More Audibles From the Long Snapper: What Does it All Mean?

More Audibles From the Long Snapper: What Does it All Mean?

I imagine it is Twitter's fault and it probably is. But at no point in the history of professional football have OTAs received the attention they are currently receiving across the landscape of the NFL. I heard the legendary athlete Tim Hasselbeck predict the Falcons to top the Saints in the NFC South this year because the Saints would lack for Drew Brees' OTAs. You know what it all is? Bullshit and nonsense.


I'm not going to get into the particulars of the moves but you can read Dan Pompei's expansive breakdown of it all by clicking here. Here are the two most important changes:

The most significant moves were the promotions of longtime area scouts Marty Barrett and Chris Ballard.  Barrett will serve as the director of college scouting and Ballard will be the director of pro scouting.

The Bears had been operating without pro and college scouting directors for more than two years.

The highly respected Barrett has been an area scout in the West region for the Bears for 15 years, having worked for Mark Hatley, Jerry Angelo and now Emery. He previously was with the Saints.

Ballard long has been considered a rising star in the Bears organization.  As the Bears' Southwest area scout, he has had considerable sway in the draft process for a number of years.  He has been with the organization since 2000.

I have nothing to add other than to say this continues to the process of Phil Emery rebuilding the entirety of the Chicago Bears organization in his own image.


Here are the quotes from Vaughn McClure's piece in the Trib:

"I think every now and then, I'm going to do kickoffs," said Hester, who still is expected to handle most punt returns. "It will depend on how the game is going.

"If I'm involved in the offense the whole first and second quarters, maybe I'll tell them to cut back on the kickoff returns. If I'm not getting that many touches on offense, of course I'm going to want to get some more touches on kickoff returns. That's how I see things panning out."

I can't say I disagree with this, to be honest. If Hester somehow becomes a focal point of the Tice offense then the Bears should absolutely move him off the kickoff return game. If he's not then he should return every single kick possible. With the receiving corps looking deeper and more talented than at any point in Bears history, I'm almost rooting for Hester to be returning kicks.


Henry Melton is in the last year of his rookie deal and has been essentially retweeting any individual who mentions him receiving a contract extension. Really? Melton has had one, one, ONE year that can be ranked above decent. He was good last year but why not leave your contract alone until you've proven you can be a productive NFL player for two consecutive seasons? If only one good year of football is required for a contract extension then why don't NFL teams only reward players with one-year deals? One-for-one. That seems fair to me. (In case you can't sense it I am getting royally pissed off about this contract shit. The richest sports league in the universe acts like they're a third-tier soccer program operating out of the Pacific Northwest. It's pathetic.)

OTAs end this week and then it's the long wait until camp opening on July 26th. Are any of you planning to be in Bourbonnais? I'll be soliciting fan photographs and videos to post here. Drop me an email:

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  • I'm tired of all of it. I wish there was some way to turn off the Bears part of my brain until September.

  • In reply to Jokey:

    Sorry - pre-coffee post. I just want the season to start already. And I get pissed whenever kickoffs from the 35 come up. What a stupid rule.

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    I'm with you Jokey. I think OTA's are an extra big deal this year for two reasons. 1) We didn't have them last year and 2) the Bears have had an off season like no other.

  • Jeff, I don't get anger over contract BS. Who cares? It's all just posturing trying to leverage a deal. BFD.

    I think OTA's have some value but I sure wouldn't get too excited over them. Same with training camp. Exhibition games are interesting in the 1st and sometimes 2nd quarter, other than that, not so much.

    Glad to see Emery spending some dough on more scouts. Money well spent. The more he does, the more you realize how inept JA was.

    Really looking forward to the new season!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    While I'm inclined to share your opinion on this, Canada, I'll be more comfortable saying the money is well spent when it generates positive results. That old ROI thing :-)

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I agree with ya Dave but I'm giving Emery the benefit of the doubt until he he shows a tendency to be a dumbass. So far, so good.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    +1, Canada.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Dear CanadaBear,

    I resemble that remark! you $#@!$#@!$#!$##!@$%$!@%$!!!!


  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Sorry Glitchy. I used to stick up for you until the last 4-5 years. At some point there was just no reason. One too many shitty 1st round picks, injured picks, 2 rounds too early picks, no idea on the WR position and ignoring the OL for about 6 years. Other than that, great job!


    and is that henry's mom?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    uuuugghgghhghgghgh......MB........MY EYE'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    you bastard!!!!!! lol

  • Twitter - the latest in a sequence of technological "improvements" that allow people to indulge their over-developed egos in a more immediate and public manner.

    It is a potent tool for demonstrating narcissism.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    100% Dave.

    I don't use twitter or FB or anything else... other than this blog of course...

    ..where I indulge my over-developed ego in a more immediate and public manner, using this potent tool for demonstrating my narcissism.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Me too! :-)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Twitter, uh no. I'm on FB because my wife hounded me (totally PW'ed). In a week's time I might spend 30 minutes on there (probably less). I'm constantly amazed by people that feel like their lives aren't being lived unless everyone knows every facet of their day-to-day life.

    Although, I must admit I'm friends with some burlesque dancers in Vancouver due to my friendship with the band that used to have the dancers perform while they wailed away. The burlesque dancers post's can be quite interesting, + lots of pics. Gotta love that!

    If someone is constantly posting mundane BS about their lives, there's always the hide feature.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Fuck Facebook in the face. It's like virtual high school. Who needs it. Ditto Twitter. If I have to slow my gait in the halls one more time because some narcissistic mother fucker wants to see if there are any replies to their twitter twatter or the facebook status I might seriously go postal. Shit's so lame, I wrote song about it. It's called, Status: Bad Ass. Don't know how to post mp3's of it, which I'm sure I have somewhere, but here are the lyrics.

    Status: Bad Ass

    Have you logged on yet
    Have you gone to check
    On your facebook friends
    Have you found the words
    To define your day
    Have you set your status
    Are you on display

    Don’t care about status
    Or cultural style
    We rock universal
    We fit no profile
    Don’t care to pigeoned
    By claiming our status
    But since you persist
    We’ll serve it up gratis

    Our Status: Bad Ass.

    Have you logged on yet
    Have you hedged your bet
    For the life you fake
    Do you know the stakes
    With your eyes ajar
    are you not awake
    are you not opaque

    Don’t care about status
    Or cultural style
    We rock universal
    We fit no profile
    Don’t care to pigeoned
    By claiming our status
    But since you persist
    We’ll serve it up gratis

    Our Status: Bad Ass

  • Me likey.

  • that's a good shot
    of strong medecine
    'preciate that immensely

  • Don't forget this stuff !
    June 6th 1944

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:


  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Yeah, I read a pretty gut wrenching article about a WWII medic earlier Murph. Back then, the top brass really didn't care about attrition like they do today due to the tactics and armament of that era.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Good call Murph. One of my heroes, Grandpa Chester, fought at Utah Beach. He went in with the second wave on D-Day. On the seventh day, after two straight days of fighting in the hedgerows without sleep, he took a large amount of shrapnel to the chest from an artillery shell. The only thing that saved his life was all the gear he was wearing. Due to sniper fire and chaos, a medic was unable to help him. Eventually he was able to crawl his way back to a first aid station after several hours. After a six month recuperation, he was sent back as an MP in Patton's 3rd Army. He never talked about the war, aside from funny stories, until the late 80's.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    these aren't that impactful from a content standpoint, but to see it in color was a little mindblowing. I don't think I've ever seen a WWII pic in color.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Those were some great pics MB.....I dont think Ive seen color WWII wither.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You guys ever see WW2 in HD on History channel? It's all in color, albeit not the greatest. It's pretty awesome stuff.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Agreed. Watching it lately. The Viet Nam War was always the more fascinating one for me. Not sure why. But Viet Nam in HD was really good too.

  • My Dad was in the 1st Calvary in Vietnam from January of 68 (the start of the Tet Offensive) until June or July of 69, mainly along the DMZ. He took a lot of pictures made into slides. I used to sneak into the basement, put on his old uniform, and project the slides against the basement wall. It was heavy shit for a little kid to see. He destroyed all the pictures one night, except one. The burden of remembering all those people was too much to bear.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    fifth, it's sad to see what war can do to relatives. My father was a helicopter pilot in Vietnam. Was there from 68-70. He never recovered, basically drank himself to death. He had moments of hapiness but they were few and far between. He rarely talked about it, but he got loaded one day and had some flash backs. He watched a bunch of his friends die getting off the chopper. I'm thinking this happened more than once. I was over in Iraq/Kuwait but never really saw anything like these guys that were in WWII, Korea and Vietnam, wars are fought differently now. Nowhere near the casualties, but war is still brutal.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    JAB, I'm sorry to hear about your Dad. I don't think it was that uncommon for people involved in the shit to have problems. My sister is a psychiatrist at the VA in Milwaukee, and she deals with a lot of Vietnam Vets with substance abuse problems, homelessness, etc. It took my Dad 35-40 years to come to some sort of peace with his ordeal. He also lost his two best friends from his unit. He has never made a close friend to this day, I think by choice. He only goes deep in one on one situations, like fishing. Some of the stuff I've heard is horrifying. Inhuman. I can see how it can break a man.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    My uncle was a helicoper pilot in Nam also. Wonder if they knew eachother. He kept piloting and is about to retire. He's currently the leader, among active pilots, in # of hours flown. Unfortunately, I don't see him but once every 10 years or so, so I don't know him too well.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    agreed murph.

  • hey johnny, how'd you do today maings?

    Yesterday the world was coming to an end and we were all about to plunge off a cliff... today... almost a 3% rise.

    Fucken A i wish I had a ticket to that fucking sham of a dance. Makin money, makin money, makin money out o thin air baby!

  • While reading that quote of Hester's, the thing that jumped out to me was that he prefers to play offense than return kickoffs. Goes back to my argument that the more he plays on offense, the less of an impact he'll have on returns. If I had my choice, I'd design a couple of packages for him for certain in game situations and have him return every stinking kick whenever possible.

  • Another reason to wait until you get married boys. First flesh eating zombie's, then swarms of killer spiders and now the clap that can't be cured.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    It seems due to a poor showing it Wisconsin last night, MSNBC decided to run that article. Classic. Hee hee.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    That recall was a disgrace Trac. All because gov't employees and teachers will now only be making 22% more including wages and benefits than their private sector peers with similar education. Property taxes went up 43% in Wisconsin since 1998, and this year they actually dropped a little.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Yup... but their come-uppance will come when the money runs out and most of the government gets sent to the private sector.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    By the way, I meant people, not functions. Hopefully, many of the latter will simply go away.

  • I've been trying to think up a formula that would describe the trade-off between the two roles. Question 1: if he returns all the kickoffs in the season, how many TDs does he get that way, and what contribution does he make in terms field position that lead to more kickoffs, over and above what, say, Eric Weems can do? And then question 2: how many catches/yards/TDs would he need as a receiver to be more effective than as a kick returner? Maybe I'll write to Bill Barnwell. He groks the win percentage.

  • I think you have to choose which way to use Hester B. As simple as that. I think you run into trouble when you try to split hairs. The guy was born to return kicks.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Totally agree with you. I'm just wondering WTF the coaches are thinking -- between Marshall, Bennett, Jeffrey, Forte, and the TEs they seem to have a pretty solid receiving corps. What's the case for including Hester at all?

  • Yards after catch.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I'd rather the Bears started each possession near mid field than Hester having 1 or 2 / 40yd catches every 2 or 3 games.

  • (This was supposed to be in reply to Trac, re: Hester. Gnooooomes!)

  • blogfader ? so the pic... Are they in the Men's Room? and did she reach under the stall with her leg and they had a special moment? Is that what I am to get from the visual:

  • Is it to early to be concerned about Lach?

  • what a contradictory of Bullshit...

    "After producing a breakout season in 2011, Chicago Bears defensive tackle Henry Melton enters the final year of his original rookie contract, but refuses to become vocal in his desire for a new deal.".....

    If he didn't want to be vocal..then who the FUCK brought it up?... Squidgy the Space Dog?

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    The press leak is a wonderful thing.

  • and as for the political .02

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    I agree lobo. It's always great to see the good guys win. Hee hee.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Yes. I'm so glad the corporate interests and the entrenched politicians won here in CA!!

  • You misunderstood me Sac. Politically wise, the good guys are the people. Screw the politicians.

  • By the way, who voted in the politicians in Cali? Aren't they pretty much all dems? Don't get me wrong, I love your State but jimminy creepers your state has gone down the crapper. Voting Jerry Brown back into office didn't help you guys any, that's for sure. How come I knew this by you guys didn't?


    I pray to Trac's god that they hang that evil grinning piece of shit. Fucking disgrace of a human predator. Shoot him in the knees, then genitals, then shoulders, etc... on PPV. I would pay. Die you worthless fucking monster.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jesus says that if anyone harms a child and cause's a little one to lose their faith in Him, it would be better for them if they had not been born.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    agree with that. I'm down with all the hell stuff after he's dead, but he should suffer while he's here too.

    See trac, I believe in some of the tenants of the bible... the OLD testament baby.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    My wife as well MB. You don't want to be near her when the fire and brimstone starts falling.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    oh yes. trust me trac, I have plenty of that over here.

  • this one's for canada...!PORTFOLIO/c1k1r

    middle, middle shot.... YIKES!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    She's definitely running modified but ...

    Thanks MB!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    even better

  • here's something funny for all the soccer fans here:

  • little kids are the best man:

    Grown ups suck.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Maybe that's why none of my students don't act like them (grown ups).

  • This HAS to be shady's dog:

  • Deeeeum, pretty violent and realistic from the same guys that brought us Uncharted.

    This is MUCH more my style:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    here's one for you GP:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Thanks. I like the C63 AMG Black in this video:

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I've also watched the last 14 seasons of Top Gear. I think I know James May pretty well. And I can tell you, this car pack is BS. Some cars May wouldn't be caught dead adding:

    A. Any Chrysler SRT8 product.
    B. A Jeep Rubicon
    C. Anything made by a State-side tuner like Hennessey.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Gp you like Top Gear? I kid you not, I never brought up Top Gear because I figured most of you would say it is a UnAmerican show.

    Which episode is your favorite?

  • just saw a hilarious one where they had to make caravans (campers) out of their cars. In the end, hammond pushes clarkson's caravan off a huge cliff. funny.

  • Space shuttle they made out of that Yugo-looking car.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The idea of James May driving a Jeep Wrangler is hilarious.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I have always wanted Mr. May and the boys to stop by Hennessey's shop for a day. I don't think they would dislike them all that much. Clarkson at the wheel of a 1000hp Camaro would be a great thing to see.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Holy shit.

  • to what/which post bearssssssssssssssss?

  • Man do I have a touch choice to make down the road. I rescued a puppy a month ago and she has esophagitus. The vet told me that when she gets older she won't be able to swallow enough food to sustain her. Either she'll starve to death or I'll have to put her down. Not up for either.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    In my eye, the latter course is more humane, Trac. Scant consolation I realize.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Trac, you know what you have to do. You can't let a puppy starve to death. I wish there was a way to shoot the dog with a tranqualizer when it wasn't looking to knock it out so that it wouldn't be scared when they brought it in the room to be euthanized.

  • I can't think about it for to long. I had an old girl I had to put down about a year ago. The first time I took her to the vet to do it, she looked up at me with those eyes of hers and I saw life and trust staring right back at me. I couldn't do it. I had to take her home and wait for another day. Tis a horrible thing to do, part of being a man I guess.

  • Ya have to go in with the dog and hold him so he won't be scared. When you have a good dog and he is by your side all the time, and you know he would give his life for you, you cant leave him at that time. As hard as it is you have to be there and hold him so the last thing he knows is your love. Dammit I'm gettin misty eyed typin this, men and their dogs, nothin like it!

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Murph is right.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Worst day of my life.

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    In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    I've had to do this twice and it is very difficult. But it is how you pay your dog back. The 2nd dog, I prayed he would die in his sleep, because I knew what it would be like. Tough choices.

    Can we talk about the Bears.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    At least you know what you are going to do.

    I hate the people who can't afford the surgery or medicine for the dogs and just leave them to die.

    Be responsible.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    sorry trac. that sucks.

    I don't want to steer you in the wrong direction, but my two English Bull Terriers got into ALLLLL kinds of trouble when they were young and we spent more time at the vet than the vets themselves.

    One thing I realized.... they don't know sheite. They guess most of the fucking time. I don't know, might be worth seeing if the little guy can pull it out... but that means more time to get attached too. Brutal call maings. good luck.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I know about the vets MB. The xray told the story though. The hard part about this is it's a cute little puppy and bonding has already taken place. It's gonna be tough cause I'm gonna have to make the call. I'm gonna have to judge when the quality of life is not there. That's gonna be very difficult.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Trac, brutal story. I love dogs and kids keep begging to get one but this story is the reason I don't think I ever will. You have them and they become like family and then bam, a short time later you're stuck making these choices. You really have to find out how long the dog has until it will start suffering. To put it down early would be more for you and your pain that you will have to endure and not the dog. I don't envy you my man.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    Tis better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all.

  • That's my boy!

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I actually meant to say atta boy Doc. I remembered the time I called you my son.

  • Applies to more than dogs.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    Jab, Trac, pets teach our kids the valuable lesson that life is transient. Seize the day.

  • Penn State is not just the most corrupt school in the Big Ten, it's vying with USC and Miami as the most corrupt University in the nation.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    This will be their opportunity to come clean GP. That, ahem, guy is going down. Ain't no way you'll see an O.J. repeat.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    this is going to be a shit show. Thank god the feds will be right there to fucking throw down WHEN hijinks begin in the jury room and we get a hung jury.

  • Milty..the New Fridge..WTF???

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    They talked about doing that a long time ago and it didn't amount to anything.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    I don't like it. Fridge was not a starter at the time. Melton is way too important on D. Can you imagine him getting hurt on O? That would really suck.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    They can get hurt on any play. I know it exposes him to more hits but I'm guessing he'll be dishing out the punishment. Gotta let these guys have a little fun.

    Really sorry to hear about your puppy. I've got a 12 year old Havanese and I know it will be a sad, sad day when we part. Hang in there, my man.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Not to mention how thin this team is on d-tackle. It remains to be seen if Melton will be as effective as he was last year but why even risk losing a d-tackle in a spot where you can just throw Bush. Bush is built like a fullback anyways. He's our short yardage/goal line solution, not our starting d-tackle.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    agreed. no melton on offense. although it was entertaining watching him return that kickoff in 2009. that gunner must have been shitting his pants as he came in for the tackle.


    Watch the video on the receivers update 6/5/2012:

    Cutty slinging the fucking rock. I'VE GOT A RAGING BEARS BONER RIGHT FUCKING NOW.

  • "Our job is to go out and score, score, score - every time we get the ball."

  • Nice. McCown (? #2) looks pretty good too. Feel so much better with him at backup given the OL questions. Even if Cutler isn't injured, I can see him sitting for a game or two due to concussion questions.

  • Fucking mccown!?!?!?! Dude, jason badassmotherfucker Campbell is out #2 dude.


  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • Oh man... That video of the receivers and Cutler is what I needed to start my day.

    Seeing #2 out there throwing it also gave me a great feeling. Made me wonder, if the Bears have big leads this year, do they go to the backup sooner, than they might have in the past?

  • What do you think?

  • you know what i think.

    I think that Cutty's flesh cannon of sweet sweet death will impregnate opposing defenses with dread whilst creating fear boners amongst defensive coordinators of the great satans that are GB, MN and Detroit.

    I'm calling 4650 yards / 29 TD's and 12 Int's for Cutty.
    1100 yards for Marshall
    800 yards for Bennett
    650 yards for Hester
    600 yards for Jeffrey
    450 total for Weems and Thomas combined
    450 yards for Davis
    600 yards for Forte and a couple for Bush

  • That's pretty bold Johnny. I likery but do you really think Cutty will be able to do that every game?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:


  • It depends what perspective you look at this from Artoo. Not trying to rain on your parade but how can you not include Rodgers there? Also, AP better not be the MVP cause he's coming off a major rehab(still rehabbing I think) and he's never going to be the same runner he was before the injury. Interestingly, I think Joe Webb could really be a surprise if he gets a shot to start early in the season.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Trac, I get your argument but when a backup can come in and throw 6 td's.. damn.. you got some really good coaching or great WR's.

    Without AP, who do the Vikings have that scare any team?

  • Time to wrestle Artoo.

    I tell you what, if you play fantasy football on Da Bears League this year, I'll trade you Jordy for Rogers. If Nelson goes down for the season, not an eye will blink(you know I'm right). If Rogers goes down, forget about it, Fudger season is over. Don't lock yourself into a corner as a journalist by feeling like you have to come up with a unique perspective, focus on being objective. If I'm the Vikings coach, there's no way I'm going to put together an offensive scheme that has to have success hinge on AP. There's just no way any coach is going to do that given his injury last year. Try to think your arguments through before you write them. Leading scientists try to prove their theories wrong in every conceivable aspect of them before attaching their names to their work. You should try to question your writing and ideas more than any reader will before you publish in order to insure your product reflects the professionalism of the industry. Aim high my laddy.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    If you have a great running back like Ap, you will build around him. AP is the reason the box gets stacked up and creates one on one situations which will help whoever is at QB. Thus, the Vikings can't afford for him to be injured or hurt this season.

    To each his own but I watched Matt Flynn play for LSU. He was no where near as good as Rodgers but he put up 6 touchdowns in a game. That being said, I don't see how if Aaron Rodgers goes down that they can't still get by. Put just about any Qb in Green Bay and watch them succeed. I totally get your point about Rodgers. I can see Aaron suffering without Jordy. They don't have a run game and Jennings is not the kind of guy to just go up and get it.

  • I guess I could see the Vikes testing their ox Artoo. I do realize they're going to try and get their money's worth but I have a very strong gut feeling that AP is going to re-injure himself early on or be ineffective. We'll see.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I hope not but you are right. If they do lost AP, damn... talk about starting back at square one.

  • A good coach should be prepared for that Artoo, given his injury late last year.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Unless, of course, those theories are about global warming.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Read it again Dave. Key phrase, "leading scientists".

  • I think you're better than this!

    I love you, but that was a slideshow away from bleacher report.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    So it will get a lot of retarded views? Sweet!

    I will try to improve for you Willie.

  • Honestly wasn't impressed. I think your best work was the article your wrote about Mike Wallace. That article had some depth, and made for an intriguing discussion. Most of what you're writing covers the intriguing discussion (or at least tries to), but doesn't have much depth in the writing.

    Obviously, you've got two articles to write based on the conversations on the board. (1) Is Rogers legit, or just a product of the recievers and system? (2) Should the Vikings build around AP or around their young QB and O-line?

    You could probably add to that, based on your analysis: (1) Packers D in 2012: what went wrong and who's going to fix it? (2) Bears D of the future, who will lead when Urlacher retires? (3) What kind of a contract do you offer Lach to keep him from retiring in another city? (4) Is Stafford legit or is it just Johnson making him look good?

    But what I'd really like to see written (though the blog has discussed this quite a bit) is a discussion of what could happen with Bears recievers in 2012. Where does Jeffery fit? What will Bennett's production look like? Why all the Hester package talk? Will Kellen Davis justify his 1 year deal?

    You've got a lot more knowledge than your writing demonstrates. Don't forget the depth once you pick the catchy headline.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Thanks New Bear, will do. I actually never thought of branching out the articles after that but will look into it.

  • Its not even branching really. Think of it like this... the article you wrote should never have been published. That article is for your notes about which players in the NFC North you want to focus on for the next 5. Then you take pieces of that article (not published) and turn them into the starting paragraph of each of these 5 other articles on more specific topics. All the same words get used, just in a different format.

    Another thing to keep in mind. The people that just want the same basic info will go to espn or or whatever. If they're going to a smaller football website, its probably because your article is the 3rd or 4th they're reading about their favorite team. So you should expect your readers to be a bit more informed and give them a bit more depth (there's that word again).

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    NB, I would never have tried to juxtapose Artoo's article with such a brilliant post, that just wouldn't have been fair. You Sir are a genius.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Thanks for the love man. Don't forget I'm a lawyer, I get paid (pretty well) to write. I think GPL gets the prize for writing stuff that evokes a specific emotional response, but the analysis stuff is my bread and butter. And analytical writing can be learned - which is why I think a motivated and passionate guy like Artoo has a lot of potential.

  • Palamalu still can't believe Tebow stuck one on em.

    Anyone want to give odds on Tebow starting for the Jets by midseason? You know it's gonna be fun to see what shakes out of the tree in NY this year.

  • By the way Jeff, who's the broad? Her biceps are swole.

  • Patrick Trahan ‏@YoungMFGator
    I plan to end mini camp with a strong showing

  • Did anyone else notice that when Chad Johnson changed his name, he lost his game? Too bad he never learned how to study a play book.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I'd say he lost his game the minute he put on that hall of fame jacket. Football gods did not like that.

  • Matt sure isn't talking like he wants to remain a Bear. Maybe he's just venting but I think he's bitter. That's never good because it blinds you to the positive aspects in a relationship. Like it or not, the Bears own your rights this year Matt. Just play the game with the cards you're dealt and make the best of it. This is the lesson of life.

  • Nice back handed compliment by this dweeb. He says Bears are for real but then has them chasing the Lions. Get out of my sight dude, you disgust me.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Yeah, right.

    The Lions struggle to beat the Bears in Detroit, despite that HUGE emotional boost. Then they come to Chicago and get absolutely PANTSED in Soldier Field.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    they need to be chasing a good team defense attorney Al.

    buncha thugs.

  • From the "But I thought you were a GENIUS?" department...

    Remember last season when eveyone (well at least most of those mopes on the 4-Letter) hailed the Patriots for picking up Mssrs. Haynesworth and Ochocinco?

    Albert didn't last the season and Chad played like Ocho-STINKO.

    First they signed Albert...
    Then they signed Chad...
    The Bears Blog knew back then...
    Things would turn out bad....


    Burma Shave

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Nice Al.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I can admit that I honestly felt that Haynesworth would exhibit pride and some passion and become the old Haynesworth under Belichek but I guess if I had 67 million in my checking account some of my bad habits hiding under the surface would reveal themselves.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Thanks Al! I've missed those things

  • One of my favorite plays of all time as a Bear fan(my name sake, hint hint). I am curious to see the ones some of you guys remember the most and why. This is one of my all time favorite Bear plays because I remember rolling on the floor laughing my ass off after seeing the camera zoom in to show how gassed and wide eyed Keith Traylor during his interception return. That was an awesome play to go along with an amazing season. Mike Brown made that years D very special and unique as well. Truly enjoyed myself as a Bear fan that year.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    one thing that will be missed is Johnny Knox speed... holy shit that kid is FAAAAAST!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I saw that. Made everyone else look like they were jogging.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Like me mate.


  • In reply to MB30SD:

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    My favourite play was the Hester return versus the Rams in 06 as it was the first bears game I watched, Hester had already returned a kick for a TD, the camera had cut to either Isaac Bruce or Torry Holt telling his team not to kick it to Hester and then they did. To make it even better, the bears were lined up for an onside recovery and Hester still brought that other kick back for a TD. It'll be on a vid with all his returns.

    Even though it didn't count, the fake punt return last year vs the Packers is a close 2nd.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    That was a great play. Truly a fave.

    One of my all-time favorites was a crazy play involving my favorite Bear. Butkus was blocking for the point and the snap was bad. Everyone is scrambling around and Butkus catches a pass for the extra point (only 1 point in those days). He waves the ball in the opponents face (I think it was the Redskins) and the guy bats the ball into the stands. Laughed my ass off.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Good stuff all... I still really love this one.

  • See the Ref scrambling to get out of the Tractor's way?
    I bet his lfe flashed before his eyes!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    AL!!!!!!!.....tee hee hee.....

    trac...... did you see he wanted to pass back to someone..and saw the Jag's Jersey and said forget that I'm hanging onto rock baby!!!!

  • For those of you who still don't like soccer:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    damn't MB...yeah had to bring the Hotties into



  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Nice pics. Gotta agree with Murph!

  • Nice pictures MB, still hate soccer. If the ladies played nude, I'd watch.....but still not give a shit who won or lost.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the only way it gets better if they have "Topless Thursday Night Football"...

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    I'm all the way in Lobo.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Take a trip to Sturgis some time MB. I would never go there, not my cup of tea, but I've been told a lot of the mama's ride topless at that event. From what I gather, most of em really do look like they used to play football. He he.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    not into bikers or biker chicks (sorry murph). Just not my style maings. Tattoos everywhere just doesn't do it for me.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    If ladies play nude, we all win!

  • Dang, anybody think this yak represents justice? The Zimmerman dude better wear garlic at his trial.

  • this is for Shady's home viewing:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Poor mat.

  • speaking of fucking awesome movies... you guys ever see District9?

    Trac, it's funny for S’Africans.

    Great movie. still waiting for the sequel.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Do you want a hiding man?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I'll give you a clup hey?!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    probably more like Klupp


    Any 'a you guys like Quentin? How about Jamie Foxx? Christoph Fucking Waltz?


  • In reply to MB30SD:


    I hate Jamie Foxx (other than Any Given Sunday), but it still looks good.

    Ving Rhames would have made it incredible.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Shaq would have made it incredible.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    They wanted Will Smith to do it.


    Some changes since we had OTA's. They are not permanent but they do give ideas to where some players might play.

  • Eric Weems in front of Devin Thomas will simply not happen.

  • That could change but I really don't think the fourth wide receiver really matters.. especially if Evan Rodriguez continues to play just about everywhere.

  • "Geno Hayes - If Roach was to go down then Hayes could fill in for this spot also." Wow ringing endorsement of Geno and poor poor writing.

  • Thanks. It's stuff like this from you guys, including NewBear and Trac, that will make me better.

    I shouldn't have put it there but I can't say much about Hayes. He has not done anything..but once's just after OTAs. Pads change everything

  • Artoo, you'll do just fine cause you get it. Some of the best accomplishments in my life came out of a desire to learn from experts with the acknowledgement that I didn't know jack when I started out. Come to think of it, I still don't know jack.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    That's for sure.

    I keed. I keed.

  • Ah Artoo it was just one sentence.. the rest of it was solid and informative.

  • I asked Michael Bush " @michaelbush29 Great so far. How was OTAs? Same ole same ole?"

    He replied back..

    @ErikGrogan yup same ol same ol but got some good work done

  • I asked another question "@michaelbush29 Is this new offense complicated or anything like the raiders offense?"

    He replied back..

    @ErikGrogan this is my 4th offense I've been in so they all about the same.

  • @michaelbush29 @ErikGrogan Who on the team has impressed you the most so far during OTA's?

    @HaitianKid79 the rookie wr draft pick

  • Sorry Michael Bush said that Jeffery has been the most impressive at OTAs so far.

  • Why sorry? That's a great answer.

    Marshall gonna be great, Bennett's gonna be great. But those guys are vets. Its the rookies that you want turning heads in OTAs; those are the guys you want putting forth maximum effort during this otherwise irrelevant part of the off-season.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    When I posted the tweet it labeled it wrong but you figured it out.

  • Here's a decent article on the Beloved. Fairly realistic and balanced.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Oh Brotha! Read in between the lines Canada. I posted that article yesterday. That guy has the Bears chasing the Pussy Cats. Quite frankly, most of these guys write articles making sure they cover their asses instead of being objective. Everyone knows the Bears are going 16-0 this year. Bwaaaaaaah ha ha ha ha!

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Didn't see you posted it yesterday. I think you're reading too much between the lines. I thought it went Fudgies first and then Bears/Lions 2A/2B in no particular order, which seems reasonable to me. Of course, they're covering their asses. Everyone does that these days. I think the Bears will be a wild card for sure and with injury luck, possibly the North winner. With some bad injury luck we're back to 3rd in the division.

  • Anybody else remember this? It aired just before Super Bowl XX. It's a compilation of the 85 Bears season. I was only 5 at the time but my dad recorded it for me and I still have it on video somewhere buried at my moms house. I watched this thing so many damn times. I still love it. Watching that defense and the way Walter ran brings back some great memories.
    Part 1
    Can't find it damn it.

    Part 2

    Part 3

  • In reply to JAB1:

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    what in thee fuck was that?!!?!

  • C'mon boys, get with it. Is there anybody out there?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:




    may be a repost, but this may be the reason why Forte's contract situation has hit a wall. after Cutler went down, the real value of the team was shown. yes, Forte is a beast a RB, but Cutler is the guy who makes it happen for this squad. with "The Beast" and Alshon now here, dude is expendable (sucks, but that's reality).

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    FQ sighting!!!

    Whats up man?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    not much MB...working hard for the Man. what's up with you, big guy?

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    same my brother, same.

    You going to meet up with some of us for the game against the fudge on Dec the 16th?

    Common maings... come back to us!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    man it really depends on how money goes because I may have to move at the beginning of the year. Getting our own tickets or does Jefe have an inside track?

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    do know... I'm open to whatevers.

    We're just a motley band of punks right now... not a lot of structure. Maybe Jeff can get involved and help out? It started as me just wanting to go to my first ever game at Soldier... in the middle of winter... against our most hated.

    I'm down with whatever you locals want to do.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I do accept fully paid vacation donations to Chi in December. FYI

    You buy the ticket, I'll fly myself out. You're welcome.

  • I've actually been thinking about you on this one. Doc, catch me online next time and we can chat.

    I have a free AmEx companion ticket to use with your name on it... just don't know if we can use them from different states. The hotel is another story, have to get creative on that one. Catch me in MW3 and we'll brainstorm.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You locals? I'm in Arkansas lol

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    fucking arkansas!?!?! Jesus FQ, I'm sorry.

    Ha, just kidding man.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Cutler on Hester:

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    I like Kahlil Bell. I think he should be in front of Bush.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Big Mike, couldbn't disagree more on this beautiful Friday morning. Kahlil Bell is your everyday above average college running back and is nothing special as far as pro backs go.

    Michael Bush is a big, bruising back that can block a bit, catch screens out of the backfield and run the rock between the tackles and on the goal line.

    I want game changing backs in my 1-2 rotation, not run of the mill guys.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Mike, I want some of what you're smoking this morning maing.

    Common maaaaan!

    Bell highlight (notice no 's'):

    Bush highlightS:

    common maaaaan!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    An unimpressive highlight reel of Bush. Certainly there is some film out there that actually shows what's going on?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I know, I hate that on-field angle, it sucks.

    But it was on Da Site and I got lazying thinking that it's the official one the bears used... and they had a nice summation of his career numbers up front.

    Just go on youtube, I'm sure there are plenty out there.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Seriously. Put down the pipe and step away from the base rock. What the hell has Bell ever done? We needed a goal line back and thats just what we got in Bush. Bell is of little use to us now.

  • Bell is not that bad. Damn.

    If Bell works on keeping the ball close to his chest and does some conditioning, that way when he has a long run he doesn't run out of gas and gets caught from behind, then he would be a nice trade bait.

    Now, I don't think he will be able to showcase any of this without a injury or holdout. Thus, pointless.

  • More importantly, Bell is not that good.

  • Jay said he would be shocked if he doesn't see Forte at camp.

  • Don't taze me, bro!

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:


    This should make each Bear fan smile.

  • that's alot of groceries

  • Arbitrator Shyam Das has ruled in NFL's favor and dismissed NFLPA's grievance in bounty case.

  • Gabe Feldman ‏@SportsLawGuy
    NFLPA has 2 internal tracks left:1) argue that this was on-field conduct & commish doesn't have jurisdiction;2) appeal to commish.Then..sue?


    For you Willie.

  • Scoop says "the man is always screwing the little guy".

    I would advise Scoop to advance to 3:40 in this video:

  • In reply to gpldan:

    damn I want to grow a 70's porn stache.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    4:59... one of my favorite lines of the movie, given the context.

  • forte sounds ready
    it will be good
    to put this B.S. behind
    the thing i like about forte
    he stays the course
    when it comes to the field
    always is ready and willing to play
    his best options
    sign the tender
    get the $7 MILL
    become the super bowl MVP
    ride off into the sunset
    with some national advertising contract
    hanging out of his back pocket

  • I am so glad we don't have this immense asshole on our team

    Santonio Holmes was unhappy with his workload at yesterday's OTA practice and told reporters, "Let the coaches understand, too many reps today."

    Fucking punk.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jets suck.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    indeed they do my man... indeed they do.

    Unfortunately, their mediocre, choke-worthy, douchey QB has to be my hero for at least one feat (on-going... damn it!)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I don't who it was..hell it could have been me..but someone pointed out how they wish we could have gotten Rex Ryan as our head coach.

    Jets sucked last year but for a new head coach and a pretty loud one at that, to take his team to the AFC championship twice and it being back to back ?

    He can't be too bad. Except the foot in the mouth fetish. That is just weird.. or is it? lol

  • Oh it is very weird but each to their own I guess.

    Ryan is the complete opposite of Lovie and his defense is also. He fully relies on pressure to get the job done and our roster isn't built for that transition. Would have been a couple of years rebuilding to get the proper tools imo.

    Personally I prefer Lovie as he doesn't make wild statements every year that the team will win it all. Only the 85 bears deserve to do that.

  • warn't me lad. That guy is a fat POS.

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Societies symptoms show up at a football practice. Imagine that MB. How much you want to bet the Players Union goes on strike before this collective bargaining agreement runs out?

  • I think I'm gonna get banned.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    If what I said didn't get me run, I think you'll be fine.

  • I keep wondering why it is that LTs can't fire off and then slide with their hands up on their man. Nowadays it's backpedal and catch. Covert makes good points,0,5119509.column

  • Hopefully both of these guys have a good year to get back to Hawaii

  • Where is Irish at?

    Did I miss something?

  • Yo brah. Pretty busy with the kids. Tough times.

    This is sweet - Da Beast with Da Coach.


  • Interesting video chat with Jim Covert talking about the Bears' line.,0,5119509.column?track=rss

  • I've said this before, but the 3 contracts that are gonna be interesting in the very near future are Cutler, Lach and Melton (and why the big cash can't be thrown at Forte).

    1) Cutler. Much like Forte, Cutler lies in that gray area of "elite". As of right now, Cutler is not elite, but he was playing elite before the inj last year. This year is pretty much the make or break year for him. He was a PB before, and now the formula of Marshall and Bates were imported, added with Tice, audibles, two good hbs, and a more experienced line, he SHOULD improve. However, will he make the PB? If he does, Cutler will have to beat out Rodgers, ManCans, Bresus, just to name a few. Either way, Cutler will get a big deal, but I doubt he'll get Brady cash. I would say he'll get a contract more in line with Vick, Romo, Schaub, (roughly 6yr/60M) which is still a lot, but won't bankrupt our cap. If the Bears were smart, they'd resign Cutler now, coming off an inj with somewhat mediocre stats thus far will be cheaper than after he reaches the PB and lifts the Lombardi. (see Forte two years ago).

    2) Melton. I'm on record as never signing a one year wonder pass rusher. FA is full of teams who have thrown money at "break out stars" at DE/DT only to be disappointed. So the Bears waiting on how Melton performs this year is prudent. However, this is almost a lose/lose situation. IF Melton gets 7+ sacks again, that would mean he's going to command top DT money. Calais Campbell just signed a 5 year 55M contract. That might be what Melton would want in the open market. If Melton underperforms, then we're back to the "search for the next Tommie Harris" show. That's why I wanted Amobi resigned. The third DT could have stolen a few sacks from Melton and kept him at a reasonable price. Now, Melton will most likely get a lot more playing time, which is great for him and his wallet.

    3) Lach. Did anyone else notice how devalued LBs were in this past FA? I was shocked. Proof that HB has not been the only position devalued by the pass happy league. Texans pretty much just gave away Demarco Ryans. Tulloch, Hawthorne, Lofton (all about 5 years younger than Lach) were signed cheaply, and towards the end of FA meaning that they were more after thoughts. Lach however is the franchise face, which might put more in his bank (a la Olin). Still, given the market set, I can't see Lach costing an arm and a leg (unless of course, he becomes delusional like Olin, which sometimes great players in their later careers become). I would say Lach receive a London Fletcher contract (2yrs-10M). They're comparable in stats and age, more or less. Lach might get a little more because he's a tad bit younger and is the face of the Bears, but I don't think much more.

  • We are going to have to pay Cutler. Period.

    Melton could get an extension but I doubt it. He would be really cheap to franchise.

    Urlacher is going to be tough but Jeff seems to think he will retire a Bear. I could see him taking a decent deal and not complaining. He knows his value.

  • Cutler - He's already making roughly $9.5 per year. So 6 yr/$60 mil will have negligible impact on the cap. We also get a slight discount from him because this is an extension rather than a new contract.

    Melton - Agree with Artoo, but there is a concern there. The thing is, Peppers will be due for a pay cut soon as he is getting a bit older, and Big Country (like that name) is on a rookie wage scale deal for the next few seasons, so we'll have some D-line cash available. As long as Melton doesn't think he's getting Tommie Harris money, we're good to go.

    Lach - Lach makes a lot more than Briggs right now. If he's willing to take an extension at closer to the price range we're paying Briggs, but with guaranteed money (also like Briggs) then we stand to be in good shape at the LB position.

    None of these guys gives me huge concern about Forte's contract. The only thing that's probably in the back of Phil's mind in my opinion is the likely need for more money on the O-line. If CW is a lousy tackle, we might need to go FA next year. If CW is a good tackle, we'll need to give him a new deal, and that would likely eat more cap space than he's getting now. Meanwhile J-Webb, Lance, and Spencer are all in or close to contract years - if any of them really cements a starter spot this year, that could mean a bigger contract.

  • While on the FA note, does anyone with some inside info (Artoo?) know what the heck happened with Amobi? He was young, productive and fit our scheme perfectly (oh, and he didn't sign elsewhere for much). That whole situation still confounds me.

    I also would advocate for rookie HBs to be signed to two year deals. Right now, every draftee must sign a 4yr (5th yr option) deal. This is greatly unfair for HBs. I know some will argue "it becomes a slippery slope" but unlike our legal system, we can all use common sense here.

    HBs can enter the NFL with blazing guns (AP). It's one of the few positions that doesn't require a year or two to learn. Given that their life spans are universally acknoledged to be shorter than other positions, I think we can all accept an exception to their position for the draft.

    IF a draftee HB wants, he should be able to sign a two year offer, betting on himself, thus avoiding future Forte like situations. Two years is more than enough to figure out if a HB is inj prone, great or a bust.

  • More money is more money. Look at Baseball, Pujols went to another team for just because they offered more. A lot more but still.

    The other part could be the Bears didn't want to give him a starting job and just wanted to rotate him in. At Tampa, he really only has to go against one guy and that is McCoy. Thus, the other DT spot can be his no one else will challenge him for it..

    Interesting fact today, I asked Toeaina today " who is stronger you or Paea" and Toeaina replied back saying "Paea". Maybe the Bears told Amobi that he would not start over or have to compete with Paea. Believe it or not it sometimes is not all about the money.

  • I'm sure I don't entirely get this, knowing nothing about JB, but my son said it's a great parody. And it is certainly twisted enough for this blog.

  • Uhhhhh, isn't this just called evolution?

    Like this is the first time a sea-bound 'flotilla' deposited an alien species in a foreign land? wtf people, this is how nature works!? And continues to change and evolve.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    speaking of... watching Stephen Hawking's Grand Design right now.

    So damn fascinating. amazing. Wish I was smart. Oh well.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You ever play MW3 anymore, maing?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    getting on now my brother. been crazy lately. lot o life changes my man

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I get on and you never accept any of my invites?!

    Oh, you were just curious, didn't actually want to play. got it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Naw - your games are always full!
    I'll hop back on in a minute.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I was just mussin maing. I wait for a bit and you don't join so I jump into a game... you know I have the patience of a gnat

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hope yours suck less than mine...

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    my what suck less than yours rabbit... life changes? Doubt it my man... doubt it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'll have some free time for playing this afternoon. Noon pacific... Jump on guys.





    Jump on and get some.

  • can't doctor, setting up the old sick ass garage into a fucking Rocky 4 type gym space and going to workout until I throw up.

  • boom!

  • Sorry maing - my stomach is messed up and I'm just trying to rest my eyes in between booting..

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The smarter you are, the more idiots you have to put up with.

    Stephen Hawking is giving a talk in Seattle in June. Thinking seriously about going.

  • very true doc, very true.

    I might jump on doc.

  • Atheistic faith masquerading as science

    As usual with atheistic scientists, Hawking’s atheopathy long predated his science. His influential mother Isabel was a Communist, and in his teen years he admired the strongly anti-Christian mathematical philosopher Bertrand Russell.

    As with Dawkins, his arguments for atheism are puerile, e.g.

    We are such insignificant creatures on a minor planet of a very average star in the outer suburb of one of a hundred billion galaxies. So it is difficult to believe in a God that would care about us or even notice our existence.

    Yet King David was equally aware of our tininess compared with the universe’s vastness, and came to a different conclusion in Psalm 8:3–5:

    3 When I look at your heavens, the work of your fingers, the moon and the stars, which you have set in place,

    4 what is man that you are mindful of him, and the son of man that you care for him?

    5 Yet you have made him a little lower than the heavenly beings and crowned him with glory and honor.

    Similarly, as C.S. Lewis pointed out, the medieval theologians were well aware that compared to the vastness of heavens, the earth was but a point in space. But somehow modern antitheists think this is news, regard it as a profound disproof of God, as if God needed a small universe to exist. And if the universe were small, then these same atheopaths would probably whine, “If God is so great, then why didn’t He create anything else?”6

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I can only imagine that Russell's works would be deeply upsetting to a guy like you.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Wrong GP. I am only addressing a very obvious reason why the guy has formed his theories. You do know they are only theories, right? I have and do look at all sides/arguments when it come to creation origins. I still have not found one that makes more sense the the Biblical perspective. Our origin is an age old question. I do find your last "a guy like you" statement quite telling. I have no hate for athiest's. Do you hate me because we see life so differently?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    You must not have looked very hard if the Biblical perspective of creation makes the most sense to you. Either that or you were looking through the eyes of a man raised in the church which is my guess. Agree to disagree track. Evolution has been proven, over and over again. Magic zombie Jesus has not.

  • Actually Coach, I never stepped into a Church until I was about 35. I did not come to my faith until I was 40. My views were pretty much like most of yours until I read the Bible. Even after I came to my faith I struggled with reconciling most of what I had come to believe through what I had been taught in public schools. When I found out that secular scientific theories were being taught incorrectly as fact(as you mistakenly believe), I began to understand how easy it is to form world views based on conjecture rather than fact. Evolution as it is taught is a grand deception. No fossil of a transitional phase required to prove evolution as it's taught has ever been found. The gene pool allows for variation within a species but no where in the fossil record has the missing link been found in any kind.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    My problem with you stems from the constant mutual acknowledgement of "we're going to stick to football and some jokes" and then you never do. You take whatever opening there is to proselytize.

    Just stop that. It's annoying. It's one step above sandwich board guy standing on the street corner telling you to repent and be saved. I want the guys wearing sandwich boards to be advertising... for sandwiches. Yummy ham sandwiches.

    That is all.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And, BTW, I did 12 years of Catholic school. I get a
    "get out of jail free" card with no expiration date on making fun of Christianity or religion in general if I feel like it.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I honestly don't get angry when the jokes about religion surface GP, I get it. I enjoy the stimulation of looking deeper at the issues, ideas posted here. Sometimes a provocation can lead into some very interesting discussion. I am not trying to convert anyone. I do think that we all post articles and make statements that sometime have unintended consequences. I understand my faith GP, I also understand the opposition to it.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    No more theory than your anthropomorphic God. The part that to me shows the least evidence of intellect is the surety of both camps.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Which I will clarify by saying that any attempt to apply intellect to faith is by definition doomed to failure. The realms are independent so far as I can understand.

    But maybe that is just because I'm a dumbass.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Exactly Dave. Bingo, give the man a star. Now you understand my position. They are ALL/BOTH theories. I'm just trying to get those on the other side to acknowledge their world view is also a religion by definition, only they refuse to acknowledge that. It is mathematically impossible for Creation to have happened by chance. Check it out.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Dude, seriously? Watch Disney, it's healthier, at least you know that is fantasy.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    really? bible?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Then we are agreed, we both see a different truth.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Yes, we should both believe in Disney instead.

    In all fairness, I don't follow Hawking like you follow the bible. I simply find the concepts fascinating. Not sure what I actually believe in re: string theory and the rest of quantum physics, but I know I wish I were smart enough to understand and follow it much more deeply so I could actually form an understanding and view point.

    That said, if you must know... I believe in the spaghetti monster.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Spaghetti.... with Old Sauce.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    And its noodley appendage!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    From a purely mathematical approach, 0=0. For the big bang to have taken place, a mysterious 1 has to miraculously appear. Where did the 1 come from? I have the answer, Hawkins does not, nor does any other scientist who promotes the big bang theory. It's true, I don't have enough faith to be an athiest.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Ever get the feeling that when Rex Ryan lets one go in his office, his asst. coaches call that the big bang?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    you don't have the answer, you have a story... written by men trac.

    Here's my deal... using your formula above... isn't god a 1? (does that make jesus a .5?)

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Technically, that would make Jesus 0.333..

  • you're welcome:

  • you're welcome again... happy bday to my girl... I mean dirty sanchize's girl (damn it):

  • scareface:

  • Some good advice for all, I think.

  • hope Jimbo's right about Tice and the line:,0,5119509.column

  • Here's one for Sac:!

    (I've actually really grown to like fallon ((although those retarded baby commercials are so bad))... he's a talented guy and all those LAME SNL skits didn't do him justcie )

    And again:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    damn you MB!!!! why???...why??...why???
    this just pisses me off even more with no HONEYBEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    MCFUSKY'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO GET SOME!!! what there are no hotties who want to cheer for..drunken, fat 50 year old men who can't figure out to piss our shit the trough in the head at Soldier Field...hee hee hee

  • this is the kind of sheite McFucky's would have instead of the Honeybears....!#@$!%#$@#$!$#!$#@!$

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    That song has potential to be the new and improved way of RickRolling! Awesome!

  • I'm thinking that this mini has hit to many potholes on lakeshore drive, and it's just gotten accustomed to hump'n and bump'n

  • Any of you guys been to a bachelor party at Foxwoods Casinoin CT before? I need some kick ass ideas for my buddy who's getting married. (Sucker, I know). Thanks!

  • In reply to Shady:

    I've heard there are girls out there that will take off their clothes while music is played through some sort of sound device.

    I've also heard that some of these girls, if incentivized properly, will plunge penis shaped objects into themselves and the other
    "dancer(s)". Look into it.

  • hahahahahaha.... classic.

  • That's the problem, no strip clubs at Foxwoods. The bar is probably full of hooers though.

  • In reply to Shady:

    dude, doc and i playing right now. come get some

  • In reply to Shady:

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  • In reply to MB30SD:

  • In reply to Shady:

    that is so me

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    Hard to see what either side is planning at this point.

    Forte seems to have two options:

    1) Sign the tender, play all 16 games for $7.7 million for a team that has no interest in his long-term future or a multi-year deal and risk being franchised again in '13. Likewise, the team may have no interest in safe-guarding his long-term health, as evidenced by his heavy usage (over use?) the last four seasons.

    2) Sit out the first 10 games, sign the tender on latest date possible November 20th (Tuesday before team's 11th game), and make $2.92 million for 6 weeks of work (aka vJax in '10). It's just about the only leverage Forte can fight for at this point, but he does need to fight for it, by being willing to sit out.

    What's hard to see is that if Forte wants the leverage afforded by sitting out the first 10 games, he can only leverage a multi-year deal with the Bears if threatened before 7/16. As of now, Forte is not talking about sitting out regular season games, quite the opposite. Unless, Forte is hoping for a multi-year deal, with anyone but the Bears.

    On the other hand, the Bears appear to be hardening their stance, expecting Forte to capitulate or surrender unilaterally and sign the tender without any concessions at all. Hard to see anyone with self-respect, particularly Forte, going along with that. $2.92 million is still a significant raise, and Forte probably could survive on that for a year very nicely. The Bears' playoff chances without Forte?? Not nearly as nice.

    Maybe Brad Biggs had a good point on Friday when mentioning that Lance Briggs only signed a tender after forcing the Bears to legally agree to not franchise again the next year. I could see where a similar concession to Forte may trigger his signing of the tender.

  • In reply to Pete Wilberscheid:

    Biggsy makes a good point. Thank God journalists use laptops now, his point may have gotten smeared by sweat otherwise.

    Forte will probably hold out and ask for a deal where he takes the tag this year in exchange for going UFA next.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    hee hee.... he's fat.

  • Toeaina has a broken hand. He will still be at camp.

  • The big 'ol cast/club?

  • R2, you are pushing 10k views on FN. Any payout for you yet?

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    Nope. You notice those footballs that are silver, green, and bronze. I need a 100 of those to up my status of a contributor to a reporter.

  • did you hear that Mike... he said, "one"

  • League announces 3 game suspension for Vikings WR Jerome Simpson

  • A little justice from Dad on the guy he caught molesting his daughter.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Good! I hope dad doesn't go to jail.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    If the story is true, the son of a bitch did certainly had it coming. I imagine the medical examiner will determine this one.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Doh... did had?

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    "You have a right to defend your daughter. He acted in defense of his third person."

    That dad is the man... not because of what he did because I think every good dad would... but for having the ability to 'act' remorseful after the fact. I would still be trying to fucking rip his fucking heart out with my hands as 5-10 police officers *tried* to pull me off the piece of shit.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    My thoughts exactly.

  • Also looking for Unga Bunga to be our new Wedge buster.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    It will be interesting to see if he can make the roster. I can't imagine he will be an option at RB (Bush is similar but much more accomplished). Sounds like a good guy. I remember a poster saying he was his dad. Probably was. Why would you like about that?

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Lie. DUH! Finger fucked it.

  • Ok. I know camp hasn't started yet, and we still are nowhere near waiver wire week.

    But our DT situation is teh suck, and the whole DL thing...

    We have Toe, who know has club hand, and can "still kinda" get in his stance. Great.

    Flatbread, who I realize is now working off of two legs rather than one, but still needs to work off the nickname.

    Melton, who is unhappy with his deal, coming off a year where he faded out as the year went on.

    John McCargo and DeMario Pressley. Um.... ok. Nate Collins. Sounds like a guy in my HS yearbook.

    At End, we got Big Country (sorry, I forgot his other nick) at rook. Pep, who didn't finish great last year but had injuries.
    Izz - now a 2nd stringer
    Chauncey Davis. Thaddius Gibson.
    And pulling up the rear, ready to toot toot his way to the next train out of town, Woot Woot Wooten.

    I know that in no way represents who is making the roster this year when Game 1 happens. I am hoping for big things from Paea and a return to form from Melton.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    If McClellin brings it, we could be in good shape. If not, uh-oh.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Who cares? We're scoring 40 points a game, right? Oh, wait, make that 23. No Forte.

  • Chicken Dinner!

  • Doh! Oh yeah, thanks.

  • That is the best nickname ever.

    If memory serves, that the was actual name of the fucking street he lived on growing up!

    Shitkickers are awesome.


  • Am I crazy or does he look like him and Clutts could be related?


    aaaaaand the money shot:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    btw, I am going to be very upset if we release the only FB that's been worth a shit for us since suey.

    AND the dude is a badass STer

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    With you on that, MB. I like the guy.

  • Dolphins talking contract with Chad Ochocinco. Deal could get done in short order. Continues to look like this one will come together

  • doc, just caught your facebook song up top. post those mp3s maing. sweet!

  • so who's in for the game on the 16th?

    Me, Doc (if we can get him there and house him), Shady, Johnny, MBP, Murph?,Erik?, GP?, Hunti?, Corm?, Jokey?, Jeff?, NB?... how about some of you out-of-staters... trac, lobo, canada, dave, Al????

    Common boys, it's been 3 years with this core crew... let's do this!

    … but I propose a mandatory game. Everyone shows up at a place the first time but doesn’t into themselves. We can all throw up a DBB gang sign when we first walk in to show we’re one of the guys. Then first guy there (maybe jeff) writes all our handles on cards and we take turns guessing who’s who. That would be awesome. (jeff, shady, mbp, murph, erik, NB, jokey can’t play, they already know each other)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Very tempting and I might make that one and not go to other one in Jax or Nashville.

    I like wearing my tights in the cold.

  • shrinkage?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Actually no. I sweat in that suit when it's hot out.

  • Erik... ain't going to be hot on Dec the 16th at Soldier my maing. Going be be fucking freezing, and I am hoping for serious snow.

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • yo dog, you're lookin all swooooooole!

    (no seriously)

  • "Hey kid, here's a skateboard. Now suck my dick." - Jerry Sandusky

    (Seen at the airport on the back of a t-shirt yesterday. The front said FUCK PENN STATE)

    Vile yes, but perhaps necessary for that joke of a school.

  • In reply to gpldan:


    I hope that monster fries maings.

  • MJD refuses to show up for the Jags.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The team won't refuse to fine him.

  • And unlike Forte, he IS under contract, correct?

  • god I hope this guy gets brutally beaten to death in jail.

    "Earlier Monday, the witness, who was a weak 13-year-old boy when he met Sandusky but is now a no-nonsense 28-year-old man, had said the former Penn State defensive coordinator treated him "like a son."

    Victim No. 4 just shook his head and dismissed the suggestion that anything positive could be gleaned from the description.

    "He treated me like a son in front of other people," the witness said, sternly, with an air of scolding toward the defense attorney.

    "Aside from that, he treated me like his girlfriend."

    As gasps were audibly heard in the courtroom for a line straight off a movie script, Amendola paused, shuffled his notes and kept fumbling as the witness maintained his steely posture.

    Unless the defense has a plan to later recall the witness and catch him in multiple lies, there were almost no positives to the day for Sandusky. It was a bludgeoning, as if the witness had been waiting 15 years to rain down these stories on his alleged perpetrator and wasn't going to miss a single opportunity to go for the throat."

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