Next Two Games Will Define Bears Regular Season

Next Two Games Will Define Bears Regular Season

Here is where the Bears stand as they enter what Lovie Smith labels "the final quarter" of the 2012 regular season. They are 8-4, tied for the lead atop the NFC North (which they'd currently lose on a tiebreaker) and two games ahead of a small crop of middling contenders for a wild card position. None of the final four games of this year are unimportant by any means but the next two - at Minnesota and home to Green Bay - will define how the performance of this schedule will be looked at in January and beyond.

Minnesota

If the Bears beat the Vikings Sunday in Minneapolis it would essentially end any hope for the purple to make the postseason and all-but-assuredly put the Bears in as no less than a wild card. They would hold at least a two game lead on Dallas, Minnesota and St. Louis while also holding head-to-head tiebreakers over each one. (The only club that might pose a threat is Tampa but they have a schedule that does not lend itself to making up two games.)

If the Bears lose to the Vikings, all bets are off and the remainder of the regular season becomes a dogfight, complete with a LOT of scoreboard watching.

Green Bay

If the Bears lose to Minnesota, their home game with Green Bay is a battle for survival - not for the division title.

But if the Bears beat the Vikings (and the Packers hold serve against the Lions) it sets up a great December showdown between two heavily-flawed but talented teams on the Lakefront. If the Bears won they would have a one game lead with two remaining. If the Bears lost, the final two weeks of the season would become about deciphering what road stadium they'll be traveling to on Wild Card Weekend.

And think about it this way. All of the wins and all of the losses...will any of them mean anything to you if the Bears wake up on Monday morning, December 17th as leaders of the NFC North? If the Bears beat the Packers on the Lakefront and take control of the division will an overtime loss to Russell Wilson or humiliation at the hands of Colin Kaepernick be any more than a footnote to the 2012 regular season?

These next two games are everything. They are the season.

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  • 1st things 1st. Beat the Viqeens.

    Hope to contain AP and keep Allen at bay.

    Would like to see someone take a crack at that guy on one of our interceptions...just sayin.

    Take the phucker out.

    mmmbearsss

  • I'm over the Seattle loss. Honestly, we had no business winning the Carolina game. We pissed this one away, now we're even. Onward and Upward (if we can get healthy).

  • Yepirs...it's shit or git time.

  • You're right. Winning the next 2 games will certainly dull the memory and the pain of the last couple losses.

    But

    The problems revealed (and injuries sustained) in yesterday's debacle will linger, nonetheless.

  • Fans need to recalibrate their imaginations.

    The Bears are not an "Elite" dominating SB favored team.

    The Bears are a scrappy (Shakespearean?) flawed wild card team, same as last year, and the year before, and the year before, and...

    The Shakespearean question is the deeper issue. Our Shakespearean flaw may not be Oline, or WR, or personell...but much worse. Coaching.

    LOVIE.

    Whether this season turns out to be tragic or epic will tell us (and hopefully Emery) whether this team will be perpetually doomed like Othello, or the more indecisive, Hamlet...

    But alas, our fate lies not on the stars, my fellow brethren...

  • please don't get me started on this.

    the regs know how I feel. Yes, we're 8-4, and yes I promised you and myself to wait to see how the entire season pans out before getting back on this... but I am just so sick of not having a team that we can count on to win and be winners CONSISTENTLY.

    Alas, it's not all lovie's fault... but he needs to shoulder a reasonably large portion of any blame that needs to be meted out. I just want to win... against all levels of opponent.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Here's the million dollar question:

    Do we keep losing against elite teams because of the players JA drafted?

    OR

    Do we keep losing against elite teams because Lovie gets continually out-coached? (Also, his input into JAs draft).

    OR

    Is it both? If so, we got rid of JA...

  • bof.

    yes, on my birfday last year.

    My birfday is coming up again soon... so maybe....

  • We've never had an elite team, bar The Era. In 2006 we had no QB and no receivers. Now we have no line and an aging defense. This season was the season - the defense will perhaps look/play a lot differently next year.

    Jerry A-hole did a lot f damage to this team, and it was never going to realisticallly get fixed quickly. Teams are built, not slapped together.

    To playoff or not to playoff? That is the draft pick.

  • I'm going to stay optimistic in spite of the way the 2008 season ended continually creaping back into my peripheral vision....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    creeping, creapy, take your pick....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Hey Tobi, you can't catch any breaks in FF.

    Calvin went off, and almost defeated me singlehandeldly, but then Bryce Brown put up 27 points for me!

    Yeehhhaaa!

  • Just you wait until next year. No quarter asked, no quarter given....

  • btw, I don't see how Earl could have gotten concussed on this play: http://i.imgur.com/LKjeK.gif

    His head never even touched the ground.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Helmet to the hip. Helmet to the lower back. 6-7 foot fall and landing on his side. That is a shitton full of impact in about one second. I guess it would be like someone getting concussed after a car wreck, even though there was no head bump.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    hmmm... pussy.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah, maybe. After watching the replay i was thinking the wind knocked out of him would be the worse case scenario. Sometimes they wussify after they get paid, I like him though. Exact opposite mentality than Hester. You know Hester would have just dove at the feet of the D (three yards short).

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    I was just kidding. Bennett is one of my favorite bears. Just been hurt a lot in the last couple years. He should be almost as big a part of this o as BM in my mind. Tice is totally lost and clueless.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Sure looks to me like his head slams into the defender's knee or foot, although its a bit fast to see at live speed. Which should tell you something, MB.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hey MB, I think that he got concussed on his drop. After he misses it his head hits the turf, and as he's getting up from that one of the Seattle DBs pushes his head right back down again. Look it up you'll see what I'm on about.

  • you're welcome: http://profootballmock.com/nfl-qbs-on-facebook-divisional-rivalries/

  • Hey.. you guys like apples?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://youtu.be/MZ70hbvaPdU

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    how you like dez apples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1no_IgHag7Q

    (nice try $)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I like them apples much better. Ripe and plump, yessum.

  • Note to moron that thinks I'm an "idiot" for wanting a team here in Chicago to just beat the shit out of their opponent.

    I want it in NOW doofus.

    Drink another bottle of Bluebird Gin and dream about "the Jordan years"...

    It's December 3 and their is a tornado warning in Ogle County.
    Just not enough data on that Global Warming shit.

    It's Bear weather in Sanibel.

  • In reply to Jack Lacan:

    I happen to agree with you about the bears jack.

  • In reply to Jack Lacan:

    WTF is Bluebird Gin? Sounds awful.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Applesauce bitch.

  • There is a structural engineering class taught at most major universities, mine included. And my college room mate was atking the class. It involved using popsicle sticks and rubber bands and glue, and you had to make a bridge between two tables whose gap was about 10'. And the professor pulled a Tonka trunk full of very heavy bricks across your bridge, and bridges that held up got good grades, etc etc.

    And there was this team of engineering students on this team - and they were just SO SURE they were onto a design that would work, they spent all weekend building this bridge, and some issues came to light when the bridge was tested - but they pressed on with some dummy toy trucks and they thought they had it.

    And then the Prof. showed up, and replaced mason bricks with VERY heavy cinder bricks, moving the weight higher than he told the students to plan for.

    And this team's bridge, I remember it well, the truck got half way across and the whole thing collapsed and they got a D.

    That's the Bears. So sure the design is going to work, and not planning for the bigger weight. And failing. Year after year of bridge collapses, and still pressing on - so sure that the design will work with some tweaks.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Nice analogy. Like I asked before though, is it the materials (which the GM, or even owner, provides), or the engineer (The coaches)?

    You ask the greatest engineer to build the Golden State bridge with Popsicle sticks, and I don't care how smart he is, it ain't gonna happen.

    This roster is still essentially JAs, so it's hard to judge the forest from the trees. I'll tell you this much though, Lovie has never been accused of outcoaching anyone.

  • I don't know 4e85. Every time we win Lovie is essentially out coaching the other guy. Simply because we do almost the exact same thing every week. Granted, Rod M. will throw some nice packages in there early, but you, myself, and every coach in the NFL knows the exact play we run on every down(offense and defense), if we have a 10 point lead.
    Still though, I am all in with Lovie. I hope he gets a few year extension. And my father is going to disown me for saying so.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    so am I. WTF!?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    good lead up GP. Nice story.

  • Brandon Marshall's 4th quarter catch vs. Seattle (has it been posted yet?):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc3QY9Ic7kc

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    god DAMNIT!!!

    We should have won that game, like, 10 times over.

    Fuck fuck fuck FUCK!!!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Well..sadly..we didn't...lets make sure we win the rest...ESPECIALLY...the next 2.

  • Didn't have access to the game so I followed on the internet. What a fucker.

    I remember reading an article on PFW's site at the start of the season. It was a scout's take on the Bears after a few wins. He said an undersized D that was old and relied on speed would collapse toward the end of the year. When I read that I thought Fuck You! The more I thought about it I thought Uh-Oh.

    Last year Tebow gassed our D (I rationalized it was at altitude and that was the biggest issue). This year Wilson gasses us. I'm not giving up on The Beloved because I never do but I have zero hope of us moving on in the playoffs (if we make it). Damn.

    I've been one of Lovie's staunchest supporters over the years but even I'm coming around to replacing him. I still have a ton of respect for him and won't be pissed if he stays but I totally understand if he gets sent down the road. I still think all of his teams have been terribly flawed due to obvious holes on the roster every year. However, after all these years it's hard to justify his continued employment with a record not very far north of .500.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I've been a big critic of Lovie on occasion, but the problem with getting rid of him is that you have to replace him with somebody. All you have to do to know that the coaching talent pool is incredibly thin is to look at some of the names that are somehow currently employed in the NFL: Turner, Reid, Crennel, Rivera, Garret, Whisenhunt, Shurmur, Frazier, Schwartz.

    Who can we get that's a lock to be better - short of coaxing Cowher back to the league? What are the odds that we end up with a complete stiff?

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    And even that presumes Cowher still has it, which we of course do not know.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    As I've said many many times before right on thishere blog...

    I'll easily take a flyer at being great with Cowher, over knowing that we'll somehow find a way to creep back to ‘mediocre’ as usual with lovie.

    Hey the guys love him! YAAAAAAAY!

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    Rivera probably won't last beyond this season in Carolina. I'd be tremendously happy with him as HC. He made the defense a top NFL unit, and he wasn't working with the best materials.

    I'm betting that anything short of a Superbowl appearance gets Lovie fired this year, especially if Rivera and/or Cowher is available.

    I'm of two minds about Cowher, but I don't think he would be problematic the same way Lovie is.

  • Haven't posted in a coon's age, sorry, but I DID order my t shirts! I loved gpldan's college story and analogy. Btw can't those smart-as-snuff engineering students just google that professor and find out he does this every year? (Just sayin)

    PLEASE lay off Jack Lacan. We all need to have respect for a Bear fan that's been around since 1940. Respect for our elders (sorry Jack but that's a fact and I pray that I am blessed to get to your elderness) should be a part of our society, right? And MY first memory was of Jack Kennedy's funeral when I was two months past the age of three, so I credit Jack's memory.

    Here's my view of this loss and this season - honestly it's been a pretty freaking great season so far. The three we lost prior to this were, in retrospect, understandable - one to a great team and two to injury is how I mark it. This one was a tough one, but had its share of great moments. Seahawks won it fair and square is how I see it - big ups to Wilson, he's very impressive and got better as the game went on. I supported the Lovie decision but won't next time (nor will he) - at the moment it felt right, we were doing what we wanted against them. Bennett makes that relatively easy catch and the game's ours. Major makes the catch and the game's ours.

    I feel very confident about several things, although none of them impacting this year. I feel very confident about my namesake Phil Emery. I feel very confident about our beastly QB Jay Cutler. I have unsurpassed man love for one Brandon Marshall. I feel very confident in our defense even after yesterday.

    I don't necessarily have confidence in the following things, more or less stated in order:

    1) our offensive line
    2) our tight ends
    3) Mike Tice as OT
    4) Lovie as a Super Bowl winning head coach
    5) our succession plan for the great Peanut and the great Ur

    But seriously, I have had a BLAST watching the team this year. Still have much to play for, and hopefully playoffs to get super psyched for, then the most excited for offseason I will ever be because I trust our new GM. He had to play much of the hand he was dealt and it will take a few years for him to fully imprint his stamp on this team but I am looking forward to watching it.

    Go Bears! Dehorn the Vikings!

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    Phil! What's happnin' old timer? Welcome back.

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    Refreshing post Phil. Most of what you said rings pretty true.
    I thought the offensive line did fine in pass protection yesterday though. I don't remember Cutler having that kind of time in any game rhis year. The run blocking wasn't as good as I would have hoped
    for, but it was a good start for a reshuffled line. Keep rolling with the positive energy my man. Its nice to hear.

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    Hey, Phil !

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    Hey Phil, nice to hear from you man. You still in France?

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    The coin flip killed them. The defense needed a rest. They also needed to stop a third time once in the last two drives. I think there were 8 conversions.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    You need good safeties. Safety and OL was our big need coming into this season. OL and safeties are what will kill us. At least give Steltz a go ...

  • Steltz played the entire game, and it was obvious that we missed Conte's range. Steltz is too slow. Sevicable, but a notch or two below Conte.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Agree big time Mike. At least hold them to a FG in OT so that the offense would have had a chance to come back in and win with a TD.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    From end of regulation to getting on the field, the defense had as much time to rest as they needed to get their legs back. Another 3 minutes of an offensive series (ending in a punt or FG or TO) wouldn't have helped them any more.

  • little off subject... and not to start old fights, but this looks to me like:

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/03/justice/george-zimmerman-photo/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

    * He got his ass kicked
    * His nose is broken for sure
    * He has cuts on the back of his head... not easy to make without a sharp object or serious blunt trauma to split the skin
    * He had litterally zero cuts/abrasions on his hands

    you can make your own judgements and decisions from there.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Great point MB - what's going with George? Travesty of judgment imo, but more importantly what's happening with the trial? How long has he been in jail? (or is he?)

    I would hope this is one case where we can ask to jump over standard ideological positions and agree there was a rush to judgment against George. My hope will probably prove unfounded.

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    phil, nice to have you back. come by more often sir.

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    http://news.msn.com/us/bloody-new-photo-of-trayvon-martins-killer-released-2

    june 2013 phil.

    Damn

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    He was released with a "by your leave" and no charges immediately after shooting an unarmed kid to death. I don't see how that constituted a "rush to judgement".
    The process should have played out, as it is now.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    His lawyer released the photo. I'll reserve judgement until the photo's provenance is verified.

    Given that Zimmerman was told by the 911 dispatcher to cease and desist following Martin, he's still culpable for the kid's death, even if the kid did beat the shit out of him.

  • btw, know who's an absolute basass when not injured.... A. Bradshaw.

    Man that dude is shifty and a tough runner. Like him a lot.

  • One of the worst football shows of all time was NBC's Sunday Night Football when Bob Costas and Keith Olberman were the main guys. It was more a political show than a football or sports show.

    They got rid of Olberman, and Costas has mainly taken a back seat since then. But last night, at halftime, Costas used the murder - suicide from Saturday to profess his political beliefs about gun control. He was quoting the great scribe Jason Whitlock. Renowned blowhard Michael Wilbon applauded the post.

    Today Jason Whitlock made Costas proud by incongruously comparing the NRA to the KKK. I think these ass douches should stick to what they do best: writing stupid sports columns or giving commentary that gives no insight into the actual sporting events being watched.

    Disclosure: I am not Dan Dierdorff and I enjoy the politics on the blog. Just not on sports shows.

  • fucking ouch... that dude's knee is toast. wow. that sucked.

  • Absolutely NO POINT in looking any further down the schedule than the Vikings.

    With the current trend, who the heck knows who'll even be able to suit up in two weeks?

    Giants didn't have anymore success chasing down RG III than the Bears chasing Wilson.

    STUNNING stat I just heard on postgame: The Giants are 0 for their last 10 AT HOME on Monday night.

    And still, they are the Defending Champs because, as we all know...

    "Statistics are for losers".

  • I think at this point the season and our chances all ride on the Packers game at home. I think we have the Vikings number especially coming off another embarrassing loss. The Bears will be fired up AGAIN and AGAIN they will take it out on the Vikings. We need to stuff Peterson because if the Vikings learned anything last time they will need to use him more and earlier.

    Bears - 22
    Vikings - 13

  • In reply to Bears-4-Ever:

    exactly. Not to worry boys... this is exactly as I planned it all along (go back a few months and read my posts)

    The NFCN title, the losing to the packers streak, the chance to get a ticket to the playoffs punched, and hopefully lovie’s fucking job... all reside on the packers game, of which I and some of the boys will be in attendance.

    I will also be bringing with me, my can't lose mojo... as evidenced by the Rams game drubbing while I was cheering on the beloved.

    Not to worry boys, my evil master plan is being carried out JUST as envisioned. here comes four wins in a row followed by a waltz into the playoffs healthy and on a hot streak. SB here we come!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    And you knew all this because your one of the Illuminati, aren't you? Admit it! F'n Freemason, I thought so all along...

  • this more your style Willie?

    http://uncrate.com/stuff/air-jordan-xx8/

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That has to be the worst thing I've ever seen.

    Don't socks go on the inside of shoes?

  • know what I realized?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QOBk93NAk48

    Reindeer are shallow, fickle, and cliquey bunch.

  • I take it even if we tie with the Packers at the end of the season at 5 and 1 each, the NFC north title goes to the Packers cuz they beat us first?

  • In reply to MaddBearfan:

    First? You mean because they won the first matchup?
    I am confused.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    For the division title (wild-cards are different), tie-breakers are as follows:
    1) Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
    2) Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
    3) Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
    4) Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
    5) Strength of victory.
    6) Strength of schedule.
    7) Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
    8) Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
    9) Best net points in common games.
    10) Best net points in all games.
    11) Best net touchdowns in all games.
    12) Coin toss

    So, not only do we need to beat the Packers, it'd be nice if we obliterate them.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Now wild-cards.

    Go!

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Hah, was enjoying lunch at the beach...sorry for the delay.
    Since the wildcard tie-breakers are much lengthier, I'll just pass along the URL:
    http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Good grief! I'd love to pound their faces into the Soldiers Feild Turf, nicely pound them. I don't hate them, just wanna WHOOP THEIR ASSES!!!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    13) Penis size (measured by length X Girth) Thanks to Pringles, we have a decided advantage if it goes that far.

  • Cylindrical volume would be length x (girth / 2)^2 x pi.

    Just sayin'.

  • Hiya to Phil. Nice post.

  • Bye bye Lach .....min three games
    !$/'??@##@@!!!!!!!

  • Welcome back DeCicco....so who gets more action? Geno Hayes? Do we take a flyer on Aaron Curry who was in for a "tryout" last week?

  • The "if"s just keep a cummin. Well , ain't that just peachy!!!!

  • Ugh - gonna miss Lach calling the D.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Gonna miss seeing Lach play on the 16th.

  • Anybody know where I can buy a Geno Hayes jersey...cheap?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I predict Roach will move to the middle, and Hayes and McClellin will handle that spot.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I think I would rather give JT Thomas a shot over Hayes. McDinner had trouble in the open field last week, in my opinion.

  • http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/8709812/brian-urlacher-chicago-bears-expected-miss-3-games-report-says

  • fuck gents... that may be a harbinger. Damn it man... injuries are quietly destroying this season's hopes.

  • Fuck
    Fuck
    Fuck
    Fuck

    I can't think of anything else to say........

  • Ungah Bungha.back practice squad w Blanchard

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Blanchard actually got released from the squad. Hopefully, no one picks him up.

  • Lach is out at least 3 weeks...and you know what, I'm not even that phased.

    Lach has been limping around, unable to cover the middle, or push off his knee to shed blocks and smart teams have schemed at him. We were asking Conte and Wright to cover for Lach, and that was putting stress on the D (esp last game when Conte wasn't on the field).

    I'm not terribly excited about Roach in the middle, but he's actually been covering well this season, and supposedly, he's smart (though not terribly athletic).

    Geno Hayes will move to strong side, and I do like him. Aggressive. DiCiccio is back. Like the Godfather, they keep pulling him back in. I know a lot of bloggers on here give him shit, but I think he has potential. And if you don't believe me, believe Toub, who said his loss was huge for the SP teams, so there's that.

    No one can make up for all the adjustments Lach does at the line, but what we lose knowledge, we make up for with strength and speed.

    If we end up in the playoffs, this might be a blessing in disguise since the Bears will not only get a chance to see how life after Lach will unfold, but also have Lach rested and hungry for the playoffs.

    Just imagine how big a boost Lach running out there in the playoffs would be.

    But first thing first, Roach, Hayes, it's time to man up.

  • Can we please give Thomas a shot before Hayes?

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    I like Thomas too. They both played well in the preseason, but Lovie almost always sides with veterans over youth (the anti- Caroll).

    From Da Site...

    Geno Hayes

    "PRO CAREER: In 4 seasons in Tampa Bay (2008-11), started 42-of-56 contests played... Registered 248 tackles (200 solo), 29.5 tackles for losses, 7 sacks, 4 interceptions, 1 INT return touchdown, 4 forced fumbles and 1 fumble recovery... Added 7 special teams tackles and 2 blocked punts, one of which he returned for a TD... Has 29.5 stuffs – a tackle of a rusher for negative yards – according to STATS, second most in the NFL since entering the league in 2008... Led the NFL with 11 stuffs in 2009 and finished tied for second with 11.5 in 2010."

    Hayes seems a little too undersized for me, esp when AP just ran for 200, but maybe they want him covering Rudolph (esp since Harvin will be out or extremely hobbled).

  • Fuck you ChicagoNow. Fuck you in your little gnome code bearded fucking face.

  • TE Todd Heap got released too...any takers?

  • http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8709574/todd-heap-arizona-cardinals-released-according-source

  • yes please... but he's more of a blocking TE cut more in the traditional mold. Not a Jimmy Graham type.

  • Ready for a laugh... god knows we all need one right about now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=87d2duPjmjc#!

  • http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

    This will help figure things out. Before I heard about Urlacher, I thought the Bears could escape with the NFCN. Now, I'm thinking Wild Card.

    Ironic, that between GB and the Bears, one will get a bye, and the other is the #6 seed--unless either/both teams shit the bed and miss the playoffs entirely.

    I'm hoping the Giants continue to tank it. The Bears traveling to Dallas or DC for a first round game? Me likey.

  • we need to win the rest of our games. Please god.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If Allah wills it then it will be so.

  • and by Allah I mean Brandon Marshall.

  • holy sheite... muslim!

    So, where are we meeting Friday night for a big assed DBB drink?

    You off the MW3 drank?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i can't lie, i hid the MW3 in the garage and now I play when no ones around. I'm an addict.

    I think i'll be in NV man but i'll no more next week.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    btw, I filled in all the weeks and we're going to end up the 2nd seed... you know, because I've been so god at predicting wins in the past. (yikes!)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You HAVE been god-like...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    hahahah, yeah right tobi. I was/am total dogshit. I get too invested in certain teams. Also, who the hell knows who's going to win these days.

  • you serious? DC? we couldn't tackle Russel Wilson. you don't think Bobby G. would shred us?

  • In reply to evantonio:

    Wilson was an aberration. I don't think RG3 would run wild on the Bears. Just a hunch, more than anything.

    My point was more that I wouldn't want the Bears going to NY to play the Giants. That's a nightmare scenario. Washington's defense wouldn't be able to contain Cutty-to-Marshall, and chances are the NYG would break Cutty in half (again).

  • RG3 might not, but RG25 will!! Ryan Grant is back!

  • i agree with the not wanting to play the giants. they scare me. plus, being an nyc boy, i wouldn't want to have to deal with 1,000 calls and texts in the week leading up to the game.

    i think rg3 would break contain time and time again, but i agree that their defense wouldn't be able to stop marshall.

  • Someone else who should be nice and fresh for the play-offs:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4680831/jennings-arm-in-sling-receiving-treatment#more

    Here's the gist of it:

    Bears head coach Lovie Smith did not provide a timetable for how long Jennings would be out when he addressed the media on Monday, but there was optimism in the postgame locker room that Jennings could return before the end of the regular season.

  • fuck me man. are we ging to have any starters on the fucking field for the next 3-4 games?

    Anyone? Bueller?

  • Fun facts:

    --Sunday marks the third meeting between the Bears & Vikes this year.
    --The first game was @ Minnesota on New Years Day.
    --The Bears 17-13 victory saved Lovie a losing season.
    --It cost the Bears at least 6 spots in the draft.
    --It cost Brian Urlacher a knee.
    --After the game, Lovie said of Urlacher:
    "He heals a little bit quicker than most people, so he should be OK."

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    God I dislike that tool.

    Bring on Cowher please. I've had enough of lovie.

  • watching a cooking show on Chicago...

    They're at Al's Italian Beef.

    Locals... where are you taking us? Shady? Johnny? GP? Murph? Anyone?

    Al's? Wienner circle? Get a pie? How about Ditka's before the game?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    geno's east?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Should be your choice. You know a lot of the famous stuff. I'd personally do Lou Malnattis before Genos east

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    You guys have to try Pizano's. Not a bad item on the menu and there pizza crust is like no other. I used to live right next door to the State St/Chestnut location. At the time, that was the only one but check out there website for one closer to where you might be staying:

    http://www.pizanoschicago.com/index.php

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    nice, thanks Tobi. You going to be in town?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I really wish I could make it. Haven't been back home since 07. That's OK, reading over my posts, I think it's best that I stay down here and work on my punctuation and spelling...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    So many great pizza joints in Chicago. Lot of neighborhood joints but really great pizza. I personally like those best when you find the gems, but with the guys coming from out of town, they sometimes like to hit the more well known places everyone will ask them about when they get home from Chicago.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Screw famous. I want the BEST Chicago style pizza regardless of whether it's famous or not.

  • Assuming the recipe hasn't changed in the ten years since I was last there, you'd be doing yourselves a great disservice not to try Pizano's pizza...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    best pizza in chicago tobi. fuck yeah.

  • NBC reporting Urlacher done for the year. You are gonna see all second stringers MB

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    fuck me murph. God damn it man.

    My dream is turning into a nightmare... and we have one more game to survive.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    damn: http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/8709812/brian-urlacher-chicago-bears-expected-miss-3-games-report-says

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/grizzly-detail/Bears-Prepare-to-Play-Without-Urlacher-182053581.html

    Mike Adamle thinks he's done for the year.

  • http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/04/jake-long-done-for-season-maybe-done-for-miami/

    Jake Long might be the hottest target in FA this off-season. That probably means Emery will not go after him as he tends to avoid overpaying for guys (look at Forte's deal, decision to go after Mincey instead of Williams, clever deal with Briggs). But there is the Marshall/Long Miami connection.

    Have to say it would be amazing to see Cutler, Marshall and Long all agree to take discounts so that they could play together. Even though Long isn't playing at his peak, he'd be a huge upgrade for us on the left side. And I know it he hasn't been great on the left, but would JWebb be an upgrade to the right side?

    There are moves to be made in the off-season. While the Bears fight to survive the injury bug and make it to the post-season, I hope Emery is quietly making the moves he needs to bring us back even stronger next year.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    long and claddy please.

  • Maybe our offense can score more than 17 points a game. We're getting Alshon back, and maybe Bennett.

    If the Ravens can win without Lewis (and Suggs, and Jimmy Smith), then we can win without Lach and Jennings. No excuses.

  • Good point. When's the last time around here that someone went down and the next guy up made him look replaceable? Not saying it hasn't happened but I just can't remember. Maybe if I think about it for a while...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I've thought about it and I think it might have been a place holder...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    didn't bowman make vasher look expendable? then i believe lovie found a used bag of dildos that made bowman look expendable?

    and now bowman's back.

    full circle is a beautifully funked up thing.

  • +1 on yer points comment. Damndest thing, isn't it, that Cutty is a game-changer, undeniably makes the biggest difference in our W/L tallies if we had to pick one guy, and all of a sudden, his 17 points seem pedestrian when the D doesn't score too.

    I think it was MB that said in teh game thread that it was surprising to all of us when our D didn't get a pick 6 in every game. Now, we're shifting it all on Cutty's shoulders to make up the lack of defensive points.

    Peanut going to be okay this Sunday? Return to form/expectations?

  • This weekend in a nutshell:

    Bears 34
    Vikings 9

    Lions 28
    Packers 24

    When you have a hard as woodpecker lips franchise QB, doesn't every other injury seem insignificant?

    Get Some!

  • In reply to Viva:

    LOL!

    The kitties haven't won in Wisconsin since 1991. That's 20 straight. I mean, the Pack is banged up, but they aren't THAT banged up......

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Are you serious?

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    yes?

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Actually, the Vikings have won nine times in GB since 1991:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packers%E2%80%93Vikings_rivalry

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Actually, it's 8.....but we're talking about the Lions. The Packers are playing the Lions this week.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Whoops, not sure why I was thinking Vikings but you are correct about the Lions. While they came close a couple of times, their last win in WI was 1991...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    The Lambeau drought for the kitties will end on Sunday.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Yeah, it's entirely possible. Pack should have lost last week. I think it's more likely that the queens take down the bears, though.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Personally, I give neither the Lions or the Vikings a chance in hell of winning Sunday, injuries to the Pack and Bears be damned.

    I think the 16th looms huge.

  • Living in MD and seeing lots of Ravens games, lots of similarities in losing Lach and Ray Lewis. Both teams have veterans a plenty and trouble winning if their D is not lights out. Jennings hurts more. I am wondering who is going to man up now and fill the huge leadership void.

  • ....would also be nice if Pep shows up in the 2nd half of games. Fuck the Queens.

  • In reply to Guinness Please:

    +1

  • The difference between Jennings and Bowman is huge. But Ponder makes it tolerable this week. Bowman against the Pack? That's a serious problem. We've seen what that looks like. I will miss seeing 54 on the field this weekend. Sad. But if it had to happen, now is about as good a time as any. His bum leg was going to be a HUGE liability against the Vikes. Time to step up Roach/Hayes/Shea. Big shoes to fill in the middle.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    Wait, Bowman is backing up Jennings? Why not Hayden or DJ Moore--who have been on the roster the entire season?

    There's a reason why Bowman left Chicago, and it wasn't because the Bears loved him too much.

    I like the guy, but I don't think he should be first one to strap on when Jennings can't.

    And when it comes to #54 not being on the field, in some ways, isn't that a plus? Roach takes Mike, Briggs stays at Will, and Chicken Dinner takes Sam.

    Chicken Dinner was spying the QB late in the game Sunday, and running the fucker down, too. Let's see if he can play strong side.

  • Pretty sure Hayden's been playing nickle and Moore has
    been inactive. I could be wrong here but I thought that's what they've been doing.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    I think you're right. It might just be coincidence but it seems the last time he played was prior to his comment about Cutler pushing Webb...

  • MB, are you guys renting a car?

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Not planning on it Murph... City baby. Cab it!

  • Since Lach is out for about three weeks, I hope we see what JT Thomas can do. I'm not a big fan of Deccicio returning.......

  • Wasn't it MB'S magic that helped bring Marshall here or was it Waffle? Anywho, you guys need to summon those powers yours again so we can get Claddy and Long. Jay and Marshall could be great motivation for Claddy to be a Bear. What do yall think?

  • In reply to OsosFan:

    Here is what I think about Ryan Clady: Franchise Tag.

  • This is my first post ever. I saw this on youtube and absolutely had to create an account to share it with you, shitheads. This commercial is hilarious and I am really surprised the NFL decided to put Cutler in it. So much better than looking at Clay Matthews' ugly face these days.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glmdu3Th_GY

  • In reply to ShowMeHowToCutty:

    You've got to get up pretty early in the morning to get one past us shitheads. That was posted only about a dozen threads ago...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    you're welcome shithead.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    that was for shithead not you tobi.

  • In reply to ShowMeHowToCutty:

    First time I saw it, and it's hilarious.

    Of course it's not on rotation where I live (Ohio), because that would require everyone to acknowledge that Cutler doesn't lack a personality (other than being an asshole).

    The national narrative (thank you, Brickbrain Bradshaw) is that Cutler's a dick. We can't have anything portraying him as funny or clever. That shit's reserved for Pey-Pey and Dreamboat.

  • McManis can ball, I'd put him ahead of Bowman.

    I also vote for JT Thomas ahead of Hayes at SS. Thomas is rangy and can provide a threat to rush.

    I think we will see the "Jumbo LB" package in there with Chicken Dinner and Briggs behind 4-down with Hayden at nickel.

    If we get Jeffery back, we could get it together on O.

    Old Sauce has to cook up some new looks, though. I think teams have figured out the Peppers at tackle thing. Be nice if Izzy could turn back the clock a little.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yes! Another JT Advocate!

  • I'll be frank, this is the probably the worst part of the year for me as a football fan.

    Why? Because when the injuries come in; the Bears and Lovie might be the worst team in the NFL to adjust. The best? Tom Coughlin and Mike Shanahan. I've seen Shanny teams line up 6 rookies on D and play tough ball. Coughlin takes hard hits to his team's roster as a matter of course, and keeps the ship sailing forward and winning games. The Bears? The Bears lose an oar on their boat and it starts sinking.

    I hope we get Jeffery and even Hester on that Viking turf would be a weapon if he has his head right. But this is the part of the season where coaching really matters, and that's why I get annoyed, because I don't believe in this regime. I want to, my heart will root for them and those guys out there, but my brain keeps telling me what a bunch of shitheads Lovie and his whole staff are, and will fuck it up.

    I guess I turned a corner on them when they dropped the game to the Packers on the last regular season game, and then the Packers ran the table, came back to Chicago, and smoked us. I really just gave up on Lovie Smith that day, and right now the Bears would have to prove me wrong, but I don't think they will.

    I think we can beat the Vikes at home, because our talent is better. So I go into this weekend expecting to win.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Shanahan is awful. And overrated.

    What has he done since he had Elway? Nada. Zip. Losing record overall. A trail of discarded, unimproved, even broken QBs.

    But your point about Lovie is well-taken. He couldn't adjust if his balls were caught in his zipper; he'd just stand there with that look on his face that says, "I'm not sure what the rules are of this game.... you call it 'foot ball'?"

  • In reply to gpldan:

    +1 GP.

    I should have rephrased "Lovie has never been accused of out coaching anyone" to "Lovie has never been accused of out coaching an elite team - H.C."

    Case in point. That 9er game. I remember specifically Gruden going into a 1 minute powerpoint illustration of all the running formations they were showing the Bears. Three tackles, wishbone, I, pistol, option, off balance, bootlegs...

    Then there was Forte for 3 yds and a cloud of dust. A sweep is as exotic as we get, and we're supposed to be a running team.

    Another case and point. Coughlin used 3 safeties against the Pack due to inj on their secondary and thoroughly beat them.

    Billichick had no WRs, so he says, fuck it, I'll revolutionize the TE position. Gronk is out? Fuck it, I'll use some 5'8 white guy off the street to score 3 times.

    Anyone see that MNF game between the Skins and Gmen and all the looks the Shananhan gave the G-men?

    A team can always scheme away their weakness, but that relies on the ingenuity of the coach.

    Adaptability is the #1 asset of a great coach, and I Lovie is as inflexible as Martz ever was.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I kind of like this time of year - the time when the superbowl pressure is released and you realize that once again, this is not the year.

    Thanks for the memories Brian. We'll have a nice draft pick this year to try and replace you ... but trying is all it will be.

  • boooooo hiiiiisssssss booooooo.

    Bring back positive irish!!!!

    Gotta at least give em a shot at it maings. All we have to do is beat the terrible A.Peterson's this weekend and pull a total upset at home against the pretty bad pack and we're guaranteed a shot in the playoffs (just like everyone else), if not a even a 1st week bye if everything goes our way.

    At that point we'll have lach (maybe), TimmyJ, and some others back. Any given sunday lad. Keep the pistol in the drawer for now.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I don't expect Lach back at all this year, if ever. Hopefully, I'll be surprised.

  • I propose that the Honey Bears come back. They should help with some extra motivation.....hopefully. lol.

  • Wow... "sanchize is our QB"

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/football/nfl/12/05/mark-sanchez-jets-quarterback-rex-ryan.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a3&eref=sihp

  • and you're welcome: http://www.cbs.com/shows/victorias_secret/photos/

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