We have spoken ad nauseum about Lovie Smith's status as head coach of the Chicago Bears. Today he is no longer in that position. I'll let you take over in the comments below.
First to say, didn't see that coming. It will be an interesting offseason to be sure.
And as my last BURMA SHAVE post suggests, neither did I !!!
I had seen it coming, but a little later than 9 a.m. today. But reportedly, they had to get it out now so that they could get permission to interview Mike McCoy during bye week.
I HAVE GONE FROM SMILES TO SAD TEARS AND BACK TO SMILES! LOL!
NOW WE GET SAMURAI MIKE! LOL!
In that the consensus is that they need an offensive mind (in the sense of being able to run the First Phase), I don't think so. Also, I don't think Virginia wants to be mooned.
Witht he sheer number of Head Coach vacancies, aren't we a little worried about getting a quality replacement?
Not with Emery in charge.
Any HC candidate has to know that Chicago is probably the best place to coach--plenty of endorsement opportunities, great city, great fan base--you just have to put up with less-than-ideal owners and whomever the GM is.
Emery has signaled what his regime will be like; any HC who doesn't need to go on a power-trip with GM-like powers would be stupid to pass on the Bears.
Seriously; that's not homerism. Lovie couldn't get a OC worth a damn because Lovie was in charge & everyone saw it as a sinking ship. Emery has righted the franchise, and only the guys who want power Emery won't give will stay away.
Cowher might be on that list, but if not, I'd take him.
I still think Cowher is a fantasy. I'm not even sure he WANTS to coach again.
Well, I'd like Cowher, but he's not the be-all, end-all for me.
I think he'd be good, but I trust that there are other good candidates (who would be cheaper, no doubt). I mean, Lovie was a good hire, and I was 99% oblivious to his existence before he got the job. So there are probably plenty of excellent candidates out there who would make me not give a rat's ass about Cowher.
Of the big names out there, though, Cowher's the only one I'd give the job to.
I'm very meh about Cowher. I don't want someone else's retread.
We're sure on the same page on this coaching thing, Posse.
This era's version of Vince Lombardi would be nice; you know, someone to win half of the coming decade's Super Bowls.
I think we have a good chunk of the talent necessary. I almost think it's a requirement to find an innovater in at least one phase of the game. Somebody who takes the strength of the roster and finds ways to emphasize it.
HAPPY FUCKIN' NEW YEAR!
Happin fuckin new year to you too IBNO and belated congrats on winning the contest from Crown.
Wow. I just logged in to post the link to Biggs - which was a great read (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-chicago-bears-brad-biggs-10-thoughts-20121230,0,1379278.story) and seaw the Lovie headline. I'd just been up on the Tribune and didn't see anything - that was Fast!
Is he the first coach to get canned with a 10-6 record?
I think Marty Schottenheimer might have also gotten the ax with a 10-6 record but I'd have to check...
I actually think old Shcotty won 12 games, then got canned and they hired Norv.
(Then again, Schotty was like the Romo of coaching)
Wasn't he 14-2 but one and done again in the playoffs?
Well the Shea Mac pick makes since now. That's a standup 3-4 OLB if I've ever seen one.
I don't see the Bears moving away from the 4-3. Maybe Chicken Dinner is a 3-4 OLB, but none of the other guys up-front fit a 3-4. Melton is neither a 3-4 tackle (too small) nor DE. Pepp isn't a 3-4 OLB or DE. Wooton may fit as 3-4 DE, Izzy is a good 3-4 DE...
bottom line, the Bears are built as a 4-3 team. It would be a complete tear-down of the D to go to an odd front.
They would have to find a monster for nose tackle.
The plot thickens.
It's not a given that Peppers stays...although I can't believe he wouldn't be an effective tackle. He lines up there frequently enough.
I hadn't thought about Pepp being cut loose. It would make sense--if the Bears were loaded with picks and didn't have to re-build the OLine, too.
Don't have to get a replacement through the draft...we have the cash to play in the FA market again this year.
Melton's looking for a contract. Urlacher. Lance Louis. Cutler might have to get tied up ... or not, his numbers weren't good this year. Lot of guys on the team with contracts up, we'll have a very different roster next season, there won't be a lot of cash around.
What if he were traded? This may in fact be a tear down and reboot.
Major Players who I think can fit a 3-4.
McClellin. (pretty obvious why)
Pepp. He's 6'7 280. I actually think at this point in his career he would make a better 3-4 DE than a 4-3 DE.
Paea. He's always been a "tweener" and would make a good 3-4 DE too.
Briggs. Surprisingly. I just think he's athletic and savvy enough to be more flexible than we'd probably assume. I also think that missing the PB and seeing all those 3-4 guys make it might add some incentive.
Conte. Already a CB/S, he can cover or blitz if needed.
Jennings. A true cover corner.
Major Players who would not exactly fit a 3-4
Peanut. His strengths are perfectly suited to a cover-2. Unless he moves to FS, not sure he'd be a good fit for a 3-4, but he's such a competitor, he might be able to make it work.
Melton. A protypical 3-tech DT, not sure he would make a good 3-4 end.
Wright. It's not that he isn't athletic, I just wonder if he's smart enough to pick up the intricate coverages, blitzes, zones of a 3-4 safety. If not, we still have Hardin, which might have been Emery's contingency plan all along.
Naturally, Lach not a fit either, but not sure if he's even gonna be back.
I think Emery was drafting without regard for Lovie's scheme a year ago. You just can't explain picking 99
otherwise. Hardin was part of that until the injury
Yeah, that's what I was thinking all along as well. That's why since the beginning of PS I said that the more Lovie proclaims McClellin a DE, the more I think he's gonna eventually move to LB.
I really don't want to see the Bears switch to 3-4. I think it shows desperation rather than innovation.
What Lovie Smith with this defense for the past 9 years was nothing short of elite. You've got the Steelers, Ravens and Bears. What other team has been so consistently good on D?
I agree - a 3-4 is not a prerequisite to success, especially on championship teams. Now, in a couple of years, I could easily see that happening with the amount of turnover we will see at key positions. It sort of depends.
I agree, but the Shea McClellin pick and Lovie firing points to a 3-4 and new D.C.
Unless Toub gets the H.C. job, I can't imagine the new H.C. wanting to keep any remnant of Lovie. All H.C.s have their own guys. And if the new H.C. prefers the 4-3, it'd seem ridicules not to keep one of the best D.C.s in Marinelli, thus leading me to believe that it's going to be a whole new regime and philosophical change. But I'm just reading the tea leaves here.
On the flip side, Lovie will probably take Marinelli wherever he goes, so they won't be jobless long.
can we stop talking about hardin already please.
I am happier with Lovie gone than I would be with the Bears in the playoffs. Because I don't think the Bears would've won one game in the playoffs (going to SF to open? ugh), and even if they would've won one, they wouldn't have gotten any farther. And without at least an NFC championship, I'd rather have Lovie gone.
Now I kinda wish the Bears would've lost yesterday--then they'd get a significantly better draft pick. How many places in the draft did yesterday's win cost?
It was beating Minny last year that did the same thing ...
How about a Gruden offense with a Maranelli D ?
I think Gruden is another fantasy.
For evidence, see my post below.
One spot at the most, probably zero spots. Only the Giants are 9-7.
The Bears finally have a GM that doesn't screw around. Nice change from Angelo. No dithering.
And I don't want to hear FOR AN INSTANT any stupidity about Andy Reid coming to Chicago.
Hopefully, this will prove a good move. That "grass is greener" thing...
"I think it's going to be a sad day at Halas Hall," Cutler said. "I have a lot of respect for the guy. He's made friends with a lot of the players. He's a players' coach."
That is exactly the problem. Lovie was too much of a "player's coach." He couldn't get the most out of his players & couldn't hold them accountable because he was too deeply in their corner. And his strengths as a "player's coach" could not make up for his glaring deficiencies on game-day and in managing his assistants.
I'm a firm subscriber to the HC not being a "player's coach." He's gotta be the Bad Cop. Let an assistant be Good Cop for the players. The HC has to be the guy who sets the tone and holds everyone accountable. It's like being a parent--you can't be your kids' best friend; you have to be a parent.
The question is going to be whether Cutler pulls the same thing he did in Denver, which got him here.
This is silly. Different players need different things.
There are plenty of examples of Bad Cop coaches that basically destroyed their programs (Josh McDaniels jumps to mind).
There is no silver bullet. If there was, we would have figured it out by now. You need to find someone that fits the players you have. I hope Emery can do that.
Let me clarify: I don't mean "Bad Cop" = asshole. I mean "Bad Cop" being the guy who sets the rules & tone of the organization, and holds people accountable regardless of what kind of day they're having. Being a "player's coach" as a HC I think sets you up for trouble--look at the way Lovie treated Tommie Harris. It was inconsistent, at best, and any "Bad Cop" HC would've let Harris know what was expected of him, and cut him when he didn't deliver--rather than fart away a couple seasons.
"Rex Grossman is our QB" is another example. "Bad Cop" doesn't throw his players under the bus, but he does not stand between them and legitimate critique.
Bears HAVE to be #1 coaching destination.
We got 5 PBs. So, what you say, so do the Chiefs?
Well, we got a franchise QB, WR, and good HB.
We got 2 PB CBs, a monster DE Pepp, and very effective DT in Melton.
We're still top 10 in sp teams, believe it or not (could've been top 3 if not for that blocked kick to Ariz last week).
No drama team, in a major city, who won 10 games...
Who the hell would rather go coach the Bills, Chargers, Eagles, Chiefs, Jags...?
At least with the Chargers, you have nice weather year-round.
The Eagles theoretically have a good group of players.
That's the best I can say about any of those vacancies.
I think I can add the Browns aka "Factory of Sadness" to that list.
I really think it's all gonna come down to how much power the G.M.s are willing to cede.
The top H.C. candidates are gonna want more control, possibly even G.M. powers (ala Bilichick), and there's no way of telling what Emery has in mind.
I can see more desperate teams willing to give potential H.C. those powers.
We also will have tons of cap flexibility this year.
I am starting to believe that some folks on this blog like the offseason more than the season. With that said I agree with the decision tha tbpnow is the time for Coach Smith to go. Welcome to a three year rebuilding plan. New defense, new awfense, new special teams.
No playoffs next year either.
No playoffs next year? I disagree.
Cowboys are trending down. Seahawks are flash-in-the-pan (sophomore slump will drag Wilson down down down). Minny rode AP's 2000 yards and a last-place schedule--they won't get either next year.
The Bears get a good coach, some help on the O-line, and they're easily a 9-win team.
Broncos OC Mike McCoy is on the Bears' interview list, per the Score.
Not sure about that.
SF did pretty well in Harbaugh's first year.
Colts won 2 games last year, and 11 this year.
How 'bout the Vikes? The Texans brought in Wade at D.C. and instantly became a powerhouse.
Look how fast rookie QBs progress. The NFL learning curve seems to have accelerated on all fronts.
The Bears have a lot of vets who can learn a system faster, and we're not even sure if it's going to be a complete makeover yet.
colts made the playoffs in their first year of a rebuild. nothing says we can't, as well.
I think we're just more used to not being in the playoffs, we're conditioned to deal with failure as Bear fans, not success. I don't want to see Webb false starting in the playoffs, stumbling out of his stance as A.N. Other rushes by him.
We can get a tackle in the second round (do we have a second round pick?) judging by Biggs reference to Super-bowl winning left tackles. I think it was one out of the last ten were first rounders.
We're not getting Urlacher's replacement with #20.
How about a QB? That Russell Wilson looks pretty good. Wouldn't it be novel to draft the future of our franchise in the first?
Bye Lovie. You were nice, but lost.
Adios, Lovie. I couldn't be more happy to see you go. In your final season of settling-the-score vs Green Bay, you were beaten twice, and left begging for their scraps as the Vikings, a team that doesn't deserve to be on the same field as the Bears, kicked their defenseless asses.
About time!........let the rebuilding process begin.
Exactly what i wanted to read when i woke up this morning. Here's something I would like to point out. No coach has won a superbowl with two different teams. So think twice about Cowher, Gruden, etc...
Ben in NorCal, was that just you on the Score talking about Gruden???!
The Score in Chicago just had a caller named "Ben" from Concord, CA (I think it was Concord, and Concord is in the SF-area, if Google serves me).
Ha thats funny but no, I live in SF.
Don't know what other Ben was saying about Gruden but I'm not a fan. As someone stated above, no head coach has gone the distance with 2 teams. I'm a Dave Toub guy
Hear Bears asked to interview Broncos OC. And to add to the Shottenhiemer post. He was fired after winning 14 games in the season.
Good riddance! As I mentioned awhile ago, Emery's move seems to be a wind of change going around among the upper management and now this move proves my point further.
I believe that if Emery is able to can Lovie despite McCaskey loving him so much, I think that someone is really pulling the strings and maybe the McCaskey boys are finally sticking to non-football operations. With the national media being so prevalent and the Bears franchise having fans across the nation, I think that someone is realizing that they cannot let this franchise be the laughing stock it has been the past decade or so anymore.
I wouldn't doubt for a second if Emery will be able to pull in someone who's a proven NFL OC or former head coach. Perhaps even some of the hottest college football coaches out there. Jay Cutler will be FINE!
Jay is extremely smart, that's why he's the way he is....he needs the right coach/mentor and Lovie was not it. I'd be pissed and upset all the time if my coach/former GM could not get the right talent built around me to protect me and the OC could not come up with the proper game plan.
The last decade has not been a laughingstock. See 1970s, see 1990s. Those were bad decades. The Bears have been relevant over the last decade+
I think Jay Cutler is a franchise quarterback, but this next go round with a new head coach and OC is his last chance to make the jump to show he can beat good teams and command an offense that actually wins games.
Million dollar question.
What does Emery REALLY think about Cutler?
That might be Emery's first question to H.C. candidates, and if they're not on the same page, next...
I think you're onto something here.
Though, it stands to reason that the Bears will be looking for a HC who will be with the team after Cutler is done.
They aren't thinking that far ahead. Average head coaching tenure is something like 5 years.
Made the playoffs 1 in the past 6 years, Lost eight of their past nine to the Packers, lost six straight to the Packers, 17-19 record in December with smith, and have lost seven straight December games since 2010. How much worst would it have to get Jeff before you would fire this guy?
5, 4, 3, 2 1... FIRED.
I personally think this was a foregone conclusion from the point where we lost to the Packers again, at home.
Yeah, the only thing I want to hear at whoever the new coach will be press conference is "I'm here to get this team to win it all each and every year"......if there's a smidgen of any mention of beating division rivals, then I will know that someone has their hand up his ass and is puppeteering him to say stupid shit because you all know what I am talking about
I am inclined to agree with you. It was the most disappointing game of the season for me.
It will be interesting to see over the next couple of days what happens to the rest of the staff. Hopefully, this means that Drake is gone. Please so it's so!
Can we keep Marinelli? Toub?
Toub should want out. He want's to be a coordinator. I think keeping Marinelli, might be the key to a quick turnaround. Defense has quietly been adding some good young players. Conte, Wright, Jennings, Melton, Wooton all stepped up big this year.
Seeing as how, I think the Bears need to draft 7 Offensive Lineman :) , not much room for adding to the defense.
I've backed Lovie his entire tenure in Chicago until after that game. You can't win in the NFL without an offense. Over the combined 9 years span with Lovie as coach, the Bears offense ranked 31 out of 32 teams. I'm just fed up with watching shitty OFFENSIVE football.
Yep - watching the in-game incompetence in person, while we're supposed to be fighting for the division lead, at home, against the damn Packers...that put me over the edge. I walked out of that stadium convinced he had to go.
We couldn't get a decent OC with him still here, so he was finished.
I'm with you. Same feeling towards Coach Smith. After that game, I was thinking same nonsense. Year after year. Offense needs to win games not manage them.
A list of possible HC candidates.
Cowher ----- my choice
Greg Williams --------fat chance.
Mike Singletary -------- If he cools his jets somewhat.
OC Norv Turner DC Singletary is a real fit here
Emery had better make the right choices here or he'll get a very short leash on an extended contract.
Bill Cowher is a defensive coach, Williams is a defensive coach, Singletary is a defensive coach. Williams and Singletary aren't even in Smith's league as defensive coaches.
The new coach of the Bears will have come up on the offensive side of the ball.
Singletary has shown no qualifications to coach the Chicago Bears
Agreed. Not. Gonna. Happen.
Maybe as linebackers coach. I think that's about as far up the totum pole as he gets next year.
Ryan's nickname for Singletary was 'stupid'. Puts all his faith in God, and that doesn't work in football. Give me a guy who understands offense and let Maranelli do his thing.
Rivera is expected to be fired from Carolina.
McCoy HC/OC, Rivera DC?
That looks nice.
Why not keep Marinelli?
A new HC isn't going to want Lovie's sloppy seconds--particularly an assistant who himself was a HC.
Toub might stick because he's known as a whiz, and he's never been a HC. Tice is gone (incompetence), but Marinelli goes. No way a decent HC keeps much of the former staff.
Unless the new HC is already on staff...
I'm not going to quit banging the drum for Toub to get his shot until it's confirmed that Emery is looking only for an outside candidate.
I think even if Toub were the right guy, Emery wouldn't hire him. This is THE defining move of Emery's GM-ship. He's got to hire an outsider. Either he gets a high-profile big name, or he gets a "virgin" (never been a HC before) wunderkind.
And whoever the new HC is, he's likely to clean house, and Toub might hang on. But, given all the other HC vacancies, Toub is probably going to be heading for KC or Buffalo (aka teams with some talent but lacking in leadership).
Toub IS a virgin.
Mentioning desirable locations, Buffalo is sure up there :-). Have they done anything since the Marv Levy, Jim Kelly, and Bruce Smith era?
Nothing sloppy about the Bears defense. Blowing everything away as a new head coach is how it goes most of the time. But most of the time you don't have such a disparity in the quality of the units. A decade of incompetent offenses, vs a decade of good to great defenses.
A new defensive guy almost guarantees another year out of the playoff chase.
I said "sloppy seconds". Not calling the defense sloppy, just saying Marinelli was Lovie's DC and I don't see any new HC keeping Marinelli.
"A new defensive guy almost guarantees another year out of the playoff chase."
Yes, because that's what happened when the Bears canned Babich. Or Rivera. Or Lovie (as DC).
A new DC doesn't hurt the Bears' chances of going to the playoffs any more than a new HC.
I disagree. I don't know how strongly. Depends on if the new DC has a completely new scheme. Although if the scheme fits the personnel better (IE no speedy Urlacher in the middle), who knows. This team is built to get pressure up front, keep the big plays in front of them, create and capitalize on turnovers.
Emery has given us the gift of a very interesting offseason. Again. Wish they were as interesting during the season.
not so man not so. what we should be concerned about is Jay and a new system again.
I don't get how people think coaches naturally progress to being a HC. It's a top managerial position at the head of a multi-billion dollar business, yet complete lummoxes get the job because they used to play ball or they farted near Vince Lombardi once .... or their dads used to be the DC for the Bears......
on defense yes ,but not as head coach
Given Super Bowl XLI, I don't get the love for Rivera.
If you only knew the inside story on that game. Rivera wanted to blitz the shit out of Manning knowing full well if they sat back he would expose the weak links of the Bears and Lovie told him to fucking stick it. They were done with each other after that.
That's how Dan Marino hammered the Bears in 85. Ryan wouldn't stop blitzing even though Ditka wanted some balance. It is just plain wrong to rush only four all the time - especially against dudes like Manning (P).
Because he was part of the 46 defense, and Lovie canned him for Babich, earning Lovie our eternal contempt.
Heck, we would rather than Mongo McMichael than Lovie.At least Mongo didn't talk in corporate speak and accuse others of being ignorant. And his chihuahua could probably do a better job of protecting the QB.
Lovie Smith was not the guy out on the field. As Tice said after the 49er game "sometimes, you just have to man up and make a block"
I guess I might have made that implication, but in any event, those on the line didn't even chihuahua up.
Cant disagree with that
Lovie Smith reportedly fired because he publicly rooted for Green Bay.
You know what, for the first time in a long time, I'm actually really excited about this next draft.
Between Emery and the mystery coach, we might finally build a franchise that can win games when the snow falls and injuries strike.
Green Bay could have been Lovie's lifesaver,but he went down with the ship. Hooray Red Stripe.
I'm not going to cry for Lovie but I always liked him. Tough to get fired after going 10-6 but the timing makes sense. He wasn't getting an extension and the lame duck thing is never good. With #54 all but done, a new coach and new system will probably not include the bald one. Same thing with Cutler. If the new guy says meh, Cutler won't get renewed unless it's at the Bears price.
The good news was Emery has already requested interviews with other teams. When we got Lovie it was after a contractor picked Angelo after a too long search. Because Lovie was hired so late he got leftovers for coaches. If we move quickly on the HC Emery should get "his guy". Let's hope Emery knows what he's doing.
I'm not as jubilant as Lovie being fired as much as I was with Angelo cause Lovie was a good (not great) coach, but the Bears deserve a great H.C.
I now have full faith in Emery. He wasted no time, and his draft picks now seem a little better in retrospect. Once Emery finally gets his coach and system in place, his drafts will be more focused and improved.
The new team philosophy will also determine who will get resigned and who we will go after in FA.
It's a new era, for better or worse.
One thing's for sure. Emery is not one to dick around. I'm betting this whole thing goes pretty quickly. He appears to be a stone cold mercenary. Let's just hope his eye for talent lives up to its billing.
Jesus Christ, no Mike McCoy. Any of us could win that many games as the OC with Peyton Manning as your QB. He practically brought his Indy offense with him to Denver. If we are going offensive coach then Jay Gruden might be the best choice, while leaving Rod as the DC/assistant head coach. Or seeing what O'Brien did with Penn State he might be a good choice. I'm just hoping we do not hire Reid, Turner, McCoy.
My short list would be.
1. John Gruden (He takes over a similar situation to that in Tampa and I think he could get them over the hump)
2. Gus Bradley (If we hire a DC to head coach this would be my guy, Pete Carroll is an idiot and their D has been pretty good)
3. Jay Gruden (He has had a very good tenure in Cincy and does have head coaching experience, granted at the Arena level)
4. Dave Toub (Staying in house might be a good idea since the team is ready to win now only other choice would be Marinelli)
5. Bill O'Brien (Offensive minded did a good job at Penn State especially considering everything that happened there)
This should be the premier job opening, how many other 10 win teams fired their head coach this year. Obviously someone should see the Bears are only a step away from playing in the Super Bowl.
Per your list, do53...
I have again stated my opinion below on the possibilty of hiring Jon Gruden.
MY favorite on your list would be the JAY Gruden Idea. He's worked pretty well with a combo of Andy Dalton- A.J. Green-B.J Green-Ellis and which would seem to be an easy transition to Cutler-Marshall-Forte. And the HC experince in the Arena league doesn't hurt.
And, assuming Jon stays at ESPN, maybe he could pick his brother's brain from time to time.
Well I guess you could say there's a lot of football left . ooops I forgot thats what got us here in the first place . We need a coach with a pulse not someone that stands around doing nothing but being a place holder . Does anybody remember what Black and Blue division Football means. Find somebody that can spit a little blood.
A loudmouth coach cures nothing. If the loudmouth is an offensive genius, than ok.
Appearing on The Herd Monday, ESPN's Chris Mortensen mentioned Colts interim HC Bruce Arians and Bengals OC Jay Gruden as potential candidates for the Chargers' head-coaching vacancy.
Gruden would bring a conservative-style West Coast offense to San Diego. Arians, who is a legitimate candidate for NFL Coach of the Year after effectively holding down the fort in Indianapolis following Chuck Pagano's leukemia diagnosis, will be a hot commodity in the coming weeks. His offense is also more similar to Norv Turner's with a downfield passing attack and power running game, so there would be less of a transition for Philip Rivers. "
"CBS Sports' Mike Freeman reports that ESPN color analyst Jon Gruden will interview for NFL head coaching jobs this offseason.
Gruden has stated publicly that he intends to remain at ESPN, but Freeman reports that teams have been "quietly" contacting him "over the past few weeks," and Philly as well as San Diego are potential landing spots. Per Freeman, Gruden could begin substantive talks with teams as soon as Monday, and is interested in a return to the sidelines "if the right job opens up." Updating previous items, Cleveland is not expected to make a run at Gruden because he's long had a frosty relationship with new Browns president Joe Banner. "
According to Alex Marvez of FOXSports.com, Falcons offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter is set to interview for vacancies with the Eagles, Chiefs and Browns.
The only thing I believe strongly is that ESPN and all the other talking heads have no idea who is going where.
Here's a big bucket of cold water for those of you still fantasizing about / dreaming of a hire on the scale of Bill Cowher or Jon Gruden.
NFL.com reports the Bears have ALREADY CONTACTED OTHER TEAMS for permission to interview coaches.
That means current assistants.
That doesn't mean they have not contacted RETIRED or no job coaches.
But you notice they wanted to be FIRST IN LINE for the assistants.
Just what in their history makes you think they are going to hire a former head coach?
And it seem pretty obvious to me that Emery wants HIS guy. I just don't see HIS guy as a former Head Coach.
They did that before hiring Martz, talked to EVERYONE else ... and then begrudgingly put the barrel in their mouth and pulled the trigger.
Bears, Bills, Chargers, Chiefs, Browns, Eagles all fire their H.C.s
Cards, Panthers, Jags H.C.s still might get fired.
Jets keep Rex, but fire G.M.
Jets GM: SOMEBODY had to pay the TEBOW TIME bill.
Just the NFL's way of saying ...
"HAPPY NEW YEAR and don't let the door hit you in the fanny on your way out!"
One thing to keep in mind, the kitties did NOT fire Gym Shorts (thanks GP, that never gets old). No matter how pissed I get at the McCaskey's, at least they aren't the Ford family. They are, by far, the most inept family owners in the league. I'm not saying the kitties are a powerhouse but look at that roster and tell me that's a 4-win team.
That team is a disgrace. Love never took a team with that much talent and let it get away from him and under achieve. If anything, his impact was the opposite. He kept the ship steady. 10-6 not a bad year. Just not good enough. Timing was terrible. All we needed was an average offense over the last decade and the Bears would have been chasing the Super Bowl every year. But when we had most of the pieces we didn't have a QB. When we got the QB the other pieces where shit. This year felt like the offense never got its legs under them and the defense ran out of gas.
Kyle Shanahan should be on the list. He's done a great job where ever hes gone. He can scheme according to QB talents. Look what he did with RG3 and the Kirk Cousins. Two different game plans, success with both and made them both look good. Has some history with Cutler from his Dad. If we are looking for a cocah with no experience he would be at the top of my list>
NOT bad, Mongo.
Mongo, I love your point. He adapted his game plan to the talents of his QB. That is an exceptional quality. Search should stop right there.
But how much of that is his dad?
That's what always worries me about hiring coordinators. Look at all those Pats cooridinators who failed miserably without Bilichick.
He's only like 34 too, I think.
Will he be able to reign Cutler in (who is 29)?
Ok, someone try to help me understand the benefits of hiring Gruden? I just can't get past the fact that every time I watched the Bears on MNF, he was obviously not rooting for the Bears. His comments were always shitty and the only time he would acknowledge anything positive about the Bears was when the play by play person would state something blatantly obvious that was good that Gruden would agree only apathetically. I seriously cannot see Gruden wanting to ever step foot near Chicago after the several years hearing him on Bears MNF. Someone enlighten me so that I can try to be open-minded about this suggestion of him being HC?
Pretty much an offensive genius with experience and a Superbowl win. Has some fire in his personality, whats not to like?
Actually makes the case for him. Based on his offensive "genius", what he saw the Bears doing was terrible. Terrible built on top of awful, without a blueprint.
Man, were we watching different Monday Night games? Gruden would always say something pregame concerning Cutler...
"The Bears have to do this for Jay, Have to do that for Jay. Jaws, I would love to get my hands on a team with Jay."
The man is drooling for the Bears job.
You just made an argument for Gruden.
He CORRECTLY diagnosed the Bears weaknesses. If he said the Bears were shitty, it's because they were (he was there for the 9er massacre).
But that whole "no coach has won a SB on two different teams" kinda worries me...
This wont be a total tear down, Bears want to win and win soon for Momma McCaskey. They want a Super Bowl win before she kicks. We have a good young nucleus on the D, The O needs a better OC and help on the line. Depending who is name HC, we may have seen the last of #54. I dont think the Bears or anyone else will be willing to pay him big bucks. #34yr old gimpy MLB's with a bit of injury history, will be in high demand. I'm ecited and optimistic about the off season. I cant wait for a staff to be named and draft day and free agent signings. Come on 2013!!
I'm just saying that Gruden seems to have an obvious disdain of the Bears. I can't recall how many of my friends and I have said "God Gruden, shut up already about dissing the Bears!"....
Maybe he's just not a huge fan of their current regime? If so and he if he is the offensive genius that you say he is, maybe then his tone will change so that he can get the job done? Maybe the four-letter network hated the Bears and they are the ones telling him to say stupid crap on Bears MNF?
Shit man, we were watching different Monday night games...
I thought Gruden was big on Cutty.
I meant the Bears as a whole, not Cutler.
Not to keep piling on Coach Smith, but here is a nugget from ESPN
Fewest yards per game, since 2004
WHOA, NELLY, Big Mike!
If "Statistics are for losers" you sure dug up a DAMNING set of them.
Any list that inlcudes you with the likes of the Browns, Bills and Raiders over the last decade CANNOT be a good thing.
Lovie is go and that's a good thing? The question is who is the next coach for the Bears?
Andy Reid to the Chicago Bears? - http://bit.ly/TCazps
I think Reid should take a year off. Working 14 straight years for one organization and then to go through the tough time his family has been facing very recently can take a huge toll on a person. Reid would probably help, but I think as of now there's someone better for the Bears.
God save us; Reid is just a fat white Lovie with a mustache.
That comparison is unfair to Lovie.
I think Smith will find work sooner than Reid.
Let's face it, Andy's personal life is an absolute TRAIN WRECK.
What organization is looking to take on THAT kind of baggage?
Well, OK, maybe Da Raidas (he said only half-kidding).
1) The Bears don't hire former Head Coaches. Period.
2) In only year 2 of his stint as GM, Phil Emery AIN'T lookin' for a guy who is in the final glidepath of his career. He's lookin' for someone he can partner with for the long haul and that sure isn't Andy "I would also want all sorts of personnel control" Reid. It's also been reported that the Chargers have hung out the NO WALRUSES ALLOWED sign in San Diego even tho' Reid owns a home in nearby Dana Point.
Oh, Jeebus. I thought you were linking to an actual news piece.
It's your fucking stupid head-up-your-ass blog and your stupid worthless opinion.
(Yes, there's a lot of vitriol spilling through; don't put a blind link and imply it's a news story--you're just trolling traffic for your own blog, and what's worse, you're a fucking idiot
Aaron, consider yourself MOONED.
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Let's stay away from Shanahan. He's been riding his father's coattails (and daddy Shanny is so overrated it has turned his skin permanently orange), and the incident earlier this year with the refs gives some insight as to Kyle's maturity and readiness to be an NFL HC.
For those pointing out the "average" tenure of an NFL HC, remember that "average" ("mean" for us who can count) incorporates the coaches fired early in their terms. Take out the craptacular coaches, and the "average" tenure of decent coaches is much longer... and--what we should aim for--the "average" tenure of good coaches is even longer. Emery isn't looking for a guy who can be a Chicago coach for 5 years; he's looking for a guy who will be in the job for a decade or more. This same guy, we should add, should be able to hit the ground running and produce a winning season next year (let's be honest, a 10-6 team replacing a coach is not expecting a losing season the next year), if not a playoffs berth.
In short, expectations are for a long time in position, with immediate results. Ergo, also-rans need not apply.
This is going to be a big hire.
OK, first breaking news:
The Bears around noon (per somebody's tweet stated on the radio, dunno who), have asked the Broncos for permission to speak with Mike McCoy.
Unless somebody can convince me otherwise, with Peyton's run to a Super Bowl looking pretty damn good right now, I see this guy as the odds-on favorite to get the job. He won alot of admiration for adjusting an offense to win with Tebow, then re-gearing and winning with Manning. He's a very offensive minded coach, and fits with a long standing Bears tradition of hiring up and coming assistants.
Repeat: the Bears organization has NEVER hired a guy who was a HC elsewhere, unless you count the old man and the Staleys.
Next up: The Score will run Emery's Press Conference live at 10am Chicago time tomorrow. The New Year Day's massacre, as it may come to be known, I would not be shocked to hear Emery say he's cleaning house. Maranelli has REPORTEDLY said he's gone. He may get another shot at HC, although at his age I imagine he'll want another DC job with somebody he trusts.
Here is the shortcut to the Score radio:
Things you will want to listen for:
How he answers the question about who made the call. Expect the questions to surround Ginny and her approval.
If Teddy is there, Crane Phillips himself. If he steps over Emery in any way, fields any questions FOR Emery. This will tell you how much of his own man Emery is, and how much latitude he is given.
It may have chapped Teddy's ass that the Chicago Sportswriters regarded Emery has a house boy, and he may go out of his way to step back and allow Emery to appear, at least, as if he has free reign. It's a good idea politically to step the fuck back and allow Emery to be seen as steering the ship. Crane may have actually learned some lessons from the Cubs after all.
Any explicit declaration that Lack is gone. As almost everyone thinks he is. The only question now is, will Lack 'go Butkus' on the Bears and start publicly trashing the team and refuse accolades until he is old, etc etc. Much of that will hinge on Canton voting in the next 10 years or so. Personally, I don't think he makes it but many disagree.
What Lovie himself says. I doubt he will be present tomorrow, and I also doubt he will impair any future career he has in the NFL and say nothing.
I don't buy that Chicken Dinner is for a 3-4. I think we was drafted to play Mike for the Bears. We'll probably know by this spring.
Fuck lovie and I see chicken dinner as the last (poorly chosen) vestige of an incompetent regime driven by the lovemister.
Clean. fucking. house.
Bag ALL of them and start over... hoke, drake, babich, even marinelli... fuck ALL of them! Good fucking riddance to them all. They sucked, and they pissed away many optys to go to and win multiple SBs… we could have with the right coaching.
I’m all in for a holistically new regime… even if it means a few years of rebuilding. Let’s fucking do this!!
Btw, I’m ALL in on a new, young, creative, aggressive HC who’s a badass O guy. Let’s. fucking. Do. This. Boys.
Babich tweeted that he is gone.
More to come, I'm sure.
Fuck you baBITCH. you suck.
While we all may think that the regime blew a lot of chances, there is no way to know whether anyone else would have done better.
That being said, I'm optimistic that improvements are on the way.
But I thought that when Ron Turner was fired.
First I wanted to remind all you guys that my big 40th birthday is in 4 days. I don't say this because I'm looking for innerness love, I'm saying this to remind you motherfuckers who to thank for the angelo AND the lovie firing.
You... my good men and mice, are most fucking welcome.
I'm taking orders for next year now.
Bang! Fucking! Bang!
Bear players are reacting as if they were completely blindsided by this.
What? You guys ENJOY missing the playoffs?
fine by us, Devin.
Fuck. Devin. Hester.
He. is. done.
Well, Devin, your performance as a receiver and, for the last season+ as a returner, are among the reasons Lovie is history.
Based on your track reord while Phil Emery has been GM, I doubt he will be trying to convince you NOT to retire.
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what troubles me more about Hester is that he admitted contemplating retiring 2 years ago...
no wonder he became a pussy - he was just collecting checks for 2 years.
bye-bye Hester. Feel free to take Davis with you.
Considering he had 3 return TD's last year, that's pretty good for just collecting checks. Not to mention he led the league in punt return avg. This year he was very ordinary. He made numerous bad decisions. Early in the year he made some fair catches when he should have returned them. He took so much grief from the fans that he tried to return everything after that. He still averaged 8 yds/punt and 26 yds/kick off this year. Not great, not terrible. His contract calls for $1.8 mil next year. Not a lot of money if he recaptures his mojo.
Why jump Devin's ass?
It's going to be an emotional and uncertain for a lot of guys. The only coaching staff they have known in their professional careers is going to be completely dissolved.
How would *you* react?
As if any further proof of how CLUELESS Sal Palantonio actually is outside of things NFC East was even necessary, he was on Colin Cowherd today talking up Andy Reid as being a real possibility for the Bears' job.
Sal, you ignorant slut.
Classy dude. Is it just me or did Cutler not seemed surprised? Any new coach is going to drool over him.
If Cookie and Carmini had been Jake Long quality Pro Bowl tackles, how different this may have been.
Angelo fucked this organization good.
If Williams had been a good starting LT, JA would still be running the front office, too.
But the bigger problem wasn't that Williams or Carimi were bad picks--they weren't. Consensus was that they were both good, and they showed promise early. Carimi is salvageable, too.
It's that they weren't developed. JA screwed the pooch in the draft many a time, but neither Williams nor Carimi should be counted on his "bust" card. They were solid picks that got fucked by the Bears coaching staff's inability to develop talent.
But we were sold Tice as an offensive line coach genius.
Then, he hated the mad professor and then he got the reigns, and we got this.
Perhaps it was Tice that buried Lovie. Blame for all.
From what I saw of both his jobs here, he may do well to find another line of employment.
I saw how you did that murph.
If Cookie can't crack the starting lineup somewhere in the next couple of years, I think it's safe to say it wasn't all bad coaching.
The Bears never develop offensive players. Not in my lifetime anyway.
Exactly. I can't think of the Bears' line coach off the top of my head.
Misery loves company.
JA took Lovie down with him after all.
Tribune has a poll up about who the next HC should be. They put Josh McDaniels on there--stupid enough--but people voted for him.
Some people shouldn't be allowed computers.
Cutler is the kind of guy to bury the hatchet.
I would LOVE to get him as our OC. Did you see that fucking game against the 9ers.
Guy's a fuckng evil O genius. An asshole, but a creative guy.
He's like a lot of young guys getting their first management job, it goes to their head and they turn into assholes. Belichek failed in his first HC job. I bet McDaniels is a success when he gets his next shot.
maybe murph... but not willing to take that shot with our beloved.
Him and Kiffin occupy the same space in my mind. ASSSSSHOOOOOOLE.
Me either, no way could Cutler and Marshall play for him. Too much bad blood!
Didn't he also give away half of his draft to move up and get Tebow? I may be wrong but I thought that was a McDaniels move.
Pretty sure you are correct, sir.
I think he'll go somewhere where this already a good personnel man. Shorter leash for him to work with will allow him to focus just on coaching. That Denver job was an accident waiting to happen.
But why, Murph? The first thing he did in Denver was get rid of their two biggest studs on offense, and replacing them with ex-Bear re-treads.
Hold up and the what now? You'd be good with Josh McTard as our coach? I'd stop watching football until he was tarred and feathered at Soldier field.
Today calls for a Burma Shave. We know you're up for it, fire away.
My last one was a complete MISFIRE.
Didn't think they'd pull the trigger at 10-6. I bet if Ginny still had any real influence, they wouldn't have so this would seem to be solid evidence that Emery is running the show and maybe there's hope for a quality choice for a new HC.
btw, know what I hate... at the gym today and see a guy wearing bears sweats. I usually keep my hat pulled down low and bust out my workouts cause I'm there to get all on swole not make new fucking friends...
ANYWAY... I walk up and say to the guy... how fucking excited are you. Lovie's gone.
Dude faked it for about 10 seconds like he knew anything about the bears. I ALMOST asked him if he was just borrowing the sweats from his cool friend. Fucking poser.
A Bears fan poseur. We need a name for this...
I like this one.
A Lions fan? You've got to feel sorry them ....
...for them, even.
Well, I keep MY hat pulled down because the few hairs I have left up there either just fall out or turn gray.
But it IS often one of my..let's see...half dozen BEARS caps. One's even a sbap to it that i had REPAIRED because I can't BEAR to toss it !
Albert, the family was very much up for change. They were a bit torn because they really liked Smith on a personal basis. They really want to win another one for Mom before she joins GSH in the hereafter.
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Devin Hester, feel free to bawl...
..but Lovie Smith's been fired.
Best I could do on short notice, GP.
En Fuego, Al. En Fuego.
Muchas Gracias, Compadre, y Prospero Ano Nuevo!
Damn I love the Burma Shaves!
btw, I also wanted to say that while I am 100% ok with being in rebuilding mode for the next few years, I think that's old-model.
I think you can totally blow up an org, and if done right, get right back in the hunt with the core players.
examples you say... colts? Broncos? (and yes, we already... supposedly... have the QB to take us there)
I agree with this... sort of.
I think there are rise and fall eras, and you have teams like the Lions and the Chiefs who will be in the wilderness for years and years with little or no respite due to incompetence within ownership.
Then, you have the ascendant franchises, the Steelers and Pats, the Giants and Packers. They can play at a high level because of depth and insightful management.
Then you have the Chargers and Falcons, and the Bears and Broncos. The middle third. (I put the Vikes in the lower third).
And it's very much in question if they are headed up or down.
Movement between thirds takes half a decade. 5 year blocks. And once there, it's hard to move up. And when on top, it's also hard to stay there and not get complacent.
The NFL is a near perfect metaphor for the American brand Capitalism that it grew up within. It's a mirror to society in many ways, which is why (I think) it is what it is.
No from YOU, MB !!!!
In today's NFL there is NO SUCH THING as "rebuilding mode for the next few years".
Unless, of course, you are the Browns. or The Bills Or Da Raidas.
See Instead: Indianpolis Colts.
1 Crappy year and then right back BACK IN THE HUNT!
I haven't got the time or the patience to sit thru "rebuilding mode for the next few years".
Screw that concept!
Andrew Luck > Jay Cutler.
Out: Lovie Smith (10-6 in 2012, 81-63 overall with Chicago)
What Went Wrong: The Bears collapsed following a 7-1 start this season, and even back-to-back wins in Week 16 and 17 could not save Smith’s job — or get Chicago into the playoffs. As SI’s Don Banks reported in his “Black Monday Primer,” Bears ownership had grown tired of the Bears’ inconsistency so, despite Smith’s Super Bowl trip back in the 2006 season, the franchise will head in another direction.
Injuries certainly did not help this season, with Matt Forte, Brian Urlacher and multiple offensive linemen falling. However, Chicago made an aggressive move last offseason to add Brandon Marshall, believing this team was close to contending for a championship. Missing the playoffs for a second straight season was a breaking point.
Roster outlook: The Chicago Sun-Times recently quoted an NFL executive as saying that the Bears “can do whatever they want” in free agency this coming offseason. They’ll have a ton of cap space — a cushion that could grow if the Bears cut ties with Julius Peppers (saving $8.1 million of the $17.6 million he’s owed in 2013) and restructure Jay Cutler’s contract into an extension.
Brian Urlacher and 2012 Pro Bowler Henry Melton lead the Bears’ list of potential free agents, but Chicago will return a boatload of talent next season and should be able to add to it. The question, as always: Can Chicago upgrade on the offensive line?
Reportedly interviewed/interested in: Mike McCoy
Kinda looks like a badass... like an older GSP
I honestly don't think it's a question of who is #1 on the list, and it doesn't really matter if he gets the Broncos to the Super Bowl or not with Manning.
It's a question of can we get him. He will be in high demand.
I doubt he'd want the Bills; nobody wants the Bills. Or the Chiefs.
Chargers and Eagles will complete, though.
I'm not ready to give the job to McCoy. McCoy could have all the same problems coaching a defense that Lovie Smith had coaching an offense. He could be like Tice, Marinelli and a bunch of other guys around the league - solid coordinator that can't lead a team as HC.
The fact is that Emery will be privy to a lot more than any of us will ever know about these candidates... about their vision for the team, their theory of leadership, their thought on specific players. I will be more impressed if he runs an efficient but broad search for an HC than if he brings in the first guy he meets.
And I still really want Toub to get a chance to interview. He has a lot to offer the team.
We can go only on what we know. Bears have made the first move to request McCoy's time.
I don't get the fascination with making Taub a HC. He's never been a coordinator, so I don't get it.
He's been a coordinator for years. He's just never been on offense or defense.
San Francisco made a special teams coordinator into a head coach and that went okay.
Toub was an offensive lineman in college and briefly in the pros. He was a D-line coordinator early on. Basically he knows how to work in the treches.
I'm not advocating Toub call plays or be the OC himself, just the head coach.
For those who like Norv Turner as an OC. Think about Toub at HC with Marinelli staying as DC and Turner being the OC. That could keep players happy, maintain defensive excellence and put a spark on offense.
Baltimore made a ST coordinator into a HC and has been extremely successful.
The fascination, GPL, is that he has -consistently- turned shit into gold on ST. That means he's doing a phenomenal job of either coaching up marginal talent, spotting great talent with marginal reports, or both.
I think he deserves a shot.
What qualifies Toub to be a top level manager exactly?
Has a little Gruden look to him
There are ALWAYS going to be injuries.
ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS.
The 'Skins lost RG III for a game plus down the stretch. Their backup stepped in and THEY DIDN'T MISS A BEAT!
It was absolutely GALLING to watch Kirk Cousins step in throw for 300 yards in his first start ever while we constantly watch Cutler (and coulteless other Bear QBs) struggle to do that.
Ditto Kaepernick who stands in and then wins the job.
Well, if you needed any more proof that Hester mentally hung it up two years ago, I offer you this:
I guess ESPN got him on the phone. What a tool the kid is. He could have been a great one, the first ST player to make it to Canton. He shit that away with that confession.
I was hoping they would release or trade him anyway, this increases that desire. With Josh Cribbs available I would pursue him, I have always thought he was a better returner than Hester anyway. Hester is good, but I think he benefited from some excellent players surrounding him and Toub drawing up some excellent returns.
Know we know he was just cashing cheques. Thanks for the memories Devin, you're traded.
NOW WHAT MAN NOW WHAT
a very confused bear fan
ya know what i am gonna be sick man, now what man now what i am at a loss for words but it had to be done
Need an OC with a fucking coherent and innovative system to implement and a consistent plan to use the weapons we have in MARSHALL, JEFFREY, BENNETT, CUTLER and FORTE. You have to be a retard not to use the fuck out of these weapons and end up in the middle of the NFL pack...even in your first year.
Enter Michael Tice.
and as for Lovie Smith???
I don't share the enthusiasm that some do over is firing. Lovie is a classy guy and will never point out some of the main reasons and person...ahem....Jerry Angelo, that resulted in fielding 2/3 of a team for years on end.
I think it's a step back but probably a needed step back since you can't get an OC worth a shit with a lameduck HC. The defense wasn't broke so it looks like we're going to fix it any way.
This is going to suck.
FWIW, both Marrinelli and Toub are signed through 2013. At least whoever the new guy turns out to be will have the option of keeping them. Haven't researched the contracts of the position coaches. I don't know, if I were an O-side HC, why re-invent the wheel in areas that are working fine. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Obviously, the offensive side of the ball is where his focus will have to be and leaving those two in place would make that job easier for him. I see that as common sense but what do I know?
We were first in punt coverage and starting position this year. Our defense was generally good, sometimes spectacular. Our offense was 28th in the NFL. Four teams were worse. Fix what is broken.
I need it explained to me how Tice was supposed to turn a bunch of turds into diamonds. Offenses cannot function without good O-lines. Give a crappy OC a great line and he'll do wonders.
If we hire the right guy and we win next year, I'm sure I'll be on board with this regime change.
But damn if I'm not a little bummed. Not so much for Lovie's demise, but for what it might mean to our defensive core players. I've loved watching Peanut, Briggs, Urlacher, Peppers and others on this D for a long time. If their employment is sacrificed in favor of a rebuild, I'll be pissed (though Urlacher's age and condition may make him an exception). I've just really loved watching this defense play at a high level for so many years and will be sad tf it changes. Can Peanut be anything other than a cover 2 corner? I hope so. I'll be really sad if he, in particular, leaves.
But like I said, winning changes everything.
He's proven that Doc, look how hes played one on one against the best receiver of the other team. He's making the pro bowl. He's good and he's smart! He by no means is one dimensional. Good coordinators know how to use proven talents!
230 comments in ten hours. We seriously need our new blog, this one is hard to follow/navigate.
Soon Ender, soon!
April. Right? Isn't that the new time frame?
Yeah i think thats it. Cant happen too soon. This gets tedious real quick.
I think I've wasted a good 10 hours scrolling since the blog switched to this format. This side is beyond bad, but I keep coming back because of the great commentary and all the other interesting stuff.
Yeah, I just remember the 'ol two tone site....The comments were numbered. Genius.
Lovie was probably the 2nd best coach in franchise history. Yes, I'd even put him above Ditka. There's no reason we can't look back on the Lovie era with fond memories. While Da Coach did less with more, Lovie did more with less. While I think Lovie can take a bad team and make it good, Lovie's defense-first philosophy and ignorance of offense will keep him from ever becoming great.
Looking forward I'm glad to see Emery is not only empowered to make bold decisions, but he also has a plan of action. I believe Emery understands how the NFL has shifted towards a flag football mentality, I believe he understands the importance of the HC/QB relationship and I believe Emery will find someone who can help Cutler reach his full potential. Could it backfire? Sure. But I'd rather go for gold rather than settle for silver.
Best of luck Phil.
AND HAPPY NEW YEAR MOTHERFUCKERS!
Above Ditka? Ditka had 6 division wins, and one wild card in 10 years. Seven playoffs in 10 years is much better than Lovies 3 in 9 record. Lovie had a .563 Ditka .631 with the Bears........Rethink that statement Shady! hahaha
Ditka is ludicrously overrated by Bears fans.
Wow ... I'll have 1. Halas 2. Ditka. If it wasn't for Buddy Ryan's ego in Miami, we might have done what no-one has done.
If it wasn't for Buddy Ryan (and Jim Finks) the Bears wouldn't have done what no-one has done. How'd Da coach fare after he left Chicago? Right now Lovie has a higher win % and my guess is he won't trade an entire draft class for a RB in a wedding dress.
That idiot Banks threw Tom Cable's name into the mix.
For the record...FUCK no.
I second that fuck no!
Fuck no. But maybe.
I'm a little worried about Marinelli's future. I think you guys mentioned that Lovie gave him some lee-way in incorporating a hybrid defense for some snaps. just goes to show that he is capable of adjusting and some of the players are too. Anywho, Da Bears! This off season should be exciting.....
Alas, boys & girls, firing Lovie was the EASY part of this equation.
Picking head coaches is even MORE dicey than drafting players.
If you shake a tree, a DOZEN or so Abe Gibrons, Dave Wannstedts, Neil Armstrongs and Dick Jaurons fall out of it for every Bill Walsh or Jimmy Johnson.
And remember, before Bill Belichick was crowned a "Genius" in New England, he was known as an ABJECT FAILURE (Bill Belichoke) in Cleveland where in 5 seasons he was 36 & 44 with ONE winning season and ONE playoff appearance. NOT co-incidentally, he did not have Tom Brady throwing the ball for him in Cleveland.
George Seifert won 2 Super Bowls in San Fran.
Unfortunately, he couldn't take Steve Young and Jerry Ricce along with him when he went to Carolina where he compiled a very pedestrian 37-55 record, including a 1-15 swan song.
As I frequently say,
CAVEAT EMPTOR !
No kidding, Al. Everyone seems so excited to dump Lovie. The only thing Emery has done on his watch that was positive was the Brandon Marshall trade. His draft was ho-hum at best. I'm not saying he can't get this hire right, I'm saying I have no idea if he will. He hasn't shown me much so far. Other than he can keep a secret like a sumbitch.
I think he's made some other solid moves, and this is something that will be discussed during the off-season. But his big successes were:
1) Drafting Jeffery - solid year for a WR. Show me another rookie who did better.
2) Trading for Marshall - as discussed.
3) Bringing in Bush as our #2 RB. Tice didn't use him to maximal value, but Bush proved himself a solid second running back.
4) Blake Costanzo - tremendous special teams contributor.
5) Forte contract was reasonable. It was a painful off-season, but Emery set the tone that the team will not overspend. We are building a talented team of players and we will not sell out for one guy.
Now the big challenges this year will be:
1) Hiring a head coach. This might include the rest of the coaching staff depending on who the top guy is.
2) Short-handed draft. Right now he only has 5 picks, let's see what he can do.
3) Melton contract. Melton is our franchise tag candidate this year. Let's hope we get another reasonable deal as with Forte, hopefully with less uproar.
4) Cutler contract - I suspect this will not happen before the 2013 season starts, but we'll see. The Bears likely will not want to back themselves into a corner if Cutler doesn't get along with the new coach.
5) O-line. Emery ignored the O-line last year. He cannot do so again.
I like Jeffery but his stats aren't exactly all-world 24 recs, 367 yds, 15.3 avg with 3 TD's. I liked the Bush signing but that and Campbell were just a matter of enough money. Costanzo- even JA signed good ST's players. Good job on Forte contract. Totally agree on the challenges. I'm not down on Emery. I just haven't seen enough good things to give me a warm fuzzy. Hope he comes through.
I would have had even more respect if he'd traded Forte away and we'd gone with a Doug Martin. There's a lot of money missing on that O-line, or misplaced. No point in having two backs like Forte and Bush if you can't block for them. No point in having Marshall or Cutler ... it all stems from the foundations of the line.
4ever85. Check out this link http://blog.fantasypostseason.com/2011/02/3-ways-to-setup-playoff-fantasy-leagues.html
I don't have time to figure this stuff out. But if you do, I'm in.
And now, a final word from our sposnor for 2012 (which it STILL is in his timezone).
Another Bears football season...
...with no playoff game to cheer,
but that certainly is no reason...
..not to wish all a HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Oh boy. Midnight in the Moutain Timezone.
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get behind the wheel.
Wise words, my friend. I was lucky to never hurt anyone from all my foolish drinking and driving.
That ain't no lie....we had a good bunch of cops in our town and if you didn't step over the line too far, they were cool. Tell them to fuck off...ooopsie for a long, long time.
Big changes afoot with the Bears..gonna be real interesting to watch what unfolds...guess Lovie got a bunch of interviews lined up already..and some players not happy, could be gone too.
A Canadian who drinks? Go figure, eh!
I can't remember if I hurt anyone from all my foolish drinking, except for a few. Thousands of blackouts of which you have no memory. Scary stuff.
No one can tell me Jekyll and Hyde wasn't about the demon alcohol.
Bengals upset Texans. The Natti is on a run, Texans are not. The Natti is this year's Warner Cardinals, who woulda thought? It's always that way.
Ravens get it done with Ray Rice.
Vikes piss on the Yellow and Green, and it's a beautiful thing.
Seahawks in a wild game of Bob Marley vs. Kumar.
Natti goes to New England and the Pats end the run in a snowstorm.
Broncos chew the Ravens evermore.
Vikes get ended at the Niners
Seahawks go into Atlanta and upset there again, Falcons stadium renamed The Choker.
Pats vs. Broncos. Brady vs. Manning. Sky high TV ratings. Brady wins, Denver calls for Tebow back.
Seahawks beat the Niners in a brutal, brutal game at Candlestick, limp into the Super Bowl.
Pats take care of business, Bellicheat triumphant again.
Love the Marley vs Kumar line.
Check out Hesters quote, hopefully he has talked his way out of town.
“I mean the media, the false fans, you all got what you all wanted,” said wide receiver Devin Hester. “The majority of you all wanted him out. Players as players, we wanted him in. I guess the fans -- the false fans -- out-ruled us...
“I thought he was a great coach, probably one of the best coaches I’ve ever been around. He brought me in...I’m going to go home and get away from football right now. I don’t even know if I want to play again, man. It’s [been] on my mind now for two years now.”
False fans? What a stinkin piece of shit!
Lay off, Murph. He's just a simple guy who runs fast.
His work-world daddy just got run out of town and he's upset. Granted, he should probably know enough to keep his mouth shut, but see above.
Personally I don't understand all the jubilation over firing Lovie. While I think it was necessary, its very rare for me to be happy over someone losing his/her job. Outside of Washington D.C. anyway.
You can be happpy SC, Lovie will be paid millions over the next year if he chooses to take a lil time off. Not like he's gonna have to shut the cable TV off.
Queue up the film of Lovie saying, in his intro press conference, that the most important thing in Chicago is beating the Packers.
He couldn't do it. End of discussion, Devin.
Maybe you're right, Murph. Sometimes I think I must have been a puritan or something in a past life. :)
If you're not already, you really should be listening to Emery's presser. I'm extremely impressed:
I think all this player kvetching we are hearing is a very good thing.
This team was soft, it had too many made men on it. Guys who knew they were safe.
I remember the story about all the money Lovie authorized to put these world class saunas and facilities in, about how Halas Hall was perhaps the nicest facility in the NFL.
It was a gravy train, and now it's over. Cry us a river.
Emery saying he won't hold all draft power, he WANTS to share it with the Head Coach.
Biggsy has the breakdown of all the touchpoints
Most clearly, Crane Phillips is not in the building. This is the Emery show.
I'm still not convinced Emery isn't a house boy. But perhaps Crane and George need his football smarts to appear competent.
Cutler signaling that he welcomes change.
Biggsy's bacon fed butt gets to the podium first after it's over and whispers a question to Emery. Biggsy is the Fridge Perry of reporters, he can move his feet.
Peter 'Fuckwad' King thinks Chucky is coming here.
I liked the way Emery explained how he became a better evaluator of talent and more analytical on the mall things of the team by facing a lot of tough situations to eventually turn some organizations around. Hopefully, we can find a guy to his liking and continue improving and maintaining a "level of excellence" for many years to come! Space Mountain!
Btw, The Johnathan Scott pick-up looks to be a great addition for this team. He played pretty well in hi 6 games and made some athletic plays to save or keep some drives going. Emery made an evaluation regarding the line and its correlation with the draft and FA that makes sense.
The bottom line is that a Head Coach in today's NFL needs to come from the offensive side of the ball. The league wants points. The rules are weighted in favor of offenses and to win you need to score. Lovie would be a great coach for the old 'Black and Blue' division. That league doesn't exist anymore. He will make a great DC... again. Good luck Lovie, a class act.
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