Bears Should Franchise Tag Henry Melton

Bears Should Franchise Tag Henry Melton

Devin Hester and Brian Urlacher are not financial decisions for Phil Emery and the Chicago Bears. Neither breaks the economic bank because neither poses a make-or-break impact on the 2013 season. Hester could certainly be a productive kick return and Urlacher would stabilize the middle of the defense but if Marc Trestman is relying on either to return to an All-Pro level for a postseason trip he is sorely misguided in his roster analysis.

Henry Melton is an emerging star at defensive tackle and the Bears can address his future with the organization with one of three approaches:

While Henry Melton will assuredly not want to be franchised, franchising him is exactly what the Bears should do. (Side note: I don't understand why the NFLPA allowed the franchise tag to stay in place only to have every single player complain once it is applied. What's the point of having labor negotiators for a worthless union? We had a punter last year complain about the tag!)

Melton is a terrific player. His thirteen sacks over the last two seasons show the promise of a player capable of anchoring a defensive line for the better part of a decade. But how does one know if Melton - whose transition to and development at DT is credited equally to Lovie Smith and Rod Marinelli - is truly an emerging Warren Sapp or a product of the system and coaching staff? Until Melton has produced outside the DT/sack friendly confines of the Tampa-2 how can the Bears know whether he is worth the long-term financial commitment he is seeking this winter?

Melton is a terrific player but is he a consistently dominant one? (Look no further than Cincinnati and Geno Atkins to see a player who alters the opposition's offensive game plan on a week-by-week basis for an example of such.) Melton is not that player...yet. While the statistics are starting to lean in his favor the eyeball test reveals Melton is only occasionally disruptive. But don't think the Bears aren't aware that Atkins is entering the final year of his rookie contract and could demand upwards of $10 million per moving forward. If they do not hammer out an agreement with Melton and his production increases in 2013, the price tag could be significantly higher.

Is it a risk? Yes. But it is a risk the Bears should take.

The defensive tackle in the modern day NFL is not a statistic-driven position. As the league has moved to the 3-4 in an overwhelming fashion the best DTs in that alignment - Wilfork, Ngata, Hampton - thrive on their ability to disrupt opposing run games and OCCASIONALLY attack the quarterback. Those three in particular make the most out of limited opportunities to rush the passer. The 4-3, Tampa 2 tackle surges through a gap and attack the quarterback. Melton may be the second best in football currently. But the Bears can't be swayed to overpay a player based on a dearth of talent at his position.

Melton is a terrific player and he should be a member of the Chicago Bears in 2013. Whether he's a member of the organization in 2014 and beyond should still be up for debate.

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  • Tag him if there is no way they can sign a longer deal. I'm guessing they will try to sign him to a 4-5 year deal with the avg annual salary around the tag figure ($32-$40 mil with about half guaranteed. The arrow is pointing up for him. Those are the guys you must sign.

  • Agreed.

  • What is this, tag football?

  • In reply to Aquinas wired:

    really? smh

  • In reply to Aquinas wired:

    He's a football theologian I guess.

    Wasn't it Aquinas who said, "If God is for us, who can be against us?" while lifting up a Lombardi?

    Oh, no, that was Saint Ray Ray...

  • God must have been conflicted.

    On one hand, the Niners have Red and Gold - traditionally the Pope's color combo. Yet purple and black is also VERY Catholic.

    Who, indeed, Ray Ray - could be against you?

  • Grammy's were shitty as usual but I always watch (insanity??). The Black Keys, the mashup for Bob Marley and the mashup for The Band (Levon Helm), were the highlights. Other than that it was pretty flat. Tons of ballads and waaaaaaaaay too many Country acts.

    For the life of me I can't figure out why anyone gives a shit about Taylor Swift. She can't sing and is boring as hell. Why anyone would go out with her is a mystery. Once you breakup with her (which is an eventuality because she's a professed virgin) she's going to write a nasty song about you. Uh, no thanks. Usually there is at least one moment when something really embarrassing (Frank Sinatra drunk as Otis Campbell) happens or a transcendent music collaboration (George Clinton/Red Hot Chili Peppers) that makes the show worth watching. Last night, not so much.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Grammys? They still have those?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Yes they do Al. Last night was the 55th annual.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Not much for award shows, Canada. WAY too many and I especially avoid the freak show that is the Grammys .

    The only one I used to really care about was OSCAR. Used to make an evening of it with friends over & keeping a scorecard, etc.

    Now, even that's a big "Who cares?" with so many nominees I never saw (or never WANTED to see) and all the nauseating, self-serving political posturing.

    And no, I've never watched the ESPYs, either.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    The Grammy's changed a few years ago. Way more performances and fewer awards. Good in theory but not so great if the bands playing aren't your cup of tea. I would never, ever in a million years think you watched the ESPY's. BTW, that's a compliment!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I heard Dr. John got best blues album. Have you heard it? Is it worth buying?

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    I watched the Grammy's for the first time in about 20 years last year and most of it sucked. The only reason I watched it about 20 years ago was because they had Metallica playing. First time a metal act ever performed at the Grammy's. And yes, you are insane to watch it every year.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    If I remember correctly they had Metal bands on before Metallica but they always pussed out and played a ballad. Metallica came out and played Metal. Bless their hearts.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Cock rock hair bands like Motley Crue or Poison don't count. I wouldn't call bands like Guns and Roses or Def Leopard metal either. Maybe hard rock, but not metal. It's funny how back in the early 80's me and friends at school were considered radical for jamming out to bands like Metallica, Anthrax, Megadeth, Slayer, etc. I was really cool rocking out my blue jean jacket with a huge Iron Maiden patch (Piece of Mind) on the back. Now all those bands are considered mainstream.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    GAAAASSSP!!!!

    Motely crue and Poison don't count?!?!?!?!

    Dude, they may not be 'metal' but they are both so much better than Metallica. Those guys are a bunch of fucking morons. Dude they sued some of their fans for downloading their music online.

    some cats just. don't. get. it. Jesus chris, talk about ignorant ingratitude.

    (ok, rant over. I hate those buffoons)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm talking about them and not you btw.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I don't listen to much metal anymore, but Metallica was great up until the Black album. I agree they are asshats now. Motley Crue's first two albums were good, but never liked Poison. The point was they are not metal bands. I've seen all of the bands mentioned above live, most of them several times, and Metallica used to kick ass in the 80's and early 90's. Motley and Poison in concert were more about jumping around and posing than playing good music. Never got into the guys dressing like chicks thing and using more hairspray that most women. Tommy Lee is a good drummer, but Mick Mars on guitar was horrible back in the day in concert. A guitar solo consisted of strumming the strings and using his wah wah bar to make a bunch of shitty distortion.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    All fair points corm.

    But quick pop quiz for the match....

    Which concert has the hottest chicks?

    Oh, and lastly... I don't need nuthin'... but a gooood time!

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    Every Rose Has Its Thorn. And how bout I Remember You by Skid Row? High school would not have been the same without them for me.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    The cock rock bands always had the hottest and skankiest chicks. I grew up by Alpine Valley, so that's why I would go to the shows. And to sell drugs in the parking lot and party. I remember a World Series of Rock concert with all the hair bands, and this hot chick was wearing those silky shorts and a cut up shirt to show off everything. I came up behind her and goosed her pussy. She thought it was "cute".

    The hottest chicks though are at the country concerts or James Taylor.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If you think Poison is better than Metallica, you may have a crack-rock problem.

    Cry Tough.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    Fuck it, they were all Sabbath wannabes anyway. Every one of them.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Sabbath was the shit.

    I liked all that shit when I was a youngster. Loved it. Still listen to some of it, but most didn't stand the test of time. Mettallica (Pre black-Album), ACDC (Bon Scott era the first two Brian Johnson Albums), Def Leppard (Pre Pyromania), Motley Crue (Pre Dr. Feelgood), are among a few that stood the test of time.

    I theorized about why Metal/Hard Rock bands rarely continue making good albums the way other bands do. I surmised that it's like this. Young hard rock bands are usually angry at something. Then they make bitchin music that expresses that rage. Then, they get rich and all kinds of free flying gratis pussy (I know), and then when they go back in to record, they find that the rage has subsided and they can't manufacture that same kind of rage filled angst. So their subsequent albums just seemed contrived and forced.

    That's why Rage Against the Machine was so great. Anger at the government only increases with age.

    Guns n Roses was great in any era (with Slash).

  • SC and Doc, Sabbath was the first band I got into. My good buddy had Black Sabbath / Black Sabbath and Ozzy Blizzard and Diary. He also had Highway to Hell. At the time I was still a goody two shoes, but loved this music. At sleep overs, we would stay up late with the lights off quietly jamming out to this music. I still love the Sabbath, Ozzy, and Bon Scott AC/DC. Randy Rhoads was my guitar hero when I was 12 or 13.

    Dave, I know you love the classical music. Here's two of my favorite Ozzy songs with Randy on guitar. Beethoven would have been proud.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiEJOzAVAXc

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4np-ioMkiio

  • Man, I hate to even bring up the bands I listened to growing up (Nysnc and Backstreet Boys) Let the jokes begin but if your around my age or grew up in the 90's, you can still get a girl to sleep with you if you play one of their songs. Maybe I was just good looking and it worked..

    However, that's pretty much it when it comes to music from the 90's. My grandfather really got me hooked onto music he grew up with Elvis, Fleetwood Mac, Eagles, Bob Seger, Righteous Brothers, Eddie Rabbit, Garth Brooks, and many more that I can't think off the top of my head.

  • Appetite is one of the best rock albums ever. Metallica up to Load/Re-Load were untouchable. Maiden represented the early wave of British metal but probably have Sabbath to thank for paving the way. Motorhead brought us the pain. Good times.

    As for Linkin' Park and all the child-bands that followed ....

    Metal up your arse!

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Saw Black Sabbath in a Dubuque, Iowa H.S. gym back in '72. They were fucking awesome! At the end of the show they polled the audience what song they wanted to hear. It came down to 2 and they played both of 'em. I'm sure they repeated the same schtick every night but it was a nice gimmick. I hitchhiked to and from the show (about 75 miles, each way). Being a hippie back then was beyond fun.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Paranoid

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    So, I guess I didn't miss anything, again.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    I've never seen the Grammy's. Ever. I remember Jethro Tull beating Metallica in some category and reckoned never the twain shall meet. I never understood how the winners won.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    Last night was the first I've heard of it. If I get it, I'll let you know.

  • Hester has another year on his contract, so his choice is either play or retire, the Bears could trade him or release him. Too bad Devin didn't have about 3 return TDs last year. We may have been able to trade him to a team that's desperate to fill seats, like the Jags. As it is he is pretty worthless. Maybe Emery can pull a rabbit out of the hat again and trade Hester for Marcedes Lewis straight up, then convince Jake Long to sign for 3 mil a year and target a Guard in the draft!

  • http://siextramustard.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/kate-upton.jpg

    Ho-Ly-Sheite-Muslim! Wow.

    you are all welcome.

    And yeah, let's keep melt.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    My god I love women: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/video/si-video/20130211/2013-si-swimsuit-teaser.sportsillustrated/

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Gotta love the body painting section.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    God yes canada... I do! I do!

  • This is.... turrible: http://www.businessinsider.com/video-saturday-night-live-mocks-cbs-coverage-of-super-bowl-blackout-2013-2

    what has happened to SNL?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    TWO BROKE GIRLS!

    I laughed out loud. LOLed all over myself.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    There is only one good episode per year now. Kind of like sex with your ex-wife before you got divorced.

    (I keeeed, I keeed).

  • In reply to gpldan:

    and that didn't even happen.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    We got old.

  • If Melton is tagged does he hold out?

    The Blackhawks are doing a great job of keeping me from
    "sports depression".

    Speaking of the Def Line, do we keep Amobi Okoye and Nate Collins? The defensive looked pretty good last year and I believe Amobi was on a 1yr deal and I think Nate played for a used BMW. Both would be pretty cap friendly allowing us to address the huge fucking gaping hole that is OL and TE.

  • Collins and Okoye might make the team, but they are both just waiting to lose their jobs. Emery and Trestman (like any other coaching staff) will always look to replace guys like that with young prospects. It just depends who we draft and who we bring in in FA.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Okoye is 26 I think and played through a knee injury this year so I think he will step up next year and contribute even more.

  • Who lit that fire under Patrick Kane...?!

    Last time the Hawks started out like this was...er..um..oh yeah, NEVER!

    And who is that guy wearing #50 and what have you done with Corey Crawford?

  • Overrated. Showed flashes, but never consistantly domnant like Peppers whom Melton benefits from by seeing 1on1. Stop pouring money into the D line, especially for a 3 tech, and start using that money to protect the franchise. Let the Cowboys overpay for Melton.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Oooooh... I can actually get behind this POV. I kind of agree.

  • In reply to Shady:

    So much depends on our new DC.

    Old Sauce needed penetration from the 3 spot. Had. To. Have. It. Cause he was only sending 4 most of the time, save when Briggs came in and nose dived from Sugar.

    Now? Who the fuck knows? Maybe we will blitz like a mother fucker, have all these weird sets and rely on girth and not slant in.

    Either way, you got Paea and Melton who are both speed/slant-in tackles, so you need to make due with what you got until you can change it - but let's see what the DC wants and tag Melton for one year and go from there.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I agree with your approach, Doc. Melton and Paea are both decent football players, and we do need to see what happens with the D next season before getting too crazy.

    The notion of tagging Melton is good and in theory will allow focus on the Oline, as many of us have been pleading for four or more years on this very blog.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Um... Doc? Gawd - I should never post when I cant proof. Way too poor a memory for that! Sorry GP.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I wouldn't be against the tag, per se, but I would prefer size up front. Keith Traylor, Ted Washington come to mind, but the Bears need a guy up front as a run stopper who can occasionally break free and sack the QB. Wilfork and Ngata are dominant run stuffers who can still get after the passer. There are a couple guys the Bears could draft in the same mold without paying through the nose. No pun intended.

  • In reply to Shady:

    If your litmus test to sign a DL is Pep, we won't sign another one for a decade. Paea and Melton are the only DT's that did anything last year. Izzy may end up there if we re-sign him. Okoye, Collins and Toenia were just avg at best.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I'm saying Julius Peppers makes life a lot easier for other guys on that line, including Mr. Melton.

  • In reply to Shady:

    +1

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I thought Izzy stepped up and would like to see him re-signed.

  • Agree sir.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Gotta like Izzy. He's accomodated the teams needs whenever they've asked without complaint.

  • Totally agree!

  • ze germans

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKrHnYexBic

    Crazy fucker

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Nice grouping

  • speaking of grammy's... there is just something so appealing about kate perry to me... I can't place my face in them... I mean finger on it, but it's definitely somethings.

    http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/awards/katy-perry-dress-distraction-grammys-red-carpet-015636093.html

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    she looked like a Now and Later piece of candy.....that I wanted to titty bang.

  • oh god yes. I would wear her ass like a fucking hat man... a beanie mostly.

    So incredibly hot.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ass hat.

  • In reply to Shady:

    yes.

    maybe a a balaclava actually.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    just realized that this is under the kate perry link... I was talking about my girl kate UPTON.

    Perry is sexy too though

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    As long as she doesn't sing (or whatever you call what she does).

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Check out the photo of her that hubby Russell Branded tweeted about five in the morning once upon a time. I believe it directly caused the divorce. She's a dog.

    http://www.inquisitr.com/94352/katy-perry-no-makeup/

    Makeup is the devil's camouflage.

  • Wait, she has a face?!

  • per Brad Biggs
    Completing #Bears positional reviews, looking at lots of data. Here is a tight end nugget that is very interesting:
    In the analysis by Pro Football Focus of the position, Kellen Davis ranks near the bottom, which is what you would expect after a poor season for him that he acknowledged wasn’t good enough.

    What might surprise you – a lot – is that Matt Spaeth ranked seventh overall. Yes, 7th.

    Spaeth was considered the best run blocker at the position in the entire league by PFF. He was tied for 16th in terms of pass blocking and while he was barely involved as a receiver, the data added up to rank him 10th. Now, I am sure everyone would prefer to have players that ranked below Spaeth on the roster – guys like Jimmy Graham, Vernon Davis, Greg Olsen, Kyle Rudolph, Delanie Walker and Owen Daniels among many – but it is evidence that in his role, Spaeth performed well. He’s never going to be a playmaker as a receiver, but asked to block, he blocked well.

    The tight ends analysis will be out later this week and cornerbacks are up Monday. Check out ProFootballFocus.com for more of their information.

  • Naw, I'd hate to have vernon davis. Fuck me... dude's a BEEEEAST!

    Actually, I was often as or more impressed with Delanie Walker (#46 for the 9ers)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Delanie should be available.

    Spaeth is not a weapon and we need a weapon at TE.

    West Coast offenses need pass catching TE's, not TE's who can catch a pass one in a while.

  • We also need guys that can block.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I saw him LAY a motherfucker out in the SB for a TD. Can't remember who, but he made the block that got dude in. He's a stud man. I would take him in a heartbeat.

  • Delaine is only 6'0. And drops more balls than a hooker at a Sheen porn party.

    He's more of an H-back, and supposedly we have one of those (what a wasted draft pick).

  • I didn't watch closely enough all year, but I did watch like 2.5 games and the dude ALWAYS made plays. Enough to get me to notice.

    Agree on the halfback thing, but what has having a 6'7" beast done for us? Agree on the draft pick... would MUCH rather have kept clutts. Talk about waste.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think I read somewhere in my due diligence that Delaine had 11 drops. That's Kellen Davis territory.

    So between that and being 6'0 you can forget about him being a TE.

    I'd be more than fine with him as H-back, but again, no way Emery dumps A-rod yet, so there goes that plan.

  • http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/nfl/rumors/post?id=1584

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9761/delanie-walker

  • I want a pass catching TE who can block a bit when needed and who can hurt the other team in the seam like Dezzy and Olsen used to.

    Spaeth is not the worst TE i've ever seen, he's just not a threat or even a safety valve like other teams have.

    Kyle Adams, when compared to mere mortals who are not in the NFL, is a badass. Kyle Adams, when compared other NFL TE's is pedestrian at best.

    KD must have had a bad lower back all year because he played like Frankenstein and fucking ruined play after play after play.

  • it's pretty simple with that guy... he can't catch.

    He should put on 50LBs and try to be a LT... you know... for someone else.

  • You guys over at PFF do know that you have to use Spaeth's stats from 2012 with the Bears and not when he was in college right?

    Also, stats and rankings don't mean shit if your overall impact in the flow of the game is non existent except for that fucking awesome catch he had against Minny.

  • As they say in the Godfather, "Leave the gun, take the canoli"

    In this instance, Davis is the gun, Spaeth the canoli.

    No secret we need a pass catching TE, and I'm very curious who they're targeting.

    FA has some very solid options...Fred Davis, Keller, Cook, Myers.

    Then there's the draft, but I don't think we should use a 1st rounder on a TE. If you read the scouting reports, Eifert is frequently compared to...Greg Olson. We drafted Olsen in the 20s and only got a 3rd for him in return. Screw that. Ertz is compared more to Witten, which I like, but Witten doesn't stretch the seems, and we need that more than a safety valve, though I wouldn't mind Ertz at all in the 2nd. There's some hidden gems at TE in the later rounds, but when the combine comes, they might not be so hidden anymore.

    Long story short, Emery should get an FA TE - quality for cheap, plus allow us more freedom in the draft for other positions like LB, WR, and OT, C/G...

    For instance, let's say we get lucky and land Lane Johnosn (OT) in the first... and in the second there's two guys - TE Ertz and C/OG Cooper - if we have a Dustin Keller in our hip pocket, then we can get Cooper instead of trying to fill a need, which is the best way to go.

  • I think I just got the opposite of a fear-boner

  • People give Olsen a tough time but with Cutler, Olsen, Forte and Bennett, the worst O line I've ever seen talent wise and combined with an offense from 1996 we got to the NFC Championship game.

    Olsen and Bennett were chain movers and Forte was pass catching out of his mind.

  • Almost choked to death on my coffee laughing at that 1996 line...which is kinda depressing really.

  • Jimmy Graham had a bad case of "The Drops" this season.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Graham had a broken hand for most of the season, but played through it and still was the best TE

  • Franchising Melton is a no-brainer if a deal doesn't get done. We don't need to add DT to the list of shit we must get in the draft.

    I just wonder how much Melton is asking for.

    Top 5 DT I'm guessing.

    I also think we're going to keep Collins but let Amobi walk. I agree with some of you guys who think we should get a big fat DT who can take on double teams and gobble up the middle especially in goaline situations. Remember how the 9ers just bitch slapped us on the lines?

    Paea is supposed to be that guy, but he just doesn't have enough girth, even though he's strong. We can get a 340 behemoth late in the draft or even in UFA.

  • Weird stat:

    Collins and Okoye are both 25yrs old.
    Both are 6'2
    Both are 296lbs
    Both are cheap depth that can actually play a bit.

    I say keep them both and get a FA to replace Toeina.

    Pep, Izzy, Woot, Chicken, Melton, Okoye, Collins and one more huge dude to be named later.

  • I like it.

  • http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/11/bills-give-nick-barnett-his-walking-papers/

    Here's a guy that we'll probably take a look at. Solid linebacker depth at worst, possible starter with Briggs and whoever plays MLB at best.

    Likely contact price: $1-2 million. That's a great pickup.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    That's what happens when you saddle yourself with Super Mario.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Nick would be super motivated twice a year to play the Pack. He was none too happy about his departure.from the one stoplight and no running water town that is GB.

  • Dude played in all 16 games last year with 130 tackles, 3 sacks, 3 picks, etc.

    Did he get hurt this past weekend? Why would they dump him unless his contract is about to get heavy because of incentives he hit?

  • apparently he was poor in pass coverage, but seeing as no-one in their right mind has watched a Bills game from the past season that could be made up.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    ahhh, i could see that being the case. Big fast athletic pass catching TE's are the future of the game. Let's get one!....again.

    I don't know who it was or what article it was but it was referring to the eventual evolution of the Nickel Back into a 6'0 to 6'2 225-230 lb LB type that can run with these new kinds of TE's yet stop the run if needed.

  • Oh, that was me...

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Just kidding, but I think we had some talk about 4-2-5 defenses last fall.
    There has got to be an evolution at a couple of D positions in order to deal with the changes in WR, TE, QB skill-sets.

    Although...and I admit I had ESPN playing in the background today, I heard that dumb-f9ck SAS talking about how a team with a drop back passer could not win in the NFL anymore...

    Well, jackball, I hate to tell you but Joe Flacco isn't exactly Randall Cunningham. He's a bailout runner, not RGII.

  • One thing to keep in mind, he played for Wanny last year. Hard to evaluate ANYONE when the line up for Wanny.

  • They dumped him because he sucks a XL sized bag of dicks.

  • Not according to PFF, the Emery bible.

    "Bills released WLB Nick Barnett.
    The move clears Barnett's $3.5 million base salary off the books and frees up just over $3 million in cap room. Barnett turns 32 in May, but graded out as a top-ten 4-3 outside linebacker in Pro Football Focus' 2012 ratings and should have some gas left in the tank. He's also "scheme versatile," having played in both 3-4 and 4-3 schemes. We suspect Barnett will find a starting job in 2013."

    http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/255523/cowboys-still-focused-on-extending-tony-romo?rw=

  • hmmm, it looks like you cock blocked Coach's cock comment.

  • http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/40427c7af8/between-two-ferns-oscar-buzz-edition-part-1?rel=player

    "you should be off pudding!"

    Dude, I LOLed.

    also, Chris Waltz is a complete fucking badass.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Oh, and ann hathaway is a troll. God what a terrible haircut

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    cinnamon muff

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    ha, i think she cut it off during a scene in Les Mis .....

    she is a great actress though.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Waltz is fantastic, can't believe it took him until Inglorious to make a name for himself.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Inglorious was his first American movie numb nutz

  • Yes and he clearly had the talent to do one earlier.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Not according to PFF, the Emery bible.

    "Bills released WLB Nick Barnett.
    The move clears Barnett's $3.5 million base salary off the books and frees up just over $3 million in cap room. Barnett turns 32 in May, but graded out as a top-ten 4-3 outside linebacker in Pro Football Focus' 2012 ratings and should have some gas left in the tank. He's also "scheme versatile," having played in both 3-4 and 4-3 schemes. We suspect Barnett will find a starting job in 2013."

    http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/255523/cowboys-still-focused-on-extending-tony-romo?rw=1

  • GNOOOOMEE!!!

  • On the subject of the D-line.

    At Defensive End we've got:
    Peppers
    Izzy
    Wooton
    Shea
    Ozougwu

    This year's draft is very talented at D-end. If we spend a 4th to pick up a solid prospect, who gets cut to make room? Ozougwu is the obvious choice, but he's entering his second season. Wooton is probably next, but he played great in 2012 and is further along. Shea was our first last year, not going anywhere.

    Does that leave Izzy out to dry? Emery took his time getting that contract done last year, but Izzy is one of our most reliable utility guys on the line.

    Do we look at some kind of trade package for one of the above mentioned?

    Or does Emery pull back the curtain and reveal that Shea is actually converting to linebacker after all?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Move Izzy to OT :-)

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I think it would lead us to release Wooton personally. He improved a lot, but if we brought in a guy who earned a roster spot at camp, I think Wooton is the first guy out the door.

    Unless we need cap space. Then we cut Izzy and keep Woot. Either way, a solid mid-range DE hits the market.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Really don't agree NB. Wooton was terrific last year. He was the most disruptive DE behind Pep and forced Izzy to the bench/DT. I don't think Izzy or Woot are going anywhere. I really don't see us doing anything at DE unless Chicken Dinner starts playing LB. Woot has 1 year left on his contract and it can't be a killer because he was a 4th rd pick. Also, Izzy wants to stay with the Beloved so I'm guessing he knows he won't break the bank.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Woot coming into his own. A guy with 1st rd talent that is now getting over injuries and fulfilling potential.

    Woot ain't goin nowhere no how.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Big Cat Williams did it.

  • Which one of our regs minored in poetry? I think it was one of the ...bears, dyl, New, Canada?

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    Prose before hoes.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Hahahahahah! awesome.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    God no, I did Chemical Engineering.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    Not me. The closest I've ever gotten to a poetry minor is playing piano in Asia Minor!

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    Well, OBVIOUSLY everything I know about poetry I learned from reading those Burma-Shave signs flashing by on US 41.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

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  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    I didn't major in poetry (rarely does anyone because never in the history of man has their been a "help: poet needed" in the job's listing), but I did major in Lit and know a lot about poetry. What happens is that poets now a days get herded into MFA programs where they dutifully make you write like all the other garbage out there.

    And let me tell you, a lot of Lit major themselves hated poetry, surprisingly. I actually spotted this one guy who had a "Fuck Poets" inscribed on his Wallace Stevens book he had to read for a class.

    Poets really are the rarest of all the literary breeds. They don't think like prosers in linear lines worrying about plot, arch, character development, conflict-climax-resolution, yada yada... and I've often found my favs never majored in Lit at all, but are closer to fringe people precipitously near mental illness.

    I think it was XJ Kennedy who once described one of my fav poems "The Wasteland" as an "edited mental breakdown" - and in fact, it was.

    Most poetry is an edited mental breakdown which only touches those who've had similar deep turmoil. That's why when the shit hit's the fan, most people don't quote "War and Peace" but "To be, or not to be..."

  • I have a cousin who is a poetry professor and has written a few poetry books. I don't understand what the hell he's talking about in any of his poems or interviews about his poems. He seems to thrive on anguish and distancing himself from any form of pop culture or media. Him and his wife seem to want to live in a cocoon of poetry and folk music. He's a pretty strange cat who distances himself from the outside world as much as possible.

  • Premonition
    by Robert Service

    ‘Twas a year ago and the moon was bright
    (Oh, I remember so well, so well);
    I walked with my love in a sea of light,
    And voice of my sweet was a silver bell.
    And sudden the moon grew strangely dull,
    And sudden my love had taken wing;
    I looked on the face of a grinning skull,
    I stained to my heart a ghastly thing.

    ‘Twas but fantasy, for my love lay still,
    In my arms, with her tender eyes aglow,
    And she wondered why my lips were chill,
    Why I was silent and kissed her so.
    A year has gone and the moon is bright,
    A gibbous moon like a ghost woe;
    I sit by a new-made grave to-night,
    And my heart is broken – it’s strange, you know.

  • Lit major, perfect! I know you are busy, but if you (and maybe Fifth) have a second - could you check the punctuation, flow, and turn of my poem and make sure it is a proper Italian sonnet?
    http://beardownblog.net/2013/02/11/a-chicago-bears-petrarchan-sonnet/

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    I liked it because I could understand it. But I'm far from a lit major.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    Thank you sir!

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    I think the last line is quite Shakespearean (or Petrarchean, if you please).

    "No matter the outcome, Bear the Fuck Down!"

    Italian Sonnets are harder to pull off because they require a stricter rhyme scheme and English doesn't have as many words that rhyme like the Romance languages (which is why The English changed the scheme, and now we have the "Shakespearean Sonnet"), so kudos on that.

    You do need to work on you're iambic pentameter though lol

  • Thanks for reading it! In laymen terms iambic pentameter is when not only the words rhyme, but they are stressed at the same syllable spot? I looked it up and it was all jargon...

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    OK, you're gonna have to bare with me a bit lol

    Iambic pentameter is a bit more hardcore, and rarely used any more, at least intentionally.

    Sonnets traditionally follow a few rules.

    A. 14 lines
    B. Rhyme structure (The English and Italian vary)
    C. Iambic pentameter (Mostly English)
    D. Two "segments"

    Iambic pentameter actually signifies two different aspects to speech.

    1. Feet.

    No, not the type Rex Ryans likes, but "Feet" in poetry stand for "stresses" like you said. All this means is that in English the words are naturally stressed - some syllables are more pronounced than others. So if you say, "yeah, Rodgers blows big cock" The "stress" will fall more or less on these capped sounds "yeah, ROD-gers-BLOWS-big-COCK." That's pretty much Iambic. The first sound (yeah) is "unstressed" while the second syllable (ROD) is more "stressed". If you keep repeating this pattern you eventually form a "meter".

    2. Meter.

    You can think of meter as how many times you use the foot pattern you established. For instance, in that sentence above I used Iambs (unstressed-stressed) and I used it three times 1.(yeah-ROD)2.(-ers SUCKS)3.(big COCK), so three in meter = TRI-meter (TRI meaning "3"). If I were to continue the pattern...

    "(Yeah, ROD)(-gers SUCKS) (big COCK) (too BAD) (for HIM)"

    See, I used the IAMB pattern 5 times here, hence "PENT-ameter (Pent meaning 5 like the pentagon).

    So if you add them together, feet + meter, you get iambic pentameter.

    In English, the most prevalent sound pattern is Iambic (unstressed-stressed), hence why it's favored. It's the most flexible and natural sounding.

    Its inverse "Trochaic" (stressed-unstressed) is second most widely used, however it has a more sing-songy feeling which is why most nursery rhymes are trochaic. Even the titles "Humpy Dumpty" "Little Bo Peep" "London Bridge" "Mary Mary Quite Contrary" "Ring around the Rosy"

    No meter is dominant because we don't speak in regular life in preconceived measurement (on game day, I'm reduced to one word monometer "SHIT!").

    Still, Pentameter fits the Goldi Lock zone, not too long, not too short, so it's often the most used in poems and sonnets since it too feels natural.

    Shorter "Meters" like trimeter (3 feets) and tetrameter (4 feets) are popular too, especially for ballads and songs.

    This whole process of determining Feet and Meter is called "Scanning".

    I know, I know...this is probably why people hate poetry - they get flashbacks from "The Wall" or something, but once gets the gist of it, it's really pretty fun. The main thing is you have to train your ear like a musician to tell which sounds are major and which are minor, which is hard to do in real life, but not when reading.

    Anyhow, like most worthy endeavors in life, it's an acquired taste and takes a little foot (pun intended) work.

  • And just to show that it's not all just Xs and Os, this little ditty can be the outcome of such knowledge (If you want, try your hand at "scanning it" - figuring out what feet and meter are used. Keep in mind almost no poem is totally "regular" meaning there will be some variation, but this poem is pretty regular).

    "This Be The Verse"

    They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
    They may not mean to, but they do.
    They fill you with the faults they had
    And add some extra, just for you.

    But they were fucked up in their turn
    By fools in old-style hats and coats,
    Who half the time were soppy-stern
    And half at one another's throats.

    Man hands on misery to man.
    It deepens like a coastal shelf.
    Get out as early as you can,
    And don't have any kids yourself.

    - Larkin

  • Wow, thanks for the info. That's a shitpotfull of information.

  • All I know is this: "(AAron) (RODgers) BLOWS) (big DICK). (Too BAD) (for ROD)gers."

  • If we sign Melton, where are we gonna get money for FA? We would seriously have to look at restructuring Pep, and we really got stung by Jennings hitting his contract escalators.

    If we do resign Melton, be it through the tag or a longtime deal, then I can see Hester and Davis getting the boot. Garza as well, that would free up around $5.5million.

    Other possible cuts would be Spaeth (saves roughly $1.5mil), Toeaina (saves $1.125M) and what would be the end of an era, Pat Mannelly (saves $940K).

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Not exactly. You are forgetting that for every player you cut, you have to sign somebody. The vet minimum is in the $700K range; unsigned rookies are closer to $400K. Cutting Mannelly saves maybe $500K, but is that really worth losing a game because of a bad snap?

    I've been thinking to post for a while about "true cap space" and what teams actually get to work with. If the cap is $120K, and you have nothing but salary minimum players on your 53 man roster, that puts you at approximately $30-35 million (assuming an average of vets and rookies) committed and $80-90 million free.

    When you look at that, and you start thinking to cut productive starters with $1 or $2 million contracts, you have to realize that each one of those important supporting cast members is really only taking up around $400K-1.25M in extra cap space. Not such a great gain.

    I'd love to have Peyton Manning, Adrian Peterson and Calvin Johnson on my offense, but that's a combined cap hit of around $45M-50M over the true cap.space And guess what? That team would probably such, because there would be no money to pay $1 million for a long snapper or $2.5 million for a possession receiver, or $3 million for a backup QB.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    This is true, but Garza and KD were awful last year and should be getting replaced anyway. If we drop Hester, we have Weems and possibly Knox (doubtful) to take over, as well as Bennett. Spaeth sticks imo. Toe is probably getting cut anyway as he was the inactive DL for the majority of the season. Mannelly is 38 this year and this may be the year to let him go (I think they keep him and he retires next year).

    So if we say that Garza ( saves $2.125M), Davis ($2.5M), Hester ($2.11M) and Toe get cut ($1.125M), then that gives us an additional $8.11M to spend. Now, as we already have a Hester replacement, we can use that money to sign OL to replace Garza, TE to replace Davis, and then replace Toe with a UDFA or someone on vet min who will be unlikely to play anyway.

    That will give us around $7M to spend on replacing Davis and Garza, as we subtract roughly 1 vet min contract + 1 rookie min. Throw in that we already have around $10.3 million to spend, plus we will likely get Peanut to sign an extension and restructure his pay, then we would have over $20M to replace Garza, Davis, sign our draft picks, UDFAs/vets to fill the end of the roster and add some more bodies on the OL.

    This total would increase even more if miraculously we can get Pep to restructure, but I'm assuming that won't happen.

    You are right in your last paragraph and therein lies the hidden dangers of the cap.The danger that would possibly arise from restructuring Pep is if/when we extend Jay + Marshall, we will have massive cap hits down the line again. The Lions are a great example. They have Suh, Johnson and Ellen Degeneres on the books for $50M in 2013!! This is the outcome of having multiple pre-cba high 1st round picks and restructuring.extending CJs contract. Hence why the Lions suck balls.

    I have confidence in Cliff Steins ability as a negotiator that we will not end up like Detroit though.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    This is why I love this blog. You know you're hard core when you start crunching cap numbers! Kudos to NBIT and DYL.

    This is also why as much as I like Campbell, not for $3.5M. That 3.5M can go TE to Louis, or even another C/G like that SD G Vasquez who actually graded higher than Louis. Possibly even a slot WR like Donnie Avery.

    I see major cuts coming and maybe even a few surprise cuts which will piss off many regs. Always happens with a new regime. Sometimes it's nothing more than a symbolic act (like when the Fins traded Marshall).

    Symbolism in FA.

    How about them apples?

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    "...we really got stung by Jennings hitting his contract escalators."

    That BASTARD,Jjennings!
    How DARE he excel !

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I am happy that he earned the money, it's good to see that we made him earn it rather than just giving him a lump sum in bonuses. Now this season will reveal whether or not he was motivated by those escalators.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Wasn't trying slam you DYL, but you laid that fastball right in my wheelhouse.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Hester and Davis are as good as gone. I think we're going to be losing a shit ton of guys we haven't even thought about yet. Lot of turnover this year fellows.

  • I have to disagree Coach, the Bears should have been in the playoffs for the last 3 years instead of just in 2010. Everyone knows this and I don't think you're going to see a mass jumping of ship.

    A few tweaks and we're easily 12-4 just like we were going to be this year until 3 dropped passes.

  • Should have scrolled down a bit, but yes, agree Coach.

  • One area where we can save some cash is backup QB. If we go with McCown and Blanchard. The only reason to re-sign Campbell for $3-$4 mil is if the front office wants to keep its options open in case they deem Cutler expendable after next season. Campbell would be familiar with the staff and would be an option to replace Cutler the following season. Who knows?

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    You are probably right, but I would be OK with $3.5 to have Campbell on the bench again.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Am I in the twilight zone?

  • I think it's bait.

  • lmao

    You're as insistent as Joe Pesci in "Casino". Good guy to have on your side, but a pain the the ass to everyone else!

    Bang Bang!

  • Sundance channel's airing CASINO these days (and I DO have it in my DVD library)

    Nicky (Pesci) and his brother meet a BAD end.

    Ace: "They buried 'em while they were still breathin."

  • "There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the...... Da Bears Blog.

    In doing the research to bastardize the above quote, I found 3 distinctly different opening narrations the 3rd of which also has 2 more slight variations.

    Rod Serling was one HELLUVA writer who, unfortunately like many men of his time, chain-smoked himself to death at age 50.

    "A former boxer, paratrooper and general all-around angry young man, Rod Serling was one of the radical new voices that made the 'Golden Age' of television. "
    - IMDb.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Amen Al...Amen.

  • Johnny I know we've had the worst 3 OC's in football the last 4 years but Cutler couldn't mesh with any of them. Some of that is on him. I know he has twice as much talent as Campbell but if he doesn't mesh with Trestman, they won't re-sign him. If that's the case, it would be smart to have a backup plan (pun intended, of course).

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Canada, mesh????

    Martz year 1 - Bears get to NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME

    Martz year 2 - Bears are 7-3 and making a run to the playoffs

    Tice year 1 - Bears finish 10-6 and miss the playoffs because of 3 dropped passes and Adrian Peterson running like the best RB of all time.

    At a certain point we are going to have to use some fucking common sense. Cutler is 28-14 in his last 3 years and the Bears could have easily gone to the playoffs in each of the last 3 years.

    Angelo tried his best to make this a perennial 7-9 team but it just hasn't happened.

    Even after the Bears mustered no offense for most of the last 20 years and never had a #1 WR or Top talent at QB they finally start making moves to get in the game like everyone else....

    While they are improving the QB position with the signing of Cutler they ignore OL and WR and sign Chester Taylor and Manumanumanu. When they address WR they ignore OL and rely on their OL coach turned OC to not only get the line playing like pros but also trying to learn how to be a fucking OC in the NFL at the same time? fucking come on.

    Now there are no excuses. The defense will still be solid. The WR corps has been addressed. The OL is so disastrous that it can't be ignored anymore and will be the emphasis ................. AND YET WE STILL TALK ABOUT THE QB.

    I can't fucking take it anymore.

  • Cutler might be 28-14 in his last 3 years, but I would love to see a Cutler breakdown of him against below avg teams, avg teams, and teams with winning records like they did with Lovie.

    My guess is that it mirrors Lovie, and we just terminated Lovie based on the "mediocrity is not sufficient" philosophy.

    many Lovie defenders are still out there, and they argue that it wasn't Lovie's fault the Angelo gave him crap to work with. Sound familiar?

    It's sort of hard knowing where Angelo ended and Lovie began, just like it's hard knowing where Lovie ends and Cutler begins, but we're going to get a real good indication this season since both the Angelo and Lovie variables are out of the equation. Only Cutler remains.

    Game on.

    (No excuses about being under a first year OC either since RG3 and Wilson looked elite under proper tutelage).

  • I get what you're saying here 4e but it gets a little foggy when we start to look at the caliber of teams the wins and losses come against. With the exclusion of teams that roll to 15-1 regular season records, any decent team is going to beat the shitty teams, beat some/most of the average teams and lose to some/most of the good teams. That's how you get to be 10-6. I know there are exceptions to this, big underdogs win from time to time. I don't think the perceived quality of the win necessarily tells you more about the quarterback play than watching the game itself. I still think the Bears recent inability to beat quality teams can be directly traced to Lovie and to a greater extent, Angelo.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    We all blamed Angelo, though some defended him. He's gone.
    Most then blamed Lovie/Martz/Turner - they're gone.

    Cutler looked rattled in the NFC Championship game, and looked rattled in almost every other game against the Pack who don't exactly trot out a dominant D. As a sure fire HOFer Woodson said, "Same ole Cutler."

    Cutler apologists will argue that his struggles are due to O.C. incompetence and horrible Oline and personnel, which is valid, but they must remember that Cutler's "It" factor, the one that wins championships, was always in question even in Denver when they did have a good oline, weapons and coaching.

    If the modern NFL has taught us anything, it's that a "marginal" QB during the regular season can win SBs (Eli, Flacco), but that "marginal" QB must be surrounded by quality and prove clutch.

    It's Emery's job to surround him with weapons and protection (Already started with B-Marsh, Alshon and Trestman).

    It's Cutler's job to prove clutch.

    Flacco threw for 11 TDs and 0 ints on his playoff run. Do we believe Cutler is capable of that? Can Cutler make those two throws Eli made in the SBs?

    Honestly, I'm just not sure. I hope so since I'm a Bears fan, but that's what Doc would label a "wishful fallacy".

    Cutler can be the next Eli-Flacco, or he could turn out to be yet another McNabb-Romo or countless other QBs who had the tools but never the "it". If Emery/Trestman suspects that, the Bears should have the guts to prepare accordingly.

    I'm sure a lot of Philly fans circa 2005 would think it crazy talk that McNabb wasn't a championship caliber QB, but few are denying that now

  • All good points. I can't decide whether I actually think Cutler has the "It' factor or

  • Dammit. Gnomed again.

    To finish, I may just want him to have "It" and thereby convince myself that he does.

  • Johnny you know I want Cutler to succeed as much as you. However, I'm not willing to just ignore his shortcomings. You talk about his record with the Bears. I'm guessing the W-L record of the Sex Cannon and Orton with the Bears is fairly similar. Just off the top of my pointy head here's a few things that Cutler has done that are more than a little questionable. He comes in and says Devin is not a go up and get it WR. Translation; unless it's right to him he's not going to catch it. Might be true but why would you say it? His INT that cost us the GB game. He throws a fit to try and blame Hester when he totally fucked up. I'm sure he was shocked when Devin stuck up for himself. That BS of bumping Webb. Do you think he would have tried that with Olin? That shit's just being a bully. He had no respect for any of the 3 OC's. Did they all suck? Yes. Does a leader act like a spoiled, petulant child around their boss? No. Telling Martz to fuck off was stupid. Same with walking away from Tice. The only OC that held his feet to the fire was Martz and that was the only time his mechanics were even decent. They did everything they could to make Cutler happy by bringing in his buddy to be QB coach and his favorite WR. Did it help? Nope. Our passing stats were worse last year than the year before. Being an asshole to the media and the refs is beyond stupid. He won't slide, he won't throw it away, he is completely reckless with the ball at times and due to horrible mechanics, has more INT's than he should. Is any one thing a big deal? No. All of it combined? Yes. Most of it says he's a bully who doesn't take responsibility for his actions and is a lousy leader. Not good.

    I know you'll have a ready rebuttal for all of this but you seemed to be shocked when I suggested he'd better mesh with Trestman or he'll be gone. The clock's ticking on him Johnny and if you don't believe that than you really do think denial is a river in Egypt.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I have a rebuttal to everything you said.

    Your "It" factor that you speak of is amusing when you apply it to the guys that have been labeled as the guys that have the "It" factor.

    Here is an example that I could duplicate over and over and over throughout the years with almost every QB that had success.

    Montana was a great QB, some say the best. Do you think it helped that he had one of the fucking greatest offensive minds in the history of the fucking league as his coach and playcaller? The guy that fucking invented the West Coast Offense? That was his coach for almost every fucking year he was in the league? WIth one of the most consistent offensive lines year in and year out ever?
    Do these names ring a bell?
    77 Bubba Paris T
    67 Billy Shields T
    68 John Ayers G
    61 Jesse Sapolu G
    56 Fred Quillan C
    51 Randy Cross G/C
    62 Guy McIntyre G
    71 Keith Fahnhorst T
    66 Allan Kennedy T

    With the greatest WR ever to put on shoulder pads? .....and Roger Craig, John Taylor, Rathman, Clark, Francis?

    Did you also know that in "one of the greatest seasons ever" for Montana going 15-1 that they won 7 of 16 games by less than 7 pts? So a little luck and a great D may have played a part?

    Montana was a great player but what happens if he doesn't have probowlers and Hall of Famers at handfuls of positions, a HOF coach and Offensive playcaller, etc. Does he succeed the way he did? If he has Johnny Knox as his number 1 instead of Jerry Rice and Olin at the end of his career as his Center instead of McQuillan and Randy Cross does that make a difference? Mike Tice instead of Bill fucking Walsh? Hester instead of Taylor?

    Far too often we find ourselves comparing other guys on other teams and then projecting their success onto our team and then complaining that our guy just doesn't have "It". What does the "It" mean exactly? Does it mean intangibles or does it mean the pieces that are necessary for win consistently in a team game?

    Has a top talent ever gotten into it with a coach? I've seen Brady scream until spit hit his coach's face, Rivers give the old fuck off to his head coach, Flacco got his coach fucking fired mid season, Raperberger called out his coach in the middle of his season for shitty playcalling, McMahon used to fucking IGNORE his coaches and their playcalls, Namath used to show up hung over for games. Cutler kept his shit in check and still won games with Turner, Martz and Tice. The 3 ghosts of OC never should have been, was about 10 years ago and are you fucking kidding me?

    Have your guys with "It" factors ever been subjected to the types of blatant disregard for personnel decisions within an organization?
    Would Brady accept that O-line without losing his shit? Would Rodgers play nice with his shitty O line if McCarthy wasn't such a bad ass playcaller that surrounded him with Jennings, Nelson, Driver, Finley, Jones, Cobb, etc?
    Would Flacco survive in our system with our pieces and would he be in a position to ask for 20million? Do you go to bed at night and say "man, i wish we had Flacco"? Fuck no you don't because you know what would fucking happen.
    Does Angelo get to fuck up for this long in an organization like Pittsburgh, GB, Baltimore? Fuck no. Yet the repercussions of his impotence is felt every year and every sunday until things can get fixed.

    Does bringing in Bates to help Tice, who had never called plays in the NFL before constitute some sort of placation of the QB in your eyes? Or was it a way to try to get some consistency into a new system that your "It" factor guys never have to fucking worry about.

    Does bringing in one of the best WR's in the last 15 years constitute placating the QB or is it something that should have been done 10 fucking years earlier?

    Do you think our passing stats were affected by the fact that we went from a true NFL Offensive guru in Martz, albeit with an old system and full of stubborness to adapt to the players we had, to a guy that WILL NEVER CALL PLAYS IN THE NFL EVER FUCKING AGAIN???

    Do you think that the scheme that we tried to run was influenced by the utter lack of talent on the O line, due to 2 first round busts, a practice squad guy from Washington, a TE from San Diego state and a 7th round pick from West Texas A&M being the fucking guys going up against real fucking NFL DEFENSES AND SCHEMES???

    When was Cutler an asshole to the media last year?? fucking when? Did he do a complete 180 with the media? Yes. Does he know that they will still burn him at the stake the moment they feel it will create pageviews? yes.

    Everyone bitches to the fucking refs unless you're the guys that don't have to bitch to the refs because you get the fucking calls no matter what. hell, the Harbaugh's, Fox's, etc of the league FUCKING ABUSE those refs and that has always been the case....

    When did Jay Cutler, not sliding, hurt the Bears? fucking when??

    You can't call his mechanics horrible while praising the plays that he makes that allow the Bears to score despite all of the inepitude and lack of scheme and then blame his fucking mechanics for the INT's. Watch the fucking tapes. He throws INT's when he escapes the pocket, makes the play himself, resets himself and tries to jam it in to make something happen with receivers that don't get separation and don't have the bodies, until this year, to win one on one battles. Not every pick he threw should have been thrown away and you fucking know it. Throw it away so we can get 1.7 yards on the next run? Throw it away when you have a guy like Marshall, Jeffrey and Bennett that can make plays? You have to take more chances when you either don't have the talent around you to do it any other way and the team needs you to be the gunslinger because our OC couldn't scheme his way out of a hallway with an open fucking door.

    J'Marcus Webb is a fucking disgrace and sometimes it takes a guy to point that shit out instead of just allowing it to happen over and over and over and over and over. Even Tice called those guys pussies by saying "sometimes you just have to make a block".
    The Packers benched Saturday because he wasn't getting the job done. We just keep the shit brigade on the field and hope Jay saves the day. Not good enough and not fair to Cutler.

    So in short, with all of the issues that needed to be, are being and will be fixed with the addition of Emery and Trestman to bring up his "meshing" with Cutler is irrelevant. Recent history has shown that Cutler will win games. Cutler will win more games with a coherent system, some upgrades and positions we all know and that is just the fucking case. Winning creates chemistry, chemistry is pined over by the networks and media, winning sweeps issues under the rug. Winning MESHES the team. You can't win in a professional league with a bullshit OC and no drafting. That is why Emery and Trestman were brought in. Not Emery, Trestman and new QB.

  • Johnny the first part of your rant is about the "it" factor. I've never in my life said anything about an "it" factor. Save that rant for the posters that wrote it. First you brag about Cutler's W-L record and then you say that winning meshes the team. Well which is it? You can't have it both ways. When was Cutler an asshole to the media? He had Waddle so mad one week I thought the show would go off the rails. Waddle isn't exactly a media gadfly. And this is Cutler's show! So it's OK to bully people because they suck? It's OK to be an asshole to your boss because they suck? I'm sensing a pattern here. When does not sliding hurt the team? When your starter gets hurt unnecessarily. What's the point? If you're trying to get a crucial first down, it makes sense. As a habit? Stupid. Why throw it away? So you don't take more needless hits or throw more needless INT's. You are blind to any of Cutler's faults. This is his last chance to be a true franchise QB. If it doesn't happen here his next stop is going to be with some bottom feeder desperately taking a chance on getting through to him.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I love how it's his "last chance" when he hasn't been given his first fucking chance yet.

    No one would become a franchise QB with the hand he was dealt.

    I didn't live through the 70's and don't remember much of the 80's but I do know that he is the best quarterback we've ever had and we still wait until year 5 to bring in basic fucking tools like coaching and a line that doesn't require max fucking protect every pass play for him to work with.

    I'm not blind to the faults but his faults would exist in every QB that was thrown into our litterbox of an offensive structure.

    If this is his "last chance" that would be a fucking tragedy.

    He's put up with so much bullshit and kept his mouth shut for the majority of it. At a certain point you just get fed up with the bullshit. Look at the posters on this blog and notice the venom for the horrible managment decisions, the ignoring of the issues year in and year out, the sub par talent in the core of the line and now imagine if you were the guy brought in to lead the team to victory....

    Boo hoo, he fucking nudged a 340lb guy who plays like a fucking faggot. No passion, no anger, no heart, no aggression. That is what Cutler despises about that fucking cocksucker. That is what we despise about him. If the worst thing he did after all of the shitty play is to nudge him for being a pussy and telling him to step the fuck up then i have no problem with that.

    He's never gotten hurt not sliding so i don't know what the fuck you are talking about. He's never been hurt not sliding.

    Why are we talking about "getting through to him"???? what does that even fucking mean???

    If you give the guy a basic NFL line and a competent NFL OC with the guys we have at WR and RB and the defense we have we succeed. why is that so fucking hard to comprehend???

    He's pretty much done it without the line for the whole time he's been here. We just got Marshall this fucking year after 3 years of total fucking horseshit. Get through to him? More like, the ridiculousness finally got through to the managment and look who got fucking fired and for what reasons!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Is Earl Morrall still around?

    He WAS the best back-up, ever.

    Led 2 different teams to the Super bowl when their marquee QB's (John Unitas & Bob Griese) went down.

    He could punt a little too.

    He's only 78.

    Bet he could STILL play better that a few of the mopes that have passed for backup QBs for the Bears over the years.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Johnathan Quinn. Henry Burris.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Earl was special. Not to mention, fortunate as hell to play for great teams.

  • Another little tidbit..

    ‏@djdurkin
    #bears roberto garza’s pay bump puts his cap # at $3.29M, increasing his lead as the highest paid o-lineman (currently) in 2013.

  • And.. why does everyone keep saying that Knox is still on the team? According to Rotoworld, he isn't.

    http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/contracts/nfl/chi/bears

  • http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/12/bears-terminate-contract-of-johnny-knox/

    Cut today.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I respect the Bears for keeping him on a little longer and putting some coin in the young man's pocket so he could start the rest of his life on the right foot.

    They knew he would never play again and they paid him anyway.

    Have a great life Johnny, thank you for the effort.

  • That's very Ginny of them.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    This is partially why they did it:

    Per the Trib 3/26/12

    "Knox, a former fifth-round pick, is entering the final year of his rookie deal and has a base salary of $1.26 million in 2012. The one-time Pro Bowl pick was offered a four-year contract worth $4 million per season prior to the injury but did not accept the offer."

  • keeping him on for 2012 knowing he wouldn't play was like paying him some of the guranteed money he would have seen if he would have taken the contract offer.

  • I'm not certain, but I believe Johnny gets more retirement benefits as well because he had 3 full seasons in the NFL. I think that entitles him to a pension and also to health insurance. Either way, classy move by the Bears. Angelo gets credit for starting it. Emery gets credit for continuing to pay during his first season as GM.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    i believe you are correct.

    So, the Bears paid him a full seasons salary and kept him on long enough to make him a vested vet? Nice play.

  • i'll do some research on it. It's either that or talk about baseball.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    "Either way, classy move by the Bears"

    Says it all, bro.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Billichick would have traded him to the Raiders for a 2020 7th rounder...

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Yeah, his contract was expiring and the Bears let him know that he would not be in their future plans.. either way he would have been a FA.

  • Not having Urlacher in the middle doesn't worry you Jefe? Sounds pretty much make or break to me. 16 games with Nick Roach in the middle and some fool out wide ? Good luck making the playoffs with that.

    We should pay Melton what he'll be worth without Pep around ....

  • We missed the playoffs by a 1/2 game with Roach starting. His tackle totals were, btw, higher on average than what Lach was doing.

  • Jesus irish. Common maings. I too wasn't a roach fan... until he started kicking serious fucking ass last year. Dude looked GOOD. I was very impressed with his growth. He's definitely come into his own.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah but he's no Jamar Williams. You know, the LB who had 1 good game in his career.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    eeeeeeeasy!

    JM had HUGE potential... and a congenital neck problem

  • I had a nice conversation with Tim Jennings last night on Twitter..

  • Aaaaaaaannnnnnd?????

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Artoo is engaged.

  • Who's a good boy!?

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    dude, you're cracking me up lately.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That's a relief... because I have nothing to add these days.

    Thanks!

  • I'm guessing you had a real in depth socioeconomic discussion?

  • Not really but Jennings is totally okay with playing basketball and ruining his career.

    If Jennings gets hurt or destroys his knee.. Don't say someone didn't warn him.

  • bye bye Johnny Knox

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    you have been terminated

  • Blogfadder's pots have been:

    Sign Hester!
    Sign Urlacher!
    Give Melton big big money!

    Embrace Change.

    http://bobcatsplanet.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/changewecanbelievein.jpg

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I tend to agree. Although Melton is one guy we will likely keep.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Technically he said he wants keep Hester.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I want one of those trillion dollar platinum coins.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    At the rate we're going, any platinum coin will be worth $1 trillion before long. Like in Weimar.

  • Caught this on the radio today, XRT - back to back with Baker Street. I thought I should head to Walgreens and buy a feather comb.

    Here is Bon Scott... err... Al Stewart....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM7LR46zrQU

    If you are over 35, this song should trigger a memory...

  • Top 3 Places where the Zombie Apocalypse will NOT gain a foot hold:

    Montana
    Texas
    Wyoming

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2013/02/zombie-apocalypse-warning-takes-over-tv-station/

    No wonder nobody panicked. Everybody out there has their scope sighted to about 700 yards, and is stocked to the nines with ammo.

  • This just in...

    Lovie's gold plated shitter is up for sale on Ebay. Out with the old, in with the new:

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0212-bears-halas-hall--20130212,0,2990284.story

    So far, one bid from the President of Nicaragua.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Ask any dictator....nothing says, "you've made it" like a gold or platinum plated AK-47.

    I'm getting one.

  • I think the Wal-Mart in Iran sells these... isle 5. Right above the rocket propelled grenades.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    that reminds me, i haven't played MW3 in a while. I knew I felt more productive for a reason.

  • yep, me neither. My disc is broke.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Really? I swear I've played with you since you said that happened.

  • It was working for a while if I ejected it and put it back in and restarted like 4 times... now it's not even recognized by the machine.

    I'm at a crossroads doc:
    * Give it up for lent
    * Get a new one (probably at a discount)
    * Move up to BO2

    thoughts?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If you buy a new one, will you have to start your rankings all over?

    I just got my taxes. Maybe we should bite the bullet and buy BO2.

  • http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-chicago-bears-johnny-knox-20130212,0,6942210.story

    question answered btw.

  • Gotta give the Bears credit for keeping Johnny Knox around last year. Everybody and his brother knew he wasn't playing last year and probably never again. You know the Pats wouldn't have done the same. The Pats do the smart thing but are beyond cold. I'd rather do the right thing.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    sorry canada, fuck the right thing... this is a BIDNIZ! Do the wrong thing and give the god damn fans a fucking lombardi after 30 fucking years.

    Doing the right thing has given us lovie smith and jerry angelo.

    I'm done with that garbage.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Knox was about an inch away from being the first death on the field of a Bears player.

    I think this rattled the Bears organization into a small bit of contrition. More than the Navy Seal who split BinLamer's skull in half got, but cearly this was PR lest Biggs and Haugh and Esp. the Doomer (you know he was primed) rake them over the coals.

    If there is one thing that is paramount to the McCaskey's, it's congenial relations

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Don't agree at all. Lovie with a decent OC would have taken us all the way. I know, I know, woulda shoulda, coulda. Point is Lovie was OK, not great but OK. JA was fucking horrible. I doubt Bellicheat could have won a SB with JA at GM. Not to mention karma. Ever since Bellicheat was no longer able to film other teams games and practices he's 0 for the SB. Fuck him!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    agree to dissagree?

    Look it was 100% the stand up thing to do, and I am glad for him that they did it. You just have to be careful not to make the wrong decisions for the biz. No idea if and how much of an impact it had on cap or anything else, but if it did I am 100% against more "pr" moves like it in the future.\

    Agree on Bellicheat, but there's also a reason they are ALWAYS competative and most of the time vying for a SB slot, right.

  • http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2013_swimsuit/models/natasha-barnard/

    And the SI Swimsuit Rookie of the year is.... South African (oh, and super insanely hot)!

    Bang! Bang!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    can I be the guy that blows the sand of her hip.....I can do that for a living...and I don't even have to get paid!!!!!!!lol

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Can't watch this, so I hope the sound quality is okay...
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ycKcTq72M4

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    +1

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Now THAT'S someone I could get behind!

  • @LanceBriggs
    Wanna win $100 gift card to Chicago Cut Steakhouse? Post your valentines photo using #lancebriggs for a… http://instagr.am/p/Vo-VtltzMP/

    @LanceBriggs
    Lol. That's just wrong. Smh. @ErikGrogan @LanceBriggs I know how to win.. Post a picture of me and T'eo's girlfriend!!

  • So what do you call the ex-Pope now?

    How about, Ex Benedict?

    Yeah, ok, that sucked.

    "this just in... the Pope lost his wallet"
    http://www.hulu.com/watch/270004

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I like bad puns.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    You think they're punny, huh?

  • Kinda like a pun:

    A man was dining in a fancy restaurant and there was a gorgeous redhead sitting at the next table. He had been checking her out since he sat down, but lacked the nerve to speak to her.

    Suddenly she sneezed, and her glass eye came flying out of its socket toward the man. He reflexively reached out, grabbed it out of the air, and handed it back.

    'Oh my, I am so sorry,' the woman said as she popped her eye back in place...

    'Let me buy your dinner to make it up to you,' she said.

    They enjoyed a wonderful dinner together, and afterward went to the theatre and later had drinks.. They talked, they laughed, she shared her deepest dreams and he shared his. She listened.

    After paying for everything, she asked him if he would like to come to her place for a nightcap and stay for breakfast. They had a wonderful, wonderful time.

    The next morning, she cooked a gourmet meal with all the trimmings. The guy was amazed. Everything had been SO incredible! 'You know,' he said, 'you are the perfect woman. Do you treat every guy you meet this way?'

    'No,' she replied... 'You just happened to catch my eye...'

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    This story would make a great start to a screenplay.

  • For you MB..and your lovely earlier post of Katy Perry:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_374129&feature=iv&list=PL1C90BDF46E6EACFD&src_vid=iTthJI0rDnk&v=c_stcgW8E4o

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    thanks lobo. Very funny.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    "Greetings biatches" should be the new customary greeting.

  • me likey....tee hee hee

  • or maybe ...boing..boing...boing......

  • "

    A source tells the Miami Herald that the Dolphins have had "extensive discussions" with free agent WR Brian Hartline.
    Per the Herald, the Dolphins have "discretely targeted" re-signing Hartline and FS Chris Clemons. They hope to "lock" both players into contract before free agency opens on March 12. The problem is that re-signing Hartline could prove pricy and therefore limit the Dolphins' opportunity to go after a true No. 1 wideout such as Mike Wallace, Greg Jennings or Dwayne Bowe. Getting Ryan Tannehill some weapons must be a priority for GM Jeff Ireland."

    I wonder how much Hartline is asking for? He would make a nice slot addition for us, but probably wants too much.

  • Anyone have $55,555,000 lying around? (Imagine that number pop up when you go to you're ATM. I think I would just walk into the bank and buy just because I could. Straight Cash, Homie!")

    "
    According to CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora, "many" in the Steelers' organization believe the division-rival Browns will sign free agent Mike Wallace.
    New Cleveland owner Jimmy Haslam is a former minority Steelers owner, and the new Browns coaching staff of Rob Chudzinski and Norv Turner believes in a vertical-oriented passing attack. Wallace, of course, is a vertical receiver. Still just 26 years old, Wallace figures to seek a four- to five-year deal worth in excess of $10 million per season. Last offseason, Wallace lobbied the Steelers to pay him Vincent Jackson money (five years, $55.555 million). "

    Per Roto World.

  • Vjack was a fantasy fucker last year.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    is 'fantasy fucker' a good thing?

    Sounds like it can cut both ways.

    BTW, SHIVVVVAA!!!!

    Willie Gault tea-bagged everyone in the regular league, but that's what happens when QBs get 6 points and your team has Brees and AP.

    I didn't read Irish's rules before the draft in that league, if I had, I would have definitely made QB a priority.

    I essentially had the same team in both the snake draft and auction draft leagues and finished 5th in the former, and 1st in the latter.

    Those 2 extra points add up.

    (It's also worth mentioning that it was nearly impossible last year for anyone with AP to lose as NBIT also almost became champ with him).

  • Wow, the more I dwell on it, the more parallels I see between McNabb and Cutler. Controversy, Choker label, Questionable personnel and coaches who got fired the same year...here's from WIKI...hopefully, Cutler's legacy won't end as ignominiously.

    "In late September 2003, McNabb was the subject of very controversial comments made by Rush Limbaugh, who worked as a commentator for ESPN at the time, stating that McNabb was overrated and that, "I think what we’ve had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well".[19] The comments came after the Eagles began the season 0–2, losing to defending Super Bowl champion Buccaneers and eventual champion New England, both losses coming in their newly opened stadium, Lincoln Financial Field. There had been much discussion about the merit of these comments, which resulted in Limbaugh's resignation from ESPN. Football writer Allen Barra argued that Limbaugh's comments were in line with McNabb's statistical performance at the time.[20]

    Despite the slow beginning in the 2003 season, McNabb again led his team to the NFC Championship game. Although the slow start hindered his overall statistics for 2003, McNabb had the highest quarterback rating (97.5) in the NFL for the second half of the season and also completed over 62% of his passes for over eight yards per attempt. With Philadelphia's 14–3 home loss to the underdog Carolina Panthers in the 2003 NFC championship game, McNabb became the first NFL quarterback since Danny White of the Dallas Cowboys (1980–1982) to lead a team to three consecutive defeats in conference title games, prompting some observers to conclude that McNabb "chokes" in big games (his cumulative passer rating in the three conference championship games was 50.5 - a figure that is approximately 10 points lower than what the worst quarterback in the league earns over the course of a typical year). McNabb was knocked out of the NFC title game after being hit on the ground by Panthers' linebacker Greg Favors after he had been tripped up on a broken play.

    McNabb's success during this period came despite arguably the worst contingent of wide receivers in the NFL,[21] and perhaps in modern professional football history.[citation needed] In 2003, Philadelphia's wide receivers caught only five touchdown passes, tying the record for fewest in a 16-game season. By going the entire months of September and October without having a wide receiver catch a touchdown pass, the 2003 Eagles became the first NFL team since 1945 not to have gotten a touchdown pass from any of its wide receivers in the first two months of a season....

    McNabb led his team against the New England Patriots in Super Bowl XXXIX. McNabb struggled at times, throwing three crucial interceptions. Two of these were thrown in New England territory, and one of those two was inside the twenty-yard line. The final interception was during a last-gasp Hail Mary at the end of the game. He was also sacked four times. Controversy surrounded the end of the game, as center Hank Fraley claimed that McNabb was seriously ill. Wide receiver Freddie Mitchell claimed that he had to call a few plays due to McNabb's illness. However, in an interview with NBC, McNabb said he was not sick and did not throw up. He just said he was tired.[23] Some reports claim that McNabb had the wind knocked out of him by an earlier hit while others assert that he was unduly fatigued (interestingly, McNabb also suffered from a bout of nausea at the conclusion of a 2002 regular-season game played at Alltel Stadium, where Super Bowl XXXIX was contested). An article written by a staff member of the Philadelphia Inquirer refuted allegations of McNabb throwing up during the Super Bowl and even labeled the alleged incident "a myth".[24] Both head coach Andy Reid and McNabb have denied any physical problems that led to the puzzlingly slow pace of play, but they did not address mental problems. McNabb finished the game with 30 completions for 357 yards, the third highest total for both categories in Super Bowl history, and three touchdowns, in addition McNabb threw 3 interceptions. The Eagles lost 24–21"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donovan_McNabb

  • Good stuff 4e. Lots of interesting angles there, especially considering they eventually went out and got T.O. and ended up in the Super Bowl. (Going from memory there, so shoot me if I'm wrong.). Cutler is building a history as a closer though with strong 4th quarter performances. Hopefully, that and Marc Trestman are what separates him from a McNabb-like legacy.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    You are correct. Another parallel since T.O. like Marshall is shall we say, a bit on the cray-cray side.

    However, in retrospect, maybe T.O. wasn't as crazy as believed. Everyone judged him a diva for throwing McNabb under the bus, but really he just publicly stated what many believed behind closed doors: McNabb was not a championship caliber QB.

    Still, It took the Eagles a lot of losses in big games to finally conclude what T.O. figured out years before.

    It's a good sign that Marshall totally buys into Cutler cause he's a baller. Then again, T.O. cried for Romo, so who knows?

  • Oh he was crazy. And on a side note, I saw T.O. this weekend on TV. He's a team owner now. Not kidding. He owns a bowling team in Dallas. I didn't even know people owned bowling teams. I think they're called the Strikers. Talk about a crash landing.

  • Gee 4ever, what pass receiver is NOT going to like a QB that thews the ball at him 18 times a game?

  • Gee 4ever, what pass receiver is NOT going to like a QB that throws the ball at him 18 times a game?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    hmmm... gnomey

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    that comment was the equivalent of a fart.

  • Da Bears Blog - come for the analysis, stay for the in-fighting.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Fuck you, Willie.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I said GOOD DAY, sir.

  • More on Nick Barnett (convo is so far up top it will get lost).

    Someone raised the concern that he is a liability on passing downs. PFF doesn't mention that, but I don't know how pass coverage factors into their grading. In any event it doesn't matter much.

    Lance Briggs will be our starting WLB and nobody in the league can challenge for that job right now. Barnett could serve as a backup, but he would more likely be our starting SLB.

    Strong side linebackers these days are on the field for about 50% of a defense's snaps. The other half of the snaps, the D plays with the nickelback. That means if we are concerned that Barnett will be burned in heavy coverage situations, we need not worry that much. He won't be on the field - we'll take an extra corner.

    As to fighting off a fast pass catching TE. Most teams are looking for safeties and MLBs to do most of that on those big "over the middle" passes. I'm sure Barnett will get tested, but I wouldn't be heartbroken if we have him blitz the passer and bring down a safety if he can't always keep up with Gronk or whoever.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Barnett, like Flatbread, is an Oregon State Alum.

    You know what they say, you can never have too much beaver.

  • ...and I support this message.

  • Irish -

    This one's for you. They had him surrounded, and as we can now tell - they torched the cabin on purpose. Also known as the Waco Gambit. If he came out, they were to shoot him. No way were they going to take him alive.

    I doubt this video will stick around long, so here you go.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCdqybEfy9w

  • In reply to gpldan:

    fascinating. Thanks for the link GP

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I wonder if CNN Headline News got more viewers last night than the other cable networks showing the State of the Union address. They stayed with the Dorner story. The big four networks only had 18.7 million viewers combined for the SOTU speech, so I'm guessing the cable channels had almost no viewers. People must be tired of an hour and a half of one or two line zingers with a minute of applause in between, followed by "experts" telling us how good or bad the "speech" was.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    "San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon said deputies did not purposely burn down the cabin. He said they deployed the CS canisters after they were left with no other options. "I can tell you it was not on purpose," he said. "We did not intentionally burn down that cabin to get Mr. Dorner out.""

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/dorner-manhunt-hot-gas-that-burned-cabin-was-last-resort.html

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Except when we got on the radio and gave the order to "go forward with the plan, with the burner."

    "Seven burners deployed," said the responding officer, seconds later, "And we have a fire."

    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-dorner-fire-20130215,0,5831477.story

  • Is this regular irony or meta-irony?

    http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/feb/11/heart-attack-grill-spokesman-dies-heart-attack/

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Alleman is the second unofficial spokesman to die in the restaurant's nearly two-year history in Las Vegas. In March 2011, Blair River — known as the Grill's "Gentle Giant" — died of flu-related pneumonia, Basso said at the time. The 575-pound spokesman was just 29.

    --

    Alleman, who weighed about 180 pounds, is proof that heart attacks could happen to anyone, Basso said.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Pretty sure not irony at all. Neither was Steve Irwin dying from a wildlife attack. Neither is rain on your wedding day, or any other attempt at irony from Alanus Morisette.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I see what you did there.

  • here's one for Irish. A little Flavah

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2013_swimsuit/models/ariel-meredith/13_ariel-meredith_4.html

    SO hot.

  • http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Idonije-voted-to-USA-Todays-All-Joe-team/64727612-0eda-49b2-8fb4-addd34f46437

  • Did you know that under Lovie we changed starting safeties 56 times? FIFTY-SIX. That's redonkulus!

    However, according to Bigg's new article on Safeties, we might finally be set.

    "Conte and Wright have started 21 games together in the last two seasons and in those games the Bears have limited opposing quarterbacks to a passer rating of 68.9 with 19 touchdown passes allowed and 31 interceptions for the defense as a whole.

    In its end-of-season grades, Pro Football Focus preferred Wright over Conte.

    The website ranked Wright 19th overall among 88 safeties leaguewide that qualified with enough playing time. He was tied for 19th vs. the run and only got dinged a little in terms of his pass rushing ability.

    Conte ranked 56th overall even though he was 17th in coverage. That’s because he received a very low grade vs. the run (15th worst) and he also got negative marks for getting called for four penalties — two unnecessary roughness, one holding and one pass interference. All four resulted in first downs."

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-chicago-bears-position-analysis-safety-20130212,0,4837074.story

  • That Wright-Conte combo seems to be lethal, and no doubt contributed to Jennings-Peanut PB starts. Their speed esp helps out the slower Peanut.

    We've always liked Wright on this here blog, but much like Woot, he could never stay healthy, but hopefully that has changed.

    Conte seems like he could get more INTs esp since he was a former CB. Conte should hit the jugs machine like Jennings did. He's a bit of a liability in the run though as evidenced when AP stiffed armed him like you stiff armed your little brother growing up. He also got taken on a few rides, but at least he's a sure tackler (though not a hammer).

    I agree with many of you guys that Walters can't be on this roster in 2013.

    We got Hardin and Steltz, so maybe a young studly project hybrid would be nice.

    We've all discussed stopping TEs, and maybe a hybrid S/LB would help out in that, and contribute to stopping the pistol-option on certain packages.

    Just a thought.

  • Pringles keeps his head up and his eyes open. He was esp. good in the redzone, where you distinguish the men from the boys as far as safeties go.

    When you face a team like the Packers who have 1st and 10 on the 15, and they line up shotgun 4-wide - you gotta have a safety who makes the right read, and can make the read and get to the spot the ball is coming in from.

    Pringles can do that.

    Conte was told, drilled in by Lovie, that he should not let anybody get behind him - and so he often played deeper than I thought he should - and then there was the issue of him looking to take some shots and paying some fines.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And 56 safeties is stupid.

    Adam Archuleta was the worst of the 56.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Hoke stated that Wright just needed more reps, and by that I think he meant, "He needed more reps so that he doesn't go in like a heat seeking missile with his head down looking to cripple himself". Wright didn't make too many of those tackles this year which made me cringe a bit not only for his safety, but because HBs would then blow right past him as he was grabbing air.

    Conte is feistier than I thought. He seemed to jaw it up on more than one occasion, and he did actually get some decent hits on some players, evidenced by some questionable penalties against him. I also remember him pulling up a few times from the big hit because of the new rules, which is a damn shame cuz the receivers just caught the ball in front of him and all he could do to not risk "unnecessary roughness" is let them catch it and wrap up and tackle.

    I wonder if our new DC will line them up closer to lines now that they're more experienced? hmmm....

  • You my good sirs... are welcome

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lhUL75PMhc

    I provide a service here... fill a gap... play a roll.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hmmm...

    They keep saying "Cook for them" but I can almost gaurantee that 9 out of 10 hot girls on V-day would take a diamond ring over a New York steak in a New York minute.

    Also, I appreciate your service. It always surprises me that I can never get tired of looking at smoking chicks, as long as it's not the same one that is...

  • personally, I could have been in lust with my ex for the rest of my life... if the mind wasn't part of the package.

    I think the more appropriate saying of the two is, 'No matter how hot she is, some guy, somewhere... is sick of talking her shit.'

  • Why does this debate sound so familiar?

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/13/troy-aikman-fans-dont-realize-how-good-tony-romo-is/

    Somewhere in the comments section, you'll find Johnny's long lost twin bro who grew up in Texas.

  • With a new Pope on the way, thought I would share a good skit by my favorite Vatican gossip columnist, Guido Sarducci. Part of the skit is missing, but I think Guido came up 35 cents short.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AKvRvL5r3A

  • I think it's over: http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/us/lapd-manhunt-timeline/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Wow, this is hardcore man: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/02/13/chris_dorner_firefight_video_cbs_reporter_carter_evans_got_a_close_up_view.html

    damn.

    and you are welcome $. My pleasure man... since I'm on the web pretty much 16-18 hrs a day, I might as well help those in need.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Saw this right there... not a good start to one's day:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNs9qStmrTY&NR=1&feature=fvwp

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    roughlty translated the title means, "When you lose your glamor"

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jebus on a bicycle. Good thing I didn't go to Big Bear! I was actually there not too long ago. I BBQd in the snow, which was pretty cool.

    I would love to read a psychological profile on the dude. It's only a matter of time b4 "copy cats" follow, too, which might have been one of his motives all along, in a sorta twisted martyr self-narrative.

    Living in L.A. gives one a special distaste for the police. I frequently read ppl from small towns around the country saying stuff like, "Those L.A. fucks don't respect authority," but anyone who has grown up in L.A. who has encountered "authority" has reason to dislike the Po-po. Almost everyone I know has a "Bad cop" story. L.A. cops gotta be the most corrupt nation wide. There's a reason riots break out here every so often.

    Like Sublime sang in 40 oz to Freedom...

    "Cause everybody in the hood has had it up to here
    It's getting harder, and harder, and harder each and every year
    Some kids went in a store with their mother
    I saw her when she came out she was gettin' some Pampers
    They said it was for the black man
    They said it was for the mexican
    But not for the white man
    But if you look at the streets, it wasn't about Rodney King
    It's this fucked-up situation and these fucked-up police

    source: http://www.lyricsondemand.com/s/sublimelyrics/april29th199250716lyrics.html

  • Unfortunately Butch, it's happening all over the country. LA is probably worse than most places, but the average police recruit today is indoctrinated with an "us" vs. "them" mentality. Most of the good cops who get into the profession based on the belief of "protect and serve" quit or look for transfers to administrative jobs. Or they find Sheriff's departments with a "protect and serve" viewpoint.

    I've said it before on here. I've had large contracts with a police training center and an adjacent military base where police officers are trained. This country has been militarizing police in my area since the late 90's or early 2000's. Every recruit has a military style hair cut, and they literally won't talk to you if your a civilian. It's fucking scary.

    Police don't knock on the door anymore to serve a search warrant. They bring in heavily armed SWAT teams and break down the doors with guns drawn. If they think drugs may be involved, they also throw in flash bang grenades. If the police "accidentally" raid an innocent persons home and kill them or their pets, the police investigation almost universally exonerates the officers and said they did the right thing killing the innocent victim. Many times the officer will receive a medal or commendation for killing an innocent person, since they pulled out a gun at 4am when their doors got broken down on a no-knock raid.

    I made the mistake once of getting into a heated argument with a neighbor who has pull at city hall because a friend parked in front of her house. That night I had a foreign exchange teacher from France staying at my house. She had the weekend off from teaching, and she wanted to sight see the area, since some early French settlements occurred around La Crosse and Prairie Du Chien, WI. After dinner, within 10 minutes of returning, I had cops at my door saying we have information of a domestic dispute at your address. When I told them there was nothing wrong, they barged into my house and acted like complete assholes. They made a mess of my house, treated her like shit, then walked out. When I asked who made this claim, they said they were not allowed to say. I was too young to pursue it further. I was totally embarrassed.

    I wonder what her impression of America was after the raid. At the time, I thought she had it bad. According to her, in France at the time educators are assigned positions. The education system is run by the Federal Government of France. She grew up in a kick ass area close to the Mediterranean Sea by Italy, where she could go to the beach one day and ski in the Alps the next. But teaching in France is based on seniority. You have little to no choice where you teach and live. She was teaching in northern France close to Germany, and hopefully after 15-20 years should could move back to where she grew up. I thought that was pretty fucked up.

    Back to the story. The week after the teacher left, the same cops came to my house saying I stole a computer. This time I blocked the door and did not allow them in. I informed them that there are large packages from UPS next door to the place where the computer was supposed to be delivered. It was brought to the wrong house. Again, no apologies. In the next six weeks, I was pulled over 3 times. No tickets, just harassment. One of the times I had been to a bar and had a couple drinks. The cop made me blow in the breath-a-lizer multiple times trying to get me on something. I blew a .04 on the highest reading.

    The justice system is totally fucked up. Since the time I mentioned above I've had a top employee who has lots of family members on the police force, I work for and have partied many times with a judge, and I do work for extremely wealthy and powerful people. As a consequence some of my employees have been let go for things like drunk driving off duty, and moving violations have been let go with warnings while working. I'm done rambling.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    My ex-wife was Irish and she told me in Ireland, the cops aren't allowed to serve anywhere near where they grew up, and are transferred to other parts of the country on a regular basis to prevent getting too chummy or familiar with the locals and to prevent the playing of favorites as you outlined above. I thought that was a great idea...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    That doesn't work Tobi. L.A. cops rarely work where they grew up because they wouldn't be able to look at their friends, family and neihbors in the eye.

    Over here if you work with law enforcement in anyway shape or form, you just tell the cop who pulled you over that info, and you're let go. In some other threads, maybe I'll share some stories - I got more than a few doozies.

    What The Fifth says is true, and sad.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Good stories....

    Good share, Fifth.

    Tobi, I'd say the idea of stationing the Gardai away from their own town probably has more to do with them not getting their heads kicked in. I could write a book on irish cops, they're a breed of their own, and practically incorruptible on a global scale. Try to bribe one and you're nicked on the spot. By and large though, they're rednecks looking to get even.

    I'm moving back to Ireland after the guts of ten years in Thailand. I'll walk up to the first cop I see and shake his hand .... cos compared to Thai cops, Irish cops are angels. Every one of those guys in T-land is bent as a a two dollar note inside a ninety degree tyre-iron.

  • Seriously? You're moving back to Ireland?

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    Well, that was depressing.

    I've seen good cops and bad cops. On the other hand, every parole officer and prison guard I've had the misfortune of dealing with is a complete and total piece of shit. God help anyone who gets caught in the American penal system (unless they're child molesters or something, in which case, there should be a special place in Texas for them).

  • http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/02/13/ex-bears-gm-angelo-publishes-column-giving-drafting-advice/

    Now you're in the twilight zone.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    you have GOT to be fucking kidding me. the only ones reading that thing are going to be the browns maybe. fuck me.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    "You're traveling through another dimension. A dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's the signpost up ahead— your next stop, the Angelo Zone! "

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Tonight's Episode:
    "(More Than) One of Our Draft Picks is Missing"

    Starring Cedrunk Benson & Chris Williams.

    With guest stars: Marc Columbo & Gabe Carimi.

    A Wierscrood production directed by Jerry Angelo.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Fkn A. I'm not even reading the story, cos there isn't one ...

    "Over the last 10 years, the Bears have used just two draft picks in the first three rounds on offensive linemen."
    from drafting a tackle : http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20130213/sports/702139664/

    Fuck you Jerry. You and Devin. Right in the face.

  • I'm really glad Johnny Knox did exactly what I was hoping he would do.

    Retire.

    There was no need for him to keep playing and no need for him to try.

  • I thankful he doesn't have to be WHEELED into handicapped seating section.

  • +1

  • I'm sad for him that he got hurt, but I never wanted him in a Bears' jersey in the first place. Good luck in life Johnny, you still have a lot to be grateful for, but there won't be any more dropped balls or blown routes to hang Jay out in the wind.

  • http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Compare-Contrast-NFL-Prospects-NFP-Version-20.html

    Interesting comparison of Te'o and Ogletree. Argues that Te'o has the better instincts, but Ogletree is the better athlete. Concludes that Ogletree's physical skills will ultimately give him the better career. There will be a follow up comparing Olgetree and Kevin Minter.

    Honestly, I am not thrilled with either of them. I don't know enough about Minter, but he generally gets ranked as #3 of the bunch. If Emery wants to draft a linebacker in round 1, I tend to favor trading back and getting back into round 3.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Honestly, I prefer Oggletree after the Championship game and all that fake GF crap. Ogletree was a converted safety, just like Lach. That's probably why his instincts aren't as honed it - yet.

    It's odd to say, but it would almost have been better if T'eo go busted for possesion of marijuana or something (however, his religious angle might have made him seem a bit hypocritical). But I don't see how Te'o can look any of those NFL studs in the eye, much less lead them.

    I'm sort of coming around with not drafting an ILB or a C/G in the first, because this draft is relatively deep at both.

    However, it's looking less and less likely that OT Lane Johnson will be around at #20, and it's almost a near certainty that Ogletree, Te'o, Warmack, Cooper, Eifert and Ertz will be the highest graded prospects available for us, in which case I'd also be all for trading down, but just not sure who would want to trade up with us and for whom?

    I've thought about it, and since we're the best-worst team (team with the best record who missed the playoffs), that means that every team picking after us who made the playoffs is pretty set at QB.

    What does this mean? This means that teams like the Cards or Bills who maybe pass on a QB in the first won't have any incentive to trade back into the round at 20 because they'll that no way will the Sea, SF, NE, etc draft a QB in the first.

    If anything, they might trade back in the late 20s to possibly try to jump the Chiefs, but that does us no good.

    However, it's still early in the draft process, so maybe some unexpected guy blows it up in the combine and changes the landscape....

  • Last year we saw the Patriots trade up to bring in defensive talent they wanted. The Giants are above us, but I suspect more than one of the playoff teams will be looking to build on their pass rush.

    A lot of teams are looking for help at ILB. If all three guys are on the board at 20, they could still all be gone by 32. Same could be said for TE, left tackle (the top 3 remaining), and WR.

    One possibility. Tony G retires and Atlanta is suddenly thin at TE. They broke the bank to get Julio Jones and that worked out okay. They might trade up again to grab Eifert if he's still around at 20.

  • Wonder if that Minter is related to "not great but decent" 1990s Bears MLB, BARRY Minter?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=5200&ATCLID=3660011 lists father as Leonard Minter. Couldn't find any info beyond that.

    If we drafted him and he became the starting MLB, it would be an interesting end for Lach. Lach replaced Barry Minter when he became the starter.

  • Hey Jeff. I know you it's hard to find something to write about every day during the offseason, but I noticed a trend that you should be aware of.

    The comment count growth rate is logarithmic. When a new thread is born, the comment count grows fast and slows down to a near zero growth rate over time. If you want to keep the advertisers happy, posting a new thread more often should increase your already impressive comment count.

    Food for mathematical thought.

  • You think Jeff is going to read 280 comments to find this?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I would say bold the message, but I've noticed that if you bold or use any HTML towards the end of the thread, it fucks it up, and no one can reply to a comment directly anymore.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Maybe he will have a daily thread when he changes sites. Although I doubt Chicago Now would give him a weekly limit on threads...

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    Gnomes went to florida for the winter

    http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-83547458988818_2247_456876243

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I don't think he reads 30 comments. I just haven't contributed lately and it came to mind.

  • Pistorius was well armed. Just not well legged. (Boom!)

    The initial reports had the police stumped. (pow!)

  • In reply to gpldan:

    fucked up dude... guy's a fucking national hero back home. Sucks.

    (but just kidding about the jokes, those were good)

  • Ok, so are we to assume that we need to come up with some blog discussion? I'll start.

    Discussion topic : The Bears need of a TE either through the draft or free agency.....

    With Kellen Davis woefully underperforming this year at the starting TE position, the lack of any other weapons with the other TE's on the team and hence the lack of a threat in the middle of the field to free up other receivers and Forte in the pass game or to provide a safety net for Cutler who is your target for the TE position whether through the draft or FA?

  • What's the difference? He's just going to run around and force it to Marshall.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Bingo

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    And believe me, I *so* Hopefully, want to be wrong about it. But I gotta go with what I see. Yeah, Jay threw to Greg. But there was no BM then.

    Hopefully, Trestman, et al, will inspire enough confidence or fear (whichever works!) to get all the weapons involved. We all have visions of a crazy awesome offense....

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Dave I'm with ya 100%. Cutler's has the physical talent but at some point it comes down to "Who ya gonna believe? Johnny or your lying eyes."

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Well, we all know why he preferred not to throw to Davis or Hester but I'm not sure why he lost confidence in Bennett. He didn't seem to have a problem with Jeffery. Why Forte got left out, I don't know. Was he in protection more this year? OC related?

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Forte didn't get left out, he caught 44 balls i think.

    Trestman loves to throw it to the running backs even more. It could be awesome.

  • You're right. Forte actually caught only eight less passes than he did the year before but 44 receptions for 340 yards was by far the least amount of receiving production he's had in his career so far...

  • Forte set new career lows in all receiving categories this year (iirc). He was essentially left out.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Sorry, Tobi; didn't see your (basically identical) post.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    he was definitely less effective. Forte admitted himself and opposing teams did as well that teams were keying on him knowing that he was coming out of the backfield.

    That is why it was so maddening to see the same out of the backfield routes instead of splitting him wide and having him covered by a LB. I saw him pull of a slant for a TD for 20 yds on a slant route that he ran better than Hester. he was hobbled by ankle problems all season too though.

    I'm confident Trestman will get those numbers up.

  • He was less effective by design, imo. Tice himself admitted to keeping Forte in to block alot. I agree that Tice was less creative than Martz in utilizing Forte - run and pass - and that Trestman will do better.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    i'm excited and i think Forte is excited too. he's also now rich as balls which would produce a smile on my face every time I ran a sprint.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Crunch , his numbers may have also been lower because this year we had possibly the best receiver in the league on our team and in the past I think it's safe to say that Forte was possibly either our best receiver, or too fucking close to it.

    Forte still had 44 catches as a running back which was good for 10th in the league out of all backs and some guys above him had 2 or 3 more catches so let's not think that Forte was somehow ignored or left out as much as you think.

    Everyone knew his numbers would go down and it was discussed as such in the preseason. I just think people didn't expect teams to make him such a non factor in a lot of games. There are several reasons for that and they are not all on Forte.

  • I put it all on Tice. A lot of Forte's catches came on broken plays. There were a lot of broken plays.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    lol, now you're just being difficult to be difficult. All you have to do is look up Jay Cutler highlights on Youtube for the various years to see what he had to do to get the TD's and the big gains that he did.

    When we had a real OC in Martz it was hot reads and TE plays that killed teams.

    When we got a fucking substitute teacher version of OC in Tice we lost our TE and got Marshall but didn't have an OC that could utilize the short routes in his gameplan because the TE were either in blocking or were too busy sucking at their jobs, LB's knew they could focus on Forte because they didn't have to worry about the TE and Marshall became a great equalizer for shitty runs on first down or shitty blocking on second down. His catch percentage was 2nd in the whole league so don't give me the "he focused too much on Marshall", because the numbers suggest that ended up being the smartest play and most effective. Just because he had a shit ton of catches doesn't mean the other guys didn't get their looks. The chains got moved regardless whether the name was Marshall or Bennett or fucking Dan Sanzenpecker. It means the run game sucked cock, no one respected the tight end who had 19 catches and EIGHT DROPS!!!, Forte was semi neutralized and hobbled by injuries, the rookie missed 6 or 7 games, Bennett was hurt and Hester was, well, hester.

    So, i'm thinking that with a big boy offensive scheme, some actual fucking talent on the OL, a TE that is not afraid of catching the ball in the seam and the same weapons we already have at WR only a year older we'll be fine.

  • Assuming protection will be addressed (without keeping two TEs and two RBs in to help), it'll be really interesting to see what Cutler can do with a couple more seconds of time...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    it's not time that i'm concerned about exactly. It's scheme. The Packers offensive line is truly offensive but their playcaller knows this to be the case and created a rythym based quick passing attack that allowed Rodgers to get the ball out of his hands quickly and into the hands of playmakers. When he holds the ball too long or the scheme is not being utilized properly Rodgers gets pressured and sacked and has to improvise as much as Cutler does.

    It just looks different when your guys that are improvising are Jennings, Nelson, Driver, Cobb and Jones instead of Hester, Sanzenbacher, Roy Williams, Knox, Kyle Adams, Davis, Rash, etc.

    It's all about running an offense that actually attackes holes in the defense and kind of covers up for the deficiencies of certain pieces on the offense. A true OC like Martz , despite his ridiculous flaws, at least knew how to attack a defense and we saw some success despite having NOTHING in terms of true weapons.

    Trestman is thought of as a guy that can do this very thing. it should be way more fun to watch this year.

  • Keller would be my first choice. Then, a cheaper Cook who has all the tools, but needs to be developed. If Trestman is an offensive guru, he could turn Cook into a Graham type TE.

    If Dante Rosario sees FA, that would be my back-up back-up plan.

  • I wouldn't break the bank on any of the FAs out there either. I know we have a need at TE, but this just isn't the year for the position. There are a lot of OTs available (which is good) and a lot of D-line talent (which might help locking up Melton), but its not a good idea to break the bank.

    A good coach schemes for what he has, not the other way around. We've got Spaeth, a solid blocking TE, and a bunch of developmental prospects. Trestman should scheme accordingly.

  • Is Scheffler available or is he too old? I feel like Keller is a better blocker and pass catcher combo. Scheffler seems like a huge slow white WR but that could create serious matchup problems.

    I have watched Keller alot though over the last couple of years and like what i see. Who is Cook?

  • I honestly have not seen one TE that looks amazing to me in the draft. All of the top rated guys can't block, which to me means we should just get another WR. All of the true blockers don't appear to be pass catchers. I just don't see a reason to make a big splash with our first or second rounder.

    Last year I really liked Dwayne Allen, and he was one of two players that didn't last to the third round where I would have drafted him (the other was Casey Hayward). I can't complain though, the move on Jeffery was great and neither of those guys was a first rounder. You can't draft everybody.

    Well this year I again think we should target TE in the 3rd. But we don't have a third round pick. So I favor trading down in the 1st, getting back the pick, and bringing an extra mid-round talent. If we don't get an extra 3rd, we can look at TE in the 4th where the players start bunching up.

    Nick Kasa (Colorado, converted from DE to TE) looks like a good fit. There are some others too that look a lot more well rounded even if they catch fewer passes.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I'd like to see what E-Rod can do. You know he can block and he's supposed to have decent speed. I'd like to keep Spaeth for his blocking. Not sure what to think of Adams. Davis almost has to be a cap casualty.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    i'd also like to see what Erod can do. Kid has a mean streak, can block a bit, catches pretty well and has decent size so hopefully they can find a place for him. I'm still pissed that Clutts is gone and he is there but what can you do.

    It's hard watching Bears highlights from 2011 and seeing Clutts involved in almost every running TD, long screen pass, downfield blocks, etc.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I agree with your TE draft assessment.

    When I said that I wouldn't draft Eifert because many scouts compare him to Olsen, I didn't mean to diss Goldy Locks.

    The way I look at it - would we give the Panthers our 1st rounder for Olsen right now?

    Hell no, right? Well, neither Eifert or Ertz are projected to be much better than Olsen, not to mention that Olsen would be in his prime in the next two years, with built in experience and chemistry with Cutler.

    So I'm with you NBIT. I'd wait till the 3rd (If we had one), or if Ertz is just sitting there in the 2nd for us, then go for it (If we didn't draft and FA TE.)

    The two later guys I would keep an eye on are Travis Kelce, Cincy and Gavin Escobar, SD ST.

    Here's some insight into the TE draft.

    http://walterfootball.com/draft2013TE.php

  • How about the Bears go for the nastiest OL left on the board in the 1st round. Hopefully Warmack, the guard from Alabama, falls to the Bears. I don't buy this bullshit by the "experts" saying great guards aren't worthy of first round picks. The Bears can't run up the middle because Louis is the only guy who can move his man backward. You can't do 3-step quick passes over the middle when the interior OL get pushed back into the QB. You can't step into a pass in the pocket when the QB has guys in his face in less than 2 seconds.

    Look at playoff teams like Seattle, San Fran, Atlanta, Baltimore, and Denver. In the playoffs, they chipped the good DE's, pushed them outside, and had nice clean pockets to throw because the guards and center on those teams didn't allow the push up the middle for the pocket to collapse. Those QB's had all day to throw. Controlling the line of scrimmage is critical in the NFL. How many times did Cutler take a 5 step drop, and immediately have to move in the pocket because of pressure up the middle? Like Lobo has been talking about the last two years, get me some fucking guards! We got one good one, but we need another one and a center.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    I think a drafted OL and a FA OL must be brought in. Nasty dudes that move piles and can do one on one work once in a while.

  • Ranking Bears 2013 needs (not including free agents):

    1. Offensive line; All positions (for the 7th year in a row)

    2. Defensive tackle

    3. Speed receiver

    4. Tight end

    5. FS, CB depth

    6. Linebacker depth

    7. Defensive end depth

    8. Backup RB

    9. Backup QB

    10. Punt/Kick returner

  • In reply to Shady:

    I think that's about right. Of course, if you can't get 1 squared away, no point in 3 as he won't have time to get more than ten yards off the line before Cutler has to get rid of it...

  • In reply to Shady:

    1.OL,
    2.OL,
    3.TE,
    4 DT,
    5 LB

  • I agree with pretty much everything you said about the Grammy's, Canada (They suck. I watch anyway. There's always at least one interesting performance. Not this time).

    But the 'Tribute to Bob Marley' was not a high point, imo. Sting and Bruno Mars should have kept their songs out of it. If the Police had reunited like they did at the 2007 Grammy's - but to cover a Marley song - that would have been a nice tribute. Bruno Mars should stick to honoring Michael Jackson.

  • Vikings making major changes for 2013:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000139148/article/minnesota-vikings-give-norseman-logo-facelift-for-2013

    Took a little off the horns, new nose, hairdoo, dye job...

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Should have went with Techno Viking 300:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67riI_A_pCA

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    see this is how useless marketing people perpetuate their jobs.

    If you didn't have the two next to each other would you ever be able to notice? Jesus, what a waste of time.

    they should have used this as a model instead: https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRNrGS2VjrRm78hUT2dJls9N3WAfe-inJjrG8RmG3zxYabKl_bR

    Btw, did you know that horns on the Viking helmet are historically incorrect? Vikings didn't have horns on their helmets... they would have been a BIG liability in battle (easy to grab, heavy, ungainly, etc...)

  • http://blog.mysanantonio.com/nfl/2013/02/marinelli-wants-cowboys-to-talk-takeaways/

  • Just an interesting article about the genetic mutation that causes Asians (or however you're supposed to phrase that.):

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/15/science/studying-recent-human-evolution-at-the-genetic-level.html?_r=0

    Thought you might be interested, Irish. Here's a clip:

    [snip]
    "...East Asians are sometimes assumed to have evolved in a cold environment because of their narrow nostrils, which conserve heat, and the extra eyelid fat that insulates the eye. But the Broad team calculates that the EDAR variant arose about 35,000 years ago in central China and that the region was then quite warm and humid. Extra sweat glands would have been advantageous to the hunter-gatherers who lived at that time."

    "But Joshua Akey, a geneticist at the University of Washington in Seattle, said he thought the more likely cause of the gene’s spread among East Asians was sexual selection. Thick hair and small breasts are visible sexual signals which, if preferred by men, could quickly become more common as the carriers had more children. The genes underlying conspicuous traits, like blue eyes and blond hair in Europeans, have very strong signals of selection, Dr. Akey said, and the sexually visible effects of EDAR are likely to have been stronger drivers of natural selection than sweat glands..."
    [snip]

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    alright! new discussion! thick haired, small breasted asian women...hot enough to drive future natural selection or do we go Tokyo sheik, huge titties, westernized porn star asian model?

    Go.

  • man that shit is so fascinating... love it! Thanks Buttsteak.

    Well johnny... do you even have to ask which gets my vote? Didn't think so.

    I find it interesting that "thick hair and small breasts" would be a sexual selector back then. Why? I kinda get the thick hair, but don't big breasts signal a healthier ability to rear children? Maybe for better mobility? Guess I also have to remember that they didn't have victoria secret back in the day and ‘big’ probably also meant ‘long'. Ewwwww.

  • Check THIS shit out: http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/15/16969092-hundreds-injured-as-meteor-fireball-screams-across-the-sky-in-russia?lite

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