An Off-Season Table of Contents

An Off-Season Table of Contents

You could make a sound and moat-protected argument the Bears off-season began with the firing of Lovie Smith and subsequent hiring of Marc Trestman as his replacement. Both of those decisions will shape the Chicago Bears for the next half-decade and define the tenure of General Manager Phil Emery in the city of Chicago. But around here, on this blog, I have always believed free agency, roster moves and the draft should not be discussed until after the Super Bowl has been played. It is a gesture on my part. A show of respect for the postseason and the clubs in it. And hey, we have seven months to discuss roster decisions now. Seven months until the Packers or Steelers (I'd guess) travel to Baltimore to kick off the 2013 season.

Today will serve as something of a table of contents for the off-season as we take a look at the issues (major and minor) facing this organization. Each will be addressed in a large, long form piece as we move forward. Here are the basic questions:

  • Does Devin Hester have a history in Chicago? Hester is a Bears legend and the greatest kick returner of all time but there seems to be a perception that he's in need of a change of scenery. It makes little sense to me.
  • How will Bears address their two most glaring roster needs: offensive tackle and tight end? Both positions should have serious options at the twentieth pick in the draft, especially Ertz and Eifert at the TE spot.
  • Jake Long? At one time Long was the finest left tackle in the sport but he's declined over the last year or two. Would the Bears be willing to overpay to upgrade their franchise QB's blindside?
  • How much will Phil Emery pay Henry Melton? With the Bears deciding to bring Mel Tucker to town and the 4-3 structure remaining in place, Melton's worth in Chicago is still quite high. Will Phil Emery break the bank to sign arguably the game's finest young defensive tackle.
  • Will Brian Urlacher finish his career at Soldier Field? Urlacher made it clear he'd take a serious pay cut. Will the Bears offer him one?
  • What does Marc Trestman need? We've evaluated the Bears offensive needs based primarily on the needs of the former regime but does anybody know the specific types of offensive talent Trestman needs to be successful? I surely don't.

These are just the beginning of what will be a rejuvenating off-season for the Bears organization.


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  • Are the Bears rebuilding?

  • In reply to Shady:

    hopefully rebuilding the oline!

    ...ahhhh, for fuck saaaake maan.

  • there seems to be a perception that he's in need of a change of scenery.


    The perception come from Devin's mouth.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    He seemed to indicate he's willing to be a returner only (in this aticle or another one I read.

    The guy isn't very bright - not that there's anything wrong with that. I doubt he has any idea what's best for him. But I hope he saw the kickoff TD last night - that's what he USED to do - run full speed and make the guys in the hole miss, then outrun the rest.

  • Don't think so in the traditional sense - retooling perhaps (or in the case of the offense, "tooling").

    BTW - I didn't condier Flacco a top QB prior to the playoffs. I do now. What a difference an OC can make; good for Harbaugh for seeing what needed to be done and switching. Maybe a good HC / OC can do the same for our QB.

  • In reply to BillW:

    they have a pretty good oline bill. we, sadly, have the exact opposite. Emery and trestmen will either win or lose based on how they build our oline in the next 2 years.

  • In reply to BillW:

    Flacco sucked all year with a couple of beatdowns they handed out now and then. They lost 4 of their last 5. I didn't see the SB, but does Flacco get the elite card just because he won a ring? Eli has two and I still don't think he's all that as a QB. The jury is always out on QBs surrounded by quality receivers.

    See this? Most hated QB in the NFL, and fourth most hated athlete in the USA. Our Jay.
    From NFL.COM :

    Based on recent public surveys from Nielsen Sports and market research firm E-Poll, Cutler trails only cyclist Lance Armstrong (noted PED cheat), Notre Dame linebacker Manti Te'o (noted Internet fiasco figure) and golfer Tiger Woods (noted philander machine). Michael Vick, the Philadelphia Eagles signal-caller, came in at No. 7 for obvious reasons.

  • I don't care where you stand on Jay Cutler. Love Jay, hate Jay. That's just fucking crazy shit. What did this guy do to even begin to get such hate?

    Hated more than the dog killer. Really? Just crazy.

  • In reply to MikeV in OR:

    Have you ever noticed that 90% of the photos of Cutler in the Trib and Sun Times are unflattering? You know the guy must smile or look 'neutral' a lot of the time, but you wouldn't know it by the press coverage. It's clear he's not interested in schmoozing the sportswriters, so is this negative coverage about his personality payback for that?

  • In reply to BillW:

    Even the Ravens made an o-line switch late in the season...I think they moved Oher from LT to RT. For them it worked. I'm hoping our new OC and HC will do a better job of recognizing what needs to be done whether it's changing the scheme, new guys, etc. I know the Bears had a lot of injuries, but to me Tice and Lovie seemed to feel that there was no 'coaching up' or scheme adjustment necessary, just 'play better'. And when that wasn't working, they said 'just play better'.

  • 1) As much as I love Hester as a player, his attitude stinks. If he wants a fresh start, what better time to do it than with a new HC, OC and ST coach? If the Bears get offered a 4th for him I can see some interest, but I think he'll be staying til his contract runs out.

    2) I think we will sign a free agent OT and TE, then if the draft is kind I could see us taking Warmack (a man can dream). We will need a LG cause I don't want Rachal or Spencer near this team next year. Don't want to spend a 1st on a TE though. We don't need an elite TE, just a guy who can catch the damn ball against one guy while the other 10 try and stop Marshall.

    3) Jake thanks. He'll still want top dollar and he isn't worth it at this moment in time. I could see Albert or Bushrod being signed.

    4) Franchise tag for DT this year is a shade over $8 million, so I'd say $30 million over 5 years with escalators for PB appearances and sack totals to take it up is decent enough. Cowboys are interested apparently, but their cap space is awful and they won't be able to compete with that.

    5) If #54 will play for less than $1.5-2million then yes, sign him up and let him play out his career as a bear. If not, one only has to look at how terrible Ray Ray was last night, almost costing his team the game through shoddy coverage, to see that we should either draft an MLB in the 2nd or an OLB and slide Roach inside. We can't have a Kreutz situation with Brian.

    6) I have no idea.

    To add my own point, I want the Bears to address Garza. He was not great last y-FALSE START #63- ear and I would love it if we picked up Barret Jones in the draft (again a man can dream). What would you guys do at center?

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Does anyone know if Spencer was a decent center before he was converted to a guard? If so, maybe that would make him part of the solution rather than part of the problem...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I highly doubt it or he wouldn't have ended up with us. Found a little tidbit on his time woth Seattle:

    "Chris Spencer really struggled in 2010. After showing potential in pass pro in 2009 he took a step back last season and now the Seahawks have to decide if that was a blip or a sign of his true abilities"

    Given that he provides little push in the run game and he is beaten pretty consistently at guard during pass protection, plus he's gonna be 31 at the start of the season, I don't really want to see him back.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Oh, hey, DYL, read that you liked Owens and Sasoon.

    Love Owens. "Dulce et decorum est..."

  • Pro Patria Mori.

    I first read that when I was 14 and it inspired me to write war based stories. However, my English teacher flogged the piece I wrote because "a soldier wouldn't just flee the battle if he knew he would be executed". Had to try and explain to the dumb bitch what shellshock was, but she just sat there with an incredulous look on her face the entire time. The same dopey cow would wax poetic at how amazing Sylvia Plath was when she killed herself. Made me furious and I've completely turned away from writing since.

    Anything to do with the World Wars is extremely interesting. Did a lot of studying on them in school and even got to visit Auschwitz with my school. That place is intense.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Just finished reading Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson. I thought it was fantastic, and I highly suggest it to everyone who doesnt hate reading really really really long books.

    3/4ths of the story lines are centered around WW2. Have at it.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Just went and picked up a copy, I'll let you know how I get on with it.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Damn it man.. I could have sent you a digital copy that somehow appeared on my computer after they broke into my house and downloaded a few TB of movies, music, and such...

    Hopefully you hit the library. I don't want to be responsible for "YOU MADE ME SPEND MONEY ON THIS!?"

    I think MBHAP is a fan... so, uh, blame him if you don't like it. If you love it, though, HE NEVER EVEN REALLY WANTED YOU TO READ IT!

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Cheers man, but prefer a hard copy anyway...besides I got it for a couple of quid.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    That's one of my favorite books of all time.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    A student of mine gave that to me. I started reading it but stalled for my usual reason. I tend to put off reading unless I have the time for really long chunks of reading at a time. Which I never do.

    So it's good, huh?

  • It's good.

    And it talks about zeta functions.


  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Don't want Rachel or Spencer back AT ALL. Gone. C'ya. Would like to get rid of Garza too, but maybe moving him back to G, his real position, will help him. Brown and Ed Williams should replace Rachel and Spencer posthaste.

    I don't really see us drafting Warmack, not at 20. C/G/RTs always fall. I would love for us to trade down and pick up Warmack and with the extra pick, Barret Jones, Cooper or Warford with the extra pick.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    We already have a Kreutz situation with Brian and I've been mentally pissing myself over it for years.

  • Tony Romo has a cap hit of $16.8million for 2013. That is insane.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    wow. met two corona extra hookers (the chicks promoing beer with trinkets and tits) last night... they were cowboy and romo fans. I had to laugh.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Probably an easy lay then.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    ha. nope, the hired help is never easy.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    every drunk was probably trying their lamest line on them too.

    "your feet must be tired cuz, burp, you've been running through my dreams all night..."

  • Hahahahaha... lines are turrible.

    They weren't that hot anyway. I just had fun fucking with them cause I didn't give a shit.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's always more fun when you don't care whether you succeed.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    it's actually the key even if you do want to succeed. Gotta train your mind. I'm in the early stages, but getting better slowly.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    One of the things I've found most "liberating" about getting older is really not giving as much of a shit about what people think of me.


  • my favorite SB comercial from last night:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hardee's know how to shoot an ad.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:


  • Question:

    Did anybody think, going into the playoffs, that the Ravens were a serious threat to take home the Lombardi? I surely didn't. Yeah, I know, they won their division and with Cincinnati's emergence, it's a tough division. But I would have taken the following teams over them. NE, Denver, Houston, SF, GB, ATL, and even Seattle.

    Proving once again, it's not how you get to the tournament, it's what you do once you get there.

  • As soon as they beat Denver, combined with Ray Ray announcing his retirement, I had a feeling that they would. They will go downhill from here though. Flacco will drain all the funds and the D will go downhill. 2nd, maybe 3rd in their division next year, 8-8 record.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    I think the Lewis announcement was a definite factor.

  • I did. Just sayin


    Wow, cool. Now I can finally capture those acrobatic masturbation sessions! Score!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    soloshow... get it? Get it??

    No... jesus, never mind.

  • #3

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    +1 Bane.

    That was funny in light of the fact Boomer E. was telling Mully and Handley that the initial take on things was terror. I guess the Press box row went total dark, some people were in the toilets and there was that moment, when everybody was wondering if panic was going to sweep across the stands.

    He also said that, while not on tv, security took the field and secured the corners of the field instantly. Weird.

    The City of NO has been adamant at pointing the finger at the Superdome infrastructure, saying all substations sent power and power never broke. Also, there was one report that said something was ringing an alarm prior to blackout.

    Given this is the city that gives lessons to Chicago in corruption, I doubt we'll get a straight story from anyone - but I do wonder what happened.

  • WITF!?!?!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Did I miss that one?

    Need some Old Milwaukee to make out with that women. After a twelver, that asian broad probably looks like this>

  • 1. Love Hester. He should be gone. A. If he stays, he's going to want practice snaps at WR (he's already "frustrated" at the lack of WR involvement, so if you want more of that, bring back Hester). B. Those practice snaps are valuable for building up chemistry between Cutler and a REAL WR, preferably one through the draft who can run a 4.4 and return, which I really think is going to happen. C. Hester still has instincts, but lacks speed. Couple that with his cowardice and malaise...gone. D. SOME TEAM will trade for him based on rep alone. Just last year Chico pretty much gave our O start at midfield because of Devin. We can get a 5th for him, and would be lucky at that.

    2. OT will be through F.A. Emery has already stated he uses FA to complement the draft, and once again he will try to fill as many holes as possible through FA so he will have the most "flexibility" in the draft. Needless to say, our biggest need is at OT. Couple that with the relatively deep OT FA class (Long, Clady, Albert, Vollmer, Bushrod...). If any $ left over, he'll sign a second tier TE like Keller or Davis if the price is right, and will undoubtedly draft one. I just don't think it'll be at 20. Luckily for us, TE is relatively deep this year. Eifert and Ertz should be there in the 20s and beyond, but other quality TEs will be available later as well. I personally don't think any TEs are worth a 20 spot...Olsen was selected around there, and we ended up getting a measly 3rd for him in his prime.

    3. long. Too much, and according to some stats, Webb later in the year outperformed him. Chew on that.

    4. Melton will get P-A-I-D. Other than Suh and Geno Atkins, Melton is the best 3-tech DT and will get paid as such. I hope to god Melton is reasonable about it though because I've read rumors of Jerry Jones wanting to get him in his new Marinelli 4-3 Who's Melton's agent again?

    5. Lach - it's all about money. If Lach is OK with a two year 4M deal, then he'll be back. If he wants 4M per year, it's been nice knowing you Lach. The silent treatment by Halas is really making me think they want to go a different direction.

    6. Trestman runs a WCO. He'll definitely target a pass catching TE, a precise route running WR, while retooling the line and maybe even getting a 3rd HB later in the draft. I see the Bears under Trestman completely focusing on fixing their O this year, much like the Pack focused almost exclusively on D last year.

    All the playoff games being in the 30s will only reinforce this new philosophy.

  • Does Emery draft a QB this year?

  • In reply to Shady:

    I don't think we can afford to. We need the picks for OL, IMLB, OL, and maybe TE.

    I would like to keep campbell (SKUUUUNK! which is funny cause that's the only one that could be right). I think it was a brilliant stateegery move by lovie to have him behind our oline in SF on that Monday night... Brilliant move to devalue him to all the league and allow us keep him for cheap this year. Thanks Loive!

  • In reply to Shady:

    Nope. We got a kid named Blanchard on the practice squad that IMO should not only be the 3rd QB, but should be given serious consideration to compete with Cutler. Maybe a hungry young QB nipping at Cutler's heels in a contract year will sharpen him up a bit.

  • serious consideration to a hungry young undrafted FA QB from Wisconsin Whitewater to compete with Jay..........

    Jesus dude. I want you to close your eyes, relax your mind and play out in your head what Matt Fucking Blanchard would look like playing QB for the Chicago Bears with our current team. Remember, Matt Blanchard.... not NCAA all yards leader Colin Kaepernick who was also drafter by MLB. Not Russell Wilson, not Andrew Luck, RG3, etc......

    I know the mind tends to wander to rookies when you see other rookies having succss but the idea of Matt Blanchard being given a chance for serious competition against Jay Cutler, to take away significant reps from Jay Cutler in the offseason and in camp as we are primed for playoff contention yet again is fucking crazy. Fucking Hanie Crazy.

  • Nothing wrong with a little competition. Seemed to work in Seattle and SF. Also, back in the day in another "statue" QB named Brady who didn't exactly shatter college records or light it up in the combine.

    Not saying all that will transpire again, but you never know. A little competition would be good for Cutler. And if he throws a fit, then he shouldn't be our QB period.

    Of course, Cutler will start, but you'd be surprised what a little competition could do to comfortable vets.

    Blanchard wouldn't be stealing any reps from Cutler besides maybe a few in August, but not many. We also gotta think of the future. What happens if Trestman decides this year that Cutler is no Steve Young, and that Cutler is not even a Rich Ganon? You can't guarantee that Trestman and Emery won't conclude that. If Emery really believed in Cutler that much, he'd already have him locked up right now for the next 6 years. He might say one thing, but his cash is saying another.

  • Competition worked in Seattle because Matt Flynn had 1 good game in GB. Russell Wilson was judged by some to be one of the best QB's in the draft with his height being the ONLY drawback. Wilson was also drafted by Major League Baseball and is a truly special talent.

    Colin Kaepernick is 6'4 230 with WR speed and was allowed to run the same offense that he did in college where he started for 4 years and threw for over 10,000 yards on a shitty Nevada team. He also has a TE that runs a 4'4, a first rounder WR in Crabtree who stepped up out of his mind in the slot this year, a top RB in the league, a top TE/FB in Delanie Walker, possibly the best OL in the league and a kick you in the fucking nuts defense.

    The only way to have a competition is to split reps plain and simple. Jay has shown no signs of being complacent with THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE actually being the case. As if he sat back on his laurels behind that line with no WR's up until last year and with a fucking drunk highschool coach calling the plays in a patchwork first year offense.

    We were 10-6 and were 3 dropped perfectly thrown passes on 65+ yard drives from 12-4 and a playoff berth. Why are we talking about this?

    He doesn't have to sign Cutler right now since he is under contract already and Jay is not holding out. Why would he blow his load until the year played out. The Bears will have enough clarification in due time. If Cutler leads us to the playoffs again and GLARING deficiencies are addressed then they will pay a premium for a franchise QB. If they determine that Jay is not the QB for the future and that another guy would be able to come in and do the job with the team that is in place then they will franchise him or trade him or whatever.

    Steve Young only became Steve Young when he got to the 9ers.....the same 9ers that made Steve Bono look like a serviceable QB. I hope the GM finally makes the moves they should have made 4years ago if not 8 years ago and that is to address the fucking offense. Then Jay will show what he can do in that context. The way he's been treated he deserves a chance to bring a well coached and talented team to the big dance before he's shown the door and we go through another fucking QB carosel for no good reason at all.

  • correction, they will pay him a premium or franchise him if we go to the playoffs, the deeper the run the higher the premium. NFC Championship game or higher and he gets locked up forever.

  • that and an oline that's not actually a fucking sieve

  • In reply to Shady:

    why would we draft a QB this year?

    The only QB's worth drafting are guys at the top and we're certainly not drafting a QB in the 1st or 2nd RD. That would mean we waste a pick on a 4th rounder or lower? No way mang. Also drafting a QB without addressing the core deficiencies of this team (OL, Coaching) is like buying the perfect go with your cheap, wrinkled suit.

    Pick a draft class, go into the 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th rounds and see what kinds of players are chosen that usually work out. They are not QB's. They are usually, OL, DL, LB, WR, TE

    You'll see new faces in camp this year in the following spots:

    OL, DL, RB, TE, DB, LB

    The current OL we have is poor.
    The current DL could use an upgrade or 2 at the very most.
    The current RB situation will look different as Forte and Bush are the only locks.
    The TE situation is up in the air as I could see all 3 being gone with Rodriguez being the only holdover.
    The backup DB's need to be better. Anthony Walters is not NFL caliber. Steltzy is not old necessarily but he is white so his shelf life will expire much quicker. McManis has a chance to compete but either DJ or Hayden will be gone. Hardin should get a shot at backup corner. He will die on the field at safety.

    Linebacker is a tough position to fill for the Bears because we may be departing from the need for a huge tightend to play LB in the middle of the field and defend passes 30yards down the seam.

    Briggs and Roach are locks. Urlacher if healthy and on the cheap is a decent player. Trahan, Thomas, Hayes are all "meh". Decicco is garbage.

    I could see a OL in round 1. Impact player in round 2 whether LB or TE.
    Free Agency will be interesting. I need to do some research on free agents TE's, WR's and LB's.

  • I was thinking now that we have a guy who can evaluate QBs in this organization, maybe this would be a good time to start developing one for the future. I understand there is a shit ton that needs a fixin' on offense, but you can't have too many good QBs. I just wonder if there's a guy out there Emery would pull the trigger on if available at the right spot.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I'd feel more comfortable developing the talent around the QB so that you don't have to use a #1 pick on them.

    Emery seems like a smart dude and I know Trestman would tell him if they needed to address it. Anyone know what Campbell's situation is? Was it a 1 yr deal?

  • Campbell was a one year $3.5 million deal. Pricey for a backup, but we can afford it until Cutler signs a new deal. Still, wouldn't it be nice to have a backup on a rookie's salary?

    We don't need Blanchard to beat out Cutler. We need Blanchard to beat out McCown and Campbell. That's where the competition should be this year at the QB position.

  • Here's a good list of FAs this season.

    TE has some solid options.

    Keller, Davis, Cook and Myers I'd consider solid options.

    WRs are gonna be too expensive after we resign our FAs and get an OT, but if we could get Amendola or cheap, that'd be a coup. Avery is also someone who can stretch the field.

    LBs IMO is garbage. A bunch of mediocre guys at best. If Lach were to hit the market, he'd probably top priority in a 4-3 for many teams.


  • I know this sounds crazy as all hell but with Trestman throwing to his RB's so much could you imagine Reggie Bush coming in as a running back that would line up in the backfield and routinely split out and match up against LB's? Fuck that would be pretty.

    Could have done that with Hester, Rodriguez and Forte all fucking year this past season. I wish I was GM.

  • That would be nice, but no way that's ever gonna happen. R. Bush still believes he's a 3 down back. That's why he left NO, that's why he's leaving MIA.

    I'm more worried that the Pack or the Lions will pick up up Bush. Man, that would suck. Hopefully, Cincy picks him up.

    I still want a hungry explosive HB through the late rounds or in UFA.

    Look at yesterday. Pierce looked a lot more effective than the all pro Rice. Rice just looked old and slow compared to the rook.

  • This is dumb, even for you Joe. Forte's probably better than anyone in the league at that role.

  • lol, first off, blow me Stache. I don't want him on the team, I just thought the concept of having a fast guy with awesome hands that could catch out of the backfield would be used and his picture was on the front page of the article.

    Since I've been actually living in a first world country for the last couple of years I'm already aware that Forte is fucking awesome at it. Hence my comment that we should have been doing it....all of the time. Also, since the line fucking blows cock to get Forte, hester and Rodriguez, Bennett, etc in the short passing game to neutralize guys raping our linemen it would have been nice for Tice to fucking do it.

  • If Lach were to hit the market, he'd probably top priority in a 4-3 for many teams.

    I have a feeling you're going to find out if that's true or not.

    I don't think it's true. I think Lack is done. More done than Kreutz. I could go into the reasons why - but I don't think you want to hear that.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Guys, Lach has hit the market. He's an unrestricted free agent this year. His agent, like any good agent, is working the phones. The Bears, like any good team, are looking at other linebackers in FA, the draft and possibly even via trade. He will know his market value when he sits down to negotiate a new deal.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The thing GP is that like Kreutz, Lach will bring in the intangibles, and that will appeal to some teams (like Cincy who has a shit load of cap and a need at MLB).

    I'm still on the fence about whether he is done or not. He sure looked done last season, but Lach has been very up front about how he was limited up until about the Seattle game, and then he tore his hamstring.

    Kreutz I knew was done. Lach - well, maybe he can start posting videos of him pulling a sled uphill like Forte or something.

  • Sign Branden Albert unless Emery knows something we don't.
    Trade out of the first round if we can pick up a second and third.
    2nd: Tavon Austin or Markus Wheaton R
    2nd: Kevin Minter LB or best OL
    3rd: Best TE available...Kelce?
    4th: CB or LB
    5th: DT or DE
    6th: Zach Line? A guy like Clutts who throws a block, makes a tackle at the right time

  • In reply to Shady:

    Has to. Only 5 picks though this year ....

  • Random SB reflections...

    - So, when the NFL ships out the Raven SB Blue-ray, will they edit out the Blackout - With the "unedited directors cut" option?

    - For me, the blackout totally ruined it for me. It sapped a lot of the urgency and drama. Like NBIT said, it did have everything, except it was interrupted by a 30min commercial break right after the other 30 min break which was Beyonce.

    It's like watching your favorite band in the middle of your favorite song take a 30 min intermission for no reason. Yeah, they're still good, but there's a reason nobody does that.

    - That was UNQUESTIONABLY a holding in the endzone by the Ravens. But the refs were not calling PI on either side. I remember the 9er DBs holding too earlier in the game. Then, if you want to go down the "penalty" road, how about the PI that wasn't called on the 9ers in the ATL game?

    PI has been a problem ALL YEAR, with the scrubs and pros, and needs to get fixed (don't even have to bring up that BS Seahawks game). PI more than any other penalty can decide games, seasons, and legacies.

    - Surprisingly, I found myself rooting for the Ravens when the game started. I didn't really want to root for any team, but once they started, go Ravens.

    Ray Lewis is still a sham with his whole, "IF God is for us, then who can be against us?" mentality (So I guess God is for a murderer and against Willis, by his logic), but the NFL is full of idiotic windbags.

    - I didn't drink, but after hearing an unscripted Marino and Sharp - I wish I had.

  • Addendum...

    That shot of Navarro Bowman sitting there shell-shocked as confetti filled the Superdome was perhaps the most depressing sports image I've seen in a while.

    Man, I know not all of us have lost a SB, but we've all probably felt as he felt at one point in our life.

  • lost the CIF semifinal game to the eventual CIF champs my senior year in HS. Sucks man.

  • +1

  • last one of the year:


    and this too:

    You're welcome.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    the usual. Crushing puppies

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "The only reason you were even IN this game is because Atlanta screwed up so royally".


  • Don't be surprised is it's the interior OL that's addressed, not the tackles. The Montreal team Trestman coached was the most sacked club in the CFL the season before he got there. They were the least sacked his first season with the team. I'm convinced they will pick the best available player at 20th. That being said this draft is deep at OLs and TEs.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    "That being said this draft is deep at OLs and TEs."

    This is why I'm guessing Emery will go OG later in the draft.

    Here are the top C/G thus far.

    Holmes (projected 4rth rounder)

    Then you have all the OTs who will be converted to OGs like Pugh, and prospects who will undoubtedly impress at the combine and workouts.

    I'd be very surprised if we go interior oline in the first 2 rounds unless someone like Jones or Cooper falls to us in the 2nd, which is unlikely.

  • I have a feeling that Emery will not draft for need. The only positions I think we avoid in the first two rounds are QB and RB.

    If we draft a WR, it likely means that Bennett will be a cap casualty, but I could see Emery trading the expensive hands guy for a lightning fast rookie to play the slot and stretch the field.

    If McClellin is an indication, I could see Emery making a play on another speed DL guy if an elite pass rusher drops to 20. We've got a solid D that needs to get better at hitting the quarterback. Just because we need a MLB, I don't see him feeling compelled to draft Te'o or Ogletree unless he really loves the player.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Do you think we would pass on a compliment to Forte in round 2? Are the bears OK with Bush? Something was fishy toward the end of last season.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    I think he was playing hurt toward the end of the season. I think Emery likes to think outside of the box and if a good enough talent at any position falls to us in round 2, we'll take it. But I also think we need to stack up some extra picks. If a surprise RB falls to us in either round (I don't think there are any superstars in round 1 this year though), then I could see Emery using it as trade bait rather than taking the player.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    Yup, it was the stink of the o-line, Ender .....

  • In reply to jdawg:

    Jdawg, what until you see the scheme. He dropped the sacks from the 60's to the 20's because they used a quick, rhythym based attack utilzing passes to the slot, RB's, TE's, etc with the QB getting the ball out of his hands.

    Trestman, pass to the RB's consistently, get the balls into the WR's hands quickly and stretch the field when needed, run 5 yard patterns when you need 4 yards...common sense type shit. I personally can't fucking wait.

  • common sense used in bears offensive football... what's that?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hand off to Walter

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Throw to Walter

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    uhhhh, most unfortunatly gents, that's not an option anymore.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ghost Walter?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The force is stronger with him now than it ever was.. ...

  • Blanchard at QB? That's what mini-camps and OTAs are for. Trestman will get a good enough look at him to see if he's worth spending snaps on in training camp.

    We will need a quality backup though - again. Maybe it's McCown (why not?)

  • In reply to BillW:

    uhhhhh... jason campbell people.

    is this thing on?

    haven't we tossed away enough talent who are now starting on other GOOD teams because we don't think they should get paid a bit? Who you ask, here's three off the top of my head...

    * D. Manning - starting safety for the devision winning texans
    * Corey Grahm - Starting corner for the SB champ ravens
    * Brandon Abande...whateverthefuckhislastnameactuallyis - Special teams star and package B for the ravens

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    For no good reason I am assuming "J Cam" will be gone. Though he did nothing to deserve it, I suspect he'll get a chance to compete somewhere as a starter. Thanks to the fact that our OL was so bad and SF made the SB, his performance will get a mulligan.

  • In reply to BillW:

    Campbell will not be a Bear next year. When he had a chance, he looked like hot garbage. I know it was against the ferocious 49er D, but he looked like he was shitting down his pantleg the duraton of the game. No one is going to give him a starting chance in 2013. He'll be battling for a #2 job next year.


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    And I agree we made mistakes with the three you mentioned, though Brandon Ayan-etc was probably not worth the cap space he was asking (as a special teamer). The thought was Toub could create yet another star there, and he essentially did.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jason Campbell might want to compete for a starting job somewhere, and no way we're going to be able to give him like 5M to be backup again.

    Our cap this year is gonna be tighter. Pepp's contract just shot up to 16M.

    Unless Campbell takes a significant paycut (or the Emery/Trestman have future plans for Campbell), I just don't see him back with the Bears.

  • I was banking on the fact that other teams wouldn't give him bill's mulligan for the shitshow on MNF and that he'd have to keep his back up spot. I guess a girl can dream

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    like those guys with corny lines hitting on the corona models at the bar, bwhaha

  • I posted further up on this. We don't need Blanchard to beat out Cutler, we need him to beat out Campbell.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    D Manning - Manning was decent but not great for us. With a 53 man roster, you have to let guys like that go to make room for the next batch of rookies. Also, he's playing in a completely different system than he played here; there's no guarantee that he would have shown improvement sticking in the Lovie-2.

    Corey Graham - He's probably a miss, but Ravens play a somewhat different system. More importantly, the culture on that team is very different. Graham went somewhere else, got a fresh start and stepped up his game. Plus, which probowl corner do you feel we should have benched for Graham this year? And if you want him playing nickel, I'm honestly not sure that would have made him happy.

    Abendayahoo - We've had a lot of special teams turnover in looking to fill backup spots on the roster. We got a former special teams probowler from the 49rs this year (Costanzo). ST pros move around, its the nature of the beast.

    You can't draft all the good players and you can't keep all the good players on your roster either. Good for all 3 of those guys, but I just don't see how any of those cuts is an inditement of the Bears.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    DManning - First modicum of stablity in our D backfield in years. Once he left, it started up again.

    CGraham - Neither, but I would 100% have chosen him over hayden who, as I've said a lot here, shit the bed almost every game he played in multiple times on big plays. He's terrible, and CG would most certainly have been better.

    On that note, not sure what DJ did, but he would probably have been better than hayden too.

    Abenda.... I was reaching a little on that one since no others besides Tjones (that would have been better actually) and/or benson came to immediate mind. But still.

    I get your point NB, but I’m really hoping the new regime is better at acquiring, coaching up, and keeping good talent.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    DManning - Agreed. Didn't we try to make the poor guy play every DB position available? No wonder he couldn't be a star, he was trying to learn 5 different positions...

    Graham - He was a great special teamer for us and looks like he plays pretty well in the field too.

    Ayan - We made the right choice, too expensive.

  • Titus Young available.

    Any takers?

  • No.

  • If we sign him I'm off this team.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    wow. I feel the same way, but about webb and/or davis staying

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Webb might make this team.

    Davis is gone

  • In reply to gpldan:

    yeah I know. upsets me... webb, not davis.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Webb is not only making this team, he will be starting at RT, maybe even LT. At minimum, swing tackle.

    Happy New Football Year!

  • Agreed. No way the Bears cut a tackle whos earning jack shit and has starting experience (as bad as he has been). Gonna have to accept it MB.

  • Would be interesting to see him go to a place like Jacksonville. Smaller market, nice weather, might mellow him out a bit. He could have a nice career opposite Blackmon.

    But he needs therapy. If I'm a GM, I'm having a full psych test done on the kid before he signs a deal. And I'm insisting that he do what the shrink recommends. And I'm putting him on a one strike deal, similar to what Seattle did with Ocho.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Good piece on the the situation:

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I remember commenting about the Bengals and Carson Palmer "what if a player says screw you, I'll play, but don't put me in the game." Everyone told me that nobody would actually sabotage a play on the field... who would be dumb enough to do that. They'd never get another contract. Right?

    Enter Titus Young. Hall of Fame baby.

  • We need the space for the freak receiver we're going to draft. Yes men, it's time to start being positive about drafts again. Thirty years now ...?

  • Some good points by John Mullin at CSN Chicago:

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Indeed, especially about Kaepernick and Crabtree not throwing teammates or officials under the bus. Good for them - classy.

  • What did Harbaugh tell that NOLA bureaucrat? A lip reader let's us know...

  • Hester is slow and admitted he's been calling it in the last two years. Bye bye Devin, we should have traded you when you were worth something.

  • fuck devin hester.

    Fucking vagina

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • Time to start watching tape again!!

  • Btw, unless Emery can swindle something, Hester is worth maybe a 5th round pick at the most.. If the Bears were to trade him, they would would probably get a 6th or 7th round pick.

    Jake Long wants to get paid and if that's the case then it's either Melton or Long. I doubt Emery will let Melton go. Young, healthy, and a quiet player.

  • The Urlacher and Hester situtaion will probably be resovled during camp.

    If Hester keeps complaining and if Urlacher doesn't have it, I can see them both getting cut after the first preseason game.

  • I know what Marc Trestman needs. An offensive line. It seems his offenses flourishes when he has a good offensive line.

    That might seem redundant but I haven't read much about how his quarterbacks have be very great without mentioning how great the offensive line is first.

  • It seems his offenses flourishes when he has a good offensive line

    - Thank you for the immense insight super obvious man.

  • -Thank you for the immense insight super obvious man.

    Always welcomed.. The main reason I said " That might seem redundant.."

  • Hester's probably getting cut 'too. Aside from being bad, he's due a pile of cash this year. There will be any number of speedy rooks to be drafted that will be better, cheaper returners. He's proven he has zero value as a receiver so I just don't see anybody giving up picks for him. Okay, maybe the Jets. But thats it.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    He's only due just under $3million in 2013 compared to $7.6million in 2012. I think there are escalator bonuses, but those are based on WR production and we know he isn't going to hit them. Not a massive hit, but it's certainly more enticing to other teams that would possibly be interested in trading for him.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Thanks DY. Less than I thought but still too much. The 7mil number seemed high but tolerable after 2011. 3mil after last year's performance is a waste of money. I'll take a speedy, hungry rookie who hasn't already declared he wasn't into it and might need a change of scenery.

  • I know everyone thinks the Bears go OL with first pick, but Trestman wants/needs offensive weapons first. Somebody like Tavon Austin, maybe, to make the west coast dink-and-dunk offense go

    Hester coulda been that kind of player, but he didn't like getting hit.

    Still also think Urlacher could switch to safety, where he played in college. But I may be crazy on that one.

  • In reply to editorface:

    Nope, you are for sure crazy.
    More than anything else, Lach has lost speed over the years, between injuries and the bulk he's put on since college.

  • In reply to editorface:

    the first 265LB 4.9 40, 39 year old safety in the history of the NFL!

    Yes please! While you're at it ef, why don't we put hardin in at the other safety spot.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'd go with Melton at the other spot. Imagine that guy laying the wood right?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, I shipped you that Hardin jersey you've been clamoring for.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    Awesome! Thanks Johnny.

    Where his number should be, is there just a big "?"

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No. They cut that part out so you can get the back brace on quicker in an emergency.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    Hahahah, dude, that's even better. I definitely want it now.

  • In reply to editorface:

    Still also think Urlacher could switch to safety, where he played in college. But I may be crazy on that one

    You should change your handle from Editorface to complete dipshit face.

  • I was going to go fucking crazy if you didn't call out this post.

  • you can always count on Da Coach for the kick to the balls.

  • I'm going to have egg all over my face next season when Joe Anderson is our #2.

  • In reply to editorface:

    Most shizo post of the year thus far.

    LOVE Tavon Austin. This guy can replace Hester immediately on KR/PR. He caught 111 for 1287 yds, 15 TDs, avg 11.5 yds

    He also ran for 652 yds and 3 TDs.

    Austin is small (5'9 171), but would be that perfect complement to Beast, Alshon and Bennett. Austin can be our Harvin. I'm with NBIT in trading down a little for a guy like Austin or a TE like Ertz or an OG like Cooper who I think are gonna be available in the mid-lower 20s.

    As for Lach to Safety...C'mon, man! This ain't Madden where you can turn most MLBs into SSs and raise their ratings by like 10.

  • Harvin is playing at almost 192lbs. He is fucking enormous compared to Tavon Austin. Harvin is big enough to play running back some of the time in addition to KR/PR and WR. Austin would die on the field if he was put at running back. He would simply die.

  • Wes Welker is 5-9, 185.

    WV lined up Tavon Austin all over the field against Oklahoma, including a number of plays at RB. Result: 344 rushing yards, and 572 all-purpose yards (that's second best all-time in NCAA).

  • In reply to editorface:

    Yeah, 185 of all muscle vs 170 is 15 pounds of muscle. Plus Welker doesn't play running back and Percy Harvin is called upon to do that. So would he be our Wes Welker or our Percy Harvin or should we call him our Randall Cobb?

    Do you know how much ass Garrett Wolfe kicked in college????

  • Watch some tape on Austin. You'll see him blocking with, dare I say, reckless abandon. I agree that he wouldn't flourish at running back but he's tough and willing to do what needs to be done.

  • In reply to editorface:

    Dude .. .are Evening Hills starting up a team ?


  • fb_avatar

    I know we all hate the Chicago Bear offensive lineman around here, but I think that people need to keep in mind that the line schemes will be different and may be better suited to some of our current linemen's strengths. We may see an improvement just through scheme and coaching. I believe Trestman when he says his priority is keeping Jay upright, and Lovie was somewhat unique in his bull-headedness in making mid season adjustments. We shall hopefully be seeing that particular problem go away.

    Just sayin, I know the Beloved will pick up some linemen, but I doubt it will be a total revamp of the line. Getting away from Tice (Meathead technique) to Kromer and Trestman who seem to be more focused on finesse may pay dividends none of you are expecting.

  • In reply to Chris Odom:

    We've been saying that every year since the superbowl run Chris...

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    +1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 etc.. etc.. ad nauseum et tu brute

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Webb is still starting MB.

    I'm just preparing you for the inevitable, like your best bud stating your fiance will get fat and the B.J.s will cease.

    Bang Bang!

  • yeah, I heard that from all my married friends before I took the plunge too. Unfortunately it's just one of those things you have to (painfully) experience yourself before you actually believe it can be logically true.

    aaaaaaaahh.... life is harsh sometimes maings.

  • In reply to Chris Odom:

    i hear ya but usually guys with "finesse" have awesome technique and fundamentals.....something our guys lack.

  • fb_avatar

    I know, I know. I don't post alot, but I tend to lurk. But, the thing is that it really IS different. Trestman is not Lovie, and assuming business as usual is shortsighted.

  • How long until Urlacher and Hester are Patriots?

  • In reply to Viva:

    March 12, 6am Eastern?

    Probably join Titus Young over there.

  • When Teddy retired, Belicheck brought in Zach Thomas and Junior Seau. Urlacher fits that mold. Established leader...knows the game.

    Bellicheck would give up something for Hester...need to research their production on specials last year.

  • In reply to Viva:

    the pats play a 3-4. Where are you putting Urlacher in a 3-4? You could listen to dipshit face and plug him in at safety.....

  • Lach might actually do better in a 3-4 where he is asked to do less pass coverage and is not responsible for as much of the field. He would do a lot more run stopping, but contact has never been a problem for him.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Not to mention that Bill runs more of a flex 4-3/3-4.

    He tailors his D depending on what personnel he ends up with after FA and the draft.

  • In reply to Viva:

    Lack is more Jet than Patriot.

    His ego and his desire to dominate the clubhouse would last about 3 seconds with Bellichek.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Not to mention Belicheck gets a lot out of older players that still have gas left in the tank.

    Urlacher is slow and incompetent.

    There I said what everyone knows

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    incompetent? Were'd that come from?

  • In reply to Viva:

    I want to be in the room when Belicheat first gets to talk to Hester.

  • Artoo sayz:

    Btw, unless Emery can swindle something, Hester is worth maybe a 5th round pick at the most.. If the Bears were to trade him, they would would probably get a 6th or 7th round pick.

    No GM is giving up shit for him unless that GM is Matt Millen or somebody equally retarded.

    Everybody knows we don't want Hester, and if you TRADE for him, you have to pick up his escalated contract.

    So, Bears RELEASE him, and some team can sign him to league minimum when nobody else is returning Hester's agent's phone calls. That's how business works, Artoo.

  • fb_avatar
    In reply to gpldan:

    Some team would lie to Devin about committing to him as a receiver just to put him back on specials full time. He wouldn't be a free agent long.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I sort of agree with GP, but still hold out hope that SOME team will be stupid enough to at least give us a 7th (aren't we missing a 7th this year?). Most likely Hester is released under the "courtesy clause".

    Pretty sad to see that no team will really offer anything for the GOAT returner, or for an eventually HOF and once DPOY in Lach.

    Sad Indian tear...

  • I don't know if you recall but Hester was brought in as a defensive back.

    I actually recall a game that Devin lined up at corner.

    He was a TURRIBLE corner. Just TURRIBLE. Liked contact even less than Neon Deion, which like saying less than zero.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I DO remember, which is why his recent remarks about going back to CB confound me all the more.

    Hester's like an old supermodel, once the physical attributes are gone, they have little else to offer. I think Hester is now desperately trying to recapture the glory of the catwalk, and much like an old supermodel branching out into acting or making an album, it rarely ends well.

  • Devin Hester.... I know Cindy Crawford. Cindy Crawford is a friend of mine. You, sir, are no Cindy Crawford.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Your name drop made my jaw drop.


  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    I don't really know her. It was a joke.

    She did go to NIU in Dekalb, though and grow up in some posh North Shore burb.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP, I think you're confusing Cindy Crawford with me. I'm the one who grew up in a posh North Shore suburb. While I didn't actually attend NIU, I spent a bit of time there as my GF back then did go to NIU. According to Wikipedia, Cindy was born in DeKalb and graduated from DeKalb HS as a valedictorian, actually won a scholarship to Northwestern to study chemical engineering (WTF?) but only attended for a quarter before starting her modeling career. So, like Mimi Rogers, another smarty-pants...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Have you heard Crawford interviewed Tobi? She has the personality of an engineer.

    I think I'd prefer some batshit crazy hottie like Lohan - at least I won't fall asleep.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I know where you're coming from as I was there once too. But after a certain point (or age), you'll find the constant drama exhausting and someone with the personality of an engineer (or accountant, for that matter) will be a welcome respite, at least for a while...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Jacoby Jones is Cindy Crawford. Hester is a 30 year old Nicky Minaj.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That was against the rams.

    You may recall that Hester gave up a touchdown playing corner in that game. But he was so pissed, he returned the ensuing kickoff for a t.d. He had two that game.

  • Cindy Crawford played against the Rams??

  • In reply to BillW:

    Cindy Crawford getting rammed?

  • Does anyone really give a shit about a 7th round pick?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Johnny Knox?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    5th rounder i believe

  • Correct.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Burfict. Wasn't Dent like an 8th or something? Alf Morris was a 6th rounder. 7th rounders are good ways to steal some high profile UFAs before they hit the market.

    Also, can use that 7th with a 5th to move up a few spots if need be. I just don't like releasing anyone without SOME compensation.

    You should see how I haggle with the computer in Madden on my Bears franchise mode.

  • Yes, I believe Dent was from a round that no longer exists., the 9th.

  • you're welcome:

  • Speaking of the Rams, they claimed TightAss Young.

  • In reply to BillW:

    Makes sense. They still need help at WR and they've got absolutely nothing to lose. They could cut him before training camp even starts if his mouth starts running.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Maybe he was just being a dickhead to get out of Detroit. Guess we'll see.

  • And now for something completely different...a buddy of mine who works for PIXAR sent me this...

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Very cool. Especially like the Falcons/Broncos and the Steelers/Giants, both very creative. The "Bills" was also clever.

  • OK, Harbaugh, the Younger, and Forty-Whiner fans, SHADDAP about the P.I. no-call. WAS it P.I? Damn straight it was. The DB had a handful of red jersey and that should have been flagged (Sam Shields on Alshon Jeffrey on 4th down anyone?) BUT, If you claim THAT one, then you have to give back the no-call on Flacco where he was CLEARLY hit late and out of bounds. A personal foul at that point would have set up the Ravens for a possible clinching TD, not mention running another couple of minutes off the game clock.

    For further evidence, listen to the KNBR (Local 49er's broadcast) call of the last play. They lay the defeat at the doorstep of the rookie QB as he

    A) Yet AGAIN engages in a game of "Play Clock Roulette"


    B) Heaves up a prayer that had little or no chance of being caught and lands well out of bounds making it easy for the zebra there to eat the flag.

    In general, I thought the officiating was pretty poor. An obvious Offensive P.I. on the Ravens was not called. The Flacco late hit. Cary Williams shoving an official and not being ejected. The endzone P.I. (even if it was ruled "uncatchable", which I never heard it WAS, it should at least have been defensive holding) and I thought the "Running into the kicker" should have been "Roughing the kicker" which gives SF 1st and goal instead of just the re-kick.

  • This should clarify a lot of things..

  • The guy I'm looking at is Juliues Peppers. 2013: $12.9 million, 2014: $13.9 million, 2015: $16.5 million,

    Those numbers are steep, even for a solid starter. He's probably worth the $12.9M this year and maybe next year, but 2015 is not workable. If I'm Emery, I'm on the phone with Peppers' agent right now talking about how to reduce the cap hit and allow Peppers to retire in Chicago. He's already 34 this year, so what can be done?

    He knows he's not staying in 2015 at that number, especially not at 36 years of age. So there's about $27M he expects to collect on this deal. Restructure to a 4-5 year averaging about $9M per year (what he made this year). Guarantee $27-30M of it, maybe $15M guaranteed for everything, $15M not guaranteed for injury. Or else half not guaranteed for another year or so. With a $9M average you've just shaved $4 million off the cap number that can go to Melton and other pressing needs.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Julius is not getting better next year. He can't. Ergo ......

  • Has this been posted?
    Jay Cutler is 1st in the NFL (4th overall) on Forbes annual poll of The Most Disliked Athletes in America.

    1) Lance Armstrong
    2) Manti Teo
    3) Tiger Woods
    4) Jay Cutler

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Crunch, are you intentionally baiting Waffle?

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    No, I'm starting to see the light. All these people can't be wrong.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    The only reason Jay is on the list, or that high on the list, is because he is married to a reality TV star. Many people form their opinions from gossip rags like US, People, ESPN Insider, and Sports Illustrated. Or TV gossip programs like Entertainment Tonight, and gossip stations like the E! network, ESPN, and the NFL Network.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    I'm proud of my ignorance of reality TV stars. I have no idea what made Kristin a celebrity, or the Kardashians, or countless other reality people.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    naked hooker sex act tapes for the most part.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Video tapes?


  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    hahahaha... you're better at that stuff than me maings. I've seen the paris hilton sex tape (so hot!), but not kims. I'd love to see it... she's got awesome tits.

    Make it happen Buttsteak!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm already stalking the Trestman family. Let someone else do the players' wives.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Oh, just google that shit MB! Has the internet really made us that lazy that we expect porn others just to link it to our laps?

    Remember the good ole days when we had to make out boobs between the static on the naughty channels, or scavenging through J.C. Penny catalouges to see a nip get through!?


  • Oh, I still do that.

  • Eaaaaaasssssssy!

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    Cutler needs to pull a reverse Kekua.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    Didn't the NFL poll all the players about who is the most disliked and Cutler finished only behind Suh?

    In other words, every media outlet, and nearly everyone who has ever met Cutler thinks he's a douche.

    Cutler should embrace it though. I would. I would put on a leather jacket and ride a Harley straight to Oakland with a middle finger in the air...they'd love him over there.

  • Jay be a dentist...

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    or El Generalissimo...

  • So most of the NFL players only know Cutler based on media reports. I don't know the answer, but how many ex-teammates of Cutler have ripped on him in the press? Former teammates at Vanderbilt, Denver, and Chicago? The only thing close I can recall was DJ Moore made some comment about Cutler bumping Webb last year, or something like that. I don't recall any former teammate ever throwing Cutler under the bus. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

  • In reply to The Fifth:

    Jay has been in the league long enough for many players to get to know him. Not exactly to write a bio about him or to call him a friend, but well enough. Many players say they are too busy during the season to even watch all those sports shows or listen to talk radio - the avg fan probably is more subjected to that than the players during the season.

    And why Jay anyways? Of all the players, the media conspired to randomly choose Jay as the fall guy? Other players weren't exactly "media friendly" (didn't Randy Moss do a vow of silence for like a year?)

    Not saying Jay's a dick, but where there's smoke, there's usually fire.

    I personally believe Jay was a jerk early in his career, but has matured a bit more as of late, but once you get that rap early, it doesn't go away easily.

    Jay just might be one of those guys that very few ppl can like. Everyone has a friend like that. You throw a party, and you like him, but all your other friends hate him, so you sorta have to hang out with him on the side.

    The Doc Holliday of the NFL, though even Doc Holliday in "Tombstone" is 10 times more likable than Jay.

    That's just my take. I really don't care since I'm not gonna hang with him, as long as he brings us the Lombardi, but many see the "character flaw" in him as part of the reason why he may never be that guy.

  • I've listened to his show on W&S maybe a dozen times now. He sounds like a decent guy to hang out with. Not life-changing or anything like that, just someone I wouldn't mind having as a neighbor or something like that. I don't work with him, but his WRs seem to like him (Bennett and Marshall have both publicly tweeted good things). I think people don't like him because the media has decided to make him a "bad boy" and because he hasn't won anything big yet. If the Bears win the Superbowl next year, he's off that list completely.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Well, at least Cutler is #1 in the NFL in something...

  • 4ever85, are you intentionally baiting Waffle?

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Jay is 3 spots higher than Michael Vick. For ...... ?

    1. Apparently whining when playing in Denver. I have no opinion on this.

    2. Failing to convince the Bears medical staff during the NFC Championship to let him continue to play with a sprained MCL

    3. Throwing Devin under the bus exactly once in relation to him not being a 'go up and get it receiver'. Unfortunately, Devin wasn't even a 'run downfield and catch it' receiver either.

    4 Saying "Y'know.", waaaay too much..

  • The funny thing is, Mike Shanahan isn't on the list, but I'm sure he's one of the most hated men in Washington right now for what happened to RG3. Having your starting QB get a bad knee is just a lousy situation, but "the public" has to blame somebody no matter what you do about it.

  • Reports about the Ravens letting go two players..

    Boldin and Jones..

    Let the MB man-crush begin.

  • Boldin let go? Mindbottling.

  • This cannot be true. How? That would be ridiculous!

    Listen to me emery you fucking nerd. Get us my man-crush RIGHT NOW! RIGHT NOW YOU HEAR ME!!!!

    Pick him up for vet min. post haste!!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Beast mode, JJ and Boldin. Forte and Bush. Impressive. Still no f**king protection.

  • Breaking news from Thailand.

  • I don't really respond too angrily at those "most hated" lists anymore. I just think it's sad that true killers, rapists, abusers, felons, dead beat dads, drunk drivers, drunk drivers who killed people, criminals who did time, life long cheats who profited off of their lies and bullying, etc are given passes. Sure some of those guys are mentioned once in a while but you can always count on someone in the media, or fake wannabe media to go for a quick, easy, lazy pageview driven hit piece on Jay Cutler. It's unfortunate given the great things the guy does off the field and the effort he shows on it. Think about it. It's pretty crazy.

    Whatever though man, i'm sure Jay is doing just fine. Now get the guy a fucking Tackle and a motherfuckng TE that is not a huge pussy for god's sake and let's fucking go to the playoffs.

  • It's odd that Cutler would rise to the top this year, of all years. I wonder if the coach-killer meme, or the various RG3 related crap, had something to do with it.


    I hope for his sake he's either talking fucking sense into his agent, or firing him right now.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Another 10-6 team wins the SB. They lose 4 of their last 5 regular season games, get hot in the playoffs, and now the dude wants a 100 million dollar payday. Well I hope they give it to him.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Its all a show. The owner of the Ravens is on good terms with Joe. I don't see this getting ugly. It'll be like what happened with Drew Brees. The deal might take a while to get done, but they'll make it work and everyone will be happy. I think the biggest issue isn't the Raven's desire to sign Flacco for big money, its the salary cap. They'll talk about how to make it work behind closed doors.

    My expectation is that it will be a cap friendly contract with a big total value because of the number of years. Something like 8 years with a $15M per year average; big signing bonus up front to allow the team to handle the cap hit as other contracts become an issue.

  • seriously?

  • There is some serious question about how the Forbes list was generated - that is, how the question was worded, if the respondents were given a pre-selected list to choose from etc.

    I need to look it up, but it seemed to me possible that it's phrsed - of the following athletes, who do you like the least? Not liking someone is not the same as hating.

    SunTimes actually defended him (Morriseey of all people) saying it stems from the NFC champ game - and it was the Bears fault for not revealing the extent of the injury - leaving the impression that Cutler took himself out of the game. I can see doing that in case the Bears won - no reason to divulge the extent of the injury in prep for the SB - but agter the game they never came to his defense - except I think when confronted.

  • Per jeff's twit feed:

    Really? How often do the teams that finished 1-5 the previous year, do so the next? This is an idiotic and futile exercise.

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