Scott Wright of NFL Draft Countdown [AUDIO]

Scott Wright of NFL Draft Countdown [AUDIO]

My conversation with Scott Wright was one of the best I've had. He's smart. He's funny. He's willing to defend even the most unpopular decision. Expect him to be around this site for years to come. In our Bears-centric conversation we discuss the following:

  • the fall-off at linebacker after Te'o, Minter, Ogletree and Arthur Brown.
  • how much game tape/production matters when evaluating wide receivers.
  • after Warmack and Cooper, is there another starting guard in this draft.
  • why Tavon Austin is an overrated prospect.
  • why Jarvis Jones is not.

And much more. Give it a listen.

CHICAGO TRIBUNE VIDEO

Comments

Leave a comment
  • Jarvis Jones has Stenosis. That's serious. It's not that he won't be a great pro. It's that he may not play more than a couple years without the risk of crazy injury on the field.

    Tavon is intriguing but if hit squarely once or twice by grown ass killer motherfuckers could become a different player.

    OL above all else. I'd love Te'o later on but we'll see. Sign Okoye for cheap and re-sign Izzy and use the majority of the draft for OL needs.....

  • Stenosis. Accent on the "NO".

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    +1

  • Jarvis was probably misdaignosed:

    http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-football/2013/03/11/nfl-clears-former-georgia-bulldog-jarvis-jones-evidence-leads-to-misdiagnosis-at-usc/

    Tavon will be concussed before his team even hits its bye-week. Even if he isn't, imagine him trying to take a hit like Megatron did from Briggs (just giving myself a reason to rewatch it)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0l-r_HVM6k

    I'm really excited about this draft. Emery has used this offseason to setup the draft in such a way that we won't be shoe horned into picking a risky prospect at #20, just because we have need.

  • The comments on QBs and the draft I found interesting. Given all the times that teams have been burned spending early choices and huge dollars on unproven guys, I'm not surprised that ownership has adapted.

    While Wright says in a semi-condescending way that Alex Smith or Carson Palmer have shown what they have, I think that's exactly what the owners are thinking. Are they awesome - well, no. But on the other hand, they've been good enough to stick in the league for a while - unlike the Ryan Leafs of the world.

    Kinda why Washington signed Rex, I suppose.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Jamarcus wants a comeback.

  • I think my ideal draft for the Bears would look something like this.

    1 - [Trade down to #31] Manti Teo or Kevin Minter (ILB)
    2 - Larry Warford (G) or Barrett Jones (G/C)
    3 - [#74 acquired from Niners in trade] Oday Aboushi (G/OT) or Gavin Escobar (TE)
    4 - Tyran Mathiu (CB/KR)
    5 - Tyler Wilson (QB)
    6 - Kenny Stills (WR)

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    you really think the badger will go as low as 4 nb?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I would draft him in the 3rd round but the dude is a big risk, which is why NBIT dropped him to the 4th round.

  • I was hearing 5-7 before my man.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The character issues are real. But there's also the fact that he's only 5'8"; I think that will take some of the luster off of him in the pros even if he is super fast.

    I look at him as a similar prospect to Tavon Austin - great college tape, great straight line speed, great cutting ability, but very small for the NFL.

    Mathiu will be an awesome nickel back for us, maybe even pushing for the #2 spot, and would push Hester and others for kick return time. But all of that is still worth maybe a high 3rd in normal circumstances. Throw in the character concerns, we can take in the bottom half of the 4th.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    hmmm... makes sense nb

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    No way on Kenny Stills. Remember his daddy's cheap shot on Matt Suhey? I guess he was trying to impress Forrest Gregg.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRYydp14x-I

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    Didn't even realize the connection, though I wouldn't punish the son for his father's bonehead play 30 years ago. Honestly didn't watch a lot of tape on Kenny himself, but he's the fastest true WR (rather than track star) that will be available that late in the draft.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Are we liking Manti's speed? Sounds like he's about as quick as the old-man Urlacher. Not good for a rookie. Swap Ogletree in there and that could be an awesome draft. I hope we draft that Wilson kid at QB. I think he's gone by 3 though.

  • Will Tyler Wilson be around then? He'd be a great pick anywhere.

    I still haven't seen one comment about our center situation. On the nfl draft war-room, there's the Bears Center with no backup and it's a sad sight in the middle of our line.

  • There are some options in the draft if we go with Barrett Jones or Jonathan Cooper (both project well at center).

    Edwin Williams would be the backup this year, but I'm not sure if he's coming back. I believe Spencer was already cut, but I might be wrong on that.

    Either way, there will be a vet minimum option out there at center if we don't draft someone. Garza was terrible last year with penalties, but Trestman and Emery might figure he's a decent stopgap for one more year.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    It would be Garza's 28th season in the NFL. I think it's time to stop.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    He sucks. Plus, if he goes down, where's the center? No way we can ignore C in the draft. The whole year is fucked if we do.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I'm still hoping Jones' foot is good and we get him in the 2nd.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    as you know, I'm with you 100% on this dave. He would be an awesome bears center for the next 10 yrs

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Mike Brown could barely come back from that injury. I have no faith that Barrett Jones will be able to do so without injuring another part of his body as he overcompensates. That is what brought down Brownie. The dreaded calf strain after the Liz Frank.

  • The history on Lisfranc in the NFL is definitely not encouraging. But no one expected what AP did either.

    The only Lisfranc reference I saw that ended well was Matt Schaub. We will have to see with MJ-D and Benson this year. McFadden's production the year after a Lisfranc was not encouraging.

    Best indicator may be what Ryan Kalil does this season at C for Carolina.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    We'll see Carolina next week ....

  • What's the difference between Austin and Harvin?

    Austin is 5'8" and Harvin is 5'11". I truly believe that if the Bears utilize Austin correctly, their offensive wideouts would be dangerous. I do like the point about how easily it is for him to get injured but doesn't everyone have the same chance as he does? Look at Sproles? Just food for thought.

    I really liked this guy Jeff. He provided some awesome points, especially about how workouts are actually hurting prospects. I can understand why some would be concerned but the tape is more important. Unless the guy gained like 50 pounds and his name is J'marcus Russell. I can't wait to hear what he thinks about the Bears choices on draft day.

    Which brings me a question for you guys about our linebacker situation, how would you feel if the Bears somehow drafted Olgetree in the first round and Te'o in the second?

  • Jeez Erik, didn't they teach you math in school. It's 3 inches. Sheesh.

    Hey! Don't hate on my boy the PurpleSlurple. Dude is getting.... FIIIIIIIIIT!

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1526127-comeback-2013-jamarcus-russells-road-back-to-the-nfl-episode-1

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I have forgotten how much you love roasting my ass.

    Ass. I miss you too.

  • semi-colon, close parenthesis

  • Teo and Ogletree would be a great tandem for a team converting to a 3-4. Teo would be your run stopper and Ogletree would be your blitz/coverage guy. One smarter, one more athletic, kind of like our current starting safeties.

    But on our team? It would be a waste. Neither of them would get a fair shot. Whoever won the starting job, the other would be a wasted pick.

    That is, unless we though Ogletree would play better outside. But then you're still using your first round pick on a Sam, who will probably play 40% of your snaps per game.

    And if you think Teo at MLB, Ogletree at SLB on run plays, then slide Ogletree to MLB and take Teo out on passing plays... still kind of a waste to me.

  • Fix. The. OLine.

    Football starts and ends with the lines. Always has, and always will (unless player protection rules turn it into flag football).

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    again. I stand with you here my brother.

    1. Cooper
    2. Jones
    3. Brown or Minter (yes, this is the extra pick emery traded the browns or someone a ham sammich for)
    4. WR
    5. Whatever....

  • Wouldn't that give us three inside LBs? Ogletree played some safety - got to be worth more to us than Manti.

  • FWIW, Dan Pompei at the Trib has the Bears taking Ogletree at #20 if he's still available and none of the premiere O-line players are left. He also doesn't see Teo going in the first round...

  • Martellus Bennett is having surgery tomorrow but he wouldn't say why.

    Hopefully it's nothing.

  • Penis shortening.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    penis thinning? Can they do that one at the same time.

    He prolly used Major's doc.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Getting the bit that's taken off attached to his game day helmet so that he really will be the Black Unicorn.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm thinking about having the same procedure. Women all talk about size and endurance but believe me, after a couple of hours they all start complaining...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Work. work. work!

  • Wow. So, I guess Harvin, Cobb or DeSean Jax are 2nd rounders, right?

    Comparing Austin to Denard Robison is like comparing Harvin to Hester. Thanks, but no thanks.

    We KNOW what role Austin is going to be. Slot, KR/PR, HB, push safeties back. The Bears already have the other type of WRs, and we can't wait around "2 or 3 years" for Patterson to develop. Give me production NOW.

    I mean, this Scott guy preaches tape, but then discounts Austin's tape?

    114 rec, 1289 yds, 12 TDs
    643 rushing, 3 TDs
    KR/PR 900 yds 2 Tds

    I wonder where Scott ranked Russell Wilson. Too small - wait till he gets hit. Meanwhile his tape is immaculate. Wallace is a "one trick pony" , surely a team should get Robinson instead (rolls eyes).

    And he never said if Jones would make a good fit in our system. Yeah, he dominated the SCC, but would he be a DE or LB in our 4-3?

    I like his list of LBs, but both Penn St guys? hmmmm...

  • Actually, more accurately, Denard Robinson = Pat White.

  • I'd be OK with White running the Read-option instead of Tebus... Just sayin'! Hey man, you said McClellin would be a perfect fit for Eagles 3-4. Wha? McClellin is half the size of Matthews or Ware, and probably not as fast as either

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    Matthews and Ware are 3-4 LBs...so is McClellin.

    You want to line up Matthews as a 4-3 DE, see how it goes against RTs who are 340 like Fluker or Smith.

    Shea would be a perfect fit for a 3-4 LB, why do you think Emery nabbed him before the Packer?

    Not as an end, but a rushing LB.

    Ware is a little bit different since he's an athletic animal, but we got to fit system to player period.

  • Gah.. That talk makes me wonder why we drafted him... I gotta go to bed =/

  • Oh, and Just curious, would you prefer White or Tebow as a 3rd string/red zone guy?

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    Tebow.

    It's not quantifiable. but I've watched Tebow when the chips are down, and he gets EXTREMELY accurate when it matters.

    I'm not a Bible-thumper, but that boy is CLUTCH.

    He racked up the best QB stats EVER in a playoff game against the #1 D.

    I don't know how everyone missed that. That's at least worth a 3rd string QB, along with his TE/FB/HB value.

  • It's nice to have a QB you can run with that you don't really mind getting hit hard.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    hahahahahaha... jesus is his co-helmet.

  • You keep missing the elephant in the room. If the son of god is on your team there will always be 10 times more drama surrounding the team. Between the media and the fans it's like a pack of rabid dogs that won't go away. Why deal with that BS for a 3rd string QB?

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    BINGO!!!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    aaaaahhhhmaaaaaaing.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I honestly don't see the "media circus" of Tebus following him to Chicago. It didn't even follow him all that much to NY, the mecca of media and outlandish attention. It was only because Sanchize and his butt-fumbling ways sucked so much that Tebow was even mentioned at all.

    I think the circumstances with him at Denver were unique. Colorado is one of the most conservative places in the U.S. and I think the state with the most "super churches" (The ones were Evangelical preachers are like rock stars). This combined with the Tebow novelty AND winning in such dramatic fashion just kept ramping up the madness, but all that has subdued substantially.

    When he comes to CHI with an established no brainer QB in Cutler, and behind even McCown, in a non-evangilical state in general, I seriously seriously doubt the dog and pony show will follow.

    Now if Cutler somehow has a complete meltdown, then Tebow becomes a distraction, but if that happens Tebow will be the least of our worries.

    But that's just my take.

  • Addendum to the Coppock story.

    The game was October 31, 1994. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/199410310chi.htm

    To Chet's recollection, it was Luckman, Sayers and Butkus who were there and got jerseys.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Couldn't find highlights, but I did find the MNF intro. Who remembers Tales from the Crypt?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqekvWM_yfw

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    The intro was the highlight. If you want the lowlights:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPaaJ9nsur4

  • http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/04/world/asia/afghanistan-honor-killing-survivor/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

    fucking barbarians man.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Oh come on now MB, we all know it is the Religion of Peace.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    yes. right. that.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Fundamentalists of any religion are fucking nutbags. Muslim fundamentalist are the worst by far, but they're all insane.

  • Okay, one more mock draft for the day. This is what the blog
    would love to see in a lot of ways.

    1 - Cooper
    2 - Warford
    4 - AJ Klein (LB, Iowa State)
    5 - Chris Faulk (OT, LSU)
    6 - Jasper Collins (WR, Mount Union)

    Faulk was a first round level prospect till he hurt his knee and missed 2012 (much like a certain safety drafted in the 3rd last year). If he is healthy, we could see five new players starting on the O-line this year. Bushrod - Slauson - Cooper - Warford - Faulk.

    Meanwhile we get AJ Klein, who is similar to Manti Teo in his skill set, but might not be able to stick around in pass coverage. The nice thing is he can play all the LB spots, so he could be a Nick Roach type.

    And a different speed reciever option (ABAW) in Collins. Comes from the school that produced Pierre Garcon and put up decent numbers without a decent QB, so that's something.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=90430&draftyear=2013&genpos=OG

    what about jones in 2 (or 3 if emery can somehow wrangle one) NB... not a fan, think his injury is worse than projected, or just don't think he'll be available to us?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I like Jones and Warford more or less equally. Thing is, Jones projects better at center than at guard. I'd really like to see us pick up one starting guard who can just maul anyone in front of him.

    Line up Larry Warford in front of Suh and just beat him up all game long. That's how you deal with a guy like that, you have to frustrate them and sap some of that strength. I think Warford at right guard for the next 5-10 years is a great fit.

    Jones is a big guy, but not like Warford. He's a little lighter on his feet, which is nice if he slides to tackle or center, but doesn't have the raw power of a Warford.

    You can make the exact same comparison of Cooper and Warmack. I want one of each. One bigger, one faster. If we got Warmack in the first, I'd like Jones over Warford in the second.

  • My cat gives better interviews.

  • In reply to Shady:

    wow, I thought you just have a little weenie.... dog.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Exactly.

  • In reply to Shady:

    that was a little harsh btw... it was more of a chat than an interview anyway.

    Let's just hope his farts aren't as bad as tilly's (of whatever her name is, I can never remember)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That's the point, I don't have a cat. And the little brown dog is named Addy. And my all my posts are being reviewed by "an administrator" most likely because of the bouncy bouncy link last thread. Can we liberate this blog from chicagonow already? Fack.

  • In reply to Shady:

    that's just mean man! (100 blog points for the movie)

    Ahhhh, right. Addy. I actually like that name, addison. But it's such a human name. Precocious owners.

    yeah, I was getting that with every post too... I think it's the gnome code.

    Yes, let's gtf outta here already. smh.... tebow.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKHoMi-U8g4

    You were going to look it up anyway. Great movie.

    Hubba hubba!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    My old neighbor named his dog John, after himself. Needless to say it could get confusing.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    that is the best thing I've heard all day. Fucking hilarious.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    That's hilarious. Not sure what it says about him but it seems like a cry for help.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    Canada, he was a really funny guy and fun to have a few beers with in the summer. His wife was a hoot to be around too. It would have been weird if he named his little boy John.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    A dog called John. Great movie title.

  • Well I'd love to hear it but I get a websense block on the PC and the link doesnt show up on my iphone.

  • Maybe the problem has something to do with CN. Have you tried playing the podcast from DBB's page at Podomatic? Link:

    http://dabearsblog.podomatic.com/

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ2W3wqNdHs

    I know nothing about, nor give a rat's ass about bball, but this seemed funny.

    (see erik, I post stuff other than boobies)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Go back to the Boobies!!!!!!!!

    Did you see Cancellara ride away from Sagan at the Tour of Flanders? Very impressive. I was pulling for Boonen but he hit a sign and will be out for a while. OUCH!

    That dope Sagan grabbed one of the podium girls butt while they were kissing Cancellara. Not good. I really think he's a breath of fresh air into the stodgy world of European bike racing but that was just stupid.

    Pulling for Cancellara in Paris-Roubaix on Sunday. It's my favorite one-day race. Unfortunately it's not listed on my cable network. DAMN!

    Hope things are going well with you and the kids.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    "That dope Sagan" seems to be missing an 'r'.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    eeeeeeaaaasy dave, easy!

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Nah. Who knows if he is or isn't? I never throw that around unless they have been busted. Hopefully he's not using. The guy is really talented on a bike.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    But don't they pretty much *all* use? Isn't that the big black eye that keeps cycling from being bigger than it is?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I think that was the case up to a few years ago. Now with the biological passport it's much harder to cheat. Not saying they aren't because I'm sure some will always cheat. Cycling is a niche sport and it always will be in the US. Too many people hate bicyclists for the sport to ever really get popular. My friend always said that in the US the sport has to have a ball or a motor to be popular.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Thanks Canada. Don't worry, we will resume our regularly scheduled programming shortly.

    No, I was actually in Chitown all week on biz. Didn't get to go out once despite all the warm offers from the blog brothers (thanks shady!). I like sagan man, dude is a stud. Yeah, I don't know.... he's a young bike stud, all in fun... not like he raped her right. People are too damn uptight. I've been groped by old ladies and I just think it's funny.

    Thank you my man. Despite all the craziness being thrown around we're well. Likewise to you and the missus.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I know what you mean but grabbing her ass on the podium is bad juju. I used to work in a casino and always wore shorts. The old ladies liked my legs and patted me on the ass a bunch. I was working for tips and just laughed about it. Guys like the attention no matter what. Women not so much.

  • Former Ravens Linebacker Brian WHATEVERTHEFUCKMYNAMEIS, says that he is in talks with 4 or 5 current NFL players who want to "come out" as being gay men. The plan is for a joint press conference sometime before the season starts.

    NTTAWWT, but I bet BIG money Clay Mathews is the Fathead poster child of the group. NTTAWWT.

  • In reply to BAM46Blitz:

    hahaha

  • In reply to BAM46Blitz:

    Bang! Bang!

  • In reply to BAM46Blitz:

    I actually heard a gay rumor about Aaron Rodgers. Someone I know who's from GB heard from a local Green Bay cop that Rodgers was in fact a peter puffer. But then I just consulted the interwebs and saw he's dating some super hot piece of ass named Destiny Newton. Maybe it's a cover and he really does suck dicks, but its doubtful. Probably a punter or a kicker.

  • Those ARE real:

    http://wickedimproper.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/WI_D-Newton-II.jpg

  • his brother is a dbag if that helps you at all coach?

    He's a bartender at a local eatery/bar. Fucking clown.

  • Wasn't Liberace married? Yeah, I don't put much stalk into facades.

    In L.A. I know a gay guy who has been with some hollywood stars who few would suspect as gay. If it's hush-hush in the "liberal" hollywood culture even now, imagine the locker room.

    But I'm hoping one of the gay "pioneers" is a qb or center...oh, god, please let it be a qb or center...then again, a tight end, receiver and tailback would give a lot of material too...as a matter of fact, all the position names are pretty gay...(NTTAWWT).

  • Anybody else been getting this message ALOT in the last couple days:

    "Thanks for commenting. Before your message appears, an administrator will have to approve it."

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Yes. Its annoying, but has not caused any problems.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Usually I only get that when I've commented a bunch of times. Typical of CN, sucks Moose Wang.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    It happened on my first comment today. It was my first comment this thread, my first in about 10 hours.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    CN likes you more than me!

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I have. Sooner is better, Blogfaddah!

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Just saw Shady's comment above about getting moderated.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Started a couple days ago with me. Will someone please tell me again why DBB is still with CN?

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I thought it was just me because I disagreed with Jeff's special guest, but then I remembered that CN indeed sucks moose wang.

  • Massively awesome Boobness for you all.

    jordancarver.com

  • In reply to BAM46Blitz:

    holy boobies!

    Enter indeed.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Do I have to turn in my man card if I say those are too big? If I do, no comment.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    yes.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm a motorboatin sonuvabitch

  • Bang! Bang!

    no idea why, but for some reason I thought your comment was from NB. I was a little shocked.

    Coach, not that I know it's you... uhhhhh, not so much.

  • Bring a mae west.... you could drown in there

  • In reply to BAM46Blitz:

    Sorry, they don't look real to me. And if they're not real, they don't count. It's like playing five card draw with 5s and 9s wild...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Exactly, Tobi. Everybody wins.

  • I want to see Ogletree in a Bears uniform. But where the Bears are picking in the 1st round, it might be too early for Ogletree.

    I wouldn't be averse to Cooper or Warmack, but again, I'm not high on picking an OG in the 1st--however good they are. If Cooper can play Center, then fine, take him. Because that versatility helps.

    Jones's foot is a problem. On a small guy, that lisfranc is scary. On a big man, it's worse. This is not a point where the Bears can redshirt a high OL pick.

    So I, like many others, want the Bears to trade down.

    If they can't move down, then I guess I'm OK with Cooper in R1. But I'd rather have Ogletree--if his "character" concerns are cleared up. It's possible Ogletree is gone by 20, or he might slip to the 2nd round. Depends on Cincy, I think.

    All in all, 2 of the Bears' first 3 picks need to be OL, and the other needs to be LB. A new C and another G/OT in the mix would be great. Then Carimi isn't the default RT/RG--he's gotta earn his spot.

    The FA signings at LB are stopgaps, and MLB is a gamble. So why not Ogletree?

    (Oh, saw some tape on Fischer, blocking a guy on pass play, then disengaging and blocking another guy on a stunt. Holy crap, that alone makes me want the guy in a Bears uniform. Can you imagine what Cutler--or any QB--could do with offensive linemen who not only can block one guy but two on the same play?)

  • All in all, 2 of the Bears' first 3 picks need to be OL, and the other needs to be LB. A new C and another G/OT in the mix would be great.

    HHhhhhmmmm... your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

  • now

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    meow

  • In reply to Shady:

    right meow!

  • R2 is giving away a Bears stocking hat... http://bearsfam.com/?p=187#comment-46

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    End... want to know the funniest thing about that page.

    Your answer was the least fucking crazy out of the 4, and you have us taking te'o at 20!?!?!?!

    What in THEEEE hell boyh?!!?!? You can't be serious my man. Here try this for the win:

    1. Jonathan Cooper, NC
    2. Guard/Center (hint: Jones)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No to T'eo at 20. I was hoping for a trade down.

  • If the 4 gay guy outing has any truth, would like to see Troy Aikman cover that story with a "straight" face....

  • In reply to Guinness Please:

    He'll manage. He's had years of practice with Joe Buck all up on his junk for the past few years.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Ooooh. Cattty.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRwddMz5y00

    From now on I will ONLY drink coffee with a little milkfoam painting floating on the top.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That's actually pretty cool.

  • http://on.aol.com/video/roger-sterlings-best-one-liners-517732993

    "want me to cut you out of that dress"

    Hahahaha

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Best line from Pumping Iron. Some peon is trying to get into Arnold's head about the hungry wolf climbing the hill. His response is as quick as it is brilliant.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlLtyDVD0Gg

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WME8sZc3K_U&NR=1

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Always to be watched directly after Pumping Iron. Stand Tall was okay - about Louie's comeback in '94 or '98 I think - although it's ruined by having some other dick in it I'd never heard of.

  • This one's for doc: http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/06/travel/marijuana-tourism-seattle/index.html

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Good info, mang. Thanks for sharing.

  • Get your vote on bitches. It's gonna be Golden Joe but it could get interesting
    http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/feature/madden25cover?ex_cid=espn

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I think wilson will win

  • Repost:

    If anybody has a chance, one of my favorite bands of all time is playing in Chi Next week.

    Jerry Joseph and the Jackmormons

    4/11/13 - Chicago, IL @ House of Blues - Back Porch Stage
    4/12/13 - Chicago, IL @ House of Blues - Back Porch Stage
    4/13/13 - Chicago, IL @ House of Blues - Back Porch Stage

    All shows, 9PM

    I'd send a sample, but Jerry Josephs' music is the kind that must be heard live. It's loud, it's electric (most of the time), and it's filled with some of the best lyrics out there. He's an amazing guitar player, amazing lyricist and has a voice that sounds like it just got dragged down a whiskey laden gravel road. Easily one of my top ten artists of all time.

    If you don't want your life to be a complete waste, don't miss these shows. Each show is guaranteed to be different from the others (set list wise). They will be similar in that they all will rock, and most likely change your life (if you have any thing resembling a clue about music).

    Do It.

    Not a music promoter, MB, a promoter of enlightenment.

  • Doc... here's some new enlightenment for you my man. Ready?

    Boobies = Enlightenment

    The right pair of course.

  • checking out Dr. No right now.

    Dude, check Jack Lord's shades. That dude was a fucking mac.

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lczZl2xg2ss/UI6MDoUDEQI/AAAAAAAABnY/thSSmPPpxcU/s1600/bond+-+lord+01.jpg

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=nKcTbOWQEQt6UM&tbnid=Nwl28q_vv71QqM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fallynscura.blogspot.com%2F2011%2F12%2Fjack-lord-from-dr-no-c1962.html&ei=J_hgUf3rOcaZiAKCj4HADA&bvm=bv.44770516,d.cGE&psig=AFQjCNFQ4-CRd-6yXURwsMztFJj27IRR3Q&ust=1365395790997058

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He's wearing Jackie O's sunglasses mang .... if he woke up in her room and put them on in the dark by mistake, then okay. Jack Kennedy was the mac daddy - he woke up in Marilyn Monroe!

  • I would have liked to have woken up in MM.

    That movie is so bad ass... just the epitome of the late 60's manhood. Kinda funny. Those were the days

  • Tell us about the new website again, Jeff. Will there be rabbits?

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Will Lennay ever get to tend da rabbits, Jeff?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9irH7ruetdo

  • COD, anyone?

    Nitty's free all day and night!

    Let's get it ON!!!!

  • I'll be own in a minute good doctor.

  • If you haven't seen this (Fifth, Doc):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94AImNCpcZ0

    Warren Haynes & Jerry Joseph (& Ray LaMontagne & Ben Ottewell) covering Masters of War. I like the original better, but.

    Also stumbled upon two very different acoustic covers of Time the Revelator by Joseph & Haynes.

    Haynes (with Railroad Earth): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5yeR7lc25M

    Joseph: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdCnODAhtmY

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Glad to see you're digging the JJJ, Crunch. Shit's great right?

  • Yes. But I wish the songs on the Jackmormons latest album sounded more like the live versions. Imo, Joseph sings much better (with less affectation) live. Is that always the case, or is it just this album? What are the best albums to get?

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    The only album worth getting is one called Goodlandia. It's acoustic but it's actually live in a radio station, which is why it's so good. Their music doesn't translate to the studio. It MUST be heard live. Goodlandia is a bit rockabilly. But it's easily my favorite. Cherry is a good one if you want mellow (just him with the acoustic). But yeah, live, live, live.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Oh, and thanks for sharing. Yeah, nothing beats the angst in the original Dylan version, but there are some great ones out there. I thought Pearl Jam's cover was one of the best.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8GHBk_HSXg

  • Thanks, that's a great cover. Even with the ukulele, Vedder sounds nothing like Tiny Tim. I don't know why people say he does.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Nice finds Crunch. My boy Warren and Doc's boy Jerry both covering a Gillian Welch song. Very cool.

  • Is it just my browser/computer, or did the new Facebook comment buttons suddenly disappear? There's still a Faceook "comment and update" button at the bottom of the page, but none beneath the comment boxes.

  • http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/07/2013-pft-mock-draft-version-2/

    Florio has us taking DT Sylvester Williams from North Carolina with #20.

    Williams is a late riser on some boards and he had a great combine. The thing that makes me think the pick is plausible is that it fits Emery's profile:

    1) D-lineman, just like last year
    2) The pick is clever, possibly because the player is a steal, possibly because Emery is just trying to be too clever
    3) The guy has all the stuff that scouts love to see

    Melton has already signed his tender, so we'll see what happens. I wouldn't be heartbroken if we used our top pick to upgrade the pass rush.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Fix.
    The.
    Offensive.
    Line.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    If Emery truly addresses the OL issue in a comprehensive fashion this team has the offensive firepower and QB to score 30+ a game, every game.

  • also, if we're scoring 30+ a game because we have a playcaller who knows how to get Forte into space to get him the ball on pass routes, has a tight end at the very height of his confidence level in Black Unicorn, a second year WR in Jeffrey poised to break out, an all decade type receiver in Marshall and a receiver in Bennett who should be renamed "when I catch the ball it's a first down or touchdown every time" people will stop fucking talking about my best friend Jay Cutler and will instead be pissed that we didn't put these pieces in places 4 years ago when we fucking got him.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    yes please! Dave, Johnny, and I drivin this bandwagon all the way to music city hall baby.

    Focus gents.... FOCUS!!!

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    You have to read the mock. The first round grade O-linemen were all gone. Both guards and all three tackles were taken.

    I'm not excited to see us draft D.J. Fluker in the first round if he isn't an upgrade from Webb/Carimi/Scott.

    Now personally I would like to trade back in that scenario, but assuming we can't get a partner for a decent trade, we're left with finding something else to do at #20. Do we reach, or do we get genuine quality.

    I do take issue with the specific player they picked only because he seems a bit raw - not an impact player in 2013. But in this scenario, with our preferred choices off the board, if Emery identifies a player that can immediately upgrade the pass rush, I'm in.

  • Per this article, Bears talking to Arthur Brown

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/8/4196252/nfl-draft-2013-chicago-bears-arthur-brown-visit

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    He'll be a solid linebacker, but I just can't see Emery spending another 1st round pick on a linebacker, even though Shea is listed as a DE. I think the Bears need to, obviously, continue to address the OL, but if there are no 1st round Olineman available, I want Emery to go DE or DT. If there is a run on Olineman, there should be some damn good Dlineman available to bolster the front 4 in the first round, and some solid Oline prospects in round 2. If there is a run on pass rushers in the first round, gravy, the Bears should have an opportunity to draft Oline help in rd.1 while picking up a wide body like Sylvester or Jesse Williams or John Jenkins in round 2. Point is, build the trenches. Solid trenches help the entire unit play to their potential.

  • In reply to Shady:

    speaking of trench diggers, remember when Ted Washington and Keith Traylor were our D Tackles? talk about taking up space and forcing everything outside where, Colvin, Urlacher and Holdman cleaned up the mess.

  • Yes, that was the tits. Not sure if Melton and/or flatbread can hold up against the run over the course of a season. It got ugly last year on both sides of the ball in short yardage situations. The Bears need guys who can literally move opponents off the line of scrimmage.

  • Gotta love the whole "It was my idea all along" angle. lol

    http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2013/04/devin_hester_is_ok_with_solely.html

    Its like when I was 16 and I didnt tell my parents I got fired instead I said I quit.

  • This Bears draft will definitely be different. So many new elements. No wonder no two Bears mock are the same. No one has a clue as to what position we're even going, yet alone player. Some new variables making all prognostications scratch heads.

    - Whole new coaching regime.

    Like I wrote earlier, watching the NFL Network shed light on past bust and gems, it's amazing how much influence coaches have on GMs come draft time. Considering how much Emery was spouting about "synergy", I expect this to be the case again. However, no one knows how that'll work since Trestman hasn't never been an HC in the NFL.

    - Drafting Philosophy

    Some GMs and Coaches have certain tendencies. Some prefer only Division I players, others are even more particular and prefer SCC guys, and some even fancy certain programs. Some steer clear of "character" issues, others from "health risks". Some devalue OGs, ILBs, and HBs on principle, while others clearly value certain positions more (like the G-men with pass rushers). Some GMs/HCs aren't afraid of trading up to get certain players, others prefer relying on "clusters" of players and are more than happy staying put and letting one fall to them. Since we have a sophomore GM with a rook HC, no such trends have as yet been establish. In fact, the Shea pick only further obfuscates the crystal ball since few were grading him that highly.

    - No dire need.

    Emery has set up one trend, which is to use FA to fill in roster holes to maximize draft flexibility. He has made no secret of that method (one of his few operational methods he's actually revealed). Needed a LT. Check. TE. Check. LB? How 'bout two. OG, that too. To further muddle up everything, many of those positions can still be upgraded. We can still get a OG, LB or even TE in the first two rounds (word is, Trestman likes double TE sets - who knows?).

    - Open for business.

    And if that wasn't enough, Emery has hung an open for business sign up to trade down. So what does that mean? Maybe he indeed like Te'o, but not at 20. Maybe he thinks an OG will fall like every draft, so why not get an extra pick? Maybe he realizes that small WRs like Tayvon fall. Maybe he's targeting a QB in the mid-rounds to develop. Who the hell knows?

    Add to all this the recent draft history of massive trades, over reaching for QBs and surprise "risers", and the Bears at around 20 becomes an enigma wrapped in a riddle inside of a rubix cube.

    One thing is certain though, Bears draft 2013 is going to be more intriguing than it has been in years.

  • Smothered in Secret Sauce. Nice post Butch. Interesting.

  • +1

    I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

  • I have been doing some research and I found this little number to be surprising..

    In fact, here's a list of teams that have players with contracts expiring in 2014 per Rotoworld.com.

    49ers: 12
    Bears:
    Bengals: 15
    Bills: 11
    Broncos: 10
    Browns: 7
    Buccaneers: 18
    Cardinals: 14
    Chargers: 7
    Chiefs: 12
    Colts: 13
    Cowboys: 7
    Dolphins: 14
    Eagles: 14
    Falcons: 10
    Giants: 19
    Jaguars: 10
    Jets: 7
    Lions: 13
    Packers: 13
    Panthers: 19
    Patriots: 15
    Raiders: 15
    Rams: 4
    Ravens: 9
    Redskins: 17
    Saints: 7
    Seahawks: 11
    Steelers: 10
    Texans: 8
    Titans: 14
    Vikings: 14
    The NFL average team has at least 12 players on one year deals on their respective rosters. You will notice that I didn't list the Bears because I wanted to let you see all of the other teams and how many players they have playing on one-year deals.

    Are you ready for this? As of now, the Chicago Bears have 27 players playing on one year deals that expire after the 2013 season.

  • I tweeted you about this. Its going to be a crazy 2014 off-season if we don't see any deals get done during the year.

    Currently we are looking at on defense:
    - No starting cornerbacks (we will have Hardin and Freye)
    - 1 starting linebacker (Briggs), who will be on the last year of his deal
    - 1 starting safety (Conte), who will be on the last year of his deal
    - 1 starting defensive end (McClellin) on a realistic contract
    - 1 starting defensive end (Peppers) set to count $20M against the salary cap
    - 1 starting nose tackle (Paea)
    - No 3 technique tackle

    On Offense:
    - No quarterback
    - Wide recievers set, but Marshall in a contract year
    - Running backs set (Forte, Bush), with room for a #3
    - Tight ends set (Bennett, Maneri), with room for a #3
    - Left tackle set (Bushrod)
    - Right tackle in a contract year if its Carimi, as a free agent if its Webb or Scott
    - No center
    - No starting guards (we have Chris Riley and Derek Dennis, who I've never heard of, until 2015).

    Basically Emery has us set at the key offensive positions other than QB (left tackle, RB, WR, TE). But we will still be working to fix the O-line unless we get multiple hits in the draft.

    Meanwhile on defense, I still think Peppers is gone in 2014 if he doesn't take a pay cut. Outside of Briggs though, we will be looking at a major overhaul of nearly the entire defense.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    That's the whole point on why I wrote that blog. Out of those 27 players there are 13 that are true starters and 6 that are backups. The rest are just ST players and bodies.

    Still scary to think about how bare the Bears could be next year.

  • If we don't win the superbowl and we start a roster from scratch, I'm down with that too.

    Oh, and Urlacher, Urlacher, Urlacher. Center, Center, Center.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Good job guys. And just to add to the 2014 madness, we're going to have about $40M in cap space for Emery to reshape the roster as he sees fit.

    Look at what Emery has done with the nickles he inherited trying to clean up Angelo's mess. Imagine what Emery can do with $43M.

    "The Bears have 33 players under contract for 2014 who count only $81.1 million against the cap. Two-thirds of that cap money is devoted to six players — defensive end Julius Peppers, wide receiver Brandon Marshall, running back Matt Forte, linebacker Lance Briggs, Bushrod and Bennett."

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0407-bears-chicago-20130407,0,1799231.story?track=rss

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Well, I'm not too worried.

    Why?

    Because this is Cutler's put-up-or-shut-up year. If he shows--and it's gotta be from Week 1--that he's finally got the tools to be an All-Pro QB, he'll be a Bear in 2014. If he can't put together a great season with all the tools Emery & Trestman have given him, he'll be shown the door.

    This is Jennings' last year as a Bear. If he has another strong year, no way the Bears can afford to keep him. If he doesn't have a good year, no way the Bears will want to keep him--they'll see 2012 as a flash in the pan.

    Peanut will be back. Home town discount. He's a BFL (Bear For Life), unburdened by the pride Lack and Kreutz had. He'll get a good contract for an aging CB, and maybe issues at Safety will push him in that direction in the twilight of his career. Again, not worried. Plenty of FA CBs for 2014.

    Pepp is gonna be the defensive Cutler. He's got to have a great year to be back in 2014 (without a restructuring). I think the guy's a great player, and on par with Briggs & Peanut as the key guys on D now, but his cap hit is just too big. I think he'll be back in 2014, and the Bears' front office makes lemonade out of that cap hit.

    Melton will be back. He's gonna have a huge contract. But he's also going to have a monster 2013, and will be worth the dinero.

    I'm more worried about the defense long-term. Short-term replacements on the OLine are fine, because we finally have a GM who recognizes that the OLine needs re-working. I fully expect that on opening day 2013, there will be only one OLine starter left from 2012, and that guy will be playing a different position (hint: it's Carimi at RG. I'm thinking Emery gets Fluker for RT and a new Center in R3).

  • What's your take R2?

    On one hand you've got a lot of guys playing their best/hardest for a new contract. On the other hand, how much will these guys buy-in to the new philosophy and teamwork will there be if they're focused on accumulating individual statistics?

  • In reply to Shady:

    The tape don't lie my man. When you're playing for a contract or for someone else to give you a contract you ball out.

    When you are well fed and are just trying to hit sack bonuses....well that's a different story.

    This is going to be a memorable year. I'm calling playoffs definitely as we should have been in them from 2010 through last year but in the playoffs anything can happen so I can't call superbowl. It's didn't stop me from putting the bet down though..

    This team is going to beat on people and score fucking points. Will it be a top 5 D? Maybe not but the offense will win games for us this year.

  • Only if the line gets fixed. I'm not convinced that has been done yet.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Precisely. Garza must send everybody Christmas cards here. He needs to be on the bench ... or just airlocked? No offensive line is going to do anything with a crippled geriatric in the middle of it.

    If Urlacher doesn't get any sentimental dollars then what the fuck is Garza doing still employed?

  • The FA cupboard is a lot thinner for Centers than it was for MLBs.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Like I said on my blog, Phil Emery and Marc Trestman are gambling right now. They believe they can re-sign these players one year from now at cheaper deals. How that gamble pays off will decide whether the Bears enter a rebuilding phase next season or remain contenders for years to come.

  • I think another part of the gamble is how the Bears do this coming year. If they make a deep playoff run, and the Emery-Trestman Experiment looks like a long-term success, they're gonna be able to get quality guys at a discount--or, if not at a discount, they'll at least be able to replace quality guys (who leave) with other quality guys (who want to join a winner). Welcome to the revolving-door NFL. See Patriots, New England.

    If the Bears stumble next year, expect housecleaning to make room for rebuilding.

    Long story short, Emery's all-in with this coming year. That's why Trestman; that's why no big scheme changes on D; that's why we're not going to see developmental players in the draft--we're going to see guys who can step in and contribute right away, all the way down to the 7th round and UFA. I would bet dollars to donuts that any WR Emery drafts or signs as an UFA is gonna have a 40 time under 4.45.

    I fully expect that Mizzou LB to be in a Bears uni in September. Guy's blazing fast. He'd be an animal on ST, and then in a year or three, he'll be ready for Will.

    But, bottom line, it's all on the line this fall.

  • Emery was all in last year too. That's one thing about him, he understands that the modern NFL does not allow time for "rebuilding" or "developing." You play to win right now.

  • In reply to Shady:

    One year deals, as that article I referenced, are part of a league wide trend that benefits both owners and SOME players.

    Many players realize that the cap will no rise until at least 2014, but most likely 2015-16. So, they all saw Joe Flacco gamble on himself and hit 3 cherries, and are betting on themselves to hit the jack pot too.

    Like I said before, I personally don't like 1 year deals in general. If the guy's good enough to sign, make it a two year deal structured in such a way so that the Bears could cut the player in the second year with no penalty. That way, the player will not get complacent, and if it pans out, the Bears will get him for a second year cheaply instead of wasting their resources on training, say D.J. Williams, only to see him make the PB and hit the market next year for another team willing to overpay (like the Vikes or Lions).

    I mean, you don't think the Gmen are kicking themselves right now for not locking up the Black Uni? The Giants could have locked up Bennett for nothing last year to a multi year deal. Instead, signed him to a "prove it deal" and he proved it alright, all the way out the door.

  • The only real problem I see with the one year deal situation is "if" Cutler got a new deal like Romo's, how many good players do the Bears let go because of Cutler?

    Tillman? Jennings? Melton? Buller?

  • Cutler ain't worth what Romo got, and he's worth a hell of a lot more than Tony.

  • I was more refering to FAs on one year deals, artoo.

    I have no problem with letting guys play out the final year of a contract. However, if come week 12, we're 11-1 and Cutler is kicking ass and taking names under the new system, then I saw we re-sign him then and there before the season ends.

    That goes for a lot of other players like Jennings, Woot, etc.

    I guess I'm more proactive that way.

    To me, it's better in the long run.

  • There's a medium there Butch. You have to balance continuity and leadership with avoiding dead cap space. Here's something to think about on those 2 years deals.

    1 year vet minimum deals count for less under the cap than they actually cost. That's designed to prevent teams from opting to go young solely on the basis of minimum salary. But it sometime works out that you get a decent player with a cap discount - we have multiple players on those kinds of deals this year. If you go to a 2 year deal, I don't believe you get the same cap relief, so a two year $1.8M deal (vet minimum) is actually more expensive cap wise than 2, one year $900K deals.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    That's a good point NB.

    If it's a 2 year deal, maybe we don't get to save those extra $100K, which add up.

    But what I mean is that CERTAIN players are absolutely worth the 2yr deal. Like D.J. for sure should have been locked up to a two year deal. Even if we draft Ogletree, DJ can kick out to SLB. He's going to start barring some crazy outcome, and probably start next year too. FAs like James Anderson I can understand only the 1 year deal because if we do draft Ogletree, then he becomes expendable.

    "High upside" FAs Like D.J. or Okoye a few years back) should be signed to 2yr deals. Old vets who've plateaued should get the 1 yrs. That's just my take.

    Maybe Artoo or someone can look at how many times our 1yr deals turned into 2 yr deals anyhow (Okoye, Hayden and a few others have signed two 1 yr deals with the Bears, effectively being 2 yr deals, but like you stated, perhaps with less cap penalty. The risk is that they go somewhere else their 2nd year)

  • I think that Emery is keeping the cap clean by avoiding the 2 year deals. Next year's FA looks to be another bargain shopper's dream. Emery probably figures he can get the next DJ in 2014.

    Plus, if the player believes he will have a standout year, he doesn't want the 2 year deal. He wants 1 year and then no strings so he can try for more money quickly.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    We're going to have $40M + next year.

    $40M!

    I think an extra mil to DJ, or maybe Izzy, players who we know will be on the roster in 2014 would be staying ahead of the annual inflation (even with a flat cap).

    But I can understand Emery's position too. He inherited a bunch of contracts that he may not have approved, so he wants to remake the team in his image, so to speak.

    I can see that. But the Black Uni is a perfect example of a player "proving himself" and going elsewhere.

    I can be honest and say I thought that Okoye and Hayden should have gotten 2 year deals originally because I thought they had enough talent to stick around, but in a sense Emery was right too because he got them both back (though Okoye cost a little more the 2nd time around).

    This is one of those "Valid arguments" which comes down to a matter of fiscal vs psychological (unquantifiable) debates, methinks.

  • Well, I didn't expect this. Emery goes ahead and completes a deal with Woodhead Johnson for Tebow.

    http://tinyurl.com/2g9mqh

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Hahahahahaha... awesome.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Bastard!

    I was telling myself, "please god, it better be for a 7th" but then realized we don't have a 7th, so I clicked, and bam!

    It was almost as bad as when Johnny posted that link about Lach tearing his MCL, and I was thinking, "oh oh, DeCicio time..."

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Fucking rick-rolled by a trusted blog member. My T-Bone was all ready ....

    God those were some crazy moves though Rick.

  • It's not 1967 and the epic struggle between Jim Clark and Jack Brabham with Gurney winning Spa, but it's Lauda's '76 story which, probably, is more dramatic. With Ron Howard behind the camera it's probably going to be a bit over-tense, a back Backdraft-ish, but hey beggars cannot be choosers and at least Stallone isn't in it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9igiKOCh5Wg

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Am I going to get fucking Rick Rolled again?

  • In reply to Shady:

    i did earlier

  • In reply to Shady:

    Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I was sort of half rick roll'd. I knew you were full of it, and I check PFT to make sure before clicking. But then I was curious what the link was... "maybe GP has found a funny photoshop image or something."

    Nope...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Back when racing was racing, and drivers were porn stars.

  • I gotta watch some Dion Jordan Tubez. How do you get to be consensus #2 overall with a torn labrum and not expected to be pre-season ready until late-July or early August?

    He must have been an absolute beast in college.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yeah I don't get it either, he's a "high ceiling" guy because of his athleticism, but is inexperienced playing and will take time to develop. I'd rather take a sure thing, but if you're the shitty Jags, Raiders or Jets then you can afford to wait for this kid to develop.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Teams love "high ceilings" - they're the big boobs of the scouts.

    Athletic freaks like Ansah and Jordan have risen to top 5 consideration even though their production has been limited.

    Meanwhile, guys like Jarvis Jones who is a monster on tape vs SCC quality opponents plummets to the bottom of the 1st because he ran a 4.9 (plus the stenosis question mark).

    Speaking of high ceiling guys, have you guys heard about this Okoye kid entering the draft?

    6'5 305 Discus Olympian who ran a 4.78, but never played a down of football (though he did play rugby).

    That dude would be an awesome Dlinemen!

    http://blogs.nfl.com/2013/04/07/lawrence-okoye-impresses-at-super-regional-combines-first-day/

  • Didn't we have an Okoye already?

  • In reply to Shady:

    He does look fast

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UwVrBRruEk

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I don't care how fast you run, how high you jump or how many bench presses you get up, I just want to know:

    Can you block the man in front of you?
    Can you sack the QB?
    Can you tackle?
    Can you get open?
    Can you catch the ball?

    Can. You. Play. Football.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Fuckin' spot on Shady. Throwing a discus does not a football player make.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Nor does jumping out of a pool.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I thought the same, but he did play rugby, so he has toughness, unlike a lot of those other track guys. He obviously has the measurables. He's an Olympian, so you know he has the dedication. From hearing his interview, he seems to have the right mentality and smarts.

    How much does he love football, how quickly can he learn the game, the technique, develop the instincts, who the hell knows? He's at least a two year project (so was Melton), but if we had a 7th, I'd definitely take a flier on him. Ansah and JPP came to football late. Besides, Okoye's combine #s look eerily similar to...

    Okoye-------------------------Tommie Harris
    6'5 305lb----------------------6'3 295
    4.78 40yd--------------------4.78
    4.38 20yd shuttle----------4.31
    10'5" broad jump-----------9'1"
    35 inch Vert------------------31

  • Instead of trying to predict which player the Bears are targeting, I'm just gonna post players who are not typically mocked to Bears, but based on the "Grade Charts" of NFL.com, NFP & CBS, easily slot out at the 20 spot (give or take 5 spots). Some of the prospects may be surprising, but Emery is full of them.

    NFL.com (overall rank regardless of value/position)

    OLB/DE Jarvis Jones (17)
    OG Warford (18)
    DE Werner (19)
    QB Geno Smith (right at 20!)
    WR Hopkins (22)
    S Vaccarro (23)

    NFP

    TE Escobar (18)
    DE Carradine (19)
    QB Barkley (20)
    DE Datone Jones (24)

    CBS Scouting

    DT Star Loutuleli (15)
    CB Trufant (23)
    DE Moore (26)

  • Yes to everyone except: Geno, Barkley, Jones, Carradine and Moore.

    Warford, Hopkins and Escobar are players I would much rather like to see drafted in the 2nd round.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I agree too. I like Warford, and he looks like a poor man's Warmack. Warford will probably go late in the 1st though, might even end up on the Pack.

    You don't like Carradine? He was very productive (when healthy), though the inj red flag might drop him for Emery.

    Trufant looks like Peanut's illegitimate son.

    http://a.pac-12.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Desmond-Trufant-533x300.jpg

  • Trufant is a football player. I would be figuratively shocked to see him still available for DB at 20.

  • Some of these guys are a great example of what I was talking about above. If your target players are off the board and no trade opportunities are showing up, you don't reach on a 2nd rounder, you take someone that has a true 1st round grade.

    Lotuleli was talked about as a top 3 guy before the heart condition came up. If Emery has done due diligence and sees its not an issue, that's a solid pickup. Trufant is considered the top corner in the draft, Vaccarro is considered the top safety. If these guys are truly first round caliber talent, you don't reach on a second rounder.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    IFF all our oline picks are gone, AND all f our ILB picks are gone, I would LOVE to get Vaccarro (wait... he's black, and not from rutgers right?)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I would take kenny the cowboy vacarro before any ILBs this year, no offense to Chris Conte.

  • In reply to Shady:

    not even ogeltree? Interesting... and fuck chris conte (sorry dave)

  • In reply to Shady:

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/kenny-vaccaro?id=2539320

    Not that hot in the combine. 15 reps - pussy? 4.63? Big vert but not all that impressive in the tests. It says he's a SS and not a FS, is this true?

    Also, I think he half white (NTTAWWT)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I like my Dbacks like I like my coffee...strong, black and agile with great ball skills and the ability to cover in space...

  • If you subout "coffee" for "men" this takes on a totally Te'o vibe!

    (NTTAWWT)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Vaccarro was mediocre at the combine, but his tape is awesome. Unlike those other safeties who ran faster, he covered the slot WR A LOT past season. SS don't cover slot WRs.

    When I was watching Mooche's "Impact Players" special, Mooch asked this question to a few safeties.

    "Who are you looking forward to covering in the NFL?

    One responded, "Vernon Davis." Another "Hernandez". You know who Vaccaro wanted to cover? "Victor Cruz."

    That's a baller answer right there. Fuck TEs, I can cover salsas.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Absolutely we should draft Trufant or Vaccaro if the dudes we like are gone - but is that even possible at 20?

  • Rugby players... south african rugby players.

    Just another day at the office. Jesus

    https://twitter.com/danroan/status/320636560208973824

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    My innocent daughter (who, by the way, wears an Earl jersey when we go watch games) recommended I respond with this:
    http://badassoftheweek.com/index.cgi?id=16999521462

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Dave, you tell your innocent Daughter to please NEVER respond to a SA player link with a filthy All Blacks player link. Bastards are so damn good. Makes me a bit angry.

    Besides, that dude is just straight up U.G.L.Y... and he ain't got no alibi

    btw, that entire 'story' was freakin awesome, "or maybe it's just that it's supported by a fucking psychic mini-Kraken that serves as the closest thing real-life has to a creepy-as-hell aquatic Hypnotoad"

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    btw, if I ever coach HS football again, I am SO fucking doing this with my team before every game

    Here's the Hakka: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_kMCFVCFDc

    Fucking intimidating man.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm gonna do that the next time I'm gonna do a gal. That ought to give her something to write home about.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "When you extend your tongue you're saying to your enemies... i'm gonna eat you. Your eyes will roll back. Your head will be stuck on the end of my stick."
    - Koro, in Whale Rider

    A fine movie, btw.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    On the subject of Rugby. Never really watched, but I pulled this clip on youtube. The author is right, this makes me want to watch more:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTMcNfs366c

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    She periodically lurks this site, and read it herself.

    When she recommended the story, it occurred to me that I don't ever recall seeing a reference to bad ass of the week on this blog - an astonishing oversight on my part.

    So again, my progeny shows me up. What else is new?

  • Wow this blog is looking trippy sometimes.

    Looks like Doug Free will get cut. Is he better than the shite we have at RT?

  • my left nut irish.

  • Too expensive.

  • I told you guys this was gonna happen will I proposed my mega trade of Webb to the Cowboys.

    Doug Free sucked balls last year, but before that, he was pretty solid (at LT no less). So who knows?

    Besides, the RT market right now is pretty flooded. Winston, Smith and Clabo are still available; I'd take them before Free.

    OG Moore is still available as well, but word is he wants $4m/yr, so he's going to have to keep waiting.

  • Want to see a team in worse cap trouble than the Jets?

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-raiders/cap-hit/

    $50M in dead money for players no longer on the team.

  • Just curious, because we've been staring at his picture for a few days now, where everyone stands on why why Manti Te'o. I know some of you guys were hoping he'd be available for the Bears at 20 during the college football season, I just want to know have any of you changed your mind since December? What is your official stance on Te'o at 20?

    1. Yes, draft him at 20. His body of work shouldn't be overlooked because of a poor Alabama game and gf scandal.

    2. No, the media circus distraction that will follow him is not worth the average on field production. Maybe a 2nd, but just not worth a 1st round selection.

    3. No Manti Te'o under any circumstances.

  • In reply to Shady:

    It's really tough to say. If all of the playmakers, Ogletree, and blockers are off the board. I'll take Te'o in the first at 20.

    I have a big feeling that Te'o will be there at 20 and that the Vikings are hoping he will fall to them.

    All I know is this, if Warmack or Cooper are there at 20 and we do not draft them, I might go crazy.

  • In reply to Shady:

    If nobody has taken a linebacker when we get to #20, I would trade down. I would much rather take the least popular of Teo, Ogletree and Minter (and Brown) and get back into the third round than to pick my favorite of the bunch.

    With that said, I probably like Teo and Minter as my top two LBs. I think Ogletree has the worst issues off the field. Brown has the most questions in terms of his physicality. Teo may struggle to step up his game against NFL level competition (as he did against Bama), but that's a risk you take with most players.

    So I guess I'm at #2.

  • In reply to Shady:

    3. Unless there is a 4, which is FUCK NO, then I take 4.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Warmack or Cooper, period. If those two are gone I will be pretty upset.

    If they are indeed gone, I might have a hard time taking why why over Vaccaro at #20.

    Teo is the 3rd ranked amongst the available ILBs right? My struggle is, do you take the 2nd - 4th ILB, or do you take the #1 ranked FS (if he’s there of course)? I think we take Vaccaro because we’ve already filled the ILB gap for this year, AND we may have a shot at minter or brown in 2 or 3 if we again get scewed out of OL choices, right?

    My net-net is... if all OL options are gone, you take Vaccaro if available. Period.

    ..of course, this is worst case scenario and if we don't fix the oline with a rd 1 and rd 2 pick plus some late round flyers (the dude who ran a 4.6 in the 4th?) we're most likely fucked again next year anyway... well, Jay is fucked.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If Warmack AND Cooper are gone, you take DJ Fluker or you trade down and pick up Barrett Jones in 2, along with perhaps another 2 for your one, and a 4 or maybe a 3.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    that's not a bad lan B my man.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    he would 100% displace weed nation for the ugliest fucking guy on the line though. Yikes, he looks like he's 50!

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/d.j.-fluker?id=2540166

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Is he Big Cat ugly?

    http://pbs.merlin.cdn.prod.s3.amazonaws.com/Video%20Asset/WTTW/chicago-tonight/52649/images/401023_iPad-Large_20121002215733.jpg.resize.768x432.jpg

    We could use some Big cat ugly on the right side.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    dude makes big cat look like the black Brad fucking Pitt maings

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Did you rent Killing Them Softly yet?

    Some killer shit, right there. I fantasized that Liotta was Angelo.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    yeah yeah... was good but not great. Kinda sad when he whacked him. I was expecting it though... I thought, no fucking way is he giving him a second chance.

    It was ok. Wasn't a Fight Club by a long shot. That's the shit right there. At the end I was like.... hooooooolyyyyyy sheeeeeite muslim!

  • OL in draft and one more OL before FA is over. If not I hope Emery gets hit by a fucking bus....not killing him but laying him up for at least 2 years so he learns his lesson.

  • if the guys are there (warmack, and/or cooper, and/or jones) and we don't take them, then Emery is not our guy and he obviously hasn't learned from angelo and smith's bungles over the last 5-6 years. Period.

  • Miller has us taking Brown at #20?! I thought he was a rd 2 or 3 guy?

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1575720-2013-nfl-mock-draft-updated-7-round-predicitons-after-free-agency-rush?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=cnn-sports-bin&hpt=hp_bn15#/articles/1575720-2013-nfl-mock-draft-updated-7-round-predicitons-after-free-agency-rush/page/21

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    1. It's BR.

    2. He's getting his info from this:

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-04-03/sports/chi-chicago-bears-kansas-state-brown-20130403_1_rex-hogan-pro-day-bears

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's fucking bleacher report maings, you know better.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He also has a R2 OLB and R4 SS.

    Moron.

    No fucking way Emery takes 2 LBs and a SS with his first 3 picks.

  • I don't usually cite other blogs, but this post has done it's homework:

    http://beargoggleson.com/2013/04/04/chicago-bears-pre-draft-visits/

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Draft day quickly approaches and the right side of the line still gives me diarrhea. Please address this.

  • It's looking (to me) like the plan may be to trade down into 2nd and go for Jones and Brown.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Jones is a scary prospect. On the one hand he can play 3 positions if need be. On the other he fucked up his Liz Frank.

    Trading down is poopy as well. I don't care if it's a Guard that people say is a reach. What do those fuckers know anyway. Navarro Bowman was a 3rd round pick. 91 other dudes were picked in front of him. It's not an exact science. It's a fucking semi educated guess based off of information that doesn't even necessarily translate into NFL success.

  • He played on that whore Liz Frank during the National Championship and kicked ass. How bad could it be?

  • In reply to Shady:

    Ask him after he handles 20 bullrushes from Pep and his foot falls off on the field.

    It effectively ended Brownies career. He came back from the LizFrank and strained his calf like clockwork. I'm worried about Jones not because the lisfranc will be an issue but because it will cause other issues.

  • Ryan Kalil had one as a Panther last year. Had it happened a year earlier we'd get something from it. I'm nervous about Jones, and while some of us might be willing to spend a 2nd (or certainly a 3rd) round pick on him, Emery has shown an aversion to injury risks.

    As much as I'd love to have a guy that was All-American at THREE oline positions (and academic All-American in like accounting or something real like that), I am not holding my breath.

    Were he healthy, I'd advocate spending the 1st round pick on the guy. That level of versatility is really rare.

  • In reply to Shady:

    It's a big deal, Shady. Jones might have to start off this season on the PUP, and many teams have now knocked him from a sure fire late 1st-2nd, to 4rth-5th because of his health concerns.

    That's good for us in the 4rth, but Emery might be more health-risk averse after Hardin and how Carimi is panning out.

  • Liz Frank says she's "kind of a big deal" fuck that bitch, I'll take Jones in the 2nd or 3rd and give him some time to heal up and sit behind Garz to start the season. Eventually he'll get in there and get the job done like he has his whole career.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Your ideas interest me, and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I think Angelo echoed the same thing about Williams and Carimi.

    I'll take Jones in the 3rd (if we had one), but not before. I thought Carimi was a steal, but I wasn't privy to the doctor report, and knowing Angelo, he was just trying to throw bread to the angry crowd at the Roman Coliseum

  • In reply to Shady:

    I'd say there's like a 3% chance Jones is a Bear.

    Because I don't think Emery wants to take the risk on the injury, and he definitely doesn't want to spend a high pick on a guy who might redshirt.

    So if Jones is in a free-fall to the 4th round, sure, Emery might take a flyer on him. But then, if he's free falling that far, some other team is gonna gamble on him being worth a 3rd round pick.

    In other words, if the word is out that Jones' foot is bad juju, someone less risk-averse is gonna reach and take him early. If the word is out that his foot is OK, someone less risk-averse is gonna take him early.

    Either way, he's not gonna be there when Emery thinks he's worth picking.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Good shit.

  • Fuck! OK, I guess I'll rewrite my last post. Not sure if this angle has been covered yet. Only two first year head coaches have ever won the SB with their team. The first was Don McCafferty in 1971 with the Colts. The other is George Seifert in 1990 with the 49er's.

    Both of these coaches had some advantages over Trestman. McCafferty and Seifert were both long time assistants with their respective teams and both teams had recently been to the SB. The Colts lost it two years before and Seifert took over a dominant team that had won the SB the previous year. So neither of those teams changed much and had continuity in their coaching staffs.

    If Trestman takes the beloved Bears to the promised land this year, it will be the first time a first year coach from outside an organization will win the SB.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    I know but he's taking over a team that EASILY could have been in the post season every single year from 2010 through last year. He's stepping onto a moving train. it's going to be an easy transition.

    Usually when a new coach comes in it's because the previous coach/team sucked ballsacks. Not in this case however.

    Stats can be utilized to meet anyone's agenda. The fact remains that we got some serious fucking talent on our team and it's about to come together.

  • I'm an eternal optimist Johnny, so I got SB in my sights. There's a first time for everything. I just looked that thought up today and thought it was something different to bring up, since I haven't made many football related comments lately. I got nothing to add about the draft.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    i appreciate your optimism. I already have a couple hundred down on the Bears winning the big game at 25-1. They have the Seahawks at 8-1 and the Bears at 25-1. I find that amusing.

    baseball sucks.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    Jon Gruden did it.

  • In reply to Viva:

    Harbaugh almost did it two years ago, too.

    Johnny's dead on here. In fact, our team was so good last year that some are still scratching their head why a 10 win team which BARELY missed the playoffs would fire their HC. Here's how Walt at WalterFootball graded our hiring of Trestman...

    " Bears hire head coach Marc Trestman: C Grade
    The Bears fired Lovie Smith for this? Marc Trestman has been out of the league since 2004, and has recently spent time coaching in the CFL. This can't exactly be a move that gives Chicago fans confidence. Trestman is an offensive mind who might be able to help Jay Cutler, so perhaps this will work out, but I have serious doubts. "

    But those of us who have watched every second of every game know that against good teams, Lovie get's his ass whooped, so change was needed.

    Trestman will be fine. We just must beat GB for christsakes! If we can't even beat GB, we don't deserve to be in the playoffs (GB got their asses kicked twice by the 9ers).

  • In reply to Viva:

    Damn, I forgot about that.

  • In reply to Viva:

    Fucking viva!!!! Welcome back maings.

  • Getting old sucks. I got the Metatarsalgia diagnosis. It's like a hot flare under the Lisfranc, like somebody put the hottest of heat ointments BETWEEN your joints in the middle of your foot.

    Full Liz Frank must be unbearable. This is fairly annoying, but I could run if I had to. My doc is angry with me because I won't wear a walking cast.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Why don't you wear it, GP? We only get one body here... take care of it.

  • Meanwhile Jamarcus says his power clean is 380.

    And Brittan Golden's is 315, that I find a stretch

    https://twitter.com/jmarcusweb

  • Bears sign DE Kyle Morre to one year deal!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    http://www.nfl.com/player/kylemoore/71403/profile

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    I like his measurables.

    6'6 260 and only 26.

    Might have just been an ill-fit in the Bill's D.

    I wonder what's the hold up with Izzy?

  • yep..that's what their saying..he's fits a 4-3 better...but many of the fan base upset becasue he's a hell of a player..and a good motor...sounds like AB.....

    btw if Izzy isn't wanting a one year deal...bye bye mofo..that's waht E-Train is getting...

    uh Lach????? how's the free agency doing fo yeah???? put your tail between your legs ...and sign with DABEARS!!!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Here's from NFL.com

    Combine 2009
    Combine Stats:

    3 Cone Drill7.4 secs
    Vertical Jump30.5 inches
    Broad Jump105.0 inches
    20 Yard Shuttle4.47 secs
    Bench Press22.0 reps
    40 Yard Dash4.9 Secs

    Strengths

    Positives: Rare height and wingspan for the position. ... Flashes initial quickness off the snap to pressure the outside shoulder of offensive tackles. ... Good overall playing strength. ... Can get into the tackle's body with his long arms and bull rush. ... Stout at the point of attack when he plays with leverage. ... Can get his hands up and create obstacles for the quarterback to see and pass through. ... Strong tackler and can pull down the ballcarrier with his arms. Negatives: Struggles with leverage and negates his own strength at times. ... Can get pushed back off the line of scrimmage when he plays too high. ... Needs to use his length more to disrupt passes. ... Doesn't bat enough passes down at the line of scrimmage. ... Marginal balance to redirect as a pass rusher or to break down in space to tackle. ... Flashes some speed to the outside, but too inconsistent. ... Had arthroscopic knee surgery prior to the 2008 season that requires a medical check at the Scouting Combine.

  • Bears sign DT Andre Fluellen from Detriot......

    raah rooh...Izzy is going to get dizzy if he don't sign on the linezy....

    E-Train on a mission...and that is this:

    "Either you're on the E-train or the track..and if you're on the track you getting your arse run over...btw the track is the Kumbaya Limited AND IT IS FUCKING OVER!!!!

    same attitude Da Coach had in 83'...make suer the door doesn't hitchya were the good lord splitcha!!!!!!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    http://www.nfl.com/player/andrefluellen/1706/profile

  • Lions looking at Warmack...sheite! wish it was us in that conversation.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    NO WAY an OG goes top 5.

    Especially when LTs Joeckell, Fisher or Lane Johnson can fall to 5. Would the Lions seriously take Warmack over even CB Milliner, DE Ansah or Dion Jordan?

    I seriously doubt that.

    I think the Lions are just fucking with us.

  • If the lions want to run the ball again drafting Warmack would certainly help.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I imagine the Lions are doing their due diligence. Plus, last year we saw like 5 of the top 10 teams trade down. If the Lions trade down with say... the Chargers (maybe if Joekle falls a couple of spots, maybe if Joekle and Fisher both go in the top 4), then they are in a good spot to take Warmack at #11.

  • In reply to Shady:

    So would Fisher at 5, and Warford at 37. They just lost Cherilus, and their entire game depends on Stafford chucking it to Mega.

    I know they just got Reggie, but #5 for an OG is way too high in my books. If the Bears were at 5 would we even be talking about Warmack or Cooper? We'd probably have signed Levitre, not Bushrod, and waited fore either Joeckel or Fisher to fall.

    Who knows though? The Lions suck for a reason.

  • Love the last sentence. It says it all.

  • Hey, someone provided the link earlier, and it's pretty solid if you put any stock into who Emery is maybe targeting.

    I'm just gonna copy and paste it. The info relays the prospects that the Bears have brought in thus far (along with their "grades" - which I assume is lifted from the NFL.com grading scale since it looks like their system. "-" probably means not graded).

    [84.0] - Terron Armstead,OL, Arkansas-Pine Bluff (EW)
    [90.3] - Arthur Brown, LB, Kansas State (PRI)
    [68.0] - Josh Evans, S, Florida (EW)
    [-] - Matt Evans, LB, New Hampshire (EW)
    [77.05] - Reid Fragel, OT, Ohio State (PRI)
    [72.3] - Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA (SR)
    [56.0] - Tyrone Goard, WR, Eastern Kentucky (EW)
    [60.0] - Stefphon Jefferson, RB, Nevada (COM)
    [92.9] - Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma (COM) (INT)
    [52.0] - Edmond Kugbila, OL, Valdosta State (PRI)
    [56.7] - Robert Lester, DB, Alabama (SR#)
    [63.7] - Zach Line, RB, SMU (EW)
    [54.8] - Bradley McDougald, S, Kansas (EW)
    [60.1] - Brandon McGee, DB, Miami (PRI)
    [71.4] - Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M (INT) (EW)
    [67.0] - Jordan Mills, OT, Louisiana Tech (COM)
    [-] - Keavon Milton, TE, Louisiana-Monroe (PRI)
    [84.0] - Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia (PRI)
    [79.8] - Sean Porter, OLB, Texas A&M (COM)
    [-] - Eric Rogers, WR, Cal Lutheran (PRO)
    [73.2] - Brandon Williams, DL, Missouri Southern (SR)

    http://beargoggleson.com/2013/04/04/chicago-bears-pre-draft-visits/

  • [87.5] Manti Te'o, Notre Dame

    (Just to update the list).

    As others have noticed, we didn't bring in Shea last year. That means Emery is a master of subterfuge; he didn't like those other guys in the interviews, or maybe they just got drafted before the Bears pick. Anyways, sticking by that precedent, let's take a look at the 1st rounders that have visited.

    LB Aurthur Brown. He's an odd one. The most athletic LB (Ogletree) also has the most character risk. The most decorated LB (Te'o) isn't athletic. So some make Brown the default top LB (highest rated in NFL.com) HOWEVER, Brown is small (barely 6'0). But is Emery looking at him at MLB, or an eventual replacement for Briggs? 20 is still too high by most mocks, so Brown might be a trade down option.

    OT Lane Johnson. Probably early in the process. No way we land him unless we trade up at least 10 spots.

    LB Te'o and Ogletree. We know these stories.

    So, going by last year, I guess we can scratch out Brown, Johnson, Te'o and Ogletree, which pretty much eliminates all LBs in the first round (unless they're that high on Minter, or are secretly targeting Jarvis Jones) or OT (unless they want Fluker as OG).

    That leaves other need positions in OG Warmack/Cooper.
    CB Trufant, maybe Xavier Rhodes. And naturally, BPA.

    One other interesting note, the Bears have brought in a lot of later round RBs (my thinking too since both Forte and Bush(?) were banged up last year, and do we really want to roll with Allen?)

    Johathan Franklin is a really good HB. I watched a few UCLA games, and he's a complete back. By most scouts he's rated as a 2-4rth rounder [72.3]

    I'm not familiar with Stefphon Jefferson, Christine Michael, or Zach Line, so they might be 5th rounders and beyond, but I'm almost positive one of these guys will get drafted, or another RB who falls (Lattimore?)

  • And for those wondering who Emery brought in last year pre-draft, here's the list with grades:

    [85.0] - OLB Zach Brown (North Carolina)
    taken by Titans rd. 2/pick 20/overall 55

    [59.7] - OLB Darius Fleming (Notre Dame)
    taken by 49ers rd. 5/pick 30/overall 165

    [-] - DE Tim Fugger (Vanderbilt)
    taken by Colts rd. 7/pick 7/overall 214

    [62.0] - S Brandon Hardin (Oregon State) <---
    BEARS rd. 3/pick 16/overall 79

    [85.0] - MLB Dont’a Hightower (Alabama)
    taken by Patriots rd. 1/pick 25/overall 25

    [90.5] - DE Melvin Ingram (South Carolina)
    taken by Chargers rd. 1/pick 18/overall 18

    [80.0] - OLB Bruce Irvin (West Virginia)
    taken by Seahawks rd. 1/pick 15/overall 15

    [84.0] - WR Alshon Jeffery (South Carolina) <---
    BEARS rd. 2/pick 13/overall 45

    [49.2] - S Matt Johnson (Eastern Washington)
    taken by Cowboys rd. 4/pick 40/overall 135

    [83.5] - S Trumaine Johnson (Montana)
    taken by Rams rd. 3/pick 2/overall 65

    [84.2] - DE Chandler Jones (Syracuse)
    taken by Patriots rd. 1/pick 21/overall 21

    [-] - OT Dennis Kelly (Purdue)
    taken by Eagles rd.5/pick 18/overall 153

    [] - G Ronald Leary (Memphis)
    taken by rd. /pick /overall

    [86.0] - DE Whitney Mercilus (Illinois)
    taken Texans by rd. 1/pick 26/overall 26

    [86.0] - WR Rueben Randle (LSU)
    taken by Giants rd. 2/pick 31/overall 63

    [52] - TE Adrien Robinson (Cincinnati)
    taken by Giants rd. 4/pick 32/overall 127

    [82.0] - OT Donald Stephenson (Oklahoma)
    taken by Chiefs rd. 3/pick 11/overall 74

    [58.7] - CB Keith Tandy (West Virginia)
    taken by Bucs rd. 6/pick 4/overall 174

    [88.5] - WR Kendall Wright (Baylor)
    taken by Titans rd. 1/pick 20/overall 20

  • Good info 4E85....

    I do like Brown and or Ogletree...Brown I feel seems to be the direction E-Train may like...

  • Interesting they didn't bring in Chicken Dinner for a visit.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Noticed that too. Also noticed that they did bring in both Jones and Mercilus. I have to wonder what Emery saw in those two that made him think McLellin was the better choice.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    It's a head-scratcher for sure. I haven't figured out that pick at all. I don't dislike CD but I'm afraid what we see is what we get. Great motor and some skills.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Briggs replacement at Will. Bank it.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    And a history of cincussiins... uhhhhhhggggg

  • How pissed were the Bears last year when the fucking Chargers picked 3 of the guys we wanted at the same positions we were looking at.

    Melvin Ingram, a Safety and that TE Ladarius Gree

    It was like watching a train wreck. The Bears were probably so freaked that Chargers were going to take Jeffrey that they moved up only a couple of spots just to make sure they got him before SD.

  • fuck the chargers. What a suckass org.

    Those motherfuckers are really starting over... with dogshit at QB. Poor bastards.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's probably because we watch all the Bears games but it's amazing how little shit Rivers has had to take vs Cutler. They always talk about elite and somehow Rivers' name is always on the fringe and Cutler is treated like the red-headed stepchild. I'd take Cutler ten times out of ten over Rivers.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    rivers.... SUCKS canada.

    He is so so turrible. And all my buddies who are chargers fan are still on his jock. I just don't get it. It's not like he has the raw talent Jay does. The guy's arm in the last two years has just gone to shit. He's done. he won't be in the league after next year.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The last time we played SD I was surprised how bad Rivers was. We pressured him and he didn't handle it well.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He has some sort of shot-put throw, which is fucking Hee-larious to watch as he tries to shot-put it over LBs and inbetween Safeties.

    Then again, his Oline has sucked, and he no longer has Tomlinson or Vjax. It's crazy to think how much he has fallen off the cliff.

    He's in his last year like Cutler though, so don't hate him too much just yet lol

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Probably has something to do with facts, Canada.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RivePh00.htm
    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CutlJa00.htm

    Let's see, River is better at:
    W-L
    Completion %
    TD %
    Int %
    Yds/Att
    Yds/Comp
    Yds/Game
    QB Rating

    In other words, in *every passing statistic* Rivers is better than Cutler.

    The complete lack of reality on this blog about Cutler is fucking mind-boggling.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    However, Rivers was surrounded by MUCH better personnel, coaching, players in his early years.

    The last two years when he has had Cutler-ish Oline, WRs, and oft inj TE, he has SUCKED. And that was WITH Norv Turner as playcaller, who is a much better OC than Martz or Tice.

    I would like to see how Rivers and Cutler stacked up the last two years, that might be a more accurate assessment.

  • Exactly. .. that was the point I was trying to make. Dude's arm just went to shit all of a sudden

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I obviously didn't make it clear that I was specifically talking about the last 2-3 years

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    One could argue that the Chargers should have had a Superbowl by now with the squads they've had. I don't think Rivers is as good as everyone is waiting for him to be. Cutler certainly shades him, but he needs to win something (because of his cost), and prove that he can throw the ball away like a pro.

  • I agree that Cutler's game would improve if he learned to throw the ball away better. In fairness he has improved there over the past couple of seasons, and the INT numbers prove it.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Dave I was obviously referring to the last 2-3 years. I should have stated that. You know I'm no longer a Cutler apologist.

  • and the year before that, those cocksuckers drafted DT Liegut who didn't even fit their scheme, and I know Lovie had a hard on for.

    Fuck those guys, right in their ocular cavities!

  • Seahawks just brought Thigpen and Seneca Wallace to tryout.

    Maybe we oughta think about who is backing up Jay sometime... soon. Esp. with a new scheme coming in, it helps to have another vet in there.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    No shit.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    McCown is the vet backup. I think Emery will draft a QB in the second half of the draft. Cutler in a contract year, new coach, the need for a long term solution at backup QB... we're going to pick up a rookie.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    McCown will back him up this year.

    If Jay doesn't perform up to Trestman's vision, Tyler Wilson or Mike Glennon in the later rounds will be leading the Bears sooner rather than later.

  • I saw one mock at least where Tyler Wilson was rated the number one QB in the draft! We need to move on this guy, and getting him at 50 could be a steal. You couldn't pass him up in the third, although we don't even have a third.

    A good roster has the what-if scenarios built in. What if Jay breaks his penis in pre-season? It's back to the nineties.

  • He just had a kid, that is not a legitimate concern.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Tyler Thigpen doesn't suck. Where's Rosenfels again? He's a free agent. If we're not drafting Tyler Wilson then we can do worse by throwing Sage vet minimum.

  • No offense Irish but Tyler Thigpen does suck. Not to mention Rosenfels is no better than McCown. I think we roll with McCown and Blanchard.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Tyler Thigpen over Luke McCown?

    And Rosenfels is only memorable for getting spun like a top in a game I watched a few years ago.

  • Holy fucking weather. It's 40 degrees outside, thunder and lightning like crazy, then hail for about 10 minutes where the ground looks like it has an inch of snow, then a total downpour. Now a little break, and that just looks like round one. Crazy early April weather in Wisconsin. Lots of big storms just building to the west and probably gonna get hit hard all night. Then the forecast shows ice pellets all day tomorrow and Thursday, with a good chance of snow on Friday and a low of 12 degrees. We are under a severe thunderstorm warning, winter storm warning, and flood warning all at the same time (still lots of frost in the ground). I hate "springs" like this. I might have to place a big salt order in the morning depending on how things go.

  • JaFat Russell interest?! Say it isn't so!!!

  • In reply to 505 Bears!!:

    The good news is that Harry Carey's has purple drank on tap. A Harry 7th inning staple.

  • First of all, don't ever fucking compare me to Jerry Angelo. Ever. If he had actually listened to fans over the years, we wouldn't be in this mess. Secondly, his first round draft picks were selected to start right away, unlike my Barrett Jones scenario. Third, please explain to me how far up your ass you reached to pull that 3% figure. Oh Emery is injury averse? Is that why he selected a player with a history of concussions in the 1st last year? Or why he drafted a player in the 3rd who sat out the entire 2011 season because of injury? Give me a break.

    Oh, and welcome back Viva.
    Jamarcus Russell? Can we have a rule that limits anyone named Jamarcus for playing for the Bears?

    Question: Jamarcus Russell or Tim Tebow, and no, death is not an option.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Easy: JaMarcus

    With his beard and his balding dome and bulked up physique, he looks like LeBron's older, paunchier brother. As a Bear, he could be used to occasionally head over to the United Center during Bulls practice and scare D. Rose into crying again.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Although the idea of Tebow and Cutler as training camp roommates is a tv sitcom that practically writes itself.

  • In reply to Shady:

    my goodness... who is all this fire and brimstone vitriol directed at... and who peed in your coco puffs this morning?

    Russell... I bet he'd make a better LT than fucking webb.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    First of all, don't ever fucking compare me to Jerry Angelo. Ever.

    Jeff, we have our DBB T-shirt slogan, now we just need a graphic.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    MB has a picture of me that should work.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Hahahahahahahah!

    I do... I do!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm in!!!!!!!

  • In reply to Shady:

    How far up my ass to find the 3% figure? Right around the appendix.

    Look, it's my opinion. Neither I am nor you are privy to the medical evaluations for Jones. But what I am privy to is draft history.

    Guy is either worse off than we know, or better off. If it's the latter, someone's gonna grab him early. Emery thus far has indicated he's risk-averse when it comes to guys with injury history; ergo, Emery won't jump in with the early-drafters. If he's worse off, Emery will stay away, and some other team will snatch him up as he falls.

    It isn't rocket science. It's projecting what we've seen of Emery and a big guy who has a lisfranc injury. Minus the lisfranc, I'm with you: I'd take Jones in a heartbeat. But Emery has more information than we do about the injury and the prognosis, and other NFL GMs are gonna react to their own intel about Jones' foot, too. And, given shit-for-brains GMs who reach in Round 1 for Round 3 talent, I don't think that Jones will last to the point in the draft where Emery would take him.

    But I could be reading the whole situation wrong. Or Emery might have very different intel than other GMs. But overall, I have a strong inclination that Emery won't pull the trigger and draft a guy who might not see the field this year. And, without a doubt, this is a deep-playoff-run-or-start-rebuilding-in-2014 situation. So unless Jones is there when the Bears pick in R5 or R6, I think he's not a Bear. But I could be wrong. I'm pretty sure I'm not. Thus, 3%.

    And in your "bullet to the head or bullet to the nads" question, I'd take Jamarcus. At least he won't be trying to circumsize kids in the offseason.

  • As for the teams in best position to take advantage of this year-five option, keep an eye on the Carolina Panthers (selecting No. 14 overall), New Orleans Saints (15), Chicago Bears (20), Indianapolis Colts (24) and New England Patriots (29) as clubs that may look to trade out. Each of these teams boasts a strong starting quarterback and could be looking to recoup picks, as they are missing at least two of their original selections from the 2013 draft.

  • In reply to Shady:

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/blog/rob-rang/22037047/nfl-draft-yearfive-option-makes-qbs-more-valuable

  • In reply to Shady:

    yes, kids, it's true. When you fuck picks up year in and year out, you have to find a way to get more.

  • Hey GP, you getting in on this shell game. Going to hit 15,000 soon maings. Get yours while you can!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm Buddy motherfucking Israel, bitch. To the penthooooooowse!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueN5It0EU7o

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_shVskm19oc

    Yes, I brought it back... you're welcome.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    chocolate rain down on all dem hoooooooo's!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    suddenly...... diabeeeeeeeeetus

  • In reply to gpldan:

    hahahahahahaha... exactly.

    How to contract diabeetus in 3 bites.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "I spent all my weed money"...BBBBBBBBBBBBWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_373806&feature=iv&src_vid=_shVskm19oc&v=q-sY6ZYPEZQ

    Dude, the only guy who hasn't gotten MUCH fatter is the dude with the mustache... the other 3 look like they're going to have a heat attack any second. And the lead guy's beard is BOOOOOOSS!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB...what the fuck do you expect...bacon.meat.bacon.chocolate.bacon.meat.bacon.msg.bacon....do I need to go on???????/

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  • The rumors about the Cardinals and Bears being interested in Russell was not true.

    Relax.

  • If LDL & Glitchy were still here...the rumors would be true.......

  • I want cake now!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Zce-QT7MGSE#!

    Sorry, I thought it was time we all re-enjoyed this...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I got 13 snakes over here!!!!

    My daughter loves that one. Classic.

  • Emmanuel Sanders to Patriots.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/patriots/2013/04/10/emmanuel-sanders-signs-new-england-patriots-offer-sheet/2070389/

    Ben the Panty Puller has now lost Mike Wallace to the Fish and Sanders to the Pats.

    That leaves him Burress and Brown.

  • D up front - 8 in the box

    Woot / Melted / Not-Flatbread / Pep

    Backup

    Moore / Fluellen (McBride?) / Collins / CD or Ozougwu

    Okeye gone
    Toe gone

    LB core

    Briggs / DJ Williams / Anderson

    Backup

    CD (bet he works out there) or Wilson / Constanzo / JT Thomas

    Lack gone
    Roach gone
    Geno Hayes gone

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Looking at this again, I'm swayed.

    Emery is angling for Ogletree. I'm pretty sure of it, now.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I think if you add the oline breakdown in there, you'll instantly and overwhelmingly realize that he will only attempt that if there are literally no olinemen left to draft at 20.

    Two words.... travesty.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    If he's drafting a linebacker, he'll do it in round one. If he's drafting a guy that can cover the pass, he'll draft the guy that played safety - Ogletree. If he's getting us a center, he'll do that in two.

    If we could get a third from somewhere, we could get Tyler Wilson.

    Or ..... he trades down and gets Arthur Brown, then a center .... and hopefully Wilson.

  • http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130410/nfl-mock-draft-5/?sct=hp_t11_a2&eref=sihp

    Fucking banks.

    I would fucking hope we trade down a couple spots to get either ogletree or vaccaro before we get a CB... since we have two fucking probowl corners. jesus banks.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He has Ogletree going to the Giants at 19.

    He also has a big white dude from CMU as the #1 overall. I haven't seen that since Mandarich.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Peanuts gone after year, and if he goes down who have we got? No problem if they want to draft a big old corner.

    Wouldn't getting the best safety in the draft (presumably, I don't know if he's the best) be a good thing? Haven't we been waiting a long time for a good safety?

  • well... at least I know what the back of my next Bears jersey is going to say. Thanks buddy!

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/jersey-fouls-extra-thanks-mammaries-pittsburgh-penguins-fan-130254675--nhl.html

    Oh and I honestly think I'm in love with Lucy Pinder: https://twitter.com/LPinderOfficial/media/grid (not at all SFW)

  • two words.... travesty

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDdqwc-FxZo

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    For 2 hours, 3 minutes, and 32 seconds, I hesitated on clicking on that link. I didn't want to get Rick Rolled again.

  • Hahahahaha... awesome.

    I am cruel, Erik, but fair. gotta mix it up and keep em guessing lad.

  • You know who loves getting Rick Rolled?

    Manti.

  • If Emery picks fucking Ogletree with the 20th pick my fucking brain will explode.

    It's not the 70's and you don't need linebackers who play on the team for 14 years. You need an offensive line that can make Terrell Davis look like a HOF'er, weapons for the your QB to throw to and a fucking pass rush that can also stop the run.

    I repeat, you will not see a LB taken with the 20th pick or with the Bears first pick for that matter. The NFL is a league where you can get:
    Rolando McClain for 700,000.
    DJ Williams for vet min
    James Anderson for vet min
    Nick Barnett for vet min

    Why would you then risk taking a rookie LB in the 1st rd??? LB is not a value anymore and half of Ogletree's highlights are tackles 8yards down the field.

  • it's also weird and i just realized this. I saw Manti Te'o play in his first ND game against Nevada and the QB was Colin Kaepernick.

    I remember thinking that Te'o was a super aggressive LB and played big. Kaepernick was the only dude on Nevada worth a shit.

  • Saw an article about Kaepernick and all the read option QBs on PFT a couple days ago. They talked to Nick Saban about how to stop the option. In his words: "the NFL is a pass rushing league." He's right, its so hard to stop a reciever with our rules, and the QB talent is so good, the only way to stop the best teams is by getting a rusher to the QB in under 3 seconds on a regular basis.

    But if the read option guys come into play, you see more and more need for gap discipline - less pure pass rush and more flexibility. To accomplish that, you need good LBs. The QB play will force teams to value LBs more in the next few years.

    But with all of that said, and with the league where its at... I don't disagree with you this year. The only reason I would take a MLB at #20 is if our preferred offensive talent is off the board together with the can't miss stars at corner, safety and few other spots.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    You need 8 in the box to stop the read-option. That means (theroretically) that if we run the option well, the only way people can stop it is to leave Marshall in man coverage. Then it's going to rain footballs.

  • Goddamnit you guys, do you realize that if Emery does the right thing and solidifies the right side of the line there is no fucking way we don't score 30+ a fucking game?

    He'd better do it and when we are scoring all day long i'll be shoving Cutler down your fucking throats....and you'll love it!

  • yes please sweet baby jebus (lobo's favorites of all the jebuses).

    Just do cooper, Brown, Jones (with our magically acquired 3rd)

    Everything after that will be gravy. Can you imagine this:

    1. Cooper
    2. Brown or minter
    3. Jones (Liz comes free as a package deal)
    4. Armstead
    5. The honey Badger
    6. Some QB

    Holy shit, I would fly to Chicago and personally blow phill.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

    And I would take pictures for your trip, should Emery be able to pull off your dream draft.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB..........+1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A0-u85aAYg

    plus if thats the draft for us I'm willing to do sloppy seconds....bbbbwwwwaaaaaaahhhhhhaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!

  • I'm wondering if teams drafting in the 2nd half of the round are going to find many willing trade partners. Everyone's saying this isn't a top-flight talent draft, but there is quality depth. So a lot of teams are looking to trade down.

    Unless there's a run on certain positions and teams panic, I'm not sure Emery's gonna find a trade partner.

    If we're stuck with the #20 pick, I'd be OK with a "reach" like Ogletree. But Cooper/Warmack would be the better value. And would address the pressing need more than Ogletree would.

  • We've got guards out the kazoo. Pro bowlers? Nope. But don't we need a stud in Brian's spot? Is it even possible to draft a guard and then get Arthur Brown in the second? Where is Brown going in these drafts?

    Surely if we can get that solid LB in first, then there is a decent center to be had at 50. If they are serious about the read-option then there will be a premium in that zone-blocking scheme on good, quick guards. Tackles will be less important. I don't really care what order they come in ... just as long as we're not shipping them out the door in two years like an Angelo pick.

  • Oh, and Blogfather, can we have a new post/thread? 300+ comments makes for a lot of wading through to get to new comments/thoughts at the bottom.

  • Apparently Bears met with Manti Te'o in the past few weeks. Not sure why he wasn't included on the list of players the Bears set up meeting with. McClellan wasn't on last years list so I was a bit worried when I didn't see Te'os name on the list.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I think they took the meeting here:

    http://www.colorsofleather.com/images/Manhole%20Chicago%20poster.jpg

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Hahahahaha... NTTAWWT

  • I don't mean to come off like a dick but is anyone else here a little disappointed in the writing on this blog lately? April 4th is the last post and is an interview? It is obvious that Jeff preemptively dismisses anyone that has any interest in the roster building and maintenance portion of the offseason as he does so pretty blatantly in his few and far between posts.

    The issue is that the guys that post here are the ones that keep the site going when new content doesn't show up for days upon days upon days upon days. Jesus man, we're not asking for 4 articles a day but it's getting a little crazy.

    I also don't get the unfettered love that Jeff's posts actually get when he decides to actually write. Too busy with Twitter I guess.

    I don't know how well this post will go over but I feel this way so I had to say something. I just feel like other sites just provide more value of content....it's just that their regulars suck cock and yours don't.

    Sorry for possible coming off like a turd.

  • I come here for the banter, not Jeff's screeds many of which I disagree with. But there are two areas that bug me that a healthy blog doesn't do, and yeah - probably it's time to say something:

    1. Don't keep holding contests and then blowing the results off. I never knew who won the picks contest. I entered the design a t-shirt logo contest with an interesting Hendrix design of Peppers, and was told it would be made into a shirt, and then it got blown off. So that when I won a Bears book from some writing contest we had, I asked Jeff to donate it to a public library and never heard back. It seems like we have contests and nobody wins, or people just lose interest. Or people like me, who are interested in who wins but don't play, we never find out.

    2. When the majority of the regulars think something is full of shit, address it. Namely: Cam Worrell. He was waved around here like a broad with big tits at an Italian wedding, and he states some things that are just wrong about player safety and helmet to helmet contact, and it never gets addressed. Tangentially, never once have I heard Jeff ask a question to a guest from this community. He asks whatever he feels like asking.

    I'm not really interested in hanging our at Oesterman's house, because he's like the weird kid on the block whose house smells vaguely of wonton noodles and you constantly wonder where his parents are, who keeps wanting to tell you arcane details about his football card collection but you aren't interested - but neither is it much fun when the blog owners treats the people who pump up his hits (and his revenue stream, meager though it may be) as if nothing we say actually matters.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    want to know my dirty little secret?

    I rarely even read jeff's pieces any more... even fewer listens to his recorded stuff. I come here for you guys now. I know, how fucking sad is that... you bunch of broke dick faggots (sorry for the slur, but it’s the exact saying that I’m looking for).

    I love you guys maaaaaaan.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I pulled off a 12-2 game last night Kill Confirm with just a silenced pistol and boner.

  • lol

  • Nice!

    I texted Rabbit a pic of my team deathmatch 44-5-34 win. Best. Game. EEEVEEER!

    Once you lay down three (yes 3) IMSs and have a big bird circling the kills just start mounting baby! Bang! Bang!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    ever said in the simpsons comic book guy's voice

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    nice

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I won the picks contest.

    Between my almost 5-month old OT and my teaching schedule this semester, I couldn't make it out to claim the prize (draft party hotel), and we haven't worked out what the replacement will be yet.

    I hear ya and feel your pain, dan, but I think the big factor here is the site. When Blogfather moves to the new digs, I think there will be some definite upgrades--and not just to the comment section code.

  • I'm hoping a new address will make this blog way better. Who knows when and if a move will take place. I don't get too worked up over Jeff's posts either way. I'm glad to have a place to hang out and have some laughs with you guys. If Jeff fiddly-fucks around and doesn't move the blog to a more user friendly site, I could see some regs abandoning ship.

  • I still want to know what your barrista thinks of your drink preference.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    :)

  • Have you guys ever thought about the salary cap and how it impedes teams from actually growing great talent and keeping them on the roster for years? instead teams now have to let them go into free agency if they actually perform like the teams thought they would when they drafted them?

    I was thinking that a drafted player that performs should count less against the cap when earning that second deal if he should perform at a high level. That way teams could keep "homegrown" players on their team and truly build rosters that stay in place for years. The high priced free agent would still be able to get a payday once in a while but it would be harder for teams to try to build a dream team just through free agency.

    Teams that draft well would be at a huge advantage to keep guys on the squad and develop QB's and other skill positions and the practice/developmental squad would take on even greater importance.

    I was just bored at work and wanted to know your thoughts.

  • i know it's more of an issue in baseball and hockey but it still affects foosball....

  • this is kind of unrelated, but football needs contraction. Jacksonville needs to go, and fuck it - take the Bucs as well. Fuck Florida.

    Seriously, Jacksonville and the Cards. Cards last year had more than half their home games locally blacked out. Arizona just doesn't give a fuck anymore.

    Raise the level of play across the board.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    about 132 young and rich athletes just told you to fuck off as did hundreds of staff, businesses and other suckers of the teat that would be fucked hard if a team left their shores.

    I can't see getting rid of 2 teams raising the level of play no matter how bad they've been as the majority of the players on the Cards aren't bad...just their QB and OL. You did mention 2 pretty sucky teams though. The Jags are hurting badly with the last couple years of irrelevance.

    There is enough talent to go around. There are countless guys from college and even young ex pros that never even make a roster that probably could if the situation was different.

    I hear you though.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Keep the Cards!! How else can I see Da Bears? Tried actually seeing them in Soldier, but that was a clusterfuck and I ended up at a bar downtown...Plus in Zona, the tailgating is awesome, no matter what team you are going for!!...But yes, fuck Florida!!!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The Cards are one of the two oldest franchises in the NFL (together with the Bears). It would be a shame to see them go. Arizona also just appeared in a superbowl not that long ago, more than a lot of other teams can say.

    Either Jacksonville or Arizona could move to LA and no blackouts would be necessary anymore.

    If the league wanted more competition, they could stop making the rules so quarterback friendly and allow teams the ability to build successful teams using strategies other than passing for 5000 yards.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    The Chicago Cardinals. 1898. Can't let it happen.

  • I like the idea. Fans lose something when there is high turnover. You just don't identify with the players like we used to be able to.

    While I was never a Cubs fan, I can still remember the Kessinger - Beckert - Williams - Santo - Banks - Hundley core that was in place for several years running in the 1960s. We knew those guys.

  • I think that idea has a lot of merit but I'll bet the player's union would see it as a way not to pay somebody as much as he possibly could get on the open market. Plus regardless of a discount against the cap, the team still has pony up the bucks and they just might not want to pay Melton or whoever his multi $$$ (whatever it turns out to be) the next year regardless of the fact that it might count only half that against the cap...

  • Also not going to happen. The teams wouldn't want that kind of exemption from cap penalties because, with the new cap floor, there is a certain amount of league money that players are getting. Giving cap exemption pushes that number up.

    Plus, the whole point of the cap was to prevent what you are describing. The NFL used to make it much harder for players to leave; then the free agency era was born.

    Last but not least, with the amount of turnover on coaching staffs and even GMs these days... "home grown" is a bit of a misnomer.

  • Or we could do like the Pack and actually draft well, re-sign our own guys, and ignore FA.

    Bang Bang!

    No, actually, I like your idea, but I can imagine the labyrinth cap rules with all that.

  • Find your talent, draft him, sign him to a ten year contract.

  • like Scottie Pippen 10yrs or Alex Rodgriguez 10yrs?

  • Ok, so I might have to see this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96TelFMZwHc

  • oops. shit.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You want some drama MB?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=316AzLYfAzw

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    seens it corm. cool.

  • http://siextramustard.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/kate-upton.jpg?w=400&h=600

    omg

  • I offer this story as a public service for the physical and emotional health of young women everywhere. There is little doubt, however, that my brethren here on DBB will suspect my motivation is not *entirely* altruistic.

    http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/braless-best-study-says-bras-breasts-saggier-161300096.html

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Makes perfect sense to me.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    thank you very much for your sacrifice dave. good man.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    "Taking measurements with a caliper, the researchers found"...

    Is that not the job all men want????

    Working at VS and your job description is...

    "Dees will fitter" Inspector#69...southern twang....lol

  • Some interesting notes about different positions in the 2012 draft:

    The top two QBs (after Luck and RGIII) were taken at #8 (Tannehill) and #22 (Weeden). I think guys like Smith, Barkley and some of the others are on par with Tannehill or Weeden in terms of their draft value. I suspect we will see three teams draft a QB in the first round. They are probably: Buffalo, Jacksonville and Minnesota. The Jets are also a strong possibility.

    The top "skill" player on offense went at #3. Most of the mocks I see don't have anyone skill guys in the top 5 or even top 10. I think that is a mistake. Walter has Tavon Austin going to Buffallo at #8, which I think is a mistake, but I do think that someone will take a skill guy in the top 10. Austin, Eifert, Patterson and Woods could all be targets in the top 10 as well, though I doubt we see more than a 2 taken in the top 15.

    The second best running back, taken by the Bucs at #31, was a probowler. Teams are undervaluing the running back. There could be some steals this year at the position.

    Teams traded up to get the top corner (claiborne at #6), safety (Barron #7) and linebacker (Kuechly #9). I don't see Vacarro, Milliner or Ogletree getting to us at #20. More likely 2/3 will be gone in the top 10.

    DeCastro was a "can't miss" guard, just like Cooper and Warmack. He went at #24. Don't listen to the pundits who think its a sure thing that teams will be forced to go guard in the top 15. In contrast, the top 4 guards were all gone by #50.

    10 out of the first 20 picks were not the teams' "natural" draft spots. Expect to see a lot of trades.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I think it's unfair to paint DeCastro as a bust considering he didn't really play last year because of a serious knee injury. And no, it wouldn't have happened in Chicago and yes I'm still pissed the Bears didn't draft him when they had the opportunity.

    I think you're right about Vaccaro and Milliner being off the board by the 20th selection and I wouldn't be surprised at all if CB Xavier Rhodes was off the board as well. Last year Kuechley was far and away the best LB in the draft, this year I think it's much harder to separate the top LBs.

    I also agree there will be a ton of value at the RB position, I'm hoping the Bears pick up a kid who can compliment Forte particuarly in short yardage situations. They have been paying free agent backups to Forte since he was drafted and none have really worked out.

    I don't believe Woods or Eifert goes in the top ten, but Patterson and Austin just might crack it. The second round seems like a good place to pick up a quality WR or TE this year while the first round is the place to get your size/speed freaks or take your shot at a QB.

    I posted an article above, lost in the 800+ comments, regarding the value of drafting a QB in the 2nd half of the 1st round. If teams are willing to give up current or future picks to trade back into the 1st round then the Bears should be in good position to trade down with a team who wants to grab a QB they fall in love with.

  • In reply to Shady:

    The point of my comments about DeCastro have nothing to do with whether or not he is actually a good guard. Like you said, that's still unknown because he got hurt so quickly. The point of my comment is that DeCastro got all the same hype that Warmack and Cooper are getting and he still fell to #24. Even though there is less talent in the top of this year's draft, I think people are still overpumping the guards. Teams will look at the premium positions first.

    As to who the top LB is, it doesn't really matter. The point is that some team will take a shot at a linebacker in the top 15. They'll have their perceived #1 guy and they won't want to lose him.

    At #20, we might be too high for a team trading back in to the first round for a QB. But if we trade back twice, we could find a couple of dance partners.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    A possibility: We drop back to #27 so Houston can make a move on their preferred 3-4 pass rusher and pick up a third and a sixth in the process (Houston has extras of both). Then we trade back from #27 to #38 with the Cardinals so the Cards can take their preferred QB (maybe grab Nasib ahead of Buffalo or Barkley ahead of Jacksonville) and get a pick at the top of the third.

    With that scenario we would be picking twice in the 2nd, 3rd and 6th rounds (though still be without a 7th). Our first four picks could look something like:

    38 - Warford (G)
    50 - Dallas Thomas (G/OT)
    69 - Jonathan Bostic or Kiko Alonso (MLB)
    89 - Markus Wheaton (WR)

    That is what I call a really solid draft. I might take this over Cooper and Teo in 1 and 2 to be honest.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I do indeed like this.

    NB, have you sent it to halas?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Can Thomas play guard?

    Are you guys really all okay with Garza? This is my biggest worry - facing into a season with the same center ... and no backup.

  • Thomas is like a lot of the tackles last year... a "tweener." He played both positions in college, he's considered a little under-sized (arms too short, height too short) to be a true tackle, but he has the footwork to play the position.

    No, I am not happy with Garza at center, but I'd rather draft someone that I know will pan out (a guard, a WR, whatever) than drafting a center too high just because or reaching on someone that won't pan out. Rookies in the NFL generally do not play center and I don't see anyone much better in FA.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I agree with being suspicious about TWO OGs being drafted before 20. It's just only happened once, I think.

    But this year is also QB/HB/WR deficient at the top, that it's a real possibility that no QB or HB gets drafted in the 1st, and all the WRs (except Tayvon, and he's a slot) are graded more in the 20s.

    Combine that with teams DESPERATELY needing OGs (Rams, Titans, Cowboys, etc) and this might be one of those weird drafts where OGs do get drafted before 20.

  • A lot of you think Jeff is on twitter a lot but he isn't. I'm just assuming but he could have a job or business matters he has to attend to first. Just sayin..

  • Well he could enlist help to maximize profitability but he insists on being a one man band. Admirable, but not necessarily the best decision for this site. Then again, he's built it up to this point so he obviously knows what he's doing. We're not building a golden calf over here or anything, we just want mo' content mo' frequently.

  • In reply to Shady:

    and how about a web site that actually fucking works.

  • Did you see Jay did a web interview?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex0gBiU84Us

    Now there's a bar Jeff could hit. If those wipes can get Jay, Jeff could.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Also, awesome sweater Jay.

    I think these bullshit sweaters are Jay's version of the punky QB's headband.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a_rBIlcVEc

  • In reply to gpldan:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a_rBIlcVEc

    He's hoping to be on the cover of GQ or Field and Stream......

  • In reply to gpldan:

    He's giving Cosby a run for his money.

    [insert Cosby ytmnd.com page I can't access from work here]

  • In reply to Shady:

    http://letitcosby.ytmnd.com/

  • Dude, Jay's DEF been working out this offseason. Hope it doesn't hurt his throwing motion.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KwSAyG3nBE

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    My biggest concern would be Jay rifling it through Marshal's body cavity....lol

  • MB, be careful out there...
    http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-sci-beaver-kills-man-20130412,0,1390143.story

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    They are indeed very curious... yet very dangerous animals Rabbit. Extreme caution is heavily advised.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    They are the national symbol in Canada (like the bald eagle in the US). They are much friendlier up here!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    my house too.

  • Ah this song reminds me of this thread.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNTxr2NJHa0

  • on and on
    on and on
    on and on
    on and on
    on and on
    on and on
    on and on
    on and on
    on and on
    on and on
    on and on
    on and on
    on and on
    on and on
    on and on
    on and on
    on and on
    on and on
    on and on
    on and on
    on and on
    on and on
    on and on
    on and on
    on and on

  • Here you go shady: http://movetext.ytmnd.com/ (NATSFW)

    (I don't care... I love it!)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    My happy place.

  • Kickalicious signed by the lions

    http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/the-lions-have-signed-that-norwegian-youtube-kicker-dude-because-theyre-the-lions/

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Unlike rhythmic gymnastics, the NFL does not award style points. Fuggem.

  • In the event this hasn't been posted (yes, I'm lazy in the off-season)...
    Sam Hurd does not have the best lawyer that money can buy.
    http://www.sportsgrid.com/police-blotter/sam-hurd-a-marijuana-freak/

  • SO boyz thinking of going on for ever...

    what happen to "Your Boy Roy"...no vid's

    anyone?

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    There were always comments about 'rearranging his life', but no details. I subscribe to his youtube channel and so I can see he's alive and commenting on videos. Man, he's bigtime into pitbull terriers.

  • Irish I subscribe too...but miss his breakdowns of games and players.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    They were great. Amazes me that little Linkin Park fans get away with using NFL film, but when somebody does something constructive with it, they get blocked. I hope he's okay.

  • CHOMPY!!!!!!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=puNhvXutVjQ#!

  • Odds the Bears select a TE at #20? I'd say 20% or more even with TBUnicorn now onboard. Trestman seems to love the TE position and perhaps fell in love with Eifert or Ertz. If Emery pulls the trigger on one of these guys at #20 I wouldn't be shocked.

    Would I be upset if Cooper or Johnson were still on the board? Jess. Jess I would.

  • In reply to Shady:

    So is Hot Rod (Rodriguez) kicked to the curb then if they are looking at TE's and not in a strip club?

  • In reply to 505 Bears!!:

    E-Rod is more of a H or Fullback than TE.

  • In reply to Shady:

    too bad fleener's not still available right?

  • Hey GP, when's your birthday?

    http://www.costco.co.uk/view/product/uk_catalog/cos_1,cos_1.2,cos_1.2.4/140490

    (at fucking Costco!?!?!?)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I want my F1 simulator to have G. Get sweaty.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlGgWQI-w7w

  • In reply to gpldan:

    wow, that's insane. You should get one... and only a tad over $200k. Steal.

  • Warmack is 6'2 320
    Fluker is 6'5 340

    Seems like Warmack would be ideally suited for the big boys in the middle. However, can he pull and get that big body up to the 2nd level? Does Kromer prefer the Cooper mold of 300 pound 'zone-blocking" type of guy?

    Fluker has the added bonus of being able to slide to RT in case Kromer finally tires of Webbnation, and Carimi is a bust or better at RG.

    Stay tuned...

  • You pay too much attention to measurables. Just look at the tape. The tape don't lie. And looking at the tape, I don't trust Fluker any more than I do Scott or Webb at RT.

  • In reply to Shady:

    No, I don't want him at RT, that's for sure. I said many threads ago that I've seen guys blow pass him on the edge, and that's not good in a division with Matthews. That's just an emergency plan.

    What I'm wondering is if Fluker can play OG. And if so, would he fit Kromer's vision of what that should look like? The chances of Warmack and Cooper being gone by 20 are probably 50/50, but the chances of Fluker being gone with them is not likely. We might even be able to trade down to get Fluker IF he projects as a better OG than say Warford, another big bodied dude.

    That, I do not know. Is there such a thing as too big for an OG?

  • What if Fluker falls to you in the fourth? Is that too high a pick to use on a guy that really only has worth in the run game / short yardage situations? How important is it to have a big old G/T that you can install on the goal-line beside Webb and then pound Bush in behind them.

    Quite often, being able to get one yard is really important in a game of football. We haven't been good at that. Outside the top three rounds, Fluker could give us a valuable advantage.

  • Think I just found our new Fullback

    http://i.imgur.com/TdOGua6.gif

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's pretty sad when the Lingerie League allows bigger hits than the NFL.

    I might have to switch leagues. When is Lingerie season, anyways?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jemima Brown.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Interesting lefg work. Musta been watching Suh

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7grY8nUTVdM

    Happy weekend gents.

    Ok, I'll say it... I love Jessica Simpson... that version of her at least. fucking yow!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I have to admit, while I'm a big fan of Simpson in her Dukes of Hazzard phase I'm a bigger fan of her when she gains a bit of weight and just has the most enormous breasts.

    It makes me think that she is just a crazy southern sex kitten that loves fried peanust butter banana and chocolate sandwiches and tons of cock meat. lol.

    cock meat.

  • I have to agree actually. I'm beginning to think that my infatuation with boobies is more of an addiction in reality. I guess out of any of the addictions....

  • A year ago I lost someone very dear to me. This blog, my wife, and the Bears helped ease the pain.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP5VZppw-n0

    Love you guys.

  • You're a genuine guy Erik. Don't change.

  • Georgie M should hire Erik for a set of promotional videos for the upcoming season.

    Anything would be better than last year's It's Crueler by the Lake campaign, but I bet Erik's would be a hit.

  • brah....that's what family does.........

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    +1

  • Wow...cannot beleive it's a year already....Blessings

  • You're a good kid, 'Too. And I agree wholeheartedly with Waffle - keep being you. Your grandpa would be proud.

  • R.I.P. Gramps. The seed in your heart shall blossom, Erik ....

  • What do some of you draft junkies think about Travis Frederick from Wisconsin? I've seen several draft boards have him rated as the top center in the draft and seen one mock draft have the Bears taking him in the 2nd (Rob Rang from CBS). He started seasons at both guard and center at Wisconsin. I've heard you guys talk a lot about the same 4-5 OL in the draft, but no one bring up Frederick. Thoughts? Irish?

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1665144

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    You're not going to get anyone to complain about Emery drafting more o-line help for Cutler, but for me, dawg, if Emery is going to draft a C/G in the 2nd round is should be Barrett Jones.

  • In reply to Shady:

    jes please.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    I like Travis Frederick in the later rounds, not sure about in the 2nd.

    A lot of the Cs are clumped together after Frederick.

    Jones, Schwenke, Holmes and Cave seem to be the most talked about, but they're all 3rd rounders and laters.

    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/scouting_department.html

    I think a C in the 4rth (or later) would be ideal. Centers rarely start as rookies, and Emery has stated he wants starters/contributors (and not just depth) in the first 3 rounds.

    Here's actually a comparison between Frederick and Jones

    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Pick-your-Poison-Travis-Frederick-vs-Barrett-Jones.html

  • The NFP mock draft has the Bears taking Warmack in the first. I love that scenario. If the Bears then take Frederick in the second, several people on the blog will be really happy, including me. Lobo will finally have his two guards (with the acquisition of Slausen), Irish gets his center, and the Bears finally will have a strong presence up the middle. The Bears have been pathetic in the middle of the OL since 2007 or 2008. Let the left over tackles fight it out for the RT position. I'm guessing Frederick could come in and start on day 1. LIke Irish has said repeatedly, Garza sucks. Get some big, badass bodies inside to open running lanes and slow the inside pass rush down so we can effectively run the west coast offense. I want to see some maulers up front who can handle the big nose tackles and DT's, not "finesse" guards.

  • Interesting comparison. I'm still in Jones' corner though, almost entirely because of this:

    "Extremely smart, Jones not only makes all the calls and works well with the other linemen to switch off and handle different DL stunts/games, but this intelligence helped him to start at all five OL positions during his career and even to switch between two positions during a game without any drop-off in the quality of his play."

    Perhaps I overvalue intelligence in a football player, but it is my opinion that it is a significant factor in determining whether a man lasts in the NFL. There are many stupendous athletes that never become anything, and lots of guys that last for years when you can't really see why from an athleticism perspective.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I totally agree with you that, if healthy, Jones is the best guy to go after because of the versatility, smarts and football acumen.

    However, I cannot think of one guy, who lasted for years in the NFL, that did not possess NFL athleticism. They all do or else they never would have gotten to the NFL.

    Now, I have seen some solid college players survive mostly on ferociousness, intelligence, some athleticism, etc over the years but in the NFL they all have that athleticism. Every. Single. One.

  • 2nd round yes please.

    POSITIVES: Top-notch football IQ and overall intelligence to recognize what the defense is doing and adjust the offensive line accordingly. Has bulked up and added bulk to his frame, carrying his weight well for a 335-plus pounder. Mobile enough to get to the second level and block in space. Thick upper body with the base strength to anchor off the snap and hold his ground.
    Works hard with his technique and doesn't make many mistakes. Fights with a finishing attitude and understands different scenarios, keeping his head on a swivel. Better foot quickness and agility for a blocker with his size.

    Comes from a program known for producing NFL-quality offensive linemen and has starting experience at both guard and center. High character individual and very coachable.

    NEGATIVES: Lacks elite athleticism and has some stiffness in his hips. Needs to keep his weight in check to stay mobile. Susceptible to explosive interior linemen off the snap and needs to set up quicker to gain position and block off-balance.

    COMPARES TO: John Moffitt, OL, Seattle Seahawks - Like Moffitt, Frederick lined up at both guard and center over his Wisconsin career, flashing the same sound technique and powerful base.

  • Yes, that's what I see on negatives. Slow setup, slow arm. Gets off his center of gravity too easily. Nice films on the tubez, put it in hi res and watch #72 at center

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wb0iUyoe3s

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQFAcRdyXKc

    He's same height at Maurkice Pouncey, IMHO the best center in football right now. Same weight.

    Pouncey stronger and faster, but this kid works at pick 50. I've seen him picked as high as 26 by the Pack.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm worried about this tackle we signed GP, his pass pro has been very Webb-like. Why did they let him go? Surely 2 pro bowls must mean something .. or not?

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/03/13/jermon-bushrod-upgrade-or-side-step/

    From CSN Chicago : "Emery said that Bushrod was exceptional when critiqued on ability to deal with pass rushers coming across his front and dealing with counters, the sophisticated, high-speed moves that produce sacks. Interestingly, Emery didn’t mention handling bull-rushers, which PFF noted was a sometimes-weakness."

  • You should be worried if we kept Webb and the bullshit offensive ineptitude permeating from Tice.

    Now we have a guy that was on an island 80% of the time last year which allows us to not chip every fucking play and a playcaller who bases his passing offense around quick routes that don't make the offensive line be an All Madden team.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That guy seems to have problems with bull rushers. Then again, so does Roberto, and Roberto's got to go.

  • It's critical to remember that Saints passed 30-40% more than we did and Bushrod never got chip or TE help. It's why Jimmy Graham racked up all those yards - he could always release and go downfield.

    I think the guy will be on par with Tait's first 2 years here, which would be great as far as I'm concerned.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    exactly. why can't people see that?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I think Irish is referring to this article which uses the per snap data...

    "According to PFF, Webb has allowed one hurry every 19.8 snaps since moving to left tackle in 2011. Over that same period of time, Bushrod has allowed a hurry every 17.8 snaps. Going further back in his career, Bushrod has allowed one hurry every 17.65 snaps since he became a starter in 2009.

    While those are hurries and not sacks, in many ways that can be worse. Half of Cutler's interceptions came when he was under pressure last season, according to PFF.

    PFF did their own story on this topic, providing even more to the comparison between Bushrod and Webb.

    There is a lot that goes into those numbers.

    Those who support Bushrod note the difference in terms of help they got, and there is something to that. The Saints kept one or more blockers in on 35.1 percent of their dropbacks, while the Bears did so on 74.4 percent of theirs, according to PFF. ([Bold added] Even if the Saints didn't give Bushrod a lot of help, the numbers clearly indicate they should have."

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1565624-chicago-bears-could-have-done-better-than-jermon-bushrod-in-free-agency

    Here's actually one from the Horse's mouth, PFF. The threads on both are as informative as the articles (more so, even).

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/03/13/jermon-bushrod-upgrade-or-side-step/

  • Doh! I double-referenced Irish.

    While it's true, the pressures were almost the same, as the stats indicate, the Bears gave Webb a lot more help.

    I also like that Bushrod is a SB winning LT, so there's no IFs here with him. He's proved that he can perform not just during the regular season, but when it matters most.

    The IF, the other variables, will be Kromer, Trestman and yes, Cutler, more than Bushrod. He got his ring. He's shown he can get it done. Hopefully that mentality and confidence rubs off on the others.

    It's also note worthy that the Saints did make a play for keeping Bushrod, but they had even less cap than us. Also, they got a higher draft pick, so they are in better position to trade up for an OT than we would have been, so it's not that they just let Bushrod walk since they didn't value him. As Peyton has said recently, "The left tackle position is keeping me up at night."

    I guess I have a measured optimism with Bushrod.

  • fb_avatar

    is the blog father on assignment? Or did he say something about not posting until the draft

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    I think he was following the NCAA BB tourney and then it was on to the Masters. Personally, I have no interest in basketball. As for golf, I realized early on I could either play golf or lead a life of debauchery and excess but could not afford to do both. I chose the latter...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    "I could either play golf or lead a life of debauchery and excess but could not afford to do both. I chose the latter..."

    I think Jeff should make a T-shirt out of that!

    Early contention for DBB quote of the year.

    Jeff should allow one of us to fill in these dog days of the off-season with "guest" articles.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    An excellent call, I might add.

  • If you make post 500 in this thread, you win a night with Danica Patrick

  • Ohhhhh.... iiiiiinteresting. Perfect fit.

    http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2013-04-12/james-harrison-free-agent-cincinnati-bengals-visit-pittsburgh-steelers?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl21%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D298194

  • Hey, just throwing this number at ya'll

    Best Tavon Austin chart stat I had was 59 missed tackles across the 4 games I watched. And I tried to be hard grader: http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/42574/321/tavon-austin-satellite-player

  • Have you looked at anyone else's "missed tackle" index? I'm sure Austin's numbers are great, but its hard to look at a number like that without a base line.

  • Food for thought on the Cutler situation.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/14/stafford-lions-still-expected-to-get-new-deal-done/

    Flacco, Romo and soon Stafford have deals that have overinflated the market. The situation on the Jets and Raiders right now thanks to Sanchez and Palmer not panning out has not slowed the ballooning cost of QBs. And the glut of bargains for free agents has kept plenty of money free for teams to sign those QBs to oversized deals.

    The true ceiling for the market will be set when Rogers signs his deal, which by rights should be at a premium compared to what those other guys are getting. Peyton Manning signed what was supposed to be an "elite" deal, but Flacco immediately eclipsed it.

    If Cutler were a free agent, there are franchises that would pay him a salary bigger than Rogers's just to be able to sign him. That's the state of the quarterback market.

    That market will probably come back to earth once the free agent market calms down at other spots, but that will likely take 2-3 years. We can't wait that long, especially given the price of the franchise tag.

    Emery has been a tough negotiator, and a successful one, look at the Forte and Briggs deals as examples. It will be interesting these contract talks unfold.

    One other thought. The tag for QBs under the new formula will be based on a 5 year average, which will help to temper some of the crazy 2013-14 cap numbers on these new deals. But it will still be around $20 million. Julius Peppers's cap number in 2014? Around $20 million.

Leave a comment