Blown Out By the Bay: Rapid Fire Thoughts

Blown Out By the Bay: Rapid Fire Thoughts

The truth is this: we don't know what Monday night in San Francisco meant. We don't know if it's the beginning of a second-half meltdown or merely an example of the Bears coaching staff being outmatched by a more talented group. The focus must shift to Minnesota - the biggest game of the Bears season. Thoughts on last night...

  • Was the Bears game plan for Vernon Davis really a combination of Major Wright and Lance Briggs in coverage?
  • Have the Bears not seen tape of Aldon Smith? How could it be that I spent more time attempting to scheme ways to block one of the best rushers in the game than they did?
  • 3rd and 3. First drive of the game. Do the Bears not have a short pass in the playbook? Does every third down have to involve the quarterback dropping into a deep pocket?
  • Was I wrong about Jason Campbell? Well I sure wasn't RIGHT. But I'd like to see him play this game not trailing by seventeen points at essentially the opening whistle.
  • Have you ever seen a wide receiver run a worse route than Devin Hester's intercepted out route?
  • Gabe Carimi looks defeated out there and it's understandable. When you're getting thrown to the ground on Monday Night Football you know it's only a matter of time before you are no longer part of the starting unit. I know he's a good run blocker. But he's not that good.
  • Hi, J'Marcus Webb. Welcome back.
  • Missing tackles? The Bears have missed about 5 tackles all year! They missed 50 last night!
  • Until further notice, the Major Wright to the Pro Bowl chatter has to quiet down. On a night the Bears gave Wright a prominent defensive role, he folded.
  • I can't remember Bears linebackers looking so feeble. Did you see Lance Briggs get pancaked by a running back? The LB play is one reason I'm willing to write this off as an exception rather than the rule.
  • No pass rush.
  • No running game.
  • No blocking.
  • Let's spend a minute or two on the coaching. I'm going to give Lovie & Rod a pass because they've anchored the best defensive unit in Chicago for some time. But it time to recognize that Mike Tice and Jeremy Bates are not going to find their rhythm in 2012. (And I'm not sure 2013 looks very good either.)
  • Nice punting, Adam Podlesh. You saved your first night of decent kicks for a night the Bears didn't need 'em. (But it's a step...)
  • I do like seeing Devin Hester catch punts and run backwards. There's something old timey about it.

There's more. But really, what's the point? The Bears were shellacked on the road by a very good team. Are the Bears a very good team? I think so, yes. But fans are right to question whether they're a true contender for a title. Those same conversations happened in San Francisco when the Giants embarrassed them and in New York when the giants laid an egg in Cincinnati. The only way you can answer the question is by winning the following week.

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  • Like Dez Bryant first said, "That hurts my heart".

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

  • First, it starts with a game plan. And it is self-evident, that Mike Tice is predictable. Predictability against an equally talented team means we are going to lose more battles than win. He is an inferior tactician. Harbaugh had his club coached up to exploit our weaknesses and played to their stregth. Last night, it was the chess player who lost, not the chest pieces.

    We need to stick a fucking dagger in the Vikings this Sunday.

  • In reply to Viva:

    One former Bear outcoached them yesterday.

    I bet another former Bear does so this week. Too bad Chico didn't come through, but he has a bad team.

  • In reply to Viva:

    Last night, it was the chess player who lost, not the chest pieces.

    No - the chest piece was lost when Janet Jackson performed at the Super Bowl.

  • In reply to BillW:


  • You also missed:

    Campbell giving away that the play was a run, by every time extending his arm with the ball in his hand to the rear. I'm surprised no one from the 49ers knocked it out.

    Not only did Hester run bad routes, he had no run after the catch for minimal yardage.

    Colin Kaepernick [I had to look it up] must be the greatest QB in the history of the game, at least for last night.

    Did Carimi get an adequate signing bonus, which would be his only consideration since you surmise that he is going to sit?

    With the choice of grounding or illegal batting, Harbaugh just had to challenge to get the safety. That's a real Chicago Bears coach.

  • In reply to jack:

    It's our lot in life as Bears fans that another teams' second string QB has a better night in his very first start than our "franchise" QB has had all year.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    that's a dumb comment....dumb and wrong...wrong in spirit and in actual numbers. Holy shit Dave.

  • In reply to Waffle 3.0:

    Dude, the Bears most decorated (statistically) passer is Erik Kramer. I think SC Dave has appropriately identified the plight of the franchise.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Shhh Dave. A lot of the guys on here think Jay is their boyfriend or something and will haunt you if you ever state the obvious.

  • Spectacularly poor performance by all 3 phases last night, but the defense getting manhandled in the run game ALL NIGHT was particuarly disturbing. I hope this was merely an abberation and not a signal the window is slammed shut. The Bears d was off balance from start to finish while the offensive line was simply MANHANDLED. If I'm Jay Cutler, I'm telling the trainers I'm still feelin' the symptoms bro. Why on earth would any QB want to play behind that line? I'll give kid kapernick credit for playing well, but the Bears defensive effort was without a doubt the most disappointing part about last night.

  • So....about that Carimi to LT thing...

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Gruden had a long monologue about how everyone on the line was out of position.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I always got the " ... he's projected to play RT in the NFL thing ..."
    He's projected to do a Chris Williams.

    I don't understand NFL personnel guys. You might start with the QB, but you could just as easily start building a team from the OL up. You build the foundation and then build your house, brick by brick - but make sure the foundation is level and strong and put together correctly first. Then build your house.

  • Didn't see the game. Glad I didn't see that crap. Did see the 'highlights' though, and CK looked like he had all day in the pocket in the few clips they played of his dropbacks. It's just really hard to beat good teams without an offensive line.

    Chilo, I loved it man. You tried.

  • I'm still feeling pissed and cranky this morning. Everything was so fucked up, it kind leaves you with no idea where to start or what to say. Carimi is having a tough time, but I'm going to cut him some slack because it's really his first year and hes playing a position he hadnt played before. He was on the left at Wisconsin and now the Bears have him on the right so we can all enjoy the talent of that revolving door AKA J Marcus Webb. Vernon Davis is Vernon Davis so I cant dog Major too bad. Jason Cambell fucking stinks!! Hester is a shadow of his former self, beside running backwards on returns, I love seeing him fall to the ground when there is a defender within 2 yards. I believe we are seeing the end of the Lovie era, he has achieved mediocrity and thats all. This was a HUGE game and it seems like everyone of our beloved had a bad game. Tice is not and never was an OC, and his lack of experience coaching an O line is really showing. We had such high hopes for this offense, we were going to score so much our defense didnt have to show up. How many points have we scored against other winning teams? It is just a shit day!!

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    I thought Stephen Paea played okay.

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    In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    20 points. I am a hugely patient Bear fan. I'm beginning to see the end of days for Smith et all. Just not going to happen. We knew going in, the line was the weak spot. We didn't know that we couldn't game plan, or that the line would be worse than it was last year. Or that Martz was a better OC than Tice.

  • All I want to chime in at this point is that they should pay Jay, before someone else does, not locking him down gives him an easy out to take another offer. Good luck finding another thoroughbred QB willing to stand behind the likes of chilo, lance luis, carimi, and jumpin jwebb. Cutler makes it look easy. And one other thing, at houston, I was physically ill about the fact that fans didn't rush the field when their QB was hit and injured on a completely illegal hit, on a play that received no penalty, and yet was reviewed multiple times. Refs were so focused on whether he was one inch over the goalline that they missed the blatant illegal hit and prob didn't care anyways. That was NFL refs taking your team out of commision for 2 games, could ruin the whole fricking season, and people sat there and took it like jaguar fans.

  • In reply to irootedforjayin09:


    I think I speak for all Packer fans when I say....Come back, Jay! Come back and never leave!

    Same goes for you, Lovie; don't even change, you loveably ienept muppet you.

  • In reply to irootedforjayin09:

    This. 100% This.

  • In reply to Scala:

    Wrong reply!!! Wrong reply!!

  • In reply to irootedforjayin09:

    This. 100% this. Are we Jaguars fans?? Are we???!

  • Food for thought: the last time we went to the NFC Championship game, we lost to the lowly Seahawks and Redskins on consecutive weeks and we all needed an intervention.

    We have a great team - with a questionable OC.

  • In reply to Viva:

    Viva they got there cause they played a 7-9 division winner at home, that's the only playoff game they've won in 5 years

  • In reply to guinead1ck:

    is it actually a bad thing in your mind that we earned a first round bye in the playoffs that year???

  • This is how the bears have played playoff caliber teams all year, no surprise. It was a fun first half beatin up on tenn, jack, stl and indie. 2nd half is gonna be rough, playoffs will be even worse if they make it.

  • In reply to guinead1ck:
  • The bears have 1 win vs teams over .500. They were the most overrated team through the 1st half, they're not going to get the turnovers vs playoff teams, they're not going to protect cutler vs playoff teams, they're not going to win 3 in a row vs playoff teams. They peaked in Nashville.

  • In reply to guinead1ck:

    We're like the 2011 Lions.

    Only difference, we don't have a douchebag coach or dirty players.

  • We were outcoached, and outplayed, the defense had little pressure on their QB all nite. Receivers ran past the safteys while the safteys were looking for the short pass for an interception.
    The kid threw good cuz he had all the time he needed to most the time.
    Good thing Jay wasn't there cuz he'd just got hurt again trying to make something happen behind the fucking SIEVE of an offesive line.

  • Wow tough game for the teddy bears. Can't believe the Minny mouth-breathers were the only NFCN team that the niners didn't bend over. Fuck, I hate the niners........ but watching Goober Carimi was award-winning entertainment. I hope some of you were able to step back from the anger and disappointment to appreciate the hilarity of the Offensive Tackle play.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    I would laugh if I knew sacks didn't count and quarterbacks were not getting injured.

  • Just when you didn't think it was possible, Webb & Carimi manage to look even WORSE than they ever have.

    Dan Jiggetts on the Bears post game was LIVID and asked "Who's coaching these guys".

    Apparently, whomever it is was once a matador.

    Jason Campbell deserves a purple heart.

    The rest of the 2012 season has "2011" written all over it.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    It sure does. The 49ers just showed everyone how to completely stuff the Bears offense, and I'm not convinced Tice, et al, are capable of adapting.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    But in the Jill Carlson pregame, Jiggs and North were saying "give Lovie his extension now."

    Something must have changed his mind in the intervening 3 hours ;-).

  • Tough night.

    I really really do not want to re-watch that game. I know our problems.

    Was it me or did we decide that we could man up a 4.45 Major Wright or 4.75 Lance Briggs on 4.38 Vernon Davis?

    Our o-line cannot run block or pass block. I really don't know how we were able to run block for over 2000 yards last year. Pass blocking was going to be a concern but Gabe has taken a huge step back in terms of developing. Webb is Webb. Garza is old. Lance Louis let me down last night. Our last guard was injured and our new guard was benched.

    I still have hope.

  • Lance Louis took a run at Willis and Bounced off him like a cartoon character as Willis then stuffed Forte for a loss.

  • I disagree about the run blocking part. We were actually getting about 4 yards early against a very stout run D.

    We actually had more 3rd and 2, 3rd and 3, situations than I can remember because of our run game.

    But inexplicably, Tice then switched to shotgun, effectively killing any play-action, boot, or god forbid, run play from our playbook.

  • The past few years, the Bears have always managed to lose the games that mattered the most because they get outcoached. The talent level is there, but what do you do with it if the other team already knows what move you're going to make next? The preparation has been lacking in these types of game and it just comes down to what the coach is doing to prepare the players mentally, and I just simply don't see the effort on the Bears coach to effectively coach up these gifted players.

    Lovie needs to fire up the players while on the sidelines, not after a loss and I am tired of the stuff he says because it is predictable and not inspiring at all.

  • In reply to burntorangenavyblue:

    I must agree entirely. A regime change is needed I think.

  • In reply to burntorangenavyblue:

    What makes it worse about the preparation is that if the coaches cannot come up with creative ways to beat their opponents, how are they able to effectively draft players and put them into positions that they have never played and know that it will work? How in the world does that help you to prepare your team for the season? If the Bears are a conservative team (due to ownership's and coach's philosophy), then drafting players to play positions that they are not suited for other than what they are known for is not being a smart, conservative football team (Hester experiment, Carimi not at LG, etc...)

  • In reply to burntorangenavyblue:

    But I'm not sure it's entirely the coaches. No one doubts that Marinelli fires up those D players, but where were they last night?

    It is more about scheme though because for some reason Lovie and gang thought a LB or Wright could cover Davis.

    What I would've done is put Peanut on him, and leave Jennings and and Hayden against their WRs. Or even Conte. Or play more cover 2.

    But none of the schemes matter if the pass rush doesn't get there, which it didn't.

  • From Da Site:
    The Bears coach believes that the offensive line will perform better than it did Monday night.

    "It has to," Smith said. "We've won seven games with that offensive line, and that's why. You have to look at the big picture with it. Tonight we didn't play well, so I can't make a case for many of us tonight. But overall we will. We have played better. We've been able to block guys. We've pass protected and of course [been effective] with the run."
    Until you play someone good, Lovie. Wake up!

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I guess Lovie forgot that the D helped us score more points at times than our O did, hence, the O line not needing to be on the field as much to suck and allow Cutler to get slaughtered.

    Lovie, Bears fans know what the big picture is and that is you will never win us the games that matter most if you're going to not hold anyone accountable and tell us this garbage crap of defending your players who cannot do their jobs.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    No Lovie, you won 7 games IN SPITE of that line. Just like winning games with the sex cannon.

  • WOW! The little bears really shit the bed. Hey, guess what, McLovie said "Uhh We're still in first place in our division" Uhhhh guess what, fucking meathead, no you're not! You were lucky to get that gift of a touchdown anyway. The refs tried has hard as they could to keep you losers in the game. That batting the ball out of bounds play (push in the back call) was a fucking joke, and everyone in the country knows it. I think Chili Rachal ended up with a higher passer rating than Campbell - nice try refs - If cuntler played the score would have been 32-7. Jared Allen is gonna ring your fucking necks sunday.

  • By the way, did ya'll know that trolls are dickless?

    Don't feed 'em.

  • Are the Bears a very good team? I think so, yes.

    Ahhhhh..... Jeff. Jeff. Jeff. Jeff.

    This is a mediocre team because of what MB has said time and time again: no O line. Bad coaching. Years of a terrible GM. This GM might actually be worse.

    That was an ass whupping.

    Lovie doesn't need his contract extended until after the season is over. If they implode and go to 8-8, then he has to go.

    I woke up today and reminded myself that Riley Reiff is playing well for the Lions, Backus went down and guess what? Reiff has stepped in and done a man's job.

    Meanwhile, Chicken Sinner has a headache.

    Welcome to Halas Hall.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Even if the Bears get into the playoffs, we still need to can Lovie and Co. after the season is over.

    Why? Because year after year we are relying too much on fate and fortune that allows us to get hot and rolling and other teams misfortune only to fall flat on our faces when reality shows up about the flaws and weaknesses that we have on this team (Head Coach, assistant coaches who are buddy buddies with the Head Coach, players being drafted into wrong positions, experiments, etc.). I know some of you don't see the advantages of firing Lovie and seeing Jay having to go through yet another offensive coordinator, but with Emery making some smart moves last offseason, I am willing to give him another year to make things right and how can it get any worse than this regime? Jay is young and smart enough to give it another go hopefully.

  • In reply to burntorangenavyblue:

    Somehow, Virginia has this weird thing about Lovie. Like not having about 11 kids was enough.

    Remember, Emery was hired with the instruction that he not fire Lovie this year. I doubt that he will be given more authority next.

  • Maybe Jeff could replace the pedo-bear with something kid friendly. You know... like... Elmo.

    (GP is passed a note from off-screen, reads it)

    Wait.... WHAT?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Couldn't agree more with your assessment of OL problems. Remember another miscalculation with Chris Williams as our first pick ? I guess our history of not being able to draft quarterbacks has spread to OT position as well. This problem reveals itself every time we play quality opponent. The amazing thing to me is that it has been several years now and the organization's denial of problem is glaring. If you are simply guessing with the draft as far as OT's then go after veteran linemen as free agents. You have to wonder if Cutler even wants to get behind that line after watching debacle from home. I've come to believe he is much tougher than some people give him credit for. I don't see us doing anything in playoffs and possibly this may be the same script as last year. Cutler goes down and team begins losing, and with this line keeps losing. The most important unit of any football team is the offensive line and you can look at all great teams and see that they have had one. Also very disappointed in offense with no imagination and one reason SF roookie succeeded is that our defense as good as it is, is easy to prepare for. We don't show a lot of different looks and yes we do what we do well but when you get front four blocked we have difficulty keeping up with receivers. We need new offensive coordinator who can game plan and make game time adjustments both of which Tice has struggled with. He also has not coached up this line. As talented as our defense is I would like them to use different schemes from time to time and keep offenses guessing and off balance. As far as coaches go Harbaugh looked like a genius against us and since he is a former Bear I am very jealous 49ers have him. He would be perfect fit for us. May be even time for Lovie to go. Wouldn't mind seeing Gruden in that position. I also miss Greg Olsen, another bad trade with our acquisition Chris Harris no longer with team. Our team keeps getting older is because new players we have drafted can't unseat current players on roster. A sign of bad drafts. Hard to be a Bears fan at times although I have enjoyed Hester's kick returns for several years although he has dropped off as well

  • Bear Jew is a beaten man. I have never in my life seen a OT get knocked back on his arse as many times a Carmini this year. You can't coach that up, just does not have the talent to engage and keep his balance. Webb is a queef. Gruden made a clear point, that no QB can be effective in a pocket that is always collapsing and you cannot step up to pass. Colin K had plenty of time to go through his reads and a clean pocket. That difference was the game, and unless we correct that...season over. I can't believe that we can't find 2 OTs to replace Webb queef and B.J. They are the weakest link, and will break this team if they don't look in the mirror and MAN UP. Also would be nice to locate Briggs and Peppers on the field sometime soon. Glass half full... F the Queens.

  • In reply to GuinnessPlease:

    Webb is a Queef. Good call on that. Carimi on the other hand is more of a wet fart.

  • stache...I think both shiete their pants last night....

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    almost interchangeable pants...the stains were the same.....

  • This ain't Southern Connecticut State, Holtster

  • In reply to gpldan:

    you incompetent fuck

  • I'd say the Bears left thier heart is San Francisco, but they clearly didn't have any heart last night.

  • BLOWN OUT!!!!????
    BLOWN OUT!!!!????
    more like BLOWN UP!!!! blogfader

    there was not one phase of the game that we were not SF's BITCHES!!!!

    how embarrassing a game from the coaching all the way down to the waterboy...sheeshh

    now I am not willing to throw in the way...

    but fuck you toothless trolls, assfucking your mother and sister does not equate that you know what the fuck you are talking about.

    that is all

  • Other than a few of you, I have more experience as a Bears fan. That really paid off last night. I turned off the TV when it was 10-0 and they were driving for another score (They hadn't crossed midfield but it was only another play or two away from that eventuality). It reminded me of watching the Rose Bowl when I was a kid. Michigan or Ohio St would go to Pasadena with 3 yds and a cloud of dust. USC or UCLA was always more innovative, more athletic, much faster and much better coached.

    To the new poster crying about the coaches. Gifted players? PLEASE. The coaches are mediocre, the players are no better. Marshall is a stud. Forte is better than avg. That takes care of the offense. Melton, Peppers (when healthy) and Tillman are better than avg (Jennings is on this list too but only this year). Gould and Mannelly are better than avg on ST's. Everyone else is avg or below. Gifted my ass.

    Hester, Briggs and #54 used to be studs but injuries and father time have caught up to them.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Canada...+1 on....
    Skunk, Briggsy and Lach

    as for the Skunk.."The Experiment" it is finally over...The BEARS have created a useless player on both #1 WR and HOF KR & PR....

  • Every time Lovie gets near the end of his contract I've said they should let him go. I don't post regularly here but I have from time to time since 2006. I'll say it yet again - though others have said it before me in this thread. His record in games of a clearly better opponent is horible. It isn't just losing - it's not being remotely competitive.

    Don't have the time to check, but WHEN was the last time they beat a team with a strong record that was playing well? Even this year, you can't count the Colts game because it was the first game of the season and the Colts had no film on this year's team - and it was Luck's first game. I believe they would lose easily to them now.

    Why is Tice OC? Because Lovie is on the bubble again. Why was Martz brought in? Because Lovie was on the bubble then. No decent OC would even think of coming here without some mid-term job security.

    Lovie HAS to go. The offense is HORRIBLE. I can allow the D a bad game without being critical - but we run very vanilla plays and predictable at that. Did your hear the 49ers yell out DRAW DRAW DRAW long before the draw play? If Emery wants this to be HIS team, he has to bring in HIS coach and staff. Get someone who realizes that it's NOT ILLEGAL to be strong in all three phases. Of course the cap limits that, but Lovie seems intent to win with D and ST only - as if contributions from the offense are not at all necessay.

    If Jay doesn't want another OC then let him walk. We'll need to draft a QB soon anyway if gets another concussion.

    But first build the OL!

    If they lose to the Vikings Sunday - which is VERY possible given AP being back to form - and the offense can't muster more than 1 TD, it's time to change play calling duties to Bates. And if they lose to the Vikings - it's time for Emery to make a statement that "everyone will be evaluated at the end of the season."

    We've been here too many times under Lovie. Time to realize he can reliably beat bad and mediocre teams, but not good ones.

  • In reply to BillW:

    That last sentence is indeed the Bears under Lovie ... all over.

  • The strongest quote from one of our players:

    “It was very frustrating. We didn’t come to play, plain and simple and it showed tonight. Those guys wanted it more than us. They gave 100 percent effort and we didn’t and it showed.”


  • In reply to lobotobear:

    the sheitest quote:

    “He said we have a lot of football to play. We’ll watch the film and put this behind us. We all have to get better and we’ll get a chance on Sunday.”

    question:What was Coach Lovie’s message to you guys?

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    That's the lie they're trying to sell themselves. It's better than the truth.

    They did try, but still got raped.

    They got manhandled by a team who is more talented, better coached, and hungrier than them on all 3 phases.

    That the "window" might have officially shut last night.

  • I'm honestly not as disappointed as many. Why? Because I was disillusioned from who our team REALLY is back in that first Packer game. That's when I saw a team with a good D, but nothing else. All the outrage a lot of regs are feeling now I spent on that game. I read the tea leaves. I'm past the 4 stages of grief since that game.

    Denial. The Bears can't be that bad, can they (oh, they aren't, against mediocre team or wild card teams at best.)?

    Anger. Read all the posts above or mine from after that Pack game.

    Bargaining. Hey, maybe we can bench Spencer. Maybe something will click in Webb. Just give Tice some time to develop as an OC.

    Depression. Shit. These aren't fixable mistakes. Is it the coaching, talent, execution? Is it too early for heavily spiked eggnog?

    Acceptance. I'd like to say we suck, but we don't, and that's actually part of the problem. We don't suck, we're mediocre. Isn't there something in the Lovie book about being lukewarm? There's more mediocre and bad teams in the NFL, and that will insure us a 9-7/10-7 season, and most likely a trip to the playoffs.

    In the playoffs, we'll do what we always do. LOSE. Only question is, when? If some team backed into the playoffs, we could get beyond the first round, maybe even the second round. With a great D and Special teams and homefield advantage, even to the big game, but eventually, we'll lose.

    Then, because we don't suck, we'll get a low end pick, and continue to draft good (at best) not great players, which is the story of the Bears.

    Rinse, wash, repeat.

    Accept it as I have my fellow Bears fans. I still hold out HOPE that something miraculous will happen - that Lovie will get creative and unpredictable. That our O will FINALLY confound an elite D. That our Oline will "gel" together. That this ass-whooping will forge a fire and identity to a team that has lacked one all season, but didn't Einstein define madness as trying the same thing and expecting different results?

    Oh, well, any Bears fan is a little mad, so I'll keep watching because I'm irrational like that.

  • well said..... 4E85....."well said"

  • In reply to lobotobear:


  • Watching the Bears often feels like a lifelong prison sentence, and this little dialogue always replays in my mind after big losses.


    Neil Hayes in the Sun-Times, blaming Mike Tice. I don't agree with all he says (for example, saying Martz was better because at least you knew what he was trying to do), but I very much agree with this:
    " Monday night’s 32-7 thumping at the hands of the 49ers was the latest glaring example of Tice’s inability to devise a successful game plan. He can’t call a game, either. There’s a gift to calling plays that puts players in position to succeed. Tice clearly doesn’t have it, which is why Lovie Smith should give play-calling duties to quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates while Tice focuses on shoring up a line that appeared to be playing on ice Monday night."

  • In reply to BillW:

    Welcome to the party Hayes.

    I only said this weeks ago. Like I said then, if the Bears do it "unofficially" (behind the scenes promoting Bates, demoting Tice to Oline coach), that' fine by me.

    What this will entail, who knows? but It can't be worse.

  • Anybody see this?

  • Yeah, he said it was minor, so I am not too alarmed, but then again when it comes to knees, how minor is minor?

  • In reply to 505 Bears!!:

    minor enough that he needs an arthroscopic scoping and will miss at least 2 games. awesome.

    mark bradley was a 2nd round wr with knee issues, too.

  • Leave this game and move on..Bottom line, we need to get nasty. We play too "happy." I want to seem some assholeness when we are blocking or knocking the shit out of someone, legally of course. I hate when they are smiling and having fun. Watch some tape of the 85 D and look at the intensity and edge they played with. We don't have it, and teams that do, beat us badly.

  • In reply to 505 Bears!!:

    Yeah, I don't like it either. A lot of people gave Lach shit for high fiving Manning when when he got a turnover against us, and I didn't see the big deal, but overall I don't like seeing it. We don't have a "regulator" to instill fear into opposing teams on O or D.

    When the scariest guy on your team is a center (olin), something is lacking.


  • In reply to 505 Bears!!: mean like the pancakeblocking SF's OL did on our front four all night long....good god ...our DL was like a door knob everyone got a turn to F us up.

  • Last night all I could think (as Gruden was emphasising the fact that there is no way to scheme for the Niner O and their umpteen formations) was how much I miss Tyler Clutts...

    It's never a bad thing for a good team to be humbled. Thank God that wasn't the performance that sent us into the offseason. We have a short week and a date with the Vikings.

  • In reply to Viva:

    sad part ex "BEAR" (SF headcoach) just showed another ex "BEAR" (MV headcoach) how to make a "BEAR"(CB headcoach) hibernate...

    GP ...did you see what I did?

  • In reply to lobotobear:

  • In reply to gpldan:


  • I was just outside, and I'm pretty sure some sky fell.

    I'm escared.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    tee hee hee...

    WWG "Just go into the Light"

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    I think I'm going to go watch Donnie Darko.

  • One thing about Martz that I do miss is the quick hot read passing routes.
    Jay combined with a hot read and a nice mix of Forte/Bennett/Olsen got us to the NFC Title Game.

    The quick routes need to come back. The slot guys have to be targeted more when teams are blitzing balls out.

    I'm done till Saturday. Vikings dead. Cutty come back!!!!

  • I keep seeing all the let Tice work on the line, let him shore it up. Look, the mother fucker cant do it. Maybe he would make a good TE coach, although Kellen Davis hasnt exactly blossomed with Tice around. It's become painfully clear that his influence on the offense is non existent at the best and detrimental at the worse. I'm voting detrimental. Apparently he can neither judge talent or coach our talent up. Neither Cookie or Carimi were considered reaches or bad picks by anyone of the professional evaluators. So, do we have the worst luck or are our coaches inept at coaching our picks up to play in the NFL? I think we win in spite of some of our coaches. I know the players seem to like Lovie as their coach, but the coaches need to be held accountable and Lovie has not retained an innovative O co-ordinator since he has been here. I really believe it's time for change. Please don't extend Lovies contract!!

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    If it's his only responsibility, I think Tice is a good position coach. While I'd love an innovative OC, I'd settle for a reasonably competent one - someone who can game plan and call plays and adjust in game.

    Coaches are not being held accountable - that is an excellent point. We'll see if Emery has any real authority there.

  • another great quote to digest:

    "Jim Harbaugh was playing chess Monday Night; Bears OC Mike Tice was playing Connect Four"
    - Gregg Rosenthal

  • hell I didn't realize they got a close-up of what the SF-Defense did to our OL all night

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Yup looked like schoolyard football where you had one guy snapping the ball and everyone running out to catch a pass....The OLine was non-existant.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    I found a video of Shady playing MW3

  • In reply to gpldan:

    damn it GP..that's "The Governator"...

    or this was the first Quarter of the SF "D" going against our O...I think I saw Webb and there Bear Jew as Cameo's in this...

  • In reply to gpldan:


  • I am embarrassed and ashamed of how the Bears played on Monday night! The Bears owned a two game lead over the Packers and now they are tied, really the Beats are in 2nd place since they loss to the Packers earlier in the year. The offensive line did not attack, push or grind down the 49ers defensive front! Is there a reason why the offensive line does not engage at the point of attack rather just stand at the point of the center handing the football to the quarterback?

    Peppers was doubled teamed and the ends and the tackles did not deliver any pressure!

    For the Bears to have a defensive minded head coach and a guru of a defensive coordinator, the defense played like JV defense! It's one thing to lose, but losing on a nationally televised game to a Head Coach that Mike Dikta beat down like thief when that coach Quarterbacked the Bears is simply an unforgiving act! I love my Bears, but Lovie Smith is not the type of head coach the Bears need or require! The Bears got beat in the manner the Mike Dikta coached Bears team use to beat down teams. I miss those 15-1, 14-2, 11-5, 11-5, 11-4, and 10-6 teams! Seven playoffs, six division titles, one Superbowl title! Oh how I miss the Mike Dikta Decade!!!

  • In reply to Darrylx77:

    Your memory might be a tad fuzzy. That D had pro bowlers up and down the line. The O line was very talented. If anything, we should have won more SB's. By the end of his tenure he was a caricature of himself.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    His memory is fuzzy because he's a fucking fudgepacker troll.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I'm not sure if they're trolls or special.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    "That D had pro bowlers up and down the line."

    Averaging 238 in the Dick Webb er open.

  • In reply to jack:

    Don't forget Marshall Holman!

  • In reply to Darrylx77:

    Oh god, if this shit wasn't bad enough, now I gotta read more crap about the most overrated coach in the history of the NFL.

  • This will be the intro Video at Soldier Field of "Cutty" coming back this Sunday....and the three @ 42 seconds I think are Garza.Webb.& Bear Jew...enjoy

    this is for you MB

  • The schedule makers aren't doing us any favors. We get the BiQueens on a short week. They're coming off their bye. Thanks NFL.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    The only good part of last night was my boy Nick "The Feelin" singing a Bill Withers song on the Voice. Kind of a fitting song to hear after the debacle last night.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    NICE! Definitely has a good voice. I don't watch these types of shows because American Idol turns out a bunch of Shrieking Banshees that throw every vocal trick in the book into every song. I hate to contradict Dolly Parton but less is more.

    B.B. King recorded a great Bill Withers tune, Love Over Gold. One of my faves.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:


    I seconded that emtion below.

    Didn't mean to steal your thunder.

  • If folks need to cheer up, the Zep fans on here will enjoy this...

  • Make no mistake about it, the Vikings game Sunday is a must win. If the Bears lose they're in third place in the division staring down a barrel and Leslie Fraziar could be holding the gun.

    Happy Thanksgiving everybody!

  • Well, the Bears got their clocks cleaned last it's regroup time...make a new plan Stan and come out a swingin. They can still make a run of it. It's all in their hands. All we can do is sit back, get depressed, beat the wife and kiss the dog, get totally wasted and run through the streets...naked. (That'd be scarier than tornader in a trailer park!)

  • In reply to MaddBearfan:

    How do you teach blocking to someone who can't block?

    By the way, leave the wife beating bestiality crap to the Green Bay fans.

  • Geez, Jeff, put up the updates for Da Contest posthaste that way we can distract ourselves from the 9er trauma.

    Also, Da FF leagues are in high gear and almost in the playoffs.

    Newbear is in 1st at 9-2 in the auction league, and looking like the favorite. But, you never know. He just got beat down by Tobi who was 1-6-3. That's right, Tobi somehow tied THREE times lol

    In Irish's league with the standard draft Gault and SamHurd's Mexican Cell are both 10-1 and looking dominant.

    Unfortunately, there's some absentee owners which sorta skew the whole thing, but it's still fun.

    Don't know how Artoo's crazy 16 team league is doing. Maybe he can fill us in on that one.

  • Watch out, I'm movin' up with a bullet, baby. That was the only bright spot for me this week. I know the Bears in seasons past have had debacles and gotten back on track but Monday night took the starch out of me. The warning signs were there, a number of DBB regs (you know who you are) weren't fooled but I really thought we were ready to play with the big boys. Guess not. I'll be really suprised if we don't make the playoffs and even more suprised if we survive the first round....

  • Jeffrey is having knee surgery tomorrow

  • Ashlon, we hardly knew ye...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    And the hits just keep on comin.

  • Fuck me! Emery's first draft; concussed Chicken Dinner, Jeffery misses 10 games, Hardin gets redshirted, Rodriguez is a blocking dummy and, and, and, that's it. WONDERFUL!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    That pretty much puts it in perspective. BTW, early odds on the Vikings game is a pick'em....

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    You have to count Marshall as well

  • And now, a word from our (very depressed) sponsor:


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  • Once again, the schedule maker sticks it to the Bears.

    Fly to "Frisco on a Monday and then face a division rival who is coming off their bye.

    Thank you for that cherry on top of this sundae.

  • Alshon Jeffrey.

    Ouch, dammit!

  • I'm going to skip Thanksgiving dinner.

    I'm still full from having to swallow that turkey the Bears served up on Monday night.

  • "Bear Jew"?

    Plays more like

    Gabe "Cream-me".

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Jew cream? I can't believe you went there, Al. Shame on you.

  • Everyone here has to praise MB for his relentless ranting of wanting new OL. I was highly optimistic regarding the line since they seemed to sorta gel last year. Optimism can only go so far, now I'm just pissed and totp it off, my supervisor is a SF and he and his minions have talked so much shit, I might get fired. Anywho, GO BEARS! FUCK YOU JWEBB AND YOU BUM-ASS, NATION!!!!!!!

  • In reply to OsosFan:

    It wasn't only MB, if you look back over the past three years. But that's ok, MB can carry the torch.

  • We still have Cutler & Marshall. Thats more than we could say last turkeyday.

    Emery should just trade ALL our draft picks for veterans.

  • Reality check in random fashion.

    3rd fewest points allowed
    Only three losses. All to top teams in NFL, two of them on the road.
    Bears beat the Texans if Cutler plays second half.
    Bears laid a total egg Monday night but how many teams are going into Candlestick and winning with a backup QB this year? Not many.
    Fake field goal on 4th and forever plus a BM dropped touchdown make the difference in GB.
    Tired of hearing about the schedule. We're ten games in and these are the teams in the league. Is there a team out there that's playing elite teams week in and week out and winning? No.
    You think the Packers are elite? Go look at their wins on the season and take a deep breath. They've got close wins all over their record against shit teams.
    Not sign Cutler? What's your alternative? There's a better QB available and willing? No.
    Fire Lovie? Fine. Grass is always greener until you hire Jim Schwartz.
    Everybody knows Angelo sucked, and yet Lovie fields a winning team until you take away the starting QB.
    Cutler appears to be a fucking magician when compared to Campbell's performance.
    Mike Tice is overmatched at OC and won't be in that role next year.

  • Well it's wendsday and i am just starting to eat solid foods after that debackel in San Fransisco i hate to say this but i told you so, everytime the bears go down that lousy park in san fran they get there ass kicked always. I never matters how good or how bad this team is they never go to san fran a win, only once and that was in 1985 when we kicked there ass out there Wally ran for 132 yds and Dent had 3 sacks himself. So what happened out there monday nite is just one of those games against the niner's, but i must say that 23 sacks in 3 games really blows, so what do we do, I say sit all of them and put 5 new guys out there and see waht happens they cant do any worse.


  • Ive been saying for years now that Lovie relies to much on the defense getting turnovers and scoring off those turnovers. And the special teams getting field position for the offense, never have we had an offense that can score 3 touchdowns a game ON THEIR OWN starting at their own 20 and driving the length of the field and not settling for field goals.

  • Four years ago they spend a ton on an up and coming young QB and fours years later they still haven't put an offensive line in front of him. Now Cutler is damaged goods and he may never be what he could of been. The good teams in the league long ago learned how to eat the archaic moribund Tampa 2 defense alive inNov/Dec. and especially the playoffs. Chico gets ran out of town because he knew the defense had to change. No modern day OC candidate will come come here so we get the has been Martz and then Tice. They half way clean house but keep Smith because the McCaskey's won't and can't afford to eat 12+ mil of Smith's salary. Emery drafts Urlacher's replacement and Smith makes him into a three point DE knowing all along that Smith's 2012 team will collapse and finally he will bring in a 21 century HC. In the meantime we fans sit through another season of anger ,frustration and another collapse. If you were Cutler would you sign an extension? Please please please Virginia don't give Smith an extension,because Bear fans it could happen.

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