The Importance of Melton in the Middle

The Importance of Melton in the Middle

To read my immediate recap of Saturday night's preseason game with the Redskins, CLICK HERE. Here's a thought and a half from Saturday night...

MELTON THE MAN IN THE MIDDLE

One thing became apparent to me watching the Bears against the Redskins: If Henry Melton takes the next step in his progression, Lovie Smith will have the best defensive line of his tenure with the organization. In 2011 Melton had flashes of brilliance, leading all defensive tackles with 7 sacks, but lacked consistency on a play-to-play basis.

Early Saturday night, one witnessed how powerful this defensive unit can be when there is a significant push from the middle of the defensive line. The cover-2 was never as dynamic, never as powerful, never as exciting to watch as when Warren Sapp was knocking centers on their asses during Tampa's Super Bowl season. The fear of Sapp turned mediocre talents like Simeon Rice into all-pro defensive ends.

The Bears had that in spurts from from Tommie Harris in the middle of the last decade. But never during the Harris era did the Bears have a defensive end like Julius Peppers. And never during Julius Peppers' career has he played beside a tackle with Melton's potential. If it comes together in 2012 for the Bears, the NFC North will be put on alert.

Extra: CHRIS WILLIAMS TO LEFT GUARD?

It has never even been rumored and I don't understand why. Why isn't Chris Williams moving back to the left guard position he seemed to thrive at during the 2011 season? Does anyone NOT believe the best alignment for the Bears on the offensive line to start the 2012 campaign would be Webb-Williams-Garza-Louis-Carimi? What has led anyone to believe Chris Spencer, moving to his third different position in three years, is a better option at the left guard? This seems like a no brainer, doesn't it?

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  • In reply to DYLbear23:

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  • I would agree with your Williams to LG theory Jeff, and would certainly run with that IF Chilo Rachal performs poorly over the last two games. He played well against the Redskins and may be looking to redeem himself after being canned by SF. However, we should just cut Spencer right now. The guy makes roughly $4mil this season I believe and he's stinking up the joint something bad.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Saying that from day one - Spencer is costing us big bucks. Why are we paying him? It's not like he's our backup center or he can play guard well.

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  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    I hope you get a good run for your money!

    As for that lineup ... Jefe I'd plug in either CW or JW at LT but not have them both in together. Edwin Williams is the better guard IMHO. He doesn't get knocked on his ass as often as CW does, and that about splits them. Now James Brown, what's the Godfather of Tackle got for us maybe? He was making peope talk at practice, or not? I think I heard on Roy's show he'd impressed a lot of people.

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  • "The fear of Sapp turned mediocre talents like Simeon Rice into all-pro defensive ends."
    Jeff, Simeon Rice and mediocre talent should never be used in the same sentence together. I wasn't a fan of his, but he was a very productive player while he played and not in just a mediocre way. His Arizona stats were impressive as well.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    I agree - "mediocre talent" is nuts.
    Simeon Rice eclipsed the old Big 10 career sack record by 8.5 sacks.
    8.5.
    You don't do that on mediocre talent.
    And as JAB said, his numbers with the Cardinals didn't exactly suck either. 12.5 as a rookie....16.1(!) in his fourth year.
    Second fastest player in NFL history to 100.
    Sapp made the Tampa defense, but he didn't make Simeon Rice.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Jeff says lots of whacky shit that is factually questionable. That's why we like him. Esp. after a big Bears loss, you can expect some whack posts. We wouldn't want it any other way.

    Pre-season, in fact, does really matter. It's far from meaningless.

    Simeon Rice, was actually a stud.

  • And maybe Carimi is having problems at right tackle because ... I don't know ... cos he's a left fucking tacke maybe?

    LT - G Carimi
    LG - Edwin
    C -Garza
    RG Lance Louis
    RT CW?

    Protect the blindside, don't put your worst player there.

  • If you think someone who's somewhat struggling at RT is better off at LT...do you think the job gets easier where Webb is? Carimi has always been more highly rated as a run-blocking tackle than a pass-blocker (help me out here, Corm). So, why put him in a position that doesn't play to his strength and remove him from the one where his skillset should pay dividends?
    And honestly, the only times Jay got hit this week were on Spencer, Spaeth, and Adams.
    Webb did fine.
    Our TE's on the other hand, had a pretty shit time in pass blocking, and I have no idea why Chris Spencer is still on the roster - the guy's just burning up cap space.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    You are correct sir. I thought he was average at pass protection at Wisconsin but a great run blocker. Senior year I thought LG John Moffitt was the best lineman on the team over Carimi and C Konz. I'm by no means an expert on how that translates to the pros, but Moffitt was a mean SOB that punished LB's and DB's.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Apparently all the sacks can be accounted for by things other than the blocking of the front five, so it's not like Cutler will be running for cover. Having seen Tebow throw across his body on the run, I feel even more confident in Jay now.

  • Well, not all of them, but the front five play markedly better with Tice's game plan and actual receivers for Jay. The difference in the offense with him under center vs. Campbell (as much as he is an improvement over Hanie!) is very obvious.
    He is going to have a phenomenal year.
    I was thoroughly unimpressed with Spaeth's blocking last game. I think he'll be the odd TE out.

  • From Pompei's column in the TRIBUNE :

    "The pass protection might be improving. It's true the Bears gave up four sacks Saturday, but none of them should be pinned on offensive linemen.

    On the first, the pocket got a little tight on Jason Campbell so he stepped up into a sack. The second and third sacks get pinned on tight ends and backs. The fourth appeared to be quarterback Josh McCown's fault."

    ......and ....

    "Nick Roach has done all right filling in for Brian Urlacher, but he was outplayed by Blake Costanzo on Saturday. Whereas Roach took some bad angles from Urlacher's position, Costanzo played an impressive overall game. He read well, shot gaps aggressively, came off blocks, showed range and made solid tackles."

    So when Urlacher said he knew the defense, he meant that Roach knows the defense - he just can't fucking play it.

  • +1 on Costanzo. He was flying to the ball.

    His issue was he went down with cramps. He's not football fit, yet. His motor runs high, though.

    Roach will start. PS is easy, nobody shows you anything. We need a guy who can make the right adjustment pre-snap when the Pack line up 4 wide in a personnel package they've never showed before.

    Roach is that guy. Apparently.

  • By the way, on Roy's latest show he's drinking'Arrogant Bastard ale' brewed in honor of Josh McDaniels in tribute from Bears fans.

    Get drunk ... on arrogant bastard ...

  • I know you don't drink, but that is a fantastic beer. Love it. And the McDaniels shoutout.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Any McDaniels-related ale would have been a winner with me !
    'Tard.

  • There is a place here in Columbia that has $2.75 pints (ALL pints) on Thursdays. While the Arrogant is a 14oz pour, I've been drinking them on Thursdays for quite a while now. Hell, you can't get Arrogant that cheap at the beer store (it's around $15 / 6x12oz)

    Arrogant is very bitter, which suits me on occasion. My personal experience is that you better plan on drinking it all night once you start on it. :-)

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  • #BringBackSpice

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7neT7dUxY8&feature=plcp

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Bang Bang!

    (I've been using that in my normal life all the time now whenever something good happens. Everyone thinks I'm crazy)

  • Personally there were two 'new' guys last year who I thought were the anchor of the oline. Here are my thoughts:

    • Garza was ok at center and shouldn't be moved unless he dramatically drops off or gets injured, so that's a lock
    • Agree with Jeff on CW, he was the first nice surpise 'new guy'. Move him back… before cutty got hurt and the line gave up and started not giving a shit (mostly about fucking hanie), CW was SOLID and did a great job at LG I thought. Move him back now.
    • Lance Louis was the other – He was awesome at RT (until he got injured on the same play cutty did), as soon as the BJ’s knee blows out (and it will sadly) , put him back. until then keep him at RG
    • We have no one else to put at LT sadly, so we're stuck there
    • Backups… put edwin at whatever position needs him. Have we seen james brown play at all? Is he a keeper?
    • Irish has some interesting ideas and I would at the very least like to subscribe to his newsletter.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    A few key points.

    1) I do worry that our two most proven backup tackles (LL and CW) would be starting guards, thereby making it difficult to get someone fresh on the outside if we need it in a game. But the nice thing about CW playing left guard, where I've wanted him since before the whole left tackle competition started, is that it justifies keeping James Brown on the active roster as the "swing tackle." Even if CW is more likely to move to the outside than James Brown, we can still keep Brown active as our 3rd tackle and hope to see improvement thoughout the season.

    2) We have a ton of average guards, but nobody truly solid. Spencer's versatility makes him a great backup in the middle to complement Brown, but his upside is minimal. The other option to backup the middle is Chilo, who may have more upside but doesn't play center.

    3) The third backup should definitely be Edwin Williams. He was a solid guard last year and I would really like to see him come into his own as the 2nd team center as well. If EW is the backup in the middle, Spencer becomes expendable in favor of youth or more talent at pure guard.

    So to recap, I tend to agree with Jeff. Ideal line is: JW CW RG LL GC. Backups should be JB, EW and either Spencer or Rachal.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    James Brown is a backup RT. That is all.

    I've seen nothing to suggest he can grade out as a swing tackle.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Brown is an undrafted rookie, give the kid a year to prove himself. I'm not saying he's going to the hall of fame, but he already exceed expectations to get this far. Give him a year on the bench as see what happens.

    My point with Brown was that its hard to justify keeping four tackles on the active roster. With that said, there is a concern that we lose what could be a good developmental prospect. CW is the better swing this year, but if we start CW at guard, then that creates an extra roster spot.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB - I hate to correct you maing - but Lance Louis was never awesome at RT.

    To MBHP's point and Jeff's point on Cookie the crumbling tackle: dude was drafted to be a LT. Guys with the footwork to play LT are far and few between, it's the blind side tackle and defenses attack it relentlessly. You need a guy with great footwork.

    Is Cookie that guy? Well, sure as shit Reach-around Omlette sure wasn't. So, Tice is doing the smart thing. Seeing if the guy has grown into the job after getting some utility out of the pick at LG.

    My own watching of the Skins game showed me that Chico is the man (get it?) and should start ahead of Spencer.

    Spencer can just go. A waiver LG would be more use than that guy. Did you notice none of Forte's carries went to his side? Even late when we ran Bell, we always ran right. You don't think other teams are going to notice this?

    Spencer for Hire: Pure shit.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yes GP, I meant awesome respective to the total mediocrity of our entire line... not awesome in a jason peter's 2000's/manning colts oline way.

    Basically, he did really well there for the other options we have on this roster. Would you rather have him, or UDFA brown there when carimi's knee implodes again?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Gabe is a mench. He's given his bad luck talisman back to the Rabbai and Yahweh is going to shine on the guy this year.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    fucken a I hope so... first as a bears fan, second as a bears fan who thinks our entire oline has sucked for 5 years straight, and third as a fellow tribesman.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Not to be the overly sensitive PC guy, but nobody spells Rabbi that way and Jews do not use that spelling of G-d's name. The only people who use that spelling are xians trying to convince the Jews that "we're all pals."

    With so many funny jew-jokes out there ("Gabe Carimi is gonna show JPP what the Jews do to first years"), why settle for second rate?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    New Bear, I couldn't help but sense a bit of annoyance. Weird vibe. I could be wrong though.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Truth is I do get irritated with that particular way of writing G-d's name. I can could care less about the myraid of jokes saying Jews are cheap, can't play sports, have big noses, have gigantic side burns, whatever. But writing G-d's name that way is actually a disrespectful way to refer to G-d.

    But again, I can deal with jokes that disrespect G-d (George Carlin's routine about the all powerful deity that can't seem to handle money is hillarious). I think my real annoyance is with the groups of evangelicals that are no more Jewish than Ghandi, but that call themselves Jewish to try to lure the unaffiliated in with a false sense of familiarity.

    Those groups (and no offense on here to the sincere xian crowd, looking at you Trac) have basically warped secular America's perspective on what is Jewish. So that's where the irritation comes from.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Lemme make it up to you with a disrespectful cartoon of the prophet Muhammed.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I only noticed Chilo a bit, but he looked the part, didn't he?

  • Hardin was released from the hospital. Trib speculation is that he may start the year on IR.

    Conte will probably sit the Giants game, and hopefully see action in the Browns game.

    3rd PS game is nationally televised on CBS. I don't think this means the Bears will deviate from the accepted norms of giving all the starters a bye this game. Pep, Cutler, Forte, Marsh and maybe Peanut should sit it out. I wouldn't mind an entire 2nd half of seeing if McCown should make this roster or give the kid the spot. We have a veteran backup, we don't need two and to my eye, Josh has no more game left.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Agreed - with Campbell at the #2 spot, we should use the third QB on a developmental guy...it's a luxury we haven't had in a good long while.
    Let's take advantage of it.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Agree

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I watched some of the D3 playoff games the last few years, and Blanchard was always a clutch performer. I say keep him.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    All that begging we did for Marshall this offseason worked, so bye-bye McCown. The DBB mojo is sending you packing.

  • I trust Tice will make OL adjustments through week 7 of the regular season, unless he likes what he sees earlier. (I do think CW was our best interior lineman before he was injured last year...he pulled like no other).

    Melton will need a healthy Paea.

    Tyler Clutts needs a spot on the roster. Tice needs to overcome his aversion to prototypical fullbacks.

    PE does not have a hair on his ass if he can't get a 4th round pick for Chris Spencer when rosters get trimmed down. (See Dallas, Washington, Pittsburgh, San Diego, etc...).

    With all of the talent on this team, I think 11- 5 is underacheiving.

  • In reply to Viva:

    Viva, I will be in chitown the weekend of Dec 16th. I expect to have a nice steak dinner with you one night... or at least some free beers.

    I know you said you can't make it, but I expect you to change your plans, and make it. see how I did that?

  • In reply to Viva:

    Can't agree more, Viva.

    There's a lot of teams DECIMATED at the Oline (Check out this graveyard http://rotoworld.com/teams/injuries/nfl/all/), or with starting guards/centers worse than Spencer, believe it or not.

    We should be able to get a 5th or even 4rth for Spencer.

    I've been on the Clutts bandwagon since last year. Not getting off it anytime soon. That is why I was esp puzzled by the Rodriquez draft pick. Yeah, huge upside, but is he that much of an upgrade over Kyle Adams? We could have used that pick for an Olinemen or even another Safety. This isn't me being revisionist, that's what I wrote right after we drafted him.

  • Bang! Bang!

  • If you get a chance, watch the slo-mo on Bush's 2nd TD. The one where he jukes the guy out of his shoes in the hole.

    Clutts pulls the Skins weak-side out past the TE, so he can't crash the hole. Thus, once Bush makes the inside LB miss, he has daylight to the goal line.

    That happens when you have a credible pass catching threat at FB.

    Just saying...

  • btw, jeff might do a post on the dec 16th weekend and might do another DBB sponsored night out that weekend. we'll see if he does. He also wants to get in on our ticket purchasing party. I suggested to him that he hold the official party so as many of you guys that will be there can buy tickets... all in the same block.

    Not sure when he'll do a post on it. Just fyi...

  • I think MBHP should join the Pick 'Em league and go for the hat trick.

    League champion in the same year in ALL THREE leagues.

    I would totally go to Burger King and get a crown and write in sharpie "King of Football" and mail it to him for that.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And I fucking hate Burger King...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    You didn't have to add that GP. I ate there about 3-4 years ago when my buddy and I were going to Cycle Oregon. My stomach was extremely pissed off at me for 24 hours. YIKES!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    But they serve poutine in Canada!
    Can't say that for McDonalds...

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I've never been to a BK in Canada. Gotta give 'em credit for the fries, gravy and cheese curds! Boo-Yah!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I can see if wearing it to the Holiday Inn gets me an extra free bottle of water when I check in.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Oh it totally would.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Sold - I'm in.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    You and Waffle?

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    nice

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Brownie can't handle my intensity. I'm like a half italian half mexican rabbit in heat.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    On the back you need to sharpie "If you want to crown them..." next to a line drawing of a butt.

  • Did I say Carmini was a mench? He's got nothing on the Doomer, who has the temerity to write this sentence:

    I’m trying to be Stevie Sunshine here because I’m a pleaser, not a teaser, but sorry, there’s a dark cloud hanging back there.

    Cue (thanks Sac!) the music:


    He's Mister Green Christmas,
    He's Mister Sun.
    He's Mister Heat Blister,
    He's Mister Hundred And One.
    They call me Heat Miser,
    Whatever I touch
    Starts to melt in my clutch.
    He's too much!

    Oh Doomer. Life without you would be so much less stupid. And competent. And approximate actual journalism. But, in the Chicago tradition of Jay "Left Hook" Mariotti and Bob "Pretty little panties" Greene, we need a total ugly troll in this town, and you're going to give it us!

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosenblog/chi-bears-safeties-bring-bad-news-20120820,0,7542362.column

  • Merriman off the 'roid juice deflated faster than a kids mylar balloon. Faster than Tony Manwich himself.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/shawne-merriman-buffalo-bills-release-veteran-082012

  • In reply to gpldan:

    he's done.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Lights Out on that clown.

  • Some doofus on twitter just asked Biggsy whether Merriman was a possible fill-in for Lach.
    Proving that Twitter, just like Facebook, is a magnificent tool for putting idiocy on public display.

  • Yet another one of those guys that people pointed at to tell us Urlacher was overrated is toast after a short stint.

  • Agree, Blogfather. CW seemed to be thriving at left guard. Why is he not back there?

    Saturday's game replays tonight at 5 EDT on NFL Net.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I already stated this like 4 blogs ago at the height of "Webb-V-Williams". Williams IS going to start at LG, but for various reasons they manufactured this LT Competition.

    Reason 1) Wanted to try to light a fire under Webb's ass. It won't work because he's too immature and inconsistent. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he gives up 3 sacks in the next game. Webb has got to "fix" himself. He can begin by getting off of "WebbNation".

    Reason 2) Wanted to try to light a fire under William's ass. Won't work because William's is too soft. Even at LG where he faces inferior power and athleticism William's gets pushed back consistently when he's not pulling.

    Reason 3) Wanted to find out exactly what Spencer offers. Spencer played up-and-down last season. At first, he was in Tice's doghouse. Then, he played better. This off-season, he was one of the Camp Stars. Then, the games were played. Because we started him and not Williams at LG this preseason, we found out exactly what Spencer offers, and it ain't much.

    Reason 4) We're putting Spencer on "display" for other teams (see my above post). Or at least, we're putting him on the 99cent bin at Wal Mart for desperate red-necks with poor taste like the Cowboys to buy.

  • Sorry, not buying the point that guards face "inferior power" than tackles. The athleticism I'll cede, but not the power. Is there some reason to actually believe that NFL DEs are typically stronger than DTs?

  • Tice is just giving everyone a fair shake of the stick. He knows Webb sucks. Webb has always and will aways suck. He's living up to his 7th round draft pick status. If it looks ike a duck .....

    Tice knows it's CW's last hurrah. You're gone unless you show us something miraculous. He spent twice as long sitting on his ass on the field at the end of plays as did Edwin Williams (according to OBR who watches all the tape on HD).

    He knows he hasn't got great inemen - but he'll find his best five and go from there. Let scheming cover the rest.

  • It's Da Bears' turn in the barrel today on Deadspin...

    http://deadspin.com/5935713/why-your-team-sucks-2012-chicago-bears

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Some of the comments are really funny...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And some are PAINFULLY true!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    hilarious

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Did you read any of the others? The Browns and Bengals are a hoot as is his "conversation" between Todd Haley and Ben Roethlisberger in the Steeler rant.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    excellent Al, I will check those out too when I have time. nice posts sir.

  • I thought this was special and wanted to share:

    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Ravens-Williams-turns-down-extension-offer.html

    Quote of the year so far:

    "For me to say the money ain't good, that wasn't the case. It's good money, but my job is to make the most money I possibly can for my family. I'm thinking about my daughter and any future children I want to have. I want some kind of security, and the deal we had wasn't like that."

    Can a financial planner call this motherfucker and run some goddamn numbers over the phone right quick?

    When Cary is out of football at the age of 30 and is playing in the arena league for 50,000 a year or is working in a non football field making jack squat comparatively he will look back and say...."why didn't I take Waffle's advice and just take the 15million deal and place 30% of it in laddered annuities so I could get paid more than the president of the United States of America for the rest of my fucking life."

  • In reply to Waffle:

    I'm thinking about my daughter and any future children I want to have.

    That's like a cat call for baby mamas.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Well, that's just IGNORANT.

    He should just follow Darrell Revis' lead.
    ACCEPT the offer, then turn right around the next season and hold out for more!

    Who the hell is this guy's agent?

  • Also, I think we either have to keep Bell, or trade him. If we release him, I'm almost positive he becomes the starter for the Packers or the Lions.

  • With his penchant for putting the ball on the ground, I'm not so sure that's a bad thing.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    True, but fumblitis can be fixed (See Barber, AP).

    Benson is DONE.
    Best is DONE.

    The rest of their HBs are highly unproven, inj prone AND fumble-prone.

    Bell can wiggle and catch, which would fit their Os more.

    We should trade Bell to a HB-Thin team like the Chargers or Browns where he can spell their stars, or a team who's HB is glass like the Raiders with DMC.

    If Bell corrects his fumblities, he'd be a solid 2 in the right system.

  • Maybe the Jaguars would take him.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    that would be a big FU to MJD.

    For a 4rth or hopefully 3rd (the one we lost for Marshall), I think that would be a good trade for both teams.

    There's a lot of possibilities. The Steelers with Mendenhall out too is another option.

    Like you said below, I think after the 3rd preseason game, the wheeling and dealing will commence league wide.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Touche. Booker and Allen please. Clutts long-snapped Gould's 80 yard FG, so he's not going anywhere anyway.

  • Dude, Armando Allen was getting blown up picking up the blitz. He looked like a little kid at a Who concert.

    I like the idea of a quick little back, but he's useless. Cut him.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Not saying we should keep Allen, but how about Lorenzo Booker or 6 240 Unga?

    Like I said, keep Bell, but if some team offers a 3rd or 4rth rounder for him, done.

  • If you give him time, Unga Bunga will quit on his own.

    I agree that a 3rd or a 4th for Bell is good coin of the realm, and would do it based on Booker.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I said when we signed Booker that the bell tolls for Kahlil...and nothing this preseason has changed my mind on that. If I were a gambling man, I'd bet he's cut or shipped out after week 3.

  • DAILY OBNOXIOUS FANTASY FOOTBALL CALL TO ARMS!

    Blah blah blah... Join... blah blah blah.. it's fun.. blah blah.. MB loves it... yadda yadda.. email me. Rabble rabble... they took our jobs.. rabble rabble.

    (I'm gonna stop this spammin next week doe)

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    was that "tho)" or "doh!)" ?

  • For those with cable TV (I dunno if HBO streams)

    Tomorrow night is Ep. 1 of Hard Knocks Fish Edition.

    It focuses on Philbin's decision to start Tannenbaum over Matt Moore. Exciting stuff.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP - Serengeti 9/9 Lincoln Hall, Chicago.

    Let me live vicariously.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    I'll bootleg it.

  • Quiz time for Artoo:

    http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h161/venice_viking/clantest.jpg

  • Al you beat me to it. I saw the Deadspin article this morning at couldn't post it because I left my cell phone at home and work blocked bloggy bottom father's site. Fucking Monday.

    My personal favorites:

    "You wanna know why the Bears will suck this year? Lovie Smith challenges. If you need a coach to just blow a challenge and waste an important, and most likely 2nd half, timeout for you, I can't think of a better candidate. Devin Hester fumbled and it's recovered by Green Bay in a pile that's impossible to determine who picked up the ball first? THROW THAT RED FLAG!!!! 4th and goal on the 1-yard line and Matt Forte didn't break the plane on the 4th straight run up the middle? CHALLENGE THAT SPOT!!!!! Calvin Johnson makes a catch along the sidelines where both feet are clearly inbounds? YOU BETTER BELIEVE THAT'S A CHALLENGIN'!!!!"

    And:

    "By far, the most frustrating part of being a Bears fan during the Lovie Smith era has been Lovie's stubborness/inability to check out of a Tampa 2 coverage when necessary. If you're good enough to even get a look at an NFL practice squad, and you have an offensive coordinator that has watched 10 minutes of Bears defensive game film from the past 8 years, then your team has a 100% chance of driving the ball 90 yards up the Bears ass on every GD offensive possession. Sometimes your team will shit the bed and give us an unearned turnover, or sometimes your own shitty team will miss a wide open receiver in the endzone, but your team will almost always be guaranteed a field goal on every GD offensive possesion. All of this because Lovie Smith has never, ever, not once, in 8 fucking years of coaching the Bears sought it necessary to play anything but a zone defense, where the middle 20 yards of the field are wide fucking open for every Joe Webb, Tyler Palko, and, gulp, Tim fucking Tebow, to pad his QB rating.

    Oh, and our starting linebackers have fathered 1/4 of Chicago's toddlers."

    And this one:

    "It is physically impossible to have a good statistical season at WR in Chicago. Would you care to guess who the top WR in Bears history is from a fantasy standpoint? RICKY FUCKING PROEHL, who only played 15 games for the team. Marshall's pet goldfish will die in Week 4, his PTSD will flare up, and he'll get put on the restricted list after punching Staley on the sidelines."

    But they're all hilarious so you should read them all.

    And remember, "Blessed is the man who can laugh at his favorite team, for he will never cease to be amused."

  • In reply to Shady:

    http://deadspin.com/5935713/why-your-team-sucks-2012-chicago-bears

  • In reply to Shady:

    this one had me LOLing:

    "For some reason, people think Brandon Marshall will thrive in the "professional atmosphere" in Chicago, which is a joke. Under Lovie's watch, Tank Johnson amassed an arsenal that many small countries would envy and Sam Hurd attempted to become Tony Montana. When Marshall is inevitably killed by his wife or suspended for stabbing a Chicago cab driver for saying "State Street" the wrong way, the Bears will be left with Hester (can't catch), Dane Sanzenbacher ("gritty" slow white guy who can't catch), Johnny Knox (BackAIDS), and Alshon Jeffery (fat rookie). Hooray!"

  • In reply to Shady:

    Did you check out any of the others? The Browns and Bengals are a hoot as is his "conversation" between Todd Haley and Ben Roethlisberger in the Steeler rant.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    "I can't think of a better 1-2 asshole punch than Todd Haley working with Ben Roethlisberger. CBS should have an iso camera trained on Haley at all times that streams online, just so I can watch him mouth out curse words at my leisure. I can already see the sideline conversation between these two after every series:

    HALEY: You see this? (twirls ball on index finger) This is a ball and I'm so fucking badass I can spin it on my finger for five seconds plus. YOUR ONE JOB IS TO GET RID OF THE FUCKING THING.

    BIG BEN: HARF HARF BIG BEN JUST WANTS A PUSSY TO GRAB.

    HALEY: You've got a fucking attitude, young man. WHY DON'T YOU POLISH MY CAMARO AND THINK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO BE PART OF THIS TEAM?"

    hahaha

  • In reply to Shady:

    this one's brilliant: "#3- Lovie Smith. He fired Ron Rivera because too many people liked him and he wanted to blitz more, hired his buddy to run exactly what Lovie told him too, then it failed and Lovie fired him, replaced him with himself, the defense sucked again, Lovie fired himself from D coordinator and hired a new D coordinator to run what he wanted"

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Funny because it's true.

  • In reply to Shady:

    ...and painful. Sorry maings... had to go find my phone before I got locked out.

  • In reply to Shady:

    "All of this because Lovie Smith has never, ever, not once, in 8 fucking years of coaching the Bears sought it necessary to play anything but a zone defense ...."

    WTF? Does this guy watch football?

  • Oh, Irish. Hyperbole my angry Thairish friend.

  • Mark Lagree signed from Seahawks to play safety

    Woot woot to miss preseason with groin pull. Goodbye woot woot

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Seahawk reject.

    Oh yeah, that gives me a REAL sense of security.

    Is his nickname "Simon"?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I think we can all "Lagree" with what you just said.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    that dude is garbage. jesus.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Any other options out there? Not challenging your opinion, just wondering....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    than wooton? sure, I'm sure there'll be plenty maings.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No, LaGree....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I know, I was mussin.

  • DeSean Jax just admitted he dogged it last year lol

    It's funny watching Da Coach and Keyshawn debate that. Da Coach looks like he wants to reach over and force-choke that ass-wad.

    Keyshawn: the megaphone for all contemporary douche athletes.

  • The best part by far of the deadspin thing?

    "Do you realize that ESPN still employs Mike Ditka? To talk? Have they actually heard this man speak? It's like having a cinder block occupy one of the chairs on your set. DURRRRR I LIKE THE TOUGHNESS OF THESE BEARS DURRR I DENY EVERYTHING UNFLATTERING SAID ABOUT SWEETNESS DURRRR. No one—not even the average Bears fan—has suckled off the tit of 1985 quite like this man. Every time I hear Ditka speak, I become convinced that the 1985 Bears were really coached by Buddy Ryan and a rotating group of drunken team captains. Ditka is a fucking buttsteak, and it galls me to think that he serves as a kind of unofficial ambassador for the city of Chicago. It's one of the greatest cities in the world, and here's Andy Reid's drunk uncle representing it. "

    Would have had a hard time saying it better myself.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    In fairness, we'd have zero Lombardis without Ditka - it takes a special kind of legend to capture mercury in a bottle, and Ditka is a legend in any quantifiable way you could discuss. I guarantee Ditka woudn't have eased around for ten years winning one conference in that time. He walked into that locker room on day one and said those famous lines. Lovie just hasn't got the balls for that.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    No doubt Ditka started believing his press clippings and was sent packing due to coasting on the job. However, when he came on board he really did change the mindset of the team. He horribly underestimated the value of a good QB. With a good backup QB we could have won more SB's. Or if McMahon could have stayed healthy. Neither came to pass and neither did the Bears. Oh well.

  • Oh and DeSean is a pussy. Just like the Dogkilla

  • Tice got off a pretty good line in the latest Trib article:

    Tice called the Giants the best test possible for his line, saying “I would think you would rather see this than the Little Sisters of the Poor. You want to go out there and play against the best because it calluses you. It makes you tough not only physically but mentally.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    What the fuck? Who? Cutler?

  • "Every Steelers fan smells like a beer someone farted in."
    Gawd aint that the truth!

  • DogKilla to get a CTI today after getting popped by a very nasty Pats D.

  • BlitzKreig arrested

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/06/beezow-doo-doo-zopittybop_n_1190410.html

  • http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/21/autopsy-no-apparent-damage-to-seaus-brain/?hpt=hp_t3

    No brain damage. Dude was just depressed. Couldn't handle not being the man. Plain and simple.

    Another thing that I am shocked about. How a guy like seau who played with reckless abandon for what 16 years... doesn't have CTE, but other dudes in college are getting it. Genetic predisposition must be a big part of it. So interesting.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I am not going to say it's 100% but I think I called this one.

    None of us can imagine what it's like to be the fucking man in the most glory filled sport in the world for a top performer. You're considered a warrior, a god in some circles and you've only known success, glory and accolades since you were 8.

    Now you are forced to retire from the only thing you truly know in this world that you have reached the pinnacle of success at. The high that comes with victory in athletics is unlike anything and then to have that high amplified by the fact that it's in the most brutal, grinding sport out there.

    Sometimes these top tier athletes who had a singular focus for the majority of their lives are left with just memories of glory days as they wake up to normal, mundane lives. Most don't do anything of note close to what they did before and when the realization that their ability to pull in a 300,000 game check is replaced by making that in 2 or 3 years, and the 10 million dollar signing bonus is replaced by a 100.00 autograph at a trade show they can't handle it.

    I would imagine that most ultra talented or successful people whether it be in academia or sports or business go through intense periods of emotion when they realize their time is up and that a new, younger crop is there to replace them.

    RIP Junior. You were a true warrior and will go down in history as one of the iron men of the sport.

  • btw Mike Vick will NEVER make it through a season... or even half one.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Vick is such a pussy compared to Cutler. I can't believe he doesn't get more shit for it. People ripped Cutler but the guy takes punishment that would result in Vick dying on the field.

    I'm so fucking glad we have a qb that can handle the punishment, the truly idiotic fans among us and can also throw mega fucking laser beems.

    He took us to the NFC Championship game with no WR's and no Oline and a crazy OC with a 20 year old offense.

  • dude's a punk: http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/watch-andy-reid-and-cullen-jenkins-get-all-up-in-each-others-grills/

    (I'll let you decide which one you feel I'm talking about)

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