Green Bay Packers at Chicago Bears Game Preview

Green Bay Packers at Chicago Bears Game Preview

If the Packers were playing well - and they are certainly not - I don't know if I could conceivably pick the Bears this week. Even as it is now, I'm about at the bottom of the confidence drain. Nevertheless...

Why Do I Like the Chicago Bears This Week?

  • I always like the Chicago Bears.
  • The only non-football reason I can conceive is the Bears approach this game with a "nobody believes in us" mentality. The coach is being fired in the media. The players are being called decrepit. Is this the kind of game wherein a back-to-the-wall Bears deliver an inspired effort? Or do they go gentle into that good night?

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On the Emotional Evolution of Packer Week.

Brett Favre killed the Packer Week of the modern era. Or at least he attempted to kill it. For the last two decades it was very easy to understand the emotional relationship between the Chicago Bears and the other teams in the NFC North. (For the sake of brevity, we'll leave the Tampa Bay Bucs out of this discussion since the NFL decided Tampa, Florida was neither in the "central" part of the nation nor the "north".)

The Lions were not worth any consideration. Sure, it was difficult watching Wannstedt's boys attempt to tackle Barry Sanders and thrilling to see Paul Edinger kick the Wayne Fontes team out of the postseason in 2000. But, especially in modern times, the futility of the Matt Millen Lions was more endearing than anything else.

The Denny Green Vikings were a pain in the ass, especially with Culpepper, Moss, Carter, Robert Smith...etc. They were an offensive juggernaut. But there was never anything hate-inducing about them. The were inoffensively challenging and the Bears tended to play them pretty well.

The Packers have always been hated. In the blood. In the cradle. On the big yellow school bus and the small white one escorting folks to their medical appointments. And never more so than when Brett Favre was under center for the cheese. His grotesque on-field attitude, overblown media persona and sheer dominance at Soldier Field made him archenemy number one to a football fan base and the majority of a city.

Then he went to Minnesota. Myself and many other Bears fans found their abject rage shifted from the green and gold to the purple folks out west. I still disliked the Packers, of course, but I'd spent so many years thinking the Packers were #4 that I could not let that notion go. So I didn't.

While the Lions have become a despicable unit, the Packers have returned to the top of the NFC North food chain and become once again the focus of my disdain. It's because I don't like their quarterback. It's because I don't like their coach. But primarily it's because Brett Favre has finally faded from memory.

Goodbye, Brett.  Welcome back the true spirit of Packer Week.

Analysis of the Actual Game

  • All eyes will be on Olindo Mare as he replaces one of the NFL's all time great kickers. The Bears will not be able to stall drives at the forty and kick long field goals. Mare's range is inside 45. Nothing longer.
  • I expect the Packers to follow the trend of recent Bears opponents and give them a steady diet of the run game. Alex Green and Ryan Grant will be given an opportunity to run away from Lance Briggs, especially in the first quarter. If the Bears can't contain the run and let their safeties stay high, they'll lose.
  • With Craig Steltz on IR, the Bears need to keep their safeties on the field.
  • I expect nothing from Kellen Davis and Devin Hester on offense. I'm not insane. I do think the Bears will Jay Cutler look to Alshon Jeffery early and often.
  • I expect Dom Capers to actually scheme Brandon Marshall out of this game and I expect Jay Cutler not to care. It should result in 7-10 catches. 80-100 yards. 1 touchdown. 1-2 interceptions.
  • The Lions didn't necessarily dominate the Packers with the run game but they controlled the line of scrimmage most of the evening. The Bears need to do the same. This should be a 25-35 carry afternoon for Matt Forte. Forte has yet to have a signature performance in 2012 and looked ready to burst out against Minnesota. Is Sunday his game to win?
  • We know EXACTLY how the Packers want to attack the Bears. Stretch runs. Quick throws over the middle to slot receivers and tight ends. Shots down the sideline to players like Cobb. How do the Bears stop it?

Why This Game is Entirely About Pass Rush

The Bears have suffered injuries this year but Julius Peppers, Izzy Idonije, Shea McClellin, Corey Wootton and most of the interior defensive line will be healthy and active Sunday. If these fellas don't pressure Rodgers and allow him a safe pocket, they will be torched. And if they can't exploit the weaknesses along this Packers offensive line, this unit may need to be seriously evaluated at season's end.

Some Folks Are Depressed By the Bears. Watch.


  • Thrive: It is time for Charles Tillman to have another brilliant game. I can't imagine a scenario where the Bears line up Kelvin Hayden or a hobbled Tim Jennings on Randall Cobb and Cobb has become Aaron Rodgers' number one target by a wide margin. It'll be on Peanut to shut him down.
  • Survive: Who else? Lovie Smith. This is the most important regular season game the Bears have played since the 2008 finale against the Houston Texans. That day, with the playoffs on the line, the Bears were an embarrassing no show. Another performance such as that and Lovie's club will no longer have destiny in their own hands for the 2012 campaign. And Lovie may be captaining a sinking ship.


Dogfight. Close to the end. And in a surprise moment for the 2012 season, Olindo Mare wins it with a field goal. A win Sunday saves the Bears the season.

Chicago Bears 20, Green Bay Packers 17


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  • First (?)

    I sure hope you're right. My two boys are going.

  • In reply to BillW:


    My nemesis! How could you take first from me like this? Your first comment should have been an open letter apology to Number 1 receivers everywhere.

    i keed.

  • I had to laugh johnny. Poetic justice/karma.


  • In reply to BillW:

    Hey, what section are they going to be in, Bill? We'll be in 349 and Corm will be in 350.

  • First to say.....F U we're about the beat the Packers and run the table.
    Cutlers finest hour.
    20-17 sounds about right.

  • MB, Doc - let me know when you guys get in.

  • 9:00pm Friday my man. I assume we all only have carry-on so Limo to the hotel... and we should be there 9:45ish latest.

    Get online tonight and I'll give you my cell... along with a... SMAW TO THE FACE!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    will do. I can't hang Friday night but Sat afternoon into the night looks promising and maybe even sunday morning for booze breakfast. I've got the money for the ticket I need to scalp in my hands so I have to decide if I am going to the game or watching it in the comfort of my mancave or at a bar with my old crew on the northside.


    Rodgers Dead.

  • All I've got on this one is destiny... proven by Johnny's last-minute inclusion in the weekend's festivities... because other than pure and simple destiny, we got nothing left but a string of broken bodies in street cloths and terrible play calling.

    If we win this game, I will entertain all offers to be flown in for every home game from here on out.

  • If Ginny cares about anything, other than vaseline, it's beating the Packers. Ginny hates that the organization up north has outclassed us in nearly every respect for the last 20 years. Better drafts, better coaching, winning records, Super Bowls. All of it.

    I cannot see a scenario where a team starts 8-1 and ends up 9-6 and Lovie isn't held to account on that. The Seahawks game was winnable as was this last game in Minnesota.

    Love can claim injuries, but he's the one who had a great deal of say-so in picking these players. We can perhaps lay this season on Glitchy one last time, a last ditch effort for Lovie to pull a speech in the mud:

    But I gotta think if we get embarassed at home - again - it's Lovie's head.

    If the players love Lovie as much as they say they do - then perhaps reason enough to put up an inspired effort.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    It's funny you say that GP. I really think if we get smashed at home.. you are right.

  • One more time with feeling..

    Before this season started, I wasn't thinking about how far the defense was going to carry the team. This season was never going to come down to how well the defense would play. This season was always going to come down to how far can Cutler carry his team.

  • @StateStSports
    Greenbay is celebrating Aaron Rodgers day today. We are celebrating Caleb Hanie day. Everyone gets case of beer and QB instructional video

  • what the shit was that video? i watched the whole frackin thing and saw no bear nothing nowhere.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    I could take about 15 seconds before I turned it off in disgust. There is something so fucking creepy about travolta. Dude makes my skin crawl.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's weird how his hair looks like black astroturf and his skin is rubbery and white-blue, it's like he's a 1st generation Terminator before they got it to look more lifelike.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Every time I see Travolta, I'm reminded of one of the first porno movies I saw. It was based at a girls camp. There was this one scene, where this one ho, finds a teeny bopper magazine featuring a one John Travolta. It was probably an early 80's/late 70's film. The "actress" proceeds to open up to John's picture, sit her giant bush on his big goofy smile, and bang herself into oblivion.

    Can't think of Travolta without that image haunting me.

  • eeeeeewwwww

  • gives new meaning to "up your nose with a rubber hose"

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's being in the closet for so long. Poor Johnboy. And married to such a pretty woman. Preston getting them out for the lads in 'Mischief' was one of the seminal (ahem) moments of the Eighties for me. Like seeing Helen Mirren's muff in 'Cal' for a split second. Or seeing Jenny agutter's nips in Logan's Run (admittedly a seventies movie .... but we would have wanked off to it in the Eighties ...which brings in Savage Messiah 1972 where Dame Helen walks down a marble staircase in the Barry Rude) ...


    Sorry ....

  • In reply to evantonio:

    Travolta likes 'em big and hairy, that makes him a bear lover, and that vid is just bad enough to be the best John/John duet ever.

  • Hope you're right Jeff. Unfortunately I just can't see it. Unless Forte goes off (he might, he looked pretty good last week) we're fucked. The Fudgies have Cutler's number. He plays like dog shit every time we face them. Our OL is laughable. Our starting TE is probably the 75th best TE in the NFL (I'm being generous). Still no word on Earl. Melton, Paea and Chicken Dinner are banged up. Geno Hayes is not starting material. Jennings being out is a killer. Our ST's are down numerous players due to injuries.

    Don't get me wrong, I'll be pulling for the Beloved but I just don't see a W. Hope I'm completely wrong.

    On a positive note, I hope you guys have an epic weekend full of laughs, booze, women, weed and enough fun to land you this close to the Cook County Jail. Have one of everything for me and I expect a full report!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    will do canada. thanks maings.

  • If you want something emotional to beat the Packers, you'll need someone on Walter Payton's level to die tomorrow. Not that I am wishing that on anyone.

  • In reply to jack:

    Ditka is primed to croak. Maybe he could help you out and fake his death and hit the Bahamas.

    I doubt that would motivate Peppers to play better though.

  • I recommend, for this group, Mother's.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Wow... $5 for a 24 oz can of PBR is considered a special?

  • As I said the other day, I got a weird feeling that them Bears are gonna pull off something sweet on Sunday. I've felt that way ever since they beat us up in week 2, feels like a split year to me.

    As for Cutler, he seems the worst against them at night.

    As for their Defense, they seem to play their best ball against our Bears, I think quite a bit of luck is involved and that changes Sunday.

    They essentially won the last game on a gimmick ST play in THEIR house.

    They don't shut down Marshall twice this year, fuck Capers, he's way over-rated. And fuck his glorious comb-over.

    Their QB is neither Cam, Colin, or Russell.(I know it's fucking Rodgers whose the best QB ever,ever- just not against us.)

    Their RB is not AP.

    I'm feelin the dubya. Or we lose, whatever, just can't fight this feeling anymore...

  • In reply to ben in norcal:

    Good Point, REO Speedwagon.

  • In reply to ben in norcal:

    The Zen of the Bears versus Packers.

    We have their number on offense - when Urlacher is there. No Urlacher ... fuck that.

    They have our offense by the balls. Marshall will get removed, we don't have another weapon that's fit, so Jay will throw about four interceptions if he decides to target Marshall regardless of the coverage, throwing off his back foot, rolling the wrong way.

    Matthews (the fuck) + J'Marcus Useless = Cutler dead.

    As always, we'll need to win the momentum battles and be favored by the penalty/fumble recovery gods. At least we won't be settling for FGs .....

    .... but who's gonna drive you home ...... to-nite ?

  • I cannot think of another game this season that is more of a "MUST WIN" than this one. Perhaps not for any other reason than it's the packers.

    DO IT BEARS...If not for the fans that love you, then for you honor and pride as players for one of the greatest football teams to ever play the game. For Papa, For Walter, For Nagurski...

    "Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival."
    -Winston Churchill

  • In reply to Bears-4-Ever:

    Survived pretty well after you got your arse kicked in Tobruk, Winston.

  • Wavell was in command of the mideast, was he not?

  • happy merry christahanukakwanza

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    you're welcome.

  • weather report for Chicago ill.

    Sunday... SNOW SHOWERS!!!!


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Packers had that Sunday Night vs. Lions. Maybe they had a slow start, but they figured it out.

    The game is NOT against Tampa Bay.

  • In reply to jack:

    I was giving it not because of the silly myth of 'bears weather' jack, but because I'll be at the game and snow, in december, at soldier field, against the packers... is my dream scenario.


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yep, although I'm trying to figure out what the hell to pack in the caryron and what to layer on for the flight.

    Ah well, I got upgraded today, so at least I won't be sweating my ass off in coach.

  • In reply to jack:

    Good thing too. Tampa and Dallas Clark would kick the shit out of us.

  • I apologize for the length of this post. After all the very graphic insults I think I deserve the time to defend myself.

    First – as I stated – I’ve been a Bear fan my whole life; I actually remember my dad and uncle trying to teach me the fight song when I was very little. I’m 60 now; went to games with them at Wrigley; season tickets with a friend in the mid seventies; on my own since Wanny; original PSL holder with my name on the board in the new Soldier Field – which I have a picture of and proudly show people.

    That doesn’t make my opinions anymore valid. I say all this to show that I am not a “Hater”; nor am I an asshole / douchebag / idiot.

    What I am however is very analytical with a background in math/statistics. I work as a risk analyst for a major company in downtown Chicago.

    So I look for cause/effect in numbers. I when I see things that seem inconsistent I not only ask why but try to really find out. Brandon Marshall is the best receiver the Bears ever had; perhaps the best receiver in the league right now. And yet the Bears can’t beat good teams and that seems to be the consensus reason they are not thought of as serious contenders even if they make the playoffs.

    Why? One reason is the offense on their own does not score very much. Despite having the best receiver in the league, they rank near the bottom in passing offense. Given that, Marshal’s numbers seemed to indicate that was a possible indicator of the underlying issue. Just like Petersen now and Payton before him, monster numbers from an offensive player rarely translate to TEAM success. Instead, it’s (usually) an indication of an underlying problem.

    Marshall has those numbers for two reasons – he’s great and he’s all the Bears have. Many of his catches should be going to other receivers – especially lacking is a reliable TE. So the YPC struck me that Marshall is being asked to be a hybrid of three roles – deep threat, possession receiver, and TE. For example, his YPC is close to Greg Olsen’s. If we had Greg Olsen then Marshall would have less catches and yards but I suspect his YPC would be higher. That's what made me say "possession receiver". Not being derogatory to Marshall, but to the Bears offense.

    It's "so Bears" to have the best player at an offensive skill position and still have a crappy offense.

    I’m not saying 13 YPC is bad. I’m certainly not saying Marshall needs to do more. The numbers struck me as an indicator of the Bears offensive problems. I still hold that is true – not that Marshall is the problem.

    I want my two (adult) sons – avid Bears fans – to experience what I did in 1985. It’s why I’m so impatient when I see issues the Bears have and listen to people (like Pompei this morning on the Score) argue for keeping Lovie when to me it’s been intuitive for years that he can’t get them to the next level.

    This is the only site I’ve found with true passionate fans and limited trolls. So I’ll keep coming here and will still post from time to time. But this was a rough experience.

  • In reply to BillW:

    bill, stop. You did fine. A bunch of us agreed with your basic post.

    Johnny is just fired up right now. we're all hoping for the best while expecting the worst. The lovie era has been very frustrating for all bears fans. Just good enough to keep his gig, while never being good enough.

  • In reply to BillW:

    To hang here takes thick skin. There are trolls, fake posters, sock puppet accounts, guys who call you out personally despite not knowing anything about who you are. A couple of posters here are lawyers, who make a living being douchebags who get under your skin and throw you off your game.

    Just put a few of them on their ass, and you will be fine. Bringing math to the table definitely helps.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    aren't.. you.... a .... lawyer.... gp?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No. I work in the financial industry. Lawyers are the dogs of war here.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And, as for your argument, I think it's simpler than you make it out to be.

    The opposition is going to triangle Marshall's side with zone every time. Marshall's side will draw the OLB out nearly every time, until we can prove that we can block down the end and run to that side. The corner will play press, and they will bring a safety to come over the top on Marshall every play. Every single play.

    If you have Jeffery out there, the 2nd safety has to play COver 1 high or center field, because Jeffery can get past bump coverage in a way that Hester can't and he's a threat to out jump the corner so you must have the 2nd safety out there to threaten him with a killshot if he goes up.

    This SHOULD leave Kellen Davis matched up on a LB every time. And that's what we see.

    The problem is, Davis drops open catches when he beats his LB about 75% of the time. It's no use. He's worthless. For some reason, Spaeth can't get open reliably.

    Tice got so frustrated with Davis in the Vikings game, he actually benched him and we saw several plays in the 4th Q with Spaeth and Adams. Adams seems no better at knowing what he should do, and we need Adams to back up ERod at FB, so I think we're afraid to just go ahead and permanently bench Davis.

    Cutler is so desperate to take advantage of the double team that Marshall is drawing that we've seen Forte line up in the slot. Hester is useless. So chicken shit to get hit, he has butterfingers.

    So, I'd like to see more 3-wide with Marshall, Forte and Jeffery. With Bush in the backfield.

    The Rams did it with Faulk for awhile. Just need guys with guts. If Bennett gets over his head shot, he may not want the slot back so fast. It's a nasty place to make a living. We need somebody in there or a TE that can make the seam catch.

    Once we start making that play - everything will change. The Mike will stop crowding the line and start playing 5 yards off. We can run with Bush if we only had guards who could move their feet and make the seal block. The playbook gets wide open.

    Without that - they will just box and triangle Marshall all day long. Part of why you see Marshall running all these crossing routes is to try and make the D pay for the triangle on him. You really foul shit up and make defenders have to run into each other, if you assigned the high safety to just shadow Marshall everywhere and he drags you across the field.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That was simpler? Reminds me of the Madden commercial where he draws all the lines and circles and says "you got all this?"

    I do get it - if we had a consistency in the second and third receiver slot and TE it would be much different.

    I lineup of Marshall, Jeffrey, Bennett and an Olsen-like TE would put the Bears Offense in the top ten. Even WITH the line they have now.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That's the problem. No one else is stepping up. Even Cutler came as close to calling players out as he ever will by saying, "Other guys have to step up."

    KD, Hester are unreliable. Bennett seems always injured. Sanzen, who the hell knows? I don't know why they don't give Weems a shot. That's part of the reason they promoted Joe Anderson from the practice squad.

    One would also think that with the safeties playing over the top that the run game would benefit, but it hasn't because our Oline can't get any push up the middle, and the Pack knowing this play their LBs wide in contain/blitz.

    The Packers are gonna make the Bears beat them with Forte or some other WR not named Marshall, and that makes me nervous, to say the least.

  • The drafted Rodriguez. Why not try him in the slot?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    i'd love to see him line up in the backfield like Forte and motion into the slot to be matched up with a LB. However, I'd rather see Forte used like that first. Fucking Tice.

  • In reply to BillW:

    Yeah. I got your meaning the moment you said it. Johnny is a bit PTSD right now from reading all the people who go so crazy about J Cut or whomever the minute things go wrong. I feel Johnny's pain, but I'm of the opinion that he misinterpreted and overreacted to your comments.

  • Doc, I'm of the opinion that you will now take sick highschool grade whiskey shots, that I provide to you, until you vomit on MB.

  • Aint happenin. Can't even smell whiskey since my bachelor party.

    Let's not be giving ol' doc alcohol poisoning this weekend. Pretty please.

  • that's def not the goal or the plan. can't throw solid game drunk.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I keed. I'm not 18 so I don't drink cheap booze unless it's free and i'm at a bbq at someone else's place.

    Doc, I will leave you alone and will seek only to abuse myself in your stead.

    MB, if you fly in to Chicago and proceed to focus solely on trying to bang slutballs I'll be highly disappointed. I know you won't let me down.

  • Alcohol is the ruiner of all things good.



  • That sounds like a quote from a wise man that ruined something or multiple things good with alcohol once.

  • In reply to BillW:

    YPC is the most irrelevant statistic in sports. Devery Henderson is a better receiver than Wes Welker because he occasionally catches the endpoint of a rainbow? YAC is what it's all about. I know Olsen's was either 0.9 or 2.9 yards ... either way, when he caught the ball he fell over. Marshall is consistently up there around the top in YAC.

  • Bill, you were hit with "worst post of the year" nominations from me, not "war criminal of the year". Your current explanations are clearer and concise.......your post that was the source of the issue was not. It was a troll-esque response to a genuinely positive reaction by Artoo that we have a true number 1. That is why you received the hammer.

    If you simply look at Marshall's numbers you will notice that this is how Marshall is an everything guy. He get's the entire route tree and plays every position because he is one the few that can and it causes matchup problems and he's done it that way every year he's been in the league. He would be wasted if he was stuck on the edge the whole time. That's not the extent of his game. This has nothing to do with the Bears offense. He has not been reduced to a possession receiver. He is however too much the majority of the offense and nothing more when it comes to the drawbacks. And even then, it took 3 dropped TD's to guys not named Marshall for us to lose those games in which he was the main target and the main source of offense. Go figure.

    You may hate the Bears offensive strategy and lack of weapons like i do but he is not being used as a possession receiver. A possession receiver cannot break tackles, go deep, take the team on his back, win jump balls etc. Also, he was the main target because our number 1 draft pick WR and possibly one of the best WR's in the draft has been out the majority of the year. It was to be the year of Marshall and Mini Marshall. When he got hurt we had the same run of the mill replacements who used to be the run of the mill starters and inexplicable backups like Dane Sanzenbacher. Enter Marshall. Enter the #1.

    I may have overreacted to your post which I found horrible. I see merit in some of your explanations that came after the first shitty post and after your 2nd post which was equally bad as the first which you can admit. They did not have any insight or explanation, you just came off like an asshole...which is probably why you were called an asshole. I'm sure you are a good guy. If you led with the value post instead of the troll response I wouldn't have acted like a dick to you. For acting like a dick I apologize. I could have made my point just as clear without the extra hot sauce.

  • Peace.
    And I hope to hear several "Green Bay Sucks" chants that are so loud the announcers have to acknowledge them.

    Interesting quick stats I worked up:
    Take away 3 TE-like catches of 10 yards each game and Marshall's YPC is 15.

    Now take the average number of completions per game for GB, NYG, Den, NE (unscientific as that may be) and you get about 23.
    Intersting - you get about the same number of FDs per game.

    For the Bears, it's 18 completions and 18 FDs per game.

    So - lets not get too greedy but say that a true TE is worth 3 more FDs a game that translates to 3 more completions. And say all those go to Marshall (at his now 15 YPC) that brings him back to 101 completions but now over 1500 yards. And the Bears passing offense now has 45 more yards a game, ranking them about 15 in passing instead of the current 27.

    A lot of "ifs" and assumptions granted but I have to believe teams have Billy Beane-types to do that kind of thing. Of course the coaches should intuitively know it.

    So the number one problem in my mind is the lack of a reliable tight end. Which we had and let go. Which ultimately I blame on Lovie.

  • In reply to BillW:

    I'll be the first to admit that I was dead wrong about KD. I truly thought he was going to bring in 35-45 catches this year and make an impact. He has certainly made an impact but the kind that is smeared with dog poop.

    I hope the Bears were watching the Pats game. It's time to motion Forte out of the backfield into the slot, get him matched up with a linebacker and cover up for the lack of TE. Patterns like that would have broken the Texans, who were content to let the entire middle of the field underneath wide open.

    GP nailed it with Forte in my opinion. It was the part about Martz I liked. He had planned routes for Forte.

    Is it time for the Rookie E-ROD?

  • you yelled at me about KD because of the "grenade" he caught in the Carolina game. that hurt.

    isn't E-Rod a fullback? isn't that why we got rid of Clutts, because we had E-Rod? on a related note, I wonder how much of Forte's diminished running prowess this year is due to the loss of TC.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    KD drives me crazy because I know he can catch, he has to be hurt. No one has that big of a drop off. He went from snagging lasers for TD's to dropping everything.

    Clutts was the man and opened many holes. Losing him hurt alot.

    I tried to look back where i yelled at you but couldn't find it. If I did, I am sorry.

  • it's all good. i think you were cutler's fleshy arm cannon or something at the time. you were blinded by davis' size and "Athleticism."

  • I thought Kellen would fulfil his promise too. Wrong as fuck. If we don't have TEs then don't use them. Lost f E-rod and Bush running people over instead. Screw the playoffs, let's see some good football.

  • Do you categorize Earl Bennett as a "possession receiver"?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Kind of, if that makes any sense.

    Earl is an enigma to alot of people. He is not big but certainly not small. He is not super fast but is certainly not average. He has amazing hands but can also break tackles, return punts and doesn't go down easy. He moves the chains consistently. He knows how to get open and makes tough catches.

    He is just an overall solid receiver that I'm glad is on the Bears. I don't think there is such thing as a "possession receiver" anymore in this league.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    If Tice had half of a brain he'd throw short routes to Bennett on first down, and not just short vertical routes that get him blown the fuck up. Just shorter routes, in and out, short crosses underneath after the LB"s have vacated, etc.

    I can't believe how much money some of these coaches make to leave such low hanging fruit out there. We could easily get 3-6 yards on first down going to Bennett occasionally. I don't want to see Hester on a screen, I want Bennett. I don't want to see Hester or Bennett on slants, though I trust Bennett way more than Hester.

  • Bill, there is no finer place for Bears fans to hang out than here. We are glad you are here. We also have lawyers on this list who are not douchbags. Just be passionate and everything will settle out.

  • So, I did NOT know this until today:

    After the Viking game, since the weather was shit and the Bears were stuck in the locker room for a bit anyhow, Emery shoo'ed the press out of the area, closed the locker room and addressed the team directly.

    Not Lovie. Emery.

    How I would have loved to hear that.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    You have no idea how happy hearing that has made me. I thought / hoped he was silently steaming.

    Maybe this was just a "rah-rah, go get 'em next time" BS talk. But I doubt it.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That makes me very enthused for the level of effort we'll see this week.

    Oh, and Okoye is back.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That's the best news I heard since Marshall got on board.

    Like I said about Emery, I have a feeling he's one of those "talk quietly but carry a big stick" sorta bosses.

    I now think this Packer game will determine Lovie's future, and Lovie if nothing else, is an opportunist and self-preservationist, so we'll prob see a very pumped up Bears. Unfortunately, stupid can't get fixed in 7 days.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Because Lovie wouldn't know what to say. Nothing has worked for ten years. He hasn't even noticed Daryl Drake is still here.

    "It's two thirty in the afternoon ... we'll take it from there ... that guy over there is our quarterback .... there's four quarters in a game ... and it's two thirty ..... yada yada yada ...."

  • Daryl Drake has not exactly coached up any WR of which I'm aware. A competent coach would have made more of Hester; Devin *supposedly* has great hands and we know he has (or at least had) elusiveness and speed.

    I say get Drake the hell away from Alshon Jeffrey before its too late!

  • I know we don't want to address these questions yet, kind of like Fox News doesn't want to talk about gun control after a shooting, but this is something I think warrants discussion:

    If you are Emery, do you pick up Pep's last year? If you do, you pay out $13M for a guy who, so far, has brought you 2 sacks and turns 33 and clearly isn't the Carolina beast anymore, although still serviceable, esp. against the run.

    Is last year's 4-year, $16M deal for Bennett shaping up to be another Glitchy albatross?

    Are you going to build this team to keep Cutler or discard him?

    Cutting Urlacher is no longer a question. The NFL will not abide sentimentality for a player who I think, was very good but not great and (this is my opinion and I'm sure to get chopped at the knees for it), does not belong in Canton.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Pep - no way.

    Bennett will be OK as a third wideout. His main benefit is he's not Hester and then they don't need Knox.

    Cutler - gave up way too much to roll the dice with another QB. I doubt we'd do any better unless we brought in a true offensive minded HC.

    I agree Urlacher will move on and probably play for someone, maybe even the Packers. I wonder too if he has true HOF credentials but my sense is he will get in. You probably sense that too and you're saying he doesn't really deserve it.

  • In reply to BillW:

    don't need knox? i'd rather have him as our 4th WR than hester or sanzebagger or whoever else they can throw out there. knox is the downfield threat we don't have. say what you will about marshall, he's not going to get behind the corner and safety on a straight fly route. knox could do that.

    the loss of knox is one thing that has made me play "what if." the guy was consistently one of the league leaders in YPC without any other real WR threat on the team. now you throw in marshall getting double teams, earl working the slot and forte in the flats, and we've got the potential for knox to be our own victor cruz - fast man catching 70 yard TD passes.

    of course tice would find a way to fuck it up, but you see what i'm getting at.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    Yeah, Knox and Marshall seem like great complements to each other if Knox can get truly healthy again. Who knows about that, though.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    well, i know if my shoulders touched my anus i'd be dead. so he's already got one up on me in my book.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    he's not going to play NFL football every again, and if he does he's an idiot... or a dude with a deathwish

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • In reply to BillW:

    True - Knox healthy adds more than Bennett healthy. I guess I was more comparing Bennet to Hester/Sanzen etc and saying we have a viable 3rd receiver without counting on Knox coming back.


  • In reply to BillW:

    100% dissagree with your first statement.

    Like hester, our OCs just have no fucking clue how to exploit the talent we have... and he's been hurt. Bennett, while not as fast, catches everything (well, almost) and is a much better receiver

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • In reply to gpldan:

    Totally agree with your post gp. Peppers tank seems to be running on fumes. Like when we got Ogunleye. He always had the reputation of taking plays off, and seems to be taking many more off. Urlacher was very good at coverage, chasing backs sideline to sideliine, but totally sucked at shedding lineman to make tackles inside. For a player his size you would have thought he could have done better in that phase. I do think he will get in though, and its not like it would be a total wrong, just my opinion he's a great player, just not HOF great.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Are you going to build this team to keep Cutler or discard him?

    Keep him.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Pepp will be restructured. But it all really depends on where Emery wants to take the team.

    Will Emery fire everyone and hire his own guys? Will he switch to a 3-4 with Shea as his center piece? Or will he simply tweak the team and still see them as a SB caliber team? No one really knows. Emery's a wildcard right now.

    At PFW in the "Whispers" there were some personnel guys who thought that Bennett got way to much, and I agreed, but at that time Bennett was our ONLY reliable WR, and Marshall was but a wet dream.

    I advocated from early on that we need a real slot THREAT (not just chain mover). Luckily, next year, there might be 2 on the market. Welker and Amendola. There's always a handful of slot guys in the draft too, Cobbs, Youngs, Harvins which can be got in the later rounds (because they tend to be small). But I still think Bennett has a place on this team, even if a little overpaid. Due to the rookie wage scale (and draft drop), Alshon is playing for dirt cheap, so it sorta evens out.

  • Also, Pepp runs pretty good in this play where he basically catches up to Major Wright in backside pursuit, so I don't know what the hell is going on with him.

  • Pretty good? He outruns everyone, 60 yards down the field.

  • I think Earl is a threat, honestly. The more I think about it, the more I think the problem with our WRs is Daryl Drake.

    Who has he coached up in his tenure with the Bears? No body. Not one single guy.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    We don't pay Peppers or Cutler or anybody else sentimentality cash. Urlacher has played his last down as a Bear anyway - I don't think this has sunk into the board yet. He will retire at the end of the season, there will be no swansong game for him. Cheers Bri.

    Produce or there's the door. The heroes we have didn't get paid shit, and we should hand it out to celebrities? We forewent having an offensive line so we could get Cutler - something the shit-headed Angelo failed to comprehend, along with recognising the value of wide receivers in the passing game WHEN MARSHALL WAS AVAILABLE AT FIRE SALE PRICES YOU FUCKING MORON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Ahem .. sorry.

  • well, it's too bad some of you guy's aren't lawyers...the entertainment level would be off the charts with you guy's in the courtroom..hehehe

  • In reply to MaddBearfan:

    Crown and NB are esq.s

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    And both are standup mensches.

    I accept cheques.

  • This is the kind of Shelby I'd like (red bikini, halfway down)

    damn is she fine.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Totally agree. I meant to link that when it came out and I spaced out. What a babe!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    nice vagina

  • Wow. This is the least confident I've felt about the Packers chances versus the Bears since 2006. Coincidentally, it's also the first time I've seen the Hyperbolic Homer all but wave the white flag before any Bears game. I still think the Packers should beat the Bears, but it's not gonna be easy as they have been struggling for over a month.........However, wtf is all this shit. The line is only 2.5 - 3 and that's where I think it should be. But Bears fans and media would have you believe its Patriots vs. Bills circa 2007.

    Seems like Brandon Marshall is the only one in Chicago with the nards to speak with some confidence. Fitting, as he's pretty much the only one with enough clout act as such. Good for him for talking trash, I like it, but he's gonna look pretty stupid if their offense has another repeat of September (which I don't think will happen).

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Basically, the Bears have sucked (read: average, middling) since they lost the Superbowl. They're not any worse than they were in 2010. The only difference now is that the Packers also kinda suck for the first time in over 4 years. Advantage: Bears.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    The Bears might be a good bet then. Not often we get a head start.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Bears win, two nards to none.

    Haven't heard Rodgers talking trash. McCarthy was asked directly about Marshall's statements, and he had no reply, except to say that he advised the team not to reply.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Actually, what McCarthy said counts for negative nardage. Bear two, Packers two in the hole.

  • Hope Emery told them to do the job they get paid to do, that'd be a good start. Maybe base their pay on their extra $500 if you CATCH THE FUCKING BALL!!!!!!

  • In reply to MaddBearfan:

    haha. i can see the headlines now.

    "Bears Bounty Program unearthed! Players paid extra for doing what they're paid to do in the first place. Goodell exhumes Halas so he can posthumously remove him from the Hall of Fame"

  • Gotta say, I love to hear Emery had somethings to say to the team himself. I have to hope it was angry, and indicated he would not tolerate that kind of gameplay.

    If he's truly not going to put up with it all, we *will* see Lovie get dropped if the season gets dropped.

    We should keep Cutler, as long as his brain still works. I feel bad for the guy and all the brain damage he's had so far.

    Bennett, we also should keep. When he isn't getting speared by the Saint's bounty or giving everything for a TD and getting concussed for it, he plays quite well. Much better than Hester - who we may want to trade.

    Urlacher, if he really can't hack it, should retire. He seems pretty smart, hopefully he'll leave the game with pride, rather than crying and quitting half way through a season (Kreutz).

    Peppers is the enigma - if his foot truly has been fractured since early this season, he could easily have a few more good seasons left after a heal up off season. If it's not his foot, then I think we drop him too. Maybe we ask him to restructure his last year?

  • In reply to Scharfinator:

    I would also like to add, getting rid of Olsen was a terrible idea... but then again, it's Glitchy so no surprise.

  • In reply to Scharfinator:

    Yeah, we're really missing his every-third-game appearances, those 2 catch games for 0.9 YAC efforts where he fell over if a corner so much as looked at him.

  • Greg Olsen led the Bears in receiving touchdowns in 2008 (5), 2009 (8), and tied with Johnny Knox in 2010 (5). Having Olsen right now would *vastly* improve the Bears passing offense.

    gp made an excellent post earlier in this thread about what Marshall has done for TE possibilities on the Bears, and it would be great to have Olsen to take advantage of them.

    So far as your infatuation with YAC, it is far less meaningful -than yards per target, a true indicator of how effective a team is throwing the ball to a particular guy. Not sure where Olsen rank there, but if you want to criticize him go find some real data instead of pulling some bullshit out of your ass.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Cam Newton says "Thank you, Bears."

  • In reply to Scharfinator:

    Johnny will jump my ass yet again, but I worry a lot about Cutler going the route of Jim McMahon. Although Jay's grit is admirable and a characteristic most football fans love in their players, another concussion or three and his career is likely finis.

    Some is definitely on the oline letting Jay get blindsided. But Cutler *needs* to learn to throw the ball away to avoid getting creamed when he can.

  • Woodson Out.

  • Haha. Da Court. That could be a reality TV show, set in Chicago.

    As for the Emery talk, I hope it was a come to Jesus meeting. Is it just me, or has this team been lacking a sense of urgency since opening the season 7-1? It seems all those crazy defensive TDs went to their heads. The defense thought they could just waltz onto the field and the other team would throw it to them. The offense thought they could just show up and the team would win regardless of their ineptitude. When the defense quit scoring and the offense kept scoring very little, it was game over.
    But now it's Packer Week. If they don't win this one, there's no point in watching the final two, regardless of playoff seeding. They win, and hope will again reside on the lakefront.

  • Peppers contract is a lot GP but I still believe the guy has been worth it.

    Hopefully the Bears get lucky and Peppers restructures his contract but I doubt that happens.

    I have never seen a player like Peppers in my time. Sure, there was Harris but just as I got use to seeing him play, a cowboy had to fuck up his career. That being said, Peppers is usually double teamed every play, playing injured, and is one the main reasons that Melton has looked so good.

    He isn't anywhere near the playing level he was in 2010 but he still has an impact. Hopefully, we will see that impact so up this Sunday.

  • Earl Bennett, what happened to thee?

    I would love to drop his contract if that meant the Bears would be able to get a decent offensive linemen. Cutler's go to guys are Alshon and Marshall.

    Paying a lot for a slot receiver...Now why does that sound familiar? And I am not talking about Hester. Which makes me believe that Hester and Urlacher could be out the door unless they decide to play for cheap.. I would hate to either go to our rivals.

  • No to Earl and any fancy pay requests. He's not Wes Welker or Tom Waddle.

  • Tom Waddle was not a good receiver Irish. I don't know why you bring him up all the time. Oh yeah, cause your an idiot....He caught over 50 balls 1 time in his career in 1991 for a wopping 500 yards and 3 tds. I vote for a Tom Waddle ban on da blog.

  • Harris was no Peppers Artoo, Harris wasnt even Steve McMichael. Tommie Harris was a promising player with attitude problems.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Harris was a dominating player at his peak. Yes, he had an attitude problem, but it was really the knee problems that derailed his career.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    Looking at his stats he really was not dominating compared to other great tackles. I posted up his vs. McMichaels stats last year Mongos were better. Tommie was good, he could be disrupting, not dominating in my book.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    Harris was a lesser version of Wally Chambers.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Harris was special until ex-Bear Columbo leg whipped him. He was just another guy after that.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    You guys remember the San Diego game when Harris timed the snap, shot the gap and actually took the center/quarterback exchange? It might have been the season opener in 06. Bears were backed up to their goal line and he saved their asses.

  • He's only worth it if we win a Lombardi Artoo, ditto Cutler. You don't buy the Ferrari to sit in the garage. What do we buy and who did we draft with those picks/cash? Sacrifices were made to win now.

  • There's a little Lombardi trophy under the Charlie Brown Christmas tree that Brandon Marshall brought to his press conference:

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Brandon Marshall's press conference:

  • I think Peppers has been playing on one foot all year. Last week was his best game this year. Hopefully that is a precursor of things to come. #54 will have to take a major pay cut. Low guarantee with lots of incentives. Who knows? Earl already got his money, might as well hang onto him. Melton is getting paid. Jennings might get an extension. Cutler isn't getting an extension unless it's on the Bears terms. Depends on the OL signings and who is the OC. If Cutler deems them substandard he either walks or gets franchised. Hester has little to no trade value (never had much) and his contract is full of benchmarks for WR stats. Not sure why everyone seems to think he's so over paid. No production at WR=no big payday. Knox will never play again.

    Unless we solve the OL issues and the OC issues, Cutler will not sign. I can't imagine Emery giving Cutler a major deal with his concussion issues. Lots of moving parts.

    If Emery is a good GM we have some hope. If he's Glitchy 2.0 we're beyond fucked. If we don't make the playoffs there are going to be a lot of ex-Bears this off season. I'm looking at you Lovie, Tice, etc. and a host of mediocre players and past their prime players. Needless to say, none of the OL not named Lance Louis should be house shopping any time soon.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Unless we fix that line, any QB coming in will have concussion issues.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    No doubt. I hate Rodgers for a lot of reasons but he has the good sense to hit the deck when there is impending doom. Usually it's a total pussy move but it's the right thing to do. Being all macho like Cutler makes me respect him but he is letting the team down in the long run because it leads to so many injuries.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Jay needs to be more like Manning, he will throw it away in a heart beat. He has that sixth sense, uncanny. Cutler can make throws well enough to make up for throwing the ball away. If it aint there, fuck it and chuck it!!

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    That's what *franchise* quarterbacks do. Longevity is essential to earn that title.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I think he holds onto the ball too long.

  • I'm gonna play this like it's my last game.....

    Brandon Marshall

    This is going to be epic.

  • My boss at work was riding me about Woodson and Williams talking trash to Marshall during the last game. My reply was, "Do you what they would say to him if they met him on the street? Nothing, absolutely nothing." Big talk when you know the guy isn't going to clean your clock. Fucking assholes.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:


  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    They waited until AFTER the game to talk trash. That's chickenshit. It takes some chutzpah to talk trash before a game.

  • My thoughts exactly. So epic.

  • Bad sportsmanship to talk trash after you win.

  • Lovie is a good coach and leader. We never have the locker room turmoil like some undisciplined teams tend to have. That said, i would prefer our D getting a little more aggressive. I get so frustrated when teams are killing us with short passes & converting third downs. Was in a sportsbar where another Bears fan was also watching the Seahawk game (btw, he looked tohave been a Bears fan since Luckman), and he spazzed out in the 4th qtr because of the failure to get off the field on 3rd downs, to the point he prematurely walked out. I feared he may have caught a stroke had he not leave. He ended coming back in when his 70+ yr old friend went to get him when we took the game to OT, only to witness our D succumb to the same short passes 90+ yrds. Very frustrating to say the least

  • In reply to Gie Code:

    I hate this whole "our team never has Jets turmoil" angle. You know what? The Pats, Steelers, Giants, Packers don't either, except they have SB trophies.

    In fact, very few teams have locker room turmoil, and the ones who do are often bottom dwellers, which the Bears won't be any time soon.

    If Lovie wants to stick around as team pastor, counselor, adviser... I'll be fine with that. Just not H.C. if they lose to the Pack for the 6th straight time.

  • In reply to Gie Code:

    Hi Lovie. BTW - why do people associate old-timers with being insightful about football? If you were a douchebag in 1965 .... you're a nightmare now.

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  • In reply to Albertintucson:


    You are en fuego.

    Which is more consistently en fuego, the burning man in Nevada or Al in Arizona?

    I say Al.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    You're too kind, GP. Thanks.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Nice work, Al.

  • @mikecwright
    Bennett, Briggs, Bush, Cutler, Davis, Hayes, Jennings, McClellin, Melton, Scott, Urlacher all on the injury report today as not practicing.

  • I guess we're pulling a Billichick and listing everyone on questionable.

  • The list on pro-football-reference (that lists it as 12/12) has:

    Gould, Louis, Urlacher, Booker, Hardin, Rachal

    Bennett, Melton, Bush, McClellin, Jennings, Paea,
    Spencer, Scott, Hayes, Davis, Briggs

    Cutler, Tillman

  • Okay. I've said it before, I'll say it again. I support Lovie Smith, but my #1 candidate if Lovie is fired is Dave Toub. So now I'm wondering who else is on my personal short list.

    Here goes:

    1) Dave Toub - He has the creativity and the respect to deserve an HC position. He also knows the players. But he is not the "offensive minded" coach many would want. I think with Toub at HB, Ron Turner might remain at DC which would be great. But I also think we end up with all the same questions about who our defensive coordinator would be.

    2) Kevin Gilbride - NY Giants OC. Runs a "run and shoot" offense that will fit our starters well (Forte and Bush catching passes, Cutler making on the fly adjustments, Marshall lining up everywhere). I think the Giants do a lot of the same things the Bears do, so it would not be a total tear down type of move. Wasn't overally successful on last run as a head coach, but a lot of time has passed since then.

    3) Joe Vitt - Saints interim coach. Did a great job rallying the Saints when he took over mid-season. The Saints offense is legendary, but not really the same as what the Bears run. Nonetheless, he has shown himself to be a great leader, and I think he can do good things to implement a good culture here. He also has a bit more fire in public than Lovie does, which would satisfy the fan base and also maybe put more pressure on underperforming coordinators.

    4) Hue Jackson - The guy got a bad wrap in Oakland when Reggie McKenzie wanted to bring in his own guy. I'd be interested in seeing what he could do with a more stable organization.

    5) David Shaw - Stanford's head coach. Shaw is another offense guy who has a good personality for the the Bears current culture. He took a Stanford program that was good not great and put it over the top. That's what the Bears need. Shaw might also breathe some new life into a team that is arguably stuck in a rut with some of its problems.

    6) Bruce Arians - Colts interrim and they might make the playoffs. Former Steelers OC, and Cutler does a lot of the same things Rothlisberger does. The guy is a good fit. But I get nervous that a guy like this will come in and convert us to a 3-4 team - thereby destroying what has made the Bears win for the past 10 years.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Sean Payton.

    Tee hee.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    No on Hue Jackson. The guy gave up two first round picks for Carson Palmer. No. Not now. Not ever.

    I am all for Bruce Arians though. I doubt the Colts let that guy go. Their new qb is doing great under him. As long as we keep Bates.

    I really do want to keep Lovie, the defense wouldn't be the same without him and I can't see another coach getting the defensive players to play like they do.

  • Was that Hugh Jackson's decision?

    Unless the Colts offer Arians the full time job, which they may do, they can't stop him going elsewhere to get the big chair.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Yeah.. Davis had died at the time and that meant no owner/gm.

    He traded for Palmer because Campbell was out for the year and he was in control.

  • I listed six guys I would interview. Jackson made a bad personelle decision because he was thinking like a coach (win now). We would not let him make those moves in Chicago, that would be Emery's job. The fact is, the Raiders played pretty well under him. I'd talk to him, and I'd talk about that mistake, but I'm not a lock on any of the guys I listed.

    The same goes for Toub by the way. I don't know what he thinks we need to do on O or D; if we have a meeting with the guy and he doesn't have a plan that makes sense, I'm not hiring him.

    That's why I'm not listing any 3-4 D guys. If someone comes in and says we should convert the defense to an entirely different system - I'm thinking twice.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I would be all for Toub getting the job. Not sure what you meant by "I think with Toub at HB, Ron Turner might remain at DC which would be great. But I also think we end up with all the same questions about who our defensive coordinator would be."

    Gilbride makes me nervous because he was such an utter failure the last time.

    A big "Hell No" to Hue Jackson. Besides the Palmer trade, he was back stabbing Oakland's HC and lobbying for his job when Al was alive. No trust factor there for anyone in the org with that guy at the helm.

    Don't know anything about Shaw.

    Arians sounds like a good pick if the Colts let him out of his contract without compensation.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I didn't notice that till you said Canada lol Ron Turner?

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Wow, that sentence has so many things wrong with it.

    Toub at HC.
    Rod Marinelli
    who our offensive coordinator would be

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I thought that's what you meant but was confused.

    Like you, I'm not anti-Lovie but we've missed the playoffs so many times recently it's got to catch up to him. We've had major flaws on our roster ever since he's been the HC but at some point you have to beat some good teams. Other teams rise above the injuries, Lovie's teams never do. It's not all on Lovie. Even when we've had a decent roster of starters (other than the major flaw, usually the OL or safeties), the backups haven't stepped up when called upon. DAMN.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Exactly Canada.

    Everyone keeps saying "Oh, GB has depth" but depth is two-fold. GMs providing gem players, and coaches developing said gems.

    Has Lovie developed ANY player recently? Maybe Manning, but then we let him walk.

  • A couple weeks ago I commented on the seeming inability of the Chicago Bears to develop players. This is a long-term problem for the franchise since Jim Finks left.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Oh please god let Emery hire Hue Jackson.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    With that said.....

    Oh please god let Emery keep Lovie Smith

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I posted this in the previous thread, and I'll repost it here. I advocated Cowher then Toub in that order, but am beginning to just be all in on Toub as H.C. because I remember how Joe Gibbs was supposed to be a savior, but football had passed him by in his last stint.

    I might add Chip Kelly to the list, IF and only IF we get a solid LT to keep Cutler alive in his system.

    -----------From Clayton's mailbag (pertinent to us).------------

    "The firing of Baltimore Ravens offensive coordinator Cam Cameron was a surprise in its timing. But it also illustrates a problem in the NFL.

    Where do coaches find the right offensive coordinator? The constant churning of head coaches is part of the problem. An average of seven coaching changes a year for the past three decades has gobbled up so many coordinators -- both on offense and defense -- it's not allowing a lot of coordinators to grow into head coaching jobs.

    And clearly, it's put head coaches with defensive backgrounds in a tough spot trying to hire the right offensive coordinator.

    John Harbaugh thought he had the right coordinator in Cameron, who was a Norv Turner disciple and who has a great knowledge of the "Air Coryell" type of offense. Even though there has been reported friction between Cameron and quarterback Joe Flacco through the years, the Ravens were always good enough to make the playoffs.

    But the frustration built over the past year. For some reason, the no-huddle offense didn't work as well in road games. Criticism was always leveled against Cameron if his play-calling neglected Ray Rice in the second half of games. Losses to Pittsburgh and Washington led to the internal Ravens explosion that led to Cameron's firing. He was replaced by Ravens QB coach and former Colts head coach Jim Caldwell.

    Caldwell will probably implement more no-huddle and install more plays Flacco likes. If that works down the stretch, Caldwell will probably take the full-time gig.

    If that doesn't work, it won't be easy hiring an offensive coordinator. Look at the landscape. Seven head coaches call their own plays. Nine coordinators are former head coaches, but a 10th, Chris Palmer of the Titans, was fired weeks ago. That leaves 15 coaches who started the season as pure coordinators. Some -- with a list headed by Jay Gruden of the Bengals, Mike McCoy of the Broncos, Greg Roman of the 49ers and Dirk Koetter of the Falcons -- could be lost to head coaching jobs.

    Former Raiders head coach Hue Jackson is an option, but he'll probably get the Bengals job if Gruden leaves.

    Coaches may have to look to colleges to find options if the right fits aren't available in the NFL. "

  • Yep, and that's exactly how Rogers beats us everytime.when he rolls out to the right 2/3 the time someone doesn't get covered in the middle and he burns us.

  • I love this trailer.. I hope I don't get disappointed next Summer.

  • R2...tee hee hee...I knew what that trailer was before I even opened this another re-boot like the Amazing Spiderman was?????? and of course I will be going to see it...I HAVE A TEN YEAR OLD SON...It's a given...hahahahaha

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    It's a reboot and I like what I have heard so far.

    It's a lot darker.I believe that it should be a deeper and darker film... .Superman is a good person and good example but his life is dark..

    People need to see how dark the world is to accept a hero they don't know. That's why I am excited about the new Superman. Show people what they don't know about Superman. Show them how hard it is to be Superman. Show them the pain and suffering that Superman has gone through. I doubt Superman's personality has changed at all in this movie but the world has.

    Superman is really alone for the majority of his life. No one knows his pain. How he lost his natural family, how he lost his adopted Father, or how goes through his younger life and most of his teen life wondering who he is. How do you think we would react to all of that? It wouldn't be all sunshine and roses. We all know what it's like to feel alone and it's nice to see that with Superman.

    It's one of the main reasons I connected with Superman. It wasn't because he was good or his truth, justice, and American way.. It was his pain. It felt so similar.

  • Ah. I sense the affinity you have for Kal-el, Artoo. Perhaps Peter Parker too? I've always felt the same way about The Hulk and Tony Stark. Funnily enough I ended up an alcoholic like Stark.

  • I'm with you Artoo..the older ones were great, I even watched the show when I was a kid every week when George Reeves played him.
    This trailer looks like a lot more serious version.Should be interesting. I'm also a big Star Trek fan. Used to swipe my folks 19" black and white, Not fucking light either and take to my first apt to watch it. Then take the tv back for the rest of the week. Couldn't afford one, had to have a car to go to work in.

  • In reply to MaddBearfan:

    ake sure you see Shatner's The Captains. Wonderful life-affirming work. Captain Sisko is a weird cat, man. Shatner connects beautifully with Mulgrew and Stewart. Great stuff. He's a lovely man.

  • He's a rocket, man.

  • You know what I'm referring to, right? The best thing in the history of television, Shatner's Rocketman:

  • Hope so. I'm more of a Batman guy, but love comics and graphic novels in general.

    I wonder who the villain is going to be...from the trailer it looks like Brainiac, but would love to see Doomsday.

    Although, what I would really like to see is someone make some of the Superman graphic novels into movies, esp "Red Son". If you haven't read that one Artoo, you def should.

  • Zod.

  • Kneel before Zod!

    He's back? lol

    Although he's a good villain, it'll be hard to top the previous Zod.

    Still think they should put in Brainiac, Doomsday, or Darkside, but maybe they're saving those dudes for later.

  • General Zod as played by the gayest man on the planet.

    How many times will they remake the first Superman movie? How do you top Marln fucking Brando as Jor-el? Superman Returns was shit - why did they make that?

  • I'm a batman guy too, but haven't loved any of the movies. And the guys they pick to be him was hopeless... all of them.. especially the new dude, he's a freak and a bad actor. Terrible.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I don't know much about the Batman movies. Are you talking about Christian Bale (Empire of the Sun, American Psycho, The Fighter)? That guy is a pretty good actor.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I thought the recent Batman movies were pretty good, myself.
    I didn't even dislike Anne Hathaway in the last one and she annoys the shit out of me.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Any man who finds Anne Hathaway or Gwyneth Paltrow attractive is homosexual. This is not even debatable. Hathaway is a lollipop stick with eyes. Paltrow could only be the fantasy of a young bush wookie.

  • Really?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Gwyneth is a very attractive woman. She is aging really well and carries herself in a classy way.

    I'm not saying she'd win a puerto rican Suntropic thong contest on spring break but she is sexy in her own way.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Dude. The Machinist was a legendary performance, and that boxing thing he was in with Wahlberg - he stole the show. Dude has chops.

  • Yeah, "The Fighter", right? Loved that movie.

  • The Machinist... damn. Bale nearly killed himself.

  • Looks bad ass.

  • I used to love Packer week in the 80s. I didn't mind it in the 70s because both teams were bad. I've hated it ever since - puts me in a bad mood knowing the Packers as a team and organizaition are so much above where we are.

    Someone said Ginny really wants to beat the Packers. While I would surmise that's true - that the rivalry mode was inherited from Papa Bear - maybe she doesn't care all that much. I've never gotten the sense she really cares what happens as long as the team/organization is not made laughing stocks. The times that's happened on her "watch" she stepped in.

    Despite the lopsidedness of the rivalry, it's not looked at nationally as an embarasment - because the Packers are viewed as the superior team and the Bears aren't quite there.

    Now of they lose 61-7 or something, then it's different. (I was at that game in the 80s. MAN!!!!!)

    But you know, I get the sense McCarthy is smart enough not to embarass the Bears. I suspect most if not all Packer fans think Lovie should stay because "he does such a good job with a weak roster." (I'm guessing). I know a Packer fan who said Jauron was a great coach for that reason. What he was really saying was "Please don't fire him; they might actually get someone who can win the division regularly."

  • In reply to BillW:

    Mostly agree Bill. I do think Virginia cares deeply but is too loyal to her kids (business wise). Also, I think she's a softie and doesn't like firing people. Totally agree about Packer fans blowing smoke up our asses hoping we don't hire competent GM's/coaches.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I'm just curious. Does anyone really give a flying flute what Ginnie thinks, I mean on this board? The Bears belong to the fans, the paper belongs to Ginnie. We don't get the revenue, just the annual heartache.

  • Dear Irish -

    sometimes you say stupid shit

    Love, GP

  • In reply to BillW:

    When Lovie got here he said his mission was to beat the Packers. Ergo he failed.

  • Hey Doc - hope you saw my post and someone else who posted about Payton's hill on the Nickoll Knoll golf course in Arlington Heights.

  • In reply to BillW:

    I did. Thanks, man.

  • Roger Goodell says they committee is looking at 14 or 16 teams in the playoffs

  • Great, then it will be like the NHL where like the worst two teams are the only ones not in the playoffs....

  • that's tarded.

    It's bad enough that 7-9 teams can get into the playoffs already. The current system is fine.

    This is almost as bad as his punt for kickoffs idea.

  • Why does he insist on fucking with our perfect game? The balls on this guy!

  • He looks like the devil. Like a geithner.

  • Why does this guy consistently want to change the NFL? pisses me of man

  • Another idiotic idea from Goodell. Hopefully the NFLPA will tell them to stuff themselves.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    He basically said they weren't punishing anyone because "they were all [the Saints]responsible". Is that wide of the mark?

  • Nice Smokescreen, Roger. "Please debate this nonsense so my BOUNTYGATE humiliation has a chance to cool."

    Leave the game alone, Mr. Goodell.

    You've de-ephmasized kick-offs enough.

    We don't NEED anymore teams.
    32 to is the PERFECT number for the NFL.

    Want a team in L.A? MOVE one. There are multiple candidates but we know you and the owners want NEW teams so you can make somebody pony up hundreds of millions of dollars for a team fee.

    Want a team in London? Put tdown the crack pipe. If the English cared they'd have had a RIOTor two at one of your annual games by now, not to mention that it is a logistical NIGHTMARE. BTW, the Concorde stopped flying YEARS ago.

    You want more Playoff teams? Uh-uh. Hands OFF my playoff structure. If you want a 5-8 Jets or Chargers team in the post-season, make 'em win more games than they lose.

    You want 18 regular season games? Only if I'm allowed to whack you with a baseball bat 20 times a week for each of those weeks.
    LOOK AROUND, moron! Your players (whose health you are supposed to be SO CONCERNED about ) are dropping like flies during the CURRENT schedule. Your league is ALREADY a war of attrition and ATTRION is winning!

    You sound like WWI (and WWII, for that matter) Generals ordering frontal infantry assaults against entrenched positions fortified with artillery and automatic weapons...ALL from the safety of your bunker 3 miles from the front lines.

    Wake up!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I tend to agree with you, Al, but look at it this way...
    He is looking for ways to minimize contact in order to extend the regular season (and the post-season for that matter).
    When you absolutely own the market to the extent that you are going to, you have to find ways to squeeze more revenue out of the stone. Short of moving existing franchises into larger media markets (which is always on the table), this is the NFL end-game.
    The existing owners aren't going to want to expand the number of franchises because it dilutes their brand and their individual share of the league, so we're going to have to get used to this shit.

  • Fooki Mi....

    this week has been like a fire fight for me...EVERY FUDGPECKER I know has been busting my balls....

    FUCK YOU LDL!!!! wasn't his quote something like his whole purpose was to beat GB every year????? yeah how's that working you "F" clown.....

    Is this LDL's Coaching Staff after the season:

    Bear Down Boyz.......

  • murph... how'd it go? all good?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ahem, I don't want to sound like someone's mom nagging them to clean up their room but I need an email address from one of you guys. Mike V also is up for contributing to your inebriation so unless you want me to spend your Ditka's drinking money on ice cream and raspberry danishes for myself, you better get with it and email me at so I can get that gift card out to you all...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Jesus Tobi... you guys really don't have to do that. The point was to get you guys there to enjoy it WITH us not drop cash in absentia!

    I'll shoot you an email later to chastise you more.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If Tobi and I could be there we would buy us all a round. We are just trying to be there in spirits. So shut up and send the man your email.

  • In reply to MikeV in OR:

    Alright, alright! You know we'd be buying you a round too. I think Tobi has 30's email now.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Sent an email to you and Doc. Went alright.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    back at you murph

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    So we're seeing ya on Saturday night, Murph?
    Can't wait!
    Now if only Shady would quit ditching us...

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Wouldn't miss it for anything. I may be walkin a lil funny, but Ill be walkin it with the boys!

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    So Murph, did the docs let you keep the leftover part after your penis reduction? Should mount that shit on your mantle. What part was it by the way? Do they cut out the middle part and sow the head back on? Crazy.

  • I have that section on a stretcher so MB can slip it over his head and use it for an ear warmer at the game! hahahaha

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Positive vibes at you from around the planet Murph! Go-on-yeboy-yah!

  • Only 2 teams I think have missed the playoffs in 23years after going 7-1. There is no way this will happen to us. If it does you have to make a change. Making "bad" history is never good.

    Cutty, take Brandon, Alshon and Matt aside and have talk about taking this game over.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Make it 3 teams ...after Sunday.

  • In reply to sargeanton:

    Btw, I hope I'm wrong.

  • In reply to sargeanton:

    That kind of talk during Packer week....tsk, tsk.

  • In reply to sargeanton:

    pussy comment.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Good stat. I have a funny feeling in me waters that we could nick this. I had the same feeling before Atlanta when we won at 5/2.

    Pass pro was not terrible last game (J'Marcus aside, as always). Brandon, Baby Brandon. Bush/E-rod off-guard/tackle. Why not?

    Did Steltz fall off the bench?

  • Gotta say that after watching Brandon Marshall say he does not like the Packers, and he challenges them to cover one on one, and after reading this. I am fucking pumped up baby! Packer week just hit me!!!!!!!!

    Bears are gonna fuckin annihilate the packers. This is the game gents.

  • Tobi, if you're still around check your email...

  • Seems like a healthy Tim Jennings would match up better with Cobb than Peanut. Not sure will have that obviously. They move Cobb all over the formation, back field, slot outside to dictate match ups...would be kinda surprising to see Peanut shadow him. He's the key piece LoveRod have to game plan around. Stopping the run and getting to Rodgers is mostly about execution.

  • I am completely disgusted with my alma mater for desecrating a great monument. Honest Abe must be turning in his grave, because he would be a huge Bears fan. This CANNOT STAND!

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Cheesehead bastards!!!!

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    That is sick and wrong.
    Sick and wrong.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    What are they gonna do? Wisconsin's most famous political figure was Joseph McCarthy. Nobody erected any statues of him after he died (of alcoholism, naturally). The only monument to him is this one.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Which is unfortunate, because Bob La Follette, Sr -should- be the most famous Senator from Wisconsin...

    Oh well, scandal before success, I suppose.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Fightin' Bob is still a hero among Progressives in WI. The name is still popular. His grandson has been Sec. of State of WI since I was a kid.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    The Republican Party started in Ripon, WI. 1830ish.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    "Tail Gunner Joe".

    Except he never WAS tail gunner.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Too bad. A lot of those guys had to be hosed out of the turret after a bombing run.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Talk about GUTS, Crunch.
    I cannot IMAGINE flying combat missions in a B-17 or B-24. Or how about flying a B-25 off the deck of a WWII aircraft carrier to go bomb Tokyo and then MAYBE have enough fuel to (crash) land in Japanese Occupied China. All when the FIRST B25 to fly from a carrier happens to be THE LEAD PLANE FOR THAT MISSION !!!!

    Hall of Famer, Chuck Bednarik, was an air gunner.
    I believe on a B24.

    Tom Landry was a B17 Pilot.

    Recently saw somebody's list of "The Best War Movies Ever Made".

    TWELVE O'CLOCK HIGH was NOT on it, which immediately brands that list's author(s) as somewhat ignorant and their list as meaningless.

  • Fuck the Packers.

  • If by some miracle the Bears beat the Packers, what makes anyone think they'll beat Detroit in the last game in Detroit? Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if the Bears lost to the Cards. It's time for Lovie Smith to go lovie somewhere else. Never have such good teams been so badly managed. That fire to win starts with the head coach. Lovie has been a melting ice cube for years.

  • In reply to sargeanton:

    Troll, troll, troll your boat...

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:


    Let me see those hands, Mister Hooper.

  • In reply to sargeanton:

    The results that have happened this year, it is possible we lose to the Cards. By a field goal.

  • Cards offense is EMBARRASSINGLY bad and their defense sure played like 11 guys who'd rather be on the golf course last week.

  • Lotta Toub love going on here. I would be leary about making jim a HC. Is there precedent for a guy moving from Specials to Head Coach? Seems like a big leap. While he has run a very good special teams unit for a long time, it has become pretty ordinary since 23 packed it in. He has also had the luxury of Robbie Gould since 05. And the fake kick turned field goal at GB this year still pisses me off. How do you get caught that far out?
    Seems to me there would be better options out there.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    Fake kick turned TD. Stupid.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    Tice, Turner, it wouldn't matter too much who was calling the plays if we had a fargin O-line like the one Troy Aikman can thank his career for.

  • And for no reason in particular, we why does nobody adopt the flex defense? The most balanced defense there has ever been and it just got boxed.

  • And even WITH that O-Line, Aikman's career was cut short by concussions.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    Ditka was a special teams coach, mr wad.

  • Ditka was the TE coach for the Cowboys when old man Halas hired him.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I think there is some controversy over exactly what Ditka's role with Landry was when Halas snagged him.

    Ditka used to write George letters, saying he would come coach the Bears when he had learned what he needed to know from Landry.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    Harbaugh seems to have done fine with it.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Indeed. Didn't know he was a Special Teams Coordinator. Hence the question. We must be talking Ravens Harbaugh not Niners Harbaugh.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    Bingo - yeah, and there was some doubt at the time about his ability to move into the HC ranks from that spot...
    But he's done one helluva job (although it sure helps to have HOF talent on your D, as we know).


  • Cutler and Marshall are pretty funny in this. Tice is more on the "just kinda sad" side. Apologies if it's already been posted and/ or you were hoping for Japanese tentacle pron.

  • In reply to tuanlane:

    Jesus, we had that game. Alshon and Hester have to make those plays.

    Also, I was hoping for Japanese Tentacle Porn but this was a quality vid that you posted so i'll let it slide. Please try to deliver some JTP next time....animated if possible.

  • Despite Irish saying silly, misguided shit like "who cares what Ginny thinks", let me remind everyone of a few things:

    Ginny is holding the ownership group together. When she croaks, this organization will go into full disarray, with several members of the group not giving a fuck about football or the sport, and wanting to cash out once she is gone.

    Teddy Ballgame was not a nickname invented by me (although I do claim credit for a few around here). He was called that by the Daley Administration, specifically Bill Daley, Rich's brother. Ted Phillips once famously said, at the low ebb of the Soldier Field contract in which the Bears shoved their organizational penis up the colon of the Chicago taxpayer, that "it was his ball game, and they could go play somewhere else." Daley called him "Teddy Ballgame" after that. Ted is a Northwestern accounting major, I don't even think he has an MBA. He's a toadie, specifically, he is Ginny's toadie and widely considered to be the Grima Wormtounge to Ginny's King of Rohan. (See how I dropped that LOTR in there with the Hobbit opening tomorrow? Man, I am good.)

    Because Ted is a dickish penny pinching fool who made his career on the deal in which he jacked over Daley, well he and Mike McCaskey - who the honorable Richie Daley said, openly and to the press, that he would punch in the face if he could - because he earned the McCaskey trust on that deal - he's untouchable.

    Nobody who knows shit about the NFL considers Emery to be an empowered GM. He's got the GM title, but he's really head of scouting. That's it. Only Teddy Ballgame can fire Lovie.

    The Bears have never, since perhaps Halas himself, hired a previous head coach. Pardee was in the Canadian league as an assistant, Armstrong was in the World League or pre-USFL or some shit like that, not even as a HC, Ditka was an assistant, Wanny was another Cowboys assistant under Jones, Jauron was never a HC, Lovie was a DC. Even when they fucked up Dave McMannis, he wasn't a HC.

    There is no fucking way until Teddy Ballgame is gone that the Bears hire a previous HC, so stop speculating that they will. They won't. No Cowher, no Chucky, fuck that shit it isn't going to happen. They will do what they always do, look for some assistant because nobody in a Chucky class will want a shitbird like Emery around. And the Bears know it.

    So, it comes down to if GINNY - and ONLY GINNY - wants to be seen by her NFL comrades as giving a fuck about the legacy, as to if Lovie goes or stays. Ted won't do it, ted is captain status-quo. If it were up to Ted, Jerry Angelo would still be here.

    GINNY will make the call on Lovie, and that is what WILL happen. And since Lovie brings her flowers and calls her ma'am Driving Daisy Style, I highly doubt that unless we totally flame out here and the press starts calling the ORGANIZATION a joke, that it will happen.

    Which should make bigcheese the resident troll under the bridge, very very happy.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    EXCUSE me, but there is only ONE "Teddy Ballgame".

    THAT would be the best hitter who ever played baseball, Ted Williams.

    Or as he often reffered to himself...Ted "Fucking" Williams.

    He, not the Babe, is the man whom Aaron and Bonds WOULD have been chasing for the homerun crown except that Mr. Williams missed 2 or 3 seasons in the prime of his baseball career fighting Nazis, Facists and Commies while flying fighter planes for the Army Air Corps in WWII and for the USAF in Korea (as John Glenn's Wingman).

    Whomever defiled that nickname by using it on a "bean counter" should be taken to the woodshed and shown the error of his ways.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    It is the absolute equivalent of calling that guy "Sweetness" !

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Perhaps by calling him that, he was being sarcastic.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I BELIEVE Armstrong came to the Bears from a stint as Vikings' DC.

    Also, that would be Dave MaGINNIS and I believe it was his botched "'hiring" that was so mishandled by Mike McCaskey that it precipitated Virginia stripping Mikey of his power & title. Thanks, Dave!

    MaGinnis soon moved on to Head Coaching mediocity here in Arizona.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Bullshit. If you really think a 106 year old women is making any decisions your a crazy, crazy asshole.

  • Let me start by saying, Fuck the Pack...Bear Down!!! Next, I love this blog. What other blog goes from Bears chat to movie previews to philosophical chat to pictures of smoking hotties, and everything in-between?

    To the lads going to the game, I am truly envious. I should be half hammered starting Friday afternoon as I took off the weekend to focus on the Pack and get it started right...but nowhere as cool as being there in Chicago...Take pics!!!

    And lastly, for all the shit we, myself included, give KD here is my prediction...He goes for 60 and a TD. Cutler can only force the ball to Marshall so many times. I see the middle of the field being open and numbnuts KD needs to step it up more than ever....

    With that, happy Festivus...Bear Down!!

  • In reply to 505 Bears!!:

    505, lay off the zima this week. Last time you were posting like Cutler was the anti christ.

    Also, it's not really "forcing" when you throw it to the best receiver in the league and he catches it 65% of the time. That is 4 catches more that would put him at 67% which is tops in the league.

    The Bears are not missing opportunities by going to Marshall so much. He is the fucking janitor that cleans up the mess on the drive and gets us the first down on 3rd and 6, 7, 8 ,9 10, 11 , etc.There are still plenty of chances for Forte to gain 1.8 yards or others to drop TD's.

    I agree that the middle of the field seems wide open but KD attracts defenders like horse manure and can 't create separation. Jay will have to lay it right in his face if he wants it caught. I believe that KD will have a good game simply because if he doesn't he will have to be killed.

  • Lambeau caught fire shortly after Brandon Marshall's press conference.

    Bad omen for the Cheese.

  • Crunch -

    Groovin to Shatner's Rocket Man. Best. Television. Ever.

    Like Sonic Youth's Superstar

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And totally sincere. Though Shatner claims otherwise, he can't be that great a genius.

    I had never seen Sonic Youth's Superstar. Nice tribute.

  • Ways we could have been 10-3 or 11-2 this year:

    1. If Bennett and Hester make one catch for those TD's we win 2 games.
    2. If Jeffery either catches his TD or doesn't fall on his INT we win a game.
    3. If Tice would have delivered on his promise to run quick routes, move the pocket, get the ball out of Jay's hands quickly, etc from the beginning of the year we win at least a game or two more. We handed the GB game to them based on playcalling alone.
    4. If Kellen Davis was even a poor man's Dez Clark or Olsen we pick up 6 more first downs this year on the opponents side of the 50.
    5. If Major Wright catches a ball thrown at him we win a game.

    Those simple items are the difference between 11-2 and 8-5. We can sit here all we want and talk about the aging defense, the offensive inconsistency, the demeanor of the qb, the injuries, the whatever the fuck you want to talk about but it doesn't change the fact that we are less than 5 actual and singular plays from winning at least 2 more games.

    It didn't have to come to this win or die scenario.

    That is why I feel we win this game....because Tice can't be that fucking stupid to let the Packers tee off on Cutler, the other guys have to make a catch once in a while when Jay puts it in their hands and for god's sake use Forte in the fucking passing game against a LB. (And here's a hint Tice, it doesn't have to be a wheel route!!!!!!). You are in fact allowed to throw short passes in the fucking VOID that is the middle of the field if KD chooses to fucking suck over and over and over.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Did you know "if" is the middle word in life?

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Or as my Grandmother would say "If wishes were horses then beggars would ride"

  • Tomorrow, I'll be in the holy land.


  • Roger Waters and Eddie Vedder doing Comfortably Numb last night.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Damn. How bitchin' is that?

  • Very bitchin'

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