10 Definitive Factors of the 2012 Season: #s 10-6

10 Definitive Factors of the 2012 Season: #s 10-6

The Chicago Bears have failed to reach the postseason in 2012 and it has cost Lovie Smith his head coaching job. Today and tomorrow I'll present my ten definitive factors/moments/developments of the 2012 campaign. They are the reasons the Bears succeeded and - perhaps more important - failed over the course of this roller coaster campaign.

#10 Six INT TDs in Five Weeks

To quote a Larry Mayer:Not only has the unit broke a franchise record by returning six interceptions for touchdowns, it set the mark in a five-game span—in wins over the Rams, Cowboys, Jaguars, Lions and Panthers.” The Bears were not just one of the best defenses in the league in 2012; they were the best scoring defense perhaps in the sport’s history. They lit up the scoreboard for five weeks and ushered the Bears to an exhilarating 7-1 start.

#9 Disappearance of Devin Hester

Many Bears fans have grown accustomed to expecting the same thing each and every Sunday: Devin Hester returning kicks for a touchdowns. We’ve become so accustomed to The Skunk streaking through the end zone that it made no sense to expect anything else. Hester not only failed to score but he looked tentative with punts in the air, made poor decisions throughout the year and failed to show the burst on kickoffs he’d patented in the past. (You can also add that Adam Podlesh’s miserable first half contributed to an off year for Dave Toub’s normally stellar special teams units.) The Bears had one of the game's great edges. They lost it in 2012.

#8 Health

Brian Urlacher was non-existent for most of the season. Robbie Gould couldn’t walk during the pivotal Minnesota game. Alshon Jeffery missed half the season and stunted the development of what looks to be a dynamic wide receiver. Matt Forte had bad ankles. Lance Louis, the Bears’ only reliable lineman, went down with an ugly looking knee injury. Jay Cutler, Earl Bennett, Devin Hester and Shea McClellin each missed time with concussions. Injuries weren't to blame for the Bears missing the playoffs but they were a defining factor over the second half of the year.

#7 Adrian Peterson Joined the RB Rushmore

The Bears would be preparing for a postseason tilt at San Francisco this week except for one factor: Adrian Peterson. Nobody believed the Vikings were capable of surviving a two-game stretch at Houston in Week 16 and home to Green Bay in Week 17 undefeated. Not only did they survive but they blew out the Texans on the road and Peterson single-handedly tore through the Packers defense to the tune of 200 yards. If Peterson does not return from ACL surgery and deliver the most rousing rushing season in NFL history, the Bears might have entered the final week of the season preparing to rest their starters for wild card weekend.

#6 Packer Weak

When Lovie Smith joined the Bears he made beating the Green Bay Packers his priority and early in his tenure was successful. For the past three seasons the Bears have looked out-manned and out-coached every Sunday the two rivals have met. In order to beat the modern Packers the opposing offense must score points because Rodgers and company don’t make many mistakes and don’t turn the ball over frequently – two things a Lovie defense capitalizes on. The next coach must be able to walk up to Lambeau and post 30 with long, well-executed offensive drives. As Emery said in his press conference, it comes down to having more playmakers than the other guys. When the Bears have met the Packers in recent years the Packers have won that battle.

Tomorrow: #5-1


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  • First time I've posted in quite a long time...

    And to be honest, I like it here better during the off-season.

  • Willie's top 5 definitive factors -

    #5 - Gabe Carimi in general.
     ¤  "We don't need to upgrade the offensive line... we still haven't seen what our first round pick can do!" Well he can get one drive killing penalty per game, at least.

    #4 - Kellen Davis gives the fanbase a reverse blumpkin.
     ¤  I've been irrationally praising this guy, largely due to the aforementioned "unknown" factor, but also because of that whole 8 catches for 5 TDs thing. Plus, you know, he was big. How was I to know he'd be a big bag of regret. When you make me miss Olson, whom I despise, that's saying a lot.

    #3 - Defensive meltdown vs. Seattle.
     ¤  Well, without which we'd be preparing for Packer week again. I will forever hate Russel Wilson's existence (especially the way he rocks his face - see: Kaepernick)... As well, this is why I have no problem letting the entire coaching staff go. I'd have to put this one on Rodrick Marinelli. FUCKING ADAPT.

    #2 - We have a #1 receiver!?!?!
     ¤  That was fun, right?

    #1 - Coaching.
     ¤  Mike Tice - it's fairly evident you suck balls. Lovie - you are who we thought you were. Good fucking riddance. My future self would especially like to provide a big middle finger to the both of yous for, without a doubt, becoming the most memorable thing about this season.

    I've been anti-LDL since Rivera got canned. The only improvements he's made in 6 years has been slowly weaning off his jumbotron addiction. When you're not shitting the bed with your OC hiring, you're being such a sure-to-be-sent-packing limp dick that no one worth a shit will come work for you.

    Which brings me to Tice. Ah, Tice. You sure LOOK like a coach. That's about it. You failed to give us the OLine turnaround your hiring represented. But that didn't stop you from transforming a far from stellar affair into a promotion to the single most important coaching position for a team that consistently runs the same defensive scheme play in and play out. Your job required strategy, for which you have none. It required adaptability, for which you have little. It required 3 step drops, for which I saw few. It required not taking the predictability and up-the-gut runs of Turner and combining them with the passes-over-20-yards-only foolish insistency of Martz, for which you exemplified.

    Fuck you both and hooray Emery.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    actually, it WAS fun having a #1 receiver. it wasn't fun having to wait until week 17 for the QB to remember we had anyone else.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Nice to have you back. Shady and I were asking about you online the other night.

    Come back to us willie.

    How's the little one and life in general my man?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Oh yeah, and 100% spot on.

    #5 - doggie poo

    Did you find cute little spiders as bullet points?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I hit the Alt button and a series of random 4 digit numbers until I found something suitable. Fuck a character map.

    ¢ was my backup plan.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Man, I'd love to... the PS3 has been collecting dust.

    Had the parents in town for 2 weeks... which was more stressful than anticipated. Even during the Bears game, where he spews the vitriol like a lunatic. Not to mention trying to feed a guy who only enjoys food if it's within Chicago city limits. MBHAP - Took him to Grisanti's, and it was a DISASTER. Do not feed a Chicago born italian one generation removed from running the unions any pasta in Nebraska. "First off it's not pronounced man-i-cott-ee. Second, it should take longer than 8 minutes to cook!", "YOU CALL THIS BREAD?!"

    Baby is doing really well. Found out she's probably as lactose intolerant as her daddy, so the wife cut out all dairy and it's a brand new happy baby. Sleeping well, too. Unfortunately, my wife goes back to work in two weeks and the daycare terrors are creeping up. Not sure how she (or I) will handle it...

    Read that you fuckers had a blast in Chicago... I'm there next time. The wife had previously stated that I could go and sleep on my uncle's couch, but when I brought it up again I got the stare. I'm just glad you got to bask in the brilliance that is the Portillo's italian beast.

    You guys still on the MW3 or have you moved on to bigger and better (and more expensive) games?

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:


    Yeah, I feel your pain, he's a little bit of a whiner. His brothers were easier, they said a combined 5 words in the 4 hours we spent with them.

    Nice! Always a huge win when you a massive issue can be solved with a single silver bullet. Awesomeness.

    Yeah, I am. Shady's trying to ware me down and get me to buy COD BO2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wIZp_E2CxQ

    It's slowly working... that said, for the near future I'll be on MW3. Bring it!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Sorry, I meant that to MBHAP - that I took my Dad to Grisanti's (a decent Omaha Italian joint) and he hated it...

    What was he whining about? Having to eat delicious Portillo's twice?!

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    I was kidding. He's a good dude. Like him a lot. Shady, not so much.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i keeeed i keeeeeeeeed

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    I whined about everything. The whole time.
    Especially about crapping my pants in the Sears Tower.

    Have you been to the Venice Inn on Pacific?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    No, but I've heard of it... Thought people were saying "The Venison", and I don't dig on Good?

    Too bad Sons of Italy was closed. The other options were Biaggis and Johnny's, which while good, I didn't think were that much better than Grisantis for the dough... Plus, Lo Sole Mio is far as shit and I only ate it once.

    Too drunk to remember.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Nice autocorrect.

    I do dig on "Good", but don't dig on deer.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Aw shit.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Word of advice - aged cheese is a good way for kids to get dairy into their diets without setting off the lactose intolerance. My kid had trouble with cow milk until she was 3, but never had problems with cheese, particularly sharp cheddar.

    Still on MW3, still laughing my ass off when 30 goes nuclear...Shady showed up the other night, but I think it was just to emphasize that he still kicks our ass at MW3.

    You gotta go next time. Was hella fun.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    God bless babies and dads. Cherish him while he's around Willie. I'll bet he was right about the bread, and he had the balls to educate staff about correct pronunciation. He was probably spot on with what he had to say about the Bears.

    How does he read the Cutler thing? League MVP waiting for a line, or a gunslinger born and bred?

  • The eternal pessimist, he thinks Cutler is garbage.

    Mom loves him, and refers to him only as "Money". In fact, my Mom requested a custom Bears T-shirt for Christmas with a #6 on back and "MONEY" where it should read Cutler.

    Too funny.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Willllie! Grreat post, man. I'll buy all of that. I like RW though, from the first time I saw him, looks to be the real deal. With Luck and RGIII etc. it was a good crop. Dude was picked 75th and he's 5'11.

    It burned that we always drafted our QBs in the sixth as some kind of afterthought.There's only so many Tom Bradys down there. When we draft a guy at QB it should be because we think hes a RW or RGIII or whoever - not "Oh well, it's only a sixth rounder let's try this guy, he'll only be third stringer anyway ..."

    We're only ever one hit away from our season coming down to the guy in the baseball hat holding a clipboard.

    Are we paying Campbell another 3.5 next year or are we drafting a stud? We don't have a third round pick do we ....

  • Simply put, if Forte were Adrian Peterson and Cutler Peyton Manning, and SF didn't have the Smith Brothers (Trade and Mark), Rosenbloom's prediction of a 16-0 season with an average score of 55-2 would have held up.

  • In reply to jack:

    And if my auntie had 2 testicles, a donger, a double masectomy, a hairy pot belly, a drinking problem (complete with alcoholic rage), a bald head, a mustache and the name "Steve" - she'd be my uncle.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Which essentially is my point with regard to these "what if" analyses. For instance "The Bears would be preparing for a postseason tilt at San Francisco this week except for one factor: Adrian Peterson." And we still would have the half time discussion of "even if the Bears get into the playoffs, can they go far?" "If the Bears don't beat SF, will Lovie be fired?" Unfortunately, the Bears didn't have as much "testicular fortitude" as your hypothetical aunt.

  • In reply to jack:

    I can't stand hypothetical questions. People lay it out there with some straightforward 'What-if?' as if it's that easy. A gazillion variables just get left out and you have to come up with some ultimately meaningless and arbitrary answer.

    I am available for children's parties by the way. Charitable donations also welcome.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Harry Potter belly?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Takes a lot of core strength to fly a broom. Dude's probably ripped.

  • Good read Jeff.

    B4E's top 10 Bears definitive factors in the 2012 Season:

    10. Lovie Smith
    9. Devin who?
    8. Lovie Smith
    7. Lovie Smith
    6. Lovie Smith
    5. Mike Tice
    4. Lovie Smith
    3. Lovie Smith
    2. Offensive Line
    1. Lovie Smith

    Good bye Lovie...the players may miss you now...until they start winning with a different coach next season or start making the playoffs consistently over the next 5 years. You'll find a nice job elsewhere I'm sure. I got my Christmas wish...You're GONE.

    The Bear's future is looking bright. Emery is the BOSS and I'm waiting to see what happens next with true excitement.


  • In reply to Bears-4-Ever:

    good list B4

  • In reply to Bears-4-Ever:

    1. J'Marcus Orlando Omiyale Webb - Get thee hence this endless night. Be gone.

    2. Gabe 'solid pick' Carimi - The man who was projected to play right tackle in the NFL couldn't play football. Mike 'The Pod' Tice needs to take some blame for this. Don't draft a guy because he plays with your son.

    3. Roberto 'J'you want ME to play center mang? Eres loco en cebasa mang...' Garza. The man false starts when he's the only person on the planet who decides when the fargin ball is snapped. I had never seen this before. The Center ... false starts. It should defy the laws of physics somehow.

    4. Chris Spencer. You hire one of the worst centers in the league, and then put him in at guard, after already having put one of your own guards in at center, and moved your tackles into guard positions also. I can't remember if Cutler kicked any field goals or not.

    5. The Pod - I get the line the line was bad Mike, so adjust. KC's line went from worst to first with ONLY adjustment and no new players (a couple of years ago). Take Forte out of the passing game? The lowest number of passes in the league to TEs? You were a fucking Tight end Mike!

    6. Kellen Davis. You got me all horny and then left me alone K. But no. I don't miss Gregorina.

    7. Devin 'clockwatcher' Hester. Interesting comments there after Lovie got canned Devin. You're next, son.

    8. Referees. The Bears clearly have no mafia connections.

    9. Chris Conte - for keeping Stelz-bomber off the the field.

    10. J'Marcus Webb. recurring.

  • btw, you guys see this shit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC44nP7ClxM&feature=youtu.be

    Bang! Bang!

    (btw, if you didn't see the measurment to see the first down set up check it out)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yes...that was AWESOME!

    Ya know that same hit would have drawn a flag in the NFL as a "helmet to helmet" or "Leading with the head" bullcrap...the top of his helmet hit the bottom of the facemask and popped off the helmet. It's sad that a hit like that would be a penalty in today's NFL.

  • In reply to Bears-4-Ever:

    yup, dude is a beast.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Holy crap. I'd draft the guy based on that play alone.

    And this is why I'm NOT an NFL GM.

  • You could be. Angelo was.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Good things happen when nobody bothers to block you. He'd look good in Navy Blue and Burnt Orange.

  • happy new year guys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUOnJtD1H4U

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It would be interesting to know how much that show cost. You couldn't make me go to Dubai but that was an impressive show.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Dubai. Proof that 'If you build it they will come ...' was just a line out of a baseball movie.

  • The most heartening news for 2013 is really that the Bears at the top levels of the organization demand excellence and being the Packers doormat has grown stale.

    It's easy to say, but often difficult to achieve. Billy Clay Ford has bumbled and stumbled his way as the Lions owner for so long, they've sucked for so long - they have given up hope.

  • I think everyone should read this SI article for 2013 and think about what just happened up in Halas Hall:


    We want to believe that our best effort is enough. Ford Sr. is not the only one who tells his kids that -- most of us do. But the older you get, and the more you experience professional life, the more you realize: Some people's best effort still is not enough. Some people are not meant to lead. Some simply don't have the talent to rise to the top of their field. It is a hard truth, and we don't always like hard truths.


  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm not sure what your point is--that Virginia is 3 years old than Ford Sr., or her pampered offspring are about in the same age bracket and care about the same as Ford Jr. does? Or that the Lions have a longer streak as losers than the Bears?

    Jerry Jones has had his nose in Cowboys' operations from the beginning, which have been better with regard to winning championships, and certainly much better in cashing in on stuff not subject to revenue sharing.

    Maybe the article explains why Jim Schwartz wasn't fired on Black Monday. At least Schwartz tried to learn the red flag rule. Maybe it also explains why Ford Sr.'s cars were junk, and pretty much run out of the market by Honda and Toyota.

  • In reply to jack:

    Jesus Jack, hate much?

    The point is, George and Teddy B and Emery went to Ginny and convinced her Lovie had to go, something I was pretty sure wasn't going to happen. Because, in the end, getting Ginny a ring before she fades into the West is most important.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm sure Ginny or her offspring really cared about that, any more than Ford Jr. cares about getting a Super Bowl ring for Ford Sr.

    I'm also sure Ginny didn't meet with Lovie each week and ask "what went wrong," like Ford did with the one common element, Marinelli.

    I also suppose that Buffalo is bringing in Lovie Smith so that Ralph Wilson, Jr. gets a ring before he dies. He had a much better chance under Marv Levy, who himself went soft in the brain by hiring Jauron.

    And you can ask Aquinas Wired, I'm not Jesus Jack.

    So, I guess you didn't have any point for me spending a couple of minutes to read the article.

  • In reply to jack:

    I like calling you Jesus Jack, though.

  • In reply to jack:

    Jerry Jones's nose in Cowboys operations is why they've been on a steep downhill slide for the last 10 years.

  • I'll take the two superbowl rings, we've been on a slide for 27 years.

    It's not going to change soon, either. We've got Lance Louis and Jon Scott and that's all she wrote.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    was he directly, actively, forcefully, truthfully referencing Lovie Lee Smith?

    Btw, I LOVE that his wikipedia page lists him as the "former head coach of the Chicago Bears professional football team of the NFL"


    Bang! Bang!

    (Ps. Shut the fuck up!. PPS, last time I mention his name here)

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • In reply to jack:

    yes it is.

  • In reply to jack:

    I think we can all agree it is A source Jack.

    I wouldn't bet the farm on anything in there, but it is a source.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah, you can use Wikipedia as a source. You just need to keep an eye on where the source came from. There are moderators who keep an eye on things on that website and if there are users who are blatantly putting incorrect information on there, their contributions can be edited or deleted.

  • In reply to burntorangenavyblue:

    No, there aren't any moderators, except that Jimbo can get his girlfriend's page edited more to his liking.

  • Ray Lewis retired.. Damn.

  • damn it. Huge props to a fucking man amongst men.

    (...except for the whole murder thing)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Best Linebacker since Butkus.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    HOF defender, to be sure but
    no, I refuse to accpet or "except" the "whole murder thing".

    Good riddence to him and all that posing / dancing /screaming CRAP.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:


    Brilliant use of homonyms.

  • Really? Awww crap.

    One of the best.

  • In reply to Bears-4-Ever:


  • Tried to read through all the posts since this weekend up to now – but haven’t been thorough – so if I end up repeating someone else’s point I apologize.

    The more I think about all this the more impressed I am of Emery. Happened to hear his whole press conference. As everyone said, he has sound reasoning for everything he does. Doesn’t make him right, but he really thinks it all through. Best example was his methodical explanation on why no major upgrade to the OL. I like a person that doesn’t have a simple answer to a complex matter. And realizes that important decisions in football are more complex than the average fan/reporter realizes.

    Fascinating aspect of pass protection failure (and drops) not necessarily meaning offense failure. Three of the six team worse than us made the playoffs. And SF was just one place better. To me, that MAY have been an indictment of both Tice AND Cutler. With all the StatsInc references, I’m sure Emery has a feel for what the main cause of the offense failure is, and it sounded like use of RB / TE in the passing game.

    But mainly, it was the boldness of the move that impressed me. The riskiness of firing a coach who was – by Emery’s own admission – successful in many of the aspects it takes to be a good head coach. He could have gone a safer route and extended Lovie while forcing him to accept an OC of Emery’s choosing. That’s what I expected and he could have sold that to the fans very easy (winning record, great defenses, good ST, but one major downside that we are going to work together to get fixed.) Had that failed, then Emery could then fire Lovie and give himself a second chance, like Angelo did with Jauron. But Emery gets only one chance here; if the new HC fails, Emery fails. He knows that and apparently wants it that way.

    I read on PFT that Lovie is under consideration for several openings. Many commented that it’s a Rooney Rule thing; others say that’s crazy and he was a great coach. Well, on the surface I can see why people not following the Bears closely would think that – especially if their team never even competes for a sixth seed. And I can see a franchise like that settling for the improvement he’d bring.

    But if a team is really thinking, they’ll pass on him after the inevitable question:
    “What will you do to make our offense successful?” Because even if he has a good answer to that, comes the zinger: “OK – then why didn’t you do that in Chicago?”

    At that point, they’d get his famous Jumbotron stare.

  • In reply to BillW:

    I think if they bring Lovie into a situation with a stable offense, and a young defense, he may very well overachieve in a new situation (by that I mean, he'll do better than Bears fans expect).

    It just wasn't going to happen here because of the endless lame-duck cycle...he wasn't doing enough to earn a long-term extension and without it, he wasn't going to get a great OC hired...and Emery broke the cycle with finality.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    It appears Reid is the leading candidate for the Cardinals job. That leaves Lovie to follow in Dicky J's foot steps and head for Buffalo.

    I think the Eagles want Chip Kelly, and I just don't see the Chargers taking on Lovie.

    My prediction is that Cleveland will release Shurmur and Lovie may get a shot at the Browns, and be re-united with Dicky J.


  • In reply to gpldan:

    And he may do very well with that D...but wind up in offensive football purgatory again.

    How sad would that be?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    not sad at all.. fuck him for doing this to us for 9 years.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Fair enough, but he did get us about 10 feet from the mountain top...once.

    Has there been any discussion about the status of any of the assistants, other than the Babich thing (and who the shit even remembered he was on staff - I bought they had to bring him up from the basement with his red Swingline in hand)?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    The only thing I've heard is they are all signed through next season. It will be interesting to see if any of them stay with the team.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    ... and gave us Rex Grossbag to make the final ascent. Cock-ology Lovie.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    You summed it up very well. The lame duck cycle had to end and I commend Emery for doing it by getting rid of Lovie rather than rewarding his 10-6 record.

    Now for Lovie - what team with a stable offense is looking for a coach? Ranking by yards for the teams that fired HC:
    Eagles at 15 are the best. Then you have Buf at 19, KC 24, Clev 25, Chgo 28, SD 31, KC 32.

  • In reply to BillW:

    who. fucking. cares.

    He's not our shitshow anymore Bill.


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Well said; last complaint on him; hard habit to break I guess.

  • In reply to BillW:

    KC 32nd ???? Did they complete a pass? I thought Charles was running amok?

  • Had KC in their twice. 32 was AZ

  • In reply to BillW:

    Lovie's not getting hired as H.C. this year unless every other possible candidate drops out.

    I know the NFL has a propensity for recylcing stupidity, but I gotta think - no one can be that stupid.

    Eh, maybe the Browns.

  • In reply to BillW:

    Good points Bill. When we moved away from having a FB and a TE written into the playbook, then we lost two ingredients into any good offense. I don't know what the stats are, but whenever we faced a three and 1 situation I gritted my teeth everytime, and almost expected a pass. I don't think Tice intentionally ignored passes to the TE it's just that Davis turned out to be a douchebag (who will likely succeed elsewhere having taken his head out of his ass). When Singletary called Vernon Davis out that time it seemed to work. Not Lovie's style though, and as Cutler said, there needs to be accountability.

  • Hester continues to Tweet today, to publically hash out his disenfranchisement with football now that his star has fallen. I guess he didn't like Emery dismissing his concerns.


  • In reply to gpldan:

    So, pretty much the last two years he has been half-assing it. No way someone gets a better grasp of their role, takes care of their body, and improves his receiving skills in the off season while contemplating if they really even want to play...
    His head is to big for his helmet.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    must've killed him to see bennett take that bubble screen to the house. maybe if he'd have done that once in the past 3 years we'd actually all believe the charade that he was a halfway serviceable receiver.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    Good point; summed up the DH failure in one play.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    That had more to do with the kitties totally fucking up and Marshall blocking 2 guys than anything Earl did. I'm a big fan of Earl but on that play Marshall blocked the CB. A safety came over and ran right into the CB's hiney. The other safety came over and took a terrible angle (Delmas was hurt so maybe that had a lot to do with the bad angle). The other CB was on the other side of the field and never caught up. I do think the kitties secondary misjudged Earl's speed on that play but they would be hard pressed to fuck that play up any more than they did.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    don't disagree. but bennett had the wherewithal to spot what was going on. how many bubble screens have we thrown to hester in the past few years and how many has he taken to the house? shit, how many has he taken for a first down?

  • In reply to evantonio:

    How many were thrown his way when we played Detroit? The Hester pkg seemed to be the bubble screen, a go route and a quick slant.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    don't have the numbers in front of me and i don't care to dig deep enough to find them. but i'm guessing they threw 0 bubble screens to him in the detroit game. and for good reason.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    The 'oh shit!' circuit went off in my head when I saw that one. It worked! I thought it was Forte at first, but I was thinking the same thing about all those passes that went to Hester and he got tackled straight away.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    He's really digging his own grave, and fast.

    A new HC will probably look to trade him for some value, a 3rd rounder would be a steal at this stage, given all he has said in the press about not giving a shit. That's worse, IMO, than Briggs talking shit to the Bears during his holdout saying he'd never wear the uniform again, blah blah blah. Once he got paid properly, he shut up.

    But saying your fire is gone and you don't care, you made $20M and fuck football? That makes you expendable. I think the reason he went side to side on punts vs. upfield, is he just didn't feel like risking the killshot hit. It would hurt. So, he just didn't do it.

    Teams figured out in a pretty big hurry that once you pinned Hester to a sideline, he was gun shy for the contact.

    I think that's it for #23 in Chicago. This is Dexter Manley sized stupidity.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    like I said to all the screams of treason early in the season.


  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    He had 3 return TD's in 2011. Not bad for half-assing it.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Would anyone give us a third for him? Not likely. If we can get anything, even a seventh rounder for some conversion project, take it. Kick returns aren't what they used to be anyway. Hester was dangerous when he was fast. Now he's slower and he's not too bright. Bye bye Devin.

  • Bennett certainly looked faster in one play than the Skunk (because he stinks? because he ran back zero?) did all year.

  • It makes me sad to think of Hester in 2012 and Hester in the seasons before 2012. It's like night and day...OK one could argue that Lovie and Co. screwed him over when they made him a WR BUT Hester was still returning kicks to the house...

    2012 was a HUGE disappointment to Hester Fans everywhere because of the "lack of heart" Hester seemed to generate and even lack of common sense. Where was that spark we all loved to see explode? It used to be if Hester got up to the middle of the coverage suddenly the "rockets fired" and he was gone. Man I miss those days and no I'm not giving up on him.

    He can still be the Hester of Old but it sounds to me he needs a shrink more than anything else.

  • In reply to Bears-4-Ever:

    I agree on the counseling thing. A couple years back I wrote this already here, but being Devin Hester in 2006 and 2007 had to be a crazy experience - not just the performance and fun of being the GOAT, but the fearful respect of other teams and adoration of football fans everywhere.

    Then, it was gone. How does one adapt to that?

    Some people do it better than others, managing their emotions and not wearing them on their shirtsleeves (twitter sleeves?) - Devin is not one of those. Neither was, for example, Brett Favre. No doubt the collective memory of this blog could come up with a plethora of others.

    So I'm with you B4E - maybe therapy would help. He can certainly afford the analyst rates.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    rub some dirt on your vagina and get back out there... or go away.

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • Love that, except for the nun. Brings back way too many bad memories of grade school.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Save yourselves a lot of cash. Here's Carl Jung talking on film for 77 minutes about ... us. Thank Halas for Youtube.


    Off-season !

  • Carl Jung. Nice.

    Thank you for reminding me of this doozy of a song from the Streets properly analyzing the differences between drunks and stoners... Doc, have a piece.


    "I like to get deep sometimes and think about Einstein and Carl Jung. Old kung fu movies I like to see. Pass the hydrator please."

    It's lovely.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Ah-ha, The Streets...whatever happened to that guy?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Pretty sure he peaked with that one. Made an album a year or two ago, which was downloaded illegally by someone who must broke into my house, that was absolutely terrible. I think he's like the Puff Daddy of the UK.

    I love me some British accents, though.

  • Speaking of dumb ass bitches who should shut their pie hole and stay off Twitter, we have Greg Jennings sister, with these Twit-bombs:


    Looks like there is some dissent in that locker room going into the playoffs. What a shame.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Gotta love social media.
    I'm sure he is catching major shit for that in the locker room, even in jest, but I doubt the FO up there finds it as amusing.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    fucking. moron.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    "You can pick your friends, but you cannot pick your relatives."

    Or your nose.

  • I hate to point this out but Jeff do you recall leaving AP off your Top NFC north running backs list prior to the beginning of the year.

    I quickly pointed out this error. Perhaps you meant to put him in your top overall backs list.


  • In reply to Dmband:

    Maybe he was left off because of the injury, and no one expected him to be back to his pre-injury form--let alone superhuman form--this season.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Hands up, I was SMH at all those guys drafting him in fantasy. Same as the guys that were drafting Turtlehead.

  • I expect Bennett and Peppers to restructure their contracts or they might get cut. They are making way too much. Peppers is bound to make 16 million next year. I haven't looked up Bennett's yet but trust me, he hasn't earned his part.

    Hester is going to retire, maybe traded, but most likely cut.

    I pieced together this quick article and I hope you enjoy it.


  • he's the OC, but doesn't McCarthy call the plays? wonder how much he has to do with the offense's success if that's the case.

  • Bennett's contract was very incentive-laden. While he could well be asked to restructure, my belief is that Emery knows that Earl (like Matt) was not used to anywhere close to his potential.

    Phil must have mentioned at least a half a dozen times in the presser that he wants a coaching staff that knows how to structure the playbook to the talent available.

    I doubt I'm alone in thinking that letting Earl Bennett go would be a mistake.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    even bigger than letting clutts go. morons.

    I also forgot to mention that emery said he wants a new HC with 'lot's of energy' (paraphrased)

    ...I wonder who that was a swipe at.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jimmy Johnson is spokesperson for Extendz.

    Does that qualify as "Energy"?

  • It definitely qualifies as "Baby Boomer Snake-oil".
    I'm assuming, anyway.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Hence the intertest in McCoy and now Tom Clements. Taking what you have and making it work (even Tebow).

    Speaking of which (not Tebow) but another unknown here is backup QB again.

    I suspect Cutler will be expected to play out his contract in a "put up or shut up" year. Somehow I expect him to listen to whoever the coach is; the alternative is being set free again and that would permanently lable him negatively.

    As always, the Bears real season is the off season. God, I hope that stops sometime in the next 5 years.

  • In reply to BillW:

    jesus bill (similar to Jesus jack), how about a shred of hope and positivity in the face of a big, great decision by emery.

    My god man, does your doc know you need to up your paxil dosage? Common Man!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    As always, I remain cautiously realistic.

    I will say with certainty that Emery gets it - he knows what the problems were and the strengths of his ex-coach were nice but not necessary or sufficient to do the job. All that was clear as you sift through the immense detail of the press conference / lecture.

    I'm actually looking into a subscription to PFF to get some detailed stats to saitisfy my math-head side. There is no doubt Emery has looked very carefully at correlations and asked the right cause/effect questions. In a nut shell he concluded that playmakers trump O-linemen and he had the figures to back that up.

    So I have real faith. As noted elsewhere, I also enjoyed his swipe at his ex-coach (note I'm not going to use his name again) by saying he wants someone with energy.

    So I have more than just a shred of hope and positivity.

  • In reply to BillW:

    good to hear bill.

    let's bask in the glory of hope for at least one offseason in the last 9.

    Even if it is false hope, at least it's all ours for the next handfull of months. enjoy it!

  • In reply to BillW:

    As always, I remain Cautiously Pessimistic.

    Choosing a new head coach is definitely akin to playing with live ordinance.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Well put!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  • Peppers will be back at full money my kryptonite aversed friend. Sack totals are the name of the game, and he had more this year than since he joined the Bear. As for Clements, I tend to agree with evantonio. How much has he really had to do with the Packers success? Pretty sure a monkey with an extra chromosome (Pep Hamilton) could have done ok with Favre and Rodgers...

  • hear hear! isn't that how we ended up with Terry Shea? he was the QB Coach in KC when they were enjoying the success of the Dick Vermiel/Trent Green/Priest Holmes years.

    "my god!" the Chicago lords shouted. "look at the KC offense fly! if we bring in a man who knows a little something about it, surely our offense can do the same thing."

    yeah. well. we all know how that turned out.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    Our ex-coach hired Shea. That was the problem but we didn't know it at the time.

  • In reply to BillW:

    haha. very true. i'm just saying, how do we know what clements can do if he hasn't run the O show? shea was part of a pretty dynamic offense, too, before he came here.

  • I don't agree on that Coach. Having watched the Bears for 45+ years, I am hard-pressed to remember an *offensive* player who was developed by the Bears.

    Rodgers rode the pine and learned the system for what, four years? Do you truly think that had be been thrown to the lions (and bears and vikings) as a rookie, he would have come out unscarred? Had he suffered 120 sacks to get where he was by watching film and Favre would he be better off?

    I don't know the answer, Coach. And respectfully, I'm skeptical that you do either.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Rodgers gets sacked as much or more as anybody and way MORE than either of the Mannings (19 for Eli, 21 for Peyton) or Brady (27)

    Yet, it seems to have no ill effects on his overall production.

    The Vikings got after him for 5 more sacks on Sunday, to bring his season total to 51, and he STILL tossed 4 TD passes with no INTs to bring those totals to 39 TDs and 8 INTs for the season against a defense which the Bears could only muster 13 points in their biggest game of the season.

    Cutler was sacked 38 times this year with 19 TDs and 14 INTs.

    Allowing for the game and 1/2 Cutler missed it works out to this;

    Rodgers: Sacked@3.2 times a game.
    2.44 TD passes per game.
    0.5 INTs per game.

    Cutler: Sacked @2.6 times per game.
    1.19 TD passes per game.
    .78 INTs per game.

    Rodgers is special, but some of that production discrepancy has to be credited to the fact that the Packers have a REAL offensive scheme and the Bears seem to just have aone that's,(pun INTENDED) "offensive".

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Hell, forget offensive scheme - they actually throw the slant in short yardage situations.

  • Wooten's coming on, McClellin .... do we need to pay Pep 16 big ones when he's a year older and playing on one foot? That's a lot of dough.

  • WOW- Jeff and Da Bears Blog getting love from Waddle and Silvy!? Silvy was citing Jeff and the fan reaction to a potential Packer affiliate coming to the beloved and mentioned Da Bears blog and gave props to the host "I dont know who he is. I think he's from New York" haha Thats awesome though

  • Jeff, you are a celebrity!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Come for Jeff's opinions, stay for the rabble's near constant use of the f and c-words!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Fuck that shit you cunt.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    motherfucking cocksucker

  • In reply to gpldan:


  • In reply to gpldan:

    The proper phrase is cocksucking motherfucker. I know this because my Dad was a truck driver in Chicago area for 35 years.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Come for the blog, stay for the fuckin' lousy code.

  • A gaggle of cocklicking schlongsucking hateful motherfuckers!

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I think cocksucking motherfucker is probably the worst thing you can call someone. And when they're not there you just say it really slowly and deliberately. The cock .... sucking .... moth-ther .... fucker. That's bad.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That's a fucking big load of bullshit, Dan.

  • I only have 5 factors for the downfall of the 2012 Bears...

    #5. Lovie playing 'Lach in a meaningless game the year prior. Came in like Frankenstein, then pulled his hamstring running around like Frankenstein. Maybe 'Lach makes that one big play which would have turned a few close losses around if he were at full strength...

    #4. GROSSLY misdiagnosing the Oline. I get what Emery said "There's no vineyard for tackles" (Oh, wait, that was Glitchy...), but I wish someone would've asked him how he rated Reiff. Then, for some reason, our best LG was released in Williams. Carimi sucked - guys got fired for that. Chilo went MIA. Garza had more false start than any center in the history of football, including Pop Warner. Webb was Webb.

    #3. GROSSLY misdiagnosing the TE position. This I totally lay on Emery. Yes, Davis sucks, but Emery had a bunch of chances to draft a TE, ANY TE (Ladarious Green for example) as a contingency plan. Instead, we get a cb/s on the IR, and a FB in Rodriguez (even though we had Clutts! notice our run game sucking this year?)

    #2. Failure to get another WR. Emery got an A++ for Marshall, but we really had no other options beyond that. We all knew that Hester would NOT outperform Marshall (remember that from the PS hype?) - that other dude retired. Bennett was always a slot, and Alshon was merely a rook. If the Bears didn't continue the Hester experiment, maybe we could have spread our investments and drafted another WR like Chris Givens or T.Y. Hilton who were available for us in the 3rd and 4rth.

    #1. Coaching. Wow. I can write a whole manifesto here, but I'll try to keep it short. Bad coaching judgment had a hand in 2-5. Towards the end of the season, the Bears seemed to be sleep walking - NO URGENCY, until those last two games (vs shitty teams - what a coincidence). Typical Lovie on Nyquil. Tice, well, we all know how this turned out. Ranked 28th only ahead of such powerhouse offenses such as the Gabbert Jags, the Sanchizes, the lame duck Chargers, and the Hoyer-Lindley-Skelton Cards. For all those who think the Bears will "regress," think about that for a while...

  • 5 - agree, but making the playoffs and losing would have led to the same result; better this way as it turns out, though I wanted them in
    4 - disagree, based on Emery's apparent onclusion that playmakers trump O=linemen. Now maybe he's wrong, but the facts he stated on't indicate that.
    3 - partially agree; he expressed clear disappoinment in Davis and I suspect (as our ex-coach discovered) Davis won't like a disappointed Emery
    2 - disagree; he got two and he clearly felt Bennet and Forte were not used properly. Hence the change in coaching.
    1 - agree, and obviously.so did the man in charge.

  • In reply to BillW:

    Let me add some fule to #4.

    I advocated for franklin (starting RT for broncos I think), Moffitt (starting for someone we played... seahawks maybe?) instead of who we took (can't even remember).

    Anyway, we better address the fucking oline this offseason, I don't give a rat's little puckered ass what stats fucking kinc says.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Addressing the o-line will NOT be easy. There are about 25 other teams in the same hunt.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Yup. The time to address the O-line was Jerry poxbottle's job for the last ten years and he didn't do jack shit. He didn't even draft Olin.

  • I'm with you on all by #4. For the same reasons as I put out there on an earlier post, which happens to be pretty much exactly what Bill wrote above.

    Earl and Matt present problems. Matt because LBs cannot cover him, and Earl because you give him an inch and he makes the catch.

  • Here's some info to chew on. From ESPN-NFC North blogger;

    Jay Cutler
    QBR: 51.9
    Passer rating: 81.3
    Comment: Cutler pushed the ball downfield as much as any NFL quarterback after reuniting with receiver Brandon Marshall, but with modest success. His average pass traveled 10.0 yards in the air, the second-highest in the NFL. But his average yards gained per attempt, 7.0, ranked No. 16. He was vexed when defenses sent blitzes, partially because of the Bears' patchwork offensive line, but in the end Cutler had the league's fourth-worst QBR against it. The only NFL quarterbacks worse against the blitz were Brandon Weeden, Mark Sanchez and Brady Quinn. Cutler played well late in games, registering the third-best QBR in the fourth quarter and overtime, and it's worth noting the Bears won 10 of his 15 starts. Over the past three seasons, the Bears are 27-13 in games he starts and 2-6 in all others. In 2012, QBR deemed Cutler the league's most effective scrambler. He rushed for a first down on 36.6 of his scrambles.

    This info confirms what many of us have suspected, Jay loves to throw down field but isn't all that good at it. Watching that last game, we were 3rd and 3 or 4. Instead of a short pass Cutler tries to hit Marshall on a deep out 20 yds down field. He was double covered with a window about the size of a phone book. Of course it was incomplete and we punted. How many times did we see that this year? There were no better options? Fuck me, I'm really hoping we get someone in here to get through to Cutler. Play the percentages, it's the way to win. Betting on long shots all day, every day is a losers game.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Great info. Showing that Cutler needs coaching big-time on how to handle a blitz. And/or the Bears need a better scheme / recognition /route adjustments for blitzes. I'm sure Hester screwed up 100% of the time in that area. Davis too, in that he was not reliable. Cutler fell into a bad repsonse of flinging it to Marshall. The next HC/OC has to fix that. Actually, Cutler better listen to them and fix it else his dream of a big payday is out the wondow and he'll be settling for backup money like Rex and Orton had to.

  • In reply to BillW:

    Totally agree. Everyone dumps on Devin but there are 2 sides to that story. I'm not going to go insane and say Devin is a good WR but part of his problems were his relationship with Cutler. Cutler said enough things in the media to make it obvious he didn't like throwing to Devin. When he threw the game killing INT against the Fudgies late in the 2nd quarter, he went nuts and acted like it was Devin's fault. Devin swore he ran the correct route and the media didn't follow up on it. Even if Devin ran the wrong route (I don't believe he did) there was no excuse for that horrible pass. If Cutler throws it away (like that will ever happen) or pumps and reloads for a TD (Devin was 10 yds behind the secondary) it's a different game. Granted, knowing Devin he would have dropped it but he didn't deserve being thrown under the bus by Cutler. It seems like Cutler is playing some mind games with Devin and he's not exactly equipped for that type of thing.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Maybe we could trade Cutler for Romo and Orton, as a straight up deal.

    I know the Cowboys would go for it.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I see what you did there GP. I love that no one bit. Neckbeard can be a Bear anytime he wants, but Romo is morphing into Sanchize.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Jay said Hester ran the right route. And even if he didn't, Peyton or Rodgers or Brady would have seen what was happening and thrown the ball in the right place.

    Not sure how much of that is coaching, but Pep Whoeverthefuck (Hamilton?) and Dopey Drake absolutely HAD to go.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Probably too late to comment on this, but if Devin ran the RIGHT route, then Jay REALLY messed up. And so why was he so upset?

    But the point is, he had PLENTY of time (relatively speaking) to see where Devin was and NOT make the throw he did. So that's on him no matter what Devin did or didn't do.

  • In reply to BillW:

    Brandon is loving that shit though. 118 receptions for 1,508 and 11 TDs. Bracketed every game, I think that makes him a better receiver than Megatron.

    Wow. Beastmode was shitting his keks six times a day when Beverly Hills Cop was showing.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Cutler throws it to whom he trusts. That's the bottom line. Last year, it was Bennett. This year, it's Marshall. Towards the end, it sure looked like he trusted Alshon. It became evident that he lost all trust with Hester and Davis, and Bennett was in and out of the lineup, which may have disrupted chemistry.

    Cutler needs to learn how to dump it off or throw it away, but he's no spring chicken anymore. He's 29 - at some point, he is what he is - I hope some QB guru can get through to him, but doesn't it already seem like Luck, RG3, and Wilson are already more advanced than Cutler? I mean, Wilson has ONE WR (Rice) who is not nearly as good as Marshall, but his decision making seems light years ahead of Cutler, and he's a damn ROOK.

    I just hope Cutler isn't our Romo.

  • "I just hope Cutler isn't our Romo."

    No kidding. It's never too late to change, esp when it's your career in the balance. I'm OK with Cutler at QB but he needs to change some terrible habits and accept some coaching. Trying to make a game changing play every time he throws the ball leads to a lot of negative game changing plays. Percentages are boring as hell but that's how you win on a consistent basis.

  • Thanks forever85 for stating the obvious facts.. those same obvious facts that would have Johnny et al jumping down my throat.
    I was just thinking this morning that its pretty sad 3 rookie QB's could almost singlehandedly drag their teams into the playoffs, willing their teams to victory while ours just pouts on the sideline and casts blame.

  • While I agree with some of what you think/say about cutty sac, it's def not fair to say that lcuk, RGIII, and especially wilson are 'almost singlehandedly dragging their teams into the playoffs'

    At the very least washington, and especially seattle's Ds are fucking fierce... their specials have been pretty solid too... at least in the 4-5 games I watched of both teams.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Really? Who else did Seatlle add this year that could account for their improved record? Even more glaring who did the Redskins sign that got them to go from 5-11 to 10-6?
    Listen I think Jay is a SERVICEABLE QB .. is he "elite"? No. Can he win us some games? yes. But isnt that the same exact argument that cost Lovie his job? Lovie was serviceable but he was never going to be that guy to push his team to the next level. So what do we do with Jay? Stick with serviceable for the next 3 seasons and then scramble to get someone else or do we start looking for his replacement now while we still have a serviceable QB on the roster?

  • I was specifically speaking about their very good defenses.

    I think we have MUCH bigger holes to fix in the next 3 years, then when we've fixed the oline and filled in some of the old guys who'll retire with young players on D, then we pull an indy, washington, and/or seattle and go get our rookie QB star and let him take a badass full 3 phase team to the house. It's been proven that these new rook QBs can come in year one and lead teams to the playoffs (and maybe beyond)... we need to build the rest of the team to be ready for that.

  • Seattle has a bad-ass running game.
    Washington has a bad-ass running game (their ROOKIE running back just obliterated Portis' franchise single-season rushing record).
    Ignore the impact of that at your peril.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    So, yeah, I would say that adding Alfred Morris was a significant factor in the Redskins being as good as they are, AND RGIII is a phenomenal talent at QB. I don't see how the fuck that is relevant to the discussion about our QB, but OK.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Morris is a stud reminds me of Emmitt Smith

  • Jay has 1 year, effective a couple of days ago, to prove he is our franchise QB.
    I have no doubts about that.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Totally agree. I'm not sold on Emery yet but I do like the fact he's holding everyone accountable. Whoever is the new coach will probably decide Cutler's fate with the Beloved.

  • You put Luck, RG and Wilson on our Bears squad over the last 3 yrs and you'd have a fucking blood bath. A fucking blood bath and you'd be calling these kids busts. Give me a break and start thinking about football like it's not a video game.

  • Sac, I jump down your throat because of retarded fucking comments you spew out like this :

    "I was just thinking this morning that its pretty sad 3 rookie QB's could almost singlehandedly drag their teams into the playoffs, willing their teams to victory while ours just pouts on the sideline and casts blame."

    You can't be this dumb. It's just not possible. You have to be winking. This has to be tongue and cheek.

    you'll dismiss the fucking 8 dropped TD passes, which would have us in the playoffs and were some of the prettiest we've seen from a Bears QB.

    you'll dismiss the fact that we had a lump of terd as our OC who had no fucking clue how to call a game, why to call a game a certain way, couldn't help formulate a plan to get better linemen, etc

    you'll dismiss the fact that our QB got us to the NFC Championship game in his 2nd year on team and the first year of Martz's misapplied system to our talentless offense.

    you'll dismiss the ridiculousness of the scheme, lack of O line talent, the toughness of our QB, the fact that he still won us games when the gameplan was utter bullshit, etc

    you'll dismiss the fact that Angelo refused to do a competent job drafting and obtaining offensive talent to surround a franchise QB with

    You'll do all of this and with a straight face will tell us that a motherfucking rookie....3 motherfucking rookie QB's somehow drag their teams to the playoffs while ours pouts and casts blame???? what in the fuck are you talking about? Do you see what these other teams are doing you fucking retard? do you see their running games? Do you see how the team's use their fucking weapons and scheme around their deficiencies? Or are you going to stick with your whole stupid obsession with the QB being this huge problem on our team of unaddressed problems?

    Stop it with your fucking "pouting" and "whining" and "quitting" theories with Cutler. They just make you look foolish. Holy fucking shit you are dumb and you make me want to break my laptop when I read your insane bullshit..

  • In reply to Waffle:

    I heard the 2nd dumbest thing regarding the Bears I've ever heard on the radio today and I'm quietly betting myself a thousand dollars that within the next 2 weeks you will type some version of it into one of your stupid goddamn posts.

    I'm obviously not going to tell you what it was about but when you eventually spout it....and god knows you will because it was truly asinine, I will make sure to point it out to everyone that it was just a matter of time until that lunacy came out of your SuperBowl Nation , Yahoo Message board mouth.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Oh Johnny how did I know you would come running to your boyfriends defense as soon as the obvious was stated?

    So lets see.. we added one of the best WR's, if not the best, in the NFL. We obviously have a very good RB and a world class D and your contention is that if any of those three QB's were added to the Bears then they would be a bust?! Yet you site the supporting players on those other teams as a reason for their winning. Surely our supporting players are just as good if not better with the exception of the oline. So then scheme.. it's all due to the scheme, and two O tackles oh yes and some dropped passes. It's everyone’s fault but Jays. Johnny if you can honestly say that Jay is a top 10 QB then your love runs far too deep for logic to ever pierce. And if he's not a top 10 QB.. and we just got rid of a top 10 coach (arguably looking at the stats) because he didn’t get us to the playoffs then my question is how long do they stick with Jay? I think that’s a fair question and I've laid out the logic behind it for you. Now to the rookie statement..

    I do see one thing in common with these three rookies.. they get their teammates to play for them. They don’t shove their linemen and scream at them, they don’t constantly act like someone ran the wrong route every time they throw an int... they actually elevate the level of play amongst their teammates. (if you think the Colts are somehow better than the Bears personnel wise in any phase of the game please explain) In other words they are leaders... leaders who are still playing football and that is something I envy.

  • Technically, make that FOUR rookie QBs becuase if Kirk Cousins doesn't step up, BIG TIME, the Redskinsare 8-8.

  • On Luck, RG, and Wilson being more advanced than Cutler, I would say beyond a doubt, maybe, and probably.

  • The RB should be there on most pass plays to catch a dump off. Was this possible under Tice?

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    The numbers are what they are
    and I'm not going to say Cutler's great at throwing the deep ball. But it seems unfair to say he's not good at it. His receivers dropped a SHITLOAD
    of very well thrown deep balls this year. Hester, Bennet, Davis, Alshon, even Marshall. I
    can think of ten without even trying. I'm not very familiar with QBR. Does it factor in drops or do those throws just get mixed in like any other?

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    These are the dropped TD passes I remember that were longer than 20 yards (I think they were longer than 20 yards):

    Marshall vs. Packers (http://gifrific.com/bears-wr-brandon-marshall-drops-touchdown-pass/)
    Marshall vs. Texans
    Marshall vs. Minnesota (home)
    Marshall vs. Detroit (away)
    Alshon vs. Vikes (away)
    Hester vs. Vikes (away)
    Bennett vs. Seattle
    Davis vs. Detroit (away)

    I feel like I'm missing 1 or 2 with Davis. Anyone have a memory I'm missing?

    Catch those balls and Cutler has 27 TD passes, a passer rating closer to 90 than 80, a playoff birth, and another year of Lovie.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    thank god for dropped passes?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Your consistency and persistence is inspiring me MB.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    haha. i knew somebody was going to say something along those lines after i typed in the bit about lovie still being here.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    And broken thumbs.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    And those are just the touchdowns. Davis missed several catches in the 15 yard range that would have kept drives alive allowing for more passing opportunities. I kept waiting for Jay to just stick one in his face mask from about 12 feet.
    Point being, I think Cutler is more than serviceable. I think he's very good and has the opportunity to be great. That only happens if Emery makes the right hire and Cutler actually wants to be great. He can make a lot
    of money for 5 or 6 more years without really changing a thing.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    you don't have to sell me on cutler. i'm a fan. i live in nyc and constantly get into cutler/eli arguments with my giants fan friends. obviously, i lose those arguments because it always comes down to eli stepping up when it counted most on their playoff runs.

    i just need jay to man up for one year, or even one playoff run, and i can start flicking people in the nuts. it's gonna be great.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    No doubt they had a lot of key drops but Cutler's accuracy comes and goes. He's so streaky it's crazy. I'm not down on him, I just refuse to make any more excuses for him. He's had a lot of obstacles since he's been here but a lot of them are self-created or dealt with very poorly. I really don't care about any of the percieved attitiude issues. I think that's more of a media myth than anything. I just care about production and winning and so far he's come up short.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    That is spot on from top to bottom. Let's hope the new staff maximizes his potential. If they get him there, the Cutler, Marshall, Jeffrey trio is going to be special.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Absolutely agree, Canada. To date, Cutler has not shown the consistency necessary to be an elite QB.

    Some of the worst throws I've ever seen a QB make have come from Jay Cutler. Right along with those that are simply astonishingly good.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    I don't think drops factor into the QBR system. Aikman's ? If it doesn't it would be a good tweet as to why his system is in complete.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    "The only NFL quarterbacks worse against the blitz were Brandon Weeden, Mark Sanchez and Brady Quinn. "

    Jesus Christ on a bike. Mark Sanchez.

    Then again, all this we know. Jay is a hot-headed, forceful, petulant, inaccurate, strong-armed passer who's quite mobile and good at throwing on the hoof. Now let's put a wall in front of him and win a Lombardi.

    If we can get a good center and a LT, then Lance, Scott, and Ed Williams - until we can replace him - could shore things up.

  • and now for something completely different...

    beverly hills cop is on.

    Fucking awesome.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Growing up my gym teacher would set up an obstacle course, a gauntlet of sorts, for the students to run each year. One year he decided to add this soundtrack:


    When he put this track on in the gym that year I was ready to run through a fucking wall. In fact kids got so hyped when the track came on they would try to LITERALLY run through a wall. He determined it was too much for us to handle and reverted back to this subdued classic:


    Ah, grade school gym class memories.

  • In reply to Shady:


  • In reply to Shady:

    This is the one that gets me going before I go out for a bike ride. It has to be at an ear piercing level.


    Miserlou works in a pinch. Can't go wrong with the King of the Surf Guitar and SRV!

    Here's another one from that gets the blood boiling.


  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Saw Trower at the Chicago House of Blues about ten years ago. I actually remember him from his Procul Harum days.

    Never knew Dick Dale was a southpaw (like me)...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    here's one I use as a caffeine substitute:


  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Never saw Trower. Would like to see him. Have no idea who's singing with him now. Saw Dick Dale about 15 years ago. Great show. He's got a huge ego but man he brings it and is funny as hell. At the end of the night he signed anything and everything. Sat on the edge of the stage after the show and talked to everyone (esp the ladies!!!!!!!!!!).

    I thought I remembered you were a metal guy. I don't listen to metal but I do like the energy when it's live. The thing that I find really interesting about metal is how most of the players are super nice guys. It's always portrayed as so dark and dangerous and most of the big name metal bands have reputations for being great with the fans. Gotta love that!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Actually, I'm a bigger fan of 70s/80s rock but these days I spend most of my time listening to classical music...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Get this if you don't have it:


    You won't be sorry.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    And it's probably free on torrentz.eu.

    Schubert's dead if there are any moral quandaries.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Say no more Tobi. For you, in this festive season ....

    Gabriel Fauré - Requiem : 'In Paradisum'

    and .....

    a not so bad documentary on the heady old days of drainpipe jeans and very angry music. 'Get Thrashed'.


  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Metal is maybe the only genre of music where it's almost obligatory to be nice to your fans and do the meet and greet and sign stuff. Maiden are legendary at it.

    Tobi listens to all kinds of music, that's how it should be. Every genre has its classics, and we lost Patti Page there, I thought she was great.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Stevie Ray, double trouble, what the fuck was at there?

    Guitar? Blues? I'm Alvin Lee and this is how it works.


  • In reply to Shady:

    It's like the aural version of 5 Hour Energy Drink.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    BHC. Soundtrack to the Eighties.

    Cloud Atlas is interesting. Saw Lincoln too. Was really looking forward to that, but probably because I was expecting a Bill the Butcher performance. This Lincoln guy didn't booze, whore and put hatchets in people's backs. And there's zero frontal nudity. Doesn't look like he could put up much of a fight either. They probably doubted there'd be much money in a sequel so they killed him off at the end. Did I spoil that now?

  • Willie summed up Mike Tice as OC perfectly at the top of this thread:

    "Your job required strategy, for which you have none. It required adaptability, for which you have little. It required 3 step drops, for which I saw few. It required not taking the predictability and up-the-gut runs of Turner and combining them with the passes-over-20-yards-only foolish insistency of Martz, for which you exemplified."

    I was excited when Tice talked about running a "Duh" offense. I didn't expect that to mean the worst combination of Turner and Martz. I made many Freudian slips during games this year when bitching about Tice, referring to him as Turner or Martz.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Yeah, who knew the DUH offense would be so aptly named?

    Gotta agree with ya about being the worst of both worlds. I know the OL was the worst in the league (or close) but when you have Cutler, Marshall and Forte with a side helping of Bennett and Jeffery, it's almost inconcievable the offense would turn out so bad. Not all of that was on Tice. Did Cutler EVER audible into a running play? Hell, did he ever audible for anything other than a 15-20 yd pass to Marshall?

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    On a lighter note, here's an Albert song from NYE. I think the first time Warren ever performed with a flying V live. My friend's friend recorded it. The old three degrees of separation. Four for you. Or maybe one less degree. I don't know how that works.


    I may have told you this, but when Mule did the Hendrix tribute on Halloween in Chicago, Warren played a left-handed guitar backwards. It was weird seeing him on stage playing like that. Not sure how the strings were arranged, but I did notice he had problems a few times with the volume and other knobs. He did say before the show that it was the hardest show he ever had to play.

  • Fire Emery! He failed to address the number 1, glaring, major weakness of the bears....the o line. his number 1 draft pick is a developmental type player, a nonfactor. his number 2 pick was a nonfactor. then he blames lovie for his own incompetence and fires him. brilliant!

  • In reply to bearman:

    You're new around here, aren't you?

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    si. and i think firing lovie is a big mistake. doesn't solve the problems of 1. incompetent gms and 2. low talent on the o line.

  • In reply to bearman:

    You are quite obviously the biggest bafoon I've ever read. Please go back to si... forever.

    Do you even get that we talk about American football here not soccer?

    Jesus on a bicycle

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Laughed out loud at that one Canada. There are probably like nine DBB'ers surrounding bearman's house right now.

  • In reply to bearman:

    Lovie, this is a new low... Even for you.

    Somewhere out there is a jumbotron that needs to be leered at.

  • no o line. no consistency and no playoffs. i remember the packers swarming on jay like it was cutler's last stand. emery had to read in stats magazine that this was a glaring weakness. fire him. i give him 2-3 years.

  • In reply to bearman:

    Let's see how this draft looks and who he hires as HC before writing his obit. I'm still undecided if he's Crane Philliips house boy or not. I honestly don't know.

    If he brings Chucky to Chicago, I'd be inclined to think he's made of sterner stuff, as that would be a HUGE break with tradition.

    I'm more inclined to think we will see the Doctor McCoy era. "Dammit Jay, I'm a coach, not a miracle worker!"

  • I half-assed listened to a few hours of Mully and Hanley today on the Score using podcast. Mike Mulligan started out by tearing into Emery's press conference because he used the word "synergy" 6-7 TIMES! THAT"S CORPORATE SPEAK!

    Mully made a big deal about the use of the word "synergy". How fucking stupid is that? He made a big deal about how that's "code" for "business speak". I felt dumber after listening to the first two hours of their show.

    I really enjoyed Emery's press conference yesterday. I thought he addressed all the main issues, defended his decisions, but still left it open for criticism. He didn't obfuscate, but was pretty transparent in his answers regarding decision-making. I respect that about him.

    The next head coach he picks will probably be the biggest work decision in his life. I hope he picks a winner.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Mulligan hates Bears management and ownership. HATES Emery.

    I tend to also think Emery is a tool, but am willing to give him an opportunity to prove that wrong.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Emery actually used the word synergy 12 times. It was pretty ridiculous.. Bottom line he is ultimately going to be judged on his drafting, not his press conferences. And in my opinion the first draft was horrible. I guess Jeffery may be decent if he puts on some muscle, but every other pick was a miss. Hopefully he pulls his act together in this yrs draft. The Bears NEED some young talent for sure.

  • In reply to Justin:

    I can't say that Dinner is a bust just yet, I will say that he looks like 3rd round talent to me.

    ERod is not a bust.

    Compared to Glitchy going for Cookie and Carmini, this is better. It's not Pouncey in the 1st good, but better.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I agree on 99. Way too early to tag him a bust. If I remember correctly GP, you're one of the regs that thinks Dinner was drafted as a LB. Do I have that right? It's hard to judge watching him play end, but I'm betting he looks more like his draft pedigree playing LB rather than DE.

  • According to Mike Wright, a current GM compared Lovie Smith to Bill Cowher.

    It Bill a long time to get a Superbowl ring and believes that in due time, Lovie would have too.

  • Despite himself... and that makes one of us. Dude will NEVER win a sb. He's just not smart/good/savvy/creative/passionate/etc... etc... enough.

  • Had his chance. Wouldn't blitz the turtle, wouldn't ride TJ, wouldn't adapt. Next time we got close Todd Collins was our number two ....

  • A man is defined by his friends.

    Lovie got his shot on the Rams to be DC, and so he paid Martz back. And it backfired on him, Martz' ego was just too big for the building, too big for Cutler, too big for Tice.

    After that fiasco, what serious OC could Lovie have gotten, had they fired Tice instead of him? Who was going to sign up for that train wreck of a line?

    What you are hearing is the football fraternity. Lovie has lots and lots of friends in coaching, the press and even ex-coaches like Ditka rally to him. It doesn't mean that the Harbaughs and Bellichek's aren't light years ahead of him, even Pete Carroll is more dynamic and willing to shake it up than Lovie is.

    Everybody loves Lovie. Except fans. And anybody who genuinely wants to see the Bears goto the Super Bowl. And... I suspect... a lot of owners who are sick of that old school coaches club and want fresh ideas that will give them an edge.

  • I'm not sure that is much of a compliment.

  • I'm just a simpleton, but from what I've gathered regarding the "fiscal cliff" settlement, everyone who pays taxes currently will have a tax increase. In return, the Federal Government promises to raise the debt by at least 4 trillion over the next ten years. Not sure if that includes the current trillion plus fiscal deficit we've had the last four years. If that's the case, we are talking another 20 trillion in debt in the next 10 years. At this rate of spending, over half of all Federal tax dollars will go to interest on the debt by 2020. Happy New Year!

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    God bless the Fed, and their non-Federal privately owned little socks. And God bless everyone for never asking who the richest country in the world owes 16 trillion dollars to, and why. The scam is one hundred years old next month. One hundred years. Lincoln is turning in his grave. And I noticed how they completely left out the Greenbacks part of his legacy in the movie and made it all about slavery, in case anyone started getting educated about where money really comes from and what it is.

    Money. As. Debt.

    When do we wake up? The blacks were freed, now it's time to free everyone else.

  • Anyone else feel like they should just completely blow this team up? I mean trade pretty much anyone with value, including Cutler. Cutler is a year away from needing an extension. With his concussion history, and erratic play do we really want the Bears to invest big time in him? He probably still has decent value in a trade to a team like the Jets or Cardinals. I say move him now if the deal is right.
    I guess I am just a bitter Bears fan, but they have no young talent, and their D is just getting older. This roster needs overhauled big time!!

  • In reply to Justin:

    Jesus Justin,

    'Trade everyone' is simple speak. Let's get with the reality program. Thank you.

    Here are some things for you to start with:

    Peppers: Renew or let go? Da Mustache says keep him, others say let him go. I say it depends on the true extent of his injuries and his personal desire to play, which can only be considered by insiders who really know the guy and what his x-rays say.

    Cutler: Extend or play out his final year?

    Hester: He won't fetch anything in trade, probably, maybe a 4th rounder. Do it or let him show up to camp, and cut him if he acts like a cancer? I'm assuming you would trade him.

    Mike Bush got a fat Chester Taylor sized contract. Guaranteed money, too, so he's counting against the cap even if you release him. So suck it up, he's coming back.

    Others, like Blake Costanzo and Izzy, have value left as role players. Conte and Wright are serviceable, and Peanut and Tillman are the first starters in the Pro Bowl for the NFC from the same team, since the Pro Bowl began. Since we'll probably run the 4-3 next year, seems stupid and pointless to trade them, as they won't fetch what they are worth due to their age.

    We just paid Forte, so he's staying. Marshall is a stud.

    Get the drift?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Peanut AND Tillman?

    Quite the package deal...


  • In reply to gpldan:

    gpldan, obviously the Bears can't trade everyone. I am simply saying that the Bears have no good young talent, extending Cutler is a huge risk with his concussion history and erratic play. Whats the point of being 8 and 8? That's exactly what they're looking at...

  • In reply to Justin:

    Did you eat paint chips as a child Justin?

  • Whatever man, the only thing I ate is a little bit of reality. If you think the Bears are contendors with a couple small moves you could use some yourself.

  • Listened to the whole Emery thing. Figured that if there was a drinking game with "synergy" and "consistency" I'd be passed out half way through.

    But so what? He IS a football guy who gets the fact that it takes a strong working relationship to get the most out of all the parts. Synergy. Never had that with the old guard. I think Ditka and Vanissi had it. So there you go.

    Writers making fun of him for his choice of "business-speak" are showing their own "dumb-jock" sterotypical sense. In addition, there are truths in the numbers Emery cited - and I'm sure that was only a very small sample of what he's figured out to set a more productive irection than the old "defense, turnovers, and ST are enough to win" mantra.

    I highly suspect the turnover thing became our ex-coaches obsession. As if that was ALL that was needed. I don't have the facts to back this up, but my hypothesis is POINTS off turnovers is the real key. And I suspect the Bears were mediocre at best in that category. Meaning it was talent wasted.

    I also suspect that the ex-coach got cause - effect mixed up. We got most of our turnovers against bad teams, not good ones. Good team don't turn the ball over. Therefore we beat the bad teams (sometimes by not much) because they were bad, not because we were so good.

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    #Bears are 1st team to put in an interview request for #Colts OC Bruce Arians, I'm told. Won't be the last. #Chargers among those interested

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