The Camp Battle That Wasn't: Webb Will Start at LT

It was to be the dramatic showdown of training camp.

In one corner was to stand J'Marcus Webb. 6'8". 335 pounds. Drafted in the seventh round by the Bears,Webb has played a full season at both tackle positions. While he's clearly been improving a technique to go along with his freakish physical stature, Webb was the single most maligned Chicago Bear of the 2011 season not called Caleb Hanie.

In the other corner would be Christopher Joseph "Chris" Williams. 6'6". 315 pounds. Drafted fourteenth overall by Jerry Angelo to be the franchise left tackle for the Bears organization. Injury here. Injury there. Demoted inside to left guard in 2011, Williams looked like he was finally finding a home in the NFL. Injury again.

They were, these two very large men, destined to battle camp practice after camp practice for the starting left tackle position. They would battle for the right - nay the privilege - to protect the blindside of the first franchise quarterback in Chicago Bears history. It was my firm belief that this battle would reach its pinnacle under the primetime lights of the that giant air conditioner in the swamp - the Meadowlands - as Webb and Williams would come under the onslaught of the world championship trio of Tuck, Umenyiora and JPP. It would be glorious.

And then it ended. Just like that. It took half a week for Chris Williams to start working with the #2s behind right tackle Gabe Carimi, not Webb. It took half a week for Lovie Smith and almost all of the establishment media to acknowledge that it will be J'Marcus Webb lining up at left tackle for the Bears when they meet the Indianapolis Colts in a month or so. It took half a week for Lovie, Mike Tice & company to illustrate what a sham the whole battle was to begin with.

Is this final? Probably not. Like I said earlier in the week, if Robert Mathis torches Webb for three sacks on opening day I'd be shocked if pressure does force the offensive coaching staff to make a change at the position. Is it surprising? Yes and no.

What's surprising about the move is that it is the left tackle position. Why not truly challenge Webb? Even if you do not plan on giving anyone else the gig, why not at least give the appearance of a challenge for the duration of training camp? Webb is charged with protecting the franchise. Is this coaching staff willing to risk their tenure without so much as competition?anchise?

What's not surprising? A fake camp battle. Lovie does as Lovie pleases and this decision was clearly made before Bourbonnais, before OTAs. Hell this was a decision made prior to the draft. As Bears fans we must hope. Hope that a decision made in March leads to success in February.

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  • FIRST to ask, what the hell do they do with Williams now? Why can't he play guard again, and be the 2nd tackle? Didn't he have a great year at guard, or did I make that up?

  • In reply to Perno:

    Also, that video is so stupid, but so hilarious at the same time. Do you think he was going for hilarious?

  • In reply to Perno:

    I think someone in his crew got a new camera and wanted to try out all of the fancy things it could do.

    I'm constantly amazed by the shit that some people will post on the internet.

  • In reply to Perno:

    Perno you son of a bitch. You came in like a thief in the night.

  • In reply to Waffle:


  • In reply to Perno:

    can't say whether or not he had a "great" year, but one area he really shined was pulling out wide to help lead the way on sweeps. not sure what the exact stat is, but i'm pretty sure forte's highest average YPR was around the right side. and a big reason for that was the pulling prowess of one christopher williams.

  • In reply to Perno:

    When Webb was kept on as LT, CW was put in with the 3s at right tackle when Carimi was rested/benched after Izzy blazed him. CW appears to be the swing tackle. Spencer has had a good camp and Lance obviously expects to start at RG, so CW is on the bench.

    Joniak and Thayer's thoughts on camp so far.

  • First you little beeyatches.

    I was sincerely hoping Williams was going to come to camp and play like a 1st round franchise LT but then i woke up from my rum and coke induced blackout.

    I think the scheme will help all of the linemen but you can only spray so much fabreeze on the couch your buddy shat on during that Halloween party before it all blows up in your face.

  • Last year we picked up a guy at DE/DT that I was pretty high on in Chauncey Davis from the Falcons. I thought he did well and assumed they would bring him back since Wootton can't shake the injury bug and McClellin will need to develop a bit.

    It looks like he is quietly doing well. This guy is a bit older but can actually make plays.

  • I had a dream last night that the Bears invented a formation called the "Fuck You We're About To Stuff This Ball Down Your Throat" formation.

    It consisted of Melton at Fullback, Bush at Tailback, double tightends of Spaeth and Clutts, and Marshall at WR way out wide on an island.

    The playcalls I cycled through were impressive. My mind is on football and the first game is in 2 days. Can't wait boys, love the Olympics but not sad to see baseball end and football begin.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    I would like to try this formation in Madden.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    That's my kind of football Waffle.

  • Well, if you bastards have already left for Martini Lunch Fridays then i'm fucking going to. See you on the other side. If you don't hear from me know that I went out with a smile on my face, a glass of irish whiskey in my paws and a dangerous yet slightly naive eastern european stripper scrounging through my pants for my wallet.

  • Ok who the hell broke the blog?
    And who the hell mantioned happy hour? Now i have to sit here for another 5 hours salivating at the thought of an icy cold sierra nevada with a 2 inch cap of rich, dark guiness floating delicately atop that golden nectar known as the pinacle of beer making excellence.

  • Holy Crap, Sac. I don't even drink and I want one of those!

  • i just cancelled a meeting to go get one immediately. Happy Friday.

  • One wouldn't be enough - I'll take two, please.

  • Jeff I agree with a lot of your post but trying to lay this fake competition at Lovie's doorstep is hooey. This is Tice's Baby. He likes to settle things quickly when it comes to OL. Yes Lovie played along with the charade but that's about it when it comes to his involvement.

  • If Webb doesnt pan out this year I hope James brown can step it up. As IrishSweetness stated in the previous thread "James Brown may be the Godfather of Tackle." I'm hoping he is and hope he makes Tice and Co. an offer they can't refuse.......

  • We all know this isn't going to work out. There is no way this guy improves enough. He sucked so bad even with improvement he will just kinda suck. Like maybe limit Jared Allen to 2 or 3 sacks a game? Lovie certainly has a history of sticking with shit he shouldn't be sticking with. I'm really shocked by this move. Ill bet he wont be there at the end of the year, there is no way they can put up with that kind of performance again, can they?

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Don't know Murph. I totally understand your POV. I've usually got the rose colored glasses on so I think it can work but remain skeptical. No doubt Lovie sticks with the status quo too long but this is Tice's Baby. Not sure how patient Tice will be. Lovie took way too long to kick Martz in the ass the last two years so I'm guessing at some point he'll crack if Tice doesn't do the right thing. It will be interesting for sure.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    you and I have had this convo canada.

    First, the dude has been THE WORST LT in football two years running. Even if he makes a quantum leap this year, he'll still be dogshit compared to the good guys.

    Second, there's no one decent to back him up! Fuck me.

    Where is James Brown playing, RT? Fuck me.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Patience my man, Patience. Tice is all about putting players in positions to succeed. Let's see how this plays out. Certainly looks like Williams is the swing guy at this point. Trying to find some positives, CW beats the shit out of Omlette in that role. + having Carimi in there should help stabalize the line. I'm not saying our OL will be great but I truly believe it will be at least middle of the pack.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    hahahaha... shooting for the stars, eh?

    Ask Shady or MBP, I'm like a family doctor's office on sunday... no patients.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If Brown's impressing so much in camp, it's not hard to see new-Lovie end up starting him at one end or the other.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    please don't get me started murph. you guys know how I feel about our oline and the fucking NOTHING that's been done over the last 5 years.


    btw, totally tangentially... lindt dark mint chocolate is fucking mana from heaven. Go pick some up, it's insane.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Just put an offer in on the house I was telling you about yesterday. Holy crap, dude.
    You guys keep playing pub games for awhile last night?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I think we should put a wager down on Webb's sack totals up until the Packers game on the 16th.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    awesome. Fingers crossed you get it my man. Let us know.

    A couple more. Playing without the smacktalk just isn't the same. 505 get your headset maings!

    No, please god no. I don't even want to think about it... cause then you also have to wager on how many penalties the dude is going to cost us on top of the sacks.

    fuck me!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You should take the bet then...we pick a penalty number and I'll take the under.
    Loser wears a Packers hat to Cortland's Garage.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    F-ck that, I'm not paying money for anything Packers related and if I borrow it, I'd be too tempted to burn it.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    my immediate thought exactly.

    "Fuck that!"

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Could you imagine the amount of shit you'd take wearing that at the draft party? Good Times!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I can imagine the amount of shit that 30 would take - cause he'd lose.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Where ya moving to ? Another state? Different city?

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Different city - about 10 miles up the road. Five minutes from Yorktown (beach, battlefields, etc)...I'm a nervous wreck, Murph!

  • Hey Johnny, see this?

    Check the fucking card... and it's F-R-DOUBLE-E!


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    decent card, i'll be watching that. thanks for the heads up.

  • I pretty saw this coming since the end of the season. Chris Williams played LG because he was a liability in pass protection. He had a good year at Guard because he was strong in the running game, but he was part of the line that gave up all those sacks.

    Chris was not the solution at left tackle and all this camp experiment has done is confirm that CW will not be back in 2013. He'll spend this season on the bench or at LG and will be cut barring injury to JWebb or Carimi and an amazing performance by CW.

    What is lost in this discussion is that we aren't exactly golden at guard or center either. Garza is the veteran center, and Edwin Williams and Spencer are the backups. We've got Rachal, Lance Louis and some camp bodies together with those same three at center all competing for the two guard spots. Chris Williams was the starting LG last year, he might as well also be in the mix. And James Brown probably would like the chance to get into the rotation somewhere. That's 9 guys looking at 3 spots.

    One other interesting posibility. If a good player were to be cut by another team right now, and we needed some cap space to bring that person in, Chris is set to make over $1M this year (last year of his rookie deal). It is concievable that the Bears could cut him for space. That could be good for a lot of people. CW gets a spot at guard on another team (maybe San Diego?), the Bears get to make another cap move, James Brown possibly gets onto the active roster, and Emery sends a message to the O-line that nobody is safe.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Unfortunately NB, due to the last 5 years of (in)action by our brilliant management, the only one that's truly not safe is....

    Jay Christopher Cutler.

    Btw, now that I have a bit more time on my hands, I’ve started taking Krav Maga at the local JCC. Nice to be amoungst my peoples again.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Among your people - Israeli Commandos? I think you've been playing Modern Warfare a little too much bwhahah

    On Krav Maga, true story. My sister's ex-boyfriend took it years ago b4 the whole UFC craze and told me about it. "Full contact. Lot's of elbows, knees, close quarter combat." I was like, 'Damn.'

    Well, one day he put it to work. He and his buddies went down to party in Mexico (b4 the cartel warzones). So this one drunk American was going around shouting wet back this, beaner one really did anything cuz they realized he was just wasted. However, he drunkenly bumped into my sis' ex, then got in his face and started talking shit. Keep in mind, my sis' ex is about 6'2 200, so dude must have really been wasted. Well, the guy threw a punch, he dodged it, gave him one of those swift elbow death blows to the face and knocked the dude out cold.

    The bouncers came, realized what happened, and just picked up said drunk and chucked him out the bar.

    Mexican justice, Krav Maga style.

  • El Krav Maga

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Man, can't we trade two Gs to get one solid LT? That's what I do in Madden.

    Our cup poureth over at G. If CW indeed loses out and becomes the swing OT, and we're gonna let him walk next year, I say we trade his ass now.

    I can think of two teams off the top of my head that need an OT.

    The Eagles who lost their all-pro LT may need one. I know they signed Bell, but he's not all that.

    We know the Jets were in the hunt for an OT because they traded for Otah, but Otah failed two physicals, so that didn't work out. They might be interested in a former 1st round pick.

    The Steelers and Giants were decimated at the Oline last year, so maybe they'd be in the market for a young OT/G.

    Realistically, we would get something like a 6th for him, if that. But maybe injuries like the Eagles experienced makes a team desperate and we can get like a 5th for CW. The fact that he was a Top 15 pick might entice some teams.

    But the danger of course is if Webb goes down, so I would only seek to trade CW if I can get like a 5th AND if I can trust James Brown to man the LT position in a pinch. Like I said before, McNeill is still out there who I know can play when healthy, so that would be my emergency plan.

    Pretty sad when a 7th rounder, a UFA and a player with neck and knee problems is better than a former 14th overall pick...thanks Angelo...

  • Shop him as Columbo II, and maybe we could get a 4th rounder for him.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Man, can't envision that. I think the only way that happens is if a play-off team's OT goes down in like week 8 or something. But stranger things have happened.

    The Texans might be another team who can use a young OT since they lost Eric Winston to FA, but they are a zone blocking team, so not sure if CW would peak their interest.

    In a small Angelo defense, the 2008 OT class has proven to be less than stellar.

    #1 overall pick Jake Long is awesome, but then

    #12 Ryan Clady (Who I wanted to trade up for at the time) has been good, but a bit injury prone.

    #14 Chris Williams...well, we all know how this song ends.

    #15 Brandon Albert...a converted G who is not exactly a PB

    #17 Gosder Cherilus a serviceable OT but the Lions didn't draft Reiff for nothing.

    #19 Jeff Otah injury plagued who is now an FA.

    #21 Sam Baker Him and Gallery are the reason no one drafts "short armed" OTs anymore.

    #26 Duane Brown He was a back-up of Winston for the Texans until this year

    All in all, it was a pretty crumby OT batch which only reinforces the old maxim "best player available", but that year's OTs seem esp busty.

  • Looking over that entire 2008 1st round is actually somewhat painful. It was littered with busts. Here are the sure-fire busts.

    #5 Vernon Gholson
    #8 Derrick Harvey
    #9 Keith Rivers
    #11 Leodic McKelvin

    And that's not including the OTs or a few other players who are no where close to being PBs.

    In fact, one can make the argument that the more productive players from that draft came in the 2nd with Forte, Rice, D-Jackson, and the 3rd Jaamal Charles. Goes to show that those 2nd-3rd rounders are important, and how much both Paea and Alshon could mean to the Bears down the line...

  • I was mostly kidding, 4ever.

  • jesus, can this day end already?! my god...

  • Holy shit - are we really less than a week from the first preseason game?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    You bet! Time to retire Peyton before the real season even starts!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Two days until the HOF game??? Where did the summer go?
    Hell yes, it's preseason time - where I try to stay awake for four quarters!

  • hey $, your flurry of posts on the previous thread made me laugh.

    btw, 505 joined MBP and I last night for a few games... why don't you join maings?

    Be sure to show up with a fucking headset though, lest you be banished until procurement of said device... like 505.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah, I pulled an Irish, the Thai Overlord of responding on dead threads. I think he's still posting on the Peppers FA thread...

    I don't own one of those headsets though, but that'd be fun. Gotta warn though, I'm the biggest shit talker in the world, like this guy...

  • This looks... painful:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    For once, someone wasn't diving. That had to be a knockout.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ooooooooh - that'll leave a mark.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That's one fucking tough Kiwi, given that she got up and finished the game.

    And Wambach kicked her in the head earlier in the game. No shit, that gal is tough as nails. Worst of all, most of you call soccer a pussy sport.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Not me, man...not after taking a kick to the sack in 5th grade. Cleats + no protective gear except "shin guards" = keep your head on a swivel.

  • Also, since I have the platform to myself, did anyone else notice the little Buddha in the background to the vid? I sure hope that wasn't Webbs. I don't want my Olinemen all passive and peaceful. I want him all angry and militant like a Shinto Samurai...

  • stoned
    commercial break

  • Well, a couple of drafts in a row, I posted (too often) our draft choices should be
    OL OL OL WR OL whatever

    When you look back, 4ever, the best OL the Bears have today could not hold a candle to the worst starter in 1985. Just think Bortz, Thayer, Hilgenberg, Covert and Van Horne right now.

  • Back during the early off season, before the trade for Marshall, Cutler and Marshall and Ryan Clady were talking about "getting the band back together". If Im not mistaken, Clady and Denver are having issues working out a new contract. Anyone for sending CW over to Denver for Clady?

  • In reply to BAM46Blitz:

    That's a nice dream, but I seriously doubt the Broncos are gonna let a bust in Williams to protect broken-neck statue Manning.

    If we could have only moved up 3 spots (sound familiar?) in the 2008 draft like I wanted (see above), we wouldn't have to worry about having the worst LT starting...

    In fact, I recently read that the Broncos were expecting big things from Clady this year, so I really can't see this happening.

  • Plus, I don't even know if we'd be able to afford him...

    "John Elway told The Denver Post that while negotiations hit at impasse, the Broncos were "looking forward to Ryan playing a key role on our team this year and hope he will be a Bronco for many seasons to come."

    Clady will make $3.5 million this season in the final season of a five-year deal he signed as a rookie out of Boise State in 2008. The Broncos had reportedly offered the fifth-year pro $50 million over five years with $28 million guaranteed.

    In free agency next year, Clady and his agent, Pat Dye, can seek a deal more in line with Cleveland's Joe Thomas, whose deal averages $11.5 million a season. The Broncos could also put the franchise tag on Clady, which would pay him in the neighborhood of $10 million in 2013."

  • Well we can all dream can't we. Lets hope Cutty n Beast send Clady subliminal messages.Its a highly unlikely long shot, but Clady was really jiber jabbin about the reunion, so he did seem down for a move to Chitown. Oh well, thats what fantasy football is for.

  • I think Jew Bear gives us depth getting him back. No more 800 step Tecmo Bowl drops...We will be alright. Look what C-Dogg aka Cutler did in Denver during his pro bowl year. Mostly 3 and 5 step quick passes. 1 v 1 Marshall against any corner is no contest. Easy 8 yards and a reception. Then hit the slant and go and what does that equal? TD!!!! Bates is on board for a reason...Watch Bennett..Kid will grab 10 TDs this year..Put it on the board!!

  • Marshall vs corners is like me vs MB and rabbit on MW3!! haha..kidding..I got lucky that night...Unlike my prom night...haha

  • Legit note..Going to Chi for the Bears/Rams...Anyone got any insides on tickets and I'm not talking prison wallets..haha. I may need to buy 3, and only need 2, so anyone interested in the single? I'll cut a decent price. Maybe even buy a beer..Hit me up!! If not, what about Sunday night football after the game near Soldier or downtown?

  • Brother just bought the tickets for Bears-Titans. Section AA Row 309. Anyone in the Nashville area going to this game? Bears tailgate is gonna be huge down there. Lots of Bears fans in Tennessee. I'd argue there are as many Bears fans(Chicago transplants who moved during the construction boom) than there are outright Titans fans. At least its a push. Seriously, head to Nashville once to party and you will see the Blue/orange everywhere.

  • In reply to BAM46Blitz:

    Bam 46 Blitz - You will be welcomed to the wonderful city of BIG SHOULDERS with open arms! It is wonderful to hear that the mighty Chicago Bears have many fans in small town America!.

    Go Bears!!!!!!!!!

  • In reply to BlitzKrieg:

    I sense a bit of sarcasm there. I'm actually from the South Side, Pilsen, 18th n Oakley. Yes my city would welcome me with open arms.

  • In reply to BAM46Blitz:

    See Bam? You a Bam, He a blitz!

  • In reply to BAM46Blitz:

    South Side! My Man!!

  • So hey, nobody has mentioned the Broncos - we get to be the first defense to peel their ears back and have a shot at Peyton's vertebrae.

    Woot! Woot!

  • If WootWoot does it, he'd be a Bagger Vance. Disappears for long stretches, shows up just in time to put down an all time great.
    But the odds of him seeing the field while Manning is out there are probably slim to none.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Like the Fisher King.

    I'd much rather Woot-Woot get karmic revenge on Rodgers for that Jimmy Mac cheap shot by GB. Woot-Woot then doesn't even wait to get ejected from the game, but just gets up and heads straight to the tunnels with his hand waving a towel in the air with Rodger's #. He summarily gets banned from the league, but never has to buy a beer anything ever again in Chi-town.

    All in all, win win bwhaha

  • I, 100%, support this plan of action!


    It's the only thing that dude has been good for in three years. Thanks again Jerry.

  • I hope the kid does well and turns it around:

  • In reply to Waffle:

    bottom line, the dude is a football player.

    He's not bear material, but if he can stay out of jail for a couple years and play some football in the NFL he should consider himself lucky... and his NFL career a success.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I can't believe we didn't let a 7th rounder fly on him. They could use him as a security guard or something.... but it's not like we're heavily-laden with x-factor LBs.

  • You guy's have been busy on here.

    First off, Williams will not get us a 4th rounder.. The best we could hope for is 2015's 7th rounder. Seriously. How do you trade him.. Yeah, we drafted him in the first round to be our LT for years to come but he can't pass block very well.. Umm, he was decent at guard but we have better players to play the guard position now so we don't need..but umm he has been very injury prone but he did start for us at one time...

    Yeah. Williams might find a spot at RT if Carimi is sucking it up or has really regressed over the past few months.

    Did you guy's here that Brandon Marshall said we are going to the Superbowl? Damn.. He better be right.

    The Ryan Clady reunion talk is a little.. crazy to say the least. One, he would have to play here for cheap. Two, the Bears would have to cut or restructure a lot of contracts. Three, it actually sounds like something Emery might be able to pull off but I doubt it.

    Ryan is going to play for whomever pays him the most money. I still can't believe he turned down what he was offered or supposedly offered.

  • You never know Artoo. Clady could have turned down the Bronco offer because he wants to reunite with Cutler and Marshall. I'm not on twitter, but supposedly, Clady made some comments about that, and the last time that happened, we got Beast.

    Broncos have all the hand though as they can easily franchise Clady next year though.

    And like I said earlier, he'd cost at least 9M/year, so it's a far off dream.

    What I want to know is, how dee fudge does McDaniels blow-up a team with a franchise QB-WR-LT and a solid defensive core? Wow.

  • CW gets to walk. That's the price you pay when you draft a guy in the first round and he wasn't what you hoped for. His second contract needs to be big or he walks.

  • wow... just... wow:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    In case you haven't figured it out yet, sports is replacing religion.

  • In reply to Shady:

    When Packer and Bears fan start slaughtering each other in the name of each team, then sports will officially replace religion.

  • Nice one.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    At one of my best friend's closed casket funeral, the coffin was draped in a Packers flag, hat, and jersey, along with some rare Pink Floyd recordings.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Rare Pink Floyd recordings? What's your friend's name, and where's he buried at again?

  • I thought the same thing when I first read that lol

  • He had at least 10 hours of studio recordings that were never released on an album. Most songs were early versions or alternate versions. Not sure where he got them, since he died in 94 before the internet. I stay in touch with his parents, who I've known since a little kid, but never had the nerve to ask if I could borrow his Floyd collection to record.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Get the nerve... post on a pirating site... change the world...

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    Alternate studio tapes? Get the shovel...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I think it is easy to transfer reel to digital... With the proper equipment.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    The Floyd has recently released a good portion of the stuff my buddy had on new collector's edition box sets.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    You know, an "ex" recently contacted me through FB. And I know the rule "never re-date an ex", but she says she just recently bought their entire catologue and will make me a copy.

    Oh women, how thou tempteth me...

    But even if your pal has one alternate unheard version or song, Fith, Da Blog is fetching the shovel and going a-treasure hunting...just mark "X" on a map for us Fifth...

  • I don't think he had stuff that no one else had, just very rare stuff that very few people have got their hands on. He was obsessed with Floyd.

    Butch, it sounds like you have a pretty cool ex if she does that for you. I'd take her up on that offer. My sister, a loving wife, got my brother-in-law the entire catalog for x-mas a few years ago. I was missing Atom Heart Mother, Ummagumma, and More on CD, but now I got that covered.

    I was gonna post a link to a Floyd show from 1970, but you tube took it down. Copyright laws. It was about an hour long. Catch as catch can.

  • 26 hours.

  • Artoo, where you @ family fest?

  • Bears receiver Brandon Marshall, who hasn't masked his excitement about joining the Bears, fired up those in attendance at Family Fest Friday night.

    After answering a couple of questions after practice over Soldier Field's public address system, Marshall playfully told the crowd, "This is just between us, so keep it here."

    Then, he said, "Super Bowl," before stepping away from the mic.

    The crowd, which was tallied at 27,352, exploded with cheers.

  • Our Devin Thomas retired...

    No, I was not at Family Fest.

  • I guess Dane's odds just went up a little.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    IF he can learn to open field tackle and recover fumbles, then he should get in

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    You're very likely right, Ender.

    But it seems Dane is not all gung-ho on playing specials (from some Sun-Times article), but it's hard for me to believe Summers would be better on specials.

    Given what we've seen with the Bears in the Smith-Toub era, playing specials well is a good way to stay on the team.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I still got money on 6'5 220 Chris Summers, but Sanz has been scratching and clawing in camp, so that ought to be good.

    I just can't get all the drops from last year by Sanz out of my can teach route running, technique, timing...can't teach speed, size or hands...

  • DT is gone? Really? Welcome to Chicago Chris Summers.

  • I would bet on Sanzenbacher before Summers.

  • Pretty good weekend for the New Orleans Saints. And boy, did they need it. nfl jerseys

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