Chicago Bears at Arizona Cardinals Game Preview

Chicago Bears at Arizona Cardinals Game Preview

This is one of the most uninteresting game previews I've ever attempted to write. But I'm writing it anyway, for it is my duty.

WHY DO I LIKE THE CHICAGO BEARS THIS WEEK?

  • I always like the Chicago Bears.
  • I'm pretty sure Lovie Smith is aware he can't return to Chicago without winning this game. A loss to a porous Arizona Cardinals team would cause the entirety of the Bears fan base and the city of Chicago to scream for his head until Phil Emery provides it on a golden platter.
  • Did I mention I always like the Chicago Bears?

GOOD CHANCE WE SEE A SCORELESS FIRST HALF

Arizona may be one of the worst teams in football but they have a pretty darn good defense. They are capable of badgering the opposing quarterback and can be decently larcenous in the secondary. If Cutler and company are interested in turning the ball over Sunday the Cardinals defense will certainly oblige.

And I don't care which of the roster buffoons Ken Whisenhunt starts at quarterback. Neither Ryan Lindley nor John Skelton are capable of displaying the type of mid-range accuracy required to beat the Bears defense on a lengthy drive. Unless Beanie Wells goes off for 150+ the Cardinals will need to win this game on the other side of the ball.

THIS IS KURT WARNER DRAWING GOD (SERIOUSLY)

FIVE THINGS I THINK THE BEARS WILL DO SUNDAY

  1. I think Julius Peppers and Corey Wootton will harass the terrible tackles for the Arizona Cardinals and force Lindley into check downs and throw-aways when he's not being hit. (And if Henry Melton plays I expect the same from him.)
  2. I think the Bears will muster nothing in the realm of a running game.
  3. I think this fella will be the most important player in the game: "David Michael Zastudil (born October 26, 1978 in Bay Village, Ohio) is an American football punter for the Arizona Cardinals of the National Football League."
  4. I think Adam Podlesh will be the second most important player.
  5. I think I'll be surprised if there less than four interceptions thrown total in this game.

THRIVE/SURVIVE

  • Thrive:  He's only be a Chicago Bear for two weeks but I think Olindo Mare is going to have a fine game in the desert. With yardage hard to come by the Bears will be relying on their kicker.
  • Survive: After being manhandled by the officials against the Green Bay Packers Alshon Jeffery needs a comeback game. Jay Cutler clearly has confidence in his abilities and I expect 7-10 targets. He needs to catch those balls without extending his arms to push off the defenders.

PREDICTION

I think it will be the least watchable game of the 2012 campaign. And I'm going to predict the only touchdown wins the game.

Chicago Bears 13, Arizona Cardinals 9

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  • How do we win this on the road? Can we even field five guys to dress for the line?

  • Damn you.

  • In reply to Viva:

    sometime the truth hurts viva my man.

  • Obviously because they won't get booed.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I need a like button.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    please no.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Road Bear fans are probably a lot more cheerful since they don't get a chance to see Lovie blow timeouts in person often.

  • I kept waiting for him to challenge something, anything, this last game...and nope.
    I think someone stapled the hankie to his pants lining while he was doped up on Nyquil.

  • I just noticed the video of Kurt Warner drawing God. Jesus.

  • yes, jesus... I think that's his point.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    LOL. Sorry, Canada. :)

  • In reply to bearsfanatic:

    You guys crack me up.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    YGCMU

    There you go, Canada.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    leave my man the lord out of this lolol

    god bless all

  • First to say that a predictable team will lose more games to inferior and equally talented teams than they will win.

  • Second to say I think we'll need Jesus on the Offensive Line this week and Kurt Warner is a horrible drawer! I've seen 3rd graders draw a better Jesus.

    Bears 17
    Cardinals 10

    Bear Down!

  • In reply to Bears-4-Ever:

    My toaster draws a better Jesus.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Funny. If I were to try to draw Jesus, it would probably end up looking like burnt toast.

  • Hey Cor, your uncle should get the MVT award (most valuable tailgater). Man what a tough nut! There's no way in hell I would have left the house feeling like that. Too bad you didn't connect with the other guys. It would have made a shitty game a little more fun. Hope we rise to the challenge this week.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Thanks Canada.

  • The evidence to date suggests that the Bears are a middle of the pack team that can beat the bottom-feeders, are competitive with teams on their own level, and consistently lose to "good" teams.

    I fully expect that trend to continue this week.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Totally agree. Hopefully AZ falls in the first category.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    We get ALL the Cardinal games out here. They can't win unless the other team is very generous and last week, Matt Stafford should have come dressed as Santa Claus.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    They trounced the Lions 38-10 last week. Could we do that with a zero effort offensive line?

  • I think Emery has 2 choices. Fire Lovie or give him a 1-2 year extension. If we get into the playoffs I think Lovie gets the short extension. If we get in and run the table (extremely unlikely) the extension goes to 3-4 years. If we miss the playoffs, it's bye-bye Lovie.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Emery needs to sit down and make it very clear to Lovie that he needs to win at least one playoff game to have any prayer of keeping his job. Maybe Lovie will wake up and try to game-plan to win the game instead of trying to keep it vaguely close and hoping for a defensive/special-teams miracle at some point.

    I seriously doubt Lovie's actually capable of that. though.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    MIKE TICE HAS TO GO GIVE THE JOB TO BATES AND MAKE ALL HAPPY BYE BYE MIKEY MIKE

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    You're probably right. I think he shouldn't return unless we win it all, because even if we get in, it will have required help from other teams, which is ridiculous considering our 7-1 start. I'm still livid that he wouldn't acknowledge GB as a must win. You can't depend on others for your job security!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    If you're Phil Emery, aren't really looking for a decent excuse to bring your own guy in?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    If Emery is the right guy for the job, yes. If he isn't, he might be totally OK with the status quo. I don't dislike Lovie and if we make the playoffs Emery will probably take the easy way out and give him short extension. Reminds me of the miracle season under Jauron that led to an ill-fated extension.

  • How about giving Joe Anderson a shot? And like I proposed before, bring the honey bears back!

  • In reply to OsosFan:

    As long as Virginia is alive there will be no more Honey Bears. Not sure what happens after she passes (on a lot of Bears related fronts).

  • In reply to OsosFan:

    Two gold stars. Joe in the slot, honeys on my snot.

  • what is wrong with earl? Is he going to be out again?

    How in THEE hell do we not crush people with:
    * Cutty
    * Marshall
    * Jeffery
    * Bennet
    * Forte
    * Bell (Bush was a much bigger punch, but Bell ain't bad for a 1-2)
    * Hester used creatively and intelligently on NON-obvious and smart screens, hitches, quasi-trick plays

    Oh... oh yeah... Mike tice is our fucking OC. Never mind.

    Fuck.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    We've all been shaking our heads all year on this.

    But it would, of course, help to have an offensive line on the field with them.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That HUGE factor, and on top of that we have garbage for an o-line. I know Rodgers doesn't have an o-line, either, but Cutty is no Rodgers. He needs more help, both with smart play-calling and better protection.

  • In reply to bearsfanatic:

    not many people are Rodgers but Rodgers also not only has a great system and weapons, he has YEARS in the same system. YEARS of continuity in the same system. He could run that offense in his sleep and so could his plug and play weapons.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    mb30sd i have been screaming the same thing do what ido smoke joint lolol

  • If Bennett is hurt, put Anderson in, let them.see him play his aggresive style and see what happens. Hopefully Emery deals with Tice in the off-season. Space Mountain!

  • In reply to OsosFan:

    Are you Joe Anderson? You are, arent ya?

  • Did you say "Aggressive"? Uh-oh. I think a Zebra just flagged him for OPI already. And from only 1 timezone away!

  • Hahaha. I will stop mentioning him. How about Evan Rodriguez?!

  • http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/357412-briggs-nobody-booed-more-at-home-than-bears

    Artoo... send some tweets to these guys. I DEFINITIVELY know that 99.9% of the fans were booing lovie and tice's idiotic moves at the end of the 2nd and 4th quarters, NOT the players.

    Let them know that it has nothing to do with them.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    exactly Briggsy... the McCaskeys and lovie are case and point

    "but everyone in Chicago doesn't know how to run a football team."

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I dont think Briggs is paying attention to other fans in other stadiums. No one boos more than Philly fans. Jets fans give it out pretty good. Chicagoans are the most patient fans, this is the home of the Cubs. We can take losing if you give us great effort and throw in some heart and emotion. Back in the day of lots of losing, we took great pride in the fact that the team we lost to, usually lost the following week due to the fact that we physically made them pay a price for the win. We have a head coach that shows zero emotion or disgust at losing. We have an OC that has no clue how to attack a decent opposing defense. We have kick returners and receivers that hit the ground at the sound of footsteps. We have a running back we paid huge dollars to that has 2 games with 100 yards rushing. You will never be booed in Chicago if you give a great effort and just act like you fucking care!

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    I approve this message

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    I think the players feel like it's directed at them (how could they not) when most of it is directed at the coaches/mgmt. I do think there is way more booing going on in Soldier Field now vs the old days. Part of that is less civility in society in general and partly due to sports talk radio/TV. When you see shows on ESPN where the whole reason for the show to exist is having people yell at each other, that just throws red meat to the foaming mouth breathers. We get a couple of those types on here on game day. They add nothing but negative rants and boorish behavior. Very tiresome.

    When you bring up the Cubs it's the same deal. I used to go to a ton of games back in the '70's. It was $1.50 to sit in the bleachers and a 20 oz beer was a $1.00. The only time the home team got booed was for lack of effort. Now the Flubs get booed early and often. I'm sure some of it is the money people pay but mostly it's the same BS sports climate.

    One last thing, this doesn't apply to any of the regulars or semi-regulars on this blog but Chicago has some of the dumbest fans on the planet.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I dunno, CB - I'm pretty dumb.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I'd argue that point.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Thanks maing; however, there is a large contingent of women I've known that would back me up.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    If I ever become famous, I will promote this blog like crazy. If only some of the players could read this blog........ Anywho, you guys are ridiculously informative and insightful. Thanks!

  • In reply to OsosFan:

    Totally agree. That's why I hang out here all the time. Other than the occasional troll or neanderthal, this is the most informative place for Bears talk. There's lots of back and forth but it's usually civil and almost always entertaining. Game days can get a little dicey due to the passion but most people understand that and are respectful of the other posters. That's almost unheard of on other sports blogs.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Passion and beer. Lots and lots of Beer.

    I wasn't around with Sexy Rexy.

    I can only imagine how those game threads went.

    I just screamed at the T.V. mostly.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Listen man i live here in nyc i live in the bronx. To boo the defense on this team is outright stupid, but this offense with all this talent should we be kickin the hell out of people. The problem is in the OL line and you can see on my past writings i thought this OL was gonna surprise all this year i have been a big supporter well i was wrong they stink all the here to the bronx lolol and Mike Tice has to go no so much as lovie give the job to bates.

    frank deleo
    bronx ny

  • Finally getting around to this...

    Had an awesome trip to Chicago, minus a win over the Packers.

    Friday night - hahahaha....well, my first introduction to Nitty and 30 was seeing two guys with Ditka moustaches coming down the escalator, Rain Main-style, to the baggage claim area. It was hard to miss them. We then proceeded to hit the limo, check in, and head out for drinks. I learned that in Chicago on a Friday night, sneakers (even awesome ones like the reeboks I was wearing) are fucking grounds for not getting in to pretentious ass clubs with 8 and 9's in their best Macy's off-shelf glitter dresses. After too many vodka-tonics, there were several stories to be told...but to protect the innocent, I won't detail them here.
    Saturday morning - The Nitty, 30 and myself hit up Lou Mitchell's for breakfast and had kick-ass omelettes and home fries. Next up, I tried not to pass out going up the elevator in the Sears Tower (I have a fear of heights - fuck off). 30 did his best to ensure I crapped my pants for which I will be eternally thankful.
    Saturday afternoon - Portillos with the guys AND the elusive Shady Nuggets...who granted me the gift of a pestilential Bears scarve, and the best backhanded compliment ever. Sorry I was so hung over - that was 30's fault.
    Saturday night - Ditkas....Waffle, 30, Nitty, Murph...what a great meal with some of the best Bears fans on the planet. I think Murph covered it better than I ever could.
    And to all of the guys who chipped in to cover us, wow, what a gesture. I think it's unbelievably kind of you guys and I hope to get the chance to repay you someday. For those who were not there, get thee to the draft party in April.
    Sunday - well, the Bears may have lost, but a day spent at Soldier Field in the company of family and friends is better than a day doing much of anything else. I'm pretty sure we walked four miles to find dinner...which was good after scarfing down shit stadium food for four hours.
    30 and Nitty - it was awesome. Thanks so much for everything, guys.

    BTW - Bears play Skins in DC next year, and I will be happy to play host for anyone that wants to come out to the East Coast...hopefully the game is early enough in the season that it's still beach weather.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Well said, Rabbit.

    I put up a summary of a different sort towards the end of sunday's game thread. But I'd like to add one thing to it here.

    Being a bears fan on the west coast, I haven't had much of a chance to talk bears with people. Not without the typical Cutler blasts or Bears Suck jab. Without a doubt, my favorite part of the weekend was the bears camaraderie I felt the whole weekend. But especially at Ditka's Saturday night. 6 bears fans sitting around a table, getting fed, getting drunk, getting paid (by Tobi and Mike V) discussing the beloved. THAT was just too cool for me. Somebody asked each person to share their favorite bears moment; The Hester SB TD, Mike Brown's 9er game interception in OT, the arizona game.... Somebody else asking each person to name their favorite bears Player not named Walter Payton; Peanut, Mongo, Sayers, Mike Brown,...It's the image I'll have when I reflect on that awesome weekend.

    Murph, an old timer with a thick Chicago accent and balls the size of cantaloupes, sharing bears stories from years past.

    Waffle, sheer drunken hilarity, bears related or otherwise. "WHAT?".

    MB's buddy, whose sure to become a blog regular, telling tales of the time he kind of met Ditka, who showed up in pajamas looking disgruntled, apparently.

    MB and rabbit, throughout the weekend, bears, bears, bears and a little late night politics with a very intelligent and articulate rabbit.

    Earlier in the day with Shady Nuggets, whose voice is actually skinnier than I figured it would be.

    And of course, the time spent with MB on planes and in San Diego. A very gracious host whose hospitality I won't soon forget.

    But yeah, just the ability to discuss the beloved any time I want without receiving looks of "here we go about the bears again", and "Cutler sucks". Although, MB made sure to emphasize his disdain for the current regime (sans Toub) with usual regularity.

    What a great weekend. Thanks everybody.

  • Yep - MB was the ringleader for sure. Great guy.

    And was fun talking politics with you without my usual blog filter on, Nitty. Catch you on PS3 soon.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I would love to talk politics with you sometime. We could actually cover more ground in 30 minutes then arguing all night on the blog.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I feel likewise, Corm..

  • I really miss that Chicago accent. Down here in South Florida it's all New Yawk and Baaston. I remember when I was living in NYC in the 90s, tuning into Law & Order just to hear to Dennis Farina (Det. Joe Fontana). He actually was a Chicago copper (and the Chicago copper accent is a distinct subset of the normal Chicago accent). I'm pretty sure all the guys in the original SNL Da Bears skits were all originally from Chicago (I know George Wendt and Joe Montegna are). It's that flat A. Everyone in New York knew exactly where I was from after my first sentence....

  • For some reason, for listening to Warner's old ass talk about his drawing, I thought it would be worthwhile at the end. What a cock-tease.

    All I hope for in the next two games are health to the players, and a few 2nd and 3rd stringers to show they can stay on the team. Players like Allen, not Davis' wretched self. Hopefully, a stud shows up filling in for one of the hurt defensive players....

  • In reply to Scharfinator:

    I thought roach and costanzo did a bang up job in that game. For as much as we make fun of him, I was pretty impressed with old nick roach I have to admit.

  • btw, I don't want to crack open a huge debate, but I have an idea for gun control...

    Every single fucking person who now owns, and who every tries to own, a gun in this country needs to have a full historic mental health background screening done... and if there isn't anything already on the books, they need to go through a complete psych eval first (at their own expense... owning a gun should be a privilege - and keep in mind that I am a gun owner). If there is ANYTHING that comes up strange in their history or eval, they should not be allowed to own a gun and should be put into the system as someone who tried to get one legally.

    I haven't thought through ANY of the logistics of this proposal, or thought through the solution for stopping them getting one on the black market… I just know that sane, normal people do not usually go on killing rampages. People should 100% be allowed to own guns, but there has to be a better system for weeding out the fucking psychopaths and mentally ill without crushing the poorly interpreted right to bear arms.

    What's your take viva?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, I have 4. After meeting Saturday night, I'm not sure any of that group can pass your test! hahaha

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    We need to spend some serious money fixing the mental health care system in this country too.
    Paranoid schizophrenia tends to exhibit in the late teens-early twenties among males, and I think it is no coincidence when you look at the profile of mass shooters.
    The situation is not improved by the whacked out idea that owning a semi-auto long gun will protect you from the black helicopters, etc., which is only the latest in a long line of bullshit paranoiac excuses that the NRA feeds the masses when its trying to hit a fundraising mark. I know plenty of responsible gun owners and they would have no problem meeting higher standards of safety and background checks to retain their weapons. But something has to give.
    I can tell you, if someone broke into my house (good luck), my paternal instinct is going to factor into the amount of damage they are going to take much more than the choice of weapon is..

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I heard a theory today about all the young people put on a quick dose of drugs for their ADD or other affliction. Parents looking for that quick fix. The feeling is that the use of these drugs can have side effects that include paranoia, suicide, severe aggressive outbursts. I put a lot of credence in this theory because I have seen it first hand with my cousins son. We need to get a hold of what we are doing when we mess with the minds of the young.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    That would not surprise me at all, Murph.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Drugs sure as shit are not the sole solution, that's for sure. It takes money, time, commitment, and support to identify, much less treat, mental health issues...and our society seems to be short on all four of those.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    This last crazy fuckstick killer, if I heard correctly, took his mother's guns. So does said background check prohibit gun ownership to people's whose relatives are mentally disturbed? Not arguing against your proposal, just asking.

    To me, guns aren't the issue. But until the real issue is pinpointed and fixed, they may have to be the scapegoat.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Something like the Voight-Kampff test.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umc9ezAyJv0

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    A free society will always be vulnerable to the fringe elements. Sadly, on occasion this leads to tragedy. It's not always guns, nor always Americans...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara_massacre

    http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/24/13448753-norway-massacre-gunman-anders-breivik-declared-sane-gets-21-year-sentence?lite

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Fuck me, Dave - you notice a common thread there?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    BTW, substitute a long gun or multiple semi-auto handguns instead of a knife and ponder what the results would have been.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    The common thread I see is there are some really fucked-up people in the world, and they are very dangerous.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Young, mentally ill men in societies that fail to effectively treat or institutionalize them, relying instead on "someone else" to deal with the problem...and in THIS case, not any other random act of violence you feel like throwing out, he found access to an assortment of weapons and ammunition that eased his path towards murdering 20 6 year old kids.

    You have kids, Dave? For some reason, I thought you did.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I was going to reply, but read 4ever's post below and I don't have much to add.

    Yes, I do have children, ages 25 and 22.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I thought so...
    Look, I'm not some loon that wants to ban all guns. I've said before, I have lots of friends that own handguns and treat them reverentially.
    However, maybe it changes when your kids get older. Right now, I know this - I am not going to spend the next 15 years thinking that this is as good as it gets.
    The status quo is not acceptable to me. Your comments earlier made it sound like you are just shrugging your shoulders - that, eh, there's always evil people, can't do much, why bother.
    We have a ridiculously high rate of gun ownership and, unlike Canada, we tend to use them in homicides.

    And honestly, the idea that, well, sure we could screen for paranoid schizophrenics, but how would you catch them all? I guess we shouldn't bother...Say the fuck what???
    Number one, many mental illnesses have genetic markers and verifiable family histories.
    Secondly, conflating ideologically driven shits like the OK City bombers or that freak from Norway with the antisocial (sociopath) kid that turns 18 and gets REAL weird...that's also disingenuous and you know it. So we won't address one issue because there's always another one?
    Fuck me.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I agree with MBP, that our health care system needs to be drastically improved, but I'm not entirely sure screening for "psychiatric" markers would weed out potential massacres.

    1. Deeming who is "prone to violence" more than the general population.

    Just WHICH clinical illnesses would disqualify one from owning a gun? This would be a HIGHLY contentious debate even in the psychiatric community. Multiple personality disorders? Borderline multiple personality disorder? Schizophrenia - paranoid schizophrenia? Clinical depression - anger management - PTSD? etc etc

    2. Slippery slope.

    Even if our society figures out which segments to ban from LEGALLY owning a gun, there will ALWAYS be those who slip through the cracks, and there will ALWAYS be those who will always be "questionably" insane. For instance, read those links from SC.

    The Japanese kid just seemed to have dickhead parents - became a loner, antisocial, and I would imagine somewhat of social outcast.

    But would those markers disqualify one from owning a gun? He did attempt suicide, and I think (not sure) if one attempts suicide, that bans them from owning a gun in a lot of states, but not all of those "misfits" do attempt suicide until it's too late (i.e. murder-suicide).

    This is a slippery slope - banning all "weirdos" (borderline clinical) from owning a gun is not an idea that sits well with most americans.

    3. The undiagnosable.

    Then there are the "extreme ideologues". For instance, Timothy McVeigh and that Norweigian Nazi who slaughtered 77. At their trials they were deemed "sane", so even if a psych test were administered to them before owning weapons, they probably would have passed it.

    And again, are we really comfortable as a society to ban individuals with "fringe" political-societal views such a Nazism, Anarchism, Marxism, etc? This would also lead down a slippery slope, like what happened in Waco.

    4. Loose guns.

    Like someone mentioned, that murderer at New Town got his guns from his mom. In our society, it's pretty easy to get guns illegally (If you don't believe me, watch "Bowling for Columbine"). I can't imagine any crack down would make a significant difference, UNLESS we ban ALL guns period while drastically increasing border security, which would cost BILLIONS, and even then it might just turn into another futile "war on drugs". As such, "Crazy" ppl are often crazy like a fox, and will find some way of attaining them if they're really that desperate and determined.

    I'm not saying the U.S. shouldn't look into new gun laws and the such, but sadly I do not believes massacres like at New Town are preventable.

    You can't make ALL humans content non-violent citizens, and those who become discontent to the point of violence will be difficult to detect until it's too late.

    Seems hippish, but the best way to prevent violence is to treat people right, esp that one creepy classmate, cousin, coworker...and go from there.

  • It really is very complicated, and your final comment is the best idea. Much as Nancy Reagan's oft-denigrated "Just Say No" idea was the best way to deal with the "drug problem".

    Fighting a war against drugs by attempting to interdict supply rather than reduce demand did not work very well.

    So in essence I agree with you, and MB, and Posse,' that focusing on the people (i.e. "demand" for heinous use thereof) is the way to go. Hope I'm not putting words into your keyboards saying that.

    "Fixing" mental health care would be controversial and expensive and potentially endanger individual liberties.

    But maybe we just need to try anyway.

    A good source of funding would be to fix the pot laws in this country to free up resources now used to incarcerate oodles of people that really should not be in jail.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Couldn't agree more on your last statement and I, for the record, don't indulge.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Grr... what I meant to write was

    ... "demand" for the heinous use of weapons, rather than the supply of weapons

  • I pretty much disagree with the statement that most Americans have a problem banning ownership of a handgun by someone who has a "borderline clinical" (?) mental illness.

    Where did you get that from?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    BTW, the reality is that 90% of respondents in any recent poll on the topic think that a mental health issue SHOULD preclude ownership of a firearm.

    So, it's basically a non-issue. That restriction can and will happen with the overwhelming support of the American public.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I should clarify. What I mean by "borderline clinical" are disorders or illnesses which might not be as severe as paranoid schizophrenia, cases like with Brandon Marshall.

    Or how about narcissistic personality disorder? Or slight autism? or even someone who seems a little slow? or even those who had some rehab for a certain substance?

    I think then it begins to get murky.

  • Massacres like at New Town might not be preventable but if there were no assault weapons or semi-automatic pistols around, they would be a lot less lethal. If all that kid was able to steal from his mother was a revolver or a hunting rifle (or two), someone could have jumped him before he had a chance to reload. Nowhere near as much carnage. No idea what to do about the ones that are legally already out there. I remember when I was a kid, my father telling me that while you could legally own a Thompson sub-machine gun, there was an outrageously expensive federal transfer tax every time one was sold. That tended to keep them out of general circulation. But that was forty years ago (at least) and the gun climate was a lot different and mass murders weren't occurring every couple days...

  • Also, a person could be perfectly normal at the time he takes the test, then turn into a crazed killer the minute he gets his gun. In other words, guns may cause mental illness. It seems plausible to me. We already know that homicidal insanity is caused by video games, movies, and the lack of prayer in schools. Why not guns?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I pretty much agree with all of you about gun control.

    There is no sporting reason for assault rifles. I've shot them before and they are fun. So what? They are designed for one thing only and they are very good at that. Also, all the States making it unbelievably easy to get a conceal carry permit is nuts. 2 "normal" guys get into a pissing match. Without guns, at some point one of the guys will back down or a beat down will ensue. With guns, 1 guy is dead and the other is going to jail for a while. Makes no sense.

    With hundreds of million guns in the US it's too late for many restrictions. Also, with all the gang bangers I have no idea how to stop that shit. No doubt mental health issues lead to the massacres and poverty makes it very easy to get new recruits for the gangs. Also, kids having kids is a recipe for disaster. Horrible parenting or no parenting is a huge issue. Very complicated to say the least.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Very complicated indeed - I hope those in charge keep in mind the possibility of unintended consequences.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I BELIEVE Chicago has some of strictest gun laws in the nation.
    I believe Chicago also have neighborhhods that rival Mogadishu for murder rates.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I believe Chicago also has neighborhoods that rival Mogadishu for economy opportunity.

  • Boys, I read Posse's post and had to comment. I wish I could have posted earlier in the week about dinner and meeting you guys and Ditkas but I was the most hungover guy in the universe.

    MB, Posse, Doc, Murph - it was great meeting you guys. Isn't it funny that we all pretty much never met before but it felt like seeing a friend you hadn't seen a little while?
    MB is partially to blame by having me meet him at the W hotel for drinks prior to dinner. Being served by hot ass native american/irish/south american blended women and being surrounded by the best booze on the market is not a good combo as I cannot and will not stop drinking, laughing and cavorting. Like a runaway train that cannot stop until it is blown off the rails.

    It was really cool to put faces to names but now I can no longer swear at you guys because i like you too much. GP, Shady and Cor, we'll catch up next time.

    Posse, how fucking good was that burger. I know you don't like to mow down red meat but that burger inspired me to buy my own cows and raise them in the way of Kobe beef. I couldn't remember what the waiter said but I believe he mentioned that you feed the cows beer and massage them and blow them??????

    I wanted to throw my drinks on any Packers fan that I saw in the place. How dare the restaurant serve those kinds of people. That was one hell of a dinner and good conversation too.

    Once I left your guys company shit got real.....real fast. I had to attend my old neighborhood's xmas party where we all know each other and I was not allowed to pay for a drink. Karaoke began and with a glass of whiskey in my hand with one of my best friends belted out the greatest rendition of Winds of Change by the scorpions....ever. I whistled my solo. It was epic.

    Then......strip club. Closed it down and made some new friends. I think they were Eastern European. I think one pickpocketed me but i wasn't in a position to complain.

    Then.....burritos at 5am. The stripper than robbed me failed to find the money in my emergency front left stash pocket which allowed me to add guacamole to my burrito without running out of money. Why didn't you just pay with a debit card you ask? Because it was still at the strip club silly...along with my fucking coat and my soul and dignity.

    Then I woke up at 1036am and informed MB that I was a pussy and would be missing breakfast.

    Then we missed a huge chance to win that game and garner some real momentum. Watching DJ Moore gave me a flashback. He played so poorly because I could have sworn he was at the club getting fucked up along with the rest of us.

    I'm hoping for a nice 2 game streak and a fresh attitude for the playoffs. We don't need to clean house. We lost to the Packers and the Texans by a total of 15 points or some shit. We lost 2 games by 3 dropped passes. I just don't see why we should be talking about getting rid of Cutler, firing everyone, starting over, etc.

    I feel like a common sense change at OC and a good draft / FA period would work out well for us. Lovie/Tice is a tough situation though because of the whole lameduck mess from last time. Luckily I don't have to make that decision. All I have to do is find my way back to Ditka's and a dirty martini or 4 and a kobe beef burger and all will be right with the world.

    you guys are the best.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Amen to your comment about it feeling like reuniting with old friends. So true.

    And yes, said cow's receive happy ending during slaughter.

    Not sure if you remember or not, but thanks again for the air blow-job.

  • you looked stressed

  • In reply to Waffle:

    for the record, that was normal behavior. i only got really drunk after karaoke at 3am.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    That kobe beef burger - a blown cow is evidently a tasty cow.
    I haven't had a burger in something like 15 years...what a reintroduction.

    I kept waiting for the cabbie to pump the brakes...

  • I have a picture of said cab-surfing air blowjob if anyone wants it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    for the record, i was not cab surfing on the roof of the cab. The middle seats in the handicap accessible extended minivan were extracted. There was so much room....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    let's keep all identifying pictures off of the internet. I don't need wife possibly stumbling upon it and piecing together other parts of the night. Why don't you just keep that gem for your personal collection?

  • In reply to Waffle:

    100% for all pics.

    I did just text one of them to you though.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    how was my form...i didn't get low enough did I? That wave would have took me down. I'll work on my flexibility.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    yes. not enough bend in the knees... and work on the flexibility cause when you come visit me in SD there will be NO excuses. I AM taking you surfing.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    if by surfing you mean tequila, fish tacors,guac, beach, suntan, mirrored sunglasses so i can stare creepily then yes, surfing it is.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    both

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Haven't seen many who say we should get rid of Jay, although some do say he can't win us a SB. I realize the games are usually close, and that looks good on paper. It's the fact that they're ALWAYS close in favor of the other team that leads to me to want Lovie fired. And be honest, at what point did you actually think we were going to win that game, or any game, against GB in recent history? Down a TD against a decent team like GB feels like an impossible hill to climb. Why? Because it is.

  • In reply to bearsfanatic:

    heard it today and called into the score to berate the fuck out of whatever poor intern answered the call.

    For anyone to say that he can't win a superbowl is insane. It would require someone having the elusive ability to fucking tell the future.

    Some Idiot: Well, I'll tell you man, if Cutler had some actual offensive linemen and an offensive coordinator that was not actually a position coach, a TE that could catch a fucking pass to exploit the fact that we have the best WR in the league, etc he'd be a huge disappointment since there is no way he'd get us to a superbowl because, well, you know, he couldn't do it with one of the most inconsistent offensive strategies in the game, a line full of guys that couldn't start on another team, no TE, apparently no real running game,etc.

    If anyone comes out on this blog and honestly believes they can tell someone that Jay cannot lead a team to a superbowl based on the fucking piece of shit he's been handed then i'd like them to email me their contact info so i can send them a handcrafted and gift wrapped "blow me" for dumbest comment in the history of recorded and unrecorded space and time.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    my email is blow_me_nerdball@youfuckingtrollbag.biz

  • In reply to Waffle:

    I esp like the link.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    and that was just my general email not directed at you bearsfanatic.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    I'm good. I didn't take it that way. LMAO at the link, though.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    I agree with you in terms of ability. I do question his approach sometimes, but with talent around him he'd be deadly.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    The issue with Cutler is his football character. That's at the core of everything. Even when Rodgers just replaced Farvre and struggled mightily behind a shitty oline everyone liked what they saw because he struggled in the right way. Not so with Cutler (and please no one say, "stop comparing him to the best QB" because Cutler is more PHYSICALLY gifted than Rodgers - why do you think Cutler was drafted about 20 spots higher?)

    Look at the past QBs in recent SBs and ask yourself if Cutler matches up to Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Roethlisburg, even Eli.

    Let's say you transplant Cutler to the 9ers - would they still have defeated Pats?

    Not sure about that because in that one last drive to ice it for the 9ers, Cutler may very well have thrown a pic, if he hadn't thrown about 2 already.

    BUT, we gotta give Cutler at least a chance with a solid Oline, WRs, and a good system under his belt for a few years to find out if he indeed does have the 'right stuff'.

    That's my take, at least. Unless you're ready to ride with Alex Smith, Vick, Blanchard or some Weeden-ish type rook QB next year...

  • i'm willing to ride several years with Cutler and some intelligent moves by management to bring in talent on the Offensive side of the ball.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Jay has to learn to throw the ball away, Johnny, or I fear he won't last long enough. A couple more concussions and retirement (voluntary or not) may be his fate.

    I would love to see us draft OL with the first three or four picks, but I've said that since I first showed up on this blog. So I have to hope with Glitchy gone maybe it will happen.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Hell, I'd be happy for us to pursue OL free agency with the same gusto we brought to the Peppers/Cutler/Marshall trio.
    We have done it before, we can do it again...and we're going to get to the point with Jay where we really can't wait for a draft class to pan out - we need "perform now" guys.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    That would certainly work. Whatever it takes to get a serviceable line before our rather strong cadre of skill players starts into decline and retirement.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    haha...sounds like fun.

    No bloody marys for you at 5am? what a wuss!

    What's your go to Karoke song?

    Mine is "Alabama Song" and anything Doors. Funnily enough, when I get plastered, I can't remember any lyrics except for Door lyrics. So I become like a Doors tribute band at Karaoke bars.

    My cousin only has one. "Funky Cold Medina".

  • winds of change/ Scorpions

  • In reply to Waffle:

    nice!

  • Funky Cold would be a good one. I have one in mind, but I need to find the right version to imitate and break it out when there's a hottie or two I'm working at the karaoke bar to sing it to.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    You've lost that Lovie feeling? I know I have.

    http://youtu.be/HVNWSEX-WqU

  • I fall back on two standards:
    "Sweet Caroline"
    "Don't Stop Believing" aka "I am going to shriek into this mic for five minutes, bitches - enjoy!"

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Can't go wrong with Marilyn Manson. He can't sing to start with so you're halfway home before you start.

  • I don't understand the concerns about beating AZ.

    Chicago is undefeated against dogbabies this year, winning six to eight of those games, depending on how much credit you give Indy and Dallas in the early goings of the season. They haven't dropped a game to a weak opponent yet.

    Folks are acting as though Chicago is having some unprecedented late season meltdown, when in fact dropping 5 of 6 after starting 7-1 is merely a product of their schedule. The Bears might have had the most predictable results of any team in the entire league. Is there a single game that the Bears played this year where the outcome was surprising?

    Bears win easy.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    personally i was pretty surprised by the Seattle and Minnesota results.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Seattle was mildly surprising only because the seahawks play so poorly on the road. Somehow, they've won in Chicago for 3 straight years in the regular season though. Go figure.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Hanied in 2011 so the numbers look weird. c'mon man.

    They had to drive 98 yards to tie this year. mildly surprising? ninety eight yards.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    yeah, it was surprising what they did at the end, but going into the game, you had to believe that was a winnable game for Seattle.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    I'm sorry man, I did not think Seattle could win that game. Cutler suffered his first loss as a Bear when his QB rating was over 100. My thought process was if that Cutler could survive the pass rush and Tice didn't call plays like GB did in the first half vs Seattle that we would walk away with it.
    He was a 119 and had 2td's and 0 int's. I did not think the defense would fold like that. No one did....at least not to Seattle.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    you're feeding...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    he's playing nice today.

    BTW, you guys are legends among my friends. They all loved that regs sent fucking cash to us to up the level of partying.
    They couldn't believe that we backed up the talk about getting together.
    Even my wife thought it was cool that it went down nicely.
    I should be out your way in the next couple of months if everything works out like it should.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Minnesota was shocking - we lost to a team with ONE great player and literally nothing else.

    How the shit did that happen?

    Man, our offensive play calling is decrepit.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    That's true, but they are 6-1 at the Metrodome. I wouldn't even be that shocked if they beat the Packers in week 17.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Minny winning a lot of games this year. They are a team with ONE great offensive player. They have a few guys on D.

    Seattle was a surprise at the time, but they are arguably the hottest team in the NFL right now. If they beat the Niners to take the division, I can't call that loss such a surprise.

    But I do agree with cheese. We'll win this one similar to the way we beat Jacksonville. It won't be close, but it will feel close.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Seattle has been putting the wood on teams lately...but we played them so damn close. Had the O been able to stay on the field at all, that would have been a win for us.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    The Bears HANDED them 2 TDs, that's how.
    Overcoming ONE of those is tough enough.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Are you referring to the two at the end of the game?

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    "I don't understand the concerns about beating AZ. Chicago is undefeated against dogbabies this year, winning six to eight of those games, depending on how much credit you give Indy and Dallas in the early goings of the season..."
    -- thebigcheese

    One of those 6-8 teams was Detroit. So you include Detroit among the "dogbabies" that the Bears need not be concerned about? But yesterday you said the Bears needed to be concerned about Detroit. Your exact words were:

    "You should not be concerned about Arizona 'giving a fuck'. You should be concerned with Detroit 'giving a fuck'."

    I don't understand. According to your infallible logic, the Bears will finish the reg. sea. 10-6.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Detroit at Soldier Field is a dogbaby. I dunno about Detroit at home. Specifically when they "give a fuck". The bears should still win that game, but it's definitely a game they can lose.

    I don't think they can lose in AZ though, no matter what Cardinals team shows up.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    LOL (SC). Detroit has 2 wins at home.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    "I don't understand the concerns about beating AZ."

    Obviously, you're not a Bears fan.

    This is the lack of confidence that infects all Bears fan in the Lovie era.

  • In most eras, 4ever.

  • Guys, not much I can add after the boys laid it down already, but I'll try to add some of my flavah…

    Was very awesome hanging with all the boys. Most of my time was spent with Doc and Rabbit (MBP), but meeting Shady, Murph, and Johnny was insane too. I was sorry we never got to hook up with Corm and NB. Next time.

    We had amazing food, shared some great times (mostly not at the game), and we all got to put faces and personalities to handles and avatars. That was my favorite part (except for Friday night’s naughtiness). The fact that we can digitally 'meet' and shoot only the written breeze on the innerness for 4+ years and never actually meet face to face, and then finally pull all of it together and feel like we’re having a 20 year high school buddies reunion is an amazing testament to human biology.

    Friday night, after fucking 10 hrs of travel and not one hot chick sitting next to me on the planes… Doc and I got to ORD. We met rabbit downstairs fully regaled in our stach’s and then exited to the limo to roll into the city. We checked in and dropped our shit off in the room to go find some food/fun. Doc and rabbit were immediately banned from one of the most popular/busiest clubs in the city… thanks guys!

    Doc was beat so he went home while rabbit and I stayed out bar hopping. We ended up at Epic a nice upscale bar that played good music. We talked to some nice people and had some naughty fun… AT the bar (not, you know, together though).

    Next day we hit breakfast and I had the best ‘hashbrowns’ that I’ve ever had. They were more like scalloped potatoes… so fucking good. We coaxed Shady out to lunch at portillos by calling him a weirdo on the blog. You’re welcome. Was great finally meeting him (as you know he and rabbit and sometimes johnny and doc play MW3 together... for a few months shady and I litterally spent 2-4 hrs a night killing each other, talking shit, and hanging out... not meeting him again was not an option) and he bought doc and rabbit a beer, while making me pay for my own. Fucking typical.

    Later that night I met Johnny at the W bar for some pre-dinner drinks. I had two tall redbull vodkas and johnny tried almost everyfuckingthing on the cocktails menu – the insanely exotic bartendress was somehow immune to my game… maybe she’s been hit on one or two times before? Oh well, we then hit ditka’s for dinner and it was epic. Murph fucking cracked me up with his hard ass old skool chitown accent and ways… great guy maings. And johnnny continued his shenanigans with anyone who would listen. A good friend of mine from Chi who reads this here blog and will start contributing (his words) joined us even though he has a broken foot from partying in Mexico. He brought me this insane Mexican Bears lucha libre mask that is bears colors with the bears “C” on each side… what makes it even more epic is that one of the Cs is on backwards... like some dude in a little mexican town knows who the fucking Bears are. So awesome.

    We had an amazing dinner all sharing stories, taking smack about the cunt packer fans who had the gall to come to ditkas in their full packers gear. I asked our server (who was visibly drunk) if he spit in their food… he winked and said, don’t worry, we took care of it. I immediately pictured the kitchen staff having a mexican circle jerk (look it up on urban dic) onto thier cheese stuffed batter dipped double-fried chicken cheese and butter steaks… Bang! Bang!

    HUGE props and thanks to Tobi and MikeV… you guys made our night with your gesture of kindness and camaraderie, it defined what we were all feeling that night… that a bunch of strangers who’ve never met once, could come together spontaneously and instantly feel like old friends. Simply amazing. Thank you both very much… we had at least one toast to you guys.

    After dinner, my buddy took us to a cluuub in the city (can’t remember the name… but it wasn’t Club Paris that offered $2,500 bottle service, and that was a bro deal price). It was jumping, but I think it was New Deli night as there was at least 100 Indian nationals there. Really nice people btw (I have tons of respect for Indians). There were some optys that night, like the 25 year old who had a bday entourage who came up to me took my aviators (yes at night) and scarf off and put them on herself and then did a mid-club grind dance for me… alas, they were all just punking for free drinks. That was ok, she (and two other friends) rubbed their asses into me and I got some guided feel ups… I was thinking that maybe they’ve done this before? Just a guess.

    Sunday was filled with excitement and hope. I think we all honestly felt like we were gonna win, especially when dickhead missed his first FG. Alas, cutty, hayden, and the refs made sure that it was not to be. And while the outcome sucked, it was so great to be in the temple of Beardom again. I will be back soon.

    Next time, I hope to hang out with many more of you.

    Doc, Rabbit, Shady, Murph... you guys are always welcome in SD maings. I have a couch waiting for you.

    MB

  • check this out: http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/18/health/ct-shooting-mental-illness/index.html?hpt=hp_bn12

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Nooo, really? But ..it's the guns that did it...take all the guns..then we'll carry papers all the time..then we'll have chips put in so Big Brother can make sure that we are all right all the time, have the internet installed using the power lines so they can tie into your smart appliances to monitor your home so you'll be safe...then camera's on every light pole since the internet will be through the power lines so we can make sure your save in your neighborhood. See a pattern here. All because. It'll be just like being in Shangrila..... (I know I didn't spell everything right!)

  • In reply to MaddBearfan:

    you are madd!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Been listening to Coast to Coast too long I'm afraid...

  • Cor,

    I read your post on the last thread.

    First, sorry to hear about your uncle. Game ball for sure.

    Second, I'm really sorry I missed you at the game. Totally forgot about giving you my phone number, so that's on me. But I didn't notice any missed calls on it later so I'm not sure what happened.

    Finally, I looked around for you before the game, even shouted your name a time or two, but as you stated, you didn't get in there til just before kickoff. And once the game started, tunnel vision ensued. But damn, I really would have liked to meet you and shake your hand.

    Props to your uncle. I hope he's feeling better. Next time, mang. Next time.

    FYI, I did manage to sit next to the other guys, by exchanging tickets with the lone packer fan in their row. They thanked me.

  • Was he texting on his cell? Cause there were a few of those on Da Blog typing "It's over" when the Pack scored, or when Cutler threw a an int.

  • this was meant for the below comment.

    Thx Gnome.

  • I had a number for you (Idaho area code) but the calls didn't seem to go through. I tried 9 times Sunday morning. I also had a missed call from a friend that morning who was at the game, and it didn't show up on my phone until the next day. Maybe my phone was acting up. I wish I would have wrote down where you guys were sitting before I left town. Well, I'm sure I'll catch you guys some other time. Glad to hear you had so much fun.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    We looked back there before the game...had no earthly idea what you looked like, which sort of made it difficult.

  • Another thing about my Soldier Field experience.

    Most bears fans around me seemed alright, but I was amazed at a few of them. People didn't understand that they needed to quiet down when our offense was on the field, especially the redzone. Shouldn't bears fans be the MOST knowledgeable fans?

    I was amazed by the negativity. There were people cursing Lovie for taking the three points, ensuring a one possession game later on. It was obviously the right call, since we couldn't seem to know how to call a play in the redzone anyway.

    This one douche bears fan was really pissing me off. He sat right behind and to the right of me. There was 3 and a half minutes on the clock, we had just gained possession, and this asshole was like, "we're done, it's over, fuck this, let's go home...." What the fuck? You wear the color's, you pay (presumably) to go the game, and with ball and plenty of time on the clock in a one possession game, you fucking want to bail? Jesus Christ. I felt like I was at a Diana Ross concert. Fuckin' A. I looked at the guy, told him to stay positive in a very condescending confrontational way. I felt like kicking his ass. Or having my posse do it (see how I did that?). Motherfucker. THAT shit pisses me off more than any derelict coaching staff.

  • Love all the stories from you guys. I'll try to make it to a game or draft party in the future. No promises. My sister lives close to Dearborn and Congress so I've got it made there. The problem is I have 3 sisters in Illinois and if I come back, I HAVE TO see all of them. It's not an option. That means I can't just pop in and out. I have to spend at least a week in the area. I love my sisters so that's not a problem. The issue is time off, bringing my Beloved Bride, etc.

  • I did see how you did that...hah!
    Yeah, I don't understand defeatism at the end of the game, by the fans OR by the coaching staff.

  • Brandon gonna learn, or has learned, that speaking truth to power at Halas Hall gets you traded or cut

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-chicago-bears-brandon-marshall-20121219,0,3318023.story

    Halas Hall, a corrupt, festering sore of an institution, where covering one's ass is much more important than kicking the ass of your rivals, who aren't even your rivals anymore because they basically own you.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm afraid you're right. It would be a shame to have the only Bears receiver I have ever seen that I would call "great" sacrificed to Lovie's ego.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Any thoughts on why Marshall went on and on about "the run game"?

    "...I have to play better in the run game. I really didn't like my effort in the run game this past Sunday. I could have done more in the run game..."

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    He was 6 of 7 in the pass game and was probably feeling like he could have been targeted more. The run game was the only place he can play better if he's only going to see 7 passes a game and catch 6 of them.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    short of saying, "Tice, you collossal dickface, call plays that get me the ball more since everyone else is fucking up", he can only focus on other aspects of the game.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    I vaguely recall him saying awhile ago that he takes alot of pride in his run blocking as well. I haven't put myself through the grinder of rewatching the game yet, but...it is so damn painful to have a receiver that good and for the rest of the offense to not keep pace.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Are you talking about Arizona?

    I kid, I kid.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    agreed, saw him kind of whiff on a block that would have resulted in 5 more yards and he was visibly upset.

    Jay just has to keep him focused and we take these next two games and head into the playoffs.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I wasn't around here when Thomas Jones was forced out of Chicago.

    If the Bears even think about trading or cutting Marshall, they are without a doubt the most stupidest origination in the world. I for one, would probably become a meatball fan and ask for a new owner everyday.

  • and if Brian Urlacher can get away with some of his comments then Marshall should be more than fine.

  • Chicago would riot if he was traded. Not gonna happen. We're safe from at least that. Now, if Cutler gets traded Marshall will freak out. Cutler and Marshall need to stay in Chicago for a long time while we put more pieces around them. I truly feel it will happen. There is too much awareness of pieces that need to be replaced at this point.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Johnny, I am getting this for you for xmas: http://uncrate.com/stuff/titanium-entry-card/

    I won't ask what you're going to use it for, I just know that it will be used well.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I can only promise that it won't be used for evil. Only for justice.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    that is all i can ask

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Cutty and Marshall are the only untouchables we have left. Fuck Matt Forte and his eight million right in the face - everyone is on the block now, except for two. If Peppers is playing on one leg, he can go too. We need to trade some of the excess fat from this team and start collecting picks like the Pats do.

  • most stupidest Erik.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I was trying to point out how stupid it would be by using stupidest. Sorry that it didn't sink in at first.. I didn't use your (see how I did that) line.

  • I understood why we drafted Cedrunk. Jones was hurt the previous year and he didn't exactly light it up. Cedrunk was the consensus #4 pick. Since Angelo never had an original thought in his life he went with crowd and took Cedrunk. Once it was obvious Jones had about 100x's more heart than Cedrunk (that took about a minute to figure out), Angelo should have gone back to Jones and said, "Sorry man I've got to go back on my promise to trade you. You're the feature back and we'll try to get something for that idiot I just picked." That was so Angelo.

  • Technically,Jones ASKED OUT of Chicago because he wasn't ready to be Cedrunk Benson's spear carrier.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Angelo promised to move him after 2006. in exchange for not making a stink that season.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I know Al but if Angelo would have committed to Jones he would have stayed. All Jones wanted was to compete for the job with Cedrunk. He knew if he was healthy he would win the job. Sadly Angelo committed to Cedrunk and we all know how that turned out.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    It was the old "Benson was a #1 pick so we GOTTA go with him" syndrome.

    Jones was solid, durable and didn't fumble.

    Benson proved to be sketchy, soft and laid it down more often.

    I submit that if the Bears had the Russell Wislon / Matt Flynn situation, they would NOT have had the stones to start the 3rd round "too short" rookie over the high-priced free agent.

    Likewise for the QB situtation in San Fran.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    And TJ wasn't a bad receiver out of the backfield either...a skill which Cedrunk lacked completely.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Spot on Al. Spot on.

  • I'm working from home sick today watching ESPN in the background.

    Does Jerry Rice have braindamage, or is he just a fucking dumbass? I can't figure out which.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Rice and Young both have brain damage. Oh, Trent is just an asshole though.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    bag-of-hammers dumb.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    so both then. good for him!

    that said, if you want to see something absolutely amazing, go look up the records jerry rice holds. Insane.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah... truly nuts how good he was. Especially since some of his career was played when you could still play pass defense.

  • If Lovie Smith's job was based on how well the defense has performed over the past 8 seasons, what would you have to say about him?

  • But it's not.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    so fuck him. He's the HC not the DC

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    That's why I said "if"

  • we dont deal in hypotheticals here eric. what if aquaman was your favorite superhero.

    See how crazy that is?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    k

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Aquaman doesn't need to come up for air while eating pussy. He's a fat girl's dream man.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    fucking. Brilliant.

    I am in the process of learning how to stack orgasms... I will add circular breathing to my list... not for fat chicks though... although they need loving too.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Damn right they do!!!!!!!!!! Not that I know anything about it! Glad that's all in my past.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Which reminds me of the old tune you posted a while back (I think it was you) about never having gone to bed with an ugly woman but waking up with quite a few...

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    hahahahaha... that is funny.

    Who was it that posted, "Pussy doesn't have a face"

    Hilarious!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Crazy Uncle Lenny from the Wisconsin border.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    If he were the DC of the Bears, I'd be perfectly content with him.

    But he's not.

    If he were the D-line position coach of the Bears, I'd be perfectly content with him.

    But he's not.

    He is the Head Coach of the franchise and his job is to win Super Bowls. No head coach stays without winning rings. None. And even the ones that do will get canned if it's too long before the next one.

    And what is becoming rapidly apparent (ok, it took 8 years) to me is that he is incapable of finding and utilizing an offensive coordinator that can mesh with winning playoff games in the NFL.

    So, buh-bye Lovie.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Martz was the beginning of a disaster.

    Tice and Martz hated each other, it turns out Martz was the one with brains but was completely mad. Tice won that political battle, but turned out he is dumb as a box of hammers and his offense is the suck.

    I really thought Tice would put in a common-sense offense, and since that Culpepper era he oversaw with the Vikings was such an offensive powerhouse, I thought after pre-season was over that we were really going to be able to move the ball.

    Fuck, was that wrong.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I didn't necessarily think our O would score more with Tice than under Martz, esp going on that 30 points avg streak.

    Say what you will about Tice, but he KNOWS O. He's creative and aggressive. That was also the problem because with our personnel, that was getting Cutler murdered.

    So, I figure we'd maybe score in the 20s, esp with the addition of Marshall, Bush, Carimi (healthy) and Alshon (not to mention Davis who was more of a wild card), which I was fine with because Cutler would survive a season.

    What I did NOT expect was the absolute ineptitude of not only the passing game, but the running game esp when we really need it (5 yd on the Packers zone - we only needed like a yd in the Seattle game, and they would have never had the chance to march down 98 yds).

    I did not expect Davis, Carimi too suck so much. I did not expect Bennett, Bush, Forte, Rodriguez to be hampered by injury or lack of use. I did not expect for us to release Williams from LG or Clutts at FB, or Louis to get injured (I did expect Hester to suck and Marshall not to though).

    But again, because of Lovie, what choice did we have other then Tice?

    I just made myself sad.

  • * Say what you want about Martz, but he knows O.

  • O... as in,

    "O shit! I just got cutty fucking destroyed on that empty set 10 step drop again!"

    You mean that O?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah, that O. Martz could care less his QBs drooled, as long as 30 points were put up.

    Martz is one sadistic fuck. Probably gets his nipples tazered in full gimp gear.

    Like that image? You're welcome.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    yeah, lovely. thanks for that. Bastard.

  • As irrelevant that idea might mean to you all, try to answer it. I mean, based on the defense for the past 8 to 9 years, how does that reflect on Lovie?

    If I recall, there was a time when Sean Payton almost lost his job even though the offense was putting up points and his defenses would cost him games. The same is happening now.

    You don't have to kill me. Not yet at least.

  • What it says is that Lovie should remain a D.C.

    Payton eventually chose the right D.C. (or wrong one, but still got a ring), and it took him a lot less time to do so.

    Lovie picked his O.C.s. He could have chosen from a multitude of options, but decided to go with the likes of Ron Turner.

    Then he pretty much got stuck with Martz/Tice because his own incompetence put him on the hot seat...

    A H.C. is responsible for BOTH the O.C. and D.C. - this is why Reid (the bizzaro Lovie) is gonna be gone. Everyone knows Reid is an O guy, but ultimately he was responsible for his D, and as such, he's getting terminated.

  • As bad as Lovie is on game day, Reid is worse. By a lot! Scary but true.

  • Payton gave New Orleans a quarterback. With Drew brees, New Orleans always had a puncher's chance at worst.

  • It reflects well on Lovie, as I said...I get your point, 'Too. I'm just saying it's an academic exercise at best.

  • To the DBB rabble that made it to Chicago last weekend:

    Thanks for the updates, I had almost as much fun reading them as if I'd actually been there. It definitely sounds like it was money well spent. Anyone know the approximate date for the upcoming draft party? I'm going to really try to make that one although I seem to recall at the last one, somebody's cousin had to bail everyone out of jail...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I'm guessing the draft party will be April 25th. That is the date for the first round.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I'm like you though CB, too big of a family to visit (two brothers, five sisters and fifteen nieces and nephews) to get away with an in and out two day round tripper. On top of that, I haven't been back since 07 so there a lot of old friends to catch up with as well. Guess I'll have to make a week out of it. Plus Cook County Jail is a big place, so once booked, it might take a few days to get us all out....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Just make sure the record back home is clean. Extradition out of the cook county system can take 10 days if you waive. hahahaha

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Oh, and dont worry, I WILL accept your collect calls and come to visit!

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Saving up my bail money as we speak.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Thank YOU!!!

  • Canada, my boy Nick The Feelin' made it to the finals on the Voice. Doc and MB, you guys might like this too. When I talked him up to you back in August, I had no idea he would be on that show. Never thought his style would get him in the top 3. It is a pop TV show after all. I think you might like his last competition song, Jerry Lee Lewis into Hendrix:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrwvEo2ZNSg

    Last song he did on the show with Smokey Robinson:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQYN-JL-K0g

    Play that funky music white boy, with Ceelo, and mini-Ceelo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiFW112Gj9Q

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    How did you know about him? I watched some of the shows and was kinda shocked he wasnt in the top 2. I loved the Jerry Lee into Hendrix. He may not have won but I think he will have a hell of a career in front of him. Loved Milo too. The lil dude was discovered by Celo's manager shortly before the finals show and they put that together on short notice.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    I've seen him jam in La Crosse countless times over about the last five years. Mostly at bars, but also a few theater shows. He used to play La Crosse about once a month with some of my friends. At the bar he played a lot of NOLA style music, jam band stuff, and outlaw country. My buddy Cheech put on a production of The Last Waltz with about 35 musicians, and he nailed Dr. John. He also played in an Allman Brothers tribute show to Live at the Fillmore East. I was blown away the first time I seen him live, so I tried to catch every show I could when he played in La Crosse. The guy you see on TV is the same guy you would see at the bar. Kind of quiet, humble, very nice person. Everyone around here just refers to him as "The Feelin". Is Milo the "mini" Ceelo?

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Great story, the guy sings with such heart. Yeah Milo stands for Mini Ceelo. I googled him and got the info because my wife thought his wardrobe was stuffed, but he's a chunky lil dude. Obviously Ceelo tapped his Mom 16 years ago! My wife did not miss an episode of the show, so I got all the updates and was mandated to watch all the performances she rated as outstanding. I'll be watching him when I get the chance and keep an eye on where his career goes. I see he has a lot available on iTunes.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Milo does look just like him! Hilarious. Did you see Nick do Lean on Me? I think that was my favorite performance on the show. I have three of his CD's, but I think he has 5 total. What did the wife think of him? When he plays live at the bar, his legs are always kicking around like he's dancing behind the piano or keys, and he's bouncing in his seat. I doubt I'll be seeing him play at the local bar anymore, but I'm happy to see someone I've admired as a musician for a long time get some recognition. I'll gladly pay more than the $5 cover to see him perform down the road.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Does he write anything? How's his original material?

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    He's definitely got it going on. He will certainly make more money and play bigger venues because of this show. Does he write any songs? If he doesn't write songs or have someone write songs for him, he will have a hard time going to the top. No matter how good you are doing covers it will only take you so far. Hope it happens for him.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    He writes all his own songs. He has five albums of different genres of music. I have three of them. He writes some good tunes.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    That answers that.

  • Does the fact that I found this amusing make my sense of humor hopeless?

    http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/xdtalk-chatter-box/218777-timmy-santa-exchange-letters.html

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I got a kick out of it too. Nice find.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    that was awesome. You know that it was posted on a handgun forum right? (I own that gun actually)

  • The five points you listed Jeff about Sundays game I found absolutely hilarious. Two punters are the stars, More than four INTs probably half by Cutler, Peppers and Wooten do great against sorry ass Tackles, And absolute no run game. No knock on you Jefe but If we are a playoff team and a dam good team then we should kill these guys and the stars should be more than two punters.

  • Fuck, I'm probably posting on a dead thread. Looking forward to the new site.

    I talked to my sister tonight about the gun control debate and background checks regarding mental illness. It's not a simple issue. My sister is a highly sought after practicing psychiatrist and teacher at a top notch medical school. When I asked her about mental health tests, she said you would need to test weekly, because people can change quickly. And what would happen if you cleared someone and they perpetrated a horrible crime? The evaluator of that person would get the blame. On the other hand, she would love to have the power to take firearms away from some of her scary patients who refuse to give up their firearms. She works at a VA hospital by choice, and deals with a lot of fucked up people.

    I don't profess to know what the answer is, but I know it isn't knee-jerk reactions by politicians. If this country really wanted to drastically reduce the number of homicides, most of which occur in major cities, it would legalize all drugs. All drugs. Divert the extra resources on rehabilitating the hard drug users. If this country actually did that, we would probably have similar per capita homicide rates as most of Western Europe and Canada.

    I cried my eyes out when those poor kids and educators died in CT last week. It was horrible. But if you put things in perspective, that shit happens all the time around the world.

    The United States has "The War on Terror" and "The War on Drugs" that kills thousands of young kids around the world every year. 20% of the Iraqi population is homeless and refugees, about 5 million people. We have drone attacks in Pakistan, Libya, Yemen, and other countries that I'm sure has killed lots of kids. Mexico, like Columbia, is turning into a Narco state in the northern regions.

    There is some seriously evil bad shit happening around the world in the name of America and our government's policies. All in the name of "protecting us".

    I love America, but we need to stop projecting our will on the rest of the world, and let them solve their own problems. And the US needs to stop their war on their own citizens through the "War on Drugs". If you don't steal or physically harm someone else, you should not be in jail.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    On a side note, thanks Irish for your insight. Your influence on financial matters among myself and some of my friends has been exponential and helped change some of our worldviews.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I've mentioned it before, but the ongoing tragedy that is Africa is something that we seem to be able to just put out of our minds here in America.

    http://www.oneafricanow.com/

    Got into this site a little; I will try to look more later.

  • totally unrelated, but what are people's thoughts on chip kelly? would anyone be willing to give him a shot if we need to replace the lovester?

  • In reply to evantonio:

    yes please.

    (that said, I'd probably take my pld high school coach at this point)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i've been thinking on lovie successors a lot lately. i guess going 0-December 2 years in a row will do that to a man. clearly we need to switch things up, and who's a bigger change than college football's best spread-offense mastermind?

    but do we have the personnel to run his style of offense? would our line benefit from or explode in the land of empty sets and 5 eligible receivers running down the field? do we even have the personnel to run a chip kelly offense? i mean, can you imagine having to depend on devin hester every single snap?

  • In reply to evantonio:

    To me it's obvious we need an offensive-minded head coach. The only one I can remember in my lifetime was Ditka. Esp now with all the rules favoring the offense. When I watched 9'ers/Pats the other night it was like watching a completely different game. Our O looks like it's from the 80's. I know the biggest issue is the OL but there are no surprises. What you see is what you get. It reminds me of Turner's offense. That's not good. All of the regulars can predict whether the play is a run or pass before the snap. If it's a pass we all know where it's going. FUCK!

  • In reply to evantonio:

    Can he play offensive tackle?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Could he possibly be worse than Webb?

  • In reply to evantonio:

    I think Chip Kelly is a highly UNlikey candidate to land in Chicago for the oft-quoted "He'll command the kind of money the bears don't pay a head coach" reason. I also think he might be more interested in a team like Carolina and a QB like Cam Newton who would be more suited to the style of offense Kelly would be inclined to run.

    Regardless of where he eventaully lands, with Oregon's football program now on notice of an NCAA investigation, you have to figure Mr. Kelly will do his best Pete Carroll impression and skip town before the sanctions hit the fan.

  • Some more thoughts on Cutler:
    I think the main thing for him is time to read the field. He's a see it, throw it guy, so he waits for a receiver to break and then guns it there. That makes for some wow throws at times, but it doesn't work when you don't have time to wait for a receiver to break. That's why Favre threw so many picks. Same type of risk/reward game...move around, wait for receiver, fire the ball on a rope between two defenders. I think Cutler would be the Favre of the mid-90s if he had a good o-line, decent to good receivers, and a good OC. He could win a SB as Favre did, or he could throw a pick-6 that torpedoes the team, as Favre also did many times. The Bears definitely need to build around him, though, because right now he's closer to Rex and Sanchez than he is the better QBs. I'm tired of seeing rookies sitting with higher QB ratings than Cutler.

  • And yes on the offensive minded head coach. Lovie = good DC, not so good HC. I think he's absolutely clueless on offense, so he doesn't know what to look for or how to hold people accountable on that side of the ball like he does with defense. Even with the defense he fields, it gets picked apart by the best offensive minds because he's too slow to adjust during the game.

  • The Colts, Saints, Pats, etc. have broken the mold of defense wins championships in recent seasons. You have to have a solid defense, but it doesn't need to be the 2000 Ravens or 02 Bucs. A top-15 D and a top offense can definitely get it done nowadays. A top-10 D and a 28th ranked offense will NEVER get it done, though. I'd bank on an offensive head coach with a decent DC to run an effective, if not spectacular, defense.

  • Lovie kind of showed his ability to pick an OC when he brought Terry Shea here to begin his regime. I agree that we need to find a HC with offense as his specialty. I know this has been thrown out here with mixed reaction My choice would be Gruden. He has a great offensive mind, a strong personality to handle Jay, has that emotion we all want from a HC. I can just see him on the sideline, face all fucked up and contorted, angry as fuck! He also has had the ability to pick good DC's on his teams. We know he can fit an offense to the QB rather than try to make the QB something he isnt. IMO he'd fit the bill for what we need.

  • This is a major element the current team lacks:
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-olin-kreutzs-speech-was-catalyst-to-comeback-at-arizona-for-chicago-bears-20121219,0,1180040.story
    This is what leadership looked like. Throw in Mike Brown's 05 rant, too. Those guys were great, but they were also true leaders on the field and in the locker room.
    Who does this now? Strangely, Marshall's presser comments are the only thing that comes close. You know your team is lacking something when Marshall is your leader. I love the guy, but it's more telling of the lack of fire/leadership/accountability from everyone else. Marshall is too moody and pouty to be Kreutz or Brown. Jay just yells at people without the respect factor to actually motivate. Brian is over the hill and led more by example even in his prime.

    So who is it?

  • In reply to bearsfanatic:

    with all due respect, you have no fucking clue how Jay leads in the offseason, during practice, during the game, what he discusses with the team before, during and after games, how and if he motivates and to what degree his teammates respect him.

    jesus.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    I agree with ya Johnny but it sure doesn't seem like the team rallies around him. It's not like the locker room is toxic so I'm not sure if this is really an issue. The QB is almost always the leader on O. That was one of the reasons Olin had to go (besides the fact he should have retired about 2 years sooner).

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Pepp, Lach, Briggs, Peanut, those are the leaders on D. And they can be passionate when that's what is called for. I'm hoping that Melton will grow into the next generation of leader. It is somewhat concerning that we don't have any other rookies that are similarly stepping up.

    On offense this is Jay's team. As Johnny said, we have no clue what he does in the locker room. We have no clue what he does in the huddle. All we know is that the players have never said a bad word about him since he got here. His receivers respect him, Matt Forte respects him, he's is the leader of that offense.

    Outside of Jay. I think we would want to see Brandon Marshall and Matt Forte as the leaders. Forte, as far as I see, does not embrace that role. Marshall does - he's a true professional and I am thrilled with his off the field stuff. Jay and Brandon run that offense.

    On the line it would be great to see Lance Louis step up. But who knows what will happen.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Players never say bad things about others in the Lovie regime. It's all kumbaya.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    does ‘kumbaya’ mean ‘mediocre’ in Swahili dave?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "Come by here", but well played MB.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    We don't have to be in the huddle or the locker room to see Jay's body language and demeanor during games, and it doesn't inspire confidence or respect in a lot of cases. I know the media blew all that up to a ridiculous degree, but when many former players question that part of Jay's game, it can't just be dismissed. I'm not saying Jay has to be all rah-rah, but he could not look quite so defeated with all the hand gestures and it's never my fault demeanor on the sideline. Life Jeff said, you throw a stupid pick, you go to the bench, look at the photos, and get ready to go back out there and fix it. I don't see Jay doing that. I see him getting down, yelling, and putting on a display of frustration, especially when we play GB. Then we lose.
    Marshall seems to be the closest player to a Mike Brown or Olin Kreutz level that we have. That was my point.

  • Have to laugh at the Jets talking about trading Sanchez. I read he is guaranteed $8.5 mil next year. Ain't nobody taking that on. It's bad enough they signed him to a new contract but to guarantee the second year. What a bunch of morons.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Sanchez's new contract was probably the dumbest move of the past off-season. I don't think anyone outside of Sanchez's agent and the NYJ front office thought that was a good idea when it happened. Who made that decision?

    Looking at recent bad contracts in the NFL.
    1) Mario Williams - so far, overpaid, but decent
    2) Chris Johnson - so far, overpaid, but decent
    3) Mark Sanchez - so far, overpaid, but decent

    But which of those three would hurt the team the most if cut?

    Johnson could be cut with minimal guarantees still owed. Sanchez being cut would eat up 10% of the teams cap space on someone not even on the team.

    Williams was paid a big guarantee, but he's still a solid starter on that defense. If they keep him for another season or two they can still develop other D-linemen and they will get decent value for their money. You can't say that for the QB position - you get one starter and its hit or miss.

    Sanchez could possibly be the dumbest contract of the last five years.

  • Nature is fighting back.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pecV8i8M2J0

  • It's fake Doc. It's from a graphic arts school in Montreal.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Well, we know that Kurt Warner didn't do it.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    hee hee

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    No way. Shit.

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    I hate to admit it, but I signed out on the Bears season last week. I thought I was done. Actually scheduled to be driving to visit family during this weeks game. The first one I will have missed in a decade.

    But now the abomination that is Thursday Night Football is upon us and my thoughts turned to the Bears. So I have a question for the group.

    What are the scenarios for the Bears to make the playoffs?
    I've rescheduled my travel, but don't want to wade through ESPN et all to find out.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    It could still be iffy, but 10-6 should get them in.

    9-7 most likely will not.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Ain't no more asstastic thursday night football this week my man!

    Scenarios:

    Avoid tying records with the Vikings and Giants and Redskins. Cowboys are fine, we own the tiebreaker over them. Would also be sweet for Seattle to lose their remaining games and go 9-7.
    This is all relying on us winning out mind.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    That's right - Detroit plays Saturday this week.

    And I'd put the line at -3 for Saturday over the Lions at this point.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Good call....the site I use for gamberlin has the Line at -4.

    We are at -4.5. For our wildcard challengers, Vikings are +8 at the Texans, Seattle are +1 at home against the 49ers, Cowboys are -3 at home to the Saints, Giants are -2.5 against the Ravens IN Baltimore, and finally the Redskins are -6 on the road to Philly.

    Wouldn't touch that Seattle game at all. Maybe a certain crazy Irish guy would?

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Hah, well, I meant that I would take the actual day of Saturday over the Lions...

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Whoops. Other Saturdays I would take over the Lions would be Jeff Saturday, or even these lovely ladies (the awful song unfortunately pushes the line back towards favouring the Lions).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfGzWntCbxY

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Man that song is fucking garbage. What makes it worse is the local yobs of a soccer team here play it everytime they score at home. Turrible.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    That game would SEEM to set up nicely for Seattle with SF coming off big, emotional, win that they had to fly all the way cross-country to get and now the 49ers get to go INTO Seattle as a reward.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    signing out on an 8-6 season with 2 winnable games to go and the playoffs coming up is retarded Mike. Please rethink your position, admit to yourself that you are dissapointed and your expectations haven't been met, then sit down and watch the fucking game with a beer and some friends and show up 3 hours later for the family.

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    In reply to Waffle:

    It's not the record. It's not that they might be 10-6. It's the quality of the wins and losses. This team is just stunningly mediocre. Watching the offense hurts my eyes.

    "How do you keep the Chicago Bears offense off your lawn?", "Put up goal posts".

    All they had to do this year was be below average on offense. 20th-21st they are probably playing for the 1 spot. But instead it's the worst version in memory.

    Made Martz look good that's how bad.

    Yeah, I will be there. I always am. ..... It is in my blood.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Not sure a single person qualifies, but I gotta say "man, touch crowd".

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Er... um... touGh crowd

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    No Thursday night game this week, but Falcons Lions is on Saturday night.

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    Ah.. I hadn't even looked. I was just wrapping up may day and thinking about chilling out. Thought there would be a game

  • Well, if tonight is the end of the world, been nice knowin you guys. See you on the flip side... nice to know the chosen people have a get out of jail free card.

    well, off to go practice my best, "you might as well, the appocalypse will be tomorrow anyway" lines.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Remember the lessons you have learned, padawan and all will be well.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Best wishes on your journey to find the elusive golden wool hidden deep inside Olmec's temple. I hope you have better luck than this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTYZADhG-rQ

    Maybe keep the yellow sweatpants and helmet at home tonight.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Shit! That was SO going to be my outfit tonight.

    Thanks for the warning... plan B I guess.

  • Former Big Ten track legend and three time Olympian Suzy Favor Hamilton just got outed as a high end Vegas call girl. I think she was even on the Wheatie's box at one time. Her husband knew about it, but was supposedly unhappy about the situation. I'm guessing the Big 10 (14) is gonna drop her name for the award named for her.

    http://www.heavy.com/news/2012/12/suzy-favor-hamilton-olympian-hooke/

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    gotta follow the money Corm. Times is tough.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    She aint all that. $75 for a BJ while I cruised the strip!

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    She suppsedly commanded $600/ an hour?

    Sorry, for $600 you better look like Grace Kelly, Rita Hayworth or Jean Harlow.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    It was Vegas. Some half-drunk tool that just has a good run on the machine slots and decides to look for a flesh version, and there you go.

  • http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/laron-landry-offseason-plans/

    anyone know how he did this year?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Played in 14 so far. 93 tackles, 4 forced fumbles, 2 int. After 16 games it will be his best year of his career. Who photo-shopped his head on your pic? hehehe

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Hahahaha...

    FUCK Murph.... do you remember who wanted to pick him up last offseason for the beloved?

    This Guy!

    FUCK!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yep, I thought we could get him cheap.
    Great.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    He took a one year deal and played for cheap, Now he wants his PAYDAY!

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    We were obviously better off picking an injury prone safety in the 3rd round, with no idea what if anything he would contribute this year, rather than picking up an injury-prone Pro Bowler.

    SMFH.
    Shit!

  • This is for Rabbit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2B2ch8pW_A

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    oh, and don't forget to read the comments. I LOLed.

    LOL!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Oh. Dear. Lord.

    I can't WAIT to take mine to the beach this spring...IPD.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    International Pussy Decoy?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Something along those lines.

  • What do I owe the wife for a weekend getaway to Chicago?

    Still countin' but I've had to go to two malls in two days and right now I'm watching my three kids and my wife's friend's three kids whilst they go out for the night.

    Fuck me.

  • Just remember, if you pay too much, you must be guilty of something.

    Of course, if you pay too little, you're guilty of that. Either way, you never go again.

    [reposted]

  • Would
    "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime"

    be appropriate here?"

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    HAHAHAHAH!

    Boom!

  • Just remember, if you pay too much, you must be guilty of something.

    Of course, if you pay too little, you're guilty of that. Either way, you never go again.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    You posted that comment in the wrong place, Buttsteak. It was supposed to be a reply to Doc.

  • It was great to hear the stories from all you guys who made it back to Chicago last week. Sounds like tons-o-fun was had by all. Would have loved to be there.

    There was one thing missing from from all the accounts. No, not the universal theme of sobriety and moderation. It appears there was no taking part in the life altering experience of sitting down at Lou's (or any number of extraordinary pizza joints in Chicago) and pigging out on the best pizza on the planet. How in thee hell do you go to Chicago and not get a real Chitown pie right outa the oven?

    Shit, when I go back they need a forklift to get me back on the plane for the return trip. There is nothing I'd rather die of than an overdose of Lou Malnati's. Well OK, maybe an overdose of sex, but at my age that's not that hard.

  • In reply to MikeV in OR:

    Mike, if it makes you feel better, when i stumbled in to my house late sunday afternoon the party at my house had LouMalnatis as far as the eye could see and I ate enough for everyone that missed out last weekend.
    I overdosed on lou's and fell asleep at 10pm, but miraculously was brought back to life by the shrieking of a 2yr old at 2am having nightmares.
    Needless to say, Monday wasn't my most productive workday.

  • Yeah, Johnny it does. At least somebody slipped into a pizza induced coma.
    Sorry about the 2:00am wake up call. Oh the wonders of raising children.

  • In reply to MikeV in OR:

    MB, thanks for the personal update and as your request:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34ag4nkSh7Q

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