Playing Without Robbie Gould (and with Olindo Mare)

Playing Without Robbie Gould (and with Olindo Mare)

It is not as flashy as losing Brian Urlacher - the face of the franchise over the past decade - for the remainder of the regular season. It is not as deflating as losing Jay Cutler - the offense's only hope for survival - to a concussion. And it may not even be as impacting as losing Tim Jennings - one of the best corners in the sport this season - to some vague necky shoulder thing. But make no mistake about it: putting kicker Robbie Gould on IR is a potentially devastating development for the 2012 Chicago Bears.

Gould is reliable. He is clutch. And he has developed an underrated, accurate leg from distance over the last few seasons. He was borderline-guaranteed points for an offensive attack that has struggled to find them. Did anyone on either sideline doubt Robbie would knock Bears v. Seahawks into overtime as he stared down a forty-six yarder at Soldier Field? Of course not. Because Gould NEVER misses that kick. Not on a Sunday in December. And not in a Division Round game against the same opponent in overtime, 2006.

Most kickers do miss that kick. Olindo Mare certainly has but that's not to attack a player who has a pretty decent kicking resume in the league. 90% of NFL kickers are an out and out crap shoot. Look at Green Bay. Look at San Francisco. Look no further than the final moments of the AFC Championship Game last year. To be able to line up for a field goal with the game on the line and know with near certainty the ball is traveling through the uprights is a luxury the Bears have shared with few other organizations over the last half decade.

The Bears may not lose games as a result of Robbie Gould's calf injury. We'll have to wait for Sundays to know that. But it won't take an absurd dose of sodium pentothal for Lovie Smith and Dave Toub to admit they'll be holding their breath on every kick, from every distance, for the next 180 minutes of football and possibly beyond. That's what happens when you remove one of the best kickers in league history from your sideline.

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  • First to say we're going to miss Gould BIG TIME in the next game...


  • In reply to Bears-4-Ever:

    DAMN YOU!!!!!

  • walk 'em off lad

  • First to say, nice post Jeff.

    Second to say, you dudes better make a sign and get on TV.

    That is all.

  • Hey Doc, if you want to tour the whole stadium like I did then you need to buy the draft party tickets that the Bears give out. Plus, even if you get their early, you will probably only get in two hours early and that wasn't enough for me when I first went.

    My wife tried everything, well not everything thank God, to try to arrange a way for me to meet Urlacher when we went to our first game. In fact, don't be surprised if a lot of star players ignore you. I was only 15 feet from Urlacher and Cutler but I they wouldn't acknowledge me. You might get DJ Moore to come say hi, Garza was nice, and so was Toeaina.

    The players are very serious on game day. If you get there early, you can tour the stadium but it will be freezing and you will not get to see their locker room. The photos and posters are amazing though.. Seriously, I enjoyed going to the Bears Draft party more than the game. I got to meet the players, see their locker room, and tour the whole stadium comfortably.


  • Lovie doesn't like to kick FGs anyway, so whatever....Mare can do the job just fine.

  • Two or three years ago, I called Robbie the best player on the team. Of course, I got my ass jumped. But *at his position* he was the best in the NFL - a claim only Hester could think about making.

    Can't really do that anymore with Marshall on the squad, but there is no doubt that Robbie Gould on IR is a serious loss. We'll just have to hope that Mare can bang off enough rust flakes to carry the load. At least the guy has solid experience.

  • I remember what it was like before Gould got hot. Field goals were a fucking crapshoot in Chicago and routine 35-45 yarders were missed consistently. This is not good.

    This means we have to get more than 2 yards on first down.

  • And the fact that the other team's guys still had trouble when ours no longer did made it even better. *sigh*

  • Oh, and Gurode got waived. Big help he turned out to be :-)

  • doc, I got you a card:

  • how about some goat guys:

  • A better picture from this list :-)

    and a curiosity

  • When it rains, it pours.

  • Can Mare kick in the cold? He played 10 years for Miami, and he looks um, shall we say, tropical

  • I read somewhere that half of his foot was bitten off by a shark in a freak scuba diving accident...

    He now has the metal plate. We're golden.

  • I was trying to youtube Mare when he injured himself celebrating, but apparently kickers are beyond youtube contempt.

    I don't get the signing. He never had a booming leg. He's not clutch (which is the whole point of a vet). And he injures himself.

    There had to be better options.

    Joe Anderson got activated from the practice squad (about 8 weeks too late), so maybe this finally, finally, spells the end of the Hester as #1/2 WR.

    These last losses have dampened Packer week. I'm NOT looking forward to Sunday, which is the first time in a long time. It's beginning to feel more and more like a dentist appointment, no matter how much kool-aid I try to down.

    Thanks, Lovie!

  • Ah, they mythical practice squad receiver is coming up to save the day. Who was that caucasion fella everyone thought was great a few years ago? Haas or something? Anyone?

  • To me, this might mean one less dropped pass or failed reverse with Hester. And maybe the Bears finally just put him exclusively at PR/KR, then, who knows?

    But knowing Lovie all this will mean is Sanzenbacher gets less snaps...

  • Or it means Earl's really fucked up. Anybody heard if 80's still progressing?

  • Mike Hass, active for one game with the Seahawks in 2009 then nothing...

  • Are you thinking of the lesser Grammatica?

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    Indeed, I was! Well, at least we won't have to worry about Mare injuring himself being a bozo.

  • Here's a pretty inspiring highlight from Mare, though:

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    I like the creepy music. Wide left. ex-mia kicker...this is beginning to make me watch "Ace Verntura Pet Detective"...

  • Mare injured himself celebrating, too?

    Or are you thinking Martin Grammatica?

  • I did find this on YouTube:

    "Kick it like Olindo." The guy has been immortalized in song. How bad can he be?

    On the other hand:

    That's Our Mare (to the tune of, "That's Amore"):
    When a kick hits the sky
    and it starts to sail wide
    That's Our Mare
    When the game's on the line
    But you miss every time
    That's Our Mare

    Misses everything
    Hasn't won a ring
    Should be second string
    And you'll scream "What the Hell-a"!?
    He gets paid
    What the freakin' hey?
    Makes me miss the days
    With that John Kasay Fella

    When this season is through
    We'll find somebody new
    For Our Mare
    We'll kick him down the street
    With his two crappy feet, 'cause he's sorr-ay
    When you play for a team
    And because of you they get creamed, signore
    'Scusami, but you see
    Here in old CLT, that's Our Mare!

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:


    That can't be a good omen. I knew my football unconscious wasn't happy with this signing. Oh well.

    On the bright side, Mare (39) makes everyone else look young.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    oh fuck

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    My choice would be to the tune of VOLARE/

    Ohhh Mare!

    Ohhh, NO!

    Where's Robb-ie?

    Where did he go?

    I think we're gonna be sick,

    Watching this guy try to kick.

  • Also, I have a bit of a more unconventional view on the playoff race.

    I want the Skins, Cowboys, Seahawks, etc to keep winning. I want them to put the pressure on the Bears. I don't want the Bears to back into the playoffs like the Lions last year. That almost never ends well.

    Going on a hot streak and squeaking in is one thing. Getting in because of default is another.

    If all those other teams keep winning, that means it won't take much to jump ahead of our competition in next year's draft. Yeah, I'm already bracing myself for next year. Thanks, Lovie!

  • It's getting hard to remain optimistic with this team. Why the fuck do we insist on peaking in October every year?

  • I think we would have a fighter's on Sunday with a healthy roster and competent coaching (maybe even just one of those), but alas we have neither.

    We go into Detroit week 17 at 9-6. It will come down to whether the Lions decide to show up, or if they're already in an offseason slumber.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    "fighter's chance"

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    It will also depend on whether the Redskins lose one of their remaining three games. If they win out then it won't matter if we finish 10-6, they've got the tie-breaker and we're going home. If they lose one of the following then we can afford to lose one of our remaining games:

    Dec 16 @Cleveland 1:00 pm
    Dec 23 @Philadelphia 1:00 pm
    Dec 30 Dallas 1:00 pm

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    if the Skins win out with Kirk Cousins and we go 10-6 because of 3 dropped TD's then it's just fate.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Cleveland have won four straight?

  • I don't think we had a wide receiver with more than 40 receptions last year. (Forte was tops on the team with 52).

    Marshall has 66 receptions for first downs alone. Through 13 games.

  • why I never played hockey:

  • Patriots placed Donte’ Stallworth on injured reserve with an ankle injury and released TE Visanthe Shiancoe.

    Yes. I am interested in Visanthe Shiancoe. That's how much disappointed I am in Kellen Davis.

  • If Kellen Davis is on the 2013 roster, well I don't know what I'll do...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I'll punch him in the egg sack and then run as fast as I can.
    The good news is that even if he catches me, he won't be able to hold on.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Damn. So cold.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:


  • Fuck, anyone looks good compared to Davis.

    Us fans have in excuse in thinking that he MIGHT be good if given the chance.

    But how the hell could coaches who have watched him in practice daily be so clueless?

    Next year will be a deep TE draft class, so maybe we can pick-up Dustin Keller and a developmental TE to go along with our future H-back Rodriguez.

  • Yeah, Artoo, I thought he might be worth a look to but, Caveat Emptor, did you see the INT last night that began it's life as a PERFECTLY thrown shoulda-been-a first-down-completion-slant before it bounced off the hands of Mr. Shancoe?
    Da Bears already HAVE guys who can (mis)handle THAT play.

  • We've got the space, why not?

  • just watched the earl campbell story. Awesome.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    is that on espn's web site anywhere?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Does he make it big? Does he learn to walk again? Tell me the end, I always have to know how it ends before I watch it ....

  • OK, I had a Homer Simson moment there and posted a question regarding the DBB mob that will be in Chi-Town next weekend on a previous thread. MB was kind enough to acknowledge that so far, it's

    * Doc
    * MBP
    * Johnny
    * GP
    * MB
    * And then maybe some others.

    I can't make it up from South Florida but I would like to at least buy you guys a round of drinks at the very least. If you're going to be at Ditka's, someone let me know when and I'll make sure that's taken care of. TIA...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Tobi, if you buy us a round at Ditka's i'll make sure we send you a Lou Malnati's Dinner Pack that will arrive at your house in dried ice via Fed Ex. That would be an epic move on your part. Calling in a phone order to lubricate the boys.

  • We can do that? Shit, I thought Tobi was joking.

    Let me know if you do that Tobi and give me the number. I wouldn't mind doing the same. No presents necessary.

  • fuck you artoo, you're a kid, spend that shit on stock and presents for your navy seal wife. If you try to pay for anything I will fly out to CA and pull my lat muscle trying to clock you as you dodge nimbly like a nimble young man.

  • Fine. Fine.

    I would love to spend my money on the stock market but I was wondering if you knew anyone that I could trust to go for advice? Like a company or someone.

    Plus, I have already spent over 500 on my wife. Yeah. She is happy and it isn't xmas yet.

  • you're a good kid erik.

  • no advisors, no company, no one.

    Go to Yahoo and type in "buying dividend paying stocks", click on the Motley Fool link and type on your email address for their free reports on dividend stocks. You can type it into a regular search engine as well to get some list of the top ones. Pick out the top 3, type them into the neat little free stock tracker that they have in Yahoo and read articles on those companies that pop up into your tracker over breakfast.

    Then go to Scottrade or Etrade and start and acct and start transferring small amounts of money into that account over the next couple of weeks or months until you have a couple hundred in your brokerage acct. Then start buying those top dividend paying stocks one chunk at a time and make sure the "reinvest dividend" button is checked.

    Every time a dividend is paid out on that stock it will buy more stock in that company.

    .....and presto, Chinchilla coats and platinum 25 years. It's the easiest way to grow your money. All you have to have is a sliver of brain and the ability to save a couple hundred every so often that you would normally spend on something stupid.

  • and since it's not necessarily your retirement fund please be reasonable and always stay liquid. The dumbest thing to do is spend 7-19 dollars per trade using money you need for an emergency fund and then needing to sell stock to pay for little emergencies that pop up. Emergency fund first of a couple months of expenses.

  • (smh)

    Tom Cruise. Magnolia. That's all I'm saying.

  • I appreciate the offer but it's really not necessary. I've gotten so much in every way from yours and others posts here, a few on me is the least I can do to reciprocate. I DO need to know though, if you all will be at Ditka's and which night. I figured I'd call them up and have a gift card left for you guys at the door...

  • Did he just say "Lubricate" to her?"

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Tobi. I forgot the guest of honor on that list, MURPH!!!

    Stop it, that very nice of you but you don't need to do that. If you were there I would say yes, but that's too much.

    You're a good dude maings.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Why won't anyone answer my question? If at Ditka's, then when?

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Saturday night, I think?
    What part of FL did you say you lived in?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I'm in the West Palm Beach area...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    8:30 sat night at ditkas in town (not oakbrook)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Thanks, not sure if I can call one in but I can order a gift card online and have it emailed to one of you jamokes. So I need an email address from someone who is definately going as you'll have to print it out and bring it with you. If you don't want to post it here, send it to me at

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Actually, emailing one of you the gift card is probably more secure than having one left at the door for someone named "Fuck you we’re about to beat the Packers and run the table"...

  • Just getting caught-up on the last thread...

    Sorry, Doc. I'd love to go, but I'm on call for an ailing family member. I'll try to make it for the draft.

    Hope you guys have a great time, on Sunday especially.

    Buy a sad Packer fan a drink for me at Kitty O'Shea's. Kidding. Shouldn't kid about shit like that.

    Stranger Danger, Artoo. Some of us Bears fans will poison you, and others will laugh about it in the comments (Heddingery, lol).

  • Bill - I was thinking about your point regarding Marshall and here is a more, uh, kindly retort (although yes, I think when Waffle goes nuclear on you, you earn a merit badge)....

    The elite receivers tend to have moderate YPC numbers because, as Waffle said, they run the whole route tree. The guys that are pure burners tend to have inflated YPC averages because they are not utilized in the underneath stuff or in the red zone.
    I think the Bears O has woefully underperformed this year, but I cannot in good conscience say they haven't used BMarsh to the fullest.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    here was the dead post, while holding a crying baby:

    Tobi, i'll continue this dead post.

    You simply cannot agree with BillW's initial posts. I'm sure he did a great job of bactracking but here are were the main breakdowns before the bactrack:

    1. That Brandon Marshall is somehow a possession receiver and the Bears have made him into that.....even though he is top 2 in 7 main statistical categories that are used to track the most dominant receivers in the game and also has one of the highest percentages of caught balls per target. FUCKING ERRONEOUS BILL.

    2. That Marshall's pedestrian 13.3 or whatever yards per catch is somehow the product of the Bears inability to run 7 step drops. Forgetting that his yards per play are extremely similar to fucking MEGATRON. As if Marshall would somehow use his above average speed to outrace guys that run 4.3's with safeties over the top and catch go routes every time to get his yards per catch up 1.5 yards.

    3. That his 13.3 yards per catch are somehow hampering the Bears from scoring more and that if his yards per catch were higher say similar to Vincent Jackson that he would have as many TD's as him.....oh wait, he has more than him. FUCKING ERRONEOUS.

    To even infer that Marshall is not being used in every way shape and form....EXACTLY THE WAY HE SHOULD BE USED AND HAS BEEN USED HIS ENTIRE CAREER is just nonsense. Check the stats yourself

    BillW decided to illustrate one of his shitty points by pointing out that Marshall seems to be 46th in average yds per reception and that somehow this is some sort of proof of the fault of the scheme. Don't get me wrong, the scheme is shitty and lacks consistency like most 1st year systems but please tell me that the guys 45 spots above him somehow make more of an impact and make Brandon more of a possession receiver even though some of those guys have 1 FUCKING TD, 3 tenths of a yard more per catch and 1/3 the amount of catches. Holy Shit.

    Receptions - 1st
    Targets - 2nd
    Percentage caught balls - 64% almost tops in the league!!!!
    Yards - 2nd
    Yards per game - 2nd
    1st downs - 2nd
    TD's - tied for 2nd

    I don't know how you could be less of a possession receiver.

    Fucking Brutal.

  • but i agreed with his Lovie post so I wrote this out of love and guidance to the young man

  • Wow, to take the time to spell all that out. John, nobody can accuse you of not playing all out until the whistle blows.

    All of that notwithstanding, what were the Dolphins thinking when they traded him? Unless I've missed something, he's been nothing but a model citizen since coming to the Bears. Says all the right things, shows respect fors everyone, you'd think he was running for political office. I'm in Dolphins country and while I don't pay any attention to them, I don't recall hearing much of anything about him while he was with Miami. Of course, due to a previous lifestyle, my memory isn't the best...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I think he had just had the incident at the nightclub.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    what brownie said, they thought he socked that chick and didn't believe his side of the story and were trying to do damage control.....and then the video tapes were examined, the truth came out....and dolphin fans everywhere slapped their heads collectively the next day after the news came out that we got Marshall in a Walmart sale.

  • Many Dolphin fans saw the Marshall trade as preliminary to the Phins signing Peyton Manning (it was rumored that there was bad blood between Manning and Marshall). It seemed far-fetched, but it kept the fans from freaking out, until the Phins failed to land Manning (and then Flynn, and Smith). By then they were so pissed at management, they forgot about Marshall.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    You are right about the bad Manning feeling but they were happy to get rid of him. Not only did he get in trouble when his wife stabbed him, he had way too many drops, and dropped a lot of touchdown passes for the Dolphins.

    Well, their loss is our gain.

  • Really sweet of you

  • I know Jeff isn't covering the Bounty issue because he hates written prose that can't be put to song, but I'm going to chime in anyway.

    The federal Judge hearing the case asked a lot of questions of the attorneys prior to the arbitration hearing that strongly suggested she was going to throw out the suspensions for lack of due process. That ruling would have basically destroyed the disciplinary system that Goodell has tried to make the crown jewel of his administration.

    Tagliabue, in an effort to keep his law firm's biggest client, and in an effort to defuse the situation, basically gave everyone involved a reason not to pursue the matter further. The players have no reason to keep fighting since the suspensions are gone. The league has no reason to keep fighting since Tagliabue found that bounties did happen. And evidence presented is still confidential, which the parties could very well agree to keep secret as part of a "let's all walk away" deal.

    The big losers are the next victims of a Goodell witch hunt - but the NFLPA isn't likely to raise that issue since the players in this case just won a big victory.

    There's a famous case in Chicago right now. A cop beat up a poor waitress, and the CPD did nothing about it for a while. The court found there was a "code of silence" that prevented anyone from testifying against their fellow officer. The city is now trying a similar tactic - they are offering to pay the victim the full settlement immediately (no appeals, no further litigation) in exchange for an agreement to set aside the verdict. She gets paid, and the city can walk away without a judgment that says the "code of silence" exists. Win Win right? Not for the next waitress.

    Tagliabue is doing the same thing Rahm Emanuel did. He's probably furious with Goodell for letting things come this far, but this ruling is his last best offer to the players on behalf of his client, the NFL. No suspensions. No fines. No discipline whatsoever. Just leave Roger's kangaroo court alone.

    Likely nobody will say a word unless the Federal Judge steps in on her own. But if this goes down as Tagliabue wants it to, the NFL will have won big. And it will take an even bigger media circus next time to fix this.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I assume the coaches involved are not affected by any of this....

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Very interesting, NBiT. I guess that means we won't be seeing anything done about how fines are determined and assessed.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    First line was T-shirt material and goes into the DBB annals, the rest was wonderful too.

  • Honestly don't believe that with Gould or not it would make a huge difference. Our offense doesn't continuously put use in field goal situations, and if we are Lovie opts to go for it on fourth down.

  • Our offense is garbage and I could sit here and state why but we all know why. I believe we have talent, and my finger can only point to play calling and coaching. LOVIE NEEDS TO GO, TICE NEEDS TO GO. Almost wish we had Martz

  • A truly hope this happens

  • Good job R2. So, if you are writing for FN again, does this mean you know something about CFT staying stagnant for awhile?

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    Roy is just way too busy. Plus, a lot of my blogs do not get published because he doesn't have time to review them.

    I still can write on CFT but till he has time, I'll just write on FN.

  • Still can.. can still.

  • What does Roy do for a living?

  • Directions to Payton's Hill

    From the Hyatt on Wacker:,+3800+North+Kennicott+Avenue,+Arlington+Hts,+IL+60004&geocode=CUrwHV6uKzw2FbwOgwIdqkPB-iG7IzDPQ0hnyw&gl=US&hl=en

    Not a golfer, but if any of you guys are it sounds like a nice course too

  • I say, fuck it.

    If we're going down, we should go down in glorious flames. I say we let Cutler just chuck it 50 times. GB may have contained Marsh last time, but that seemed like eons ago, and the Cutler-Marsh connection is in full swing, like Pringles at an orgy.

    To me, it looks like the Oline is actually pass blocking better as of late (I must need be really losing it). Leave Forte/Bush in to chip Fathead, and unleash B-Marsh, Alshon, Bennett (if available) and Kyle Adams, with occasional draws, screens, dump-offs and wheel routes. They'll get some pressures, in which case Cutler will just have to reveal his ball-sac and run for it like he always does.

    They'll drop passes, but screw it, they can't drop them all (?)

    We might go down, but at least it won't be the usual angst ridden close-game till some 3rd quarter meltdown. Will either go up early and the crowd and D will feed off of it, or flame out and begin looking at draft prospects.

  • The Bears have massive clusterfuck potential right now. If they can just harness that power, they'll go through Green Bay like a goat screw.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    According to this book "The Secret" if you wish it, it shall come to pass, as proven by MBs cosmic channeling for JAs termination.

    So, I'm meditating full time now, harnessing that power, visualizing random scenarios and imagery of Packer defeat. Not sure if that's what the book had in mind, but, whatevs...

    But,'s a secret.

  • Don't shush me.

    "The tongue has the power of life or death. Say it, speak it, believe it." -- Bear Jesus

    I'm going to give it a try. It can't hurt. It's Packer week, should we be miserable? There'll be time enough for that when the deal is done. Nobody likes a party pooper. Give MB a nice warm feeling this Chrismas season, to keep him from shaking when the cold wind rips through his sun-tanned twat. I have no alcohol gift cards to give. Peter Pan. Tiny Tim. Who's with me?

  • I thought the pass blocking against the Vikings did not stink. It's Hairball v J'Marcus Fatball come Sunday though.

  • I have tried everything possible to get this weekend off to get to Chicago and meet you guys.

    At the local hospital where I work I'm in an on-call rotation of 3 guys. Normally either of the other two would swap weeks with me, but this weekend one is in Florida, while the other's daughter is getting married. It ain't happening.

    Normally it would not be possible for me to want a win over the Packers any more than I always do, but this time, with you guys traveling there from all over the USA, it is just that much more important to me. It's like my family is at that game. The Bears MUST win this one. They've just gotta.

    MB, I hope your magic juju extends beyond your birthday. You got rid of Angelo, now get us win at home against the Packers. Note: Do not try wearing your birthday suit as an offering to the gods.

  • In reply to MikeV in OR:

    +1 on the Navy & Orange taking down the Packers for the family

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

  • From Clayton's mailbag (pertinent to us).

    "The firing of Baltimore Ravens offensive coordinator Cam Cameron was a surprise in its timing. But it also illustrates a problem in the NFL.

    Where do coaches find the right offensive coordinator? The constant churning of head coaches is part of the problem. An average of seven coaching changes a year for the past three decades has gobbled up so many coordinators -- both on offense and defense -- it's not allowing a lot of coordinators to grow into head coaching jobs.

    And clearly, it's put head coaches with defensive backgrounds in a tough spot trying to hire the right offensive coordinator.

    John Harbaugh thought he had the right coordinator in Cameron, who was a Norv Turner disciple and who has a great knowledge of the "Air Coryell" type of offense. Even though there has been reported friction between Cameron and quarterback Joe Flacco through the years, the Ravens were always good enough to make the playoffs.

    But the frustration built over the past year. For some reason, the no-huddle offense didn't work as well in road games. Criticism was always leveled against Cameron if his play-calling neglected Ray Rice in the second half of games. Losses to Pittsburgh and Washington led to the internal Ravens explosion that led to Cameron's firing. He was replaced by Ravens QB coach and former Colts head coach Jim Caldwell.

    Caldwell will probably implement more no-huddle and install more plays Flacco likes. If that works down the stretch, Caldwell will probably take the full-time gig.

    If that doesn't work, it won't be easy hiring an offensive coordinator. Look at the landscape. Seven head coaches call their own plays. Nine coordinators are former head coaches, but a 10th, Chris Palmer of the Titans, was fired weeks ago. That leaves 15 coaches who started the season as pure coordinators. Some -- with a list headed by Jay Gruden of the Bengals, Mike McCoy of the Broncos, Greg Roman of the 49ers and Dirk Koetter of the Falcons -- could be lost to head coaching jobs.

    Former Raiders head coach Hue Jackson is an option, but he'll probably get the Bengals job if Gruden leaves.

    Coaches may have to look to colleges to find options if the right fits aren't available in the NFL. "

  • Any coach worth a damn would come up with their own system, based on what has worked/failed in the past, moving forward, whilst also containing their ego enough to adapt it to the roster available.

    Whomsoever it may be the new(?) OC needs to have a NEW philosophy.

    As for all of the "Fire this guy, fire that guy" talk .... we fired him already .... but his inability to do his job will cost us well into the future.

  • Regarding Ditka's, any one of you, send your email address to, thanks:
    * Doc
    * MBP
    * Johnny
    * GP
    * MB30SD

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Oh yeah, include a real name to go with your DBB handle, thanks...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    MB30 should probably do it - I don't have my printer back yet.

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