Re-Signing Urlacher Not Sentimental But Essential

Re-Signing Urlacher Not Sentimental But Essential

You won't find many Bears writers or bloggers around who've been as critical of Brian Urlacher. While celebrating his remarkable, sideline-to-sideline athletic ability and impeccable huddle command I have also questioned his ability to shed blocks since Ted Washington and Ketih Traylor were exiled by a defensive regime change and wondered publicly if Urlacher possessed the intimidation factor that has defined the great middle linebackers in Chicago and across the NFL. (I also routinely questioned Urlacher's Hall of Fame credentials for years - a position on which I've since reluctantly reversed course.)

This off-season Phil Emery and the Bears hierarchy need Brian Urlacher as much as he needs them. Yes, the captain is suffering from chronic knee issues that are more than likely never going to improve. And yes, even a healthy 54 might only be a shadow of the player who dominated the league in 2005-2006. But Urlacher understands his physical liabilities will prohibit him from breaking the bank on the final contract of his professional career and thus the risks - should one choose to use that word - to the Bears organization will be minimal.

The rewards? Potentially great.

The Bears offense - designed by Marc Trestman and blocked byAaron Kromer - will be reworked and re-imagined. The system  and scheme will change. The terminology will change. The players will change. Nothing that took place on the field in 2012, other than the success of Cutler-to-Marshall, will play any role in what takes place on the field in 2013.

The Bears defense, barring surprises over the next few months, may not have a single new starter. Think about it for a moment. The secondary - Tillman, Jennings, Wright & Conte - will be there. The defensive ends will be Peppers and a combination of Wootton, McClellin and maybe a new face or two should Idonije head elsewhere. Henry Melton will be back, either on the franchise tag or with far, far, far heavier pockets. Might Emery bring in a new starter in free agency? Doubtful. Might a draft pick break into the starting lineup? It's possible. But odds are we know the names of the eleven men who'll take the field on defense the first Sunday after Labor Day. The difference. The man who has directed that defense since 2004, Lovie Smith, is gone. Mel Tucker has arrived.

And Mel Tucker needs Brian Urlacher.

The new defensive coordinator needs a defensive signal-caller in the huddle who already has the respect of the ten men around him. He needs a player with Urlacher's intelligence to help translate his own concepts into familiar language/terminology. And perhaps less discussed is the notion that Tucker will face far less scrutiny from the fans and media with Urlacher patrolling the middle of the field. Until #54 retires this will continue to be his defense.

But don't believe it's a one-sided relationship. While Tucker is keeping the Bears in a 4-3 alignment, he is not staunchly sticking with the Tampa-2 concepts. This means that Urlacher's physical requirements each and every Sunday could be significantly less. (No longer might he be needed to cover the deep middle of the field on surefire passing downs.) The less pressure put on Urlacher's knees in 2013, the more likely there will be a 2014 for the superstar. As strange as it is to admit there might be less physical demand on Urlacher in Chicago than many other destinations across the league.

A deal should and will get done in the coming weeks. It is the best thing for Brian Urlacher and the best thing for the Chicago Bears. It will not only make the sixty-one thousand plus of Soldier Field happy come September, it will make the fifty-three on the field more formidable.

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  • Urlacher is God. Next.

  • QM thought for the day.

    Of all light that shines on water, 20% of it will be reflected, for argument's sake. Suppose only five photons are fired at the water. One of the photons, by pure chance, will be selected to reflect off the water, and the other four photons all somehow understand this, and they continue their journeys. Light - just being a certain range of wavelengths of EM energy - is radio waves at another wavelength .... and up the other end it's viewed as infra red, UV, X-Rays, Gamma rays .. .depending on how you look at it. Light is energy. Energy is mass. We are mass ... in other words .... everything in the universe is governed by pure chance. Fate, destiny, "...Everything happens for a reason ..." ... all bullshit. As Queens native Richard Feynman said to anyone who didn't like QM, "Go find another universe."

    We return you to your normal programming.

  • Rather Huntin' like, Irish. Well played.

  • I was waiting for this column Jeff, glad you finally posted it. While I agree the Bears need to work out a deal with Brian, I don't believe Henry Melton is a certainty to come back at all.

    You mentioned Mel Tucker is keeping the 4-3, but not necessarily run a Tampa-2. If that's the case, pouring more precious cap space into the D-Line by signing 3-tech Melton is not a must. Personally, I'd rather see that money allocated to the offensive line and perhaps draft a large bodied DT who, like Traylor and Washington, can keep O-Lineman off of Urlacher so he can extend his career another year or two.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Not a bad idea, Shady. But only if it' s in the form of a sign and trade. I'd hate to lose a pro bowler in his prime for nothing.

  • Pro bowl doesn't mean what it used to, but I agree losing Melton would hurt. But, depending on how much he gets paid, wouldn't the Bears get a compensatory draft pick for losing him?

  • In reply to Shady:

    Not this season, I don't think. My thoughts are that his trade value might be the highest it's going to be. If we could say, trade him for say, Jake long + a draft pick, I could live with his departure. But for a compensatory pick for some college player who's NFL abilities aren't yet known, that's too big of a gamble with the small window this team now has.

  • Trade him for Jake Long and a draft pick? I see you've found a new supply of ganj! Mmmm.

    If the Bears are going to sign/franchise him, I doubt they'd look to trade him. And whoever signs Long this offseason probably won't be looking to trade him either.

  • I'm leaning more towards trading Melton too. He makes sense for the Cowboys, but they're too broke to afford him.

    A real option would be the Fisher Rams. They have two 1st rounders (#16 and #22), if we could trade Melton for say #22 and a 5th, while saving roughly $8M per year in cap space, I'd be all for it.

    I know a disruptive 3-tech is hard to get, but Woot, Akoye, Izzy and a few others (Perhaps a drafted DT) can all step in and pick up the slack.

    With that 8M we can probably get an OT and TE in FA, so it'd help out our draft tremendously. We can then focus on OG, DT, ILB, WR, CB.

    For instance, we can probably get DT Richardson, OG Warmack and ILB Minter with our our two 1sts and 2nd.

    Plus be able to afford LT Albert and TE Keller (thanks to the freed up mula) and 'Lach.

    How is that for an overall upgrade?

  • Trade Melt

  • Trading Melt

  • Damn it, fuck

  • In reply to Shady:

    Smh...

  • In reply to Shady:

    Technical difficulties?

    I think we should all keep in mind how much Melt would cost. No one really knows, but the fact that it's taking this long and the franchise tag is being thrown about, it has to be a lot.

    DT/DE Calais Cambell got 5 years, $55 million; $31 million guaranteed

    So I imagine it's around that ball park, maybe a little less.

  • um, yes please!

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    In reply to Shady:

    Trading Melton would be insane. It's the type of talk that exists so there are more topics that are feasible during the off season. If we sign Melton are cap is too low to have much room for the nutty wheeling and dealing that takes place on blogs in February. Now back to the underwear Olympics. I think I see the shadow of Jaron Gilbert.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    meh

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Haha exactly.

  • Mike Mayock said the draft was heavy at OT/DT positions. If Melton wants to pretend he could get 10 sacks not playing beside Julius Peppers, then I say whoa nelly. We could get a decent DT in round one and get our linemen thereon in. Cash to go to the ebst value FA OT out there. I think we're covered at guard. If we don't draft a DT then OT and perhaps a good center if there's one there. No more Garza. That surely has to stop now. I'm sucking on lead if I have to watch another season of him at Center.

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    So the Bears finally draft and develop a Pro Bowl Player, who is now one of the top 5 sought after free agents available and we should cut him loose?

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Rather bizarre, is it not?

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    It's not about WANTING to cut him loose, it's about CAP.

    I did a whole CAP break down in the last thread, but long story short, we'll have about $2M to spare after certain Bear FAs (including Melton) are released and re-signed (excluding Lach).

    This means no bad as LT or TE in FA for us this year, and next year we'll be even more cap crunched.

    If we can get a 1st and 3rd for Melton while freeing up $8M to sign a LT - why not? It's definitely an option.

    It's not like with Manning where we trained him then just let him go for nothing.

  • Grab that guard in round two?

    http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/0ap1000000144392/article/terron-armstead-lane-johnson-head-banner-day-for-olinemen

  • I'm beginning to think Jeff's on the take from Lovie, using a bit of that final year of his contract to pay Jeff to write that we should re-sign everyone.

    Urlacher was in Lovie's pocket, and the guy has the propensity to be a clubhouse cancer when he wants to be. He will NOT embrace the new regime, and he may foster dissent amongst the vets if they don't agree or like the changes.

    He needs to go. We can get all Carlton Fisk wif it, and give him a Harley on the field for his retirement - but then he's got to ride it into the sunset.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I suppose you're right, Lach's locker room influence could work both ways, good and bad. But I don't see why he would sacrifice his last year in the NFL to foment resentment against Mel Tucker and Marc Trestman. I think it's more likely he secures buy-in from vets like Briggs, Tillman, Izzy and Peppers than not. Needless to say, those guys are far more likely to buy in if Urlacher is back next season.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Winning cures all ills. That needs to be the focus.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I doubt he wants to come back to cause trouble. He just wants to play football the way he's played it his entire career. Chicago is the only place he'll get to do that with the guys he's used to doing it with. As far as the current staff is concerned, I think he'll be as non-controversial as possible. I've never heard any stories about him being any kind of clubhouse cancer, in fact, I was under the impression he was quite the opposite...

  • WR Combine report

    WR Tavon Austin who I am on record for the Bears drafting (hopefully in the second) has had a really good combine.

    He's only 5'8 175 but he is strong (benched 225 14 times which is more than some 6'4 220 guys).

    And Austin's FAST. He clocked in at 4.25 unofficially (That's CJ2K fast) - 4.34 officially.

    Perhaps the funniest quote of the combine was from a G.M. on Austin, "He runs like he has a rocket in his ass."

    He performed well in the position drills, and his tape and productivity is great.

    I also like his attitude. He has a gigantic Steve Smith chip on his shoulder and went out and attacked the combine.

    I would love for us to land him. We desperately need a guy who will force safeties away from the LOS so that Alshon, Bmarsh, Forte and new TE can do damage. He also can return.

    Another guy who can fit that role who is WR Marquise Goodwin (5'9 180), though I like Austin more.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/24/austins-40-confirms-the-quote-of-the-combine/#comments

  • I don't get why everyone wants to forget Earl.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    not me.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Forget about what, always being injured when we need him the most?

    I love Earl, but he doesn't run a 4.25 and the safeties will just all move up on 3rd and short with him in (and more blitzes for our poor o-line and concussion Cutler too since no one's worried about him burning anyone over the top)

    A fast slot guy can help us with our run game on those 3rd and shorts (and clear it out for Marsh and Alshon in the middle) and keep the D honest.

    We need a variety of WRs. We got two big Zs, a possession receiver in Earl, and that's about it.

    We need a true X and a slot/burner/kr/pr guy (not to mention a TE). Just look at how many type receivers the Pack and Falcons trot out there.

    And if anyone says Hester is that guy, I'll kick him in the nads.

  • "The new defensive coordinator needs a defensive signal-caller in the huddle who already has the respect of the ten men around him."

    Nick Roach?

  • Nick Roach, bless his art skills, is not a leader like Brian Urlacher.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I'm down with nick roach after last season gents.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It was curious that Roach was the first word out of Marshall's "mouth" (beak? What do you use on Twitter?) when commenting about free agents to sign

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    he REALLY surprised me last season dave. I was VERY impressed with his play.

  • Happy Purim to all the blog members of the tribe.

    For a laugh, see Matt Bowen get annoyed when I tweet him to point out his use of the same literary device in pretty much every article. "I get it" apparently did not apply to my joke.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Get your grogger ready.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I imagine it goes something like this...

    http://www.comedycentral.com/video-clips/otfedh/futurama-robanukah-oil-wrestling

  • oh, and this is hilarious.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    thanks you too NB

  • Anyone have an opinion on this guy? Worth a chance if he falls to the lower rounds? In the old days, I'd say no way the Bears would roll the dice but Emery sort of did that with Marshall:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/honey-badger-no-more-mathieu-185010784--nfl.html

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    yes please. guy was a 100% BEAST in college... as a sophomore. He smoked weed?!?! Holy shit, really? No college fb players smoke weed man!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Its not about the fact that he smoked the stuff. Its about the fact that, once all eyes were on him and he knew he was getting drug tested regularly, he still couldn't quit. You worry a guy like that will come into the league, get put on a similar drug testing watch and just spend too much time suspended.

    But I'd do what the Pats did with Denard and draft him late. Maybe use our 6th on him.

    If we draft him and he does well, it puts us in an interesting position come 2014 with CBs. We will have three CBs (Peanut, Jennings and Mathieu), one who is a rookie earning trust and two who are big time free agents.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I get it NB, it was more a commentary on the fact that we never take flyers on guys like this. In my mind, it would only be if it were a VERY late round pick up or more advantageously as an UDFA like the burfict kid.

    Give him a shot to clean up his act around some guys who've gone through it and come out the other end. He's a special talent and could also be our new returner. I would love to get him on the cheap.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'd take HoneyBadger in the 5th and not blink twice.

    We need a solid slot CB. We need to get younger. And it's a bonus that Mathieu is a great PR/KR and special teamers.

    And if you think he's too small, then maybe we should cut Jennings who is about the same size.

    Mathieu is gamer and playmaker. We'd be lucky to get him for a 5th.

  • Bang! Bang!

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Mathioe is 5'7". Marshall is 6'4".

    Emery said he wants big guys.

    Next...

  • We need Lach back. enuff said

  • http://clubhousecancer.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/04/18/urlacher3.jpg

  • http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-12-07/sports/ct-spt-1207-dan-mcneil-bears-chicago--20121207_1_brian-urlacher-bears-phil-emery

  • In reply to gpldan:

    McNeil has been pretty anti-Lovie as well as anti-Urlacher, but I still agree with this.

    Did anyone see the article on the issues Brian has had with his health? Brian has spinal arthritis. This is painful stuff. He's probably shot way way up to play.

    Maybe Al should give us a history lesson or a Burma Shave on what it was like to sit through Butkus' last two years. It wasn't fun.

    Don't make the mistake again.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    kind of agree as well.

    spinal arthritis!?!? Man, that is NOT going to be a fun getting old story. bummer.

  • Argo is Dancing with Wolves to Zero Dark Thirty's Goodfellas.

    I thought Dancing was a stupid, stupid film. Because it is. Argo isn't stupid stupid, but it's wrong in so many, many ways I can't back it.

    ZDT may have some inaccuracies, but I consider them minor. I also find Bigelow brave for getting out there and saying what we all know is true: we got some intel from busting heads and sticking them in boxes. And, while that's not nice or pretty, it worked.

    The 'blowback' from McCain is all you need to know how it touched a nerve in DC. Not because it was wrong (it wasn't), but because it had the balls to show that they linked the courier from pounding on some guys. And nobody wants to think that; they want to think that KSM only babbled and became a zombie. But only at the end after waterboard trip #50 or so. Along that trip he took, he gave up some info.

    End. Of. Oscar. Rant.

    McFarland loses 20 points for the juvenile "We saw your Boobs" musical number but gains them back for getting Shatner to don the Star Fleet Uni one more time...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    didn't see any of them. Probably will when they come to PPV.

    Not a huge fan of McFarland himself, but like a lot of his stuff. Watching the oscars would be my waterboarding. I assume you watching them has to do with you having a gf. So happy I don't have to do that kind of shit any more.

    This one's for you GP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fZd2KOZMcw

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I keep singing "why...why...manti" at the train station, I love that hook

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5ffHd7O3yQ

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And you should see ZDT. It's good.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I plan to my man. Just not into sitting in a dark theater for 3 hrs when I could be doing other things outside.

    You know, opty cost and all that.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You missed the James Bond tribute. There was also one of those Grey Poupon commercials where aristocrats share mustard in Rolls Royce's, but in this particular installment, a car chase ensues. It was very Roger Moore.

    The highlight of the show was Charlize Theron being there. Lowlight was the rest of it.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    link(s)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAQGf_xd_9s

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://timemachine.toolate.com/oscars/2-24-2013/8pm-est/

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    didn't work for me, but thanks.

    here's one for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaEU_A405zA

    (it always bugged me that they started the song just a little to early in the shoot opening)

    Also, sweet old rossis he was busting.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Here's the Gey Poupon commercial.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tj_eHWm6E0

    I mentioned it as a joke. Never liked Roger Moore. Always thought he would have been perfect for Poupon.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Here's the full monty: http://greypouponchase.com/

    I usually detest these terrible 'web movies' created and pedaled shamelessly by the vacuous marketing community as thinly veiled promotions, but that one was pretty funny.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Speaking of Shatner...

    http://stufffromjudy.posterous.com/best-commercial-shatner-ever-did-i-unconditio

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    you know I had breakfast with him here in SD one morning Dave.

    ... and by had breakfast with him, I mean he was eating in the same restaurant.

    It was actually strange. I was walking out and just happened to look over and notice him sitting there. He stopped eating and looked up at me and we just kind of momentarily stared at each other. I'm not sure if he expected me to have an expression or surprise, or go over and ask for his autograph or something, but being as I couldn't give a smaller fuck if I was a midget about celebrities, I turned away expressionless and just kept walking.

    It was really a weird exchange (I am pretty sensitive about sensing different interactions with people)… it felt like he was expecting something from me, or was waiting for me to do something. It was really weird and I thought about it the rest of the day trying to figure out what it was all about. I did think, ‘hmmmm… maybe he’s gay’. The exchange kind of had that feel to it a little (yes yes, gay dudes like me cause of the shaved head thing… heading you off at the pass here shady or doc)

    Oh, and he looks like shit in real life without all the makeup and camera angles.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Maybe he appreciated you leaving him alone, and did not want to "invite" you over by looking open. Or maybe he was hungover. Or maybe he's a dick.

  • leon... sandcastle.

    http://www.sbnation.com/2013/2/23/4021512/nfl-combine-video-linemen-40s-chariots-of-fire#ooid=Vva3ZrOTrOSJstqZuJSk6oViP7uIExS0

    (disclaimer: Terron Armstead excluded from the statement this video is making)

  • I think some of you will really enjoy this... directed by the mfing man Dave Grohl

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/sound-city/id587612681

  • http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2013-02-24/2013-nfl-scouting-combine-40-times-tavon-austin-marquise-goodwin-draft?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl9%7Csec3_lnk2%26pLid%3D274752

    Sorry $, this guy ain't 'falling' to us. Most likely, the Raiders will trade everything they have to move up and take him at #2.

    Also, is it just me or do the slomos of these dudes running in fucking spanxed make you want to throw up. Gross man.

  • also, I wasn't going to, but I just watched the Oscar Bond tribute, so I'll repost from last thread. Any takers this time?

    whoever did this list needs to be summarily executed. Pathetic.

    http://movies.msn.com/academy-awards/ranking-the-james-bond-films-worst-to-best/photo-gallery/feature/?photoidx=1

    In general order of baddassness, from top to bottom… all the movies SHOULD be ranked by actor in this order:

    • Sean Connery (no shit, right!?)
    • Roger Moore
    • Daniel Craig
    • George Lazenby
    • Then the other two clowns who never should have been allowed to deface my most beloved movie ‘series’. I call this ‘The dark period’ (timothy Dalton, are you fucking serious?!?!?)

    Anyway, here’s my top 10:
    1. Dr. No
    2. The Spy Who Loved Me (I know, but this was the first bond I actually ever saw as a boy with my pop. It holds a special place in my heart. My bro and I even had the toy lotus that went underwater and shot the little red missiles out of the back)
    3. Goldfinger
    4. From Russia with Love
    5. Thunderball
    6. You Only Live Twice
    7. For Your Eyes Only
    8. View to a Kill
    9. Moonraker or Octopussy
    10. Three-way tie: Live and Let Die, Diamonds are Forever, or Man with the Golden Gun

    And yooooouuuuu?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I don't like Bond movies but Connery belongs at the top and Moore at the bottom beneath Lazenby and Dalton, although I've never seen Lazenby and Dalton play Bond.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    ?!?!?!?!?

    Wow. you are dead to me now.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    not really buttsteak. I just cain't give you up

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    or was it quit you? I never saw the movie.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It was quit. But Heath Ledger's dead to me.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    hahahahahaha

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i guess he's dead to everyone, right.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Agree with MB. How could u not like bond? Daniel Craig beast!

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    MB, Fresno. I don't like Rambo either.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    oh for christ sake bs... I'm trying here!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    We'll always have Dave Grohl.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-ahy218_FM

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    true bs, true.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    That's because Rambo movies generally suck.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I really stopped watching after the original, but the original was really the begning of the modern day action thriller.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Rambo 1 is one of my favorite action films of the era. I'm not a fan of the actual action sequences, but everything else in the movie was really amazing. That last scene with him and his CO in the stand off gets me every time.

    Rambos 2 and 3 are watchable, but the added emphasis on those action sequences takes away from the quality for me. The line at the end of Rambo 2 "I wish our country would love us, as much as we love it" or something was just so contrived after the great writing in the first film.

    Its been on my list for a while to read the book.

  • Are you fucking kidding me?! Shit just got REEEEAAAAAL!!!

    Straight from Q dept...

    https://getmyo.com/

    I am SO getting one of these. Holy shit!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Does it work with RedTube?

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Does it work on certain female body parts? Could save one from having to get off the couch during a Bears game...

  • Man, everybody disses Dalton. Dalton did NOT suck. He tried to go back to the books, where Bond was mostly humourless and a strict assassin. His action sequences were CGI-less and, IMO, decent.

    Brosnan was pathetic. Pretty boy, and at times he made the character nonsensical.

    It goes:

    1. Connery
    2. Craig
    3. Dalton
    4. Lazenby
    5. Moore
    6. Brosnan

    I'm not going to order all the films, but Goldfinger is - of course - #1. I put Casino Royale at 2 and Dr. No at 3. Die Another Day is last. They made JOHN CLEESE into Q, people, to replace Desmond Lewellyn. Monty fucking Python as Q. A bad joke.

    Also, in early Moore films, Q showed up in a manner befitting the Quartermaster. He actually HELPED. He showed up with gadgets and stuff to advance the mission. Only in Skyfall did Q get that role again. Thank God.

    I also appreciate that while Llewyln is Q, they didn't advance the stereotype of the doddering old Brit tinkerer, and chose a young guy with a hacker ethos to go forward. You BOUGHT that Q was a MIT genius hacker in Skyfall, an equal to any Assange like person. Well played.

    Also, on WGN yesterday they said all the Bonds were coming on stage with each other last night, I really watched to see that. And because my girlfriend wanted to. But it didn't happen. I thought Shirley could still belt for 70 years old. Her and Streisand were still trying to show you can get it done in Decade 8, and that was nice. THat wah-wah trumpet in Goldfinger is unmatchable. Skyfall is a great theme, though.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Really? Dalton? Really? Common maings.

    I don't get the moore hate? He wasn't as good looking as connery, but he added a little more of the dry humor to the role ("all those feathers and he still couldn't fly"). He is by far my #2.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKq4JL_yo6U
    (That's putting it mildly 007)

    btw, love that song. Was the song I played for my ex wife for our dance at our wedding. oh well

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    maybe this will help GP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiTUKJrlYUA

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I seldom need more than this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85PcMJ9D8X0

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Great scene.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Imagine if Craig made fun of himself this way in a Farrely Brothers movie.

    I'm sorry - but it was Moore's decisions to make Bond into a giant joke that had his films plummet.

    Well that and the Shaft overtones of Man w. the Golden Gun.

    And Jaws.

    And that stupid fuck of a redneck Sheriff they put in there after Smokey and the Bandit became a hit.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm with GP on this MB.

    I didn't like Dalton either at first, but he's a lot more sinister like the OG bond was supposed to be.

    And an American Bond? C'mon man! That's like British Batman.

    What's your fav Bond song MB?
    Fav Bond femme?

    I REALLY like that girl from Casino Royal

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oXuVa07BLbQ/TVZrs6mRDUI/AAAAAAAAAow/BblwclvNLhk/s1600/caterina-murino-01.jpg

  • yummy.

    great questions. I'm sure there are hotter chicks, but I will always remember UA from Dr. No in that funky assed old 'bikini': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3lAjyUUS1g

    As for song... like I said, I played nobody does it better at my wedding... but I really like skyfall. and just to prove I'm a big fan, I've had the bond theme as my main mobile phone ringer for a couple years now.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Not "Live and Let Die" (the song)?

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    ha! very funny....

    you only live twice?
    Dr. no?
    die another day?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu4xQV_Q344&list=PL77955BC41682DF2D

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm serious - Live and Let Die, best Bond song. Bad wedding song. Good divorce song.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    yes, I know what you were saying... that's why I laughed.

    The BEST for a divorce song is you only live twice. I've been reborn BS, reborn my man!

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I see. That's kind of funny. I actually edited the original comment to exclude any mention of the D-i-v-o-r-c-e.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I apprecaite your sensitivity... and your attempt not to get me in trouble with NB again.

    Sorry NB.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    the first rule of divorce is... do not talk about divorce.

    The second rule of divorce...

  • I'm really impressed with the 3 new bond films. I thought Casino Royale was fucking badass. It got back to what Bond was supposed to be. Just like Batman Begins, the reboots made me interested again in 2 franchises that I had given up on.

    Between just the 3 new bonds and the 3 batmans there have been some goddamn entertaining movies coming out.

    Affleck is turning into the new Clooney who reinvented himself as a Producer and Director as well as a solid actor.

    You're going to see well done movies like, Argo, The Good German, The Descendants, Gone Baby Gone, The American, Hollywoodland, etc for years to come.

  • Hearing Te'o ran a 4.81. Not good.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Gonna break that BR ban, only because they break down Why Why Manti's shortcomings as well as anybody:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1476249-how-alabama-neutralized-notre-dame-linebacker-manti-teo

    The video is like a instructional film in how he will fail in the NFL

  • In reply to gpldan:

    You realize BR is far from a reputable website. Faaaar from it.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Takes 20 yards for him to reach top speed, accd. to Mayock (via Jensen).

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    That's good, so maybe he can be within view of the camera as the RB flips into the end zone. No thanks.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I run a 4.8 and I'm 35yrs old and have knee joints made of legos and a standing blood alcohol content of .04

  • Heehee Legos.

  • In reply to Shady:

    One could always do some cool stuff with those, but I must confess that prosthetic knees was not previously on my list.

  • I like your standing blood alcohol level.

    You're about a tick-tack away from always being legally drunk!

  • The first mock draft to adjust for Alex Smith's pending deal to become a Chief is out:

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/2013/2/25/4026530/2013-nfl-mock-draft-combine-star-lotulelei-tank-carradine

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That's one of the worst mock drafts I've ever seen.

    Richardson isn't even the best DT - Floyd has taken over that spot.

    Mingo will be lucky to be a first rounder, yet alone top 5.

    Raiders taking Geno Smith? Did Al Davis return from the dead? They already got a possible read option QB in Pryor.

  • Here's the breakdown on Cooper:

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/2013/2/7/3935444/jonathan-cooper-2013-nfl-draft-scouting-report

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Fuck yes, I want him but he'll be gone most likely.

  • In reply to Shady:

    so we think taking a guard over a tackle is a good move? I assume he's a better player at the pick than any OT left on the board?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    as a side not, fluker, austin, and watson are still on the board at our pick in this mock.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    note

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    For this kid? Yes, unless Fisher or Johnson are available.

  • In reply to Shady:

    oy!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He's in that Pouncey-as-center class of interior lineman that can make a club in the trenches.

    We started in '83 with Bortz, Thayer and Covert.

    Let's do it again.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    What a fucking great draft 1983 was.

    Round 1: Covert and Gault
    Round 2: Mike Richardson
    Round 3: Dave Duerson
    Round 4: Tom Thayer, Pat Dunsmore
    Round 8: Richard Dent, Mark Bortz
    Round 9+: A bunch of nobodies (although 3 made the team)

    Just amazing...

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Pretty sure Pat Dunsmore's son plays for the Bucs..

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    wow

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Best draft in Bears history because the '65 draft (Butkus and Sayers) resulted in ZERO post-season appearances.

    Who authored that '83 draft?

    I would have THOUGHT is was Jim Finks but he quit in '82 because Papa Bear hired Ditka without consulting Finks.

    It was likely Finks' eventual successor, Jerry Vainisi, although Vainisi was not officially VP & GM until August of '83.

    Also in 1983, the Bears signed an undrafted free agent wide receiver named Dennis MacKinnon.

    That worked out pretty well, too.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    And Tobi IS correct about Drake Dunsmore being the son of Pat Dunsmore.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I don't think Cooper will be gone, Shady.

    C/OGs ALWAYS fall during the draft. I think only twice in draft history have they gone top 10, and when you factor in that Warmack will get chosen ahead of Cooper, he's a real possibility for us at 20.

    Warmack and Cooper are very different Gs. Warmack of course is a road grader, a guy Tice would love, but Cooper is a far more athletic savvy OG who gets to the 2nd level quickly. Supposedly Kromer prefers those type of linemen, so again we're going to see a different draft from the past based on new coaching philosophies.

  • And Cooper can play C too, so Garza can be kicked back out to OG or replaced altogether.

  • http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/25/eagles-release-cullen-jenkins/

    Cullen Jenkins available. I know I shouldn't love this man but I do.

    He can play inside and outside. I know we want to get younger but I love me some Cullen Jenkins.

  • Over Melton?

  • In reply to Shady:

    nope, just in general. I always loved Jenkins when he was on the Packers and wanted him when he was a free agent. he's probably too old now....

  • what about babin? Didn't the eagles let him go? Does he have any gas left? He always struck me as a badass

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He was picked up immediately I believe by the Jags.

  • damn

  • damn: http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Tests-reveal-Star-Lotulelei-has-heart-condition.html?sct=hp_t2_a12

  • Damn, I like Avery's New World Porter. They got is back in at the store after a too long hiatus.

    Mm.. mm... good

  • So, I just finished Skyfall last night. It took 3 nights, as I fell asleep during the first 2 attempts. Here's what I thought of it...

    1. I'm not as Bondy as it seems a lot of people are. My first Bond movie was Goldeneye, and really.. I only gave a shit about the video game.

    2. Daniel Craig should not be James Bond. As little as I may know of the whole series, I do know that Daniel Craig is not the guy. I think I saw Casino Royale, but I don't remember it whatsoever... Definitely never saw Q.O.S.

    3. I rooted for the villain for the entire movie. Well, I guess we didn't even see him until half way, but fuck that wrinkly old gaping nostril bitch. I've hated her in every Bond movie she was in. Plus, No Country For Old Men is better than every Daniel Craig movie combined.

    4. There was so much stupid shit in that movie I can't even keep track of it all. I spent more time suspending disbelief than anything.

    5. YOU NEED A GOD DAMN FLASHLIGHT?

    6. If that movie was a top 10 Bond movie, I don't want to see numbers 24-11. I plan on watching some of the classic Connery ones, but fuck anything with Daniel Craig, or anyone with two first names.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    I do like craig, but maybe just because we've subjected to fucking dalton and that other cunt for what, 5-6 bonds and countless years? Maybe it's just nice not to have bond be a vagina in spy's clothing again. I do see your point and it's interesting hearing it from someone 'on the outside'.

    I also agree that the new bond movies have MUCH less substance than before willie. I think we can thank CGI for this, because all you have to do is replace good (read: difficult) writing and excellent plots and deep characters with big fucking explosions and the general american public just stares and oooohs and ahhhhs instead of calling bullshit.

    I too was screaming at my screen about the flashlights… really? Fucking really? But those two are as old as dirt. When I saw the old guy for the first time in that movie, I thought… dude is having to prop himself up against a wall to stand up. Deuuum. And since he was in the bourne series… I thought it has been more powerful/better than the bond series in the same time period.

    (gaping nostril bitch... hilarious)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Her nostrils are SO big.... Like twice the size of the chick from the Biggest Loser.

    On one hand, they provided a perfect opportunity to test the black levels on my plasma.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Hahahahahahaha

    http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/10/12/1350066047344/Judi-Dench-008.jpg

    they're like two sucking black holes. I bet her V02 Max numbers are off the charts!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    oh oh, this one's much better

    http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Arts/Arts_/Pictures/2009/5/6/1241605773048/Dame-Judi-Dench-001.jpg

    Deeeeeuuuuum!

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    and Kate Upton is a fat cow.

  • and I'd love to milk her udders all day long Johnny.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i was using my Kate Upton theory about people that post on the internet to voice my displeasure with Willie's "analysis" of the new bond films.

    Casino Royale alone was 10x better than almost every single bond film ever made before it. Quantam of Solace was a little far fetched but had some solid scenes and was decent overall. Skyfall was a badass movie overall even though the flashlights were a little crazy.

    Daniel Craig is a great Bond and even the British fucking agree and they spewed the same shit Willie did......until they saw the movies and jizzed in their pants.

  • I know Johnny. I just can't help thinking about her boobs when you mention her name. Think of it as a personality flaw.

    This is just cray cray talk though: "Casino Royale alone was 10x better than almost every single bond film ever made before it."

    Common maings.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "than ALMOST every single bond film made before it"

    There were some great ones...and then there were the rest.

  • Better movie doesn't make a better Bond.

    For example, the new Batman trilogy is way mo betta' than all the other Batmans... but that doesn't make Christian Bale any less of a bitch, and any more of a better Batman than Keaton (who is THE Batman). Imagine Nolan's movie with Keaton (adjust for age) or your beloved Casino Royale - which I don't remember - with Connery (ditto) or any other non-Daniel Craig.

    Also, who is Kate Upton?

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    just stop it.

  • hahah...All this talk of FA, and if the Redskins go all Al Davis, there might not be FA this year!

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/25/redskins-considering-nuclear-option-to-restore-cap-space/#comments

  • speaking of Al Davis' Raiders

    https://twitter.com/cottovic/status/306119012209811458

    Man, it never ends for that team. Did Al do a deal with lucifer for their XVIII SB win... or is he just lucifer himself and trouble naturally follows?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    haha...he looks like he just guzzled a liter of purple drank.

    And his neck is actually bigger than his head.

  • I know... so awesome.

    here's another for you: http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/2/25/4028664/john-harbaugh-manti-teo-40-gif

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    haha...Te'o is SLLLOWWWW.

    4.81!

    OT Armestead 4.71
    OT Lane Johnson 4.72
    My grandma- 4.80

    Te'o can't shed blocks, can't run, can't cover.

    He's gonna go in the 2nd unless the Texans or Packers take him late.

    BTW, Ogletree who I said right after the BCS Championship would be # ILB ran a 4.62 which is EXACTLY what Lach ran.

    Converted S just like Lach.

    Knucklehead, unlike Lach.

  • rasist

    http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims3/GLOB/resize/550x600/http://www.blogcdn.com/www.mandatory.com/media/2013/02/black-kids-desk.jpg

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    dude, LOL: http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims3/GLOB/resize/550x600/http://www.blogcdn.com/www.mandatory.com/media/2013/02/sharks-friendly-teeth.jpg

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Looks like another reason to ban Target.... Why do I laugh at this?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    ha, wtf!?

    At least it didn't have a 40s cup holder or a chained roach clip!

  • damn.

  • just fucking around. I wish my computer desk had a stein holder!

  • Upon further consideration...

    "Georgia ILB Alec Ogletree ran twin forty times of 4.62 and 4.62 at the NFL Scouting Combine.
    Everyone knows Ogletree is a stellar athlete -- and these times are plenty fast for a 6-foot-3, 232-pound linebacker -- but club interviews and background checks will have a far greater impact on his draft slot. One NFL Player Personnel Director recently characterized Ogletree as "an immature idiot."

  • hahahaha... awesome. (you know, not for him)

  • this made me LOL
    http://cosbysweaters.com/2013/02/25/rugby-player-tackles-streaker-gets-face-full-of-ass-videopics/

  • and finally, I don't get badminton... it's like tennis, but much less hard right?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r6H9mUgcA8

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    What is it with Asians and net sports? Ping-pong, tennis, badminton...

    I think badminton "season" was the same time as Bball season. I remember seeing guys on the badminton team I never saw before on campus.

  • dude, rasist!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Badminton scandal! Just a notch below "Dodge Ball Controversy"

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/02/olympics-badminton-scandal-rocks-china.html

  • Quote of the day.

    "Like in other sports, the Communist Party pours millions of dollars into training badminton players, who eat, sleep, and breathe shuttlecock."

  • Damn! I just passed beer through my nose laughing at that one. Seriously it's 2013. Time to ditch shuttlecock for something less anatomical.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    We always called it a "birdy."

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Well that's way better than eating shuttlecock like the communists.

  • Guys thus far I'm really impressed with who I didn't hear much of before combine.

    OT Armstead, not only did he run fast, but he also impressed in the position drills and in the East-West Shrine game.

    TE Vance McDoland. 4.62 and looked natural.

    WR Swope. Ran a 4.35 and he's white!

    LB Cornelius Washington. Not only did he run a 4.55, but he also benched 36 times! 6'4 265 - had mediocre production at Georgia, but might be a steal with proper coaching.

  • here's another topic for you guys.

    I own the Galaxy note II and an ipad. I fucking HATE iOS. I don't get it... it's the worst thing ever compared to android. It's so bad and so NOT intuitive. How can everyone be so into iOS?!

    Just. Don't. Get. It.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You're not alone. I love my DROID (except when posting here). Don't care for the ipad.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I have always been a windows user. I have a Samsung Galaxy phone, which I like except for all the adware that they force me to have on the phone (adware on the voicemail ap?). I have never particularly liked the Apple operating system, or the single button mouse on Mac computers, or the Apple productivity suite. Also not a fan of the google productivity stuff either (googledocs etc.)

    But with all of that said, I can appreciate the simplicity of the iPhone. Using the iPhone is like buying an Apple computer. There are relatively few options, but each one is very good for what it does. If I want to buy something new (like say an iPad or Galaxy Note); the apple product gives me a quick path to get exactly what my friends have.

    For better or for worse.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Apple is a cult, always has been. No explanations are required.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I own way too much Apple stuff (macbook pro, ipods, ipad, iphone) and I hate Apple so much.

    The iPod was not the best mp3 player when it came out (no drag and drop ability). The iPhone is no longer the best touchscreen phone, nor is the iPad the best tablet. Macbooks are fucking overpriced and the Snow Leopard or Lion King or whatever the fuck is for little kids and octogenarians. Yet, still.. they get me. Everytime. Fuck them. And fuck iTunes. In the wormhole.

    It creates a dissonance that often causes headaches.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    itunes sucks too. That program is horrible. So hard to use.

    Samsung is blowing everyone else out of the water right now (on the hardware side). My phone is 2.5 times bigger than the iphone and is essentially a small TV that does everything well. It's seriously an awesome phone.

    http://www.samsung.com/us/the-next-big-thing-galaxy-note-ii/?cid=ppc-

    Evolve willie… just drop what you have and evolve baby. You won’t regret it, I promise.

  • 59 days till the 1st. round!

  • I put this in the last thread, but maybe it got lost. It's a good article regarding OGs and the draft.

    "In the last 30 years, only five guards have been chosen in the top 10 — Mike Munchak (eighth, Oilers, 1982), Bruce Matthews (ninth, Oilers, 1983), John Rienstra (ninth, Steelers, 1986), Chris Naeole (10th, Saints, 1997) and Leonard Davis (second, Cardinals, 2001).

    Over that period, there were 16 times guards were bypassed completely in the first 20.

    Two guards have been chosen in the top 20 only twice in 30 years — in 2001 (Davis and Steve Hutchinson, 17th, Seahawks) and in 1982 (Munchak and Sean Farrell, 17th, Bucs).

    - Pompei

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/ct-spt-0224-bears-pompei-chicago--20130224,0,7004145.column

    HOWEVER, this year might be one of those exceptions unfortunately. Bad QBs, D-linemen all over the board, LBs with all sorts of issues, few stud secondary prospects.

    It's a shitty draft class at the top, and this might be one of those years where teams just play it safe and draft all the top OTs and OGs before us.

  • sweet

  • Wouldn't this be funny?

    "The Chicago Tribune expects the Bears to be "in line" if Jermichael Finley is released by the Packers.
    Beat writer Vaughn McClure "hears" the Bears and Finley are viewed as a "great fit." The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel's Bob McGinn made the same allusion in his Monday article on Finley's future with Green Bay. The Pack would certainly prefer to keep Finley out of the NFC North if they decide to part ways, but won't have any say in where he goes if he's released instead of traded."

    While Finley's at it, he can tell us all their calls, audibles, formations, subpackages...

    Finley had a too many drops and is a bit of head-case, but in the 2nd half of the season he seemed to get his shit together (or else the Pack wouldn't mind losing him).

  • Ugh. I'd almost rather keep Davis... Almost.

  • In reply to Shady:

    you just said you'd rather keep davis. Common maings

    btw, every f*cking time I hear that bruno mars song I picture you grinning and flying double bird (in that pic on my phone).

    You ruined it for me. bastard.

  • Finley has a much higher opinion of his talent than the Packers do and remember, Finley's marquee games have come against the Bears. Take those out of the mix and what have you got? A head case with iffy hands.

  • it doesn't suck being tom brady: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1082693-what-tom-bradys-new-contract-means-for-the-new-england-patriots?hpt=hp_t3

    and: http://www.athleteswives.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/tom-bradys-wife-gisele-bundchen-02.jpg

  • barkevious mingo
    4.58 40
    37" vertical
    6'5" 245

    I would draft him for the name alone. Bing compared to DeMarcus Ware

    Also that BYU kid ziggy from senegal blew it up too. 6'5" 275. 4.63 40, 21 bench (meh), 34.5 vertical.

  • btw, the honey badger had 11 FFs a bunch of pics, bunch of INTs or fumbles returned for td and two kick returned for TDs.

    Dude, this kid needs to be a bear and needs to be mentored by peanut and timmy j. We need to get this kid.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    oh, he did 4 (yes, FOUR) reps at 225 today. that said...

    I never had to lift Jerry Rice over my chest...I just had to cover him - Deion Sanders

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If we don't get him in the 5th if he's available, we're gonna be kicking ourselves like with Burfict in the 7th.

    Who was our 7th rounder again? Some CB who got cut, that's who.

  • Seems to me that 31 other teams passed on Burfict in the 7th.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Some of these character guys, like Burfict and Denard last year, wouldn't have the same success on every team.

    From what I read, Burfict had a chance prior to the draft to really bond with the Bengals staff and his future teammates. There was a personal connection there, something that made them trust one another. Cincy takes a lot of chances on these types of things, but they also have an organization predicated on the idea of helping players with bad attitudes improve.

    Would Burfict have had the same success in a place like Seattle where Pete Caroll is very inspirational, but also very demanding of loyalty and "buy in" from his players? Would he have had the same season in New York or Miami or another big media market with all the extra distractions? Would he have had the same season if his team had been less competitive despite having talent in similar spots (Detroit? Carolina? Tampa Bay?)

    I tend to think Chicago could have provided a similar environment to Cincy, albeit with a bigger media group, but its impossible to say Burfict would have made it here. Its also impossible to say whether that progress would have been erased when Lovie was fired.

    Denard meanwhile, who was great in New England, would have been a disaster in Chicago. He was ejected from the Senior Bowl (I think it was the Senior Bowl) for fighting with... our very own Alshon Jeffery.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    good points NB.

    My thought is that at some point we have to stop living in the past at least a little. It's great that we're the no drama team (for the most part), but it also prevents us from taking calculated risks… and as you know, without risk there can be no reward.

    We need to evolve a little, it's not the 50's anymore... let's take a flyer on the right kid if the price is right. If he has issues and gets cut, then he gets cut. No loss, but he could be a very VERY good nickel and our new KR/PR.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I don't disagree. But it has to be a good fit.

    Think of it like this. You see a really great run coverage MLB still on the board in round 4. On the one hand, you know that this guy is being undervalued because of his weakness against the pass. I mean grossly undervalued. The guy is a brick wall and in the right system, he'd be awesome on short yardage downs. Do you draft him?

    If you're a 3-4 team, the answer is yes. 3-4 teams frequently need help against the run from their extra MLB. If you're the Bears? Nope. You need the MLB to cover the short pass over the middle in our system. The guy would be a bad fit. Its not a dig on our scheme, the defense looked pretty solid last year from what I see. Its just a bad fit. We can't get the best out of this player.

    Same thing with character. If the guy needs Ray Lewis as a mentor, he won't neccesarily respond to Lach or Briggs or Peanut who are much more low-key guys. If the guy needs a system where he can immediately get the chance to start at outside corner, he's going to find that tough against our returning probowlers.

    But if he needs a respectful, businesslike environment where guys can talk about stuff other than football on their breaks, where the vast majority of the players (as far as I see) are pretty devout Xians, where he will be developed underneath a confirmed starter for a season or two. That's Chicago. If he fits, bring him on.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I bet Burfict murders 6 people this offseason.

  • At least we would have gotten one good year from him, which is more than we got from our 6th or 7th last year.

  • I know he has baggage but I can't imagine that kid's still around in the 5th. Too talented.

  • "Experts" at combines (scouts, GMs, coaches, etc) on Lach

    "

    Seven of eight sources surveyed at the Combine believe free agent Brian Urlacher could still contribute in 2013.
    Seven of the eight also expect Urlacher back with the Bears. "I think he’s got another year left," one GM said. "And he still has value as a leader." According to beat writer Sean Jensen, the "sentiment" is that Urlacher will have "other options" if Chicago decides to move on. "

    Rotoworld

  • Horseshit. Did Brian's agent write that? Nobody picks him up if he leaves

  • In reply to gpldan:

    No love for Uncle Fester?

    No one thought Kreutz would be picked up but not only was he picked up, but the Saints paid him $4M to start before promptly benching him.

    There's always some young team willing to pay for "leadership".

    I can easily see the Bengals signing Lach and keeping Burfict at WILL to learn how to play MLB from one of the best.

  • http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--tom-brady-puts-patriots-in-position-to-keep-winning-for-years-to-come-023501552.html

  • Teo said he had been running 4.6s. I guess his times were imaginary as well.

    If this kid runs 4.7s on Pro Day or above, he's going in the 4th

  • Can't believe the draft is so far away... I wants it now!

    A lot depends on how the Bears handle free agency, but I believe the Bears are near guarenteed to select a lineman (O or D) or a linebacker. It seems as if any other position would be a luxury the Bears couldn't afford because of the prior regimes missteps and mismanagement of the roster.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I want it now... I want cake NOOOOWWW!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zce-QT7MGSE&list=UU67f2Qf7FYhtoUIF4Sf29cA&index=3

  • In reply to Shady:

    we need a TE badly maings.... and another viable WR would be good too (but this one is a luxury)

    Oh, and there's no way $'s guy (austin whatever) will be there for us. He's all over the place after his showing yesterday.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I know the Bears need a TE, but drafting a 1st rounder? I don't believe there's enough value there. There should be some intriguing options in later rounds like Escobar (my guy), Kelce, Kasa and Sims. You know, guys that can actually catch a football.

  • In reply to Shady:

    whoa whoa whoa... when did you say first rounder!?

    You said draft baby! I was thinking rd 2 or 3 if a FA option doesn't pan out (I loved $'s plan to get us what we need) and the guy is there for us.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah, I meant in the 1st round.

  • In reply to Shady:

    OL

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If Jokey, Warmack, Fisher, Cooper, Fluker and Johnson are all off the board, you're drafting Armstead or Warford?

  • In reply to Shady:

    depends on who else is on the boards my man. I probably take ogletree or one of the TEs maybe? But might take a flyer on Armstead.

    You?

  • In reply to Shady:

    As I said, a lot depends on whether or not Melton and Lach are back, but under that scenario there should be some damn good D-Line/LB talent available. I'd love to indulge my guilty pleasure and draft a WR, but there are too many holes to fill. Trading down makes sense too.

  • In reply to Shady:

    looks like armstead might be Rd2. I'd move up to take him there.

    http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/terron-armstead?id=2540228

    Maybe give up our 3rd this year to move down to get him in 2

    (yes, I know we don't have a 3rd this year... hence the joke)

  • In reply to Shady:

    If all the Oline guys are off the board and we are left with, say...
    Ertz, Eifert, Ogletree, Minter, Te'o and say Mingo and Austin are all still on the board at #20, that is a great situation to trade down.

    Basically that scenario means there was a run on QBs, O-line and D-Line in the top 19 - fine. I just named 7 players that would be perfectly fine first round picks for us, but all of whom are maybe tricky because of some concern (Mingo too small, Austin too high for us to go WR, TEs don't block, MLBs all good not great).

    So, for example, we let the Texans have their choice at MLB. We drop back to #27. The only downside would be in every single team between 20 and 27 took one of the players I named above. But then, we can probably name someone else that should go on the list or maybe even trade back up a couple of spots.

  • Dennis Rodman is in N. Korea as a diplomat.

    Problem solved!

    Kim Jong Ill-in!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    hahahahaha. wtf?!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/26/dennis-rodman-north-korea

  • In reply to gpldan:

    http://siextramustard.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/dennis-rodman.jpg?w=400&h=580

  • My big worry on Cooper is that he's a tarheel. And he was a drive blocker in the ACC but could be bull rushed by the big tackles.

    In the ACC.

    I understand he's the pulling guard's pulling guard, as fleet of foot as you will ever see inside. And that probably works for where Kromer is heading.

    And hey, at this point, we're replacing Chico the Quitter and Spencer for Hire in there.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Sounds like he could be Chris Williams part 2 for us. But is that such a terrible thing at LG? The Williams cut was surprising to a lot of us on the blog... does anyone else think we'd be pretty comfortable at guard with a combination of Williams and Louis?

  • http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000145365/article/tyrann-mathieu-shows-speed-at-nfl-scouting-combine

    4.43 and 4.5. Did it look like he gave it 100%? I def question his work ethic, but I'd still def take a 5-7th rd flyer on him.

  • I wonder how long Synergy Man is going to monitor LL's rehab before drafting up a contract.

    http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2013/02/gabe_carimi_lance_louis_still_.html

    Synergy Man knows that even if he gets Cooper in the 1st, he needs to look at Tavon Austin or Steadman Bailey in 2. Because Knox is a broken toy that no amount of waiting for the glue to set is going to fix, and Hester needs to go.

    That gives you Jeffery, Marshall and Bennett. You can line up with that, but you need a burner to hit the slot once in awhile, and Emery knows this. Or Trestman or Kromer will tell him.

    I also like Watson. If Watson gets past the 2nd, you trade your 4th and 5th to get him in the 3rd.

    I want the Bears to have the Limey Bear.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/pete-prisco/21761976/fsus-menelik-watson-from-england-to-firstround-pick

    http://www.bigblueview.com/2013-nfl-draft/2013/2/21/4012628/2013-nfl-draft-prospect-profile-menelik-watson-ot-florida-state-new-york-giants

    I'm getting a draft boner thinking about a Cooper-Watson left side. We could even get another year from Garza with that left side.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And no, at age 25 - he's not a prospect. Fuck that. You play that guy if he can memorize the calls.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    this kid is tearing it up: http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/Marquise-Goodwin?id=2539964

    But he won't be around even at 20 I don't think.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Dude, Knox retired a couple of weeks ago.

  • http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2013-02-25/dion-jordan-oregon-ezekeil-ziggy-ansah-byu-nfl-draft-2012-scouting-combine?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl37%7Csec3_lnk3%26pLid%3D275361

  • It's pouring snow. Fuck you, snow. Fuck you right in the flake.

  • In reply to Shady:

    yeah, sucks. It's only 70 and not a cloud in the sky here today. Sucks... fucking freezing! Brrrrrr.

    oh, btw, picked up a used copy of MW3 for $17. I'm back!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'd like to point out when your weather sucks but I've never been able to pin that down. DAMN!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    ha

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I've been longing to smaw you...

  • In reply to Shady:

    hahahaha... you stuck at home for the blizzard? If so, I'll get on now... I'm home sick again.

    Is it normal for your kids to get sick 4 times in two months... getting you sick 3 times. I am pissed.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    @ work I'll be on later this evening. Hopefully some of these other guys can yump on tonight. Dan? Doc? Yonny? Posse? ...Where dafuq is Rabbit?

  • In reply to Shady:

    rabbit texted me today, he's at a conference for work. He'll be back later this week.

    Not sure when I'll be able to get on. It's taco tuesday at my local watering hole.

  • In reply to Shady:

    To pay for college I worked at this restaurant and helped out this head cook who called me Yonny instead of Juan or Juanito. He also called me Joto alot which made me laugh.

  • Appropriate for a man of many handles.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That's how I got sick (Nephews, not kids).

    Little bastards run around, jump on your lap, than cough right in your face. Everyone around me got sick. I lasted about a week but finally Emeren-C and OJ couldn't fend it off.

    Luckily, it timed perfectly with the combine, hence my Mayock-ish expertise now lol

  • dude, 3rd time in two months. 3. seperate. times.

    I'm pissed.

  • In reply to Shady:

    For some reason I'm just not feelin' it.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Speaking of fuck you Snow, Percy just made the College football HOF

    http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/tag/_/name/percy-snow

  • In reply to Shady:

    Not to rub it in but out driving today, i had to swerve to avoid hitting a coconut lying in the road...

  • Fighting robots for real. Shit or Not Shit?

    http://www.syfy.com/videos/Robot%20Combat%20League/Team%20Profiles/vid:2626632

  • In reply to gpldan:

    shit

  • here's one for you: http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/26/opinion/fisman-yahoo/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

    I say she doesn't have a job in 4 months. Talk about hanging your hat on a titanic of an idea. Wonder if Ican (he's still on the board right) pushed her into it. She's 37 and a brand new mommy.

    With that policy, she's fucked. What an inane idea. Good luck with that honey, you just got pawned.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    She built a nursery in the Yahoo building next to her office

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2284828/Marissa-Mayer-brings-baby-personal-nursery-built-office-telling-Yahoo-employees-longer-work-home.html

    What a fucking monster.com sized gaffe. Her compensation package exceeds $10M/yr, hire a fucking nanny to stay at home.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    it's just plain moronic. Pandora's box (hee hee) maing. It's how the workplace has evolved and now just... is. and you're a software/communication/online community company... what you're doing is telling people you're going back in time as a company and you're not eating your own dog food.

    No fucking way it's going to happen. they're be a mass exodus. And it's just idiotic. She got bad counsel. she won't make it 4 months if she doesn't fix this fast, and when she does fix it she'll look weak AND incompetent. It was a silly solution to a common problem.

    This is why I don’t think I can ever work for a big company again. Groupthing and politics takes the place of common sense and creativity.

  • I'll do a more comprehensive list, but this is just a cheat-sheet of locked top 10 prospects post combine (according to ole Butch):

    1. Joeckle. Actually didn't look as athletic as some of the other OTs, but when Armstead is running faster than all TEs, it's not as bad as it looks. His measurables and productivity are impeccable. Top 5 Chiefs, Philly even Detroit.

    2. CB Milliner. 4.31. He gone. He could have just kept running out of the building like Deon all the way to Philly or Detroit.

    3. DE/OLB Ansah. 6'6 270 and just blew away the combine like I predicted. Quite possibly a top 3 - Chiefs, Raiders, Jags.

    4. DE/OLB Jordan. Another 6'6 kid who actually ran a faster 10yd split then Ansah. Comparisons to Aldon Smith abound here, and he's gonna be swooped. Browns and Jets would love this kid.

    5. DT Floyd. Ran like a 4.8 and just looked smoothed and quick-twitched. Best 3-tech. Not sure where he lands though since 3-4 teams won't covet him as much and Lions are set at DT, but someone will most likely trade up for him.

    6. DT Richardson. Another athletic 3-tech. His numbers weren't all that great but he knocked it out of the ball park with the position drill. Like Floyd, not sure where he lands due to scheme, but maybe a 3-4 team makes him a DE.

    7. OT Fisher. Just really athletic and fluid. He looked better than Joeckle in the combine, but he didn't play against elite competition so a little bit more of an unkown than him. Still, solid franchise LT. Philly, Cards or Chargers at 11.

    8. OG Warmack/and/orCooper. Warmack didn't hurt himself in the combine, which is to say that many still regard him as the best OG. Cooper did nothing but help himself, running fast (5.07) and benching 35 reps (and coming in at 311). Depending on oline philosophy, this might be one of those rare years when an OG gets drafted in the top 10. Ten at 10 or SD at 11.

    9. OT Johnson. Where were these OTs last draft? Johnson ran in insane 4.72 (2nd fastest Oline 40 behind Armstead) and looked like a 300 pound TE blocking and moving. Too much upside here to escape Top 10 (or Chargers at 11).

    10. QB Geno Smith. He's not worth it, but QB need in the NFL is like crack - someone's willpower shall cave. Smith ran a 4.59 which will appeal to the trendy read-option NFL (even though Smith wasn't a read-option QB). Most likely candidates. Cards, Bills (Surprise team Raiders, Browns, Jets or some team trading up)

  • So what's left for us?

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Glad you asked.

    See below.

  • BOO!

    http://www.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1271873!img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/confphotos24f-8-web.jpg

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Sorry, I thought it was Halloween.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    hahaha

  • In reply to gpldan:

    First fear-boner induced by a woman.

  • ok, now this girl is STUNNING!

    http://www.mandatory.com/2013/02/25/anna-grigorenko-is-a-ukrainian-knockout/1#photo=1

    I think I need to visit Ukrainia soon.

    (jesus, yes I know it's not called Ukrainia)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Do a search. There's pics from a Playboy spread she did last year...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Link me tobi!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    My old room mate had some Ukranian stories, let me tell you.

    Long story short. Ukrane has the hottest girls who love Americans with money, or just Americans because they assume every American has money.

    HOWEVER, the hotels over there are scary and probably inspired the movie "Hostel".

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Mila Kunis is Ukrainian born. Wasn't she voted sexiest woman alive, or something?

    http://machoclothingco.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/mila-kunis-interview-magazine-05.jpg

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Wiki says she was born in Chernivtsi, Ukraine. Mother was a physics teacher; father a mechanical engineer. Came here at the age of 7. According to wiki:

    "...On her second day in Los Angeles, Kunis was enrolled at Rosewood Elementary School not knowing a word of English. She later recalled: "I blocked out second grade completely. ...I cried every day. I didn't understand the culture. I didn't understand the people. I didn't understand the language. My first sentence of my essay to get into college was like, 'Imagine being blind and deaf at age seven.' And that's kind of what it felt like moving to the States...""

    Smart, wealthy, beautiful, soon to be 30 yo, and your only competition, MB, is another meatball Bears fan.

  • seriously? gross: http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Kim+Kardashian/Kim+Kardashian+Kanye+West+Miami+2/bhd9I0nGS-2

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Bedunkadonks have short shelf-lives.

    http://www.comedycentral.com/video-clips/s6ew40/chappelle-s-show-i-know-black-people-pt--1

  • hilarious. Loved that show.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Pimping ain't easy! just ask Big Daddy Kane.

    Favorite Big Daddy Kane song, "I get the job done!" (That would be my Kim K line).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_21NzpafU9o

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That back view pretty much took all the fun out of her front view...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    yeah, so nasty.

    she's not bootylicious or baby ain't got back... ready for it... ready? reeeeady?

    She's fucking FAT. She has a FAT ass. She's overweight.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyZD-qSJoLw

    Good old fashioned pancake butt, like mom used to make.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    There is absolutely nothing gross about Kim besside her vapid personality and everything she represents. Ok so there's nothing PHYSICALLY gross about her.

  • yes, yes there is my man. She has a huge flabby ass.

    Sorry maings. I said it. She's fat.

    There's a difference.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I do think her face and tits are hot if it helps.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You're telling me that if Kim K would walk up to you in a club in a short skirt and hooker heals with her cleavage all glittery and her pout lips, you'd say, "no thanks, tubby"?

    I call B.S.

    I would totally BANG the shit out of her.

    My only turnoff really is that a bunch of rap star (not to mention Reggie Bush) have hit it. And she's recently had a baby.

    But a 6 pack of Old Rasputin would make me forget all about that.

    Bang! Bang! (literally)

  • Prospects that will likely go 11-25 (in no discernible order). One of these guys will fall to us. Have at it.

    11. Warmack or Cooper. One will fall out of the top 10.

    12. WR Patterson. Arguably the top WR in the draft. 6'2 215 runs 4.42. Very raw, but explosive like Demaryius Thomas/Stephen Hill.

    12. WR Allen. 6'3 210 Didn't participate in the combine, but perhaps the most polished WR who can excel in WCO and route running.

    13. S Vaccarro. His productivity and athleticism is coveted especially since he can cover TEs and even WRs.

    14-15. CB Rhodes or Trufant (Maybe both). Both are rising up draft boards and the 2nd/3rd best CBs usually go in the teens early 20s. Rhodes is 6'1 ran 4.43. Trufant is 6'0 and ran a 4.38. A lot of big bodied CBs this draft which will appeal to many teams. Can also eventually replace Peanut.

    16. DE/OLB Mingo. 6'4 240 ran a 4.53. Just too athletic for a team to skip. The need for pass rushers might push him up.

    17. OT Fluker. Just a mammoth man in the mold of Andre Smith for the Bengals. I don't like his feet, at all, but they say his 36 inch arms make up for it. They say.

    18. DE Werner. 6'3 266 ran a 4.8. As Mayock described him "A poor man's Chris Long" which translates to "Solid, effort guy who can start but no huge impact" - sort of a rookie Izzy, but less athletic and less sack capable. Again, pass rush need pushes him up.

    19. WR Austin. Dude is CRAZY fast. 4.34. 14 reps (which was more than some TEs). He's got the quickness of Welker with the speed of Wallace. Compared to DeSean Jackson minus the douchiness. Major drawback - he's a smurf. 5'7 175.

    20. TE Eifert. Separated himself from Ertz in the combine. 4.63, 22 reps, natural hands. The thing is, Coby Fleener was faster and stronger than Eifert, and he got drafted in the 2nd. Also, Eifert compares to Greg Olsen. If that's the case, better off just trading next year's 3rd to get Olsen back.

    21, 22, 23. ILB Oggletree, Minter, Te'o. You ever play craps? Roll the dice. Oggletree's the most athletic, but according to a GM who interviewed him "an immature idiot." Minter's character is clean, but slow (4.8) and on the short side. Te'o is not only slow (4.82) but seems to choke, be a scam artist, or liar, or dumb, or gay or all the above.

    24-25. DT Star/DE Jones. Wild Cards. I put them here because they both have medical concerns. If a team gives them the OK, they can easily go top 10. If not, they may end up in this range or fall to the 3rd or worse. I still believe that some team will gamble on their talent. Would you at this range?

  • Butch, is the opinion you've expressed on these guys in terms of their ranking your own or is this more a consensus of the so-called "professional" evaluators?

  • The rankings I think are almost set in stone at this point, meaning that the Top 10 locks will most likely be locks, it's just a matter of which teams want who.

    The 11-25 is a bit more fluid. A few "risers" might sneak up, and some other guys (like Werner) might fall, but all those guys are slated to go about that range by most experts (Mayock, Nawrocki, etc).

    The numbers are straight from the NFL.coms scouting combine page, as for the evaluations I pretty much summarized a lot of the experts (who are in the loop of what GMs, Coaches and Scouts are saying) with a little of my own evaluations (like with Fluker).

    Mostly, I just put the consensus out there for us.

    Personally, I would rank certain guys higher and lower (like I did with Ansah before he blew up the combine), but what good does that do anyone!? When I become Bear GM, maybe then lol

  • And that makes my point I posted earlier. There's a lot of flexibility in the first round at 20. We can trade down and try to get back into the third round and still get a solid talent.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I agree. The problem is EVERYBODY wants to trade down and what prospects are worth trading up for at 20?

    Maybe if S Vaccarro falls, or someone like Star Louteleli or Jones is on the board and the Bears haven't cleared them medically, but another team has.

    I just don't see it. We also must remember that GB sits at #26, and would we really feel comfortable picking behind them? Maybe. But they need Oline too and may grab one just to screw us over.

    If we do trade into the late 1st we can possibly trade down again because I do expect teams to want to trade back into the late 1st for a QB before the Chiefs in the 2nd (I know they're gonna get Alex Smith, but I wouldn't doubt that they go for Barkley in the 2nd).

    Two trade downs would all be guarantee us a solid C/OG, OT, ILB, TE.

  • shady... that was AWESOME!

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