Friday Night Not Just About Bears Offensive Line

Friday Night Not Just About Bears Offensive Line

We all understand the major threat posed by the New York Giants. With Justin Tuck, Osi Umenyiora and Jason Pierre-Paul lined up on the edge, the world champions possess the most dynamic and versatile set of 4-3 (or 3-4 for that matter) pass rushers in the NFL. And as the Bears are set to enter into the season with their most glaring weaknesses along the offensive line, there is no doubting the match-up of these two units is Friday night's main event. DING!

But as should be expected from a group that's won two of the last five titles, Tom Coughlin's Giants feature another signature strength. As their running game in the post-Tiki Barber era has been reduced to one of the league's worst (dead last in 2011), the G-men have turned to Eli Manning's big play ability to win games. They are among the league's top teams in every statistical category measuring the ability to throw the ball downfield.

Lovie Smith ought to be hoping Giants offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride dials up a few shots over the top.

A week ago, I would have shrugged off this concept, leaning on my go-to "it's just another meaningless game" mantra. But the injury suffered by free safety Chris Conte against the Washington Redskins changes that. Conte is the only safety on the Bears roster with the skill set to play the center fielder role. He has great closing speed and exceptional hands. His instincts were a bit rookie-ish in his rookie season (imagine that) but most reports from Bourbonnais seemed to suggest he had found his comfort zone in Lovie's defense.

Can a combination of Major Wright, Craig Steltz and Anthony Walters handle the workload at safety? If Conte missing the first two weeks of the season can those three individuals defend the NFL's blossoming golden boy Andrew Luck and current golden boy Aaron Rodgers? The Bears will most likely have an opportunity to test the Conte-less group Friday night in New Jersey. If they fail, Smith and Marinelli will have a great deal of work to do before the whistle blows against the Indianapolis Colts.

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  • Second to say that if we get pressure up the middle from Melton that is Warren Sapp like then we won't have to worry about anyone in the secondary.

    Like you said on the last blog, pressure can make other players look great.

  • First to say that this game really is about the o-line. They are the ones that decide whether or not Cutler get's knocked the hell out of or has a clean pocket to throw to Marshall.

  • Don't you love chicagonow?

  • Did that just fucking happen....

    Smh.

  • I thought you were doing a David Lettermen countdown.

  • The Giants will be a good test for the Bears to see how our defense will look against playoff level competition with some injuries. We're without Lach and a couple of DBs; next time maybe it will be no Peppers and short on guys to play Will. Whatever the case, its not realistic to expect everybody to be healthy every game.

    Great teams weather the storm and look to their role players to pick up the slack. They also look to healthy starters to cover up the weak spots. I agree that Melton, Peppers, Izzy, Shea, Paea, all those guys on our stacked D-line need to make it impossible for any wide reciever to get deep in time to catch any hurriedly thrown passes. The game is still meaningless, but we need to know that we could stop the big passers if we wanted to.

  • Is it unreasonable for me to wish they sit Cutler for this game? That Gmen Dline is scary. We have an unproven Oline in a meaningless game. Save the franchise for another meaningful game.

  • In reply to BAM46Blitz:

    No.

  • Also, whatever happened to Ghost,Crown,and wasn't there another AL besides Al in Arizona (no disrespect meant ALinTuscon)? Hope those guys are safe/healthy/alive.

  • In reply to BAM46Blitz:

    we think the ghost might unfortunately be one at this stage... and crown comes around a drops a couple bombs every once in a while, the disappears back into the ether.

  • In reply to BAM46Blitz:

    Another "Al" ?

    I can HEAR the grumblling now ...

    "Heaven forbid! ONE 'o them grumpy old fogies is plenty."

  • R2 is right. It's not the secondary, it's the pressure up front. What the hell can you learn from safties playing 30 yards deep when the ball is snapped? Outside of, you know, terrible tackling technique... Seriously, why do John Hoke and Lovie Smith instruct their safties to tackle head down? I know they want punishng safties, but the safties are the ones who have been receiving the punishment from shit tackling. Supposedly the secondary is Lovies' area of expertise...

  • In reply to Shady:

    The impression I'm getting from interviews is that the coaches blame the shorter practices. You're in such a hurry to teach things like scheme, playbook, play recognition, etc. that basic tackling technique gets little or no attention. The guys are expected to have learned this stuff in college. You have guys with poor wrap-up skills that rely on a nasty punch to finish the play right away.

    I think its also frankly more painful to hit with your chest open (to allow for the wrap up) than to just hit with your shoulder. So guys are using this techique trying to avoid getting hurt, but actually make themselves more likely to get hurt. Almost like a baseball player playing tight - they're so scared of making a mistake that they're more likely to make a mistake.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Can't really hit in practice anymore. Only way to practice tackling is to tackle. It's a league wide issue, and actually, our guys are pretty good at tackling relatively speaking (how many other teams have CBs with 99 tackles?)

    However, both Conte and Hardin are converted CBs. Wright was a third round unpolished "project." Steltz has solid tech - even on our own guys.

    We've talked about this before. Safety is just an injury prone position, second only to HB (Look at Bob Sanders,Mike Brown, Polamalu, Reed, Berry...)

  • Guys who have to be fast enough to cover receivers deep but are expected to take on RBs at the line of scrimmage...yep, recipe for getting beat up fast. And the guys who can do both and hold up turn out to be HOF middle linebackers like Lach.

    What a thankless position.

  • "Steltz has solid tech - even on our own guys."

    Hee hee

  • Can the 99 tackles be attributed to the cover-who letting too many WR's catch too many damn passes?

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Yes and no. It's true that T2 (and L2) is happy to give offenses the underneath passes -- it asks its players to cover/jam deep routes and close fast on short routes, which does lead to higher QB comp% and thus more tackles. But also the scheme and Lovie demands above average run support skills out of its DBs, especially the corners.

  • Oh they were tackling during this camp in spurts - it was going off in camp, Lovie turned a blind eye apparently.

  • That was just the 3rd and 4th string players. Actually I think it's great.

    Lovie wasn't turning a blind eye, full contact is allowed in training camp -- it's just that virtually every coach in the NFL doesn't do it anymore. The backlash of losing a starter to injury during a live tackling drill would be too much. So nobody does it.

    But I think it's awesome Lovie decided to close TC sessions with live tackling for the backups to the backups. It's one way to see what you have amongst the fringe players, and one more useful data point to consider when picking the bottom of the roster... guys that might actually play in a game for you someday.

  • In reply to Shady:

    "Supposedly the secondary is Lovies' area of expertise..."

    Yes. Exactly. That is exactly right...

    ...just like oline was jerry angelo's 'area of expertise'.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Irony is a cruel cruel bitch.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I thought Lovies area of expertise was poorly times time outs and throwing ridiculous challenge flags.

  • there it is.

  • DOn't forget his PhD in Jumbotron analysis.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    I first interpreted that as

    "PhD in Jabroni Analysis"

    http://youtu.be/L3FycxyAqR0

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Actually linebackers was Lovie's area before he became a DC in STL.

    I'm not sure anyone has ever said the secondary was Lovie's area of expertise (Herm Edwards handled the secondary in Tampa). Do you think this because Lovie took up the role of nickel position coach? I think he just did that because 1) they didn't already have one, 2) he was itching to get his hands dirty a bit (like Tice does with the OL, and Mari does with the DL), and 3) the nickel is a position that allows him to add wrinkles to his scheme -- which if you haven't noticed, Lovie likes to do.

    Notice for example how much he likes to utilize the nickel blitz (from both sides of the formation), and also how effective it has been over the years at generating huge plays.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    And just how many wrinkles do all of us have to pick up in return when Lovie adds one to the scheme?

  • In reply to Shady:

    This article sort of answers your question. Also there was a Marinelli interview recently about tackling as a dying art form.

    http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/14642784-606/bears-safeties-have-been-far-from-safe-under-lovie-smith.html

    85 and NBIT are also right that NFL practices are to blame really. Also don't forget Hardin is a rookie, and has been basically out of football for over a year (almost two in terms of non all-star games) to boot. I think you can probably cut Lovie and Hoke a break...

  • In reply to Michael L:

    At the end of this article, Marinelli is quoted as:

    ‘‘It’s football,’’ Marinelli said. ‘‘I’ve seen that ever since I’ve been in this system. The safety has to come down and make those tackles. They’re your free hitters. And the type of guys we get like hitting.’’

    So what is it, Rod? Tackling or hitting? I think that the last sentence explains exactly why Bears safeties are so oft-injured. There were calls on this blog for some dude out of the Pac-10 in the last draft because he was a "big hitter".

    No thanks - I want guys that get the ball carrier on the ground and are not likely to kill themselves or their teammates in the process.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    I'd cut 'em a break if this were something new. It's not.

  • Here are my two key elements to watch in this game... they are our two glaring, thin deficiencies. Are you ready for this shocker....

    1. Oline
    2. Safeties

    Was I really just forced to fucking type that for the 1 millionth time over the last 3 years (do I get a prize?)… still. Man that shit gets tired. Can we PLEASE fucking fix that shit next year??? PLEASE!?!?! I would totally be fine with a Oline/Safety only FA and draft… except for our first rd pick which should go towards lach’s future 12 year replacement in that Hawaiian kid from ND.

    As for this game, I would put cutty in for one MAYBE two series then sit him for little bit of Campbell, and a whole lot of Blanchard and McClown. There is zero reason to risk the franchise’s life in this game. WebbNation is going to get fucking turnstiled no matter who’s back there at QB, might as well give Blanchard some of the pain he’s in for if he’s our future.

    I honestly think that the positions/players to watch are:
    • Costanzo/Hayes/Thomas
    • Some of the younger corners
    • The young WRs again
    • …and the TEs

    Everything else is either set in stone or we don’t have any other better fucking options for the shit that we haven’t fixed in years that’s there now (I’m still looking at you WebNation).

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It gets tired just saying "we need help at tackle and safety."

    Now that Mongo is running for mayor, I want to take over his bar and call it "Tackle and Safety".

    Or a T-shirt that says that, and on the back it says "MB told you so."

    Maybe Jeff, you can make that the next Bears shirt design.

    Esp. if it turns out Hardin is too fragile to play hard hitting safety. We drafted a guy with a broken clavicle that was a corner, and asked him to play safety. Only with Lovie.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Genie only grants you one wish per Bday MB.

  • can I wish that we pick up an unbreakable version of Mike Brown in our 2nd rd next year... and find a gem in the later rounds a la Jason Peterson?

    ...or is that two wishes? Damn it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Maybe, "Can we repeat the 65 draft"?

    I know one thing, Genie's don't like when your one wish is for unlimited wishes...

  • that I've found, is true.

  • Ohhh, 1965.

    Time for a History Lesson, students.

    They went 9-5.

    They JUST missed the post-season that year.

    Maybe because Sayers didn't START the first couple of games, Papa Bear?

    Started 0-3, including a game against the rames they led 28-9 in the 4tH QUARTER. A game that out of 18 rushing attempts, Sayers had ONE (for an 18 yard TD.)

    They finished 9-2 including a 31-10 rout of the eventual Champs, Green Bay.

    THAT was a fun team to watch.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    His name was Gary Fencik.

  • For anyone curious about what Safeties are still available in FA, click here:

    http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2012S.php

    If you want to get depressed further, click on the OT FAs.

    More than likely (if we're not sold on Walters), we'll scoop up some cut vet or UFA flier when the cuts commence.

    After seeing the QB ClusterFu#k at QB in Ariz, I'd be wanting out if I were Adrian Wilson...a boy can dream...

  • Speaking of Adrian Wilson, are there any other good Safeties on crappy "rebuilding" teams we can trade for?

  • Did anyone else see the story that Bennett's chest injury last year was actually a lacerated liver?
    Ouch.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Guess his underwears didn't have that new "liver protecting" feature...

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    No wonder he didn't play.

  • Suh still claiming his stump was "unintentional". Here's some footage of him defending himself.

    http://youtu.be/bEovJYZsiDY

    I don't know who's more full of shit, Suh, or Saint Fans...

  • wow, nice penis lady: http://www.mandatory.com/2012/08/21/these-photos-were-perfectly-timed-for-your-amusement/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmaing11%7Cdl14%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D195272#photo=6

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "This might be inappropriate..."

  • that line made me lawlz

  • I'm sorry but I would not play Cutler if I were the coach of the Bears. I would also have slutty cheerleaders roaming the sidelines but that's just me.

    You can test the offensive line without putting the season's head on the chopping block.

    If Cutler plays against the fucking murder squad that is the Giants DL i will not be happy. If he does play please call as many bootlegs, 3 step drops and shotguns as possible. Jesus Christ those DL from New York are fucking badasses.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    This is the game where we showcase roll-outs, screens, reverses, draws to slow down the pass rush. We haven't really featured those to date. Then again, maybe the coaches don't want to show their hand yet and rather evaluate their Oline straight up, which is not good news for Cutler.

    This is the game where we need to run it down their throats. Best way to nullify JPP is to have a 245 pounder accompanied by 6'7 260 pound TEs go straight at him.

    If we can pound the rock, control the clock, that would bode well for our play-off games.

    If the G-men begin stacking the box, time to unleash the Crackin...Beast fade...Alshon jump ball...

  • 4E85...I likey the coined name "Kracken"

  • "This is the game where we need to run it down their throats."

    Bingo.

  • What he said.

  • http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=8997

    When I see Anthony Walters' name in the top 6 spots for a position on an NFL team I get really sad. When I realize that he is on OUR team I want to jump off a bridge.

    Do you guys realize that Anthony Walters is behind STELTZ and WRIGHT at safety? That means he is pretty much a starter....for the Bears....the Chicago Bears....of the NFL....you know, the football league. No, this is not an Onion article. That just happened.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    What's wrong with Walters being a 5th safety? He was a rookie last year that they liked. You don't think he should be an NFL player or something? A 5th safety on every team is usually a roster cut or special teams player anyway...

    BTW, here's more info about him... He had the highest special teams grade after Gould on Saturday:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4677270/walters-has-opportunity-to-secure-a-spot

  • In reply to Michael L:

    Michael, HE'S OUR 3RD safety now!!!!!! Wright or Steltz go down and the starting safety for the Chicago Bears is WALTERS. Not cool.

    Watch the film on this guy in a bears uniform. He doesn't have NFL instincts, aggression, quickness or speed that translates to the game on the field. Besides that i'm sure he's a great kid.

  • should we start the discussion about 'system vs star' yet? Or what a solid oline and a set of star receivers and TEs can do for a QB and team?

    http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-08-21/russell-wilson-seattle-seahawks-qb-battle-matt-flynn-pete-carroll

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Russell Wilson impressed the hell out of me last year at Wisconsin. He was a great decision-maker who can run, but rarely took the big hit. He's supposed to be too short, about an inch shorter than Drew Brees.

  • ooohhh shiete!!!! pulled up the thread just now and all I could think is....

    FUCKING MB's VEIN MUST BE THROBBING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    btw............. I'm talking about the one on his forehead!!!....you sick "F"er's....lol

  • Anthony Walters > Trevor Coston?

    I can't believe I just asked that question.

  • Starters in Week 1:

    Pringles and Steltz

    Pringles suffers a season-ending injury

    Week 2:

    Steltz and Conte

    Week 3:

    Walters and Steltz

    Week 4:

    LaGree and Jackmeoff Mudd

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/16/jackmeoff-mudd-arrested-florida_n_1792366.html

  • In reply to gpldan:

    think peppers can play a bit 'O FS?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Do not underestimate the range and tackling ability of Jackmeoff Mudd.

    I thought Cunty's injury wasn't bad and he'll be back for week 1? More Lovie lip service?

  • Mudd is on the SWOOOOOLE

  • Before we start jumping off the San Pedro Bridge (RIP director of "Top Gun"), I'm gonna repost this...

    2011 Left Tackles ProFootball Focus (PFF) overall grade

    The Best

    1 LT Jason Peters PHI +27.6
    2 LT Eugene Monroe JAX +14.6
    3 LT Duane Brown HST +12.3
    4 LT Joe Thomas CLV +11.5
    4 LT Jordan Gross CAR +11.5

    The NFCN

    14 LT Jeff Backus DET -2.1
    21 LT Charlie Johnson MIN -12.6
    26 LT J'Marcus Webb CHI -26.2
    30 LT Marshall Newhouse GB -40.5 (Last in NFL)

    Misery loves company...

    2011 Safety overall grades

    Best in NFL...

    1 Troy Polamalu PIT +19.2
    2 Adrian Wilson ARZ +16.1
    3 Jairus Byrd BUF +13.0
    4 Eric Weddle SD +12.8
    5 Kam Chancellor SEA +11.4

    NFCN Safety Grades

    24 Husain Abdullah MIN +1.0
    32 Mistral Raymond MIN -0.9
    35 Morgan Burnett GB -1.3
    39 Louis Delmas DET -2.0
    40 Chris Conte CHI -2.1
    54 Major Wright CHI -5.0
    71 Charlie Peprah GB -8.6
    76 Amari Spievey DET -11.5

  • jesus.

  • I think Peters was had for a first, 4th and a 6th? What price Jake Long?

  • Funny, was that your question in Pompei's mailbag Irish?

    Peters was traded only because he was supremely unhappy, wanted big-time paper, and was holding out. Is there any sign Long is in a similar boat? Also IIRC, Peters had only one awesome season prior to that, whereas Long has had several. I doubt Long will even be on the trade market, but if he were, I wouldn't be surprised if the price were much, much higher than it was for Peters.

  • We're only looking for a backup - surely Steltz and Wright can hold it together until Hardin and Conte are good to go?

  • FF Alert (for all you Jeff hardliner Anti-FFist, skip this)

    Hey, for the Auction league, I noticed that ea team has TWO byes during the season? WTF?

    Why not just make EVERY WEEK count? The other league is like that (also twelve teams).

    I posted this over at the league, but if the settings can be changed so that we play every week, that would be much better.

  • That can be changed easily.

    I had a feeling that would happen when you add 2 new teams.

    I'll recalculate it.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Fixed.

    Bang! Bang!

    Speaking of which... anyone seen this song? (Not a Rickroll... promise)

    Bang! Bang! Bang!

    I don't want to give you choc-o-lates.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Is that kim jun Il singing?

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Song brings me back to freshman year at IU. This one too:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9Q2WvrF_Lg

  • Getting serious in FL

    @AdamSchefter
    In light of Jaguars owner Shad Khan's recent public remarks, Jacksonville's RB Maurice Jones-Drew is now open to being traded, per source.

  • please god not the packers... wait...

  • MJD is such bitch, I'd trade him to Oakland for DMC and a 1st or 2nd in a heartbeat. Oakland would be stupid enough to do it as well.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    I don't think even Oakland would be that stupid. Maybe DMC for MJD with the Jags throwing in the 2nd rounder...

  • That Podlesh injury is not good news, but anytime that my biggest worry in preseason is the punter, I'll take it.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I'm more concerned about him as a holder to be honest. Podlesh is like Gould's "go to" beat mag or favorite blankie. I don't want anything getting in the way of Robbie drilling everything that they line him up for.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Yeah remember how close Robbie came to tears when he lost his previous pacifier, he really didn't like Maynard leaving so him having to deal with a new holder might kick up a fuss. Might as well train J.Campbell to do it tbh. We're paying him good money to sit and do squat (and not play QB hopefully) and the prospect of Toub getting to draw up some wacky fakes on FGs and such is enticing.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    I like that idea....

  • In reply to Waffle:

    The guy lead the league in net punt average last year; he'll be missed in his own right too, but I agree about Robbie's mojo.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    yeah, he had a great year and it always helps to have a solid punter like that. Here's to a quick recovery.

  • I was just reading through all the "Why your team sucks" articles in Deadspin. Holy cow the world hates Cutler. lol Even Raiders fan was dogging him and they have that aged excuse of a QB called Palmer.

  • You have to keep in mind that most fans just parrot back the bullshit they hear and read. Most fans don't watch the Bears unless their team is playing them (media included). So all the smack talk is canned bullshit. Years ago I realized that I knew more about the Beloved than most of the media that didn't cover the Bears on a regular basis. It's actually shocking sometimes to watch the talking heads spew totally false bullshit about the Bears because that is the prevailing stereotype. Without a doubt ESPN is the worst when it comes to this crap. The pre-game shows are horrible when they cover teams from the other conference. Almost all of the info is suspect.

  • The prospect of a Bears QB that is actually really good raises the specter of the 1940s teams under Luckman.

    And that scares a lot of them.

  • MB or anyone else who can shed light,

    Why don't I see any info on PS3 and NFL Sunday Ticket on the PS Network? How does one, such as myself, go about purchasing said Ticket for PS3? Care to help a brother out?

  • my doc... sorry. Shady and I were online last night and I looked around the PS store, and I still have the ST app installed and nothing.

    Not yet at least. I am going to call DTV today and ask. I HOPE those motherfuckers didn't scrap the program after year 1. Would totally be like DTV though, just ask Rabbit.

    I’ll let you know what I find out my man.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah, I'm curious too. Last year I didn't need it, but this year I might.

  • Any word on when the shirts will be shipped? I'm going to Mexico soon and if my headless body is found along the roadside I want it to be easily identifiable.

  • MB and Waffle, I disagree with both of you. They need to treat this like a real game, like they said they would do. This is not the time to run scared -- this is the time to put the league on notice, and to prove you have an answer to any supposed "book" on your offense.

    Say you play Cutler for 1 or 2 pedestrian series, and then throw Campbell back there. If it's anything like the previous 2 games, he hangs onto the ball too long, and he and the "first-team" offense look bad. This would be a disaster. Every team in the league, and worse the Bears players themselves, will now believe that you take Cutler out and they're screwed. That's horrible for confidence, and everyone, especially the OL, will spend the season playing on their heels. Not to mention it will be open season on Cutler as every DC throws the blitz book at them, hoping one will cause enough confusion to land a kill shot. Worse, it might actually succeed.

    Now contrast that scenario against what happens if you put Cutler out there with a solid protection game plan, and he carves up the Giants like he did the Redskins. If Tice neutralizes the Giants' strength with strong rushing, quick releases, smart protection schemes, judicious rollouts, and letting Cutler audible and leverage his awesome blitz reading and adjusting ability (like he did on the first play against the Redskins for 41 yards to Marshall against an all-out blitz)... and the Bears show no fear... that changes the entire tenor of the season. Put fear and doubt into your opponents' minds, put confidence in your own players' minds (confidence in themselves and in your game plan to put them in positions to succeed), and then you set the stage for a good start to the season where you can compound those.

    The last thing you want to do is put fear into the minds of your own players, throw out an open invitation to pick on your worst weakness, concede that you are more afraid than innovative or resourceful, and start the season with the whole league and every fan (remember this game is being broadcast on national TV) thinking the best way to beat you is by overpowering you. Every DC is afraid of looking like an idiot, but no DC will worry about backlash if they blitz too much and get burned by Cutler because they'll know they'll get a free pass after a tail-tucked, pathetic showing on national TV against the Giants -- "obviously" that was still a "smart" strategy even if it didn't work out. But all it takes is one of those ill-advised blitzes to slip through to derail the season. Why invite it?

    I'd much rather Tice and Lovie show some balls, show they know how to coach, and put the league and nation on notice that there are real consequences if they think they can just roll over their OL... and then continue to prove it in the regular season.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    well when you put it like that....

  • In reply to Michael L:

    Very little, if any, of the plays they do in preseason are any indication of in-season game planning. The preseason is in essence for the 2nd stringers and rookies/UFA to see who can actually make the team. Playing Cutler at all against a Dline that can potentially derail a possible SB team is insane. Fear/Pride/Glory should have NOTHING to do with deciding wheter or not to risk the safety of your Franchise and therefore FUTURE of your upcoming season. Showing opposing DC's that they need to be on their best gameplans is easier by making them WONDER what you are going to do come the regular season.When the games count. Sit Cutler. Till Game 1.

  • In reply to BAM46Blitz:

    You're wrong there. The 3rd game of the preseason almost always involves gameplanning, albeit not a full gameplan. Hence the famous "We played them in the 3rd game -- everybody played 3 quarters -- the Bears are who we thought they were!" quote. That's your one dress rehearsal for the season.

    Now, my point wasn't that it's just about fear/pride/glory, though I thought it might come off that way. It actually is, at its essence, about the safety of the franchise, and the QB, and the season... believe it or not.

    When it comes down to it, with Tice a new OC with a new system, this game will be analyzed by opponents. Further, because this game happened to be selected for national broadcast, and is against the champion Giants, it will set the context for how fans, coaches, and players will view the Bears (just like the infamous 9 sack Cutler game) and what kind of team they are. Call it a blessing or a curse, but that's the straw the Bears drew.

    Given this situation, setting a national narrative that the "book" on beating the Bears is to bring overwhelming pressure and break the offense would be a very bad thing. Let's say if the Bears flew under the radar (no national game) going into the season that opponents would be naturally inclined to blitz 45% of passing plays. If you put a showing like that on, you might instead embolden DCs around the league to blitz 60% of the time. That is 80-90 more plays you are now asking your OL to hold up against extra pressure over the season. Even if that means "only" 15-20 more sacks in the season, that's a terrible price. But worse, if the OL and offense struggles (and clearly the difference between Cutler and Campbell right now is huge), then they lose confidence, which makes those extra 80-90 blitzes even more dangerous to your QB, season, and franchise...

    Which would you rather have... 15-20 passing plays vs the Giants defense this week, or 80-90 more blitzes against a self-doubting OL during the season? Which is more dangerous?

    Let me be clear. I don't advocate being reckless, or just showing balls for the sake of showing balls. Under different circumstances I might even agree to limit Cutler's snaps in a 3rd PS game. But given the current situation, with a new OC, with Campbell not up to speed yet, with questions on the OL, and under the national spotlight... I believe the prudent course -- the safer course -- is to not back down. Now if 2 series into the game it's clear your OL and your game planning is completely overmatched, then by all means pull the plug and protect your QB and just deal with the fallout. But short of that, you're doing better for your team by standing up to challenges instead of running.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    Yeah, like facing up to the bully in the school playground. Works most of the time.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    MIchael, your logic makes sense...until you apply it to the fact that the Giants front 4 are fucking unlike anything in the league and therefore defy logic. Sorry man, you can throw stats around all day but when you inject the element of reality into it the worst possible outcome becomes possible and there is no reason to risk that.

    Let those other team blitz all they want and we'll burn them all day with our weapons. DO NOT let the Giants tee off or potentially tee off on the franchise in a preseason game.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    How is getting reps into Campbell a bad thing ? In order to risk injury to the franchise QB? Campbell's gone next year.ould we let Cutty open up the playbook and tip off Green Bay for week two. I'd have no problem if they payed vanilla football all PS and then opened up the throttle in week two.

  • Should we let Cutty open up the playbook and tip off Green Bay for week two?, even .....

  • It's not bad to get Campbell reps, but given his performance so far in PS (he has been slow to adjust to pressure and collapsing pockets) he's not likely to fare very well against the Giants starters.

    As for tipping off GB, first of all, a normal NFL playbook has easily 300 plays... preparing 30 plays and showing off 15-20 in a game won't be that big of a deal. Secondly, they've already started tipping off GB via their gameplanning against WAS last week. Arguably that was more relevant anyway since it was against a 3-4 defense like GB. Week 1 will reveal plenty too, since that will be a full game against another 3-4 defense (IND). So I wouldn't sweat the normal gameplanning done in PS week 3.

    Don't think it's a given that Cutty and Co can just blast out of the gate the first week they open the throttle either. This is a new offense. The first time they played another team (DEN), Campbell and the first unit looked like crap. That was a 4-3 team too, incidentally. Getting practice against another 4-3 team before the games start counting is probably a good thing.

    Besides Campbell is going to get a ton of time to play in the finale...

  • Solid logic Mike but I'm still not buying. This league is almost always about who is healthiest and there is no reason to risk Cutler against the NY GIANTS in a preseason game. Sorry.

  • Did someone already say...

    ELI FUCKING DEAD!

    No?

    Then... that.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    ELI DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Fucking Izzy's old ass playing for a contract this year. He is going to bring the heat. I want Pep to come off the edge and pull a Stafford on that motherfucker.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Yes! I can't stand these Giants fans. What's worse, I live and work like 29 mins away from the godamn stadium

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Now now...Pepp has got to reserve the "Stafford Breaker" for Week 2...

    Besides, it's a little hard for me to begrudge a guy who smoked the Packers at Lambeau twice in the playoffs, even if he does look like that giant from The Goonies...

  • Gotta agree with Michael on this one. Do you really want to admit you're intimidated by the opposition? As if Cutler doesn't get enough shit about being a pussy. All the idiots in the media and beyond would go bonkers. Not that it makes any difference what people say but it has to be tiresome for the players. What kind of a msg does it send to the OL? You guys are no match for these guys and we're going to just roll over and sit this one out. Preposterous. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves for even mentioning this.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    WE DON'T EVEN PLAY THE FUCKING GIANTS THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!!!! The only way we see them is if we are in the playoffs. If we are in the playoffs with this current division it means we stomped on motherfuckers this year and that is the only thing that matters.

    Do not risk everything for nothing.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    It has nothing to do with playing the G-Men this year. Every team we played would be dogging Cutler about bowing out of a game due to cowardice. If we can't play against the best DL in the league we're admitting defeat. That goes against everything the coaches preach every day in practice. Not only does that call into doubt our OL but also our coaches and the entire Offensive system.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I'm not worried about what MJD says on twitter. I am more concerned with Cutler getting hurt by TUCK, JPP or OSI because we didn't truly gameplan for the contest.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    We game planned last week for the Deadskins. We'll have a game plan this week too.

  • I am surprised you guys are not talking about the surgery Urlacher had in Europe. Sounds like Urlacher has been trying his best to get back on the field.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/ct-spt-0822-mike-mulligan-chicago-bears--20120823,0,1418446.column

  • It wasn't surgery. It was injections. Apparently it didn't help.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    My bad but either way.. The guy is trying every way to get back on the field.

  • No doubt. Hopefully he comes back close to the same and stays on the field all year.

  • I heard a guy named Oscar Goldman could help him.

  • Honestly, I've already prepared my mind for Lach not returning until October. Yeah, I said it, October (Remember Carimi last year?)

    If he comes back sooner, gravy. But I don't want him reaggravating his inj. When I saw RG3 scramble and streak down the sideline, I was thinking, "No way Lach with that knee could have chased him down like b4."

    Then a small tear slid down my cheek...

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4ozVMxzNAA

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Hehe! (upside down smile).

    Reminds me of what Adam Corolla once said. He said, 'What's wrong with stereotype!? Sometimes they're good. Like what's wrong with the stereotype that Native Americans are brave and honorable with great cheek bones and a chiseled body with a deep respect for mother nature? Whats wrong with being portrayed as wise and having balls of steel? We need more of those guys on tv. I miss that guy.'

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Well, it may well have helped. The original injury was to the PCL and MCL, both of which have healed by now.

    But the recent arthroscopic surgery was to smooth the surface of the joint and/or remove debris/loose cartilage -- something that the injections really aren't likely to do much for.

  • Jay Cutler makes the o-line look a lot better than what they really are. I am sure you guys knew this already but look at the tape.

    The first few plays, Tice had 8 people blocking for Cutler, and only two receivers running routes. When the line did have to block, Cutler didn't hold onto the ball long. Something Campbell did too many times and got sacked a few times when doing so.

    Tice and Cutler will make this o-line as good as it can be. Whether it's Jay using his arm and legs or Tice having extra people blocking. I don't think our o-line woes are going to go away this year but Jay and Tice can work together and make it manageable. They did the same thing when we were 7-3 last year.

  • The Bears' win streak to go from 2-3 to 7-3 was against teams whose combined record was 33-47 so I don't put much stock in it.

    For the rest of preseason, my big concern is whether or not Campbell or Blanchard can be good enough to win us games. It seems likely that at some point we will need them.

    No slam on Cutler - believe me I know he is one tough s.o.b. But *how many times* can you get the shit drilled out of you before something breaks down?

  • I feel everyone's frustration that we don't have The Hogs in place. Didn't we look okay for a while last year? Shouldn't we better this year for all the reasons we've talked about?

    If people feel the need to worry, then worry about 54.

  • Just a reminder this game counts for nothing. Nada.

    If the line seems to be holding their own, sure run a few series with Jay, but if the line is having "on of those games" take him out ASAP. The rest of the preseason is for figuring out the bottom of the 53 man roster , not for Cutler or the Bears to "prove" anything. Swallow your pride and don't put the franchise in harms way any more than he needs to be.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I agree with that. I don't want to get Cutler hurt any more than any other regular here. We have to keep in mind that Martz and his idiotic stubbornness to run his ancient scheme was as much to blame as anything. Also, we had rookies playing (Webb and Louis) that didn't have a clue about assignments. Also, Cutler got knocked out on the 3rd or 4th sack so he was floating around in a daze just waiting to get pummeled after that.

    If Cutler makes the correct adjustments, we'll burn their asses and they will call off the blitzes. Have a little faith fellas.

  • Repost-
    Any word on when the shirts will be shipped? I'm going to Mexico soon and if my headless body is found along the roadside I want it to be easily identifiable

  • You want the band to be back together even if you're apart.

    Good call...

  • MBP, this is for you maings. One of these would make a sweet housewarming present: http://uncrate.com/stuff/custom-handmade-growlers/

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Those are too bad ass...and the fact that you can customize the shit out of it when you order is nice.
    Kind of makes me want to find out how much a custom Bears one would run...

  • You know, this whole "Play the Giants for real, don't play the Giants for real" debate reminds me of the debate we had on here about playing our starters the last game against GB when they went to the SB.

    If I remember correctly, the blog was split about 50/50. I was on the conservative side, advocating a little playing time, but mostly rest our starters. History has shown I was wrong there (although who could have predicted Cutler's inj in the NFCN Championship Game?)

    So this time around, I'll have to go the aggressive route: PLAY THE G-MEN like it's the play-offs.

    Yes, yes, I know it's only pre-season, but these are extenuating circumstances.

    1) The G-men possess the best pass-rushes, which present the ULTIMATE litmus test for our Oline, indeed, our entire Offense. They will put the fire under Cutler, Webb, Tice, and see if the steel needs more tempering.

    2) The G-men are the WORLD CHAMPS. It just so happens that we got them in the pre-season, but it's not everyday you're given the opportunity to take down the world champs, and as a result, sky-rocketing everyone's confidence.

    3) NINE SACKS...if we all know the significance of this, imagine how Cutler feels. That game represented the low-point in his career, IMO. It made him lose confidence in Martz, the Oline, WRS, and who knows, maybe down deep inside, a little in himself.

    This must not be. Like in the first Batman where Ra's Al Ghul beat Bruce Wayne to a bloody pulp and made him face his fears - the Gmen are that test for the Bears. They got to face it like a man.

    Like a Batman.

    That is all.

  • + to Infinity....weel said 4E85 on all points!!!!!

    FUCK THE G-MEN!!!

  • +1 baby

  • Doc, just got off the phone with DTV (that was fun... jesus).

    According to brandon... Sunday Ticket WILL indeed be available again through your PS3 (which means who the hell knows if it actually will be available through your PS3).

    They will only start offering it on the weekend of Sept 1st. I have zero idea why they wouldn't offer it up for pre-sale so that they will have a better idea of how many people will be watching it, so as to eliminate the terrible freezing bottleneck issues they've had the last two years running.

    I have no idea how/why that company is still in business. Anyway, if the service is in fact available again this year, might be available to purchase on the sept 1st weekend… but you probably won’t be able to watch anything because they are clueless and it will probably be a total clusterfuck again. Not to worry, once you order it and one of the most important football weekends of the year has been hopelessly fucked, you’ll be able to partake in perfect quality feeds every weekend thereafter.

    Feel better? Me neither.

  • If it makes anybody feel better, it sounds like JPP will be sitting out the game vs the Bears.
    He must have strained his back throwing Amakumura into the ice tub again.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    And I could give a shit if I spelled his last name right.

  • MAAAAINGS!!!

    So I just got off the phone with one of my company’s biggest partners (they are a leader in our industry). We’re starting to do a new integration with them that will be big for both of us… blah, blah, blah.

    Aaaaanyway, we haven’t visited them in years and they want me and our head of BizDev to come visit to talk about this new program launch. Guess where their headquarters is… and guess which week they want us out there… and guess who just secured their corporate tickets to the fucking home opening at soldier field against the colts!?!??!!

    • Chicago
    • Early week of Sept. 10th
    • ME!!!
    • BOOOOOOM!!!!

    I am soooo fucking pumped. Although I have to admit I am a little sad. I kind of wanted to my first experience at soldier to be against the packers, in December, for the NFCN title. But how can I possibly turn down great FREE corporate season AND home opener tickets for our first WINNING super bowl year in 27 years? Alas, I cannot.

    Ok, so… who’s signing up to show MB some of the scene and the Chicago wool that inhabits it, in a couple weeks? I’ll have a crazy aussie with me so take that into consideration.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    and guess who just secured their corporate tickets to the fucking home opening at soldier field against the colts!?!??!!

    You. Ya big lug.

    The corporate teat. Nice. Very very nice.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    boom. where are you taking me for drinks GP. I'll buy the second round.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'll call Jay and Kristin and book a table for four.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Blitzkrieg will be at the O'hare with an MB sign waiting to show you a good time - maybe try to sneak in a bagel dog or two lol

  • FUCK!!! Our guy just got called out of the country that week. FUCKITY FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!

    Man, talk about a boner to the opposite of a boner. Damn it.

    To be 100% truthful, I am kinda glad. That game on the Dec 16th was my mecca man. First game ever at soldier, in the cold ass winter, against the fucking packers, for the div title. I was a little sad about watering it down.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Inverse Boner?

    The Colt's game would have been nice only for two reasons.
    1) You get to see Luck's first game in what will be a HOF career.
    2) You get to say you were at the opener of the Bears SB Championship year.

  • exactly why I was so pumped (mostly #2)… but you know, thanks for reiterating. Jerk.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Well played, sir, well played.

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    I started coming to this blog mid year last year. I found the debate to be very informed. The pre-draft, draft and off season banter was very good as well. But I have to tell you guys that it seems we've run out of material. Let the games begin.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Damn, and I was just gonna post my thesis on how I reverse engineered Regenokine.

    I guess for Lack, it should be called Regenokinda don't work.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    here you go Mike: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JBQpTxXisg

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    In reply to MB30SD:

    Thanks for the Happy Thoughts.

    Just want the season to be here, no injuries, etc.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    +1

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Exactly. I'm sure the Lion blogs (shudders) is full of activity, "Did you read what Suh said on GQ?" "Who's gonna be our RB?" "Who's gonna be our DB?" "How are we gonna keep all our stars next year with the cap hell?" blah blah...

    Or imagine the Jets blog...

    Nice and quiet off-season for the most part, as it should be.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Did anyone know there are monkeys loose in Tampa?

    http://www.wildflorida.com/articles/Wild_Monkeys_in_Florida.php

  • I have an explanation for that.
    I was driving on I-4 in Tampa last month and the pickup truck in front of me had a big sign that stated, "Baby Monkeys For Sale - 1-blah-blah-blah".

    If you sell monkeys out of the back of a pickup, you are going to lose a few here and there.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    -1

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Good stuff! Almost nothing would surprise me down in Florida. Both good and bad. Spent 10 days in Ft. Myers Beach last December. Best vacation in a long time.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Clearly, you must already know of an inverse boner then.

  • I'm going to advocate the opposite approach to the G-Men.

    Start Campbell. Start Bush. Cutler and Forte dress but don't play.

    The way you neutralize the rush is either:

    A smashmouth run game
    Screen passes
    Guys who rock the slant pattern from the Gun.

    Both of which are OL work. I don't see that we need to work timing or put Cutler at risk. It's just foolish.

    Work everything else. Williams needs work at long snapping from the gun. We need to see if we can run the ball. Call traps, make it very very physical in the trenches. See what your line is made of. But don't put your stars at risk because it doesn't buy you anything. Nobody is going to call us chicken - it's common practice to let the starters sit in game 3 unless they really need the work.

    But I suspect this is the minority opinion.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I, for one GP, am 100% with you on this one. Going yard just to say we can is fucking moronic.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I seemed to care more this morning when I had a pile of work in front of me. Now it's the evening and after a beer I really don't give a fuck anymore. It's preseason.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm certainly no authority, but I have never heard of sitting your starters for game 3.

    My understanding was it was pretty universally used as the only significant dress rehearsal game for your starters... leaving the other games to evaluate backups.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    I think a lot of concern for Jay may be a bit of fan PTSD from watching him get tossed around like a rag doll last time he was in the Meadowlands. While I don't believe the line is markedly better, I think the coaches understand they need to go in with a run first game plan, mixing in some play action and screens like some of you guys mentioned. When they DO get stuck in 3rd and longs, I fully expect Tice to keep at least 8 or 9 guys in to help block. Whether they can actually do their jobs remains to be seen.

    My biggest gripe with the preseason is the fact these games don't count for anything other than evaluations and maybe confidence building. You beat the world champs? Great you're still 0-0. Cutty threw 4 TDs? Great he's still tied with Sanchez at 0. While it's nice to get into a rhythm, you don't want to fall into a false sense of security with preseason success. If anything, I'd want the players ready to go game one of the regular season with a big old chip on their shoulder, frustrated with watching their backups fight while they watch from the sidelines.

    It's ultimately the risk reward for me. Is the risk of losing a guy like Cutler or Peppers before the season starts worth whatever you'd gain by having them practice. I know it's a ridiculous comparison, but would soldiers preparing for a war practice by shooting live rounds at each other? I doubt it. The cynic in me also wonders why we need 4 of these games, seems like good bu$iness for the owners and they don't want to let it go.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Man, I'd rather see Cutty swagger up and down the field showing off in PS than see the pitiful 'QB battle' up there in NJ. He who stinks less shall have the ball bounce of Santonio's helmet week in week out. I wouldn't be surprised if Ryan goes QB committee, alternate weeks, shit like that.

  • "Be not deceived with the first appearance of things, for show is not substance."

  • In reply to Shady:

    Believe me, I understand the PTSD aspect of it. But the priority obviously is player preparation and also coach preparation, not fan psyche. You have to get your team ready, and can't throw that all down the toilet just because of remote risks. And you have to believe they will manage the risk... I'm positive they are not going to be stupid about it -- they saw and remember what happened 2 years ago too. You think Lovie or Tice wants to see Cutler in a daze? If things get out of control, they will pull the plug for sure. Especially Tice -- just listen to the man speak. He takes Jay's health very seriously, and he knows how important -- no, how critical he is to his success as a first-year OC.

    The soldier analogy is way off. The whole point of war games is killing, so of course practice is simulated. But would a pro table tennis player practice before a tournament against a wall? No, he uses live practice games. Now obviously it's not a contact sport, so the injury risks are minimal. But do NHL starters sit out exhibition games? Do NASCAR drivers practice only in simulators before races? Do boxers spar only with dummies in preparation for a multimillion dollar title bout? No, they all do what they need to do to be ready to perform at the top of their game come show time... or they better be ready to go home.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    It's obvious the Bears couldn't care less about appeasing fans, I was trying to explain why some fans are seemingly overly concerned with Cutler's health tomorrow, I was not using that as a reason as to why they shouldn't play Jay tomorrow.

    Regarding the analogies, football is obviously not war and clearly not ping pong. Boxing would probably be the best sport to compare and honestly boxing was a bit before my time. Maybe Al or another seasoned vet can enlighten us on the preparation for such a violent sport. I always though fighters spar with padded helemts against scrubs and don't worry about taking a haymakers. Like I said, at the end of the day it's about risk reward and I dont believe whatever preparation you would gain from starting Cutler just isn't worth the risk. Particuarly with this O line. Does the O line really need Jay in there to practice anyway? Seems like Campbell could use the most work with the 1s.

    I believe Jay will play into the 3rd qtr before we see Campbell, and things will likely be OK, but that's just how I feel about these games that count for absolutely nothing.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    Michael, once doctors used to believe in bloodletting and the earth was thought to be flat. Ask Belichek what he thinks about the dress rehearsal.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Come on man, you're seriously equating playing starters in the preseason with bloodletting and flat earth theory? I get your point that norms and conventional wisdom on performance change over time, but this is just a bit straw-manny don't you think?

    If there is one coach in the league, and one veteran QB or offense, that can afford to take it easy in his 12th+ season then obviously it is Belichick and Brady and Co. How does that have anything to do with Mike Tice, a first-time OC, using a hybrid scheme that has never been constructed or tested before, with a coaching staff whose 2 key members have never worked together before, with a group of personnel that is essentially entirely of a different physical makeup, with 2 new key players in the WR position group, a passing offense that is 100% new to all but 2 starters, and a QB with a surgically repaired throwing wrist that hasn't seen more than 2 quarters of live action in over 9 months...? (Sorry to be snide here for a moment, but...) Oh yeah, that definitely sounds like a group that should be taking its cues from Belichick and Brady in their 12th year together...

  • In reply to Michael L:

    unfortunately you couldn't see the smile on my face when I typed it.

    If Cutler plays in the 3rd preseason game and lights it up and we win that is great.

    If Cutler plays in the 3rd preseason game and gets his shoulder separated or knee twisted up by several guys who brought a shitty team to the Superbowl simply by being some of the most feared pass rushers in the game???? that would fucking suck.

    I am willing to err on the side of caution.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    I'd rather have my guys work on concepts and cohesion in an environment where CUTLER is not touched. Practice.

    In practice you can run the plays without Justin Tuck thinking exactly what I think. If I put down Cutler the Bears are most likely out of the playoff race which makes it easier for the Giants.

    I want very badly for the Giants to play Manning and I want Peppers to put him out for significant time. They are thinking the same thing. If you think they are not you are naive.

    I love what you bring to the blog and appreciate your input but having played the game most of my life I just wanted to be honest about how we feel when we are out there.

    Football players play to win the game and the easiest way to win is to put your opponents best players on the bench.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    No probs there, but why not run Cutty out for a couple series when the Giants backups come out?

  • So, a guy I work with has a "high and tight" haircut, akin to Johnny Unitas.

    In my google image search of JU to show him, I found an eerie picture of Johnny giving the classic Jay Cutler "pouty face".

    Sadly, I can't find the picture anywhere else, and the website it links to shows a dead link. So, I have to link to the actual google search.

    Look in row 2, or picture #17. The shit is crazy. Evidence that Jay is on his way to Canton... or maybe his son Camden will get to Canton, via Scranton or Manhattan.

    Jay Cutler = Johnny Unitas

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Cutler to Canton
    If he uses his macrodantin
    better than montanan
    eatin his bannan
    raise more championship flags than Kobi Annan
    get his face on that yogurt from dannon

  • In reply to gpldan:

    i pictured a KRS 1 type Reggae vibe to that one.

  • I really like our new star rookie #17 Alshon Jeffrey! This man is going to be a superstar... I guarantee you. HAHA.

    I am also very concerned about injuries. :( Craig Steltz will need to stand tall on the field with high confidence and concentration.

  • MB, so are you coming to Chicago in Sept or not? Not sure if you are still coming but not making the game, or if the whole trip is off.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Hey Murph... the Sept 9th trip is off (Damn it!)... but we are going to have to visit, so I will come before the big Dec 16th trip.

    Our guy there is also a big Bears fan and he's suggested we visit again for the first Monday night home game. And that's at the end of Oct, against... the lesbian!!!

    We'll see if it happens Murph.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Wife is in NY that Sept week. You coulda had a tour guide most of the week.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    damn it murph. next time.

  • I just met a new customer and his wife for the first time today to discuss renovating their property. Until now, I've just been doing basic maintenance this year until they moved back from New Zealand after a few years. He was doing his surgery residency there. I've had good relations with them over the phone, but I sealed the deal today. I showed up with a Bears hat on, in enemy territory surrounded by Packers and Vikings fans. Turns out they're from McHenry, and 90% of the conversation from then on was about the Bears. Even though they have the Sunday Ticket, I pointed out a Bears bar that is always packed to the gills for games, so I'll probably see them there a few times. I think my Bears hat and Rico Suave charm might have sold a lot of work. Very cool people.
    I used to do a lot of work for this retired brain surgeon who was a fanatical Bears fan. You never would have thought it if you met the guy. He had awesome season tickets at about the 40. I'd seen him wear Ozzy, Bart Simpson ("Get Bent", "Eat Me"), and other funny t-shirts. He passed away, unfortunately, right after a Bears game on his way home.
    The Bears should play their starters for the first half, within reason.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Very cool Cor. Gotta give ya credit for wearing the colors in enemy territory. It can't be easy living where you do. Love the area, Fudgie and BiQueen fans, not so much.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Good for you Fifth. Bear Down ... on the cash moolah.

  • Hey Doc & MB, I too had been looking all over the DirecTV site for info on the streaming option(s). Just like you and others, nada. I ditched DirecTV almost immediately after the Bears season ended last year and went over to Dish. DTV just pissed me off one too many times.

    Anyway, after finding squat on the DTV site (and seeing Doc's posted question last night) I started an intense search of the InterWeb for clues on where the streaming options are, PS3 or otherwise. Everyone stubborn to stay on the phone with DTV long enough to get an answer was told either "I dunno", or more often "first week of September". So I'm banking on the first week of September to be the time it becomes available. It's a no-brainer that they will offer it again this year. It's a huge revenue stream they will not pass up. It's much cheaper to provide Internet based bandwidth capacity that satellite capacity.

    MB, as far as why they would wait until the last minute to offer it online. Think about it. They are in the business of selling folks TV service year round. Many Bears fans only use DirecTV because they have the lock on NFL Sunday Ticket. It's the only way to get it. But, lots of folks either don't have a PS3 or other streaming capable device, or they don't know what the heck streaming is. Those folks pay the 300 bucks a year for Sunday Ticket *and* pay DTVs overpriced TV fees the rest of the year. For those of us who can, or know how to get the streamed version, we pay the Sunday Ticket price and no more. DTV wants to wait as long as possible to get as many folks to sign up for the whole year-round satellite package. Then, when only the streaming techie holdouts are left, they open that up.

    DirecTV will offer the streaming-only option again this year, count on it. I am.

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    In reply to MikeV in OR:

    I love the Sunday Ticket. iPad, iPhone, or my 70inch plasma I've got Bears, and all the other games. It's awesome.

  • Wow..this is a great idea.

    http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/ynoq1/i_immediately_regret_not_doing_this_as_a_child/

  • Music spam.

    Gov't Mule is playing Halloween night at Riviera in Chicago. It's a shady theater, but the show should be kick ass. I think I'll make the 5-5.5 hour drive down. They always do a tribute set on Halloween. The last five years have been Zep (Houses of the Holy), Floyd, Stones, Who, and James Brown. I'm guessing Beattles, Jimi, or Chicago Blues this year. The band is so versatile, it's anyone's guess. Last time I seen Mule at this theater, they jammed out this song with Joe Bonnamassa:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnLs7tpsnw0

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    The Riv is shady?

    I might make that show. Thanks for the heads up.

  • White Sox 2, Yankees 1. Can you say "SWEEP" boys and girls? life is GOOOD.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Al, if the ball is not pointed on both ends, I don't enjoy the games.

    Sox, huh? Southsider?

  • In reply to MikeV in OR:

    Born within earshot of the exlpoding scoreboard at old Comiskey.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I killed a lot of brain cells in the center field bleachers back in 1977. Veeck had installed a shower in the aisle along the big wall (which was the actual outfield wall those days) that was perfect for cooling off/sobering up.

    Veeck let fans bring stuff in, so for the doubleheaders, a couple of buddies and I hit the bleachers with 1.75 liters of rum, 2 liters of Coke and ice liberated from some hotel on the way downtown in one of those Coleman coolers with the push button spigot at the bottom.

    $2 got one into the park for the day back then.

    The 1977 "South Side Hit Men" hit .278 with 192 HR, but the pitching staff had a 4.25 ERA. And defense, well... You never knew what was going to happen out there.

    One of those buddies died in a work accident close to 30 years ago now, and the other I lost touch with long ago.

    But what a summer - thanks for stirring the memories, Al.

    http://whitesoxinteractive.com/History&Glory/1977.htm

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Another reason I like you Albert!!!

  • I think it is hard to beat that line of Giants. Hopefully I'm wrong and the Bears achieve succeed this season .. the whole team do its job!

  • In reply to Priceperhead:

    I like the website! Thanks for sharing the note and comments from all.
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  • In reply to Priceperhead:

    It'll be a good litmus test for our line. JPP isn't playing, but they'll stil have a good DL out there for us. We'll know more about how they're shaping up thanks to the Giants.

  • Irish, you know you're desperate for the season to start when you are willing to talk to an internet marketing troll. wtf are you doing?

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Marketing troll bot: I enjoy your site. The feeds back are excellent. I excited amming for season started.

    Irish: I know Marketing troll bot, I'm excited as well. It really feels like this is our year with the additions at WR and running back in addition to having a capable backup QB in case Cutler gets hurt.

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    Irish: good talk man, go Bears!!!!!

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Fucking Hilarious. Actually had my wife lol-ing on that one.

  • I just LOLd again. That was twice for the same comment. Three times, now. Fuck that was good.

  • In reply to Waffle:

    hahahahahahahaha

  • In reply to Waffle:

    Dude, I just LOLd. For real. I'll talk to anybody. Except a Packer. Internet troll-bot ... cool ..... Packer ... no.

  • Just my opinion but, I found the Weatherford/Giants video disturbing.

    And Mr. Goodell CANNOT be pleased.

    I love the jerk in the background screaming "Stand-up for yourself".

    Right. JPP has 6 inches and 60 pounds on the guy, not to mention some eager assistants.

    Disgusting.

    What if the victim decides to "Stand-Up for Himself" by clocking Mr. Pierre-Pall with a barbell and splitting his (empty) head wide open as he so richly deserved?

    Frankly , I find these "hazing ruiituals" pathetic on many levels.

    Wanna make the guy stand up and sing his school fight song at the training table? Fine.

    Carry the vets' equipment? No problem.

    Assault and Battery? Take a hike!

  • MB,

    You went from Lottery Winner, to Object of my Idolatry, to Benedict Arnold, and then back around to faithful Soldier-Virgin Compadre all in about 25 seconds.

    Quite a stir in emotion in me, you have caused.

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