CFL Video: Why Trestman's Alouettes Record Means Nothing

CFL Video: Why Trestman's Alouettes Record Means Nothing

I am confident in one thing after doing some exhaustive research regarding Marc Trestman and the CFL: none of his success in Montreal will translate to Chicago. This does not mean he won't be a terrific NFL coach but these sports are not similar.

For instance, explain to me what happens here:

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  • Ummm.... the Alouettes win?

    Then they sing their fight song:

    Alouette, gentille Alouette
    Alouette, je te plumerai
    Je te plumerai la tête
    Je te plumerai la tête
    Et la tête!!!!!!!!
    Et la tête!!!!!!!
    Alouette
    Alouette
    O-o-o-oh

    Brings a tear to my eye everytime. Loosely translated from the original French, it basically says "there's a time and a place for hard fucking, and that time is now."

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Ha!

    By the way, from the last thread, MB's dates name is Prudey McHotty.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    excellent.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    What the pluck? Why are there so many disturbing childrens songs?

  • In a fucked up sort of way, that game clip shows CFL is more "foot"ball than the NFL.

    Still though, what the fuck was that?

  • MB,

    Do share....

  • Chicago Bears: Debating the Head Coaching Candidates Part One

    http://www.footballnation.com/content/chicago-bears-debating-the-head-coaching-candidates-part-one/20759/

    I'm still disappointed in Trestman.. a little bit.

  • What worries me most about Trestman is not his resume, but the intangibles. As a head coach one must be the leader of men, and not just an offensive guru or an Xs and Os master (see McDaniels, Josh).

    But only those interviewing Trestman can judge his intangibles, so we're going to have to hope Emery's instincts are correct.

    On The Score they were saying Trestman is the offensive version of Dick Juron, an "overly" academic strategist who might be better at coordinator...not exactly a ringing endorsement, though they hate every candidate, and if Halas were to return from the dead, they'd find a way to criticize the Bears for hiring him, "The game has passed him by...Oh, and he's a zombie."

  • What the Argonaut in the endzone should have done, is hike the ball back out of the endzone between his legs. In that case, the Alouette is not allowed to simply catch it and punt it back. He must, at that point, possess a badminton racket.

    If he can produce the racket, he may swat the ball into the endzone, which is 7 points immediately, as soon as it breaks the plane, with no extra point needed.

    It's the Argonauts coach (his name I think is Jason) who is clearly the weaker coach, his players should have known this.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    dude, you are on fire this morning... fucking hilarious!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The Argonauts coach in 2010 was Jim Barker. He never got the Golden Fleece, but he did win the Annis Stuckus award for best coach that year.

    Annis Stuckus:

    "Annis Stukus was one of the famed Stukus brothers. Both Bill Stukus and Frank Stukus were Grey Cup champions. Indeed, while with the Argonauts all three played in the backfield at the same time, and won the Grey Cup together in 1938."

    Wikipedia doesn't say how the name is pronounced (ey-nuhs stuhk-uhs?)

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    What, no Richard Stukus, aka, Dick Stukus?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    +1 on the Jason and the Argonauts ref.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    But I don't understand the relevance of the four-point inflection rule, or the passage-of-time clause in the overnut play scenario. For example, what happens if the over-back shimmies the ball and the 2-end kicks it before the buzzer sounds? Clearly the offensive side of the ball has the advantage there in the absence of telluride seam-plays. Or have I misunderstood the hooplah amendment?

  • "I can't imagine a scenario in which he'll be a Jacksonville Jaguar — even if he's released by the Jets”
    - new Jags general manager David Caldwell, on Tebow, yesterday

    Tim,

    Time to sign up for that South American mission. You have the time on your hands starting in the spring. You can teach them to Tebow.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    At this point, I'm starting to feel a little sorry for the guy.
    Sort of.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Don't.

    Dude's a millionaire.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Why doesn't he just play fullback? I think he will. It's ultimately going to be that or no NFL for him.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    as GP mentioned, there are many mud huts to be errected (see how I did that) and wells that need to be dug... all by a better man than me.

    Have at it timmy... your true calling is... calling. Buh bye.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://tinyurl.com/a9asbye

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    Exactly. I swear the guy could play TE or at least play the position better than Kellen Davis.

  • Erik, my left testicle can catch and block better than davis. (the right not so much)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Beat me to it.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    he beat you to his nuts?

    interesting.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    No. I clearly said "He's beating my nuts."

  • First, if you didn't watch any of the computer nerd clips Irish posted last thread, you should. Nerds are cool. and if you're at all interested in how this very board was born, the vid is awesome.

    Second, I am not you rhesus monkey pet, performing silly little tricks at the end of your organ grinder’s leash for your deviant voyeuristic pleasures!

    ...ok, who am I kidding... yes I am.

    Let me put it this way. She’s a very cute girl, not my ideal body type (aka, no huge, fake boobs), but she’s a cutie... face 7.5, body 6 (see aka above), so I give her a 7 total. She wasn’t as prude as I thought, but she ended up being as uptight as I thought. That’s all you get... vultures!

    Rabbit… your turn (yes, he got his first post-divorce lay this week, have at him! ((sorry maings, I’m not doing this alone))).

    (NB, did I just get myself in trouble?)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm just glad you're alive MB. JJ tweeted you were dead. Said you passed out face down in splayed labia and suffocated. Something
    about Blowfish toxins. On a side note: if I ever start a speed metal band or buy a race horse, I'm naming it Splayed Labia.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    I really like that name

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Their opening act could be "'Taint no Thang" (R&B Duo)

  • In reply to gpldan:

    that's just as good.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Is that a legal question or a religious question?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Uptight? Better than uploose. At least until YOU'RE done with her.

    So you had a good time then. Good.

    P.S. It's never a bad thing to have a girlfriend with inroads to pharmaceuticals.

  • soupcan Doc, soupcan.

    True that my man. btw, know anyone who needs 1,532 zastra inhalers... cheap?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Kudos on having a date full stop.

    And for the nerdiest nerds in nerd-dom, check out the nerds in "Get Lamp : the text adventure story". I defy anyone to find me more nerd-like looking nerds.

  • Sounds like Trestman went to Canada to get HC expeeince - how to lead a team, organize practices, make roster decisions, etc. Two chanpionships later I think he proves he can do that. Sure, the game is different, but everyone is acting like he has no knowledge or experience with NFL football - and clearly he has a LOT.

    I trust Emery; the fact that he is considering him shows he is being thorough.

    Whoever is hired, we can be sure Emery did not make a qiuck decision based only on reputation or gut feeling. Andy Reid's hiring in KC was likely that - not saying he won't be successful but it doesn't sound like they gave it any thought either.

  • In reply to BillW:

    Jimmy Johnson tweeted that Trestman got the Chicago job. I don't know how Jimmy Johnson can use a computer but it's up there on NFL.COM.

  • And by the way Jeff, I disagree that his record means "nothing". He won two championships. No matter how different the game is, there is still talent evaluation, game planning, execution etc necessary. Getting to the top twice in a professional game can't be just luck.

    Having Rodgers as your QB and McCarthy really running the offense makes Tom Clemments more suspect.than two CFL championships make Trestman suspect.

  • In reply to BillW:

    Emery wants excellence in previous positions. Trestman has shown that he can be excellent as a CFL coach. He understands how to succeed at a professional sports level - how to be a champion caliber leader. Its a good start.

    Put it this way... if Trestman was a mediocre CFL coach, would that be a deal breaker?

    The same calculus applies to college coaches. Nobody is considerng Lane Kiffin for a return to the NFL right now - he can't even succeed at USC.

  • What the hell was that? Rugby?

  • nah. rugby makes sense.

  • Falcons have won 56 games in the last five seasons. They are 13-3 with a first round bye, going against a team that went coast to coast, played an emotional comeback game, few back to the left coast this week, and is flying BACK to Atlanta today, to square off against the team with the bet record in the NFC. In their house.

    And - the line is ONE point. And now, Vegas is looking at even money with the dollars coming in.

    Ryan is 0-3 in the playoffs, as is Smith.

    Time to put up or shut up, Atlanta. Me? I'll take Wilson in the blue.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHtgKIFoQfE

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I see Atlanta winning this one. However, I don't see them winning any more games after that.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yup. Defense wins champs. SEA v DEN. Never got sold on Meg Ryan.

  • So I got a 2013 Bears calendar for Christmas. It's pretty cool, says when the dif playoff games are on and SB.. but something struck me. Johnny Knox is the player for June. I'd say thats rather optomistic but we'll see.

  • He's the Centerfold isn't he?

  • Well if any of you folks are ever headed to Europe, I cannot recommend Amsterdam highly enough. To all you beer lovers, this place was fantastic.

    http://www.brouwerijhetij.nl/

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Yes. Beer. That's why people travel to Amsterdam. It's the beer.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Yeah. Definitely the beer. uh-huh.

  • sweet sweet hash and...

    ...how much is that super hot ukrainian hooker in the wiiiiindoooow?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Better watch if they catch you window shopping, one of them came out to have a massive rant at one of my mates for not ponying up to see the goods.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    ... the one with the wagg-elly clit ....

  • In reply to Shady:

    Thought the rest needed no explanation.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Been there 3 times and loved Palm beer, which is brewed by Belgian monks. I guess that's what they do all day in monasteries, in between giving each other head.

    Is it hard to buy grass now what with the Wietpass ?

  • I see I come a bit too late for the thread, but anyway...

    I used to live in upstate NY and get some CFL games. As Mully and Hanley pointed out today, the rules are different, such as 3 downs, 12 men, and a 110 yard field (not even 100 meters that would make more sense).

    They also had a "no yards" rule, which meant that the kickers had to stay 5 yards away from the returner, meaning that there are no fair catches.

    In this case, I seem to remember that a punt in the end zone is one point if it is not taken out, rather than a touchback. So, they didn't have to make the field goal.

  • In reply to jack:

    I think it has to go out of the endzone, Jack.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Upon further review, you are right (I think).

    The missed FG would have resulted in a single point being awarded to the kicking team if the receiving team had not kicked (or run) the ball out of the endzone (I think).

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I think the Single would have been awarded to the kicking team in this case if A) the receiving team failed to kick or return the ball out of the endzone or B) the ball traveled out of the endzone after the missed FG attempt (provided the ball did not hit an upright).

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I think we're in agreement on that.

    The interesting point is that if the narration were not there, U.S. football viewers would just say that it was a bad punt, or Devin Hester taking the missed field goal the other way; not that the score depended on it.

  • In reply to jack:

    I'm just glad I'm not Canadian. It's stressful enough worrying long, game-winning FG's in the final seconds. Add "Single's" to the mix and I'd have a heart attack.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    No dote, eh?

  • I have a 60 dote bag.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    ... unless the crestfall drops on the pinchback, in which case it's a two point fannypat.

  • Back from Lunch in the Willis (Sears) Tower. All I heard walking along was...

    brrr...Canadian...CFL....Lovie...Bears....coach....

    from damn near everybody

    So, based on this I would say Emery has a PR issue here. Either he addresses it or ignores it, but if Trestman is really his guy, I can imagine he's not going to make anybody being interviewed this weekend very happy, esp. Bruce Arians.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    See my "news in the internet era" comment below, posted while you were posting.

  • And now the point, I wanted to raise here: "news" in the Internet era.

    I turned on Mully and Hanley at 7:00 for Biggs Time, when Mully popped to Briggs that Johnson tweeted that Trestman was going to Chicago. Briggs said that, in light of the continuing interviews and such, that made no sense. Yet, there is a 7:42 story on the Tribune where Briggs essentially repeats the story. Then, within the last few minutes, Briggs says on the Tribune site that Trestman sent an e-mail denying it.

    Whatever happened to verifying news stories? Or is the only story that Johnson tweeted something, regardless of the content?

  • In reply to jack:

    Twitter set fire to the AP Rulebook. Burned it to a crisp, then defecated on it.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Btw, are you Jenny Milk jack or another jack?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I haven't changed my login, if that's what you're asking.

    Jenny Milk quit blogging. On the other hand, I started boycotting other sites (mostly finding it futile to argue with right wingers and Catholics with no sense; one blog combined the two).

    But basically, I cruise the right pane, except for blogs that have only Facebook comments. Fortunately, Jeff decided to get out before that might be imposed on him.

  • In reply to jack:

    Shame Jenny quit blogging. I guess she ran out of things to say about her poop and what her husband thinks about it.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Part of it was that she said her husband said he didn't want her to tell what he thought about it. Also, I got the impression that she had to go out and make a living at other than her parents' liquor aisle. But it was fun while it lasted.

  • In reply to jack:

    You're THAT jack?!

    interesting. I always thought you were lacan.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Not enough references to Sartre to be Lacan...

    What ever happened to that Jack?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    My opinion has not changed for years - Twitter sucks.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    +1.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Twitter will prove useful for something, I haven't figured out what yet, but it might be in education.

    By the bye, Cringely did a sequel to the empires thing, the birth of the internet.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMvASPzXE-M&list=WL8AF7F930131B87EF

    Think roulette is a game of chance ? 30:00 ....

  • In reply to jack:

    The last part is exactly what happened. Johnson tweeted it and everyone believed it.

  • Sweeeet Lou Canelis is now on WLS-AM, and besides decrying this as totally outside of Emery's character, said "all the sudden the twitterverse is becoming gospel."

  • In reply to jack:

    The thing is Jimmy Johnson is not exactly Adam Shefter and isn't known for breaking news. Couple that with his friendship with Trestman, and it seemed very plausible.

    Kinda like when Rob Lowe broke the Peyton Manning news on twitter.

    The unlikely source actually made everyone say, "It must be true!"

  • Looks like Jeff did his 'exhaustive research' at the same place I do mine. Here you can find what happens in the vid:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_American_and_Canadian_football#Open-field_kick

    Sorry if it's been posted. CN wouldn't let me log-in. POS.

  • It's your last sentnece, jack. The story is the tweet, not whether Emery made a decision.

    But I quickly misread an SI headline earlier today and thought they were reporting JJ's tweet as if Trestman was going to be announced.

    Biggs was doing his job - the story was all over the place and he had to acknowledge it; he tried to comment from Halas Hall.

    But with Trestman denying it now, it's dead.

  • In reply to BillW:

    The point I was making was that Briggs couldn't ignore it once Mully asked him about it at about 7:04.

    But Briggs didn't say in his Tribune report at 7:42 is that The Score was the reason he reported it on the Tribune site. Whether he would have found the tweet independently, or whether Mully's staff did, is, of course, another question.

  • In reply to jack:

    Mully is another beat reporter for the Sun-Times when he's not on the radio. I think the beat reporter fraternity stipulates you don't have to attest each other as sources.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    He was, but took the buyout when the going was good. Hanley eventually did too. Now, Mully and Danny Mac are freelancers for the Tribune (and Danny Mac for the NW Indiana Times, etc.).

    Now, whether Biggs has to acknowledge Mully as a fellow Score or Tribune contributor may be another matter. But Biggs was sure dumbfounded on the radio.

  • In reply to jack:

    Yeah - I heard that whole exchange live too. It was interesting given it was the first Biggs heard it.

    Good ethics question you raise - maybe Biggs should have credited the Score as his source.

  • BTW - Brad Biggs is great. I've actually considered getting a twitter account just for him.

  • In reply to BillW:

    I saw him up close at Bourbon Haze. The man sweats italian beef aus jus.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Well said.

  • OK - off the wall but it's Friday...

    I've wondered for a while if Gruden was in the picture anywhere. And that he wanted it a secret while he made up his mind.

    It's not like the Bears (and not for money reasons) but I wondered if Gruden was a consideration here. Remember - Emery said ideally he'd have this wrapped up beore one of the college all-star games. That can't happen if he picks a co-ord from a team in the Super Bowl.

    Johnson tweeted what he did for SOME reason. I really doubt it was to create a market or interest in for a friend.

    Trestman was the OC for Gruden in Oakland - as pointed out by a poster on PFT.

    Hmmm...

    Or maybe not.

  • In reply to BillW:

    The one thing all the tweeting and the Brian Kelly stuff today indicated is that, of course, the parties have people working behind the scenes on their behalf. The stink about Kelly is that he had his people working BEFORE the BCS bowl. Hence, if Gruden were really out there, someone would know, and, again, Emery wouldn't still be going through the interview process.

    But, in any event, while we don't know how much Gruden makes from ESPN (maybe somebody does), it was accepted that if Lovie would have got $5 million, and Payton got an extension at about $7.5, Gruden would have been even more than that.

  • Hey MB - If your date was a 7.5, what's Milkowski? A 6?

    http://www.jennymilkowski.com/#!recent-work/chpz

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'd go with 7 fkat gp. I thought jenny wasn't all that pretty in the face but looks like she has some nice boobage... something that gets a multiplier for me. And jenny seems to be a fireplug and she's probably a tiger in bed (guessing of course). If all that is true...

    So I'd say they average out to around the same give or take .5.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Fucking phone

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ok just watched her video. Def butter, I just downgraded her to a 5 or 5.5.

    Sorry jenny.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I said at the time that she looked kind of mean. Also, it was quite clear who her husband was, so I don't get turned on by married women. As for boobage, there was an item on her blog about her vs. Sarah "Cleavage" Spain.

  • In reply to jack:

    I'd say she's a small c or a big b. I prefer in the dd range... if anyone's taking orders.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    How about the box, was it as shallow as you expected?

  • In reply to Shady:

    hahahahahaha... funny.

    taking the night off. get online later maings.

  • In reply to jack:

    Who is her husband? Jimmy Cagney?

    "You're the dirty snake.... see... who ogled my wife.... see.... you rat..."

  • In reply to gpldan:

    No. Matt the assistant producer or something on Windy City Live.

  • It's been eight months since the demise of a goldfish in France sparked the confrontation that left carpenter and amateur pet-sitter Philip Emery dead in a water tank southwest of Paris, bludgeoned by a hammer-wielding neighbor known only as Mario.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2142992/Philip-Emery-murdered-friend-goldfish.html

    #unexpectedsearchresults

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I bet he pronounces his name

    'Phee-leep'

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    but that is a classicly tragic french story.

    Such a tragic loss of life...

    ...oh yeah, and the french guy too.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Fuck with Le Super Mario's goldfish, you get the hammer.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    guess so

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Viva la resistance!

    http://youtu.be/JYtlvzQ7GV8

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I hate it whenever I hear that happening.

  • What do people have against goldfish?? They torture them by putting them in small containers of colored water so people can pay money to throw ping pong balls at them. And you never hear of some Hollywood star with a teary eyed plea for money to help them out...

    Yeah - it's a slow day at work.

  • In reply to BillW:

    Or feed them to their pet piranhas...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    As i recall, longtime, long deceased, Sun-times columnist, Jack Griffin actually HAD a piranha.

  • From Dan Pompei (Twitter, Sulia):
    ...........................
    Today brings great news for the Bears on the draft front:
    Alabama underclassman OT D.J. Fluker is going pro. This is a huge prospect who is clearly first round material. He might be gone by the time the Bears pick at 20 (one scout said he thought he would be a late first rounder; others say he'll go mid first), but if so his presence will push down other OTs on the board. Said one front office man, "He is one of the biggest, most physically impressive kids I've ever seen." Every running back in the NFL should be lobbying for his team to take this guy. Fluker might be a right tackle only in the NFL, because he is better at run blocking than pass protecting.
    ......................
    http://sulia.com/channel/chicago-bears/f/8557a154-8f3a-4e17-987d-577becb2fd20/?source=twitter

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    meh....

    I've heard of that guy. He's a fluke.

  • Would that make his mom a "Mother Fluker"?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Why don't you ask him?

    http://twitter.com/DjFluker76

    He calls himself "Hulk 76 Alabama," all in caps.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    CB Milliner and HB Lacey declared for the NFL too.

    Fluker declaring is also good for the Bears because that means that guards like Warmack will be pushed down the board, and might fall in our lap.

    Millner will most likely get drafted before us too (Maybe even to the Lions or the Dolphins), and since we don't need a CB, again that means better options for us. We effectively moved up two spots by these guys declaring.

    Lacey will be a solid runner the NFL, kinda like Ballard for the Colts this year. I see him going in the 30s or later (Pack might kick the tires on him).

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I'm tired of Bears tackles that run block better than pass block. Emery needs to find two complete tackles. Ones that play the run and pass well.

  • Pompei also said that he "heard" Emery's interview with Trestman went 8 hours.

  • I know some take issue with the Rooney Rule, but I really don't because even if it doesn't really work as intended, at least it gives some fresh new blood a chance to go through the process.

    I would take it a step farther. I would introduce

    "The anti-Nepotism Rule" - aka, "The Ryan, Shanihan, Polian Rule".

    This is where a candidate who is not related to ANYONE in the NFL or Division 1-A must be interviewed

    "The Anti-cronyism Rule"

    This is where a candidate who is not friends with any other NFL or Division 1-A H.C. or G.M. must be interviewed.

  • 2012 All-Rookie Team (PFW)

    Offense

    QB Robert Griffin III / Redskins

    RB Alfred Morris / Redskins

    RB Doug Martin / Buccaneers

    WR T.Y. Hilton / Colts

    WR Justin Blackmon / Jaguars

    TE Dwayne Allen / Colts

    Center — None

    OG Kevin Zeitler / Bengals

    OG Amini Silatolu / Panthers

    OT Matt Kalil / Vikings

    OT Mitchell Schwartz / Browns

    Defense

    DL Fletcher Cox / Eagles

    DL Chandler Jones / Patriots

    DL Bruce Irvin / Seahawks

    DL Michael Brockers / Rams

    LB Bobby Wagner / Seahawks

    LB Luke Kuechly / Panthers

    LB Lavonte David / Buccaneers

    CB Casey Hayward / Packers

    CB Janoris Jenkins / Rams

    S Harrison Smith / Vikings

    S Mark Barron / Buccaneers

    Specialists

    PK Blair Walsh / Vikings

    P Bryan Anger / Jaguars

    PR T.Y. Hilton / Colts

    KR David Wilson / Giants

    ST Johnson Bademosi / Browns

    http://www.profootballweekly.com/2013/01/10/pfwpfwa-2012-all-rookie-team

  • For those keeping track of McClellin-Jones, here's a little tid bit.

    "A pair of pass rushers bookend the D-line. Patriots DE Chandler Jones was an early favorite for defensive rookie honors before an ankle injury slowed him and he finished with six sacks. Irvin, a pass-rush specialist, led rookies with eight sacks, proving he was far from the reach that many considered him to be as the 15th overall pick."

  • sigh

  • PFW's All Rookie QB is Robert Griffin III?

    Is that RGIII's consolation prize for being outplayed by Russell Wilson in a head-to-head playoff matchup. The same rookie Russell Wilson who also just HAPPENED to tie Peyton Manning's rookie record for TD passes (In 182 FEWER attempts, BTW) while only being picked-off 10 times (or 18 FEWER than Manning's rookie season) ?

    What an embarrassingly bad selection.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I think valid arguments can be made for RG3, Wilson and Luck.

    What a rookie QB class.

  • 8 more TDs in about the same attempts for Wilson and as for Luck, 18 picks and QB rating in the 70s makes him a clear also-ran this year..

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Griffin plays on an East Coast team. Case closed.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    PFW is based in Chicago

  • ok, just watched the video. what in the sam christ on a bike hell was that shitshow?!?!

    Are you fucking kidding me?!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    that is NOT football.

    the ball was ooot

    Also, that kicker fucking put that thing in orbit. holy shit.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    They call that football? They use their feet too much. Canadians, they all want to be the punter. They boot the ball at every opportunity, no matter how blatantly it violates the rules of the game.

    The Bears at Candlestick this year - now that was football.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxtqcPPM_3E

    Still hurts to watch. This other video is hilarious though, if you missed it at the time of the game:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZzQyyv622M

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    can't watch.

    I do know one thing... Hayden needs to be on another team next year. Guy sucks.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    +1 Aqua Teen is one of the best shows in the last 10 years.... immature but great.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    speaking of adult swim... I've been seeing ads for the spy spoof cartoon (can't remember the name) Archer maybe? Looks awesome. Going to catch that and see if it's as funny as the ads make it seem.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The ball was oot, eh?

  • Im still sold on Mike McCoy. I have no interest in Trestman.

  • In reply to Fresno,Ca Bear Fan:

    I've come to the exact opposite conclusion. All things considered, I really like Trestman for the next HC. He's done it all - played QB, successfully coached QBs, successfully called plays as an OC (in the NFL) and while being a very successful head coach in the CFL is not the same as being one in the NFL, the skill set is very similar. The more I read about him, the more I like him....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    fresno, give us some reasons maing. Why?

  • I think the Packer-49er game hinges on how well Justin Smith can play tomorrow. If he can be effective with the torn triceps, that will free up Aldon Smith to make a few big plays on Rodgers and give the 49er's a chance. If Justin Smith doesn't play well, I predict the Packers will win. They have too much firepower on offense if the other team doesn't apply consistent pressure.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Aldon Smith has been a glaring non-factor since Justin Smith went out.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    because Justin Smith's job is to pull the O linemen into his body and drag them away while Aldon Smith stunts around the inside or outside and has a straight shot to the QB. It's illegal and they do it every play.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Good luck doing that with a torn tricep. Good luck with lifting your arm.

  • Let's see, our last "former Jimmy Johnson assistant"...?

    Dave "How did he get head coaching jobs with the Dolphins and Pitt after what he did with the Bears" Wannstedt.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Not to mention DC for the BIlls....

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