Bears Address Linebacker, Select Jon Bostic

Bears Address Linebacker, Select Jon Bostic

We knew Phil Emery wanted to get younger at linebacker. He did so by selecting Jon Bostic, linebacker, Florida. I don't know a ton about the kid firsthand. I simply haven't seen enough tape. So here's some stuff to look at.

Here is the breakdown from NFL.com:

Overview

Bostic played well enough as a junior to test the NFL draft waters, but he returned in 2012 as part of a very talented Gators defense. That same unit is loaded with junior talent, but Bostic was one of the true veteran leaders and saw a 7-6 2011 campaign transform into an 11-1 senior season. Bostic is an aggression setter, delivering big hits against opposing ball carriers in the lane or on receivers asked to run shallow crosses.

As one of the top inside linebacker prospects in the nation out of high school, Bostic had his choice of destinations. He arrived in Gainesville a semester early, and the extra work paid off with significant time on the field on special teams and the occasional spot at linebacker (he had 18 tackles on the year). He played every game of his sophomore year, starting the teams' first five games plus the Florida State matchup later on; Bostic intercepted three passes that year in addition to making 57 tackles, 2.5 for loss, and 1.5 sacks. Finally given the reins to the defense as a junior, Bostic led the team with 94 tackles, 10 of which went for loss, and three sacks. As a senior, he tallied 62 total tackles, including 6.5 for loss and three sacks.

Analysis

Strengths

Downhill Mike linebacker attacks lanes in the run game, often running through reach-blocks to get to his target. Immediately presses with hands on contact with good pad level to create space to work. Brings power to his tackles, stopping momentum and sometimes throwing bigger ballcarriers to the ground. Stuffs fullback blocks and holds his ground to stop linemen if unable to beat their blocks. Flashes the ability to pop off or swipe away linemen with his hands to grab backs in his immediate area. Does not mind getting in on piles or cleaning them up. Fights to take care of his responsibility, working the blocks all the way to the edge. Hustles in coverage, knows responsibilities on the tight end/running back and works to limit yards after catch. Sniffs out screens and secures the stop. Has experience at inside linebacker in both a three man front and four man front. Vocal leader that moves teammates to their correct spots.

Weaknesses

Thickly built chest and shoulders but quickness is lacking. Won't be able to makes wasted moves after first step due to lack of burst. Has difficulties consistently get off better offensive lineman blocks and can be stiff-armed by longer ballcarriers. Hits with shoulder too often against the run, allows him to get sucked into offensive lineman's block rather than being able to make a play on the football. Overrun plays at times, lacks elite change of direction ability to recover. Closing speed to the ball is average, quicker ballcarriers elude his advances through the hole and mobile quarterbacks can run away from him. Almost gallops in the open field, won't catch pro backs and receivers from behind without help. Cut blocks at the second level give him issues. His eyes move faster than his feet can in terms of diagnosing the play and reacting.

NFL Comparison

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Bottom Line

Bostic is an absolute hammer in the middle of the Gators defense, especially against the run. He fights to take out blockers and to accomplish his assignment, but when he attacks with his shoulder Bostic fails to make a play on the football.. Even though he’s not as tall as some coaches would like, his production (he led the Gators with 94 tackles as a junior), onfield attitude and instincts for the ball make him a potential mid-round pick and gives him a chance to eventually earn a starting job at the next level.

Here are some videos to enjoy:

Here are some bits from Walter Football:

  • "The Bears are without a third-round pick, so if they want Bostic, they would have to take him in the second round. Bostic would be a nice scheme fit in Mel Tucker's defense."
  • "Player Comparison: James Anderson. At times, Anderson flashed for the Panthers since being a third-round pick in 2006. Anderson (6-2, 235) is similar in size as Bostic and both players' strength is defending the ground game. Bostic could go in the same region in the 2013 NFL Draft, and it wouldn't be surprising if Bostic is a pro comparable to Anderson."
  • "Entering the NFL, Bostic's strength is his run defense. He is a tough in-the-box run defender and is very physical. He has no issues with bigger backs and attacks the line of scrimmage. There is no hesitation to take on blocks, although he needs to improve on his ability to shed blocks. Bostic is a hard-nosed defender who should will help a team's run defense."
  • "Weaknesses:
    • Needs to improve pass coverage
    • Stiff
    • Lacks change of direction ability
    • Not fluid
    • Needs to get better at shedding blocks
    • Consistency"

Hard to evaluate the player without extensive film study. But the decision was clear. The Bears must get younger at linebacker. They did today.

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  • Well, can't say our needs weren't addressed.

    Does Emery trade back into the 3rd?

  • Why is he graded so low? Arthur went later and was 30 points higher! I know what we went through yesterday ... but ....

  • Ccaw..Ccaw

  • So, what Centers will be around in the 4th? Schwenke? Please?

  • Weaknesses:
    ■Needs to improve pass coverage
    ■Stiff
    ■Lacks change of direction ability
    ■Not fluid
    ■Needs to get better at shedding blocks
    ■Consistency"

    Umm....this is called being a linebacker.

  • Bostic is an absolute hammer in the middle of the Gators defense, especially against the run. He fights to take out blockers and to accomplish his assignment, but when he attacks with his shoulder Bostic fails to make a play on the football.. Even though he’s not as tall as some coaches would like, his production (he led the Gators with 94 tackles as a junior), onfield attitude and instincts for the ball make him a potential mid-round pick and gives him a chance to eventually earn a starting job at the next level.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/jon-bostic?id=2539978

  • Oh, before everyone shits all over the Bostic pick, can someone dig up the scouts' reviews of Briggs when he was drafted?

    If I recall correctly, the scouts pegged Briggs for a perpetual ST player and competent backup. And the guy's been a stalwart on great defenses.

    In other words, the scouts might know shit, but then again, they might know shit.

  • "Productive three-year starter with good intangibles. Hustles and plays hard. Has good speed and range. Has some ability to take on blockers and is good at slipping off them. There are teams who like Briggs as high as the second round, but question his toughness because he seems unwilling to take on blocks. Good enough to make a team and contribute, but might never provide what teams are looking for in a starter."

    Here's the link:

    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Scouting-reports-on-Bears-players-entering-draft/866d4dc9-95a8-4627-9276-898e4dc03baf

  • I don't think any smart Bear fan will "shit all over the Bostic pick". He wasn't an insane reach. Thanks Phil...

  • In reply to JR Cubbies:

    He wasn't?

  • In reply to JR Cubbies:

    Sounds like a reach to me.

  • I understand that Brown is small...is Bostic it though?

  • I'm so disappointed with this pick.

    Emery has thoroughly mailed in this draft.

    Thank god we saved our 4th, 5th and 6th because, there is no way we could have gotten a guy that is on the street but has NFL experience to come back in the league as cheap depth/specials/cannon fodder and use the later rd picks as part of deals to secure a higher draft pick to actually pick a fucking guy that matters.

    Holy shit man, could this have gone worse? I'm Mr. Optimistic but goddamn Phil you've pushed me onto the fucking ledge next to Big Mike. Be a little creative you fucking nerdball.

  • Packers just drafted Lacey if that makes you feel any better.

  • No worries there, he will be injured before we play them.

  • Just curious, who who would you have picked at that spot?

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    With a little common sense the Bears could have had true difference makers on offense or defense with their first pick.

    With a little foresight and creativity the Bears could have moved up several picks in the 2nd round and addressed a need that could have resulted in a real contributor and not JT Thomas/Marcus Freeman part 3.

    Just because there are 7rds of draft picks doesn't mean you need the draft to bring in talent. You use the picks to secure strategic moves that result in players coming in that will fucking be on the team. I don't need Hardins and Freys and McCoys and Freemans and Gilberts and bullshit. You can pick up hungry dudes who've been in the league before for a year or two who are working at a fucking gym or some shit and bring them in and pay them in Kraft Mac and Cheese and they'll thank you for it.

  • Emery, has been trainwreck bad in his first 2 drafts. Kind of scary..

  • Re-posting this from last thread.

    NFP analysis on Bostic

    STRENGTHS - Bostic is a very patient player, will sit in the zone in pass coverage and will not over-commit to a play too often. He has very good footwork and if he does commit too quickly, he has a good change of direction to recover and make a play on the ball. On pass rush/blitz, Bostic has good initial quickness and the speed to get the corner and pressure the quarterback and make a play. He is a sound tackler, who uses good form most of the time. He uses his hands well to take on and stay free from OL blocks on the 2nd level, which enables him to consistently make tackles on runs at him.

    WEAKNESSES - While he displays good short area quickness, Bostic has not shown the explosive closing ability to make big, impact plays. At times he does not follow through on tackle after making initial contact, which allows ball carrier to break his tackle. He lacks the top end speed to run with TE down the seam and to pickup and stay with RB on "wheel" route down the sideline. Being tight in the hips hinders his ability to adjust quickly when receiver crosses his face. When he does not stay free from OL blocker and they get ahold of him, he lacks the strength to consistently anchor and can be ridden out of the play.

    SUMMARY - Bostic is a guy who possesses the athleticism, quickness and reaction to become a contributor in the NFL, although I do not see him as a starting LB. He gets moving at the snap quickly, has patience and reacts well to the play. He will not over-commit, will stand his ground and has the quickness to make the play in a small area. However, I would like to see him explode to the play better. He needs to finish plays better when he gets close them. He can change direction okay when he anticipates having to, but when he gets faked he is slow to change directions and lacks the burst to recover and get back into the play. Bostic lacks the playing speed to make plays consistently outside of the OT box - Basically, he can be productive in a small area. While he has quick hands and uses them well to stay free from OL blocks, he lacks great strength and can be ridden out of the play if the OL can lock up on him. Overall, Bostic is worthy of a late round pick as I believe he can challenge to make a roster as a backup linebacker and special teams player. However, he is not someone I believe can be a starter and will struggle to carve out a long NFL career.

  • lacy to packers is BRUTAL.

    I am curious as to who you guys would have taken with our 2... if not brown?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I would have gone with Jamar Taylor, CB. ( I think he got drafted about 1 or 2 spots after us).

    We need a good nickle who can contribute immediately and maybe take over if we can't afford both Jennings and Peanut next year.

    TE McDonald is another guy I really liked and could have given Cutler more options.

    I think the 9ers took him a few spots after us too.

    Brown might be too small, but he wasn't too small for the Ravens.

  • fuck this shit. thanks for making a shit day worse emery.

  • There goes OG Warford, to the god damn Lions no less. Fuck.

  • after watching the video of #1 I really don't see what you guys hate so much about this pick. dude is a fucking HAMMER and looks like a pretty tenatious ILB.

    Kinda confused.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Agreed

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    So far so good. Would have preferred to trade down in the first and picked up a third (or stock pilled an additional first rounder next year).

    We've got two guys who play with intensity and have some potential. If Bostic can play in the middle - Tucker will be able to teach his "qb" from day 1. They get to grow together. I dig that in the long term.

  • In reply to Viva:

    Viva, I thought about you after I interviewed a guy about 35 years old for a part-time landscaping job a few hours ago. The guy has medical microbiology and philosophy degrees. He's taking a sabbatical from the rat race for the next 1.5 years, and wants to go back to working outside for a season, then traveling with his soon to wife for a year long honeymoon (while developing his own start-up).

    I asked him who is his favorite philosopher, Derrida? (joke). Answer: Ayn Rand, especially the Virtue of Selfishness and A Romantic Manifesto. She makes the most sense of any philosopher.

    We had a good hour long discussion about various topics after his answer, and I hired him on the spot.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    $

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Leon Joe 2.0.

    Not that I know enough about anything to say that. I just like the rhyme.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    +1...

    Ultimately, we need to wait until September to really evaluate our picks.

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    In reply to Scharfinator:

    That's what fans say when their draft leaves them puzzled. Emery screwed the pooch on this draft.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    We'll see.

  • Lacy to Packers?

    Sheesh, now I feel better about Emery's picks.

    Here's what I'm seeing with hindsight.

    There wasn't going to be a quality OL when the Bears picked in R2. Not a guy who could start. The Bears pegged Long as the last OT/OG who could start. So yes, a reach. But a reach with a purpose. I don't think Emery's grades on LBs potentially available in R2 were much different than Te'o's or Brown's. So, why take a LB in R1 when you can get a guy who grades out pretty close in R2, and then use the R1 to get the last OT/OG who can start and improve your line?

    That's the thinking.

    I'm reserving judgement on Long until I see him in preseason. He could be a very good pick. If Emery can pull a decent Center in the 4th, then the OL could be completely re-vamped from last year, with the only question being whether Carimi or Webb gets RT, or if Carimi gets RG while Long gets RT.

    And think of this for 2014: LB corps could be Briggs's swan song at Will, McClellin at Sam (moving to a rushing DE on nickel downs), and Bostic and Mike. That's a pretty scary combo. And whatever rookie Will gets drafted next year will give the Bears a completely new, young, and damn tough LB crew for the next decade (fingers crossed). Yes, I think CD ends up a LB, despite what the organization keeps saying.

  • I think the thought process here is correct bleed.

    yeah there were better graded guys at the long pick, but he was the next best OL in the queue and that's what we wanted to pick.

    I don't see the hate for the bostic pick. dude looks like a fucking hammer to me... but this is the first i've heard of him... florida does have a history of decent ilbs.

    If we sell out to get b.jones in 3 I will be happier with the way this draft ended. 2 OL cabable of starting and completely reworking our weakest squad for a decade in one offseason, and a new ILB.... I don't give a shit about 4, 5, 6 rounds... they usually end up being throw-aways anyway.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I we could get any Center in R3, I'd be happy. But, seeing as the Bears don't have a R3 pick and would likely have to give up all the rest of their picks to move into R3, I don't see it happening.

  • I know... I'm saying trade everything else we have and get jones in 3

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm not opposed to that, but I've seen a lot of draft grades putting Schwenke ahead of Jones, and that lisfranc concerns me. I think Schwenke's the better/safer pick if you're gonna piss away the rest of the draft.

  • not convinced, but either one will make me happy.

  • I seriously don't understand the need to replace Garza..... he won't fumble that damn many snaps

  • In reply to Bender McLugh:

    ???

    It's the not being able to block small children that worries me.

  • After the first vid. I still see the monsters of the midway philosophy stayin in tact. Dude can hit. They said he cant chase from behind but I seen him catch up to that RB and make the tackle. Mixed feelings now but we just have to wait and see. Might need some work but what rookie doesn't.

  • As this was my first visit to the site since last night, Jeff, can you please pass along thanks to the Rev for his comments. They cheered me right up after a shitty day.

  • OK, after watching the video, I officially really like Bostic. Dude is a hammer, and he chased down and caught from behind a WR.

  • yep, you and me on the same wavelength.

  • si.

  • That was my favorite play of his highlights, burning ass down the sideline to save a TD. It's not just that he did it, it's that he played until the whistle... not everyone does.

  • Honey Badger to AZ

  • That's a good spot for him. 9ers and Seachickens running that option with Honeybadger chasing them down ought to be fun to watch.

    Rams also got Tyvon, and Seachickens got Harvin, so those will be epic match-ups there.

  • Wish List:

    Schwenke drops to 4th, Bears pick him.
    Denard Robinson or Swope drops to 5th, Bears pick him.
    7th round I don't give a shit about. Or was the 7th traded and 6th round is last pick? Oh well. I don't give a shit.

    Then get that Northern Iowa burner in FA. Or the Central Valley State burner in the FA. Then some DT projects and the QB from Kansas State in FA, too. And maybe a Peanut clone, if someone can get the South Koreans on that instead of cloning beauty pageant contestants: http://www.uproxx.com/webculture/2013/04/this-gif-showing-every-miss-korea-2013-contestant-is-terrifying/

  • Holy Shit, Stephen Hawkins just announced a draft pick!

  • Armstead to NO.

    Guess the Bears are set at OT, then. No good prospects left.

  • Chargers Draft:

    Fluker
    Te'o
    Keenan Allen

    That is a fucking draft. 3 fucking potential starters.

  • yet, they always suck.

    they had a great draft last year too.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Because their quarterback is a homo and they are only now starting to focus on D.

    They took every single fucking player we wanted last year.

    thank god some FA talent was brought in because this draft sucks balls.

    i'm out. emery, you've sucked the homer out of me with fucking up of the Eifert situation. You just passed up the next Tony Gonzalez and in 10years you'll be the punchline of a joke and the answer in a Trivial Pursuit sports edition about the GM that passed on Eifert.

  • It's Tyler Eifert maings, he is NOT the next Tony Gonzalez. Trust me. Remember, Cutty still has plenty of weapons he just needed the time to find/utilize them. Stay focused maings.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I'll take that bet Shady!

  • Emery's first two picks are likely starters too Johnny. Come on in off the ledge man. You know Big Mike's crazy. Both of these picks bring a whole lot of nasty with them. I like that. It will be interesting to see Adrian Peterson and Bostic together twice a year. Unstoppable force versus immovable object.

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    In reply to Johnnywad:

    They are not starters. Bear Jew beats out long and Bostic won't see the field unless someone gets hurt. First two rounds added depth. For 2013.

  • Everyone is a potential starter. 3 years bro.

  • Matt Barkley cost himself millions by staying in school for his senior year.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Although with the rookie cap these days, probably only a couple...

  • In reply to Shady:

    Matt Leinart part two.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    Mark Sanchez didn't exactly help him out either.

  • Looks like GB traded out of the 3rd. I wonder why?

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Nope, they just traded down a few spots. The site I'm following is a bit slow on the updaets...

  • So it that this guy Bostics handle then? The Hammer? I like

  • Too common. How about The Mallet? The Sledge? The Ball-Peen really doesn't have a ring to it...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Gotta hit someone in the Big Boy's league first, and actually start.

    We prematurely labeled Carimi "The Bear Jew" but he's more like a cubbie.

  • ouch

  • Hammertime?

  • In reply to ben in norcal:

    JB Hammer?

  • Waffle, cheer up brother, I think this was a good pick. I gotta admit, I too was hoping they'd pick that Hunt guy. How old is he? They said one of his weaknesses was 'advanced age'.

  • I really hope there is something wrong with the guys at the National Football Post, because both of our picks graded out more than 2 points lower on a 10 point scale than the rest of the guys picked in each round.
    That was before we picked them, so it's not like the typical ex post facto SI bias.
    This was pure scouting evaluation.
    What the fuck.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    They also ranked Shea MUCH lower last year than Mayock and the Bears.

    I think they ranked him as a mid-rounder, 2nd at best.

    In fact, I'm pretty sure they ranked Alshon Jefferies ahead of him by a lot.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Its all bullshit posse. Look at all the guys that grade out well and suck in the NFL. Cedric Benson, Gabe Carimi, Chris Williams. Shit, any Bears first rounder from the last decade.
    We got a freak athlete at guard and a bulldozer at LB. Let's at least see what it looks like in the fall.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    Except, it's not all bullshit. I don't think Bostic is a POS. But I again think he's a position filler, especially if Emery is projecting him at MLB.
    If he's, as I hope he is, projecting him as a replacement for Briggs long-term, then he's a better pick, particularly because Briggsy is gone in two years max and it would be nice to have someone queued up ahead of time.
    That doesn't make him less of a reach but it shows some forethought, and not the desperation of taking him as a MLB just because Lach is gone. I'd much rather take BPA in the 2nd...but I think I'm right about where Emery wants him. He's probably also being careful not to hurt Lance's delicate feelings.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Our scouts and GM always seem to know better than the other scouts and GM's. That why we have been so successful with our first round picks the last 10 years.

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    In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    +100
    Just once go with the consensus best player available. See how that might work out, because our strategies, not so much.

    Bostic is a whatever pick. He'll play. Could be good, probably won't be a bust, (unlike our first round pick he's been competing against the best guys in college for a few years). Won't see the field next year without injuries to the guys in front of him.

  • The Bears were gashed vs the run last year. While I personally would have preferred a wide body like Jesse Wiliams or John Jenkins to stuff the run, I think Bostic provides the added value of contributing in special teams.

  • The Packers have quietly accumulated 10 picks in rounds 4-7. Why?

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    After Rogers' new contract, they can't afford to pay the new guys much?

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    They won't be able to pay anybody much, rook or vet. They're at the front end of a long, slow descent.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    LOL he's getting $40 million this year, and then gets an average of $15 million for the other 6 years. Fucked, the Packers are not.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Oh good. I was worried. I guess he's not getting paid THAT much. Giving $40m to one guy for one season always works.

  • I've recovered from my anger. I'm still very frustrated that we passed up on a guy that would have been impossible to match up with.

    What possible fucking coverage can you come up with to cover Marshall, Bennett, Jeffrey,Eifert and Forte all at the same time and not fall into matchup hell?

    Long better kill someone on the field to make up for this travesty.

    Bostic is sufficient. I overreacted.

  • The black uni causes the same matchup problemos as Eifert would have, but Bennett is the better in-line blocker. Too many needs to draft another TE in the first round after signing Bennett. And yes, Long will likely smash fools allowing Cutty to find his targets and Forte to run to daylight.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Martellus is a pro - there's no waiting around with him,he's ready to go now. How many teams have two good TEs? WE needed another TE like a hole in the head. Fix the line. Maybe we get a center in Rd 4 and it's done.

  • Easy, you blitz them because without picking an Offensive lineman Cutler would not have had time to find any of those guys and if you are sending 5 guys into the pattern then you have no one helping Webb at RT or whoever they find to play guard. This isn't flag football, you need linemen to block and they got the best available.

  • In reply to do53:

    I'm sorry but the most consistent, proven attack outside of the new-era Read Option running QB is the Pats mold of having two TEs, and playing formation chess where you can run-draw and then have the same blocking TE move to wing/slot.

    Pats wrote the book on it, Saints copied it.

    Warmack and Cooper are the best guards to come down the pike in a decade. Outside of those guys, who are special cases, you don't draft guard in round 1.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    they also have tom fucking brady my maingses

  • In reply to gpldan:

    best offense out there

  • In reply to gpldan:

    When was the last time the Pats won a Lombardi though? We have targets for Cutty- plenty of them - what he needs now is time.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yes and they also picked a guard in the first round before taking those 2 tight ends. They have 2 first round linemen starting, I am pretty sure we don't have any (unless you think Carimi starts which who knows at this point). People are also way behind in the "you don't draft a guard in round one" nonsense now-a-days. In the modern NFL with the short drops and the 3-4 blitz schemes, a left guard is more valuable than a RT . Kromer knows how to evaluate and draft OL.

    And I am pretty sure that the most consistent offense in the league is having a good offensive line. Look at the teams in the playoffs and tell me which one of those had a bad group there.

  • In reply to do53:

    "People are also way behind in the "you don't draft a guard in round one" nonsense now-a-days."

    150% correct with this one. Just look at this draft. Proof's in the puddin'

  • Guy will bring intensity. There is nothing not to like about that.

  • How much did you have to drink to reach your present state of nirvana?

  • Shit. Tennessee snatched Zavier Gooden. I was really hoping he'd fall a bit. Dude's blazing fast, be like having a Baby Lack on the weak side in a couple years.

  • My current theory...
    Bostic will take over at the Will spot when Briggs goes in 2014.
    Same size, roughly same knocks on them coming out of school.
    Long will get converted back to the D-line and become a HOFer.

    Other than that, I got nothing.

  • Somebody want to explain to me why we passed on Arthur Brown?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Jon Bostic was a tenth of a second faster in the 40?

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    He's been more of a leader on defense?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I don't know if Phil will tell us - but they had him in to Halas hall. Maybe he's stupid.

  • #Bears GM Phil Emery on picking Jon Bostic: "I've got to say that I have a preference overall toward SEC football players."

    https://twitter.com/bears_insider

    Great, our super "ace" scout is conference biased.

    I'm done.
    #fed-up

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The SEC is the best college football conference and produces the best players that all go up against great competition. That is better than our last GM picking guys from Abilene Christian every chance he got.

    I do not understand why so many people are down on Emery's draft. He filled need positions with players that he thought were BPA, I have no problem with that. If he drafted a WR in round one I would have been pissed but taking the third best interior lineman isn't such a bad thing when the 2 guys in front of him are potential hall of famers.

  • In reply to do53:

    I have no problem with that statement from a guy who wasn't using the 1st round to draft guys that are 20 points down in score from everyone else.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    "down in score" lol

  • In reply to gpldan:

    What other offensive lineman would you have taken?

  • Real simple question:

    THe Bungles, going into this draft, had all their needs primarily on the D side of the ball, where they are AWFUL. They desperately need DTs and secondary help.

    They also have Dalton to Jermaine Gresham. Gresham is a near Unicorn clone.

    Why, with everyone saying they needed D, D and more D - did they drop everything and take Eifert?

    I bet if we saw the GM of the Bengals during the Bears pick, he spit his coffee all over his shirt and said "no fucking way"

  • In reply to gpldan:

    http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/1156151/shocked-spit-out-drink-o.gif

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'll try to answer.

    Assumptions: Guard is a position of need. PE believes tKO to be the best available guard on the board. PE had tKO as the 40th best player on his "big board."
    Facts: We have the 20th pick. We have the 50th pick. We have a potential franchise QB who has been concussed, broken, bent, pinattaed, and driven to emotional rage.
    If we are sitting at 20 my highest priority is the safety and health of my QB. I value him more than I value my board. I try to trade back to where I think tKO will be (around the 40th pick), but I have no takers and the clock is winding down. I'm not going to get him at 50, so I take him at 20.

    Final result desired: get a guy who is going to competently defend my qb, while he throws darts to Beast.

    Endstate: check.

    Also: fuck the Bengals.

  • In reply to Viva:

    You can't grade the Kyle Long pick by referring him as a Guard. You grade him as a tackle, because that's what he's going to play. And if he doesn't end up as a tackle, then emery's screwed the pooch because you don't really draft Guards in the first round. Not when they're raw, project players.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    "He's one of my favorite players in the draft. He's immediately a starting guard that down the road is a starting tackle." -- Mike Mayock on Kyle Long

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    uhhhh... in the fiesta bowl he was left guard the whole game, from what I saw. he's #74

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2tqlm-njjw (from crunch below)

    http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=500&ATCLID=205504199

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Are we jealous of how the the Bungles do things now? Are they the blueprint of success? They bought the hype when maybe they should have drafted for need ...

    Why is drafting for need a bad thing? Kind of paradoxical ....

  • Why yes we are, they made the playoffs last year and we didnt. They signed your man Burfict last year and we didnt. You are Irish and they have a red headed quarterback and we dont! Nuff said brother?

  • Couple of quotes on Bostic:

    “I think Jon Bostic is playing as well as any linebacker in the country... He can play every down. He can cover, and there's not a lot of guys that can play inside and can cover and play on third down. He can. He's very intelligent. The other thing about Jon, and I try to get our players to understand, it's a 53-man roster in the NFL. You better play special teams. Jon is on our punt team, he's helped us on kickoff. He does a lot of other things that bring value to him in the organization.” (10/23/12)
    Will Muschamp, UF Head Coach

    “He's always had very good football smarts and real command of the defense. I think his leadership skills are improving as he's moving forward and that's just a natural progression as a senior and you have been playing and have the experience.” (10/19/12)
    Dan Quinn, UF defensive coordinator

    Bostic played in 51 games for Florida, with 32 starts. Last two seasons started every game at middle linebacker.

  • I know two things.

    1. We are going to move the ball, score points and play Top 15 D this year.
    2. I thank fucking god every day that we are not a team that is drafting guys like Geno Smith, Matt Barkley and Mike Glennon to be our QB's. It means we are good to go and just need to re-sign Cutty after our triumphant Super Bowl run this year.

  • BEAR DOWN

  • Agreed!

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    Getting Cutler was at the time the greatest move the Bears front office has made in 20 years. At the time, to me it meant we didn't have to spend every draft looking for a QB.

    What I didn't expect is that we would mess up every draft since then.

  • Seeing as nobody won the draft pick contest, you're extending that into the later rounds, right Jefe? Nudge nudge wink wink.

  • This is interesting to watch:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2tqlm-njjw

    From the Fiesta Bowl - Oregon vs Kansas State. Arthur Brown is highlighted, but that's Kyle Long at left guard. Kinda fun to watch Oregon's Barner blow past Brown through a hole created by Long @ about 8:30.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Fucking love it

  • In reply to Fresno,Ca Bear Fan:

    Check out the play at 5:02. Long ALMOST gets beaten badly by a spin move. Not sure how he manages to put the DT down, but he does. Looks like he very quickly snatches the guy's wrist with his left hand, then completes the pull-down with his right. The QB definitely deserves a lot of credit for avoiding the sack, but that was a pretty nice maneuver by Long (after fucking up against the spin).

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    In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Crunch, that was a nice move. On the next play he flattens the guy.

    I really liked watching Long on a tape that wasn't focused on him. He owned the guy across from him. But that happens in college football when you have future NFL players competing against guys who are done.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    2 things:

    1. With some tutelage and some time I think long will be a beast. I liked what I saw of him in that game... a lot. He's a bulldozer.

    2. Wasn't impressed with brown. I think we took the better guy for the new system. I realized after watching both guy's highlight tapes that brown is more of a lovie D mold guy, while bostic is more of a classic ILB. Besides, you really want a guy with the name fucking arthur at ilb for us???? Jon Bostic... Bostic... it's just a very bears ILB name.

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    In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    That was a great find!

  • I just realised I hadn't watched any DJ Williams or James Anderson's vids because I was so thrown by not having at least one more year of Lac. So after watching Bostic's vid ... I think I see a future with no Child Support in it. The future is bright, and the future is not bald.

    Bostic is a hammer ? DJ Williams, OMG !!! The dude is Wilber Marshall !!! Ouch! I can see Bostic on the outside, he's not all that big ... DJ inside, Briggsy of course ... but then we've got James Anderson! We actually have depth at the position!

    Melton, Pep, WootWoot, Izzy, Muscles ... with Optimus and Incepticon in behind ?

    WE. ARE. GOING TO. FUCK. PEOPLE. UP.

    And then our offense will come on ..... and what's this? A plan? Damn, it's the read-option. There goes E-rod leading for Matt ...... damn ... Marshall's in motion the other way ..... shit .... what's the Unicorn doing? Aw crap ... Alshon's gone route one .... Cutty's rolling out with the ball ... what the fuck is happening? We can't double Marshall now because this guy is coming over .... and Forte's ... oh no what the fuck is Forte doing ?! It's ... what's ... aw crap ... touchdown.... dang.

    NEXT DRIVE:
    Okay ... OKAY .... eight In the box ... we can't let them do that to us again ... okay ... run blitz that shit ... he's rolling out again.... yeah Cutty ... get some bitch .. how ja like them apples ... okay .... aw crap .... hey ... who's on Marshall? ... WHAT? ...Aw crap ... no ... back off, it's a pass ... HEY ! ... aw crap! 90 yards? Are you kidding me? There's three minute gone in this game ... really? Okay Aaron we need you baby.

    Monsters take the field ...three and out .... repeat for four quarters.

    IF. IF. IF we get a center.

    Trade the last three picks to move up, get BJ or Scwenke and this season is the one.

    Pumped. PUMPED I say.

    Go Bears.

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    Fan instincts taking over, rationale analysis moving into the background (as it should be). Two steps back from the ledge now.

    Thanks Irish.

  • What a fantastic rant Irish! It was enough to get me to come out of hibernation. Oohrah!!!

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Errmerrrgerrrd

  • In reply to Shady:

    theytukeeerjaaaaaahhhhbbbbsssss!

    Welcome back trac.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Well I'll be dipped in shit!!! Welcome back!

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Hi Guys!

    Just been watching at a distance for a while. Kinda like Moses mama. Lol.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    So tell us, who was your hand puppet, hmmmmm?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Welcome back Trac!

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Semper Fi

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKK!!

    TRAC!!

    Good to have you back in the fold brother. I'm glad I sat through those videos now. Good. Good result.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Holy Blast from the Past. What's up Trac? Any sign of #16 out there?

  • Does Hester have any trade value? I would love to move him for a 4th rounder.. That dude is pretty much done.

  • In reply to JR Cubbies:

    I doubt we could get anything more than a 7th rounder for him. I'm willing to give him a chance to focus solely on returning kicks to find some of that magic again. If not, the Bears should still see pretty decent starting field position like they did last year if I remember correctly. Hester didn't return any kicks, but he did force a ton of punts out of bounds and sky high. Hopefully this new brand if offense will be able to take advantage of it this season.

  • In reply to JR Cubbies:

    He has a fat contract (untradeable). I don't see him making the team to be honest. I love winng the field position battles, but that is a high price to pay when dollars are tight.

    Interested to see if they get a burner/returner in the later rounds...or if they approach Skunk to amend his contract.

  • In reply to Viva:

    Hester's making just under $3M this year and it's also the last year of his deal. A winning team with cap space could give us a low pick for the rental, but at this point we might as well keep him.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    I would have cut him just for calling it in for two years. If he was afraid to get hit before, he's still a jessie. He'd better be returning kicks AND punts though. And for his first return I hope his blockers just go through the motions .. then they huddle around him and say "Don't you ever disrepect us again Devin." Pick him up off the ground, dust off his corn-rows, and go back to work.

  • I very much like this post Irish... especially the 'soap party' suggestion. I like that a looooot.

  • props for 'jessie'. Never heard that outwith Scotland.

  • Just boarded, won't be able to post until we touch down in ATL. Then it's back to ORD. Here's hoping for more O line help, a nickel corner and/or a security blanket WR for Cutty.

  • In reply to Shady:

    It's okay Shady, I've got it covered. Got a snooker ball in a sock here if things get heavy. Might need it if we draft Leon Sandcastle in the fourth. Draft starts at midnight here so I'll get to see all three picks.

  • Well, we're in the WTF? rounds 4-7, as in, who the fuck is this guy?

    So, I'll continue to re-post the interview list (they did interview Long apparently, at the Senior Bowl, on the DL, and they interviewed Bostic).

    ----3rd rounders----

    [71.0] Brian Schwenke, OL, California (PRI)
    [70.5] Keith Pough, LB, Howard (INT)
    [70.0] Zaviar Gooden, LB, Missouri (PRI)
    [68.0] - Josh Evans, S, Florida (EW)
    [67.4] Ryan Swope, WR, Texas A&M (PRI)
    [67.1] Kiko Alonso, LB, Oregon (PRI)
    [67.0] - Jordan Mills, OT, Louisiana Tech (COM)
    [62.2] Jon Bostic, LB, Florida (PRI)

    ----4rth rounders----

    [63.7] - Zach Line, RB/FB, SMU (EW)
    [60.1] - Brandon McGee, DB, Miami (PRI)
    [60.0] - Stefphon Jefferson, RB, Nevada (COM)
    [60.0] Nick Kasa, TE, Colorado (INT)
    [59.6] Melvin White-CB Lousiana-Lafayette (?)
    [56.7] - Robert Lester, DB, Alabama (SR#)
    [56.0] - Tyrone Goard, WR, Eastern Kentucky (EW)
    [54.8] - Bradley McDougald, S, Kansas (EW)
    [52.0] - Edmond Kugbila, OL, Valdosta State (PRI)

    ----5th-6th-7th-UFAs----

    [-] Alan Baxter, DL, Northern Illinois (PRO)
    [-] - Matt Evans, LB, New Hampshire (EW)
    [-] Jeremy Harris, DB, New Mexico (INT)
    [-] - Keavon Milton, TE, Louisiana-Monroe (PRI)
    [-] Sean Progar, DL, Northern Illinois (PRO)
    [-] - Eric Rogers, WR, Cal Lutheran (PRO)
    [-] Supo Sanni, DB, Illinois (PRO)
    [-] Don Unamba, DB, Southern Arkansas (PRI)
    [-] Rashaan Melvin, DB, Northern Illinois (PRO)
    [-] Keegan Wetzle, LB, Navy (PRI)

    [-] Ungraded, most likely 5th-UFA
    ? - rumored, but not officially confirmed
    SR - Senior Bowl meeting.
    EW - East-West Shrine meeting.
    COM - Combine meeting.
    INT - Interested.
    VINT - Very Interested.
    PRO - Pro Day meeting.
    PRI - Private Workout.
    % - indicates more than one meeting.
    # - indicates meeting set up outside of the 2013 Senior Bowl or the 2013 East-West Shrine Game

  • Naturally, Scwhenke and Swope represent the greatest value at need positions (C/OG, fast slot WR).

    But if we learned anything in this draft, it's that Emery doesn't give a shit about "value".

    This is what I expect.

    WR 4rth
    CB 5th
    HB/Dline/LB 6th

    Everything else, UFA.

    I really really hope we get Lawrence Okoye in the 6th. Hey, it's the god damn 6th, it's hard to get excited over anyone in the 6th not named Brady. So this guy gives me something to watch.

    "At nearly 6-foot-6 and 304 pounds, Okoye ran the 40-yard dash in 4.88 and 4.78 seconds while posting a 10-foot-5 broad jump and a 35-inch vertical jump in a "real, first-class show." Brandt called him the class of the defensive linemen in attendance Sunday"

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000158087/article/lawrence-okoye-impresses-at-super-regional-combine

    I also hope we bring in Wetzle as an FA. He has a cool story and is a midsipmen like Emery.

  • Has he ever played football?

  • Rugby.

    But no, no football (american at least).

    But hey, JPP and Ansah only had like two years experience or something like that.

  • Oh, and here's the thing Irish.

    You can be borderline retarded and succeed as a 3-tech.

    It's a one gap gig. Football at its simplist.

    Ball snap.
    Hit hole.
    Hit QB/HB.

    Rinse, wash, repeat.

    Tommie Harris wasn't exactly splitting any atoms....

  • Long time no blog. Anyone up for Nassib in the fourth as a backup or possible replacement for cutler if he shoots for the moon contract wise this year? I like Nassib a ton better than Barkley.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    I think I'd prefer Landry Jones or Sean Renfree, Duke (maybe even Tyler Wilson, though I have some doubts about him).

    We might be able to get them later too. I fully expect both Nassib and Barkley to go early in the 4rth.

  • Tyler Wilson! Yes, yes, yes, IF he's somehow there in the fourth, but if we don't get our center in the 4th ... oooh Wilson ...ooh Schwenke .... aw crap. What to do?

  • Schwenke, Swope, Denard Robinson, Lattimore?
    Hope to god GB doesn't draft him. GB has like 2 picks in each of the remaining rounds.

  • This is a very enlightening article into Emery's draft process.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-chicago-bears-jon-bostic-nfl-draft-20130426,0,2644125.story?track=rss

    So, pretty much, Emery likes:

    - Versatility. Guys who have played, or could play, various positions.
    - Athletic. Related to versatility, but size/speed players.
    - SCC. Or big school prospects.

    Also said he was looking at CB in the 2nd, which I thought he'd draft. Interesting that he graded Bostic higher than the CB I wanted, Jamar Taylor.

  • Let's see if Emery can top Angelo's legendary eye in the 4rth...

    Former #Bears GM Jerry Angelo did well in Round 4: Alex Brown, Todd Johnson, Ian Scott, Nathan Vasher, Kyle Orton, Henry Melton

    Angelo also got Craig Steltz, DJ Moore and Corey Wootton in 4th round

    (Biggsy tweets)

  • the post-apocalyptic love for angelo truly sickens me to the depths of my being.

    It's like saying, "yeah, but you got a great haircut from having cancer"

    Jesus.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    haha...you gotta admit, Angelo killed it in the later rounds!

    Early rounds...not so much.

    Bang! Bang!

  • Putting the words "Angelo did well in round 4" in that order is like the man who jumps off the cliff and every ten feet he goes "so far so good".

    It's really expensive if you're only good in round 4.

    That may be Biggsy's last ever tweet. Has anyone got 'eyes on' ?
    How red is he as we speak?

  • http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c3#/video/bestoftv/2013/04/24/tsr-moos-pkg-dove-parodies.cnn

    "Boobs are just as beautiful as you think"

  • saw argo last night. Good flick.

    Starting to think ben afleck isn't such a complete dbag.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Respect for the Affleck. Oscar for writing when he was a mere lad. He's 'known' J-Lo in the biblical sense. 'The Town' rocked etc. etc. He's a mensch.

    Hear what Mayock said about Schwenke who just got picked? Fastest snapper he's seen blah blah blah ... I'm puking.

  • http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-round/dt-by-team-input:jac/dt-by-round-input:4

    barkley to eagles

  • hey $, schwenke's still available right?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yup.

    Barret Jones too, I think.

    I thought he would fall because of his inj and "UN-athleticism".

    Not being athletic seems to get you off the boards for Emery.

  • Dammit...there goes Schwenke

  • In reply to BearDown85:

    Woe are we.

    If we go into the season with Garza ...... aw crap/

  • OG Kugibila off the board (one of our interviewees)

  • titans just took him. damn.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    schwenke... as BD just posted.

    Fuck man... lovie and crew just keep fucking us... we keep being stuck right in the middle of all rounds. Seems to be fucking no-man's land. Can't get the guys we want in the early rounds... can't ever catch up with trades to get more picks.

    Fuck man... frustrating.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Did you see the tape on Schwenke they showed? He's an animal ! DAMN!!! Ten years of a cool center. Fuck fuckity fuck fuck.

  • I think we should go jones here if he's still on the board man.

    Taking a project CB doesn't seem the way to go.

    Let's take a chance on barrett... guy's a fucking versatile stud who's GOING to be a leader in the lockerroom

  • and there goes Jones....son of a bitch

  • FUCK... rams just took jones. god damn it!

  • and there goes the best remaining corner....damn...we are done

  • In reply to BearDown85:

    Yeah, we were looking at that CB.

    Swope is still on the board though, I think.

  • we're not going to take swope dude, we're going to take some fucking no name fucking kicker out of ookafalooks fucking northwester state.

    FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • I'm starting to get pissed off.

    Fucking do something emery for fuck sake. You are starting to smell more and more like fucking angelo god damn it.

    Move the fuck up and do somemotherfuckingthing you ultra conservative OCD turd!!!

    FUCK I AM SO SICK OF NOT HAVING A GM WITH SMARTS AND BALLS!!!!

    FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Reminds me of Alexander Pope's "Essay on Man"

    Know then thyself, presume not God to scan;
    The proper study of Mankind is Man.
    Plac'd on this isthmus of a middle state,(28)
    A being darkly wise, and rudely great:
    With too much knowledge for the Sceptic side,
    With too much weakness for the Stoic's pride,
    He hangs between; in doubt to act, or rest,
    In doubt to deem himself a God, or Beast;
    In doubt his Mind or Body to prefer,
    Born but to die, and reas'ning but to err;
    Alike in ignorance, his reason such,
    Whether he thinks too little, or too much:
    Chaos of Thought and Passion, all confus'd;
    Still by himself abus'd, or disabus'd;
    Created half to rise, and half to fall;
    Great lord of all things, yet a prey to all;
    Sole judge of Truth, in endless Error hurl'd:
    The glory, jest, and riddle of the world!

  • Wow. An Alexander Pope interjection on a football blog. He's awesome. Nice one Butch. I'm going to let that soak in and soother my blueballs from round 4.

    If we had Schwenke in the bag we'd all be stealing money to put on that 33-1. Fuck. I'd take Schwenke over Long. Guards we have. Centers we don't Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Bugger.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq9JaTp7pFo

  • here we go guys... get ready to be dissapointed again.

    FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!!!

  • Wow. Tyler wilson, schwenke, Barret Jones. Man not having a third rounder might have crapped on our whole season.

    But that third rounder was for Brandon, right?

  • Right...and I would take B Marsh in the third round all day every day and twice on Wednesday (or Friday I guess with the new draft format lol).

  • In reply to BearDown85:

    We just drafted Brandon Marshall for the season. That almost makes up ... FOR NOT GETTING SCHWENKE !! AWWWWW FUCK!

    (sobbing uncontrollably)

  • I know DT is not a huge need but Jesse Williams from Alabama is still there and would be GREAT value here. C'mon Emery....do something that looks smart

  • Mean Joe Greene!

    LB Kasheem Greene

    Not shabby.

    I'd probably prefer Swope, but what the fuck do I know...

  • I know the ratings mean squat but it's quite bad that our 4th round pick has a higher rating than both our 1st and 2nd rounders.

  • he was rated almost a 79 by nfl.com

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/khaseem-greene?id=2539297

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhb83_ASFuk

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    check out the hit at 1:20

    I like this pick actually. Briggsy are you watching?

    He is also a stripper, which fits us well. Kinda slow though.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He's good, MB.

    I like both of our LBs...I just thought we could have gotten better value in the first two rounds.

    To be honest, I'm not sure who's going to be better, Bostic or Greene...I think a 2nd should be an immediate starter and no one should debate who's better, a 2nd or 4rth rounder...

  • might be able to get Swope in the 5th

  • In reply to BearDown85:

    Hope so. If we can get Swope in the 5th, this draft might not be a total clusterfuck.

    I thought Greene would go 3rd, maybe 2nd.

    But once you get to the middle of the pack LB, beauty's in the eye of the beholder.

  • Greene. Not bad.

  • Another LB...Khassim Greene....not terrible

  • I like him more than our second rounder...

  • In reply to BearDown85:

    So does Pete Prisco and crew. They graded that pick as an A-

  • I like how we all lowered our expectations...sad Bear tradition...

  • true. 100% fucking true. god damn it.

  • Ok Phil, we get the point. We're set at linebacker. Could he put on 60lbs and play center?

    Is Sandcastle still there?

  • I think D'Jinkalage Morgoone is still available Irish.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Abilene Christian, right?

  • fleerda

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbjmcacPhK1qa0nqno1_1280.png

  • ok emery, give up our 5th and 6th and get us swope and let's go home.

  • Mike Mayok just said he liked Khassim Greene to Chicago and that a lot of teams had 2nd round grades on him.

  • In reply to BearDown85:

    I thought we were going to select him in the 2nd.

    This is a weird draft. So much talent. The 4rth this year is like the late 2nd-3rd last year.

    That's why it might be smart to give away next year's 5th or something since next year's draft might not be as deep.

    Phil's gotta stop playing checkers and start playing chess...

  • 100fucking%

    I thought that's what we were getting with phill.. unfortunately not.

    The only time chicago is going to get a GM like that is when the McCaskey's have to sell the team because of the tax hit... to someone who wants to win and is willing to pay to bring the right people in.

  • Greene had a 2nd 3rd round grade from Mayock? Maybe Mr. Mayock, but no we did not have a need there or haven't you been paying attention?

  • I guess JT Thomas can go back to taking fat girls to the prom.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Fat girls need loving too, GP!

  • The Colts drafted Khaled Holmes - a center

    Here's Greene's vid. He's a pass rusher! On a positive note, we're set on defense this season.

    Like every single year since 1919 or whatever ....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhb83_ASFuk

    Turn the sound down as usual.

  • There's still some solid centers, Irish.

    Cave from Notre Dame.

    Here's some other guys.

    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/scouting_department.html

  • Khaled Holmes v Lotulelei. Damn.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV2TpVSkuBU

    Did we need another LB more than a center? Maybe Mel is going to be blitzing a lot this season. we'll need to.

  • If DJ pulls a Chilo, and Briggs goes all Lambo Briggs, we'll have no LBs.

    Plus, LBs can contribute on specials.

    Good value with Greene, for once. It only took 4 rounds.

  • Anyone seen this Cave dude Butch mentioned? Can't find one highlight video.

    Do the Titans really need Schwenke? Can we trade somebody and a sack of cash? I've got two cute twins, I could throw them in to sweeten the deal. F**CK!!!

    Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ..........

  • He was a center at Notre Dame.

    Actually was a top C at the beginning of the season, but sort of fell off.

    He's not better than Scwhenke or Jones, but he was a starter at a major program with some smarts.

  • "STRENGTHS - Cave (6'3 304) has the thickness and natural strength of an NFL interior lineman. He consistently holds his ground at the LOS and absorbs bull rushes, despite often stopping his feet on contact. He does a good job of getting his hands inside on defenders, allowing him to get a strong fit and sustain blocks. He is quick to read stunts and adjust in time to pick up the late man without giving up ground at the POA. He demonstrates the foot quickness needed to execute 2nd level blocks.

    WEAKNESSES - Cave has a bad habit of stopping his feet on contact and reaching for blocks, causing him to fall off early. At the 2nd level he tends to bend at the waist and struggle changing directions against moving targets. In pass pro he struggles to shuffle laterally, and does not look efficient or comfortable in his movements. He is not aggressive at the POA, as he tends to catch blocks and can be jolted backward at times by more physical defenders. Because of his lack of physicality at the LOS, he struggles to get consistent movement off the ball on run blocks.

    SUMMARY - Braxton Cave clearly possesses the natural strength to play at the next level, but does not display the athleticism or aggressiveness to be a starter. He struggles to move well laterally, and tends to fall off blocks in space against both the run and pass. His propensity to stop his feet on contact makes it difficult for him to sustain blocks, as he often gets caught bending at the waist and reaching. While he flashes the strength to anchor at the LOS, he does not punch aggressively and can be knocked off the ball when defenders get underneath him off the snap. Cave is likely to be a late round pick for a team looking to develop interior depth, but unless he becomes more aggressive and physical with his hands, he is unlikely to see time on the field at the NFL level."

    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_player_scouting_report.html&player=37650

    I'd probably target him more as a priority UFA though...

  • Hmmmmmm. No thanks.

    (kicks dog)

  • Damn...Packers just keep getting more explosive on offense....

  • ahh, fuck!

    Pack got Franklin! Shit.

    I thought he was a top 3 HB.

    The Pack and Vike are killing this draft.

  • Packers got Franklin too! They'll need him.

    (hulk mode coming on again)

    FUUUUUUUUUCCCK!

    Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmm .......

  • I suspect Cedric Benson's career is over...

  • At least we know Lacy and Franklin are going nowhere when we play 'em ....

  • hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

    fuck me man. just fuck me.

  • Actually, his C seems a little better from this report...We already have two 6'6 OGs, why not get a 6'6 center and help the Bulls in the playoffs?

    STRENGTHS - Johnson (6'6 319) shows good initial pre snap awareness and rarely is found out of position. He is well built and has a strong lower base which allows him to drive defenders off the ball. He posses great height which can help him engulf smaller defenders especially blitzing backers and safeties. He has been extremely durable having played in every game and shown versatile enough to play an interior spot on the line. He has a nice at the snap step that helps him reach defenders and seal off holes.

    WEAKNESSES - With his height he does struggle to bend properly at the knees which help defenders gain leverage and can drive him back into the pocket on pass pro. He is also limited in his lateral movement when needing to adjust in space or recover against quicker defenders. He will need to improve his consistency with his hand placement because he gets high and allows defenders to easily counter and disengage. He also struggles athletically when getting to the second level and drops his head when blocking.

    SUMMARY - T.J. Johnson has been an iron man for the South Carolina line starting every game at guard and center position after red shirting his freshmen year. He has a great frame and could stand to add even more bulk if needed but it can also cause him issues with more explosive defenders. His ability to play any interior spot make him a huge asset along the line and should help him easily make a roster. He is best suited as a center where he can be more of a help blocker and keep him from having to match up one on one to often where he can struggle in space. It will take a season or so to help him improve his foot quickness and work on his flexibility to help him bend better at the knees and not at the waste. Johnson should be an immediate help to add depth and play on FG/Point After Units. With his height he can also move outside and play on short yardage and goalline situations. Overall T.J. would make a solid 5th round selection in the upcoming draft as he has flashed the potential to develop into a starting center in time.

    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_player_scouting_report.html&player=48193

  • New thread!

  • Cliff Stein = Rockstar

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4683513/bears-5th-round-pick-mills-agree-to-deal

  • I could tell you guys a hundred stories about how my buddies and I use to sneak into Soldier Field in the late 80's early 90's prior to the space ship renovation.

    We acted liked we owned it. Got there early. Froze our asses off. Hung out in the tunnel below the stands.

    Some of the highlights:

    Rolled grapefruits (that we drew # 72on ) @ Dexter Mannely after Ditka said he had the IQ of a grapefruit.

    I once simultaneously slapped Wilbur on the back of his shoulder pads and told him to keep his head up. (He was very pissed)
    Gave Sweetness a thousand high fives. (as well as samurai, mcMichael, Hampton, Fridge, McMahon)
    Snuck onto sideline and borrowed a chew (Copenhagen) from some kicker on the Packers, and I didn't even chew. (I was ripped and saw he had it, so I asked.)
    Asked Mike McCaskey for a loan.
    Used the "next time you go to the beach get out of the car" line to Brent Musberger and Irv Cross because their make-up looked soo awful.
    Saw Montana crush us.
    Saw the fog bowl.
    Routinely snuck into the press/media lunch room and indulged on a crapload of free food.
    Two of my buddies hitchicked down to LA and snuck into Super Bowl XX. (I was playing in a hockey Tournament in Canada that weekend).

  • In reply to Viva:

    Damn, Viva, how old are you??? Or were you doing all this in junior high?

  • In reply to Viva:

    you're a fucking animal Viva.

    Now, let's cut to the brass fucking tacks here... how many hajis have you killed?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    what?!?!?!

    I really want to know! Is that un-PC of me?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You would have been proud of my boys.

  • In reply to Viva:

    Bang! Bang!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    fucking site...

    I was trying to add: "I'm already am proud of all of you guys"

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    the technical term is schwack.

  • 44

  • 44 is the answer to Posse's question...

    damn.

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