Sunday NFL Games Thread, or Go San Francisco!

I just figured I'd stick this video on the site for the day. Why? Because I actually sat through about thirty-five minutes and realized I was losing my mind.

"Let's talk about grip!"

Today root for two games: Ravens over Eagles, 49ers over Lions.

Also take a look at the Rams and Redskins down in St. Louis as you begin your scouting efforts for next week at Soldier Field.

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  • OK, as tempting as it might be, none of you tweet the link to this vid to Jay. You know he's not going to change....

  • ADMINISTRATIVE REMINDER: If you haven't given your pick for the week and would like to, do so on the previous post. I have everyone in the system up through "BobbyDouglass". Good luck.

  • Reminder to Doc and Fifth to get your picks in. BTW, you can copy your picks from one league to the other using the Import Picks button on the right sidebar. That'll save you some work if you want to use the same picks for both leagues.

    Irish, you want to join us again this year? Got a spot open for you still. Anyone else want to moonlight in both leagues? I'll note only 2 people finished above the Mendoza line (68 points) last week in the DBB league, but the Chicken Dinner league has 4... Anyhow, any of you are welcome to join us: Group ID# 22779 / Password: shea.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    Totally spaced it out this week Michael. Got home from work just before the Bear game, then left town early the next morning. Gotta start making my picks on Wednesdays.

  • David Haugh interviewing Big Cat Williams is fucking lunacy. How many different writers can find different linemen to disparage the QB in an attempt to get their names back into the spotlight and get pageviews.

    This is out of control. I hope Cutler just fakes an apology to get everyone off his back. Then I hope Tice starts acting like a coordinator and calls games that make a shred of fucking sense so Cutler doesn't get fucking killed on the field.

    When are we going to fully understand how bad the line and gameplans are? When Cutler has a fucking leg fall off on the field? When he goes into a fucking coma? Will we draft or sign a competent Lineman then? holy fucking shit.

  • In reply to Waffle:


  • In reply to BlitzKrieg:

    end it

  • Take that! Jeeeeez.

  • Where the F is everybody?

  • well, i'm watching the Eagles get their hopes and dreams crushed by Vick. He will be let off of the hook by everyone though because he apologizes better than Jay.

  • Wholly shit. Bernard Pollard just leveled Celek. This Eagles Ravens game is fuckin awesome. I'm calling the Ravens to be in the Super Bowl, even without Sugges for the majority of the season. Falco is going to take a major step up this year.

  • In reply to Crown:

    best part of the hit was the refs not miscalling it a headshot.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    is "miscalling" even a word?

  • It's a word if you believe it is. Exactly, Waff. Even with the rule changes and scab refs, that was as legit of a hit as you can get. This game is nasty and very high intensity. Coordinators mixing it up with players, lots of scuffles. Not changing the channel.

  • In reply to Crown:

    well, i'm making up a new word. We already have the verb, "To Hanie"

    To Hanie (v) - to fuck something up so substantially and thoroughly when even the smallest amount of success or competency would result in positive results.
    "Timmy Hanied the fuck out of that TPS report. All he had to do what print the document that I created for him."

    To Vick (v) - to Hanie a task while being paid 20 million but to let off the hook upon looking sincere when apologizing.
    "Timmy Vicked that fucking report up so bad. I can't believe that motherfucker gets paid that much money. I'll give him another chance though because I could tell he really felt bad about it. The account? We fucking lost it but I don't care, i think that guy has good intentions."

  • In reply to Waffle:

    very good, very good indeed.

  • Blaine Gabbert 4/11 for 13 yards. If we let that scrub throw anywhere close to 100 yards in week 5 I hope Marinelli starts taking names.

    I too am watching the Iggles. I thought the Ravens D would drop off without Suggs, but man they are fierce. Vick getting hit on every play and as you guys have already said, props to Pollard for that tackle. I hope someone levels Desean Jackson, that guy is one of the biggest bitches I've ever seen.

  • It was weird to see Andy Reid get out coached (Lovie style) in the last minute of the first half.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    Nothing weird about that, his time management is almost as bad as Lovie's. Great kick by the rook as well.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Almost as bad? Reid is the worst in the league. Lovie looks like a HOF'er compared to Reid.

  • Eli, 3 picks in first half against Tampa. It's ok though.

  • Giants playing like ass as well. Dark horse bucs?

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    i don't think so, the Giants were given a spot in the playoffs last year. They blew ass all year. Bucs are terrible as well.

  • When people talk about Joe Flacco as an elite qb I look for the nearest sharp object to jam into my leg to find out if I am asleep or not.

  • In reply to Waffle:


  • Vick sucks cock. Shitty pass to a covered receiver results in 2nd INT of the game heading into the red zone. A 3rd was dropped by a LB on a pass that a talented gradeschool defender would have caught.

    I'm confident that we will be just fine this year. It's just that the media won't let it go man. They are going to keep writing articles about Cutler until it is a self fulfillin prophecy or the guy fucking snaps. Instead of seeing the positives in the last 2 years it is more important to have people click on the story for internet pageviews.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    I hear ya.

    Pop Quiz: You may draw your answers from the following list of people. Ben Rothlisberger, Jay Cutler, Mike Vick

    Who's a known dog killer?

    Who's a rapist?

    Who get's killed by the media and fans alike, seemingly endlessly?

  • or

    who's one of the most overrated qb's in the league that get's a pass because he has cred with his boys in the league.

    who's a fucking 2 time rapist who get's a pass from Dad's and Mom's through their fanbase because he won a superbowl.

    who is treated like he raped and killed a kitten on live TV while shouting gay slurs and verbally supporting Al Qaeda.

  • Oakland: the only team in the NFL that can make Miami look good.

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    In reply to DYLbear23:

    Stadium was near empty

  • ha, the only thing you couldn't do is get sacked he loses 13 yards. Saved by his he remains an elite qb.

  • Flacco singlehandedly gave Vick a win. Thanks Joe you fucking pedestrian.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    But it's fine, he didn't shout at his tackles for letting defenders get past them, and he can still throw a ball really really hard, so he's still elite.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    4th quarter drive, all of Flaccos passes looked like limp wrested lobs.

    Guy was throwing alley oops... No zingers.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    I agree completely, especially that pass to his TE on 3rd and 2 at the death. I was (extremely loosely) paraphrasing Jeff who thinks he'lll be all-pro this year.

  • chargers fucking destroying the titans. That titans team is brutal... jake locker is the embodiment of brutal.

  • and btw, hey saints... are you fucking kidding? Really? fucking -2.5!?!? Jesus.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That would've been my upset match of the week. Panthers didn't like getting the score run up on them last year. At home, against a division rival. No bueno.

    That's why I started both my Panther's WRs this week. Saints are gonna have a long year. I still think they make the wild card, but it's gonna be tough sledding, that's for sure.

  • that would have helped BEFORE my pick $

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I picked the raiders. I also picked the Bills last week. And I'm the wanker who wanted a Pick 'em league.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Too bad this guy got removed before the game for those rooting for the Saints this week.


  • In reply to Shady:

    saw that. idiot

  • Funny. Chargers have NO run game. 2 yds and a cloud of dust.

  • Oh, and if you guys aren't watching the Skins-Rams game (isn't that a condom?), you should. I don't know why, but these guys are going at it like two starving pitbulls for the last chicken bone.

  • Is Chris Johnson really this bad? Can a guy who rushed for 2,000 yds really fall off a cliff like this in his prime without the excuse of an injury?

    This is unprecedented. I mean, he would go down as the Haynesworth of offense if that were the case.

    I guess you can never put to much faith in a guy with gold teef.

  • NFL starting QB's in categories of my making. Within each category, I've ranked the QB's according to the order in which I would want them to lead my team

    Undeniable Top Tier QB's SB winners only
    1. Tom Brady
    2. Aaron Rodgers
    3. Drew Brees
    4. Eli Manning Agree or not, his two SB performances alone put him here, plus he does put up numbers and is not the same QB that he used to (like Cutty) have the semi-regular shit-the-bed day.
    5. Payton Manning he may be past his prime, but there's no denying he belongs here
    6. Ben Rothlisberger I'm on the fence with this one. But in my mind, other than his off field shit, he's a great QB

    Tier 2 QB's These guys have the talent and/or numbers that would lead us as fans to believe that they are on the cusp of that top tier, but just haven't quite gotten there yet.

    1. Jay Cutler kind of starting to think it's only his attitude that is holding him back. I don't like the media driven hatred for him, but I admit, he's a pouty motherfucker who throws lots of interceptions
    2. Philip Rivers I love his competitive spirit and unlike Jay, he seems to have fun out there. Unlike some on this blog, I really like Rivers
    3. Matt Ryan Part overrated, part Joe Cool. I do like his style though
    4. Matt Stafford Is it him, or megatron? I don't know, plus he's brittle and a lesbian
    5. Matt Schaub Is it him, or Andre Johnson? I for some reason, am not a believer in Matt, but his numbers tell me he belongs here. Am I wrong?
    6. Mike Vick Wanna hate him, but he IS really fun to watch when he's not sucking. But he does suck on occassion and he's very brittle.
    7. Joe Flacco Ultimate game manager QB in my mind. He's got the tangibles, but I'm not sold on the intangibles yet
    8. Tony Romo Didn't know where to put him. This category seemed the best fit. Maybe I need new categories.

    Tier 3 I reserve this tier for players on the rise but due to not enough years of service, I am prohibited from putting them in the first two tiers

    1. Cam Newton I believe he'll be great but it's to soon for tier one or two
    2. Robert Griffith III See Newton, Cam
    3. Andy Dalton Great rookie season, we'll see.
    4. Sam Bradford Kinda brittle, not sold yet but the media seems to love him

    Tier 4 Some of these guys are rookies that haven't shown me enough yet, some of them are has-beens, and some of them are just plain question marks. They don't deserve individual comments yet or rankings for the most part

    1. Andrew Luck Should probably be in tier 3, but since he didn't look great in his only NFL week so far, I can't do it on college rep alone.
    Christian Ponder
    Alex Smith
    Russel Wilson
    Kerry Colb
    Josh Freeman
    Mark Sanchez
    Ryan Tannehill
    Ryan Fitzpatrick
    Brandon Weeden
    Matt Cassel
    Carson Palmer
    Blaine Gabbert for some reason, I know nothing about Blaine Gabbert

    So why is Cutty criticized so much? I think it's because people know that he has the talent to be top tier but many suspect that it's his attitude that prevents him from being there. And it's not a Jeff George thing where he just doesn't seem to care, because he does. It's his leadership qualities that are lacking. You can yell at your guys if you do it right. Marino, Fouts, Aikman, there were lot's of yellers. But those guys made you want to follow them. I'm not sure Cutty has that quality that makes a leader easy to follow. Notice that only seven QB's in the league have won the SB. If cutty can get his, he'll get his comeuppance.

  • Good ratings doc, I agree completely. The only thing I know about Gabbert is that it takes a secondary as bad as the Vikings for him to break 100 yards throwing. He is awful - this decades Joey Harrington or David Carr.

    I want Jay to get his kid on his shoulders to hold the Lombardi while he stands on the podium giving the middle finger to all of the media after earning superbowl MVP.

  • it's because in critical, very important games, against our most hated rivals, he shits the bed in the most publically terrible and complete manner.

    He's the guy you simply can't trust. You know what he's capable of, because we've all seen it.... but when will he be that guy, or when will he be the guy from Thursday?

    I think that’s my core definition of an elite QB…. He’s the guy you can trust to be there for you when you need him.

    Jay is the diametric opposite…. Most unfortunately.

  • I like the Tier system Doc. I don't know how important wins are to your system, but I think Ponder belongs in Tier 3. Surely he is someone a team could attempt to build an offense around.

  • Omiyale getting called for false starts while starting for Seattle. Imagine the fright I got when the commentators then said he's been doing well this game against Demarcus Ware.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    jesus, he got another fucking job!?!?!!?

    ...IN THE NFL?!?!??!!

  • So guess who started RGIII in Football: G&D edition?



    Bears are going to roll Rams and then Cowboys. I know that a win in the NFL doesn't count unless it's against the Pats, Saints, Packers and apparently now the Texans but I'll still take pleasure in seeing the Bears score repeatedly on both clubs.

    Vick and Flacco are embarassing. Vick has been carried to two victories where he himself has caused them to lose only to be saved by even worse play by his opponents.

  • Anyone got a link to breakdown of Favs vs. underdogs? I'm thinking underdogs are on top so far this season. Unless my perception is skewed by some of the outrageous upsets so far (NE this week leading the pack). I can't imagine there's any methodology for consistently making money betting on NFL games. On any given Sunday for sure.....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Nope. Betting on the NFL is a fools errand.

    Other equally foolish endeavours...

    Trying to make your wife bi, searching for El Dorado, shark surfing...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    you can see the breakdown each week on the pick em site.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    I'm afraid to look, I'm getting smoked so bad there.....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Yeah the going's rough, but if you click on the league and then select the 'group picks' tab, you can see the dogs up the top and everyones individual picks underneath. Needless to say, we all got buggered by the bears this week.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Btw, I imported by picks from the DYL league to the Chicken dinner league and my confidence points did not transfer.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    I had that issue as well initially, but I just tried it a couple more times and I got it. Did you go into the CD league and import on that pick screen? If you did, well, I'm stumped.

  • that song is really bad... but faith hill is so fucking hot. MeYOW man!

    I bet she looks great naked.

  • what would have been funny is if the Vikes won today (almost did) and the Lions lose.

    Vikes 2-0 and atop the NFCN.

    How about them apples?


  • Alex Smith with 254 passes without an int (including playoffs).

    He's not sexy, but at least he gives his team a chance to win. He's like NeckBeard on steroids.

  • the uncutty?

  • Sweet drive by the 49ers, showing the butch lesbian how its done.

  • I seriously think the Meows are scared.

  • Does the NFL not watch film? Megatron makes ALL his big plays in the slot. I noticed this last year.

    Maybe it's just protection issues.

  • damn, SF's D is fucking good man.

  • The Lions head coach = 21st-century Forrest Gregg

  • Though, to be fair, sometimes the Bears' head coach = 21st-century Forrest Gump

  • Challenge flags are like a box of chocolates?

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Momma always says, "Stupid is as Lovie does."

  • If I was Peyton Manning, I would've taken a sizable pay cut and gone to play for San Fran. The team is loaded, and with a top-flight QB, they'd be SB favorites for years. Not to mention he'd more than make up the pay cut in "I'm going to Disneyland" commercial endorsements.

  • I wouldn't be suprised if he made almost as much on endorsements as he does playing. The guy is everywhere...

  • In reply to tobijohn:


  • I called it about around February that Manning would go play for the 49ers.

    However, Manning probably wouldn't want to listen to Harbaugh and would probably tell him to STFU. Plus, the pressure of knowing that Manning would have to take that team to the SuperBowl would be too much for him. Manning never did like having that kind of pressure on his back.

    That being said, did Mikey leave a great team for Harbaugh or did Harbaugh make them the way they are now?

  • Let's see Super, Harbaugh was a huge success at Stanford and hasn't missed a beat since joining the Forty Whiners. Sngletary dropped his pants at half time. Singletary is responsible for Vernon Davis growing up and becoming the player he is but was totally over matched as a HC.

  • God I hate the lions. Kill those cunts 9ers

    Btw, I need your help guys. In my new pad, I am looking for a BIG signature piece to go above my bed. Something that really makes a statement and sets the mood. Something 'fine artish'. I'm willing to invest in the piece, so it can be reasonably spendy (my first real piece of art).

    I've been looking online all day at tons of art galleries. I think I finally found something I really really like. So what do you think…. I’m thinking of going with this

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Self portrait. Nice.

    I got a Mw3 disc. But you should still play CSGO.

    Gems & Dragons! Huzzah!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Is that a mirror above your bed, or is that just a black mamba coming out of your groin?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Every man dies, not every man really lives.


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I know what it's from amigo. Just thought of something that I could look at or read above my bed every night and that line from Braveheart was it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Fuck that shit. Get a large, framed B&W photograph from one of your favorite places. You can't go wrong with that. It will always be one of your favorite places and you'll never get tired of looking at the photo. Of course, I might be biased since I'm married to a photographer that specializes in B&W. B&W is always "artistic" and it will give you a chance to tell the latest Little Love Dove something personal about yourself. Can't miss! I'm thinking some surfing spot, Big Sur, etc.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    good call Canada. I was actually joking with the above. It's from the movie Dinner with Schmucks (which if you haven't seen you NEED to:

    But I actually am looking for a signature piece above the bed... good advice.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    A giant mirror in an artsy frame to make it look classy and cover up it's true purpose.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Good one!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Whew! I've never seen the movie. I was hoping you were kidding but there's no accounting for taste.

    You could be like A-Rod (NYY). He has not one but 2 paintings in his place of him as half man, half horse. How fucked up is that? I always knew he was a giagantic douche and all his teammates hate him but when I saw him getting fed popcorn by Cameron Diaz it was beyond lame.

  • dude, just a fucking great game call by the oc and alex smith

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Is it wrong to enjoy watching the lesbian get raped?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    not this one. get online now!

  • I just came up with a few useless stats. Only 6 teams will be undefeated after tomorrow night's game, and six teams will be win-less. The other 20 teams will be 1-1. Every home team won this week except the Jags and Patriots.

  • This will make Waffle happy...

    Lot of #Bears fans have wanted Bill Cowher as coach. He put Jay Cutler on notice this morning -- playoffs or else.

    “I think it’s a problem,” Cowher said this morning on the CBS pregame show of the quarterback's actions in the loss Thursday at Green Bay. “When you look at it, this guy has got a strong arm, there is no question about it but he has had some protection issues. I know there has been some questionable (play) calling but listen, they brought players in to help this guy win a championship and he’s got to prove to be more accountable, not sensationalize every little mistake with his antics and body language. Listen, he’s a good quarterback but if he does not change his ways and this team does not go to the playoffs, you have to seriously consider another direction. He has to change.”

    Packers game adversity will either make or break this team. It's up to Cutler and the coaches to use this opportunity to get better, not worse.

  • In reply to Shady:

    ...Not that they could get much worse after last Thursday night.

  • In reply to Shady:

    bring bill in. Lovie's had his turn.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I like Lovie but wouldn't complain if they brought in Cowher. Not sure the Bears would pay him what he wants. Gotta agree with Cowher about Cutler.

    Did you see the cheapshot by Tampa at the end of the game? That douchebag Schiano is going to get someone hurt doing that playground bullshit.

  • Sunday observations...

    Welcome back to Earth, Cowboys, Redskins, Vikings, Jets, Lions, Bucs, Ravens (Thanks for NOTHING, Baltimore).

    Joe Flacco, C'MON MAN, you look like a complete PUTZ complaining about the fake officials after a game in which you went, what(?), something like 7 of 23 in the 2nd half.

    Isn't it amazing how MORTAL Tom Brady looks when he doesn't have an All-pro protecting his blind side.

    Is "Gostkowski" Polish for "Wide Left"?

    Is Al Davis REALLY dead?
    Just askin' because "Da Raidas" sure look like he's still running the show.

    I am CONVINCED I have "The Kiss of Death" and here's the evidence:

    My pick last week- New Orleans.

    My pick this Week- New Engalnd.

    First pick in my fantasy draft: Megatron
    ( still looking for his first TD of the season).

    My fantasy kicker: Stephan Gostkowski ,so I KNOW I'm gonna miss those last 3 points he didn't make today.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    please god don't pick the bears or any of our players for ANYTHING Al

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Too late. I have Bush and Gould.

    I promise I'll make sure my pick of the week this time is THE RAMS!

  • I've thought about this accusation for awhile and have decided to move forward with it after seeing the tackle several times:

    Charles Woodson tackled Forte like that on purpose. He did exactly what a horsecollar does to the knees, ankles and back of the legs but he managed to do it in a way that no one would notice and that they wouldn't flag. Forte was heading out of bounds, Woodson really had to tackle him from behind and pull his body backwards while Woodson's body buckled Forte's legs? It was a bullshit move and it fucks up knees and ankles.

    Mission accomplished Woodson you fucking cheapshot artist.

  • You know, Schiano has a point that makes Coughlin look old and senile: Coughlin thinks it is unsafe to go full speed on a play that is implied unimportant. Although, If the Giants realize that a professional team might want to play 100% until the final second, then the best way to avoid an injury is for both lines go full at it?
    Didn't the Cowgirls do the same aggressive - last series crap to us a few years back, and of course, didn't Buck and Aikman get a chuckle out of the whole ordeal?

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    Don't remember the Girls/Bears scenario. It was a BS move on Schiano's part. Somebody is going to get hurt eventually. From this point on nobody will take a knee against the Bucs as long as Schiano's there. Why add a few extra collisions to a game that is over? Really bush league.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Agreed. This "play into the whistle" schtick only flies in college. A lot of teams are now gonna run it right at the Bucs and score it up. "play to the whistle" goes both ways.

  • i played with a nose tackle that had quick enough hands to swipe the ball out of the centers hands once he moved it. He got flagged for it a couple of times but got away with it at least twice that i know of. Imagine how furious that coach was.

  • I was just reading that Bush started out as a QB in college. Time for the halfback option? It would be great to break that out against a tough opponent.

    Watched the Forty Whiners vs Kitties game. SF's D is for real. If we can slow down their run game it would be interesting to see what Smith can do. It's a road game so I doubt we win that one. Looking at the schedule the Panthers, Texans, Fudgies and Seattle at home and SF, Girls and Kitties on the road look like our toughest games. If we can split those games and win the ones we should things still look good.

  • Greg Schiano had his guys attempt to create a turnover, with time running out, because his team was in a one possession battle. The purpose of every game is to win. Am I missing something?

    The G men need to remove the sand from their clits.

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    I took a break from the Bears. After 6 months of hyperventilating over the weapons and following every crumb of news... to see the exactly the same shit we've seen for the last 4 years, nearly broke my spirit.

    My thoughts are that I really hated having the Thursday night game. The entire offense was inept. The defense looked good. Now I'm worried St. Louis is going to take us to the shed.

    So on to week 3

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    "Did we give up after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"

  • In reply to Viva:

    "the germans?"
    "forget it, he's rolling"

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Bears win by 20 and then we roll into the Dallas game and stomp on their tiny Dallas penises.

  • Well, I may not be as upset as I was Thurs nite, but as far as Cutty is concerned he was dead on on jumping on the lineman the way he did. These guys have been playing long enough together to not allow a lot of the shit that happened. Too many easy passes dropped that could have helped turn things around as well, and even Cutty joined in.
    We have to remember too that we have a new O coordinator and it make take awhile to get used to him. All we can do is "WAS" what happens.
    Maybe cutting Tyler Klutz wasn't the smartest thing after all. He has to be a better blocker than Forte on max protection.

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