Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings Game Preview

Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings Game Preview

It is very difficult to write another game preview for Bears v. Vikings when I just wrote one two weeks ago and almost nothing has changed. The Bears still need the game. The Vikings still need the game. Percy Harvin is not playing. Adrian Peterson and Jared Allen are.

But I shall do so anyway.


  • I always like the Chicago Bears.
  • Christian Ponder's last six games have been - with the exception of an excellent performance against Detroit - terrible. Exclude the Lions game and Ponder is completing just over 50% of his passes (50.12), he's thrown 4 TDs and 7 INTs and his quarterback rating is 49.54. (By no coincidence, Harvin hasn't played an entire game since October 25th.)


I can't root against Adrian Peterson in the same way  could never root against Barry Sanders. I have too much respect for his greatness. The difference between Peterson and Sanders? This:

I'd like to write the Bears need to stop Peterson to beat the Vikings but the Packers allowed AP to go off for 200+ and still won by double digits. So I would say this to the Bears defense: limit AP and win.


28 points. That should be the minimum number for Jay Cutler and the Bears offense this week. 28 points. The Bears defense is reeling off Russell Wilson's two-drive, 177 yard mauling at Soldier Field and right now can not be expected to shutdown the Vikings with the ease they did at Soldier Field in late November. We've all commented on the progress being made by Mike Tice and the offense but now - over these final four games - that progress needs to translate into points. 28 points. Sunday.


Here is my problem with the Bears pass rush: over the last three games the combination of Peppers, Idonije, McClellin and Wootton has three total sacks and even those three sacks feel completely unimpressive. Watching the Bears defensive line up close on Sunday, only two players jumped off the field: Henry Melton (spectacular) and actually Nate Collins. If the Bears don't find a consistent edge rush over the next month they will do no better than .500.


  • The loss to the Seahawks overshadowed two things. One was of course Cutler's magnificent performance. But the other was Adam Podlesh, at crunch time, dropping a punt inside the 5. Podlesh has been better of late and I've noticed.
  • Players on notice: Geno Hayes (you can't be 54 but you can tackle), Kelvin Hayden (you can't be Tim Jennings but you can try), DJ Moore (back in the nickel spot) & Eric Weems (be smarter on kick returns).
  • I would hope the Bears defensive meeting rooms this week were infatuated with Kyle Rudolph. If  Ponder can't get the ball to his big tight end he can't get the ball down the field so it's incumbent upon the combination of LB/nickel/safety to keep Rudolph from exploiting the middle of the field now to be vacated by the absence of Urlacher. (Side note: the Bears have used Briggs and Roach far more over the middle this year than in previous years due to the limitations on Brian's legs.)
  • If Christian Ponder were a read option quarterback, I'd take the Vikings to win.


As the week has progressed I've started to believe the Bears are going to deliver a big effort in Minnesota Sunday. I think there will be a testiness about the defense and a take charge nature about the offense. And if Earl Bennett catches the damn football Sunday I believe we were primed to see a 300+, 3 or 4 TD effort from Jay Cutler.

Chicago Bears 30, Minnesota Vikings 13


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  • Hope you're right Jeff. I posted a couple of days ago the Beloved have been playing single high safety for most of the year because #54 can't cover the deep middle. He may be done. Sad.

  • This game has all the makings of an ass kicking handed out by the Chicago Bears. I just hope the defense doesn't suffer too much from losing Urlacher's leadership on the field.

    Paula Cole, and Analyze This? Sounds like someone is on board with "sort of" pop culture references! Welcome to the party J-Hugs!

  • In reply to Perno:

    the blog's tshirt this year is centered around a pop culture reference from 1980. no matter what mister man says, he embraces the tender kisses of pop culture. =]

  • In reply to evantonio:

    we should all embrace the tender kisses of pop culture references... without it I wouldn't know how to communicate to people.

    Kick Ass!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Where's the Beef?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I've faawllen! And I caaan't get up!!

  • In reply to ben in norcal:

    Clap On! Clap off!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Wax on, wax off!

    Come on, let's keep it going.

  • In reply to ben in norcal:

    Relax, don't do it.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm your huckleberry.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah, Jeff. Take off, hoser.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    You make a great point.

    Ladies and gentlemen, this is Mambo #5...

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    Season on the line over the next two weeks. Offense needs to step up and dominate the game. Defense needs to hold serve. Special teams needs to show up. They have been average. Zero big plays. (not counting the FG unit).

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Season on the line? Season over Mike. Despite the fact that we are now missing significant chunks of what was a bad offensive line to begin with, there is also the small fact of life without Urlacher to factor in. Whichever guy goes into his spot they CANNOT do what he does, and I'm not talking about running 60 yards lickety split. He's the general, he's the man, and when he's not there, we lose. It's the first rule of Post Millenium era Bears football.

    Switch the teams and you might have the scoreline right, Jefe.

    Get well soon Brian, something miraculous and unexplainable might happen with our benchwarmers and we're going to need God back.

  • I actually think Roach will do okay from a play calling standpoint, he's just too small to take on lineman.

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    Season over, no. 4 games left :) Next two will tell whether they can overcome the injuries. This team never played up to its potential. I for one am optimistic. Don't know why, usually I'm declaring disaster. After the GB loss, I was besides myself. During the disaster in SF, I was done. But with 4 games to go, I believe this team is going to respond.

    Bears 31 Vikings 27.
    Bears 24 Packers 21

    In my opinion the biggest loss is Jennings. I love Brian Urlacher. We are a better defense with him. But it's not the drop off it was 3 years ago, simply because he's not as good and Roach is better than he was. Briggs is the key.

    Defense won't carry the Bears. I for one thought the early season success was a mirage. At the beginning of the year a lot of people thought the offense would have to step up and win games.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Last sentence is the deal, Mike.

    It's about time for them to do so.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    With Marshall, Cutty, Forte, Bush, and Alshon, there is no reason this offense should be incapable of doing so,'s put up or shut up time for the offense. Tice's job is certainly on the line these next four games (whether or not Lovie would get fired with a winning record is a different story).

  • uh oh, pessimistic Irish is back. Season over? what the fuck are you talking about? We're 8-4 about to be 9-4.

  • IrishGayness. Your negativity is nauseating.

  • And I thought Russians were pessimistic!

    Common, Irish, drink the Baileys laced coolaid!

    (that actually sounds kinda disgusting)

  • It sure does

  • Irish Mac Truck Bomb?

  • All I want for Christmas is game 2's Alshon Jeffery for the rest of the season.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    he apparently practiced yesterday. so maybe he'll be back this weekend. that would be nice. because i'm scared that hester will be lining up across the line from marshall.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    good ol dive-down

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    don't forget the half yard gainers on the bubble screen.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    Or the decision to return a punt negative fifteen yards.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    but isn't it kind of exciting to see him running back those fifteen yards? cause it used to mean good things were about to happen. remember that? those days?

  • Download it while you can: Jay Cutler's 56 yard pass to Brandon Marshall with 9 seconds remaining in the Bears-Seahawks game:

    The link I posted a few days ago doesn't work anymore. Fox and/or the NFL claimed copyright infringement. YouTube pulled the vid and deleted the account of the fan who uploaded it:

    The YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated due to multiple third-party notifications of copyright infringement. Sorry about that.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I think that play alone, from beginning to end, should be enough to give us more than a little bit of hope in this last quarter.
    We should have had NO chance at even getting to OT against the Seahawks after the D collapsed at the end of the 4th Quarter.
    And yet, with a franchise QB, a franchise WR, and one hell of a Kicker, we managed to tie things up. With one half rotation of a coin, we'd be 9-3 and not having this "Skyfall" conversation this week.

    If we lose to the Vikings, I'll start considering the season to be in serious trouble. If we win, then we are 9-4, near locks for a Wild Card spot at a minimum, and bearing down on a date with destiny on the 16th.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    So seeing that on Sunday. Can't wait.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    When are you ever gonna be on PS3 again, maiiiiiing?

  • NFL fines Brian Urlacher $31,500 for horse-collar tackle

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Jensen edited his article. He made a mistake. Urlacher was fined $21,000, not $31,500:

    Sean Jensen ‏@seankjensen
    Clarification: 2nd offense for horse collar is $31,500 based on fine schedule but NFL has ability to go above or below. Urlacher fined $21k
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  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    He keeps horsecollaring cause he keeps letting RBs run right by him.

    Hopefully, these 4 games off will give him some rest.

  • Hopefully he comes back facemasking.

  • Long time lurker but don't post much. Thought this was a good read though.

  • In reply to tuanlane:

    lurking for long periods of time and you bring in a competitors blog.

    You're embarassing the blog Tuan. That article has schematics and video references and technical analysis. When you're here I just want you to tell me why you think the Bears will win and then link it to a video of a hot asian chick...and use plenty of sarcasm but very little pop reference.

  • Ancient Chinese Secret!

  • too bookoo

  • In the 2nd quarter, the Bears will rediscover the screen pass to Forte leading to a 63 yard touchdown following a crushing down field block by Kellen Davis (possibly the greatest blocking tight end since Greg Olsen) on Jared Allen causing him to leave the game after choking on a concrete like mixture of semen and chaw that was dislodged from his lower jaw.
    Bears - 21, Vikings-13

    Information used in this prediction was obtained from the following sources: ,

  • In reply to tuanlane:

    well done... but why do we both have negative scores?

  • You're soaking in it!

  • After much thought and contemplation I feel that my time here has run it's least for the rest of the season.

    I feel that I don't bring any value anymore (maybe i never did) and that my posts are forced as I rehash the same old ideas and feelings about the team. When you're on the web it feels like it's not enough to enjoy good games and hope that we recover from bad ones anymore. It's not enough to enjoy a great sideline pass or a WR dominating a game or a great defense of a screen. It's become about Fantasy and viewing the season as a failure if a superbowl is not won and bitching and complaining and stressing and pessimism. It's just not worth the aggravation. I just can't get on board with the negativity.

    I think alot of you guys are smart as shit and really entertaining. I for one have thoroughly enjoyed and will continue to thoroughly enjoy this season as we recover from the multi year ass banging that Jerry did to the offensive line and drafting of young talent. I think this too will recover like a scab that remains unpicked.

    Jeff, thank you for hosting the blog and bringing your passion to the web and allowing me a place to come and voice Bears opinions that my wife couldn't give a shit about.

    Regs, i've sparred with some of you, agreed with others, became amused by some, learned alot from others (about more than football) but I'll never understand the mind of a troll. I'm done being pissed about someone using their freedom to be a total tool. I've been a tool at times as well but I can tell you that I did it out of love for the team.

    My advice to you is enjoy the little things about the game that make it the best game in the world. The perfectly executed slant, the ballsy holding of the edge by a impossibly overmatched corner vs guard, our fucking warrior of a qb, Bushy trying to fucking jump over everyone, ballpunching, blocked fg's, guys laying it on the line, etc.

    I don't know how the season is going to end up but I know the next couple of games are going to be fun as hell to watch, both joyous and frustrating at the same time.

    keep working hard boys and i'll see you on the other side. Maybe Jay will be there smirking at the camera while holding the prize and envisioning signature steakhouses, wines, cigars and bbq sauce along with Brandon. he'll probably just say that he played ok and that they need to clean things up next year.

    When Jay hit that pass to Marshall at the end of regulation my 2yr old girl starting dancing around like a crazy hippy. I asked her who our guy was and she said "J Cut and Marsh, and Julius Peppers and Brian and Pnut" she was saying the alphabet. fucking priceless.

    Here's to the greatest end to a bears season since I can remember.

    Bear Down

  • Permission to abort denied. Take the next 24 hours to unfuck yourself.

    You and your optimism will report back to the blog at 0900 Zulu tomorrow.


  • In reply to Viva:


  • In reply to Viva:

    +1 more

  • I get it. I have fucking had it with Gnome code, but at least Jeff is leaving.

    If I'm one of the negative nattering naybobs of natural selection, I'm sorry. I turned a corner on this team after the Packers punked us in the NFC Championship game in our own crib. (Note that jive talk I use to relate to the younger members here).

    Really, in everyday life - I don't know anybody who wants to talk about the Bears. I try and talk to people on the train about the Bears when I see them reading the trib about the Bears, but it's really bad form in Chicago to try and talk to people you don't know on the train when you are a regular. Chicago is an insular town in a lot of ways.

    This is the only place that wants to bitch and moan and cheer. If you want constant #16 Bears Fan sunshine, I can tell you from trolling it, that the Packers forum is full of dumb-as-shit cheeseheads who only see sunshine in their minds. Chicago fans are not like that.

    The press is uniformly against this team in this town, because Halas Hall made it clear they are at war with the press. Halas Hall spreads more disinformation than Ari Fleicher. So talk radio is a wasteland of haterz. Compared to there, this is a house of reason. Seriously, look around. Otherwise, I'm sure Ostermann's blog is cheery. It's got jack over there.

    If not, then hey - I wish you this:

  • A Dear John letter on the blog, c'mon man!

    There's still a lot of believers in the Bears. I don't know if I'm one of them (because of Lovie, not the team), but I imagine every fan base has serious doubts.

    Falcons. Yeah, we always win during the regular season, but have choked in the playoffs two years in a row.

    9ers. We tied and got beat by the Rams. The fucken RAMS. And got our ass handed to us by the Gmen.

    Cheeseheads. Our D can't stop shit. Everyone's injured. Our Oline is allowing sacks, hits and pressures at an alarming rate. We got owned by the Gmen.

    Gmen. We're ONE game ahead of the Cowboys. The fucking Cowboys. And Redskins, who just beat us 3-4 times in the last year, two of those lead by Sexy Rexy.

    So Bear doubts shouldn't surprise anyone. Debbie Downers are part of every fan base, but as someone told me long ago, you shouldn't stop going to church because of the sinners.

    It's Festivus, Johnny. That time of year for the airing of grievances, followed by feats of strengths!

  • Shane, come back!

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I loved that show as a kid.

    Bettcha didn't know he was gay?

    (not that there's anything wrong with that)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That's as wrong as two boys..well, never mind. But still, one of the best westerns of all time. I keep meaning to buy the DVD...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    just kidding.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    lol... you guys kill me. this is the best blog ever

  • Sorry, you can't be an optimist and quitter too. You've got to pick one.

  • Fuck off... you can't quit this shit. This is the best blog ever, and you are part of the reason why.

  • Does it ever feel to you like RG3, Kaepernick and Kumar are quarterbacks...from... the FUTURE? It's like they time warped back from 2030 to play a few games in 2012.

    It feels like we are entering the RG3 era; where Rodgers was kind of like a crossover - a way to ease our minds into this era where either your QB is mobile as hell and can break down defenses with his feet, or you lose.

    The old guard of stand up QBs like Brady and Manning isn't quite over yet, but it's feeling over. Slow QBs like Rapelessburger have been pounded down and only the fleet of foot willing to bootleg and read option the opposition to death will win.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Had the same thought cross my mind in the Randall Cunningham, Doug Flutie, Steve Young days...

    History is repeating itself.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    RG3 is going to get seriously injured in the first 3 years of his career. Mark it down. He takes way too many hits. God damn is he fun to watch though.

  • Shanny needs to address that offensive line desperately. He has an extra gear even compared to the option read guys (Kaepernick, etc) that we've seen.

  • I was thinking the next 3 games.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    People have been thinking that since Vick. Vick got all those endorsements cuz he was supposed to be the QB of the future.

    But the NFL is a stubborn formulaic sport. Pocket QBs win SBs, and until "running QBs" win some consistently, I don't think anything will change.

    Steve Young and Rodgers are the only "running QBs" in recent memory who have won SBs, and they were more hybrids who ran when the pocket broke down.

    Young also had to retire due to concussions, and Rogders already has had a few.

    I think we're going to see a lot more Lucks in the future. QBs with just enough speed to get first downs, not 80yd runs. Sorta like Jay.

  • AP has something like 970 rushing yards over the last 6 games. Ponder has under 900 passing yards over the last 6 games (And at least as many turnovers as TD). If I were Leslie Frazier, after watching what Wilson, Kaepernick and Cam were able to do against this Bears D I'd be taking a long look at surprise start or package with Joe Webb at QB. They'll probably just hope to get Ponder back on track, but it's gonna be hard to do that when Jarius Wright, a rookie with 2 games played, is probably their most effective wide receiver.

  • What in THEE fuck?!?!?!?

  • I hate to say this for the jinx factor alone, but ever since the first Packer game I've felt like the Bears are gonna take the Dec. 16 matchup. I envy you bastards who are going.

    As everyone here knows, FB is a game of inches. How many times in the last few games #6 played in have Marshall or Bennett or Davis dropped a sure TD? We all saw last weeks(which would've ended the game), I can recall a big drop by Marshall against Houston, and given time I could come up with several more. My point is that I think this offense is millimeters away from taking off and somethings gotta give. We should beat these Vikes just like we shoulda beat the Sea-chickens.

    I'm just ready to move on from last week, felt like that Falcons game in 08 when Orton hit Scrappy for a late TD and I was ecstatic, only to have my emotions swing sharply the other way after a big defensive meltdown.

  • In reply to ben in norcal:

    According to stats, Jay Cutler has receivers with the most drops. It seems in every game his guys have a big drop, whether it be Davis, Hester, Bennett or even Marshall (Stafford's receiving corp is #2 in drops)

    That's why getting Alshon back is big. I can only remember him dropping one pass all season. Even on the TD play where he injured his hand, he STILL caught it.

    The more baffling part is our inefficient run game. Forte and Bush look like they're running in tar. We need to get a more explosive violent HB back there to mix it up.

  • Aramando Allen?

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    He runs like a little cock-a-roach in tar, maing.

  • Waffle and fellow bears fans everywhere. I implore you to wait until the season is over to jump off the bears bandwagon, or in Johnny's case, Da Blog bandwagon.

    First, The Bears; We are in the midst of an era of relative NFL parity. Occasionally, we'll see a sucky team upset a good team. Or a good team flail against a bad team. That's because the dropoff between a quality team and a lesser team is small. Much of that dropoff, I believe, is the QB position. If a team has a talented quarterback, they always have a chance to win. Our team has that for the first time in my post-ten year old lifetime. But here's the thing, and this is what I love about the NFL. The only thing that matters for the first 17 weeks of a season, is getting into the playoffs. If a team can do that, and they have a qualtiy QB, they CAN surprise people all the way to the SB. So we cannot continually jump of the proverbial cliff everytime we lose. Just like we can't (as I did) predict a SB championship based on a few early season dominant efforts. The season is too long and too violent to ever truly know how it's going to turn out. The Giants shouldn't have won either of their recent SB's. They were 5 or 6 seeds playing against the best QB of this era. But they did it. The Cardinals came seconds away from beating the Steelers entering the playoffs as 6th seed. The fucking Cardinals! The Packers won as a sixth seed. What do all of these teams have in common? Great QB's. Now. I'm not ready to call Cutty great yet, but we all know he's better than his reputation. And with Marshall there's no telling how well he COULD play in the postseason. Let me be clear. I am not predicting anything. But the joy of a season is in the trying. And look, I get the defense mechanism of not getting your hopes up to the point of complete heartbreaking dissapointment as in the 2010 season. But I for one, will not commit suicide just because a deranged lunatic has a gun to my head and may end up killing me. What purpose does that serve? So here's the long and short of it. We DO have a very good QB. We have arguably the best WR in the league right now. We have a pair of Running backs who, when used properly, can perform with the best of them. We have a turnover crazy, veteran, tough, savvy defense. Sure, we have injuries, but who doesn't? We have the best returner and best special team coach in the game, and while neither have done much this season to make me expect much from them, we'd be crazy to give up on them given their track records. Do we have flaws? Sure. Do we have injuries? Absolutely. Who doesn't? But we have a team tied at the top of the division after 13 weeks. That means we still have a chance. And our team DOES have championship caliber players on it's roster: Cutty, Marsh, Forte, Briggs, Peanut, Peppers, Melton, Hester (sometimes). Jennings will be back. Urlacher WILL be back. And goddamn it. We still have a legitimate shot. So let's stay the course and see this thing through. This is not the NBA where you know at the beginning of the season it's going to be one of three or four teams vying for the title every season. It's the motherfucking NFL and we're still alive goddamn it.

    The blog. Johnny, I'm with you on the frustration of the prevalence of chicken little's on this blog and on the airways. That is precisely why we need you to stay. Hope is all we ever have, and if you leave, there's one less optimist to balance the scales in the favor of hope. Plus, this blog has always been about much more than football. Da Blog is a virtual Cheers of sorts, where everybody knows your moniker. Christ, you change yours more often than I change my underwear and we still know who you are. This blog is a place where people like me who don't live among fellow fans can get their bears fix. It's a place to discuss current events, politics, hot knockers, religion, economics, hot knockers, sports of all varieties, funny stories like when Crown used to get laid by various women and we married men lived vicariously, hot knockers. Where Coach can lower the bar with his tasteless sense of humor and we're all the better for it. Where we can "learn" about american conspiracies from Irishmen living in Thailand. Where we can get to know total strangers to a point of flying halfway across the country for a weekend of drunken debaucherous tail chasing. I don't feel like I have much value to add of late, but I still come to at least exchange high fives after a win and throw down a shot after a loss.

    Can you imagine, if you were playing your ass off in a dangerous game, giving all you have for a championship, and the very fans you play for have already given up on you? God that would suck. Athletes who play for the best franchise in sports history deserve better than that. We witnessed some of the best in the history of the sport play their hall of fame asses off with that tough Chicago Bear never say die attitude even when they had to know that the team they were playing for had no chance at championship (Payton, Butkus...). This team does have a chance at a championship. And half of the fans have already quit. We should be fans the way Walter Payton ran the football. Fuck the naysayers, fuck the "better" teams, fuck them all. We just put our head down and batter for that extra yard, regardless of probabilities. Payton deserves that. Butkus deserves that. Halas deserves that. But mostly, the warriors who sacrifice their bodies and future health for the team we all love so much deserve that.

    Maybe it's because I grew up in the Rocky generation, but I refuse to ever give up, no matter how improbable. I plan on willing this team to the Lombardi.

    Now who's fucking with me?

  • Fucking A, Cotton!


  • me

    (btw, when do you get in on friday? Where are we meeting?)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'll have to check but it's a few hours before our flight leaves for Chi. I'll just meet you at the airport and "we'll go from there".

  • Which airline/airport are you guys coming in from?
    You're expecting to hit O'Hare at 9ish, right?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:


    flight from San Diego > Minneapolis - St Paul > ORD

    arrive at 9:01 PM

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    oh, and delta

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I am flying US Airways, should be coming in from Philly, and hit O'Hare at 5:20.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    ok, where do you want to meet? Hotel?

    We'll take a cab straight there. Maybe be there by 9:35ish?

    They have a good bar in the lobby... I expect you to have lined up a few ladies by the time we get there

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I can give it a shot...we'll see if I make it out of the airport first.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    hahahahaha... if you want to wait for us, we can do that too.

    Just stand by the arriving flights and pick off the hot ones.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    OK, now I'm tempted to check limo prices from the airport.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Bang fucking Bang!

    Yes! do that shit.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    An even Hundy gets us a stretch with a dry bar.

  • If the Green Bay Packers didn't give up when half of their team was on IR, a mediocre record of 10-6, and they were the sixth seed in the playoffs ...

    I don't see why anyone else on here would give up.

    Great post Doc.

  • +100

  • Preach!

  • Great work Doc!! I almost started to cry.

  • Great post Doc. Johnny, don't leave. Love your posts maing.

  • Awesome Doc - you go, boy!

    "Christ, you change yours more often than I change my underwear and we still know who you are. "


  • Today marks Day one of legal possession of marijuana in Washington.

    Finally, some progress in this nonsensical backwards world.

  • Pot is legalized in Colorado, and Manning immediately buys into 31 Papa John franchises in Colorado.

    Manning is a smart guy.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    no shit on that

  • I'll smoke a bowl, or better yet a bong, in honor of that.

  • btw, will gay got KNCKED THE FUCK OUT in that vid

  • And here's one thing I don't get about our D "getting old"

    Paea, Wright, Conte, Roach, Jennings, D.J., Melton, Shea, Wooten are YOUNG.

    The only "Old" guys are Pepp, Izzy Peanut, Lach and Briggs, and we no longer have to worry about Lach, Briggs isn't all that old, and Peanut is playing at a PB level, so I'm not sure I get this "Old and tired D" crap.

    Pepp is the only one who looks old out there, but if it gets late in the game, there's no reason why we can't put Woot in. Same with Izzy (put in Shea).

    We got a shit load of Dlinemen exactly for this reason. WTF!

    If the D wants to rest, STOP SOMEBODY and get off the damn field!

  • And Pep didn't look very old when he bullrushed the left guard right into the cheap seats last Sunday either.
    He just looks slower with the foot injury this year.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I think that's what it is, just a bunch of nagging injuries which hurt a "speed" D more than it should.

    Not having Conte out there in the last game actually hurt us because his speed and youth would've come in handy against Kumar, esp late in the game. If he were back there, he prob would've caught that int Wright dropped.

    If I were the Bears, I would seriously use the Wooten-Collins/Paea-Melton-Shea youth line A LOT in these last 4 games, esp if we clinch a playoff spot.

  • + on the Conte thing. He is the best safety we've had in a while, especially in the *tackling* department. And I know some of you disagree, but that is THE number one job of a safety I mean, where do you think the name of the position comes from?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    They all wear a cup?

  • hey Shady:

  • This is for our first 2013 (and second and next year's first and 3rd) draft pick:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    1) Probably need at least one more 1st and 2nd to move high enough.
    2) Still probably wouldn't be able to trade that far up.
    3) What happened to OL OL OL OL OL?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    This guy, on the other hand, might fall right into our laps. Alec Ogletree - like Lach, he's a converted safety. He's got all the coverage skills; just needs to get a little bigger to match up on the run against top talent.

    Had a failed drug test for what looks like pot brownies over spring break. Otherwise he's got a clean record. If we bring him in with our first, or possibly even trade out of the first and grab him, he could take 3rd downs at MLB and spell Lach for a swan song season. He might even be ready to start right away if Lach retires - just needs the pro level conditioning.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    6'3" 240 isn't tooo undersized. but he's only a sophomore this year... and then there's this:

    40 Low: 4.63 40 Time: 4.76 40 High: 4.87

    4.9!?!?!? Holy sheite muslim! Lach was a 4.4 coming out of college. That's what made him who he is... this kid is sl.. owe.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Ha! This is WAAAAAAY too early to even been thinking about… but why the hell not.

    So to your point from earlier this year... are there going to be any truly good/great OT prospects that look like 10+ year franchise starters in the draft worth moving up for (cause that’s definitely what teo is looking like)? How is FA shaping up (someone posted a link a couple threads ago)?

    Let's look at what we absolutely need next year NB…

    • Top half of league, multi-year LT starter
    • Top half of league, multi-year RT starter
    • A good center to take over for old-balls
    • A couple second-tier (but good) guys for back up depth

    Other Critical Positions (in order of importance):
    • Lach’s replacement (it’s NOT going to be chicken dinner)
    • At LEAST one decent TE (that can block AND catch). And hopefully E-rod can come into his own a bit next year
    • I still maintain that Conte is not the answer and we need a franchise, bad-ass FS
    • You can never have enough corners in the NFL
    • New back up QB… although I don’t think Campbell’s performances this year have done anything to improve his market value… maybe we keep him?

    So there it is... boiling it down even further, this is what we HAVE to have to just be complete next year… LT, RT, IMLB. In that order.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, I agree with you that we have to make about five signings to fill all the key holes, including at least 3 starters. But that's a pretty standard off-season. The trick is, we can't break the bank on any one player - that's how teams turn aweful. You overcommit to a guy, it doesn't work out, you've used all your chips and can't get together a plan B.

    I'll post my suggestion a bit lower down since we seem to be talking draft tonight.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    We need to move up in the draft and get one of these guys.

    I know, the highlights aren't as sexy, but we gots to.

  • Damn, wrong link, though Rocky wouldn't be bad.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Just like I wanted Kuechly (who, by the way, I bet ends up better than T'eo), this aint happening

  • @mikecwright
    Earl Bennett officially declared out for Sunday. Tim Jennings' status still uncertain but doubt he plays.

  • man we are so banged up. Sup Erik? How's things on the left coast?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Pretty awesome. I just wish I had a better job. Going from 18.65 an hour to 8.95 an hour sucks.

    But, we are not paying into anything or owe anyone anything. Thus, all the money I make blogging and working goes into savings.

  • Attaboy, Artoo - you're young; make sure you invest that shit...wisely.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    oh yeah, and don't forget to have fucking fun too maings.

    you only go around once and you caint take that shit wiff you.

  • - LT Luke Joeckel

    Best LT prospect since Joe Thomas. Better, younger, healthier and CHEAPER than Long (though it'll cost us draft picks to move up to the top 5. Most likely this year and next year's 1st and a second and 4rth)

    - RT Jake Matthews

    Might fall to the teens, so a little more doable. But then, who's our LT?

    - LT Long FA

    The Fins are estimated to have about $50M in cap room next year, which is more than enough to franchise Long even at $15M. Long has been injured and not as dominating the last two years, so this move (if even possible) is riskier.

    - LT/RT Albert (from Chiefs)

    I can see the Bears going the cheaper route here. Albert is a decent LT, though some think he would be a better RT. Either way, he'd be an upgrade.

  • so what do you think we do to replace lach?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's weird, but because the HB position has been so diminished as of late, the MLB position has taken a hit too, and it's easier to get a quality MLB in FA than it used to be.

    I think we can get a quality 26ish MLB through FA for cheap (esp for a Cover 2). Look at how the Eagles got DeMeco Ryans for a 4rth.

    It really all depends in what philosophy Emery takes. If in 2013 Emery decides they're still in SB mode, then the FA route sounds best.

    But if Emery decides to exorcise all the JA ghosts, then a MLB in the first 3 rounds seems very likely.

    However, if Emery does decide to blow things up, I'd still prefer moving up for a franchise LT before MLB.

    There's some good MLBs that can be had beyond the 1st round this year. Every team will be drafting blitzing OLBs, except us.

  • good points

  • Putting things in perspective, in 2012:
    The Browns (who overpaid) gave a 4th, 5th and 7th to move from #4 to #3.
    The Cowboys threw in a 2nd rounder to move from 14th to 6th.
    The Eagles gave a 4th and 6th to move up from 15th to 12th.
    The Patriots gave a 1st and a 3rd to move from 27th to 21st.

    Let's assume the Bears lose in the first round of the playoffs. So they pick around 21st. Joeckel is a top 5 pick. So we need to get from 21st to 5th (probably the most generous spread I can give).

    From 21st to 15th (6 spots) would probably cost more than the 3rd the Pats gave to move 6 lower down. We don't have a 3rd, so we trade give our 4th, 5th and 6th.

    From 15th to 7th (Cowboys went 14 to 6) it costs a 2nd. Call that even.

    Now you've got to get from 7th to 5th. Except you've got no picks left because the Bears traded their 3rd for Marshall and their 7th for Brian Price.

    In short, we're not getting Joeckel unless the guy gets injured or suspended between now and the draft.


    I can't stop staring at those stars for some reason.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I wouldn't mind motorboating those stars one bit.

  • 100%. man she's got huge tits.

    She's crazy as a fucking loon, but hey...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    crazy in the head, crazy in the bed.

    learned that truism long ago.

  • hahahahaha... I need to test that theory and report back with my thesis.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I have tested the hypothesis many times over to the point were it has become as much a theory as the 3rd law of nuclear dynamics...but feel free to confirm my findings!

    Also, for you young whippersappers, why you shouldn't get pusswhipped.


  • you planning on coming down to SD anytime $? We should grab a beer.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You know, I was down there about 2 months ago, but it was sort of a last minute thing.

    My step-bro actually lives down there now, and I think still owns a boat, so one of these days maybe we can all ride his boat and drink some beers.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    sounds good maings... I did some water skiing/skurfing/wakeboarding in my day. I'm in. Just let me know.

  • Kids, trust old Uncle Butch on this one. He's absolutely correct....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm sorry but if we're keeping score, fake doesn't count...

  • I know it's wwwaaaay too early for this, but for those curious, here's a decent 2013 mock draft (naturally, some combine freaks will sneak in and change everything).

  • First... 27th!?! Texas Falcons SB? Fuck them.

    Second... another fucking DE!?!?!?!?!?!

    I will personally beat emery to within an inch of his life if he tries that. Holy shit. my fucking head will explode.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah, we're DEFINITELY not drafting another Dlinemen in the 1st, unless Melton asks for Suh mula.

    I can totally see us drafting an Olinemen (pick one) or TE Tyler Eifert, or Ertz who are 6-6 250 studs who would make Cutler more potent than Thai hooker on E.

  • always check for a penis first $, always.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Which reminds me of something that happened to a friend of mine. I'll save it for the off-season...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    definitely gotta tell us that one tobi

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Man, I must have been out of the game for a long time if that's part of the pre-flight checklist now.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    in thailand... ALWAYS.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Good point.
    I'm springing for a trip to Europe way before I roll the dice in Bangkok. Not my type of party.

  • Norv Turner for Bears OC?

  • Might be a bit strange for everybody after we got rid of his brother twice...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Under Tice, I think we're ranked 30th overall on O, and 32nd in passing.

    I think EITHER Turner would be preferable to that. Holy shit, man.

    I'll take Ike Turner at this point. Maybe he can slap Davis around.

  • I hate to mention his name but Mike Martz might havehad better numbers as well. Of course, there was some serious intervention...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Actually, I think Ike passed a couple years back. But TIna is still available....

  • That shit is funny as hell 4ever. 'Proud Mary' would be a good nickname for Davis.

  • hee hee

    For the sake of all my charger fan buddies... I hope they add rivers to that list. Shitbird.

  • Butch's way too premature plans for 2013

    1. If Lovie wins a SB, then and ONLY then, will he be retained.

    2. Anything short of a SB, and he's out.

    3. Hire Cowher. No, Cowher, fine. I don't want Reid who is basically the Eagle's version of Lovie.

    4. Promote Toub to H.C. Keep Marinelli as D.C. Demote Tice back to Oline coach. Hire Norve Turner to O.C.

    5. Move up the draft and get LTJoeckel. Period. end of story.

    6. In FA sign TE Keller. He put up numbers with Dirty Sanchize chucking him the ball.

    7. In FA sign a vet MLB who's familiar with the cover2.

    8. Use rest of draft to get a starting C and depth at LB, WR, CB.

    9. Win SB in ass stunning manner.

  • I REALLY like #4. In fact, i think I prefer it to #3. I could see Cowher fitting in but I'll bet he'd be expensive both in terms of money and control. Also, I don't think it's the Bears' style to hire someone else's former HC as theit HC. I don't think that they've ever done it before. At least not in modern Bears history...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Ditto - I want to see them give Toub a shot before anyone outside.

  • Did I miss something in your math here. Joeckel, who is expected to be drafted in the top 4 is a target for you? And you also want a starting C, plus a LB, WR and CB? We only have 5 picks this year.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    No, Joeckel + a starting C, and add some depth at LB, WR, or CB, whichever is BPA with whatever draft picks we have left.

    We'll definitely have at least 3 picks, so Joeckel, a C + BPA (in those areas).

    If we can't find a gem C in the later rounds (not unusual), then Garza or Ed Willimas should be OK for one more year, esp with Joekel at LT, Carmi at G, and Webb at RT.

  • I will go on record to say that if the Bears fire Tice and go after another Offensive Coordinator two things will happen.

    1. The Bears offense will be back at square one again and it will take time to develop.

    2. The Bears will waste another year of Forte, Cutler, and Marshall who all seem to be in their prime.

    The only way I am okay with Norv Turner being brought on as a offensive coordinator is if we keep Jeremy Bates.

  • I'm fine with keeping Bates.

    Square one under Norv would still be better than 30th on O, 32nd in passing.

    And I'm sure the 1st 10 pages of Norv's playbook would be all throws to Marshall.

    He had Tomlison too, so he knows how to use pass catching HBs.

    And obviously knows how to use TEs (Gates).

  • I would have to think Mike Tice knows how to use Tight Ends given his background. Having Gates makes Turner look pretty smart on that front. Turner is an abject failure given the talent he's had and what he's done with it. He's in the same group with Mike Martz for me. Martz was deemed a genius. My neighbors cat could win ball games with Faulk, Warner, Bruce, Holt, Pace et al. No thanks to all of them. I'm wondering if Bates has the chops or not to be an OC if he's got Cutler and Marshall.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    That's a valid point about Norv. He won SBs with the Cowgirls, but HOFs all around. But maybe he's part of making them HOFs?

    Jimmy Johnson is a pretty good evaluator of talent, and if he trusted Norv to run his O, that speaks volume.

    Norv is used to having big WRs, a pass catching HB, and a gunslinging QB (and TEs). That just fits our team perfectly.

    I also don't know of any other available OCs. Chip Kelly? Cutler would die behind our Oline. McDaniels? No way. Reid would be OC.

    Bates is unproven, and I think he would be very pass heavy. It would be more of a gamble.

  • Reid WOULDN'T be an OC.

  • "Turner was the offensive coordinator with the Dallas Cowboys on Jimmy Johnson's staff when Dallas won back-to-back Super Bowls in 1992 and 1993. Turner got much of the credit for not only their success, but for helping shape quarterback Troy Aikman into a Hall of Fame player. Upon arriving in Dallas, Turner took over an offense that was dead last in the NFL in total yards averaging 255.1 yds/gm and scoring 15.2 pts/gm, his impact was immediate. In 1991 the offense jumped to 9th in total yds with 318.8/gm and scoring 21.4/gm, and 4th in 1992(350.4 yds/gm, 25.6 pts/gm) and 4th in 1993(350.9 yds/gm, 23.5 pts/gm)."


  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    That's a great point.

    Mike Martz and Norv Turner.

    What do they both have in common?

  • Norv doesn't live and die by 7 step drops.
    Norv allows audibles.
    Norv utilizes TEs.
    Norv believe in FBs.
    Norv runs the ball without being threatened...

  • Both were able to win SuperBowls with great talent and as Offensive coordinators.

    Since being a head coach, they haven't won anything in long time.

    Martz tried to be offensive coordinator again and it didn't work out. I don't know if taking a chance with Norv will be much different.

  • See below.

  • Well if Tice goes, what about Bates as OC? Don't know if he's eminently qualified but you'd at least have some continuity...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Ditto. ^

  • This dick gets paid $20,000,000 a year.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    wow, what a complete and utter asshole

  • Hey, Jared Allen. Be careful out there buddy.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    oh god... how about a fucking disclaimer man. Jesus.

  • In reply to MB30SD:


    [Disclaimer: Not Safe For Pussies]

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:


    In my sophomore year in college I suffered a double compound tib/fib fracture on the field.

    Since then, I can't look at that shit. turns my stomach.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I couldn't watch it either (at first). I kept seeing the gif by accident. Then I started watching it on purpose, because I thought (at first) that the Redskin who (unintentionally) clipped Locklear had a horse collar on Bradshaw. I eventually realized that he probably had Bradshaw by the arm and shoulder. By then I was immune to the horror, and started to watch the clip specifically to see the knee break.

    It's so amazingly fucked-up to see that much damage caused by an impact that seems fairly routine and unavoidable in the NFL. I mean, the Redskin's hits Locklear in the front upper-thigh.

  • Earl checked about after being concussed?

    And yeah, I agree with Crunch. Jared Allen should keep his head on a swivel.

    Lance was the best O-lineman the Bears had this year, and he always hustles his ass off. I would imagine that his teammates would be pretty eager to make Allen regret the cheap shot.

  • Bennett's ruled out:,0,6113212.story

  • Norv-v-Martz

    "Today the most famous and successful advocates of this system (Air Coryell) are Cam Cameron, Norv Turner, Mike Martz, Tom Moore and Al Saunders.

    Norv Turner learned the offense from longtime Coryell assistant, Ernie Zampese. As offensive coordinator with the Dallas Cowboys, Turner ran Coryell's offense a greater emphasis on sideline throws than the Chargers used.[20] Turner's take on the Coryell system turned around the career of Hall of Fame QB Troy Aikman and has proven to be very successful with talented high draft picks struggling with the complexities of the NFL, such as Alex Smith. Turner' variant is not the most robust flavor of Coryell offense. It is a very sound, QB friendly scheme that favors taking controlled chances, like quicker midrange post passes to WRs off play action rather than slower developing passes that leave QBs exposed. It is almost exclusively run out of the pro set. Turner favors a more limited palette of plays than Coryell and most other Coryell disciples, instead insisting on precise execution. His offenses are usually towards the top of the league standings, but are often labeled predictable. His offenses tend to include a strong running game, a #1 WR who can stretch the field and catch jump balls in the end-zone, a good receiving TE to attack the space the WRs create in the middle of the field and a FB who fills the role of a lead blocker and a final option as an outlet receiver. In Dallas, Turner made RB Emmitt Smith & WR Michael Irvin Hall of Famers, and TE Jay Novacek a five time pro bowler. As head coach of the San Diego Chargers, Turner's system helped quarterback Philip Rivers set new franchise records for single-season quarterback rating and touchdown passes in 2008.

    The Martz variant is a much more robust offense with a more complex playbook. It is a much more aggressive passing offense, frequently deploying pre-snap motion and shifts, with the run often forgotten. There is much less of a focus on play action. The Martz variant favors an elusive feature back who can catch the ball over the power runners the Turner scheme favors. Martz credits his influences on his variation of the offensive system to Sid Gillman and Don Coryell. Martz learned the so called 3 digit system the offense is famous for with how the plays are called from Turner when they were both in Washington. The Rams set a new NFL record for total offensive yards in 2000, with 7,335. 5,492 of those were passing yards, also a new NFL team record. Martz tends to favor a 3 WR set with more elusive players, a third receiver and the Half back filling the role of middle receivers that TEs & FBs fulfill in the Turner offense. The Martz offense works best with two elite WRs with top speed. Unlike the Turner variant, due to the complexity of the Martz offense, the QBs who execute it best are often the more intelligent QBs who intuitively get what Martz is trying to do, not the elite athlete whose team's personnel department might favor drafting with a high draft pick. Whether it is due to the personality of the coach or the nature of the scheme, the Martz variant has historically had problems when teams shut down the run and make the team one dimensional. Additionally, the QBs sometimes take a lot of hits in this system."

  • Keep in mind you want some "consistency" too, unless you want Jay and gang to learn a totally new scheme, again.

  • Sunday should be crazy. I went down to Madison a few times in the last two months and got a bunch of people agitated to protest at the Vikings game. I gave a few speeches organized by the Humanities Department at UW-Madison and got a lot of people involved in my crusade.

    We have four busloads of people heading to Minneapolis on Sunday to protest the team name "Vikings". About 20% of the protesters are of Scandinavian descent (Norwegian, Swedish, Danish) and the rest are professional protesters, mainly rich kids from the East Coast who couldn't get into an Ivy League School.

    The derogatory team name "Vikings" portrays the Scandinavian peoples as a violent culture. Sure, they were very successful at raping and pillaging Europe for a few centuries, but throughout most of history they have been a passive, peaceful, farming culture. I'm fed up with my ancestors being portrayed in this light. They should change their name to the Lakers or Farmers or something else.

    Hell, the Norwegians even came up with the Nobel Peace Prize, with such recent luminaries like Yasser Arafat, Al Gore, and Barack Obama.

    This assault on my ancestors has to end, and I will be in the vanguard this Sunday. I hope I have the support of some of my fellow bloggers.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I think you've been hitting the bong too hard.

    Didn't Noble create dynamite? Norwegians are inherently violent, even their peacemakers!

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Hah, my alma mater is named after one of the most violent monarchs of the 17th century AND is host to the Nobel conference.

    Only sadistic buggers like the Swedes would serve lutefisk to people they like!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    god that shit is nasty.. and what's the rotten shark called?

    what those people eat...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    And what puts it over the top for me is that the fucking shark is poisonous unless you ferment it.
    Pick something else to eat, you crazy bastards!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Lutefisk and Herring are nasty. Never wanted any part of it. Lefse with fresh berries is good shit. And morrel mushrooms is the spring.

  • My suggestion for the off-season.

    1) Trade out of the first round. This is a weak draft, there aren't any home run left tackles at the bottom of the first, we need to make up for the third we spent on Marshall. Trade down into the top of the 2nd round and ideally get another 2nd rounder.

    2) Draft Barrett Jones or Chase Thomas. Both project into the middle of the line, but both are worth giving reps at tackle and center as well.

    3) Let the rest of the league go after Ryan Clady for the big money. Bring in Jake Long at LT as the second, much more reasonably priced FA. If Long or Clady is franchised, start looking for a deal with Brandon Albert of the Chiefs. The key again is value, both Clady and Long can blow out a knee and tank our season if we overpay.

    4) Though 2012 had a few affordable prospects on the market, I don't see any great MLBs in 2013. Its possible Curtis Lofton will be released by the Saints if Vilma is secured as the MLB again. Its also possible Rey Maualuga will leave Cincy, but not likely. I imagine we will look to the draft for Lach - and I imagine 2013 will not be the year we see a star emerge.

    5) With our natural 2nd rounder we take a 2nd Olineman. Perhaps Alvin Bailey if he declares. If we miss on a FA tackle, we'll need to look at a tackle here. Otherwise, there should be some real quality for the interior. With two high picks plus Lance Louis, that should greatly improve the middle for Jay and Forte.

    6) We don't kill ourselves bringing in two new tackles. Just a new LT. I strongly believe that Carimi can improve into the position, or else JWebb can fill the easier spot or else one of our roster guys now (James Brown?) can step in. We need to try those guys out and focus elsewhere or we overspend.

    7) With our final high pick (remember we trade down, so we get our natural 2nd, our traded down first, and the trade compensation), we take someone to help the defense. Not sure who will look good - but we need depth pretty much anywhere on D. Ideally we'd take a MLB, but not sure if one will be available here.

    8) At TE, I'd take a serious look at Dustin Keller. He has some upside, will not be expensive, and will hopefully complete the offensive skill positions.

    9) We will then have a 4th, 5th and 6th. I would like to see Emery get one starter out of the bunch. Possibly a pass rushing specialist at DE. Possibly a MLB. Possibly a TE or WR.

    10) I would also like to see the Bears stay away from the QB position in the draft. Again, this is a weak class. We need depth on D. We need bodies on the offensive line. We don't need another QB. This off-season figures to have a lot of veteran QBs looking for work. It is very likely that we will be able to keep Campbell or possibly bring in someone like Kyle Orton or Matt Flynn that becomes available.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    The problem is that Clady is definitely getting franchised (Elway said as much), and the Fins have recently said the same about Long citing they have about 50M in cap room next year.

    Albert is solid, but I'm not sure how much of an upgrade he is over Webb at LT honestly. Some scouts think he's a better RT, in which case, we're back to Webb at LT.

    I don't mind trading down, but we won't be able to get a franchise LT unless something drastic happens (or Emery discovers a gem).

  • That's my whole point. Clady and Long will be off the list. That means every other team and their momma will be going after Albert.

    The Bears need to avoid overpaying..

  • Yeah, I'm thinking the same. That's why I would advocate that Julio Jones type trade for Joeckel.

    Because of the new salary cap for rooks, he'd be cheap too, and we can afford to go after FAs to win NOW.

    It'll cost us two 1st rounders, but two 1st rounders in the mid 20s and a 2nd/4rth for a Joe Thomas? Yeah, I think I would do that.

  • Are you sure he will fall enough for just two first rounders and a second?

    Because I am thinking more like three first round picks and two second picks,..

    If the Bears resign Melton back, get Cutler's long term deal done, and get Marshall's long term deal done then and only then will I be okay with this trade.

  • I think so. It might be a weak QB class, but some team ALWAYS moves up to get a QB.

    Geno Smith and Barkley are gonna go b4 Joekel.

    DT/DEs always are in the top 3, so Mingo/Lotululei will get picked b4 him.

    So by my estimation, Joeckle will be around 4 (Where Kalil and Julio Jones went).

    The Jones trade. two 1st rounders, a 2nd, and two 4rths.

    Hefty, but it's either that or another year of Webb at LT, or overpaying in FA.

  • Here's the hole in your plan.

    The Bears D is not young. They're not super old either, but they aren't young. And the injuries are starting to pile up. If we don't get more youth, next year December will look like this year in December.

    Nobody is saying the Bears will lose to Minny because of JWebb. Everyone is saying we will struggle (maybe not lose) because our D is injured, our O-line is injured, our WRs are injured.

    Emery is doing a good job so far. But we still need to build a lot more depth.

  • Here's another realistic Mock Draft 13

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    If Miami let's Jake Long go...

    I will personally think someone is trying to sabotage the Dolphins.

  • One thing to point out about the draft and free agency that you all know but I think we all forget how hard it is to acquire players.


    New Bear hit it on the spot about how much it is going to require the Bears to move up to get a solid prospect in the top 5. Just go ahead and think "Julio Jones" type of trade. That being said, it all depends on who could fall to the Bears and what the Bears plan to do in Free agency. There is no way the Bears will get a future Middle Linebacker, Left Tackle, or Center all in one draft. It could happen but I doubt it.

    The best and worst case scenario is that the Bears start to put more youth and develop future players in spots that are currently filled with pro-bowl players.

    Free Agency

    This is the toughest one to explain to people because the Bears went out and got Marshall. Plus, when the Bears wanted Peppers, they went out and got him too. I ask you though, how lucky are the Bears and how smart does Emery look for trading for Marshall? It will literally go down as one of the Dolphins dumbest trades ever. To get lucky next season in a trade like that? Emery must have someone at gunpoint to do something like that again.

    Oh, not only do you want that Left Tackle but so does every other team that doesn't have a Left Tackle. Thus, most teams that have the cap space will get the legitimate players. While the rest fight, overpay, and sign the mediocre players that are left. Look at the UFA's that were Left Tackles last year and how much teams overpaid for them. It makes you glad that the Bears didn't go after them to say the least.

    The best and worst case scenario is that the Bears are able to keep their own FA's that are good and avoid overspending on mediocre talent.

  • I forgot to metion this but I really expect the Bears to draft another Defensive End.

    Why? Peppers is not a young guy anymore with an injury that is hurting his play slightly this season.

    If the Bears get another defensive end that can become a future starter with Shea and Wooten. I can't be too upset about that. I do understand we need a Left Tackle but I don't see one falling to us through the Draft or Free Agency.

  • I think we either go out and get one or Jay will be gone of his own volition...and the rest of the D is young enough that I have no problem making one big dramatic trade up if the OL prospect is THAT good.
    We can find serviceable DE rush specialists in the 2nd-4th rounds.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I feel the same about teo IFF there isn't a LT prospect of the same calibure.

    and fuck yes, let's do the fucking limo baby.

  • Fuck this. Fuck all this goddamn draft bullshit. The fucking season ain't over!!

    And of all fuck thats, fuck me for participating.

    Bear Down, laddies, Bear Down

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Yeah, I know, but playing the Vikes 2 times in 3 wks leaves little to talk about.

    We know what we gotta do. Contain AP. Limit Rudolph.

    Run the ball. Throw to Marsh.

    It's like Ground Hog's Day.

    I am curious how Roach will do at MLB and Hayes at Strong, not to mention Hayden at CB - but I guess we'll find out soon enough.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Hahahaha - I'm sure we can move all the way up from 32nd to top 5, making all of this discussion relevant.
    No worries, Dave.

  • I need this:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    From one software guy to another...
    the QR code and "cloud" references...really? the fuck all does that have to do with coffee?

    BTW, the limo is booked. Your responsibility, and you will have the time to accomplish this between MPLS and O'Hare, is to find at least a minimum of two female occupants (weighing no more than 250 combined) to fill out the occupancy. I'd say three but Nitty, I'd hate to contribute to your delinquency. OK, four...two for both of us and I still have a clean conscience about Doc.

  • sheeesh, Jay put on some weight lately:

  • Uh oh.

    I think someone broke the blog again.

  • Semi fixed? The reply button is probably still F'd.

  • I'll close the italics tag


  • jesus you motherfuckers!!!! Someone call the gnome... turn on the Gnomesignal.

    Oh and Rabbit... Fuck yes! I will 100% have some participants... just remember that you'll be in the airport for a couple hrs before us, so my pool of possibles will come from our flight, which, if there are ANY even decent chicks will be riding home with us.

    You troll the arrival lounges right before we come in and see if you can round some up.

    Well done lad.

  • oh, and yeah, I know about the wifi in your coffee machine... so lame... I just want it for the manual pull down dispenser. so fucking awesome.

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