On Free Agency and the Chicago Bears

On Free Agency and the Chicago Bears

March 12, tomorrow, unlike say franchise tag application day, is a day of actual importance on the NFL calendar. Franchises can be changed forever, both positively (Reggie White, Green Bay Packers) and negatively (Albert Haynesworth, Washington Redskins). The best teams in the NFL don't build their organizational foundation by cutting big checks to veterans. But the smart ones know how to complete their personnel puzzle and add the type of depth necessary in the injury-laden modern NFL.

The finest modern (post-Ditka) Chicago Bears teams were able to compete in January due to decisions made in March.

Where would Dick Jauron's 2001 Bears and their up-and-coming middle linebacker have been without the forces of nature called Keith Traylor and Ted Washington - both acquired as unrestricted free agents in the lead-up to the 2001 campaign.

Jerry Angelo has received his "fair" share of abuse in Chicago but he was able to rebuild the team's offensive line (ironically) in the mid 2000s by acquiring John Tait (2004), Ruben Brown (2004) and Fred Miller (2005). When Lovie Smith was hired and wanted to return the Bears to an off-the-bus run attack Angelo signed Thomas Jones at the drop of the free agency period. (It my memory that signing happened at 12:01 AM but I doubt that's accurate.) Free agency dramatically helped send that team to the Super Bowl in 2006.

There's a reason prospective FA acquisitions are referred to as "targets". The more specific and narrow the scope the greater possibility there is for a team to make the right maneuver. Attempts at grand, sweeping change, at a roster overhaul are almost economically impossible and often end in unrealistic expectations and unsustainable success. (See: Team, Dream) Football is not a sport where championships are won by the best collection of talent. Or perhaps more accurately, since the beginning of free agency football is not a sport where championships are won by the best collection of talent.

Where do the Bears and Phil Emery find themselves on the day before the day?

  1. They do not have a top forty offensive lineman on their roster. Their best talent (Lance Louis) is coming off a significant injury and while I expect his services to be retained I also expect the Bears to bring in someone with veteran status if only to calm the angry mob of fans who don't want to see another bullshit camp battle J'Marcus Webb can't lose.
  2. The Bears don't have a pass-catching tight end to own the middle of the field. What nobody seems to know - because nobody inside Halas Hall leaks anything ever these days - is if this sort of player is in Marc Trestman's plans. We assume the answer is yes because all of the league's top offenses utilize the TE  but is it any more than an unsubstantiated assumption? If Trestman is planning to throw only 30 passes to the position this year it is something the Bears can address in the middle of the draft.
  3. People point to the New England Patriots as the model NFL franchise and why not? They win their division every year and seem to win at least one playoff game each time they get in. But one needs only to look at that team's complete lack of depth at almost every position on defense to understand a basic truth: the Patriots win because they have a top-5 all time coach and a top-5 all time quarterback. Depth, as we've come to know it, does not exist in the hard cap NFL without maintained success in each draft round season after season. Adding depth vets in free agency is about short-term security. Signing players like Geno Hayes, Kelvin Hayden and later Jonathan Scott might not have disrupted the balance of power in the NFC but the moves enabled the Bears to survive injuries and win 10 games.

Phil Emery's offseason (and year, for that matter) will not be defined by what he does over these next few weeks. His year will be defined by the man he has put in charge of the football team. But to believe the Bears are in some kind of rebuilding mode is to lack an understanding of the dynamic nature of their current roster.

Imagine the 2012 Bears with adequate pass protection? Imagine replaying the season and replacing every Kellen Davis drop with a Kellen Davis catch? What you're imagining is a division champion. What you're imagining is a title contender. What you're imagining of 2012 is what the Bears could be in 2013.


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  • First to say welcome back Jeff. How was the trip?

  • In reply to Shady:


  • So tomorrow is when things start getting interesting. Good. I can only listen to so much locker room talk. I miss the days when we discussed politics, religion and other more intellectual pursuits. And while free agency discussions are far from those, they will be a welcome change to this season's blog discussion trends.

    I know, I know, hot chicks are hot and we want to bang them. As Cor and I have discussed, that's been readily established. Now, onto some FOOTBALL!!

  • Dabangblog?

  • Commie!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:


  • fucking commie

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    no no... hippie fucking commie.

    I don't even know you any more.

  • Fucker!

  • lingerie football?

  • How is arguing about religion and politics a more intellectual pursuit than fapping? Serious question.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Well, considering how part of these threads has involved trying to find the conversion factor between U.S. bra sizes and European blog sizes, I suppose it's not.

  • I guess we are heretics Doc. We are way too far out of the loop of pop culture. I was just reading a serious article about police abuse on Huff Post, and some of the most popular articles on the site were about:

    1) Justin Bieber dissing with Kanye West.
    2) Kim Kardashian's marriage.
    3) Did Selena Gomez (?) diss Bieber? Whoever she is.
    4) Selena Gomez helped Dad pick up Hooter's waitresses.
    5) Khloe Kardashian's cleavage "stealing the spotlight"
    6) Lindsey Lohan and house arrest
    7) Is Kelly Osbourne (Ozzy's daughter) epileptic?
    8) 2 stories about daylight savings time.
    9) Vince Neil in hospital
    10) Rick Springfield arrested
    11) Demi Moore hurt by divorce from Ashton Kutchner
    ......and on and on.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    You two sure you like football?

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    It's so meaningless. It's about as anti-intellectual as it gets...

  • Is Doc referring to the soon to be cult-classic "Boob thread"? Here you go, good sir.


  • more like this: http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSU8mAOY4kc_I3oC-aOCb22RWovyunC-_jEmKMVCxzef2vMjbOtBg

    "nooooo booooobs!"

  • With you all the way, Doc. Politics, economics, etc are far more entertaining than modified sweat glands (not that there's anything wrong with those).

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I'm willing to give it a try but it's up to you guys to get the ball rolling. Post some entertaining economics stories or something.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Does this count?


  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Double duty! Way to go Crunch!

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    The problem with politics, religion, etc is that eventually everyone starts screaming at each other.

    It's been my experience that blogs never change anyone's core beliefs.

    In order to properly discuss such serious topics it takes block quotes, fact checking and massive references, by which time, another thread will pop up, and then everyone has to scroll through a 100 comments of gnome code induced coherence.

    Football is made more for bite size arguments, and even then it can get longwinded (like me).

  • Everybody eventually goes to their own little echo chamber and beats off.

  • Things do get heated sometimes. But judging by the past, with very few exceptions, we seem to be adult enough to move past it all. Sometimes a good honest debate is a good thing.

    On the other hand, most of the characters on here are the same, so it's not like we haven't already hashed everything out over the last 7+ years.

  • I have free agency on the brain and am extremely interested to see what FA moves are made because that will determine what our draft strategy is going to be.

    TE in FA? Then OL, OL LB in draft.
    WR in FA? Then OL, TE, LB in draft.
    OL in FA? Then TE, OL, LB in draft.

    I love this time of year boys, it's christmas for adults. What shiny new toy are we going to get under our Bears FA tree this year? Martellus Bennett? Jake Long? Jared Cook? Greg Jennings? Dustin Keller? Jermaine BushROD?

  • I'm thinking OL, OL, OL, OL, whatever, whatever in the draft, just like last year and the one before

  • i just tried to make a coherent post about FA and Draft strategy and the fucking gnome code told me it was a duplicate comment. So fuck the code.

    It's easier to just do this:


  • lol , then it shows up....so enjoy the video anyway!!!

  • her cup runeth over johnny.

  • The gnome givith and the gnome taketh away...

    But mostly the gnome taketh away.

  • A big body TE to patrol the middle of the field becomes far less important in the West Coast offense that Trestman will bring to the Bears. The West Coast offense is designed to bring everyone to the middle on slant and crossing patterns making the checkdown in the flats. This is going to give Forte the roll of the TE and basically the job of sitting down in space on the outside. Expect Forte to have a huge year due to his roll in the passing game. If he is able to make one guy miss which will either the back or safety he's off to the races.

  • In reply to soupbowlorbust:

    agreed but having a pass catching TE in a hybrid West Coast offense would be bad ass.

  • In reply to soupbowlorbust:

    you are assuming our Oline will be good enough to not require Forte to chip.

    I'll wait to see what we do to bolster our Oline first before I presume that.

    Also, I haven't seen Jay checking down that often (Campbell probably checked down more in one game than Jay the entire season), but I mostly blame that on there being no one to check down to (I'm looking at you droppsy Davis and ducking Hester).

  • In reply to soupbowlorbust:

    You are making a few assumptions here.

    1) Trestman will not necessarily be running a true West Coast offense here. And that is a good thing - it doesn't match the strengths of Cutler or the O-line (whatever is left of it).

    2) The West Coast offense, according to Bill Walsh, is designed to use the entire width of the football field. So even if the ball doesn't go more than 20 yards past the line of scrimmage, the defense still has a huge amount of space to cover. A WCO game plan will benefit from anyone who can make a part of the short game more dangerous.

    3) With that said, the Trestman offense in Oakland might be a bit closer to what you described. But then, you are assuming Trestman hasn't changed since his Oakland days.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Right, the entire width of the field is used. But as mentioned the middle of the field is now occupied by the WR's on crossing patterns. You're WR's will run the coverage right into the the 'Big TE' who is askled to find space to sit either in front or overtop the LB's. The RB is now asked to get to the flats as quick as possible which will force the LB's and Corners to 'pick their poison"

    I think Cutler will excel in this offense though he has proven to get impatient at times (the curse of this offense) he has also proven to be a rhythm QB. When he gets hot he's one of the best in the game so if he can stay within the offense and wait for the D to get impatient first he will be deadly.

  • Dude:


    Seachickens making fucking moves.

  • I am telling you guys... been saying it for 2 (or is it 3) years now... Carrol is a clown but the guy has balls the size of watermelons and he fucking gets shit done. Dude is the real deal. Fuck me I kina love him as a coach.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    the downside is I have to fucking hear about it from my buddy the hawks fan ad nauseum.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    aaaaaand just got an email from him. smh.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    you knew that was coming

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That's a great move for them. Give Wilson some additional weapons. It would be nice if Long made it to the Bears though. We could then go after a Center/Guard in the draft and have options for the other needs. You could also go for a Tackle and a Guard and just fix the whole problem in one fell swoop.

  • exactly JW.

    I would LOVE to get cooper or flueker (pipe dream) and then jones or watson in 2. Maybe a high value TE in 4... or maybe emery makes some moves and gets us a 3rd back for a TE? Then we go OT and ILB in FA and get it all done. Bang! Bang!

    All of these guys have us taking eifert in 1: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/mock-drafts

    Olsen 2.0. No thanks, not in the 1st.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Maybe having the Wilson is the key.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Pete Carroll is slime, lower than slime. Fuck that guy.

  • In reply to Shady:

    my god man... did he come over and fuck your sister or something? Sheesh.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I look at it this way. Percy Harvin couldn't get along with Leslie Frazier. By all accounts one of the nicest, most honest, calmest HC's in the league. If Harvin can't get along with Frazier, at some point he and Carroll are going to have huge issues. Harvin's a great talent but a complete and utter head case. The BiQueens were lucky to get the haul of draft picks they did. Can't wait for this to blow up on the SeaSquawks.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Well Carroll is most certainly not one of the "nicest, most honest, calmest HC's in the league." Totally different culture.

    I think a first rounder was too rich, but it is a low first rounder at least.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    The Squawks also threw in a 7th this year and a mid-rounder next year. If Harvin plays up to his talent level and isn't an idiot this is still a good deal for the Squawks. If not, hee-hee-hee.

  • http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/report_bears_rams_most_interested_in_jake_long/13108693

    Bears interested in Long? We'll see how this shakes out. Very interesting. Who would you rather play for? The fucking Rams or the Bears?

  • Whoever offers more money?

  • this is is specifically for that hippie commie bastard doc: http://www.elisabettagregoraci.it/eng/galleria

    Enjoy my man. Bang! Bang!

  • Harvin to SF - not Seattle...

    MB, I hope that makes your buddy look like a jilted dumbass.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    back up man... give me back up!!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    to the seahawks....

  • Sonuvabitch.

    You're right - totally Seattle.

    I hope that makes your buddy look pretty spot on, and me look like a guy who can't read for shit.

    That really makes me rethink my life.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    it does.


  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Niners picked up Boldin. The other prima dona WR in FA this year.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Yeah, NOW I can claim that something was happening with SF... BUt the truth is, I read like 4 articles in a row on PFT and somehow converted "Seattle" to "San Francisco" in my mind.

    I blame SF's abundance of picks and one of the articles mentioning Moss more times than necessary (i.e. more than 0).

    But sure, let's just say I was plugged in to the collective NFL trade market's unconscious. Because that's what sleep deprivation does.


    (I guess I had to end it in a question mark when it did start with "WHY")

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    hey, i forgot to ask, how's the whole baby thing working out?

  • Oh, ya know.. It's cool.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Try tucking the blanket under her arms when you put her down. It will make it harder for her to roll over.

    Alternatively just start her off on her stomach. I know the whole SIDS scare says you must sleep them on their backs, but if she's rolling over anyway what can you really do?

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    My advice about children... don't ask "why" questions. Just. Don't. Do. It.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Oh, and enjoy this shit while it lasts. Before you know it. you'll be shelling out enough for two vacation homes on dubious college degree(s).

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    I don't there are many long-timers here who don't have at least one post they wish they had back.

  • People point to the New England Patriots as the model NFL franchise and why not? They win their division every year and seem to win at least one playoff game each time they get in. But one needs only to look at that team's complete lack of depth at almost every position on defense to understand a basic truth: the Patriots win because they have a top-5 all time coach and a top-5 all time quarterback.

    Sometimes Jeff makes me so fucking mad. The answer is sitting there right in front of him and he misses it.

    Jeff, this is a fun stat for you, from 2004-2008 in Excel:

    Team Rank / Wins / Committed Cash / Cost Per Win
    1.) Patriots 63 512.31M 8.14 M
    2.) Colts 63 532.77 M 8.44 M
    3.) Chargers 54 485.46 M 8.99 M
    4.) Steelers 56 516.69 M 9.22 M
    5.) Broncos 47 485.40 M 10.37 M
    …32.) Raiders 20 513.21 M 25.66 M

    Study that one, please. Study close.

    Then, once the significant of those stats sink in, read this:


    Kraft and Bellicheat play moneyball. We play Jerry-ball. And even though Jerry is gone, Emery is chasing Jake Long, which is a very very Jerry thing to do.

    Kraft isn't interested in being the 2nd smartest owner in Boston, and John Henry is a damn smart guy. Damn smart.

    Kraft, however, has figured out how to perpetually rebuild and ALWAYS make playoff runs. He's quantified excellence. And, we're staring it in the fucking face, and you don't see how? You think it's Brady? Jeff, you have always been far too player focused. It's not the individual, it's the way the balance sheet is constructed.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    bang! bang!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP, the Patriots, Colts and Steelers all had other things in common like a solid offensive scheme and continuity in crucial aspects of those offenses.

    The Bears have had that continuity on the defensive side of the ball and with special teams but not with offense....and the result is a team that could go to the playoffs every year but doesn't....but will with a coherent scheme and some OL improvements.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    This stat doesn't mean anything in the NFL - this metric was created for baseball. The difference in payroll from top to bottom is only about 10-15 mil with the 'Hard Cap' it can't be any different.

    The only variable that can truly effect "Cost Per Win" is Wins. Which are what the guys like Tom Brady get you.

    Jeff is player focused because so is football.

  • In reply to soupbowlorbust:

    Gotta agree. Also, over the last decade Buffalo has been a consistent doormat, Miami not quite as bad but in the ballpark and the Jets who are up and down like a crazy monkey.

    I'm not trying to say NE and Bellicheat aren't good, they are, but stats can say whatever you want them to say.

  • In reply to soupbowlorbust:

    Well stated. Also worth mentioning that once you get your franchise QB in place, everybody looks better. So all of the other FA acquisitions are less urgent; and talent takes a discount to play for a winner.

  • In reply to soupbowlorbust:

    RIght on.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    +1 GP...+1

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I hate this kind of stat. If two teams have similar payrolls, and one wins a bunch of games and the other doesn't, what did you learn? Nothing. Of course the cost per win goes down win you win. If your GM sucks and overpays people, you get a high cost per win. Period. What else are we learning here? Take the Saints, if Drew Brees, who commands a disproportionate share of the money, plays like shit, the number goes up. Fast. I am admittedly no genius, but I see no point in the stat. Help me see it.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    It's just a stupid number, Johnny. That's why it makes no sense to you.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Jeff is right. If Brady or Manning had been a Bear, all the accolades would have been for Lovie and Jerry.

    The Bears just have never had a QB like them. Don't now, and maybe never will. Certainly have had nothing remotely like them for the 47 years I've been watching this fucking team.

  • http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/11/vikings-get-three-picks-for-harvin/

    Now, the Vikings have parlayed Percy Harvin into a first-rounder, a seventh-rounder, and a mid-round selection in 2014, according to Jay Glazer of FOX.

    Really a first round pick..really????

  • http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5310/andy-levitre

    Levitre-Interest? maybe......not sure about Long..I think the boy thinks to much of himself..

    would rather trade up and get OL in the draft.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    E-Train has past love with KC and now Touby's there maybe we can trade

    The whole OL including Davis (Keep L.L.)
    D.J. Mopre
    anyone else????

    Luke Joeckel

    what do you think??????? I know wishful thinking

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    NEVER going to happen. Our entire Oline (including Louis and Davis) would garner maybe a 3rd (at most).

  • tee hee hee.............4E85

  • I'm pretty sure we'd have to include a draft pick too.

  • Boldin to 9ers. Keeping up with Seattle no doubt.

  • Sorry MB


  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Damn the Niner's......building on a powerhouse!

  • Boldin to Frisco for a 6th rounder.....Not good for the NFC.


  • Coach..Simple they were the bridesmaid and now want to be the bride.....

  • fuck fuck fuck!!!!

    Emery!?!?!??!?! WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!?!?!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    We already have Marshall (a faster Boldin) and Alshon (a younger Boldin).

    We need a speedster MB. Wallace would have been perfect if he didn't think he was the 2nd coming of Rice.

  • yep.

  • Marshall is so much better than Boldin that it's not even funny.

    Joe Anderson is going to be our Boldin. I should know....i'm his dad.

  • dude, I love marsh... and I agree he's better, but can you imagine having BOTH!?? He went for a fucking 6th for christ's sake. a 6th... last year we threw away our 6th about a day into camp.

    NB will say we don't need another of the same, we need a burner to play Y... I say we could have had Brandon marshall AND anquan boldin... on the same damn team, with Jay Christopher Cutler as QB... Doesn't anyone remember the 2009 cardinal?

    Deep breaths Lobo.... deeeeep breaths.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I know MB...what about the 6 Mil...what would that do to our cap?

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    oh.... uhhhh... didn't know he had $6M coming. That changes it a bit.

    I've instantly calmed down. No need to scold me NB.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    didn't see your post $. Yeah, I know we need a burner... but a 6th... for THE Anquan Boldin.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    deep breath's...deep breath's.........MB

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Haha MB is never going to forgive Emery for this.

  • In reply to Shady:

    fuck man... a SIXTH!!!!!!

    Summa you guys were haters early on in the season while my mancrush remained steadfast... then we started seeing him make insane catches in every game. And then he finally got his QB a silly contract. He was the ravens BMarsh.

    I am in mourning right now. I'm covering all my mirrors.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Boldin is also asking for about $6M/yr.

    That means NO SOUP FOR YOU (If you watched Seinfeld, you'd laugh).

    Can't spend $6M on a WR AND get an OL and a TE and re-sign Roach, Louis, etc unless we become the Lions and restructure contracts, putting us in future cap-hell.

    If we're going to spend $6M on a WR, sign me up for Welker or Amendola.

  • yep, just saw lobo's post above. Didn't know he's getting $6M. That's way too rich.

  • Dang, I have this terrible feeling in my gut that some team other than the Bears is going to offer Roach a shitpotfull of $$ to play MLB. This will haunt me more the next 24 - 48 hours than anything else Bears related...

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:


  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    Me too!

  • Screw all that. We just need an O line and a fucking pass rush.

  • Flacco's contract just cost him the reason why he got the contract. That. Sucks.

  • I know we don't want to talk about it but E-Train is definitely trying to avoid the fucking land mines of the cap...
    problem with re-adjusting the salaries for Peppy, Tillman, etc...it fucks us in 2014 & 2015 and so on and so forth....


  • Vikes going after...Boldin



  • In reply to OsosFan:

    and that's your first post oso? Hahahahaha!

  • In reply to OsosFan:

    young padawan...

    the CNgnomes have let you comeback....hahahahahahaha

  • In reply to OsosFan:

    I was hoping for say:


  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Trust me, sirs. I have been saying that every day that I wasn't able to log in. I don't know what the hell is going on with this site!!!!!!!!!! I could only read and not partake in yalls epic discussions!!!!!!!

  • Can anyone tell me


    Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame

    When Cutty's face is in the fucking turf because we have NO FUCKING O-LINE!!!!!!! UUUUGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

    THE VEIN ON MY FOREHEAD IS ABOUT TO EXPLODED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Hopefully they are full of shit. If we don't get a decent OLman in the first round, we're doomed. I do think Trestman and Cromer are going to make the OL better just by scheme/coaching. Of course, I said that same thing last year. For some reason I was totally sucked in by Tice. In hindsight that's more than a little embarrassing. Oh well.

  • what the... hold on to your panties Willie: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/baltimore-ravens-trade-anquan-boldin-to-san-francisco-49ers-for-draft-pick-031113


  • Hello everyone, I hope JT Thomas finally steps up and becomes a solid LB thus year plus, the fact the Emery called him out should motivate him to become better. Also, why is everyone dismissing E-Rod as a viable TE and possible sleeper threat? In addition, Joe Anderson should do his thing this year too, let's be hopefully about some of our guys OL and LB and CB should be priorities for the draft and FA, I believe.

  • In reply to OsosFan:

    E-Rod is a slot back and a wing back. He's too small to be an effective run blocking TE, he's not a particularly big target so he's not going to make the back of the endzone tough catch and he's not tough enough to stand the wear at FB.

    His strength is his speed. And we haven't used that correctly.

    I made a joke after the draft that Emery's new name is Herbie the Dentist, because the guy loves the island of broken toys. Chicken Dinner and ERod are both tweeners, guys you put into a team to confound defenses, but in reality we're not that team - we need building blocks.

    Frustrating, and if we get another tweener this draft I will be pissed with Emery. This draft he cannot blow if he wants a club that can contend in 1-2 years (I say this is a re-tool year).

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I should say Dinner is there to confound OFFENSES, and Erod D. Sorry.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm hoping that LDL/Ticey..the name's we do not name....was the pusher on the idea that our O-Line was "All Set" a phrase from the other one we do not name...gave E-Train false information. I think a year under his belt and OTA's, pre-season a whole season of last year opened his eyes...

    "I won't get fooled again"

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    "Unleash" not "Unless"...ugh......@#!#$$!@#!@$#!!!! I'm going to lay down now.....the vein on the forehead say's it is time

  • In reply to gpldan:

    you can still contend in a re-tool year. We were 2 or 3 catches from being 11-5 or 12-4 and being in the playoffs. The team is going to contend this year again. I agree that this draft is fucking crucial. We need some solid young players playing for shitty first contracts yet contributing.

  • Or six or eight stupid plays by Cutler, for that matter. It's a fucking team game.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    It's true. If only Cutler didn't drop those 6-7 touchdowns that Cutler threw, we'd be having very different discussions this off season.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    You can say whatever you want about tweeners and what not, I only give a shit about wins. Whatever it takes.

  • I'm going to advocate something that is going to be wildly unpopular here:

    Cut Pep

    Here's how it SEEMS to me:

    Pep has hit his Guarantee floor. He has made $42M from the Bears, thanks to a $12M misc hit in 2010. Wow. That hurt, but the pain is over, accrued and done.

    You can PUSH the dead cap hit of $9M out one year, and reclaim $16M to this year's cap if you waive him outright. You still have to take that dead hit in the next two years, but perhaps you could split it.

    Do I have that incorrect? Cause it seems like I don't.

    Everything here speculates how to keep him THIS year:

    I say: don't. Time to go.

    Write down the dead hit half this year, have next, that's $4.5M against the cap and you get $13M back in the till. Don't convert it to bonus money, there can be no hard feelings because he's made $42M between 2010-now, so use the money on other players. To me, that's a lot of coin per sack, and while he has played hard at times, his plantar issues and need to take series out I think he's worn out.

    Also, he should replace Andre 3000 in the Jimi Hendrix story, filming now, so he's needed elsewhere more urgently.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    not as unpopular as you think GP...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    sorry GP, cutting Pep is retarded.

  • JA...I know it sounds out there but today's NFL is about the Cap and $$$$$$$

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    No, today's NFL is about WINNING FOOTBALL GAMES. Our defense drops to middle of the league (at best) without Peppers.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    We can spread out Pepp's cap hit over the years, but my, it's no chump change.

    If we do go that route, I would definitely TRADE him. He's worth at least a 1st, even if a later one. Maybe even the Cowboy's at like #17.

    We'll have to use that 1st on a DE, and honestly there should be some solid ones available. Maybe even Ansah if teams are scared off by his "one year wonder" label.

    We'd also HAVE to get Long and a 2nd tier TE like Davis.

    No use in downgrading our D if it's not to improve our O dramatically.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The biggest reason I would say we don't cut him - he is worth $16mill this year. Pressure from the front 4 will be key, yeah? Almost every team pays one or two guys crazy salaries every year, usually the important guys. I don't see anyone next year (for the bears) having an impact on opposing teams next year like Pep. Maybe Brandon or Jay, or hopefully Melton, but Pep is almost a sure thing. I'd rather give Pep $16 than Flakeo $20.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    The pressure will theoretically come from the rotation of Woot, Shea, Izzy, Melt, and Okoye (?) plus whatever DE we draft to replace Pepp.

    All those guys are productive, but not dominant like Pepp. They also all have question marks.

    It'd be a calculated gamble, or maybe like robbing Peter to pay Paul.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    You cut Pep and you're officially rebuilding. Doesn't make sense considering they franchised Melton. I also believe losing Peppers wouldn't be worth the cap space you'd save by doing so. You lose Pep and the whole thing goes to shit.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Not necessarily Shady. It's all about "value" and "impact." Not one single player can replace the impact of Peppers, but Izzy and Woot combined racked up 7.5 + 7 = 14.5 sacks compared to Pepp's 11.5.

    Woot and Izzy combined might account for $5M to Pepp's $16M.

    The way I see it is if we do trade/cut Pepp, we'd have to feel comfortable that Woot can get close to 10 sacks (while being stout against the run) and that Shea can replace Woot's 7 sacks. Possible? Maybe. But it's definitely a gamble.

  • Exhibit A. The Broncos (who are totally in WIN NOW mode).

    "Broncos RE Elvis Dumervil has requested his release after the sides got "no closer" to a resolution in their contract impasse on Monday.
    "We're at an impasse," Dumervil's agent confirmed. "(Elvis) loves the Broncos. ... But if we can't reach common ground and you know as an organization that you're going to release him, then we'd like for them to release him by (Tuesday) and not wait another four days." The "another four days" is in reference to Dumervil's $12 million salary becoming fully guaranteed on Saturday. The Broncos are insisting on a pay-cut, while Dumervil is only willing to restructure. He's likely played his final down in Denver."

  • That's beacuse the Donkeys are in cap space hell right now, they can't afford to keep him. If they could, they would, but they can't so they won't. Not to mention Von Miller is the man on that D, not Elvis. I get what you're saying but the Bears and Broncos are in 2 very different situations.

  • In reply to Shady:

    We're not far off cap wise. By all accounts, right now, the Bears have approx $4M. That's without re-signing Louis, Roach, Izzy, Lach...and without signing the draft class which will cost $4M.

    In fact, I believe the Broncs have MORE money than us.

    Broncs are at $111, 400,000
    Bears at $119,000,000


    I'm not saying we SHOULD cut/trade Pepp, but it should definitely be an option.

  • An option for what? Rebuilding? Are you ready to rebuild? What's your point here? Or are you just playing devils advocate? You're getting me Waffle iron mad here bro. outside of cutting Cutler, cutting Peppers could be THE most retarded move of the offseason.

  • In reply to Shady:

    An option to free up cap space and get a real LT like Long and a TE like Davis while being able to resign our priortiy FAs like Roach, Izzy, Louis and even Lach.

  • In reply to Shady:

    You know as well as I do those objectives can be reached without releasing Julius Peppers.

  • I'm sorry but you don't rebuild a team that easily could have gone 12-4 last year.

    Stop it before i hit myself with a champagne bottle and put myself in a coma until training campl.

  • Did you consider he might want that? :-)

  • Well, it's always an option...it just happens to be a dumb option right now.

  • You really think Izzy and Woot get 14.5 sacks without Peppers on the other side? C'mon man.

  • In reply to Shady:

    That's the gamble. It really depends on Woot's progress.

    No one a year ago thought Jennings was going to become a PB CB. Hell, he was benched late in the season.

    Woot has shown a lot of descriptiveness, but his health still looms in the back of my mind. Then again, it's not as if plantar fasciitis gets better with age.

  • * disruptivenes

  • * disruptiveness

  • Peppers game is not all sacks. Our defense without Peppers is like my penis after a bottle of whiskey....it works, kind of and not as impressively and predictably.

    He has been worth every penny.

  • The Bears defense without Peppers drops immediately to the bottom half of the league. He was the best free agent the Bears ever got. And better than anyone they've ever traded for too.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Jesus Dave, your contempt for cutler is palpable.

  • That is the best analogy ever!

  • Agreed.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Butch said it above and he's right. You don't cut Pep without making some other big FA signing to bolster the offense. Example would be cutting Pepp and using the extra $13 million to bring in Jake Long, Izzy and Martellus Bennett.

    We could try trading him, but that is a rich contract for another team to take on. Its likely that any partner would be looking to Pep to restructure, and at that point he's better off restructuring with us.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Way too tall to play Jimi

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Yeah, Dave, you tell HIM that.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I don't think we would have franchised Melty if we planned on cutting pep.

  • I read that Pep's cap hit becomes less every year. He could play this year and maybe be cut the.next if there are still cap difficulties, plus, does the cap get a decent raise in like, 2015 or something? Peppers is my fav player so I'm a little biases but I believe he should play out his remaining years as the dominantbast he is as a Chicago Bear! He is prob a little more important for the D than Lach at the moment, izzy and Shea AMD Melton prob would have had those sack totals without the constant pressure from Pep, and he plays with that plantar injury every year, right? So, even though we would save about 7 mill in cap, I believe 9 would go to him AMD wed have to bet our hopes on an unproven rookie or a not as beastly as peppers DE.# 90 FOR LIFE!

  • In reply to OsosFan:

    Pep's cap hit gets worse every year he stays on the team. I haven't crunched the numbers, but I think you are referring to the dead cap space we would take on if we cut him. This is because his guaranteed money (paid to him the year he signed) is pro-rated over the remainder of his contract, but if he is cut we have to pay for all of that signing bonus right away (or sometimes in 2 years). So whatever of the signing bonus we eat this year, reduces the dead cap space if we cut him in 2014.

    But the way I see it (and possibly Emery too) is that Pep reach a year when he will not get the kind of money the Bears are paying him if he hits the open market. When that time comes, he will be better off taking a pay cut than going to free agency and possibly getting even less.

    That all can happen without bad blood incidentally. These monster deals like what Pep signed are usually not meant to be played to conclusion. I saw a stat recently that of all the $100 million contracts signed, the most anyone has earned so far is around $55 million (and that might have been Pep).

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Interesting point on playing them out, NBiT.

  • Here's my $.02. pep, WHEN HEALTHY, is one of the most disruptive forces in the NFL. The dude is amazing. Just one of those once-in-a-while talents. If we can we should keep him and cut a bunch of the other accumulated sheite that lovie and JA stockpiled.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    sadl, I'm looking at you devin.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I concur. I already layed out my plan on what I think the Bears should do in 2013, and it includes a lot of fat-trimming, but not Pepp (though a favorable restructure would be nice).

    However, if Cliff Stein crunches the numbers and concludes that Pepp's contract is too onerous and decides to amiable trade him away, then I could see that, though I wouldn't want it.

    The decision could come from Emery too. He already has signaled a fundamental shift to offense, and Pepp was definitely a Lovie/Angelo guy.

    Who knows. All kinds of crazy shit is going happen in the next 24 hours. The madness has already commenced.

  • I'm sorry, but I am squarely in the cut Pep camp.

    $13M is a lot of camp room. Replace him with Vanden Bosch:


    and have $12M left.

    12 MILLION dollahs.

    You can do alot with that. I'm sorry, I know you guys are die hard to the D side of the ball, but I want to blow this team up - including things like letting Peppers and Tillman AND Pep go, and use the cash to sign all the picks early and go get Long.

    I just don't get sentimental about the players.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I can understand your cold business like approach, even if you say you don't get sentimental... though I know you do. Personally I'm not ready to blow it up and start from scratch, this is a "what have you done for me lately" league. I'm a Cubs fan for heaven sake, don't tell me to fucking be patient. I want cake now!

    Peppers can and will restructure, especially when it comes time to re-sign Brian Urlacher.

    Vanden crotch can go blow himself.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'd accept if we let Pep go, but KVB is past it. The only thing he brings to the table is those stupid fucking red contacts he wears during games. He couldn't get the job done with Suh and Fairley blowing up the middle, so what is he going to do with Melton and Flatbread?

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    I will admit that in close ups, the dude had the 'roid acne bad down his arms. I think there is a cream for that.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The only way I'd ever support cutting peppers is if you use it to get Jadeveon Clowney.. Other than that, we're rebuilding.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    If this comment were a sexual act, it would be a handjob.

    Replace Peppers with Vanden Scrote? pffff.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Cut Peanut? Surely you gest.

  • Jebus...The Vikes are gonna be set in the draft. And if they end up signing Jennings in FA, wow.

    Updating previous items, the Vikings have acquired the 25th overall pick, a 2013 seventh-rounder, and a middle-round pick in 2014 in the Percy Harvin trade.
    Jeff Ireland wishes he could trade as well as Rick Spielman; the Dolphins traded Brandon Marshall last offseason for two third-rounders, one of which Ireland blew on obvious TE bust Michael Egnew. The Vikings now have four picks in the top 83 this year: Nos. 23, 25, 52, and 83. It's also conceivable that Spielman has already struck an under-the-table deal with a free agent like Greg Jennings.

    Vikes are gonna be major players in the upcoming draft.

    On a side note, Emery trade-raped the Fins.

  • If I was the Vikes I would give up one of those 1st rounders that they have to get Cruz AND sign Jennings and or Wallace.

    Imagine having to deal with the prospect of Peterson, a burner like Wallace hauling ass down the field and Curz working the slants, form which he is a danger to take it to the house.

  • yeah, but their quarterback is a fucking chaunce.

  • The Vikes are making an interesting play here. And AP is the victim.

    They figure they can sell tickets as long as AP is AP. So they can stockpile draft picks and build a monster O-line (like San Fran did). They figure in 3-4 years, they'll have the foundation for a monster. But by then AP will be on the back end of his career and possibly a cap casualty.

    I feel for the guy. Barry Sanders part 2.

  • If Davis had caught only half of his drops what a difference it would have made...I mean what exactly or who exactly did we get for getting rid of Olsen anyways.

  • In reply to shonbear:

    Look who it is! What's up shon?

    We ended up getting a 3rd from Carolina for Olsen, paired it with our 3rd and traded for Marshall.

    I agree with MB it would be a mistake to draft a TE at 20. Have to go OL, WR, DE or DB.

  • In reply to Shady:

    OL or OL... ooooooor, OL.

    oh and get your ass online, I'm having SMAW-in-your-face withdrawls

  • In reply to Shady:

    yea, I've been on hiatus. I read every post, just the Bears have frustrated me for a couple years so I kept my blog mouth shut.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Oh yea and if it was for BM then it was worth it, (BM... lol)

  • Out of respect for Doc and for football, I'd like to discuss the cost of going to see an NFL team play. I'm curious as I'd like to compare it to football over here in the UK, and this article is the reason why.


    A quote from the article: "Liverpool currently has the ninth most expensive season tickets in the Premier League, with Arsenal season tickets selling at £1,955."

    Now for some outside information for non-soccer folks, that gets you a seat to the clubs 19 home games a season in the league and the first 7 relevant cup matches in the season (for arsenal that is, unsure for other clubs but would assume its the same. Source: http://www.arsenal.com/membership/seasonticketterms).

    Now, Arsenal regularly compete in 3 cup competitions. The League Cup (6 matches to win inc final), FA cup (6 matches to win inc final) and the Champs League (13-15 matches to win, depending on previous season finishing spot).

    So you would get the 19 home games, maybe 3 league or fa cup games, and 3 or 4 champions league games (the big ones). Thats if the club allow the champions league game to count as part of the 7 games as it is the big money tournament.

    So if Arsenal were to make the final of each competition, you would still have to pay for 19 away games in the league (plus travel), up to 12 league/fa cup games (draw for each round could mean that Arsenal play away from home everytime and the final is always on a neutral ground.) and possibly 15 champions league matches (half of which would be abroad in other countries).

    So on top of you £1955, you are also paying at least £40 a ticket for every other game, plus flights/fuel money/hotels/food/drinks etc. Easily over £3000 by the end of it all.

    From my initial article you can see the outrage by some fans at these prices. I personally might go and see Scotland play once a year (but even that's a rickety proposition as last time I saw them we got cheated). I don't see my local teams as even teams in the lower divisions charge upwards of £20 a game.

    Now, my question is, how much would you pay to follow the Bears for a season, if they were to make the Superbowl? I expect it to be more for a few reasons....because of how insane it is trying to get Superbowl tickets and because there is only 32 teams for a nation with a much larger population than in the UK vying for tickets, so prices can be higher at the big market teams like the Bears, as no one wants to pay to watch the Jaguars.

    How much would you pay? How much do you think you should pay? Any questions about other costs over here?

    Sorry for the long winded post.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:


  • You guys want a TE in the second round? Well here he is motherfuckers! :


  • A 2nd? No way Pitta is worth a 2nd. Everyone is riding the Joe Flacco gravy train coattails.

    Fuck if it happened to Flacco it can certainly happen to Cutler. He just needs to state the obvious. He feels he is an elite QB that should be compared amongst the best in the league.

  • In reply to Shady:

    That fucking Flacco deal is going to be a giant motherfucking albatross dragging the ravens into the sea.
    yeah, that's right bitches - suck on that metaphor.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Mark Sanchez and Joe Flacco celebrate their team crippling contracts in the manner that which nature intended.


  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    I think this is the better visual for that storyline DY: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjcJUZm39Ug

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Really, is this what it's come to? smh

  • In reply to Shady:


    Now stop hiding and take my SMAW... take it all!

  • In reply to Shady:

    That and win a Super Bowl

  • No, I want Barrett Jones.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I've been on that bandwagon since the day I read about him. I'd use a first on him. Three position All-American and one smart cookie.

    Brains matter in the NFL. They really do.

  • Our choices are Forte or..... Ron RIvera????

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Barry is going down.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    carson palmer and AP was a difficult one.

  • I kinda like Timberlake: http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t2#/video/bestoftv/2013/03/10/nr-weekend-snl-tribute-to-chavez.cnn

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I know it's not X-mas, but how can we gloss over this Timberlake holiday classic...


  • Did you see this?


    Ackroyd.... man....

  • In reply to gpldan:

    my GOD he's fat!

    I never got dick in a box. just not funny (to me)

  • In reply to gpldan:

    No, I haven't seen that. IF they got those two Night at the Roxbury guys, it would complete the trifecta.

    Also, does Steve Martin age?

    Ackroyd on the other hand...

  • seriously.

    did you know that martin is a world-class banjo player? Awesome.

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    haha...yeah, I heard him play, but I didn't know he was a world-class banjo-er. That's funny.

    I was walking through the Belagio in Vegas on one of my ventures, and sure enough I turn my head and see "The Steve Martin Art Collection". He's funny and classy.

    "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels" still has one of my fav scenes of all time...


  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3Uxk3Ml1w4

  • In reply to gpldan:

    so so accurate

  • He should dump the musical career an become a regular on SNL.

  • The worst thing about this story is that it is so abominably atypical, in that the truth is so seldom revealed in this way.


    "Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us." - Golda Meir

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Didn't you just say (above, 5min ago) that such topics were more entertaining than "modified sweat glands"? How so?

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    What's easier to unload, a dumpster full of dead babies or a dumpster full of bowling balls? Dead babies, because with dead babies, you can use a pitchfork. Now that's entertainment.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:


  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I remember that! Gawd, there were an entire series of the dead baby jokes, but thankfully I remember none of them.

  • here you go johnny: http://www.southafrica.net/sat/content/en/us/best-of-south-africa/top-10-experiences/

    See #5 down there?

  • I wished for a number one receiver last year for my birthday and it was answered..

    What should I wish for this year?

  • OL lad, OL!!!!!!!!!

  • Left Tackle for under $9M who rhymes with "Schlong".

  • not in this camp. too expensive and too risky. Levitre

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    So you're OK with Webb Nation at LT again?


    a 2nd round rookie project protecting Cutler's blind-side?

    See, that's what I'm factoring in, and why the gamble is worth it (needless to say, people only take huge gambles when desperate for immediate results).

    I would just offer Long a contract that can be voided with little cap penalty in two years and incentive laden.

    If Long really wants to be on a contender and bet on himself, he'd sign up for that.

    If he strictly goes for the mula on a Ram-ish team, then that tells me he really doesn't believe in himself and just wants to sucker a team.

  • A really, really good draft. No wasted picks. Huge finds in the latter rounds. World peace.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I always say a prayer and drink to world peace

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Obviously you're not drinking enough.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:


  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:


  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:


  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    from groundhog day gents.



  • How about a Lombardi? All the rest would merely be a means to that end.

  • interesting: http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/11/opinion/ghitis-other-views/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I want to write a follow-up for Chicagoans:

    "Don't be like TED Washington, eat a fucking salad once in a while."

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I like how the comments quickly devolve into exactly what the article was arguing against.

    The article does use false equivalency though. Graduations of wrongs (echo-chambers) exist.

    Mortenson reporting that Farvre will retire is wrong.

    The Bush admin reporting that Iraq possesses WMDs is wronger.

    Both are guilty of misinformation. One is just a smidgen worse.

  • If I had to guess a player that Phil Emery might be looking to sign, given the cap space and everything, I would say it's TE Fred Davis.

  • He and BMarsh can compare nightclub lawsuits.

  • My sources are telling me Jake Long is signing with Chicago today.

    And by sources I mean my crystal balls.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Which Jenny McCarthy likes to cradle. Now that she has some time on her hands. Her cold cold witch hands.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yes, McCarthy has "intimate knowledge" of the situation.

  • All this McCarthy talk means I need an Alyssa Miller moment:


    Yes. Better.

  • The Yags released a ton of guys on defense, probably because they were awful, but I have a feeling 1 or 2 might end up working under Mel Tucker again in Chicago this season.

  • http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-chicago-bears-hot-after-loadholt-20130312,0,1417416.story

    Phil Loadholt anyone? Not a LT but a total asskicker and for half the price of Long. Played LT in college and now is RT for Vikes.

    Read the part about Angelo not drafting him a month after getting Cutler. It's vintage Jerry. At least we got Jarron Gilbert out of the deal.

  • I remember following him coming out of Oklahoma in 2009. He's a solid RT who has been a part of some pretty damn good offenses, but doesn't exactly fit with what the Bears need. As the article mentions, this could be a bit of subterfuge on the Bears part, driving up the price of the Vikings, but if he joins the team I wouldn't complain. Also interesting he has the same agent as the Bears' would-be RT Gabe Carimi.

  • Percy "Can't go today, I have a migrane" Harvin


    a #1 and a #7 this year and a #3 next year ?????

    I say taking the draft picks is a no-brainer.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Carroll loves him some Golden Taint... I mean Tate. Tate. Sorry.

    Harvin, Tate, he likes guys with wheels who get separation. Harvin was a go-to guy for awhile, and he has Hester's speed combined with Bennett's ability to go to the middle and make the catch. He's valuable. I don't think he's #1 valuable, but worth trading for.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Hesters speed and Bennet's ability to catch in traffic is a solid explanation of his game. If he wasn't such as whiny biznatch he'd be worthwhile.

    Talkin shit about Ponder all day long.....

  • On the other hand, a #6 for stud slot-receiver IS how to use picks wisely.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    AP gets all Kanye West wif it:


    No offense, draft choices are nice, but Harvin? He's the best of ALL TIME! ALL TIME!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    eggroll, wish I had a breeze runnin down my leg. Siiiiingraaaay double-sided scoobie snack!

    ...an orange peanut... fo meee!?

  • Pete Caroll playing big balls poker with Harbaugh.

    "I see your Anquan Boldin and go all in.... Harvin for the stack."

  • via Jeff's twitter...

    Why does NFL Network have Mike Tannenbaum talking about personnel? That's like having Britney Spears talk about method acting.

    hahah...that's what I thought. That knucklehead with a straight face suggested the Chiefs could draft Warmack as #1 overall because he was the best player coming out of the draft and that they really don't need an OT with Albert and Winston (when he was still on the team).

    Tannenbaum is that guy who drafts a kicker in the 3rd round of fantasy football...

  • I drafted Janikowski in the 3rd round on DBB league, so I guess I'm that guy.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The Polish Canon!

    Well, if you were getting paid millions to be an expert on an FF show, then I'd have to give you two thumbs down.

    Then again, I did draft Rivers thinking he couldn't possibly suck as much as the previous year.

    I was very very wrong.

  • Did you the auction league? Who was it that was relentless last year with the Auction League?

    I bid the Bald Rapist up to many catcalls.

    The fuckwad is chronically probable, but good for at least 3-4 15 point blasts.

  • In reply to gpldan:


    Yeah, that was me.. with some help from DYL.

    I took a hot one on my Stafford prognostication in that league.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yeah, you can say I was in the auction league.


    Suck it!!! bwhahaha

    Actually, Rivers wasn't too shabby at the start, but then his entire Oline got hurt, and he became, well, Cutler-ish. Luckily I was able to trade for Peyton for a packaged deal.

    Alf and Julio Jones with occasional cameos from CJ2K carried me the rest of the way.

  • according to Shefter, every FA not named Wallace is going to receive LESS than $9M/yr, and they're going to be shocked at the buyer's market.

    2013 cap less than 2009 cap (nice job Union).

  • FA factoid of the day.

    Reggie White signed with the Pack for 4 years/$17M.

    20 years later...

    Pepp. ONE year/$16M

  • Weird, that happened to gas prices too.

  • "There has been speculation that Long is looking to make an average of $11-$12 million a year, but it would be hard to imagine the Bears paying that.

    Long was considered one of the truly elite left tackles earlier in his career, but his play suffered in the last two seasons, when he was sidelined with injuries. According to Pro Football Focus, Long was ranked 47th out of 75 tackles last season. In 2011, he was 21st but second in 2010 and second in 2009.

    Long, though, is just 27 years old.

    If Long is too expensive, there are several other notable options. Free-agent tackles include Sebastian Vollmer, Andre Smith, Jermon Bushrod, Phil Loadholt, Sam Baker, Eric Winston and Bryant McKinnie. It's believed the Bears have expressed an interest in Bushrod and Loadholt, who would presumably be cheaper than Long.

    Three were taken off the market: Branden Albert (franchised by the Kansas City Chiefs), Ryan Clady (franchised by the Denver Broncos) and Will Beatty (re-signed with New York Giants). "


  • Needless to say, no way I want Long for $11M and up.

    So the real question becomes: which Long will a team be purchasing?

    2nd question one must consider: how much worse are Webb, Bushrod, Baker, etc?

    The guy I really wanted was Beatty, but the G-men are smart, like moi.

  • I'll take both, and not just because they have awesome names. Phil Bushload and Jermon Rodholdt. Gives the Bears much needed flexibility in the draft.

  • I hate this fucking website. I have to close my browser in order to get the posting window. brutal.

    you're welcome: http://www.automatic.com/

  • If we're going to go OG, Brandon Moore who I think was rated the 2nd best OG in the league in 2012 might be a much more economical option. Only reason he's even available is because the Jets are totally incompetent.

    He's 32, though. But if we're truly in win-now mode, he'd definitely be an option.

    Getting him in FA would also not eliminate most Olinemen from our boards.

    Fluker and all other OTs would obviously still be options, as well as Cooper and Barrett Jones who can play C.

  • Teams must get under and STAY under the salary cap by 3 p.m. CST today.

  • Hilarious: http://storify.com/JimmyTraina/reaction-to-this-question-from-nyjets?utm_source=extramustard.si.com&awesm=sfy.co_s2vs&utm_campaign=&utm_medium=sfy.co-twitter&utm_content=storify-pingback

    Fucking jets.

    and this: http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/freeagency/index

  • bang bang!


  • In reply to MB30SD:



  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ok, that own3d.

  • Still, no cap room moves?!....We better get ready for the Bears to sign some piss poor players, if any at all.

  • In reply to 505 Bears!!:

    The cap room moves only make sense if we sign another player. I think it is very likely that the Bears have two or three moves ready to go if the guys they want are available. If not, they'd prefer to use the space this year rather than next.

  • Phil Loadholt for $5+...?! That's the report out there...Is he worth that much money?!

  • In reply to 505 Bears!!:


    Drop Pep and we can have Loadholt and Long.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    In the words of the immortal Stacy King... "Stop it!"

  • In reply to Shady:


  • anything from the scrap heap?


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Frostee Rucker on the cheap? Weren't we trying to get Winston last year? How about that Vazquez kid from SD?

  • Gossip rags say Harvin ragged incessant on Ponder, using the B word for him that is only 4 letters. Greased those skids.

    Vikes load up on picks. They probably still owe the Cowboys picks for Herschel Walker.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Okay, I'll bite. B word with 4 letters is "baby?"

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Gotta be bust.

  • In reply to Shady:


  • In reply to gpldan:

    I believe it was "bitch" using the now-antiquated Spanish variant of "ch" as one letter.

    Seriously. Two letters = one letter.

    Mind blown?

  • http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/54020/bears-trying-to-steal-phil-loadholt

  • http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/54014/draftwatch-mel-kiper-mock-3-0

    Not that ANYTHING this douche says actually happens, but I hate the thought of the packers getting that beast lacey. yucky.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You can go through Kiper's 2012 mock as of April 24th last year, here:


    After pick 5, it goes pretty much to hell.

    As it will this year.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    They pay that fool and his counterpart a shit ton of money for worthless info. Where do I sign up?!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    yeah, I bet he was as pissed with emery/lovie as we all were last year.

    Saw hims on the tv last night... his hair is ridiculous. He looks like one of the guys from space balls: http://media.theiapolis.com/b000000/d4/hLC/i1VJ5/k4/l1W4B/s6/t3/wSG/y04/spaceballs.jpg?cdn=1363115371

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Power of the Schwartz!!

  • In reply to 505 Bears!!:

    love that movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=larzCyTk59I

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I thought the oldest trick in the book was getting Catfished?!

  • Martellus Bennett tweating he wants to be a Bear...

  • In reply to 505 Bears!!:

    This I like.

    You're slacking Artoo!!!

  • DeAngelo Hall vs BMarshall twice a year? Sign me up!!

  • In reply to 505 Bears!!:

    Nah, false crap..I just got catfished.

  • he is a bear according to Jeff!

    Welcome The Black Unicorn!!!!


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Bennett to Bears?

    Is that official?

    If it is - yaaaahhoooo!!!

    (when Han blew up the Death Star)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm a big fan of that move - Bennett can actually catch the ball, unlike our current stable of TEs.

  • Saved some money not getting Cook...what OL does that translate too?

  • I also hope the Titans blow their was on Levitre so that we can get the cheaper better option of Moore or Valasquez.

    At the very least, it will make them more likely to pass over Cooper and Warmack in the draft.

  • Bennett was the 5th best overall TE last season, according to PFF, 3rd best pass blocker and 13th run blocker, 11th pass catcher. 26 y/o

  • In reply to Shady:

    He's always been very talented, but much like Cook, just never got off the ground in Dallas (cause Romo's best bud Witten perhaps), and seemed to finally get his shit together at NY.

    I just hope Bennett keeps his head on straight and continues what he did at NY.

    We can now adress TE much later in the draft, or skip it altogether if we give A-rod a crack.

  • Kellen Davis has been given his walking papers....which he immediately dropped...HAHA

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  • New Thread!!!

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