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  • Simple: Give me C.J. Spiller's total yards from scrimmage (running + receiving + passing) for the Buffalo Bills. I think Spiller is one of the best and least utilized backs in football and I think he'll have a breakout night at home against the Dolphins. My number: 188.
  • Get it right and you'll eliminate one of your incorrect weeks.


This is one of the great sport columns of the year. It is a scathing criticism of football's largest bag of douches, Dave Wannstedt:

There may not be a more unpopular figure to general Buffalo-area sports fans, let alone die-hard fans of the area's professional football team, than Buffalo Bills defensive coordinator Dave Wannstedt. Promoted to that post following the 2011 season and blessed with more individual talent at his disposal than any Bills coordinator has had in recent memory, Wannstedt's Bills defense is currently ranked No. 31 in the NFL, including dead last against the run.

Jason Cole, a reporter who covered the Miami Dolphins in the early 2000s when Wannstedt was their head coach (and who is now a national reporter for Yahoo! Sports), spoke with WGR 550's The Howard Simon Show on Monday and touched on the topic of Wannstedt. His opinion of Wannstedt is, to put it very lightly, less than inspiring.

"Dave is probably one of the worst coaches I have ever seen who rose to that level," Cole told Simon. He'd later continue, "Dave has no ability to inspire people to play harder. I think he's a very unimaginative guy."

Wannstedt, who also was a head coach for the Chicago Bears in addition to Miami, is most famous in NFL circles for being the Dallas Cowboys' defensive coordinator on two Super Bowl teams in the early 1990s. (Bills fans will remember those Cowboys teams well.) Cole believes that his success in Dallas had more to do with Johnson and the way the two coaches worked together.

"He was a great foil in Dallas for Jimmy Johnson," Cole opined. "Jimmy would come in and play the bad cop role, and then Dave would come in and be the nice guy, and say 'oh guys, we'll get it together, don't worry. Jimmy's just going nuts, don't worry about him.'"

Cole also spoke briefly of the 2002 season in Miami, when the Dolphins - blessed with the NFL's leading rusher (Ricky Williams) and the No. 1 overall defense in the league - blew a division lead to miss the playoffs. After Week 15 that year, the Dolphins were 9-5, a game ahead of the New England Patriots and two ahead of the New York Jets. Miami lost to a 6-10 Minnesota team in Week 16, then dropped an overtime decision to New England in Week 17, allowing the Jets - who won their last two games convincingly - to sneak into the playoffs.

Wannstedt - who would coach parts of two more seasons in Miami - lost the team from that point forward, as Cole explained with the following story (taken verbatim from the WGR 550 interview):

"He stands up in front of the team in a pre-season, and he has a basket - like a trash basket - and then he's got four things. He's got a Bible, a family picture, a football and a brick, and he shows how if you keep everything in order, and keep your priorities right, the picture, the football and the Bible will all fit quite nicely in the basket. But if you add the brick - which he called 'distraction' - it won't fit.

"The only problem was that as he did it, he took everything out of the basket, and then he tried to put it back in. This was the football, the Bible and the picture - he tried to put them all back in, but he couldn't remember the way that they went back in. So he was fumbling around, and then the basket fell over in the middle of all of this. It began just sort of a comedy session.

"When he put the basket back in the locker room later in the week, the players were so frustrated with him that they took the stuff and threw it in the trash can."

Cole - who, along with the rest of us, has been highly unimpressed with the play of Buffalo's defense - seems to imply that the bulk of the blame for those shortcomings falls on Wannstedt's shoulders.

"Dave is not a leader of men," Cole concluded. "He and Norv Turner have made more money off of their association with Jimmy Johnson than any two human beings ever have deserved to."

Gets better every time.


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    I don't know why I even bother, maybe peer pressure...

  • I wonder if they'll keep McCown on the team the rest of season, just in case otr they plan on releasing him once Cutler is back for sure. . All things considered, unless they desparately need the roster spot, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to have a third QB...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Glad gettin rid of the ex cured the A-fib! That shit sucks!

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Thanks Murph. Unfortunately, the stress of this Bears O might just put me back in it...

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    To answer your question from the last thread, nowhere near as bad as you. Once on meds, the episodes lasted anywhere from a few minutes to an hour or so, at least half a dozen times a day. I could tell by a sudden shortness of breath and a stethescope I carried with me confirmed it. You've been dealing with it for so long, you're probably up on everything that's going on but just in case, below is a link to a relatively new process that might be of interest and which I considered:

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    They ablated my AV node in July. So the atria still beat uncontrolled but the ventricles dont try to catch up, so the symptoms are basically gone. Down side is dependence on the ICD/Pacemaker. Different meds controlled it for the short term. Some meds were not on the table do to previous heart damage. That being said, its no fun to deal with and very scary when it happens and you dont know whats going on.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    One of these days I'll realize how fortunate I've been. . I have a customer in the exactly the same situation as you. Every so often things don't work the way they're supposed to and he's in the hospital for a week. Now he's got to go in because of some issues with the leads on his Pacemaker. He's been dealing with all of this for the last ten years. The sad thing is he just turned 52....

  • Hey MB thanks for the link in the last thread. Ibrahimovic has long been one of the most enigmatic players on the planet but when he puts it together he's a monster. The fact that it was against England only sweetened the deal.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Most welcome my man. I only request that you send me a case of Leffe Bruin in return.

    holy.fucking.shit. that was insane. I've watched quite a bit of soccer, and that was an amazing play. Wow. Jaw dropping... finishing with the left was the icing. thanks for that.

    Here, I'll get you one last cool one back:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ehhh, anything Scottish instead? A nice malt perhaps. Or even some of our own mental beer? never tried any of this shit myself:

    jeez, all that would take is one miscalculation of a rock and you are looking at pissing through a tube from a hospital bed. Personally I'd enjoy walking the guy up and taking in the sights then let him ride down. I'll raise you a more urban setting:

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    We have talked about them for a long time on the blog. I am DYING to buy the nuclear one that's bottled in a nicely dressed ferret or squirell. Johnny even changed his avatar for a while.

    Yeah, that's the one I started with... those are nuts too. There's also a good one in a Brazilian favella, but I think the chile one is better. I'd love to do it, but I'm too old for that shit now. Will be 40 in less than a month and have two little ones that need a daddy, so I'm toast for all the crazy shit now. Oh well.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    and for me, while I'm neither old nor a father, I'd like to be able to be both of those one day so I'll give it a pass!

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    I think he just called you 'old', dude.

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  • Wanny's D played with inspiration last week. They only allowed 37 points to the Patriots, giving their offense a chance to win at the end. Alas, the Bills offense threw a pick in the end zone right at the end of the game. I love it when Wanny's team loses.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    So say we all

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  • btw, we all know these guys. They're VP or sales or marketing of a big company managing huge teams and.or tons of money, they get paid like a king with all kinds of perks... but when you talk to them you invariably leave shaking your head thinking, "now how in THEE fuck did that absolute buffoon get and keep that insane gig."

    The answer is almost always one or both of two things I've learnt. Nepotism or cronyism (see: GWB for the both instance), and they usually are just good bullshitters/salesmen in all of life. They may be morons, but they have the gift of gab and can sell snow to eskimos.

    I'm not bitter at all, you either are or you aren't. Luck has a lot to do with it too. You just hope to god they're not your boss... or HC.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Think about nepotism in politics MB. Recent or current Governors of the 4 largest states include both Bush brothers (Texas and Florida), Cuomo in New York, and Jerry Brown in Cali. The Bush boys had their Daddy as former President. Cuomo and Brown succeeded their Daddy's as Governor. Hillary was close to winning. Romney's Daddy was a former Governor. Several Senators succeeded their Daddy in Senate seats. Daley took over Chicago because of his Daddy. It happens at every level of government. Kind of like the kid(s) taking over the family business, whether they have any skills or not.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I believe the Odious Al Gore suceeded his father in the US Senate from Tennessee.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Then, of course, there's the Kennedys. Holding onto that Massachusetts Senate seat like they were the Pope or something with a Grand plan to 8 Years in the White House for JFK, 8 for RFK and 8 for the fat, drunk, mysoginist, manslaughterer, Teddy.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Because of a general lack of term limits, a seperate class has been created. Get elected to congress and you're set for life. A license to steal.

  • Oh man sometimes I really wish I lived in Chicago

  • I had my own version, only healthier. My father is a dentist (retired) because he maintained a home office as well as his regular one, I had access to disposable syringes which I used to inject vodka into oranges. I used to bring them to high school and no authority figures were ever the wiser....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Brilliant move.

  • Yes but do they make liquor that tastes like doughnuts?

  • I hate no shave November.. I can't ever grow a beard or mustache properly. I feel like I let Burt Reynolds, Mike Ditka, and Tom Selleck down.

    I guess I won't be saying that when I turn 30 though

  • dude, I am about to shave off a nice s'tache base. Damn it.

  • here's one for canada:

    Always been into blonds, but I seem to be 'getting more into' brunettes these days (hee hee)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    God Bless America.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Alas, I mourn the apparent passing of authentic large bosoms...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I sir, do not. I celebrate it. unless they are real, then I celebrate that too.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I much prefer natural boobs but I'm 60 so it's not like I get to vote or anything!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Bless You, my friend. WOW!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Oh goddammit.

    Seeing a chick that gorgeous just pisses me off that I'm not punching her kitty.

    And yes, I can get away with saying that, even though I'm married (because my wife is a switch-hitter).

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  • In reply to 505 Bears!!:

    What if I post here? Now I'm still above Jeff's cutoff :)


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  • Bummer. I'm sure I would have won!

  • Fucking Wanny. I'll bet he's getting paid a bundle for the next 3 years of unemployment. If anyone in Buffalo ever talked to any Bears fan we could have saved them some dough.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I can never, ever, ever feel sorry for professional coaches. They get paid a shit-ton of money and, unlike the players, aren't risking life/limb for the paycheck (sure, coaches' stress levels are high and that is certainly deleterious to one's long-term health, but there are plenty of professions that pay a lot less and are a lot more unhealthy).

    Wannstedt has made so much money coaching (including being paid his full contract terms after being fired by the Bears) that he doesn't need to work another day in his life. Yet he keeps coaching. Why? Not just because some people fail upward, but because he feels some compulsion to keep coaching, to keep moving up the ladder to prove that he's a good coach.

    Bad news, Wanny: it ain't happenin'. Being D-Coord for the 31st-ranked D in the league isn't gonna get you another head coaching gig in the NFL.

    Give up. Make room for some young coach who can actually, yanno, develop talent & motivate players.

    In other words, get thee to a nunnery!

  • I often wonder about guys in his situation. Why stay in the NFL and be fired every few years?

    He still has enough of a reputation to get hired by a decent university and finish his career in the same city. Instead of getting killed in articles like the one Jeff posted, he could do some real meaningful good at a decent school. Maybe take an unranked into the top 32. Maybe even more than that if he stays long enough.

    But then I read the article and wonder if the answer isn't that he's just not a good head coach at any level. If you're NFL quality at Xs and Os, but you can't lead a locker room, you can't even really coach a good high school. So that means he's stuck. Coordinating anywhere but the NFL would be miserable, but he can't do better than D coordinator without revealing his shortcomings.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Very good point. I guess I have a different mind-set than a lot of these guys that are professionals. I see a pile of money and think, "Great so I never have to work again; time to travel, have fun, and pursue my hobbies!"

    For Wanny (and others), they probably have been so single-minded about success in their profession, they can't imagine life without that validation, and the money is just something that comes with the job.

  • CJ Spiller's combined yards last night: 130.

    reprisal guessed 131
    ben in norcal guessed 134
    Mongo Murph guessed 137

    No one else was within 10 yards.

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