give Bears fans the opportunity to see what happens when a team is focused on maximizing the potential of a QB. Under previous regimes, the QB and offense were treated as an afterthought resulting in a clusterfuck operation posing as a legitimate NFL offense .

    Things are changing at Halas Hall.

  • In reply to Shady:

    The fucking center hasn't.

  • If Garza ain't cutting it Kromer won't hesitate to make a change. He did the same with Kruetz in 'Nawlins.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Kromer sat/cut Kruetz even though the Aints owed him like $4M that year too, if I remember correctly. (correction. It was $2M. I think he wanted 4 from the Bears).


  • I guess you can't blame him and Lach for trying to take a final stab at the cash. Probably more so for Lach than Olin. I just wish they would have not whined as much as they did.

  • "Hey, where'd all my money go?"


  • This is awesome.


  • In reply to Shady:

    that is probably the laziest, weakest 80's outfit I've ever seen.

    Socks and shoes he prolly wears every day, a dare t shirt... and... red. shorts.



    for $50 he could have gone as MC motherfucking Hammer!? now THAT would have been, "awesome".

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    btw, do you even dress up for Halloween, or are you one of those nerds who says it's too 'childish'.


    (yeeees, I still love you... just baiting you a little H)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No I don't fucking dress up for Halloween the hell is wrong with you?

  • In reply to Shady:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    How old are you MB? MC Hammer was early 90's amigo. You need a shirt sporting one of these guys http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/bb/viewtopic.php?topic=7746&forum=6

    A pair of Gotcha shorts and some bright neon Body Glove sunglasses. If you could find a Vission Street Wear painters hat then you would be the hero of the party.

    Or just go as the Ultimate Warrior

  • Sac!!!

    Dude, that gorilla one I remember well. Awesome. I'm 40. Shady's only 27 or something like that so he doesn't remember, since he was like 5 int he 80's.

    Hahahaha... some dude went as Randy Macho Man Savage to opening day at the races. He was a roid freak.

  • crazy-ass crackers


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Not gonna lie those nesting dolls blow my mind every time. How do they do it?!?

  • In reply to Shady:


  • awwwwww, isn't that cuuuuuute: https://twitter.com/NBASummerLeague/status/358005845965041664/photo/1

    Jesus. smh.

  • last one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8zTHS9r6E4

    That is awesome... shady.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That... Is what friends are for.

  • I dont know if any of you heard that Cubs song that Pearl Jam wrote and performed for them (All the Way) but who exactly do I have to kill to get them to make one for the Bears?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqHTScDBsDU

  • No. Hell no. That's the most depressing fucking song I've ever heard in my life. It was insult to injury in 2003 and I will not allow it to extend to our Chicago Bears.

  • In reply to Shady:


    you never go full retard shady.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    2003 what the fuck ever. I repress painful memories until they're brought up again on the interwebs.

  • In reply to Shady:

    here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJTNZqdv6es

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Um I like surfing.. but thats not surfing. Thats suicide!

  • yep. crazy

  • In reply to Shady:

    I dont care about the song itself. I mean what do we have to do to get a multi platinum artist to record a song for the Bears? That whole Whiz Khalifa Black and Yellow Steelers Mix blew up everywhere last year. Giants had a song as did the Cowboys and I think the Raiders have had like 3-4 songs now with Ice Cube doing the last one. Where's my Bears song?!

  • This guy is my new hero


  • You guys want to stay cool amid this heat wave? Drink a hot tea.


  • There's always a catch...

  • Anyone think the Bears will go undefeated this year? I'm calling it just so I can say I told you so "if" they do. Ha!

  • In reply to TracDaddy:


  • Anyone seen the "Kill List" ? Wow. Just .... wow. Not your average movie. Must see. Sensitive souls need not watch.

    DeNiro and Travolta's "Killing season" should be seen for whatever it is that Travolta has on his head. Is he capable of growing hair on his head/face? It looks like a skull cap and fake beard. Weird. Wasn't a bad movie.

    Just watched Season one of "Rome" (2005). Good stuff.

  • They went 10-6 without an O-line. I have a gut feeling this year is going to be special. Specially bad? Not likely. Specially good? You betcha!

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    No. Its only happened twice in the regular season, and we're not either of those teams.

    But I would love to see us go undefeated in the playoffs :)

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Bingo. Like the 9-7 NY Giants

  • Hey, since it's sloooow as molasses, I am going to shamelessly promote my very first blog piece over at Artoo and Ender's place.

    Here's a little cheese for the mouse trap.

    Cutler targeted Marshall 129 times. Who was 2nd? Earl Bennett with 39! To put that in perspective, look at the other NFCN 1st and 2nd targets. Lions: Megatron 122, Pettigrew 86; Pack: Cobb 76, Jones 65, Nelson 65; Vikes: Harvin 82 (got inj), Rudolph 65. That is a HUGE disparity, and while it’s an issue that Trestman want’s to remedy, fact is, if Marshall goes down, that takes away Cutler’s security blanket and forces him to throw to guys (outside of Earl) he’s played with for less than two seasons in a spanking new O. Not exactly an ideal formula.


  • Depth is an issue at every position except perhaps guard.

  • In reply to Shady:

    That article could have been much longer, but I'm I had to cut it down significantly.

    For the most part, Shady, you're right.

    But I feel more comfortable with a lot of other positions.

    Like you mentioned, OG since we seem to have a lot of options there.

    RT, IMO, is relatively deep too. Scott is a solid back-up vet, and if for some reason he goes down, we drafted a guy I really like who played RT in Jordon Mills. And if worse comes to worse, Brown played RT too in college. We had so much depth that we just gave away Carmi for a candy bar.

    S for the first time in years is looking pretty deep too. Steltz is solid, though not spectacular. He's been in the system for years, so he can step in and not look lost. Hardin is the upside guy who now has a year of actually learning the position. And I really like Zibokowski. So S IMO is rather deep.

    We're balls deep at LB, a position we were very thin at last year.

    D-line I'm ok with too mainly because I think Wooten will step up, and Shea will pitch in. I also feel like Paea, Ellis and Washington will contribute. One thing Lovie always did was keep the D-line cupboard full.

    HB is OK with Bush playing behind Forte. I would really like some other player behind Bush because last year both Bush and Forte seemed hobbled by injury, and they both have a lot of mileage, but two backs should be enough for any team.

    FB - every team has only one, if that.

    So, that pretty much left me with those other positions I talked about in the article: QB, CB, TE and WR.

    It's more about NOT being sold on the back-ups at those positions more than anything.

    For instance, a commentor over there DID like McCown as a back-up, so for him QB wasn't much of a depth issue.

    I, on the other hand, am a bit more skeptical about McCown being able to win more than one game, if that.

  • (Jeff has written about this in the past as well). The modern NLF is built so that it is impossible to have proven backups ready at every position. The combination of free agency, salary cap and roster limits makes that kind of a set up impossible.

    As for Marshall going down... Cutler had pretty decent numbers without Marshall on the team. Cutler is capable of getting the ball to other receivers and Trestman should be talented enough to make that happen. Losing Marshall would really hurt, but we could still score.

    Really, if we line up with Jeffery and E Bennett at WR, plus Forte, M Bennett and one of our other skill players... we're still not playing with the weakest lineup in football right now. In the passing game, who looks worse, us without Marshall or the Vikings?

    Or we fall on our faces. We wouldn't be the first team for that to happen after a major injury.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Yeah, I acknowledged in the articled that it is nigh impossible to keep EVERY position brimming with starters (I cited how the 9ers even with 28 draft picks in the last three years are suddenly without a #1 WR).

    I just wanted to gloss over the positions we are more thin at than others (IMO).

    Jeffery is the big question mark. I really like his upside, but getting injured twice right off the bat makes me worry he's one of those guys (like Hakeem Nicks) who will always miss a few games every year.

    Maybe it was getting used to NFL hits at his new weight (though there's not much one can do to avoid bone breaks - Mr. Glass).

    This year will be crucial for him.

    IF he can stay healthy, and catch about 65 balls, I would consider that a huge success, and next year WR won't be on my "thin" list.

    To be honest, I think outside those four positions I mentioned, the Bears are actually pretty deep.

  • With the coaching staff we now have on the offensive side of the ball, I'm not that worried about McCown as the #2. He is what he is but with a HC/OC who knows how to work with a QB's strengths and around his limitations, I think he would be more than serviceable and could win more than he lost...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    That's OK with me too. I'm curious to see what Blanchard looks like with a real offensive scheme and proper coaching.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Curiosity killed the cat! I want to see what Cutty can do with an OC that has a game plan and an o-line that actually has some athletes on it for a change.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Here's my question though Tobi. Did the Bears keep McCown because they sincerely believe he can win games, or did they keep McCown to appease Cutler and because he was the only back-up QB they could still afford (or both)?

    Obviously Emery wasn't too impressed with McCown last year or else he wouldn't have spent $3M on Campbell.

    Either way, I hope we don't have to find out!

  • That's a good question, Campbell might have been a knee jerk reaction after the Hanie debacle (an episode that I think contributed greatly to Angelo's fate). It doesn't hurt that McCown has Cutler's respect but if he was truly worthless, I don't think he'd still be around. Emery and Trestman both want Cutler to succeed and they're going to help him with support players, a realistic scheme and instruction/suggestions to the extent that he will take it/them. However, I don't see either men as ass kissers so I really don't think he's still around because he's Jay's buddy. Jay had a few other BFFs that are no longer around, Greg Olsen being the most notable.

    And who knows, McCown might just be around for the time being. If you want an updated look at who was/is available at what cost, link below:


  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Our cap pretty much prevented us from signing any solid 2nd QB, but that still leaves us thin at QB (just like at C. No real options for us this year). Keep in mind that the Bears also brought in Jamarcus Russell, Trent Edwards and Jordan Palmer, so I don't think they're entirely sold on McCown either.

    Here's an argument FOR McCown which is strong, but not persuasive for me at least (can't get over McCown throwing more Int than TDs -37/44- and his sub 60% completion. That's not a great combination).


  • Good article. What would be interesting if I had the time to research it is the before/after stats on QBs Trestman has worked his scheme with as well as how they did after Trestman....

  • In reply to Shady:

    There's depth at linebacker, no? We've got Bostic and Greene on the bench. A backup Mike and OLB .. .sweet.

  • Beast was targeted 129 times and caught the ball - what .... 110 times?
    And Megatron only caught 5 TDs right?

  • While on QBs, I guess the Bears were looking into Mike Glennon in the draft. Naturally, they weren't able to nab him since the Bucs got him in the 3rd. So they stood pat. I kinda like that Trestman had some targets, and when they weren't available, he didn't just pick up left overs but moved on to different positions.

    "Chicago Bears: General manager Phil Emery approached the draft with hopes of selecting a quarterback, and there were reports of the Bears privately working out North Carolina State's Mike Glennon. The plan made sense for a number of reasons. First, the team was bidding farewell to 2012 backup Jason Campbell. Second, new coach Marc Trestman is known as a quarterback guru and the Bears could benefit from having him develop a rookie. Third, starter Jay Cutler is entering the final year of his contract. Ultimately, however, the Bears couldn't justify using any of their six selections on a quarterback. For now, 2012 third-stringer Josh McCown is penciled in as Cutler's backup. "


    Also, Blanchard is looking good in PS once more.

    "Past rookie minicamps have been plagued by subpar play from the quarterback position, which tends to drag the entire exercise to a grinding halt. But for the second consecutive year, Blanchard's strong arm and accuracy kept the drills moving. The other quarterback in attendance is Saint Xavier's Jimmy Coy, whom the Bears brought in for a tryout.

    "I like Matt," Bears coach Marc Trestman said. "I think he's got a good base. He throws the ball well and he's very, very smart. He obviously has the aptitude to play the game and he's very good with our system. That's come to him very easily. He throws the ball very well.

    "He's in shorts like everybody else is and he doesn't seem out of place to any of us and that's why he's with us."


    I've always had a good feeling about Blanchard. Then again, I also liked Dan LeFevour!

    I know they're only in shorts, but hopefully Blanchard can supplant McCown. It'd be refreshing to home grow a QB for once.

  • I watched a few playoff games a year of Blanchard in D3. He's obviously a competitive guy and a winner. There were playoff games where they were behind or very close, and he was always clutch at the end. UW-Whitewater was predominantly a running team, but he could move the ball through the air and win games at the end when needed. Whitewater went undefeated the three years he started, winning three D3 championships. He was very good at clock management late in games.

    He might have a good career in the NFL after sitting a few years on the bench. He's got the prototypical size, a strong arm, accuracy, and smarts. He only threw 5 picks in three seasons as a starter. That's pretty impressive.

    The question is how that past experience and success will translate to the NFL. D3 players aren't even close to as athletic as top D1 players, let alone NFL players. That's a big transition to make. Hopefully he's able to do it.

  • In reply to The Fifth:


  • In reply to TracDaddy:


  • In reply to The Fifth:

    Now that's what I'm talkin bout. Sing it sister!

  • MotoGP girls. Coincidence... I think not. This one's for GP:


    (btw, grand prix of hungary is this week)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think the Hungarian GP is just one long week long orgy for the drivers and crew as Hungary is swarming with loose, hot women.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Opie/Richie was on Top Gear pimping Rush, the film about Lauda.

    i hope he doesn't over Hollywood it, the story is great told straight up.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I was in Budapest in 2000. Insane.

    I'm 100% Hungarian on my dad's side. His family came from a little village about 20 minutes outside budapest.

    Aaaannyway, chicks there are rigronkulous. And they dress like hookers. Amazing. Budapest is awesome too.

  • OMMFG!!!

    I am still so in love


    Fat cow, huh yonny?

  • WOW!!!

    Check this out: http://uncrate.com/stuff/reebok-checklight/

    Pretty cool step forward... potentially.

  • here's one for canada.



  • In reply to MB30SD:

    and this: http://www.nytro.com/search-results/buy/p5six-red-complete-bike/


  • Bang! Bang!


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yep, good for him - the guy is funny as hell.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    speaking of funny/scary as hell.

    what was in the box.... whaaat's in the booooooox!?!?!?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Now who do they get to co-host?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Mike. Brown.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yes please. What the fuck is he doing now anyway? He has to be coaching somewhere.

  • I've been catching up on the blog after some well-deserved vacation.

    I have seen several posters refer to Craig Steltz as "serviceable" and "a decent backup".

    Please cease and desist this nonsense. He is Wonder Bread missle, but he's had two calf surgeries and there is a reason he's a true free playing strong. He's smart, he stays in position, but when called upon to sprint to the zone edge and get air, he makes me weep tears of sorrow for Danielle Manning.

    So let's just all quit pretending that Craig Steltz should be on a 21st centrury team when he's clearly right out of late '70s NFL.

  • In reply to gpldan:


    I watched invincible the other night and thought steltz would have been good playing headlight lit dirt playground football with markie mark.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Unless the Mel Tucker and the Bears continue to hide their safetie, the group could get exposed as the weakest unit on the team.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Safeties. Major Wright didn't have much responsibility last season in coverage. I don't know if it was because Lovie didn't trust him or what, but between the CBs giving a 5 yd cushion and the safeties lining up 25 yards deep, the secondary wasn't asked to do much at all. While it still resulted in a league leading turnover total, I would be shocked if the D came anywhere close to that amount this year.

  • In reply to Shady:

    bears safeties... grumble grumble grumble....

  • RIP Dennis Farina



  • In reply to MB30SD:

    CPD from '67 to '85.


  • He seems kinda skinny. He used to have that Skippy chunk brand face, and now he's going all Christian Bale in the Mechanic.


  • In reply to gpldan:

    Damn she looks good for popping out a baby less than a year ago. Eating disorder, probably. Good for her, whatever it takes sweet cheeks.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    did you see his little FUP in that one shot. Little gut going there.

    Shady, you are a pig. Has your ex dumped you again yet? (I keed I keeeeeed)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I informed the heifer she needed to exercise more or acquire an eating disorder before the relationship went any further. Been a while since she's called, don't know why, she's always telling me to be more honest...

    Women (smh)

  • In reply to Shady:

    hahahahahaha... nice. well played!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    shady... watch. this. now. please.


    holy. shit. women. are. apeshit.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "One dayyyy, one dayyy where I can go on the laaaake, AHHHHHH GAAAAAA!!!"

    (smh) Smokers (smh)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    She probably didn't start behaving like that until they were actually married, right? Yeah fuck that shit.

  • In reply to Shady:

    She started acting like that at about 7 or 8. White women. SMH

  • Ultimate Chicago Film should star:

    John Belushi (Jim is an idiot)
    Dennis Franz
    Dennis Farina
    Joe Mantegna
    Gary Cole
    Terry Kinney

    I don't know what it would be about, but it would be good.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And cameos from John C Reilley and Adam "Animal Mother" Baldwin.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    no Terrence howard or jennifer beals?!?!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm sure there are a lot others but don't forget George Wendt, John Mahoney, Gary Sinise, John Malkovich. Michael Madsen and WIlliam Peterson. And one I actually took to her high school prom, Virginia Madsen. Interesting story and if it somehow becomes germane to whatever we're discussing, I'll try to squeeze in before the off-season is over.

    All that notwithstanding, I was really saddened today to hear of Dennis Farina's passing. Loved all his work but especially Midnight Express and Law & Order. You younger guys should check out Crime Story, it's got to be around somewhere..

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I'll make it germane tobi. I had the hots for her in junior high. Pretty sure I whacked off to her booby shots a few times back then.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Crime Story was f-cking awesome! I loved that show - too bad it didn't last longer. Farina also guest-starred on Miami Vice a few times.

    Virginia Madsen?! Damn, Tobi, you are legally obligated to share that story.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Midnight run was the shizz

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Years and years ago three girls I knew from the town I grew up in had just graduated from college and rented the first floor apartment in a two-flat in Evanston. Their place kind of became the hangout for us that year. A divorced mother and her two teenaged kids lived in the apartment upstairs and liked to spend time hanging with the older, cooler gang downstairs. The girl Gina, was kind of shy and had just a smidgen of baby fat but was
    absolutely beautiful. I actually was upstairs at her place once very briefly and noticed a table full of headshots. I asked her what they were all about and she told me that she was going to be an actress. I thought to myself "Yeah sure, you and a few million other teanage girls."

    Anyway, I got the word from my three female friends that nobody had asked Gina to her prom and what a noble thing it would be if I did. I actually was going out with one of their friends at the time but she was a sport about it so I rented a tux and rented a car (wasn't going to embarrass her in front of her friends by showing up in my rust bucket 72 Pinto) and off we went to the prom. Afterwards, I got a quick kiss and that was it. The summer ended,
    the girls moved out and that was that.

    About fifteen years later I ran into one of them and we started reminiscing about the good old days and what happened to whoever. Then, almost as an afterthought, I asked her about the family that lived upstairs from her back then. She told me the girl went out to Hollywood and became a star. I was like, you're kidding, who is she?
    "Virginia Madsen."
    "That was Virginia Madsen?"
    "Wow, guess I should check out a few of her movies."

    Another interesting bit was one of the girls had a little thing going with Virginia's older brother Michael. When this girl's college boyfriend showed up for a visit, Michael went nuts. I remember sitting across their kitchen table from him, listening to go on and on and thinking to myself that if I read a bit later that it turned out
    this guy had murdered several people, it would not have surprised me in the least. He was scary nuts. Years later, when I saw him in Reservoir Dogs, I thought to myself that had to be the easiest money he ever made because he wasn't acting, he was just being himself...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Great story.

    I didn't know Michael was a nutter.

    Tarantino tells a nicer story about Michael. Says that the actor playing the cop in the chair was allowed to improvise his dialog and when he starts screaming that he has a kid - Michael had to stop the scene and it was really hard for him to finish. Made him seem like a nice guy.

    But, maybe not. Just so much Hollywood PR BS.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I Idol you for having went to prom with Gina Madsen.

    Michael Madsen reminds me of another actor that played a calm, crazy role.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    No Ashton Kutcher? The man is a thespian of the highest degree.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm just curious but is there a reason Bill Murray, Dan Aykrody, John Candy, and Steve Martin are no where on that list?

  • None of them are from Chicago.

    Shockingly, Harrison Ford is. Went to Park View High. I guess they should have called him South Side Jones.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Bill Murray is, he went to Loyola Academy in Wilmette (as did I for a couple of years but a bit later)...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I didn't know Murray was an original.

    His brother, Brian Doyle, was in Bleacher Bums for awhile and later did some films.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    He played the bubble boy's father in that classic Seinfeld episode..

  • Steve Martin? He's a California icon, not Chicago.

  • jesus


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Waterfall. Nice.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    yeah, every kid needs a waterfall in the training room. jesus.

  • sigh


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I've watched that play maybe 20 times. Here's the thing I'm concerned about for Clowney's sake.

    On that play, if Clowney changes his technique to avoid looking like he's "targeting," he would have kept his head turned to the left. At that angle, his neck gets cranked sideways and he risks serious injury.

    So basically the rule designed to marginally decrease risk to QBs, will instead seriously increase the risk to DEs. And I see stuff like that all the time. The safest way to tackle is to square your body and make sure your head doesn't get whipped back. How can you do that without at least slightly tilting forward?

    Sigh indeed...

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    What's gonna happen this year with the helmet to helmet rule regarding running backs? I think it's gonna be a debacle.

  • I think it' s a good idea to really understand what happened in Stockton, CA and who benefited.

    Hint: It wasn't all the Police and Firefighters who were hired and whose benefits went into CalPers.

    Another Hint: It was Morgan Stanley who underwrote the bond offering in 2005 that the city needed to underwrite the pensions.


    What has the Dittoheads like the Fifth up in arms, is the idea that somehow the people who organize into groups and form unions (fire, police) and negotiate a defined contribution plan are somehow wrecking the nation and these pensions are unsustainable, and all this other nonsense that really are the talking points of the Limbaughs and the other propaganda arms of the right who want to sell you this bullshit.

    It's not.

    Anyone who thinks it would take a millionaire lifestyle to live like a Calper retiree doesn't know any Calper retirees. Simple as that. Go ask a schoolteacher who has been all-in for $40k her whole life if she's living the good life. Give me a break.

    Also, Calpers is not a medical insurance plan. More subterfuge when they - Dittoheads- say "government sponsored health" and so forth. Sorry, not true. That California police officers whose knees are shot because he's been chasing robbers and keeping the streets safe? He's either doing Medicare or private payer plan, and good luck affording the latter.

    Also - regarding Scott Walker. Walker is straight up Koch brothers financed. They even stung him and prank called him posing as a Koch brother and he admitted he was their lackey boy. He was looking to make collective bargaining a CRIME. That's right - he had a law before the legislature to make the teacher's union act of collectively bargaining ILLEGAL.

    So, when Fifth spouts this nonsense and Sac weakly tells him to go to school or what have you - please be aware that behind all this misguided rhetoric there are real stories going on and the place to find out about them is not the AM dial.

    Now, back to Bears talk.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I have neither the energy or the inclination to try and educate the misguided, but I applaud your effort.

  • Here's an effort - then I leave it alone.


    Say your town wants to build a new elementary school. So it goes to Wall Street, which issues a bond in your town's name to raise $100 million, attracting cash from investors all over the globe. Once Wall Street raises all that money, it dumps it in a tax-exempt account, which your town then uses to pay builders, plumbers, the chalkboard company and whoever else winds up working on the project.

    But here's the catch: Most towns, when they raise all that money, don't spend it all at once. Often it takes years to complete a construction project, and the last contractor isn't paid until long after the original bond is issued. While that unspent money is sitting in the town's account, local officials go looking for a financial company on Wall Street to invest it for them.

    To do that, officials hire a middleman firm known as a broker to set up a public auction and invite banks to compete for the town's business. For the $100 million you borrowed on your elementary school bond, Bank A might offer you 5 percent interest. Bank B goes further and offers 5.25 percent. But Bank C, the winner of the auction, offers 5.5 percent.

    In most cases, towns and cities, called issuers, are legally required to submit their bonds to a competitive auction of at least three banks, called providers. The scam Wall Street cooked up to beat this fair-market system was to devise phony auctions. Instead of submitting competitive bids and letting the highest rate win, providers like Chase, Bank of America and GE secretly divvied up the business of all the different cities and towns that came to Wall Street to borrow money. One company would be allowed to "win" the bid on an elementary school, the second would be handed a hospital, the third a hockey rink, and so on.

    How did they rig the auctions? Simple: By bribing the auctioneers, those middlemen brokers hired to ensure the town got the best possible interest rate the market could offer. Instead of holding honest auctions in which none of the parties knew the size of one another's bids, the broker would tell the pre­arranged "winner" what the other two bids were, allowing the bank to lower its offer and come in with an interest rate just high enough to "beat" its supposed competitors. This simple but effective cheat – telling the winner what its rivals had bid – was called giving them a "last look." The winning bank would then reward the broker by providing it with kickbacks disguised as "fees" for swap deals that the brokers weren't even involved in.

    The end result of this (at least) decade-long conspiracy was that towns and cities systematically lost, while banks and brokers won big. By shaving tiny fractions of a percent off their winning bids, the banks pocketed fantastic sums over the life of these multimillion-dollar bond deals. Lowering a bid by just one-100th of a percent, called a basis point, could cheat a town out of tens of thousands of dollars it would otherwise have earned on its bond deposits.

    That doesn't sound like much. But when added to the other fractions of a percent stolen from basically every other town in America on every other bond issued by Wall Street in the past 10 to 15 years, it starts to turn into an enormous sum of money. In short, this was like the scam in Office Space, multiplied by a factor of about 10 gazillion: Banks stole pennies at a time from towns all over America, only they did it a few hundred bazillion times.

    Given the complexities of bond investments, it's impossible to know exactly how much the total take was. But consider this: Four banks that took part in the scam (UBS, Bank of America, Chase and Wells Fargo) paid $673 million in restitution after agreeing to cooperate in the government's case. (Bank of America even entered the Justice Department's leniency program, which is tantamount to admitting that it committed felonies.) Since that settlement involves only four of the firms implicated in the scam (a list that includes Goldman, Transamerica and AIG, as well as banks in Scotland, France, Germany and the Netherlands), and since settlements in Wall Street cases tend to represent only a tiny fraction of the actual damages (Chase paid just $75 million for its role in the bribe-and-payola scandal that saddled Jefferson County, Alabama, with more than $3 billion in sewer debt), it's safe to assume that Wall Street skimmed untold billions in the bid-rigging scam. The UBS settlement alone, for instance, involved 100 different bond deals, worth a total of $16 billion, over four years.

    The watershed case on this is United States of America v. Carollo, Goldberg and Grimm.

    It's the moment when Wall Street became indistinguishable from the Mafia. It's what Spitzer called "old skool" bid rigging.

    So, if the Muni Bond holders in Detroit and elsewhere get a haircut - if they get what is called in the industry as a "cram down", then it is WELL DESERVED.

    And no amount of radio rhetoric or high school understanding of real economics is going to change that.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Bravo. One of my favorite posts of yours ever, GPL.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That isn't any worse than the government robbing from hard working citizens to support the lazy and the scammers. Yes there are some that need and should receive aid but the bankers and the politicians are two pea's in a pod as far as I'm concerned.

    I did like the post though GP, thanks.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Trac -

    It IS worse. By a LOT.

    You go to the GAO and you look at what is spent on food banks, welfare and shelters - then you go to the Catholic Church's website and see what they are putting out there in food - and then add those numbers up and come back here with some figures - because I've got some that dwarf them the way Jupiter dwarfs the moon.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Gp, did you really read what I said? Your post is completely misleading. First, I never said a "millionaire lifestyle". I said the average private sector worker would need millions in the bank to assure the annual output for life of a government employee who receives a defined BENEFIT program.

    The whole point of my post above is that defined benefit plans are unsustainable because people are living a lot longer than expected when these promises were made. Demographics can be a bitch. My Dad is a retired Teamster from a northern IL local with a defined benefit plan. They made major sacrifices from the late 70's until he retired to guarantee those benefits. His local is one of the few solvent ones left. Most are under water. What private sector companies that haven't went bankrupt are still offering defined benefits? I'm guessing not very many.

    What places are you talking about where teachers only make 40k a year after many years of work? Did you hear that on the Rachel Maddow show or from some nitwit writer at Thinkprogress?

    I do have a problem with government workers unionizing, and then the unions using all that money to elect their bosses. Anyone who doesn't believe there are a lot of incompetent gov't workers is a fool. The unions protect them, and the people they elect reward them.

    Not sure if you read the link MB posted above about Detroit, but going off memory 38% of the city's expenses are "legacy" costs, meaning retirement benefits. That is only going to accelerate in the coming years. The same thing is going to happen to cities and states across the country.

    Banks and Wall Street are part of the problem too. I've had major problems with those institutions since I've been on the blog.

    One question for you GP. What public school did you go to, and what public schools do your kids go to in Chicago? If not Chicago, what public schools would you send them to in Chicago?

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    I was talking about a retired teacher living off CalPers. Go back and read it.

    And $40k is about right, given that he/she taught in California let's say from '70 to '95. Look at the range today:

    Damn facts are inconvenient, sometimes.

    I do have a problem with government workers unionizing, and then the unions using all that money to elect their bosses. Anyone who doesn't believe there are a lot of incompetent gov't workers is a fool. The unions protect them, and the people they elect reward them.

    If you honestly think unionized teachers are Wisconsin's problem - well - I dunno. Guys like you are why Walker survived the recall. Are you in the Tea Party?

    Chicago public schools are run terribly.

    The conclusion you draw is that the unions are the REASON the schools are bad.

    My conclusion is that bleeding dry the tax revenue for these schools dooms them to fail.

    And, when we look at bid rigging the totality of the Municipal Bond market over a period of 20 years, the dollars lost by the middle class transferred in the form of interest (carried interest is tax free btw) over those same 20 years is a giant sucking sound of dollars from the middle class in this nation to the top 1%.

    By making unions criminal you tear down the last barrier to the oligarchs finishing up what Rockefeller started. People in Ohio love them some Andrew Carnegie, he even has a hall named after him. Yeah, he used to hire thugs to infiltrate union meetings and start riots. Kind of like what Scott Walker was talking about doing with the prank caller posing as a Koch brother.

    In 50 years, the Koch brothers will probably have an opera hall named after them. History loves it some of that noblesse oblige.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    My sister in-law makes 40k as a pre-school teacher in TN. She does have her masters though.. and going for her doctorate?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The teachers unions ARE part of the reason schools are run bad. They are not the main problem. The main problem is the gradual centralization of education at the state and federal level. Same problem at the college level. We now have more administrators than teachers in the classroom.

    It's a fucking boondoggle that screws over teachers. Based in constant dollars, elementary and secondary education is 3 times more expensive than it was in 1970. The problem is the money never reaches the classroom.

    When I was in grade school, the Principle of the school was like a CEO. He ran the school. Hired and fired people, came up with a budget, basically oversaw everything that happened in the school. Our local school district building was only a few rooms. By the time I graduated HS, the school district building was an old K-Mart.

    In this country we now have more administrators than teachers in the classroom. I have a problem with that. The US has tripled education spending since 1970, but we have similar overall results. I think that is appalling, especially when I read about places like Detroit, Chicago, and take your pick of another big city.

    Why not have government funded education, but not government run education? Give every parent a voucher and empower them? Let them choose the best school for their kid? I don't give a shit what kind of school. Some of the sophisticated European countries offer open enrollment. Why not is the US? Why shouldn't every parent have the right to choose their kid's school? It should not be based on the neighborhood you live in. That dooms too many kids to failure. In small towns you usually only have one choice, but you usually know the teachers. You have influence. Parents have no influence at these bigger jr. high schools and high schools in places like Chicago.

    So fuck the teacher's unions. Empower the kids and parents to get their kids a good education.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    It's a mindset. I know 4 dudes that are on disability and work on the side to keep their bennies. It's not race related at all. People are starting to take what they can get because they think everyone else is doing it. I ain't gonna end well. I feel bad for my kids because I teach them to work and be self suffient and when they get to be my age it's gonna be so hard to carry the water that people are just going to give up trying.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    In Atlas Shrugged all the real capitalists, you know - the guys who make things and invent stuff - they get tired of all the grifters and move to the mountains of Colorado. Maybe they didn't hear about the drought up there and the propensity for wildfires.

    Anyhow - the Koch brothers financed a film of Atlas Shrugged. It's on iTunes now, and the Romney campaign made it mandatory viewing at the behest of Paul Ryan. You should check it out, I think you would LOVE LOVE LOVE it.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I am not political, just practical and logical. Give it time GP, you'll see.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I totally see your lack of political agenda and adherence to the firm tenets of reality.

    We need a name for this, don't you think? I say we call this adherence only to the real and true... um.... lemme think... how about.... Objectivism.

    Awesome name, no? I totally came up with it myself.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    So, if a person has common sense, they have to be a card carrying tea party member? C'mon man, why do you always try to label and do the very thing you claim to detest? I posted that article not because is was critical of Obama, but because this country has gone insane and failure is around the corner but politics has blinded this nation and in my opinion, most people consider themselves dems or pubs now, not Americans. Is it so hard to see that this Nation has lost her way?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Like Bill Hicks said : "It's the same guy holding up both puppets."
    There is only the illusion of choice.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    You've never read Ayn Rand, have you?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Take what you can from the government, because they've been fucking you all over for a very long time.

    There will be blood.

  • Now I disagree with that Irish because today's government doesn't create anything but confusion. You're not taking from government but from those that refuse to be beaten by it.

  • http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100227375/obamanomics-is-turning-america-into-detroit-ayn-rands-starnesville-come-to-life/

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    The Observer, naturally, quotes a native complaining that ‘capitalism has failed us,’ but capitalism is the one thing the place desperately needs. Detroit has been under Leftist administrations for half a century. It has spent too much and borrowed too much, driving away business and becoming a tool of the government unions.

    Hahahaha. I love this shit. They state that like it's some sort of fact. Like Dave Bing was some crazy Che Guevara commie.

    Hahahaha. Oh... man.

    Now watch this, Trac.


  • In reply to gpldan:

    I get it GP. I get your point.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Detroit DETROIT??

    My brothers .. .and any new blogwatchers who view silently .... a refresher course.

    The fact part:

    The USA has been effectively bankrupt since 1933, following the great depression which - as all recessions are - caused by the banks contracting the volume of currency in supply and then calling in all loans at short notice. Fort Knox is empty and the gold now belongs to the (Non) Federal Reserve (a cartel of privately owned banks all trailing back to the Rockefellers and Rothschild families). The loan given to the Federal Government in order to see them through hard times has spiralled hopelessly out of control as the country struggles to meet even the interest repayments. The compounded interest and the nature of money-as-debt ) each dollar printed for the USA is rented from the Fed with interest attached) means that this loan can NEVER be repaid. The collateral on the loan includes not only the gold formerly held in Fort Knox, but your birth certificates, all federal lands and territories, all parks and forests. These are all held by the Fed in perpetuity until the loan that can never be repaid ... is repaid. This is all knowledge in the public domain, but the majority of said public is unaware of this.

    The media love to report on the sixteen trillion dollar, without EVER mentioning to whom it is owed.

    The grey area :

    It seems that nobody can point to where the War Powers Act was lifted. It is not fully understood how much of the USA is now owned by China and Saudi Arabia also. It has been suggested that the port authorities are now Chinese-owned (or held as collateral by the Chinese on recent loans). The War Powers Act has been invoked 4 or 5 times I think, the most recent mention was in 1973 when a senate report was released in order to inform the general public that these war powers had been in effect for some 40 years and that something needed to be done to lift them. I have not found where or when they were lifted.

    Under the War Powers act, all U.S. citizens are listed as "the enemy", and the rights granted to US people under their constitution are suspended for the duration of the War Powers act being in effect. The flag that flies in U.S. court rooms is not old glory, but is in fact an Admiralty flag (it has a gold border), a military flag flown on the open seas. This is why judges need not explain where it says that income tax must be paid (not mentioned anywhere in the sixteenth amendment are the imaginary income taxes). The income tax is therefore unconstitutional, as is letting anyone other than the U.S. government create money. If the Constitution is suspended then they have no need to explain anything "to the enemy". Maritime law has come onto land where previously only Contract Law and Common Law existed.

    From the introduction on the special report ...

    On November 19, 1973, the Special Committee on the Termination of the National Emergency presented Senate Report 93-549 at the first session of the 93rd Congress. The Introduction to the report, an examination of existing War and Emergency Powers Acts, states:

    "Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency. In fact, there are now in effect four presidentially-proclaimed states of national emergency: In addition to the national emergency declared by President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1933, there are also the national emergency proclaimed by President Harry S. Truman on December 16, 1950, during the Korean conflict, and the states of national emergency declared by President Richard M. Nixon on March 23, 1970, and August 15, 1971."

    and ....

    "Under the powers delegated by these statutes, the President may: seize property; organize and control the means of production; seize commodities; assign military forces abroad; institute martial law; seize and control all transportation and communication; regulate the operation of private enterprise; restrict travel; and, in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of all American citizens."


  • oh jesus fucking christ.

    Who did this? Who gave him this platform? Who fucking opened the evil box so that all this could come spewing ou...

    ...oh. wait. It was me, wasn't it?

    Uhhhh... whoops.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Bastard. I've been listening to this shit forever from both sides. And here's my in depth summation. "Fuck it." That's it. The whole enchilada. None of us can affect even the slightest change so you might as well do your best to be successful within
    the construct of the existing system.
    MB guess what? My son's playing football again. After all ofthe hand wwringing over CTE, he chose to sit out a season and it ate him alive. He was a starting FB and MLB in 6th grade. We'll see if he can climb back up the depth chart after missing a year.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    Exactly johnny. My thoughts exactly. Same thing with the NSA spying... whatever. Every time I see something like this I picture the grandma from vacation who gets told the dog pissed on the sangwiches and she gives a fuck it look and eats it anyway. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBn8xJuqH9w - :35)

    Yeah, I kind of feel the same way my man. Football was the best time of my life. I LOVE that game and always will. You can get run over crossing the fucking road. Might as well take your chances and enjoy life.

    Oh, and... new threads maingses.

  • How 'bout Aaron Rodgers' butt buddy Ryan Braun finally getting nailed for 'roids? Rodgers was such an amazing tool about it when Braun got by on a technicality, it will be interesting to see if he says anything about it this time. My guess is the phony asshole won't say a word.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:


    too bad he owe's one of his twitter followers he entire salary next year.


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Todd Sutton is buying the next round!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    exactly. Radgers is a fucking queef so no way in hell he pays up.

    If it was me I would hook the guy up with a huge party with me and a couple other peaaaakers. But again, he's a masterdouche so odds are he won't do shit for the guy. tool.

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