Cam Worrell: Defends Tweet, Promotes Dave Toub as Head Coach

Cam Worrell: Defends Tweet, Promotes Dave Toub as Head Coach

Good friend of the blog, Cam Worrell, Tweeted this Sunday:

Dear Jay Cutler, this is how you play in the playoffs through a knee injury. Signed, RG3.

Needless to say, Cam took a beating from Bears fans. Today I give him the chance to respond. And then we tack on a discussion of Dave Toub as potentially the next head coach of the Chicago Bears.

Give it a listen.

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  • I'm not sure what Worrell ads to the discussion, except being a "friend of the blog."

    There might be something regarding "just kidding" (but apparently not), or "the Redskins were up 14 to nothing at the time" but this basically hits me as macho "we all play when hurt" and doesn't address what is the way to win the game. In this case, the second half indicates that putting Kirk Cousins in would have been a better option than an injured RGIII, as opposed to Todd Collins not being a viable option.

    Anyway, in both instances, you did get a good recording of the telephone ringing.

  • In reply to jack:

    that was pretty funny

  • mmmmeh... weak cam. Common maings. Cutty is a tough motherfucker. Talk all you want about his game play and leadership, but questioning his toughness is pretty offbase. Especially when RG3 should NEVER have been put back into that game.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yes he is and yes, you are right Jay Cutler is ome of the toughest SOB in the NFL. You have to remember now , Jay Cutler is not one of the media darling QB's out there Tony) overated) Romo aka Mike Vick

  • Oh, and I posted the wrong Ms. Alabama this morning.

    The actual one is hotter, and less jesusy... which is probably good. She is a LOT sexier.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3mKD8ubvWM

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    She's pretty damn hot. I keep trying to imagine her without being shaded like she was from Bombay via spray tan - and she's still pretty damn good looking.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Rhode Island is just...wow

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uMpz0wCYoY

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm a little concerned you guys know so much about these beauty pageant contestants. YIKES!.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I'm more concerned about those who, for whatever reason, refuse to do the necessary research.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    yeah, wow. She is so beautiful.

    She always hums... uhhhh, really? Even during say.... felatio maybe?

    And she does seem smartish... not Einstein smart honey, but good enough (including the humming of course)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB I'm not pasting in this link because I KNOW she's blonde and blue-eyed. Find me a brunette called Bambi with brown doe-eyes please.

  • "She's going out with MB. How smart can she be?"

    That hurts doc... that hurts a lot.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I keed because I love.

    That's why I never make fun of Shady (zing).

  • So Cam Worrell uses the fact that All-Day had a one-in-a-hundred recovery from a full ACL tear to extrapolate the following lesson:

    Modern medicine means that players can play with ACL sprains and KEEP PLAYING, because if they fully tear it, it's ok because we live in an age where we can fix that.

    At least Jeff tried to disagree with him. That was very very silly. Warrior mentality and sound team management have little overlap.

    Every time that Cutler took off running this season, including several first downs in the Cardinal game and several good runs in the Lions game - just imagine if his runs were about 10 to 20% slower.

    Because had Cutler stayed in that NFC Championship game, he may have torn it, and that's what he'd be right now.

    Worrell then tries to compare skill players to offensive lineman, who are just warhorses and play with labral tears. Jeff then kind of kisses his ass because Cam did make a Pro roster. Ok. Fine. I wouldn't want him to be the Bears GM. I'm not sure Phil Emery really UNDERSTANDS what it means to play with pain. Maybe he should tear a few muscles just so he can APPRECIATE the pain players have.

    Whether it's Urlacher saying "unless you're a player you don't get it" or it's Worrell saying essentially the same thing, it's bullshit. We're not ethopians, so we don't know hunger. Has nothing to do with running the farm.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    "Every time that Cutler took off running this season, including several first downs in the Cardinal game and several good runs in the Lions game - just imagine if his runs were about 10 to 20% slower."

    This is exactly why the Bears correctly pulled Cutler from that game.

    Keep in mind too that Cutler wasn't exactly lighting it up in that game anyhow, though there is the argument that he gets better in the 4rth.

    I find this whole "warrior" mentality hypocritical. Do Wilson's teammates consider him a pussy when he slides? How about Peyton's teammates when he pretty much curls up in the fetal position every time he gets sacked to minimize the impact? How about Deon whiffing on tackles back in the day?

    You know what players respect more than toughness? WINS.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Just picking this post at random - nothing personal gp...everyone's said basically the same thing, with various levels of sneering.

    Yer all wrong about one thing - and that is that Urlacher, Worrell, et al, are right; only players are going to know what it's like to "play", injury or no. We don't know the dynamics beyond what we see on television or grab from audio soundbites.

    It's been decades since I lowered my head at a running back, but I did it back in the day. Doesn't make me an expert on today's player mentality.

    I'm all for coming to Cutler's defense - he's my QB, and that's that. But I'm gonna respect Worrell's take even if I don't agree with it. He suited up, and that gives him leave.

    Yer analogies about Ethiopians/hunger and the Emory/player pain were disappointing; yer usually smarter than that, and I don't mean that as sneering or condescending. Just don't know how else to put it.

  • Being a former player gives him the perfect right to an opinion. Doesn't mean he's right of course. As Richard Feynman said, "We can never be sure that we are right, only that we are wrong [for other newer laws may disprove what we previously believed to be true]"

  • Is anybody else out there still haveing a tough time eating solid foods after the season we had uh. Well I had pizza last nite so I am eating better. I shit you not man. Listen Emery I hope knows what he is doing I get sick to my freakin stomach every year man watching those ugly green uniforms every season while the cheese brain Packers again are in the post season even the even those nordic babooms from MN got in , it makes me sick dudes and dudettes well let me go i cant even takes this writing right now

    Frank Deleo
    Bronx NY

  • In reply to frankie5134:

    Maybe you should catch up on the stories about Al Roker.

  • Big difference between toughness and stupidity. Or was it selfishness that made RG-Knee keep going? Wanting to be labled a hero.

    And you do in fact have to wonder how much of the ignorant criticism of Cutler (coming from NFL players as well) played into RG-NoKnee's head. ("I don't want to get dissed like Cutler was.")

    Like Apollo Creed willingly accepting death rather than quit against the Russian. That was just a movie - but look what happened to Carl Waeathers career after that! (Happy Gilmore.)

  • Cam cites two examples. RGIII and Philip Rivers.

    Did either of them win the playoff game where they played on a bum wheel? No.

    That is why Cutler left. He couldn't plant and make all the throws and god knows he couldn't scramble away from the rush that our offensive lines couldn't contain.Can any one of you tell me RGIII should have stayed in the game? No. Why? Because he was hurting the team.

    Such bullshit. If I'd have heard this bullshit from Cam before the season started, I may not have listened to one of his interviews. D-bag.

  • wow, little harsh there tiger.

    btw, in all fairness Rivers couldn't win a playoff game if they spoted them 38 points to start the game. The guy is... doggie. poopy.

  • Enderwiggin!

    What happened mang? I got 24 to your zero this week in pickem. What happened? Passed your ass by.

  • I'm beginning to think Emery is going to pick the coaching equivalent of chicken dinner.

    Brian Billick is just sitting there.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    don't fucking say something like that man. Stop that.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Would there be any harm in interviewing Lovie? He might have learned something about offense this past week...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I mean, as long as you're gonna be thorough...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Like Singletary,* Emery can ask Lovie if he has investigated the motivational force of mooning.

    _____
    *Rosenbloom, and most radio commentators today, took reports about him getting an interview as meaning that if he gets the interview, it is a joke.

  • Hey Cam, you fucking POS, there were actually 2 tweets from RG that night.

    "Dear Jay Cutler, this is how you play in the playoffs through a knee injury. Signed, RG3."

    then later that evening:

    "Dear Redskins, sorry for fucking pissing away that playoff game and a nice little season by singlehandedly hampering the offense and being completely ineffective as I limped around. Sorry for losing the fumble too because my fucking leg didn't work because I shouldn't have been playing. Signed, RG3."

  • In reply to Waffle:

    wow, that SOOOO looks like more than 140 characters!

  • In reply to Waffle:

    +100000000

    What if RGIII is hampered for the rest of his career due to his player pride? I understand that in a game, you don't want to come out, but Shanahan should have known better. He's been in the league for a long, long time.

    Say he heals up fine, he still hurt his team as he could not make the runs he was supposed to. The Skins have designed plays for him running and to keep running them was risky for him and the Skins chances.

  • FUCK YOU CAM!!!! I thought I would bring the previous thread to this one.

    Any assgoblin's that think that Cutty is
    sheiteya as QB ..................FUCK YOU TOO!!!!! or as MB say's FUCK YOU IN THE FACE!!!

    Coach Killer really????Sharpe you asshat...If my ares for the last four years was constanly pummelled into the turf...... I'd be pissed off.. Shit I would be beating the shiete out of the Oline with a Hickory Stick and turning their arses into pinata's!!

    So tired of Cutty being campred to any other QB....Who was it that suggested that he's the Ty Cobb of our time...I'll take him that way any time.

  • Barrett Jones to the Bears? I could live with that one!
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1472647-2013-nfl-mock-draft-fresh-predictions-after-bcs-national-championship-game/page/21

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    +1 Mongo....

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    +2 Mongo. Not a draft I would "Mock'.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    I favored this kind of pick last year as well if we went with an offensive 1st round pick. Rather than reach on a left tackle prospect that probably fell out of the top 20 because he can't play left tackle, we can take the first or second best guard/center in the draft.

    Jones is especially solid because he can play center. I think Garza would do well to slide back over to guard on the right side. We put Lance Louis on the left side. We keep EW as our swing in the middle three spots. That's a pretty solid rotation right there. Doesn't fix the tackle problem, but its a safe pick that upgrades a weak position. And we really need help everywhere on the line.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I think Garza would be better off retiring. There's zero push there, I mean the guy wears braces on both knees - he should be in the special olympics not the NFL.

  • I think you'd be hard pressed to find too many O-linemen that don't wear braces on both knees.

  • and as for Toub for HC...NO! he needs to get Skunk back on trac..if not.......... time for skunk to move on...be someone else's #1 WR...and good luck with that.......

  • Three observations:
    1) Toub - yes.
    2) http://spiceadams.spreadshirt.com/mens-bang-bang-t-shirt-A11757039/customize/color/1
    and last but not least...

    3) Cam, kiss MY ass.
    First, if you want to retroactively call Cutler a pussy for the NFC Championship game, just do it. Using another player, who by the way will probably miss a chunk of next year for putting pride in front of common sense, to do your shit talking for you doesn't seem like the manliest thing to do.

    Thanks.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    MBP...tee hee hee

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    OMG... I am SO buying that shirt! Thanks Rabbit. Now get online so I can kill you.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    maybe can be the start of a new BB shirt?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I'm with you and the rest on the Cutler thing. WI is going to kick IL ass on Saturday. Score will be something like 54-51....just talking smack.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Hehehe...we will see. The Illini have an awful lot to prove after last years meltdown, and Groce has them playing inspired on D.
    You know I'll be watching that game.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I like Worrell's post-game analyses. He never seems to have an axe to grind. During the season, I never suspected he was down on Cutler, or committed to Lovie. Now that the Bears season is over, I'm not particularly bothered by such opinions. What bothers me are the opinions of people who come here to gloat after every loss, and rarely if ever add anything else to the discussion.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Those are just Packer trolls

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Some are Packer trolls. The majority are passive-aggressive asshole Bears fans.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I like Cam too, but that tweet was a cheap-shot. And RGIII staying in on what was an already damaged knee was irresponsible on the part of his coaches and Redskins medical staff.
    When you have ligament or tendon damage and you keep pushing it, your aren't being tough, you're being stupid. It will get worse and the tissue will go, sooner rather than later.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I agree it was a cheap shot. But it was a tweet, and Jeff brought it here, not Worrell.

    It certainly doesn't surprise me that some people think Cutler lacks the will to win. I believe otherwise but have no problem with those people, as long as they're not gleefully logging-on every Sunday to rub everyone's face in it when they feel Cutler proved them right, or constantly tossing-out empty little barbs on the topic in the comments. I'll save my wrath for those assholes.

  • http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1476040-chicago-bears-singletary-interview-proof-the-interview-process-needs-to-end

    I hope in the end this fuck eats "Crow" did you see what I did there?

    E-Train keep these assclowns guessing.....

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Why do these assholes keep suggesting the candidate list is too long or that Phil needs to hurry? For my part, I want a thorough search. Any coach worth hiring that was available is still available. Many of the best candidates are still working the playoffs.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    The Bears probably interview 15-20 college prospects for every draft pick. Why not do the same for a head coach?

    I seen your Detroit post, and called my friend today to talk about the city, since he lives close. He also said it's like a 3rd world country. Since '98, the population has dropped 30-40%. Huge wastelands throughout most of the city. The downtown is nice, but not many people live there. Walk a half mile away from downtown and your in a war zone after dark. He said he never drives in Detroit without a gun. The schools have a 32% graduation rate, and that's not counting the truant students who "drop" out before that. The city doesn't change any of it's policies or practices, but just keeps asking for more federal and state money. I heard lots more stories about how fucked up the gov't and culture is in that city. I think it's beyond repair.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    "The Bears probably interview 15-20 college prospects for every draft pick. Why not do the same for a head coach? "

    Because Steve Rosenbum wants a new coach NOW so he can start posting the critical "articles" he's already stashed away no matter whom the Bears select.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    It is beyond repair in my opinion. We should give the whole damn thing to Canada. (Sorry Canada)

  • http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/08/bill-cowher-plans-to-return-to-coaching-eventually/

    I think *this* is someone we should invite for an interview...

  • In reply to Scharfinator:

    So, we want Bill Cower because he won a Super Bowl in his FOURTEENTH season as head coach of The Steelers or because he finished OUT OF THE PLAYOFFS in seasons 7, 8 & 9 of that stretch?

    And do you seriously believe he would have survived to get to 14 years in Chicago if he had missed the playoffs for 3 straight seasons heading into season #10?

    I don't.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Does that mean Lovie would have won us a lombardi if we kept him 5 more years?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Nope. SIX, maybe.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    That is exactly why one GM compared Cowher to Lovie.

    He honestly believed their records were pretty similar if you took away the Superbowl win.

    He honestly believed that Lovie would have eventually won a Superbowl for Chicago. However, we will never know. Oh well.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    It's been what, 22, since the Bears had one? If you had made that deal in 86, we'd be ahead as a franchise....

    But I see your point, everyone would like quicker and a better success ratio to dull years.

    Now if you mean if Cowher would physically live another 14 years... that remains to be seen.

  • Wow,all the Cam hate. All because he opined Cutler could/should have played out the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP game against the fucking GREEN BAY PACKERS.

    But the real point is that the Bears were better off with Hanie than Cutler that day. As Washington would likely have been better off with RG3 out of the game.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I am soooo SICK of these "I'm not a doctor BUT I PLAY ONE on SPORTSCENTER, THE INTERNET or TWITTER because I don't like Jay Cutlers (UGH!) "Body Language" types!

    Anyone, Cam Worrell included, who claims Cutler "...should have played out the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP game ..." DESERVES the avalanche of criticism that rolls down on them for either NOT, paying attention or dealing inoh-so-convenient REVISIONIST history.

    It is on the record that Cutler TRIED to play on HIS damged knee and it would NOT support his weight which, guess what?! Is exactly why RGIII FIANLLY had to come out of the game against Seattle.

    Meanwhile, the renowned Dr. James Andrews is very busy dancing around the issue of whether RGIII should have even continued to play at all in the RAVENS game (Shanny: "I thougth he signaled 'OK' ." Andrews: "Um, er well, I..uh..never got a chance to examine him.") or, perhaps even, the rest of this SEASON ,even as he is about take a peak at how much MORE DAMAGE Mr. Griffin has done to a knee that it smells MORE AND MORE like he hadn't ought to have been playing on in the first place.

    Check out czabe.com for a strong "Local D.C" opinion from a media member and admitted Redskin fan.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Didn't the doctors bar him from playing? It's not up to the QB if he stays in the game or not.

  • I don't know, Irish.

    My main point was I really don't understand all the hate about a guy stating his opinion.

    Mine is that neither Cutler nor RG3 should have played when they did, because playing hurt was detrimental to their team.

  • Quite the crapstorm raining down at the 4-letter today. (Awwwww).

    Not enough football game last night to keep Brent Musberger from stepping in a big pile

    and

    "Buh-Bye" Rob Parker his "Cornball" opinions.

  • This made me laugh..

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/kyle-shanahan-admits-mother-helped-design-most-of,30734/

  • The video below it made me smile. The Swoll Ninja Workout.

  • Griffen could be out for a year .

    Not good. In just a single season in the NFL, RG3 has managed to establish himself as one of the game's most fragile quitters.

    The first indication came versus Atlanta in week five. With the score tied at 7 in the 3rd quarter, Griffen left the game with what was later described as a "mild concussion." The Skins lost by six. RG3 was symptom-free less than a week later.

    Griffen excused himself again in week 14 versus the Ravens. At the time, Washington trailed Baltimore by a TD & two-point conversion. The Skins drove to the Baltimore 26 with a minute remaining. Griffen chose that moment to leave the game with a "mild knee sprain."

    Of course, Griffen bowed-out of the wildcard game just seconds after Seattle took the lead, with 7 minutes left on the clock. He was hobbling around just fine when it looked like the Skins would win big.

    /sarcasm off.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    A 'mild' concussion? WTF is that? I had a mild heart attack yesterday, but I went straight back to work. WTF? You either had a concussion or you didn't - and any self-respecting person doesn't do shit after three weeks with a concussion.

  • IIRC, 'mild' was Shannahan's word. Shannahan likes that word.

  • So according Cam, this was worth it?

    Report: Robert Griffin III out 6-8 months with complete ACL, LCL tears

    Not only could the kid's career be over, he will probably never have the same ability that he was blessed with again. Sure, he could pull a Charles or Peterson and come back but it's highly unlikely.

    No player should risk their career for one game. Not one.

  • Shanny should be forced to attend each rehab session.
    Every single one.

  • Full tears require surgery in which tissue is taken from another part of the leg and used to graft replacements. It's difficult, not always seamless (pardon the pun), and only Doctors who have alot of them under their belt are any good at it.

    Speed affected? Think Urlacher.

    Shanny has a lot to live down, mainly because Cousins is WAY better than Hanie. Other teams have been calling the Skins about Cousins, he's a future starter for a team like the Cardinals. To take a pass on using him made no sense.

  • Thusly, no team should ever invest more than two first round picks for any one player, when it only takes one play to bring their value down next to zero, or zero itself. The initial feeling - for me anyway - when the Skins gave up what they gave up, was that it was insane.

    Unless Cutty wins the big one for us, so was the Cutler trade. The picks we gave up for him would have built us a line that would have made Eli Manning look good. See what I did there? Yeah.

    On NFL.COM I got rick-rolled into watching Dave Dameshek's shame list. We're on there at #4 for being thorough in a search for a HC for a multi-billion dollar business. I quote : "When you interview everyone, you interview NO-ONE." Mmmkay.

  • Unless Jerry Angelo is the guy using the picks that would otherwise be traded. Just think, with two first rounders given away, he gave up the next Gabe Carimi and Chris Williams or Cedric Benson for a starting quarterback. When the GM blows, trades like that are fine. His picks would have been wasted anyway.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    Jesus, I just started feeling bad for Lovie as I was listing those names. "Hey Lovie, go win with these fucking retards." I know, I know, I know MB. Don't say it. I already know and I'm with you. Very excited about a whole new staff.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    This is a fair point, Angelo would have wasted the picks. My bad.

  • Here's a question, Cam -
    How effective IS a "mobile" QB with one knee?

    I suppose if it was Manning, you could always strap a 2x4 to the leg and tip him over whenever the pass rush got close.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    He would hurt his neck that way. But Manning might get a feather bed exemption, a rolling feather bed under his feet for when he gets hit.

  • Maybe Emery will get military with it, and grab Mike Sullivan from the Giants, since he's an Airborne Ranger. Emery loves that stuff.

    I have a problem with going and getting a guy like Mike McCoy and then saddling him with Old Sauce. I really really hope that Emery will look at the Harbaugh brothers and the fact that they were given the keys to the clubhouse - they picked their own staffs. That's how you win, you bring in your own guys who are all with you.

    Lovie never got that. He was always working with other people he didn't agree with, that's what caused Rivera, etc. Let this new guy have the people he wants, don't go in and say 'well, Old Sauce and Taub are staying, so deal with it.' Let them decide.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    How can we dump Marinelli? I mean how? Didn't we lead the league in interceptions and takeaways? Firing a HC with a 10-6 record is one thing, firing a DC who not only had one of the most effective defenses in the NFL, but is regarded as one of its greatest teachers .. .that would be insane in the membrane.

    No way a HC should come in and say "You know what, we need to go a different way with the defense ..." - that dude is an asshole if he says that. You are #1 in INTS and takeaways (or whatever), you don't mess with that. If it's not broke, don't fix it.

    We lost games because our offense was shit, not because - as many might surmise - that "we let people march up and down the field on us". You can't win/lose games by marching up and down football pitches. You need to score more than the opponent. It's not broke, ergo we shouldn't fix IMHO. We;'re looking for a HC, if he has a problem with Maranelli then he can fuck off whoever he is, because he's likely an idiot. A new HC should arrive at Halas Hall and invite Rod into his office and tell him it's great to meet him.

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