Audibles From the Long Snapper: Quick Hits

Audibles From the Long Snapper: Quick Hits


We've clamored for it a long time and it is now a reality. The NFL is making its All-22 (coaches) tape available to every single fan in the world - on the internet - for only $70. I have a bunch of random thoughts on this development:

  • It is another bad step for the newspaper industry. For years fans have relied upon the information from newspapers and networks less and less and now, with access to the same tape as Dan Pompei and Jaws, fans will turn to themselves. It will empower NFL fans both gloriously and obnoxiously.
  • My biggest issue with writing about the NFL is my completely inability to evaluate offensive linemen and off-ball defensive players. That will no longer be an issue in 2012. DaBearsBlog will have the All-22 and spend Monday mornings re-watching each Bears game.
  • I can't imagine GMs and coaches will like this. Fans already think they know more than the professionals running football organizations. Now the fans will cite evidence.

And it's a question. Gregg Williams admitted to his role in the bounty scandal. He has accepted, without appeal, his indefinite suspension. So if the defensive coordinator admittedly orchestrated a bounty program with the New Orleans, how are all of the Saints defenders denying involvement? Did Williams do it himself? Did he pay Joe Vitt to hurt players? Isn't this truly the only piece of evidence Roger Goodell needs?

Also I continue to love players complaining about THINGS THEY AGREED TO IN THEIR CBA! What happened during that negotiation, exactly? They agreed to franchise tag continuation and not a single player in the NFL wants to accept the franchise tag. They granted Roger Goodell full authority on disciplinary measures and now the NFL player Twitter world is exploding with idiocy calling him a "tyrant". I don't get it.


We are entering the last phase of production. Tee-shirts will be available by the tail end of next week. We'll then take orders for a month or so and send out the first shipment all at once. (A limited number of DBB koozies will also be available.) Stay tuned.

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  • I don't know if Halas Hall will like the ALL 22 available to fans. It will be hard to keep lying about the offensive line and the safety play when everyone can see what is going on.

    If ALL 22 was available the last 2 seasons then Lovie, Angelo and the lot would have been run out of town.

    Also, Percy Harvin wants out of Minny? I wonder why? I have a feeling we won't be seeing WIlberdork around here talking shit about us "kids". Your own house is a fucking pig sty Peter. I'd worry more about the fact that you may not win a game this year than how the bears deal with Forte. Jesus.

  • To be honest, your almost Sandusky-esque obsession with my 2-year old cousin is more than a little creepy and unsettling. Please when around young boys, keep the pants zipped up. More importantly, please seek help - as you need (at least 1) professional to speak with.

    It's true that my 2-year old cousin owns a Viking jersey. And, it is also true that I am not a Vikings fan. Go figure.

    More to the point, I have observed, year after year, Bears' management waste resources via management decisions based on arrogance, surplus testosterone, and outright conceit. Unfortunately, the Bears' handling of Forte is following that same pattern.

    Until someone actually knocks off GB on the field, they deserve their due. Also, it may be a longshot (but certainly not impossible) for a wild card team to come from the South or West. However, for this post, I assume not.

    That leaves 3 spots remaining with (in no particular order) 5 solid contenders - Giants (SB champs), Eagles (improved DEF), Cowboys (improved DEF), Lions (improved via youth/RB), and Bears (improved WRs/depth).

    The margin of error for the Bears simply making the playoffs is not that great for them to be too intransigent with the Forte issue.

    If the Bears enter the final game of season in Detroit needing a win to make the playoffs, and end up missing the opportunity, please feel free to contact me again.

    But, please, leave my 2-year old cousin alone.

  • In reply to Pete Wilberscheid:

    To be honest, when you go for the "pedophile" slam, all merit is lost in what was an otherwise intelligent sounding post.

    Don't go away mad, Pete. Just go away.

  • +1 on the Pedophile slur. Uncalled for.

  • In reply to Pete Wilberscheid:

    Expect Detroit to take a big a step back.

    1. How many of their players are in trouble?

    2. They did not beat one team with a winning record last year.

    3. Stafford has only played one full season and Megatron is on the cover of Madden.

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    Yep, and I like the Madden cover angle (eventhough I would still consider grabbing Megatron in the first round of a fantasy draft).

    Many people (especially in Chicago) are looking for the Lions to regress. The thing about it is that their schedule is almost identical to Bears, in terms of light opponents. There are going to be many weeks where Bears fans will be frustrated because the Lions (or Packers for that matter) are playing the Colts, or Rams, or Jaguars, etc.

    The only difference in the schedules is where the Bears have a home game against Carolina and a road game against Dallas, the Lions host Atlanta and travel to Philadelphia. Not sure either is much more difficult than the other.

    So, I picked Atlanta as the team that regresses leaving Detroit as a contender (due to youth and return of Leshoure for 14 games). But, it could be that Detroit regresses and Atlanta contends.

    Either way, the Bears' margin of error is not that large.

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    In reply to Pete Wilberscheid:

    Also, the comment about not beating a winning team is true, but slightly mis-leading.

    The Lions were 5-1 against teams that ended 8-8 for the year. So, in a sense, the Lions prevented up to 5 teams from ending with a winning record.

    Seldom does one hear a Bears fan, when talking up the glorious 5-game winning streak that was pacing the team to a Super Bowl last year, mention that only one of those 5 games was against a team with a winning record, or a team that made the playoffs.

  • In reply to Pete Wilberscheid:

    True but it still says a lot when you get to the playoffs and you are blown out of the water.

    Beat a team with a winning record and then we will talk.

  • In reply to Pete Wilberscheid:

    Either way, the Bears' margin of error is not that large.

    Yours, however, is gigantic.

    -45 blog points for making Sandusky into an adjective.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    It was certainly Wilberscheid-esque.

  • In reply to Pete Wilberscheid:

    I don't see Atlanta regressing. Their offense is potent enough to win games and their defense is solid.

    If the Saints were not to busy trying to kill people, they would have a legitimate shot at the division. The NFC South is up for grabs because no one knows who will play like they are suppose to.

    Carolina is a team that could shock a lot of people if their defense stays healthy and their qb doesn't have a sophomore slump.

    Tampa Bay added a great guard, a great Wr, and drafted a solid safety and decent running back to compete with Blount.

    I can't choose anyone in that division that looks better over the other.

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    Do you see a wild card contender coming from this division though ??

  • In reply to Pete Wilberscheid:

    Between the NFC East , the NFC North, and the NFC South, you tell me who you really see not being a contender?

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    Washington, Minnesota, Tampa Bay (at least this year), Carolina (at least this year).

    With regards to Atlanta, I realize that I am on an island of my own, but I saw them regressing towards the middle of last season, and don't see a reason to believe that to reverse.itself.

    Can Matt Ryan bounce back if both R. White and J. Jones stay injury free for most of the season? Of course. Is Michael Turner good for another season, or has he gone over the RB cliff that so many have posted about on this blog? I just don't see the off-season improvement in the Falcons that I see in other teams, including the Bears. But, many others are predicting them as division winners.

    Also, I think it's a common mistake to over-state the impact of offseason troubles to onseason results. Yes, the Saints' suspensions could have a huge impact in week 4 against an equally talented team - like the Packers. However, there are many NFL teams that still are overmatched by the Saints' remaining talent, with or without Sean Payton.

    Likewise with the Lions, not having LeShoure for week 1 at home against the Rams, no big deal. In week 2, on the road in San Francisco, that could be another matter.

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    Better stated than post below:

    I like to place teams in tiers, as there are so many variants that it is impossible to argue exact poll positions.

    Last year, tier 1 was probably GB and NO. This year, I am dropping NO down a tier, leaving the Packers alone until someone knocks them off on the field.

    Tier 2 contains Giants, Eagles, Cowboys, Bears, Lions, Saints (div winner), and 49ers (div winner). Too many teams here for all to make the playoffs.

    Tier 3 - Falcons, Panthers

    Tier 4 - Buccaneers

    Tier 5 - Redskins, Vikings

    The approach works well for fantasy auction drafts and I like it here as well. Eventhough the Bears have made the playoffs only once in last 5 years, I have felt they were always in that tier that contended for playoff spots.

    That includes last year when they missed the playoffs, and the year before when they hosted the NFC championship game, but would have missed the playoffs had the Calvin Johnson play been ruled a TD in week one that year. That's what I mean by unpredictable variants.

  • ATL - Meg Ryan is Meg Ryan. I don't buy into him.

    CAR - could get interesting down there as long as Cam doesn't get broken up.

    TB - they can have what they like around Josh Freeman .... but you've got Josh Freeman as your man. Yeesh.

  • I expect the Lions to be the same thing this year that they were last season.

    - Truly dangerous passing attack featuring probably the best WR in the league, a solid starting QB, reliable backup QBs and a nice supporting cast of role players at WR.
    - Injury prone running backs that don't really scare anyone even when healthy.
    - Significant risk of injury to QB due to average line play and no running threat.
    - Dangerous pass rushing D-line, but vulnerability against the run.
    - A defense that gets weaker the further into the back field you go.

    Stafford and Johnson will outrace a lot of weak teams in shoot-out wins. But against balanced offenses (like New Orleans, Chicago, Houston) that can defeat Suh, or against solid defenses, especially pressure defenses (Houston, NYJ, Green Bay) they're going to really struggle.

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    In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Thanksgiving Day game against the Texans can demonstrate your theory to a nation-wide audience.

  • Seeing as we'll be sweeping every BiQueen, Kitty and Fudger in sight this season I reckon they're all taking big steps back come football time.

    And the beautiful thing is we can do it with our backup QB if necessary. Boy has an arm.

  • In reply to Pete Wilberscheid:

    Pete - I agree with Doc, you're retort was uncalled for and was infuriating to the point that I want really wanted to pull a Rockatansky and send you my personal email so we could meet up and talk it out. Why would you even bring that subject up?

    From the tiny fucking avatar all I see is a Vikings jersey and based on the fact that I don't religiously cut and paste all of your posts to a separate document of my computer to review I apologize that I couldn't remember that you weren't just a fucking troll on a Bears blog.

    I apologize for errantly commenting that you were a Vikings fan and therefore that snippy part of the post doesn't apply.

    Don't bring up shit like Sandusky ever when talking to a dad of a 2yr old girl and 6 month boy.

  • Apology accepted.

  • In reply to Pete Wilberscheid:

    I wish you had responded differently or at least owned up to your truly out of line comment.
    I am really frustrated right now that you have the right to say stuff like that without repercussion under the veil of anonymity and safety that the internet provides.

  • Given our two tags, I can not agree with the 'anonymity' claim.

    But, I quibble.

    I apologize as well.

  • It will empower NFL fans both gloriously and obnoxiously.

    I am completely unable to distinguish between these two adverbs. Power to the people!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP, the obnoxiously part refers to giving the power to comment on NFL performance to guys like this:

    Am I the only who doesnt think she is that hot? Im not saying shes ugly or anything like that, but ive heard her name so many so times and shes a bit overrated. But thats just me.
    FlyingAero 11 hours ago

    She don't know how to walk!
    adrina911 15 hours ago

    She would be so much hotter if she worked out.
    bread54321 20 hours ago

    she has weird hips
    YOWHATTHEHELLUP71 1 week ago

    This chick has a terrible figure. No waistline whatsoever...big boobs but not firm and no!! She has a very pretty face though. To each his own. (she is 33-25-36)
    zulinate 1 week ago

    She's too fake looking. I don't think she's pretty either. ADRIANA, MIRANDA, ALESSANDRA AND CANDICE FOREVER!
    RayBabie787 4 weeks ago

    Huh? I never comment on videos if I dont have anything nice to say... But... Really?! Am I the only one who doesnt find this girl THAT attractive? Im not saying she's not cute, but shes nothing special. Besides that bounce, can someone please explain this to me?
    FefyZunigaCll 1 month ago

    This is who these people are talking about:


  • In reply to gpldan:

    Ahh, GP likes them a little dirty, a little edgy. A true south sider. An occasional potty mouth, knows the batting average of Konerko over the last 4 seasons, has a great tequila girl/girl makeout story and doesn't shy away from the occasional BJ.


  • In reply to gpldan:

    yeah, none of em really did anything for me, but after a few beers I might fuck a couple of em with your dick Johnny.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    have him back by 10pm!

  • Jebus H! Those people are certifiable.

    I hope those bouncing beauties don't reappear in my mind whilst the doc has his scalpel on my nuts. I'm libel to poke his eye out.

  • Ridiculous. I'd eat the corn out of her shit. I'm serious, I'm hungry as fuck this morning. Missed breakfast, and the fact that she's hot as hell.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    classic. I have a good buddy who always used to say that.

    I actually thought about using it here before, but it's a bit harsh. Congrats Jab.

    btw, you coming to the game on the 16th?

    And what the hell ever happened to Buttsteak?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, I will be there, especially if all you guys are going.

  • wow, those people need to rounded up and sterilized since they obviously are a danger to society and themselves.

    in all seriousness, I agree with your underlying point... and attraction is one of the most subjective things there are.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That last clause says it all...

    That being granted, obsessions are not pretty things.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    woaaaa there. Obsession!?!?! Oh, you mean with beautiful boobies. Yeah, guilty as charged on that one dave.

    Sorry for the terrible grammar btw, didn't proof it... or think for that matter.

  • If the commenters are women, MEOW!. If the commenters are men, they're either gay or in the folks basement rubbing one out. I'm not exactly at MB's level of interest when it comes to Kate (see how I did that?) but she's definitely a hottie.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    she's hot but i could have substituted hundreds of examples of the fucking idiot douchebags that are afforded a voice because of the internet and democracy in general.

    You show me a youtube clip of a guy doing a triple back flip off of a parking structure into a tuck/roll through a ring of fire and I'll show you some fuck that says, "i mean, it's tough, but it's not like it's impossible. I wouldn't call that epic."

  • Going nuts here. So escared. So very escared.

    See how I did that, MB?


  • embrace it Doc, no more spray and pray just spray and yay!

  • Pulling for you doc... I mean... shit... we're behind you do... damn it... good luck maings!!!

  • Jeff - I think you give too much credit to the fan base the NFL is going for. There's a reason why Troy Aikman is still on MNF. There's a reason why hack journalists get cushy jobs at the Tribune and ESPN when anyone with any football sense can see they have no idea what they're talking about. The NFL is targeting the mass market, and the mass market doesn't really understand offensive line blocking schemes or proper angles for safety play.

    I think All-22 will empower the fans that the NFL doesn't really care to cater to. The larger fan community will have more tape to watch that they don't understand, and the hack journalists will have more tape they can show to make incorrect points.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    What he said! Especially that last sentence.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Now what I wish the NFL would do is let guys like Your Boy Roy use the tape (perhaps with a licensing fee) to make the videos that they don't make. Even Mike Mayock, who's a lot of fun to watch breaking down film, will analyze maybe one play from one angle in about 90 seconds.

    I want to watch someone analyze JaMarcus Webb as a left tackle for 30 minutes with 25-50 clips to show in the process. Especially in the off-season, that's gold to me. If the NFL doesn't want to do that themselves (and they never will, because who would watch?) they should let the small market guys do it.

    Roy, Jeff, Artoo - Would you pay for the right to use All-22 videos in your journalism?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Roy is going to get it and he is looking for a way to use them without getting in trouble.

    I would pay. I would love to show people how Jay covered up how bad the line was last year, how good our corners really are (including Tim Jennings), and if anyone improves over the course of the season.

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    In reply to NewBearInTown:

    The beauty of going to game and sitting in the 400s is the eye in sky perspective. Getting the All22 is so cool. Watch the game without missing a play (happens to me all the time, when I try to focus on the line play), then go to the All22 to learn more about what happened.

    If I'm a coach I don't fear this. I know that I know more about my team and my scheme than you do. Not even worried about it.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Gotta agree NB. I don't know why anyone would get their panties in a knot over this. Reasonable fans will still be reasonable and loudmouth, opinionated idiots will still be Lions fans.

  • My stupid damn MW3 disc has a tiny scratch on it that prevents it from getting scanned by the reader.

    I am taking this as a sign from the Ghods to hang up MW3. I want to play a 3rd person shooter with some Starcraft like RTS to it, but PS3 has no Halo like games - but this just came out and looks fun so I am switching to it:

    I invite anyone else to join me.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Damn, GP. I was looking forward to shooting you, err, hearing your voice.

  • I sound like Elmer Fudd.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    a very VERY angry elmer fudd

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Well, I imagine that getting pwned while in your own personal holodeck is a little bit frustrating.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That does look pretty cool. I may be coerced.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Or you could be cool GP, and get an xbox. Then Halo could be a reality.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    xbox is for 13 year old girls Jab... just ask Erik.

    (so so gay... not that there's anything wrong with that)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hey, girls like playing that game!!!

    lol if you want Kate Upton in your room , talk her into coming over and playing that game... be amazed at how many girls will want to dance for you in your living room..

    Foooorr freee!

  • well played sir... well played.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Anyone wanna come over and play some Contra?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Take it to gamestop. I am pretty sure they can fix it for free or for like 5 dollars.

  • you played like fucking twice GP!?! Jesus.

    Go get it fixed maings.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Watch the video review:

    Something for EVERYONE, even slow guys who need to use brains as well as speed.

  • Doc, you should write this site down. After your vasectomy you're going to be wheel chair bound. Internet income will be the only income coming in. Don't do it doc.

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    In my opinion ALL22 in the hands of the average fan allows so much to be taken out of context. The margin between Great, Good, Average and Awful in the NFL is very slim. The role scheme and team play into is huge. Is the guy next to me good? Is our play calling predictable, are we losing by a lot of points all the time. I think these things contribute quite a bit.
    We'll see more matchups that we want to look at. But what % of fans buying the ALL22 know the difference between something as simple as a combo block and a zone step?

  • Jab1,

    I see you posted some sort of reply to me on the right. It's not showing up on the board though. Care to repost?

  • Stupid board. I was just trying to tell you not to get your balls snipped. It's bad news. Men need to spread the seed my man.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    To late now. Plus, my seeds done been spread far & wide.


    PFT suggests that Harvin might want to go to San Francisco to be with Randy Moss. I have to say that sounds a bit too much like a conspiracy theory to me, and I think pretty much anyone in the league would love to play for San Francisco right now over Minny, but it is intrigueing.

    Harvin would be cheap, which the Niners need to keep the cap under control. Harvin's all purpose style would fit the Niners well given their love for the short pass and the involving TEs. And Harvin's attitude would probably be brought under control pretty quickly by the Niner's coaching staff.

    But the 49rs are supposedely stacked at WR.

    So how about this idea. The 49rs send Michael Crabtree and a 2nd to Minny in exchange for Harvin and a 5th. Harvin gives the 49rs a team friendly deal in exchange for an early exit from his rookie deal. Crabtree gives the Vikings a step down at WR (but potential for better production in a new system) and also a team friendly deal given his mediocre performance thus far.

    Both teams keep the same number of draft picks, but the Niners trade down for the WR upgrade and the Vikings can use the spare 2nd rounder to fill the void if Crabtree doesn't pan out.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Well, this would explain why Jimmy Harbaugh says incredible bullshit things like "Crabtree has the best hands in football", and generally treats the guy like he's gonna marry Jimmy's daughter instead of the prima-donna bust he actually has been.

    It's like when the Used Car salesmen tells you the lemon he is selling you was HIS personal car. As if.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Would you take Crabtree or Sanzenbacher? What FAs would you take over Crabtree?

    The pick is the real reason to make the trade, but sending Crabtree can give Minny someone to fill a roster spot.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    If the Niners want Harvin, who is a real slot weapon, a poor man's Hester on kicks and way more useful than Crabby - I should think they will have to give up draft picks to get him.

  • I'm just not sure if McClellin is going to feel this as his theme song...

    Great music though.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Now we just need to hook him up with his own Eva Gabor.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Whenever I play the intro of that song on the piano, every guy of a certain age gets a grin on his face and women just look confused. Loved that show!

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Good call NB. Seen Bela last December in concert (with a different band). Love the bass player Victor Wooten.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Ahhh, a Victor Wooten reference. One of the best in the biz. Saw the flecktones once. Not really my style but I love Bela Flek and I love the musicianship of each member of the band. His brother "Futureman" invented an instrument called the synthaxe-drumitar. It's basically a synthesized percussion set-up played guitar style. Knowing you, Cor, I'm sure you already knew that, but I'm guessing most on here did not.

  • Doc, I've seen those contraptions before, but didn't know what they were called. Did you ever check out the Trigger Hippy link I sent you a while ago? It was at the end of a thread, so just in case I'll send it again. I think these cats are right up your alley, especially right after smoking a big fatty.
    No video on this one, just some groovy grooves.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I'm sans fatty's for 2 weeks now. Taking an indefinite vacation. I'll check the links though.

    Here's a local band that seems to be taking off. Best band name ever too: The Grizzled Mighty

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Is that Joan Osborne, who sang with the Dead after Jerry died?

  • That most certainly is Joan. She also played with Phil and Friends, as did Jackie Greene, the guitar player / singer / keyboardist of Trigger Hippy. I seen Jackie open for Mule a few times with his band, and they were very good, always with a little Dead thrown in. I think a couple other members of the band used to be in the Black Crows at one time or another.
    I was at the first show with the entire Grateful Dead band after Jerry died at Alpine Valley. The band was called The Other Ones, and Susan Tedeschi was a female vocalist for them at that time.
    A few years later I seen a show in Stillwater, MN called Dylan and the Dead with Bob as the opening act. I'll check out the Grizzled Mighty.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I'm thinking this one may appeal during the off-season...

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Oh, and while I'm at it, gotta put this one out here too...

  • If you crazy mofos in blogland that are NOT from the greater Tri-State area are thinking that perhaps - just perhaps - your part of the nation is creeping up and being as corrupt and incorrigible as the City of Chicago, alas I am here to disabuse you of that notion.

    Former Mayor Daley got a job. Not just any 'ol job mind you. Something that would have made papa proud. He got a job as a lawyer, for the firm that represented Chicago Meters LLC. You may have heard of this Dubai owned company. They brought a 75 year lease on all the parking meters in Chicago.

    Overnight, the amount you needed to put in a meter in Chicago went from a quarter to a dollar. It's now a dollar AND a quarter. Daley got a nice little cash infusion into his balance sheet, and the taxpayers of the city got an Sandusky sized assfucking, albeit one where you don't walk funny until the next day.

    Now, Rahm is cash poor, and a major tributary of money has been cut off from him for, oh, basically two generations or lifetimes. The money goes to Dubai. Daley, however, has profited handsomely, at least with the good sense to wait a couple years before coming to collect. As Jack Nicholson says in the Departed, How's your mother? She's on her way out. Yeah, we all are - act accordingly.

    Rahm, knowing he was handed a shit sandwich without mustard OR relish - has done the only sane thing he could: it was federally impermissible to give the Camel Jockeys the coin from parking tickets. The city keeps that. And, you know, with the fucking meters needing a second mortgage, people feed them less. Cut it closer. So, more meter maids making back their salaries with more tickets. So now, the city has insane street meters with fucked up baby mamas wearing uniforms ready to slap your mouth shut if you aren't keeping that thing lit up like a tree.

    Daley's salary, by the way, is said to be about $300k a year. Enough to keep the summer help at the place in New Buffalo.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    So please - pretty please with the sugar substance on top - remind yourself that with the possible exception of Montomgery, AL - Chicago is STILL #1 in corruption. Although Bloomberg, always keeping an eye for a good scam when he sees one, is thinking of fucking over Jeff's home town just the exact same way. Because, you know, he needs the money.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    You get a ticket today?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I see the maids a milkin' every day.

    I tell them "don't get Mossed", but I don't think they get me...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    What about Washington, DC? I guess that's not a city, but a district.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Gotta agree Chicago will always be the corruption capital of the US. Not sure what the rates are down there but we have the highest parking rates in Canada. $25-$35/day in a lot or $6/hour on the street (downtown). That's another reason to ride the bike to work.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    That would be more than enough incentive to ride a bike to work every day.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Canada, Canadian money doesn't count though. Silly Canuck bastards. JK.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Jebus, Canada. Talk aboot ridiculuous.

  • Lets see.... Packers player suspended, Vikings player loudly demanding a trade, yup it's a happy Wednesday!

  • All we need is for Aaron Rodgers to fall through an open manhole cover.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Wouldn't that just be a manhole?

  • The word makes me uncomfortable.

  • HenMel Henry Melton
    Lmao u stupid! RT @AO_FASHO: @HenMel can't wait till you have that meeting with rod we talked about last year, lol!
    about 3 hours ago

    I wonder what that little comment was about as Melton goes into a contract year? What does Amobi know that we don't?

  • Doc, I trust everything is OK, you're nuts aren't too sore and your pkg is being iced down. It will be uncomfortable for a couple of days and then you'll be back to your old self (only better).

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Pretty sore, due. But thanks.

    It's like you said, I've experienced way more intense pain. But there's something about nut pain that just seems to trump other kinds of pain.

  • Dude. Pretty sore Dude. (not due).

    And man. I really with the nurse wasn't so gentle with the iodine cock-n-balls rubdown. Had to seriously fight the chub sproutage.

  • wish. I really wish. Fucking pain meds.

  • You're a good man Doc. My nurse could have tried every trick in the book but there was no way she was going to raise the dead. I joked around with the Doc and nurse but there was not even a hint of sproutage (love that word).

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Damn it Doc. Can't believe you can't spread the seed anymore. That's what my post was about further up. Trying to convince you not to do it. We as Bears fans have an obligation to produce as many little Bears fans as we can. I've made my 3 so far. 3 boys too that have no choice but to root for the burnt orange and navy.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    I have three boys as well, and that's all my sanity can handle. Plus, there's a good chance that one of your loin-fruit will become Packers fans just to piss you off. So in effect, the more kids we have, the higher probability a Packers fan will be born as well.

  • That happened to my Aunt. An otherwise highly intelligent young girl, my cousin, is a Packers fan. It is the source of some consternation.

  • some?! You'd rather have her tell you she likes munching the nana.

    I guess it could be worse... she could be a fucking vikings fan.

  • Not in my house Doc. Father in law is a packer fan and always tries to give my kids packer stuff. At first it was me throwing it in the garbage but now my oldest 2 throw them on the ground and walk around on them. The youngest will but he's only 10 months. I usually don't condone my kids being ungrateful for gifts but on these occasions I let it slide.

    I was just giving you a hard time anyways. I'm done, but I got off easy. My wife had a c-section with the last one as he was 9 lbs. 10 ozs. and had the head of an adult. So the doctor asked us if we wanted the fix while she was in there. I didn't but my wife did. I would have 10 kids if I could afford it.

  • Your a good father Jab. Brainwash those youngsters while their mind is still a sponge. Teach em right from wrong.

  • Ah that nut pain
    is just in your head
    you know
    the big head
    sounds like you'll be
    ready by training camp
    on opening day of camp go ahead
    and wheel out the toy cannon
    and fire all of your guns at once
    happy to hear
    you are beyond the horror

  • On the subject of All-22. Think about something else for a minute. One of the classic examples of "bad" monopoly behavior is intentionally keeping the best products off the market to control consumer behavior. I have no idea what the NFL's negotiations with the major networks looked like recently, but I have to wonder if there wasn't some pressure from companies like ESPN to get access to that video.

    If the NFL didn't release its best quality media product, there would be an opening for an anti-trust lawsuit from a radically different angle than what the players have been threatening.

  • Just for fun. 4 Tier ranking of NFC teams.

    Tier 1 (serious superbowl contenders):
    - NYG
    - Green Bay
    - Chicago
    - 49rs

    Tier 2 (playoff contenders)
    - Detroit
    - Dallas
    - Atlanta

    Tier 3 (dark horse contenders):
    - Philly
    - New Orleans
    - Carolina
    - Arizona
    - Seattle
    - Washington

    Tier 4 (Rebuilding)
    - Minny
    - Tampa Bay
    - St. Louis

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I would bump philly up one but the rest is spot on.

  • AFC Teams. Steelers and Ravens took a hit because they're getting older. Texans are ranked high because I expect Shaub to be healthy this year. Making this list, the NFC much more dangerous for the next couple of years. If Luck is legit and the Colts improve their defense, the Colts could be back. Plus some fo the dynasties always seem to find a way. But I see a lot of teams on the downswing on this side of the bracket.

    Tier 1 (Superbowl Contenders)
    - Patriots
    - Texans

    Tier 2 (Playoff Contenders)
    - Steelers
    - Ravens
    - Denver
    - Tennessee
    - Cincinatti

    Tier 3 (Dark Horse Contenders)
    - NYJ
    - Buffalo
    - Kansas City
    - San Diego

    Tier 4 (Rebuilding)
    - Miami
    - Cleveland
    - Jacksonville
    - Indianapolis
    - Oakland

  • Gentlemen, look what I found in the archives of Seattle news.
    Our own Doc made the newspaper today. Check it out!

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    This cannot be true lol Why are they putting this info out?! What's his name and now I can facebook stalk him lol

    Really. Really cool Murph.

  • First name's Doc, last name's Nitty. And I don't facebook. It may be small, but I do HAVE a penis.

    Clearly a joke, young patawan. The force is strong in you, but you are one gullible SOB.

  • Hahahaha....


    They can stop the flow of verility, but they can't bust your big nuts!

    Very glad you're ok and that it wasn't as bad as you thought. I can't decide whether my current situation makes it more probable I'll also get it done or less. Hmmmmmm....

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Hilarious! Remind me every now and then not to make you mad.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    I would think that was real, but they debated?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    You been talking to your mom again, rabbit?

  • Hehehehehe

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    That was some funny shit.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    HOLY SHIT, mang. Fucking hilarious.

  • I know you have a great sense of Humor Doc, hope you are feeling well.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Thanks man. It wasn't as bad as what you and your wife are probably dealing with, but is was a pain in the balls.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    the find of the millenium
    the mathman gets no hometown respect

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    I didn't include 3 teams in my NFC tiers above, as original question ignored the Western division. However, some tiers for the AFC are as follows (as I believe there will be some bounce backs from unexpected teams this year)

    Tier 1 (Superbowl Contenders)
    - Patriots
    - Ravens
    - Steelers
    - Chargers - bounce back

    Tier 2 (Playoff Contenders)
    - Texans
    - Broncos
    - Bills
    - Jets - bounce back

    Tier 3 (Dark Horse Contenders)
    - Bengals
    - Chiefs

    TIer 4 (Rebuilding)
    - Titans
    - Raiders
    - Dolphins
    - Colts
    - Browns
    - Jaguars

    I also try to factor in scheduling as much as relevant. For example, with the AFC East facing the 2 weakest divisions (NFC West and AFC South), the Bills and Jets may surprise in wild card competition.

  • In reply to Pete Wilberscheid:

    Looks like we mainly disagree on San Diego and Tennesee. I have to be honest, I don't really know a ton about either team.

    I ranked SD on the low side because their offense is losing steam rather than picking it up, and they haven't done anything to make me think their special teams or defense will make great strides. I think Denver and KC will be better contenders for that division title. Plus, San Diego is one of those teams that everyone thinks is a contender every September. But when was the last time they really threatened to reach the Superbowl?

    Tennesee has a couple of solid, in unspectacular QBs in the stable, which is enough to be competitive. The rest of their roster makes me think they've got the juice to compete. Solid running (even if CJ2K can't break 2000 again, he's still good for 1000). Solid D. They're not superbowl contenders, but they can get the wins they need to make the playoffs. Obviously Houston is my favorite to win the division, but if they sputter, Tennessee is the team that will step in to fill the void. Keep in mind, they beat the Texans last year (in week 17) as well as the Ravens, Bengals and Broncos (all early season wins, but against eventual playoff teams).

  • Hey, where the heck Trac been?

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Bible camp? On the road with Mitt Romney? Protesting a soldiers funeral with anti gay slogans.
    ah I keeeed .. I keeed!


  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Been wondering that myself.

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    Probably '93 was the last year for the Chargers. But, that's the thing, just when evryone gives up on them, they come out of nowhere to win it all.

    I believe that Rivers' 20 interceptions last year was an exception, not the rule. Plus, I can see Mathews having a big year, provided he stays healthy, which also helps Rivers. Peyton Manning is a huge risk, and KC is counting on too many injured players coming back.

    With the AFC South, I see the schedule working against them. The NFC North may be the toughest division in the NFC, with the AFC East a close second to AFC North. I wouldn't be surprised if Texans go 0-3 against Bears, Lions, & Packers - especially since CHI & DET are road games. They have too much uncertainty with their passing game. Likewise, I don't see Titans, Jaguars, or Colts piling up many victories against the top 3 in NFC North, or top 3 in AFC East for that matter. Losing Cortland Finnegan could hurt the Titans significantly.

  • In reply to Pete Wilberscheid:

    Those are fair points, and I didn't consider scheduling in my tiering. But I think you are giving the AFC East too much credit. Miami and the Jets are both very beatable this year. And Buffalo, despite having some real players on the roster and a solid coach, is also not a terrifying opponent. I think the Pats win that division easily this year (11+ wins if Brady stays healthy), the Bills contend for a wildcard and finish ahead of the Jets, but good teams will get wins there.

    AFC North is dangerous. AFC South is probably on par with the AFC East. And AFC West has 4 teams that all are at least threatening to be decent at this point.

    At this point, I'd call the NFC North the toughest in the league. And I'd call the NFC East and AFC North as 2nd place.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I think NFC North has the best QB situation in the league. I am not convinced we have the best defense situation in the league(Miny, Lions are questionable).

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    With Cutty, Rodgers, Ponder and the Lesbian - those are 4 QBs who can make "all" the throws the NFL requires.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I think the Bills are way better than you give them credit for. Their Harvard QB has weapons, Fred Jackson is back - their draft included Gilmore and Cordy Glenn and their owner is dying.

    I have them taking the division.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And the Pats added Mister Fantasy, Brandon Lloyd - as their big offseason FA? I'm sorry, but I'm not impressed. I also their lack of a big time back was exposed in the Super Bowl and don't see how they put it all on Brady again, even if they made upgrades to the OL.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I really like the Bills, but they have defensive liabilities that came out as the season went on last year. I agree with you that they're going to be in contention, but I think the Pats are still a really solid team.

    New England's O-line will take a step back with Matt Light retiring, but they were probably the best O-line in the playoffs last season. And their defense is stout, with two new first round rookies that DBB loved. They lack the WR depth of the Moss/Welker days, but they've got the two TE attack going for them and that counts for something. Tom Brady won't break records this year, but I think with an improved pass rush and solid D, they won't have to.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    NB, I never thought I'd actually have to say this to YOU, but...

    don't feed the troll.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I don't feed troll posts, but I don't mind engaging folks in football discussion even if they root for another team. I apply the same policy to Big Cheese.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    In the end they always end up being trolls NB. A few posts of good behavior does not a citizen make.

    A troll is a troll unfortunately.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    This axiom has been borne out at DBB time and again:

    they may start like they are reasonable and want to talk Xs and Os, but their inherent doucheyness simply overcomes them and they douche out eventually.

    This has been proven by science. The Doucheyness trait is held in check by willpower and willpower fades.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    100% GP

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:


  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • Jacksonville has signed former Bears QB Nate Enderle. Enderle was released last week at conclusion of three-day minicamp.

  • Hmm.... I thought Martz was unemployed - is he with Jacksonville?

  • Sometimes the Google algorithm does what it was originally intended to do, which is to tell you what the level of interest there is in a webpage that contains your keyword search, either by direct link or associated link. For the All-22 stuff, it came up with this, a really good article on the subject by Grantland, a great website:

    It makes it sound like if Boy Roy pays the money, he can youtube the footage. It would be pretty damn pointless if you couldn't.

    And the article points out something I noticed with Roy: some of his observations and conclusions were full of shit, because he was assuming what a given players responsibility was on a play. Which is unavoidable. Which is why ex-player commentators are such whitebread POS most of the time, because they are loathe to be critical not knowing what the playbook actually says.

    But, what the guy at Grantland says is right: That is OK. In fact, it is good and well and worked great for the NBA. And the coaches and shit who feel All-22 just opens them up to criticism they don't want or need: cry me a fucking river. Yes, many InterWebz opinions are shit, because ITS THE INTERWEBZ! The Interwebzzies invention polarized the American body politic and destroyed the journalism major at most universities. Way to go Tim-Berners Lee! Give us back your Knighthood, you wank! This invention of yours sucks it!

    Oh wait - no it doesn't. It singlehandedly transformed the flow of information and knowledge in the world to a totally new system and is arguably as important as the printing press. Sorry about the wank thing.

    So, I'm hoping Roy gets re-use rights with his $70. Even if he's half cocked on microbrew, it will be fun to look at what he sees and decide for ourselves.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    "The Interwebzzies invention polarized the American body politic and destroyed the journalism major at most universities."

    Awesome stuff, GP. Although I suspect the journalism major destruction was as much a fault of the NEA and the internet.

  • Saints announce their interim head coach for the 2012 season:

    This year should go much better...

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Go get me Juice boxes!

    (How Mike didn't get an Oscar for this, I will never know)

  • In reply to gpldan:

    "I'm not crazy, I'm just thirsty!"

  • In reply to gpldan:

    was that secret film from one of the saints practices last year?

  • There really was a willpower science experiment at MIT.

    They brought students into a nice room with fresh baked chocolate chip cookies that smelled great. They put the cookies on the table, and if you drew a red chit you could have cookies, a blue one and you had to eat radishes. They used a camera to make sure nobody cheated. They told the students this was the test. Of course, nobody cheated and the radish eaters nibbled at their radishes.

    What they did next was the actual experiment. They brought them into another room and gave them a written test. It was one of those tests where you don't pick up your pencil and you have to connect all the dots. But - they made the test impossible - it couldn't be done.

    The people who "used up" their willpower on radishes gave up, on average, in 4 minutes. The cookie eaters gave up, on average, in 12.

    This is how I feel about DBB Trolls. Give them the radish, not the cookie. Eventually, you will see the troll come out - just sooner.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    excellent. Love that shit... torture people legally... and unbeknownst to them.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    What's interesting to me about that is the apparent conclusion that willpower has a shelf life (for lack of a better way of putting it). I know that I personally had to use every oz of willpower I could muster to get my doctorate in math. And since I've finished, it's been much harder to will myself to do certain things that were previously not a problem for me. I had always anecdotally surmised that my will power must have gotten 'all used up'. Now I wonder that even more.

  • I've been looking at schools for my son recently and learned something interesting about the philosophy of educating 6 year olds.

    Any adult who wants to succeed in life needs to have the ability to behave properly (dress properly, stand in line, sit nicely in a group). But the same is true for being able to think intelligently and cooperatively (logical thinking, effective communication, general knowledge). You can say that some jobs require more than others, but generally speaking 6 year olds have work to do across the board.

    So you have some schools that put a lot of focus on teaching 1st graders to have good behavior. This can be done in a really positive way, I'm not talking about evil nuns smacking you with rulers, I'm talking about fun class activities designed to get kids to sit at their desks, walk in line, and take turns. But these schools devote a lot of time and energy to these tasks, and as a result, the kids have less energy available for difficult tasks like learning to read, learning basic math, learning basic geography. Its a trade off.

    You have other schools that put a lot less focus on decorum. So kids sit all over the room; they all talk at once; they frequently get up and run around. And the school adjust to this with "sensory equipment" and "work stations" to try to teach the children in a much less focused environment. The net result is that the kids have more energy when they do engage, and an effective teacher can cover more material by not bothering with the structure. The only down side is that the kids don't yet have the structure when they need it.

    So the first group of schools say they like their system because the kids learn how to be good students. And a room full of good students can accomplish a lot more than a disorganized bunch of geniuses. Plus, as the kids get older, the math and reading are easier, so they catch up without a problem and the good behavior becomes second nature.

    The second group of schools say they like their system because the kids learn more. As they get older, the good behavior comes easier. Plus, they feel more comfortable with the material, so the confidence makes them less likely to get distracted and need to wander.

    The truth? Both schools are right. There is no correct answer, it depends on the kid. It depends on what the kid is capable of now, what skills you anticipate will "take care of themselves" down the road, and where you feel you will get the best bang for your buck at the moment. But one thing is clear... you can't do both.

    6 year olds have only so much will-power. If you want them to expend their energy on learning, they won't behave. If you want them to expend their energy on behaving, they won't learn. Both skills are important, so each school finds its balance.

    I'm just thankful that radish eating isn't a common homework assignment.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Wow... what a great mini-thread. I've nothing to add... only thanks to all for putting a banquet for thought on the blog.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    all knowledge is temporal
    the most beneficial knowledge
    comes from within
    until "education" teaches one
    to find out who they are
    the human race remains lost
    and mired in the illusion
    every human started from seed
    nurture your garden
    and ferilize it with love and gratitude

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I'd want the place that teaches kids how to think for themselves as well as finger painting. What's that kind of radical shit known as?

  • To NB, since the blog is screwed up, how about a novel idea for education? Why not Government funded schools instead of Government run schools? Let the parents decide, and hold the schools accountable, like a democracy. I have no kids, but it's an issue dear to my heart. A fundamental truth of life is that everyone is self-interested. Even a dumb parent knows when their kid is receiving a bad education most of the time. Anyone on here who is satisfied with the current state of results in education is delusional. Here's a couple graphs.
    Disclosure: When the Cato Institute started in the late 70's or 80's, the Koch Brothers were major contributors.
    Two observations I seen from the graphs:
    1) The number of K-12 education teachers in the US has increased by almost 100% since 1970, and the number of students has increased by 8.5%.
    2) It's almost 3am, and my mind is spent. Draw your own conclusions.
    In conclusion, people aren't any smarter of dumber than they were 40 years ago, we just spend 3x the money on educating them through High School.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Three things on that article.

    1) I agree, public schools are not doing a good job at this point in time. There needs to be major change to fix this or we will fall behind in the global race.

    2) The first chart (employment vs. enrollment) is deceptive. I don't know how they quantify the two numbers, but I guarantee you that ratios have not been cut in half in classrooms. So they aren't just counting teachers. More importantly though, I have to wonder if the population of Chicago really only increased by 8.5%. I'm pretty sure the city's population (and the global population, and the US population) all grew much faster than that.

    3) The second chart (test scores vs. spending) is also deceptive. It doesn't adjust for inflation, which would level out the spending line quite a bit. It doesn't adjust for the higher standards over the last 40 years. Science, for example, has gotten a lot harder. That's the problem with standardized tests mind you, they aren't standardized. But there's a lot of data being covered up by that chart.

  • In reply to TheFifth:


    When you add more people (educators, administrators, etc.) to a flawed system, the result will be a flawed system with a bigger bureaucracy. More bureaucracy means actually changing the system will be harder.

    In my opinion, the problem with public education is the carrot. If you want to attract the best, brightest, and most innovative minds to educate our children, you have to do better than the ridiculous pay they're offering people to teach.

    I can honestly say that I teach because I love academia. I love being around people who want to learn and better themselves. And while many students are not truly there for anything more than the diploma, or because their parents told them to, there are always a few students who really are striving for greatness. That is my carrot (plus tons of vacation time and not having a boss tell me what to do (the freedoms afforded a Ph.D.)). But by in large, most people choose to be teachers because it's easy and because they're simply not good enough to go where the big bucks are being offered. So, rather than pumping money into the system in the form of more administrators and more avg joe teachers. If we would offer compensation that was say, $100K to new teachers, the system would attract the bright and innovative minds that might otherwise opt for Microsoft or some other company.

    This is why private schools are better. They pay their teachers more and actually let them do what they're supposed to do; be innovative. Public teachers are told to teach the status quo and not upset the apple cart. And many have to have two jobs just to pay the bills, using up their willpower on their day-to-day lives rather on than on becoming a better teacher.

    The other major problem with our education system is the parents. Most families have two parents that both have jobs and lead busy lives. Again, their willpower is used up trying to just make it, trying to just feed and provide safety for their families. Hence, parents don't do their job, which is to supplement what their kids learn at school with their own teachings at home. I blame nobody, it's just the way our country is right now. It's hard to do all the idyllic things we had in mind to do as parents when we were younger. Life is hard. The way around that? I can't say for sure, but for me and my family, we drive one car, don't have cable, shop at used clothing stores and garage sales and such, so that we don't have to have two jobs. This way, my wife can be there to supplement my kids education. Plus, the free time I'm afforded after getting my doctorate means I'm home more with the kids too. I basically work from 9 to 3 for 8 months of the year. In short, it's as much the parents fault as it is the schools. Or our society's in general

    Again, this is just my anecdotal opinion.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I watched a few documentaries on world education recently, one was American-specific. 'Waiting for superman'. Scary stuff. In California I think it was, they spend 137K a year per prisoner. Per student? A whopping 7K is spent on every student in CA. That's what happens when you put cyborg weight-lifters in office.

  • Narcissus returns to Chitown:

    Football Live: EA Sports Madden NFL 13 Launch

    Watch NFL greats Brett Favre and Jerry Rice compete in a skills challenge (Tonight 6p) and flag football game (Fri noon.)

    Winner's circle: If your team wins, you win a coupon for a free copy of the new EA Sports Madden NFL 13 video game.

    Tonight-Sat. Grant Park, 600 S. Columbus Drive, Loop (323-570-0029). Free.

  • Man, this blog has it's technical issues, but it has really come a long way...

  • jesus that was a shit show. i didn't show up until 2009 or so but damn.

  • September '08 was the earliest post I could find from myself under my former name Nittygritty34. I know I had been reading it for at least a few months before that.

  • I certainly don't fight or argue as much as I used to. I guess I'm a kinder, gentler Shady.... Except when I'm playing you guys on the PS3. Then it's own.

  • doc, how are your balls this lovely thursday?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ornamental, dude. Ornamental.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    that was truly funny

  • indeed. Well played dave

    Kinda like one of those pepper bushes you get at the supermarket:

    They look nice, but are totally useless.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Not that it matters, but I think Dave got that from my new handle.

  • My take? Parents need to be the ones teaching manners and good stewardship to their kids. It's not the schools job.

  • In reply to MB30SD:


    Left nut is more sore than the right. Uncomfortably at times, but all in all, it hasn't been too bad. Thanks for asking.

    So now that you'll be dipping into some strange again, down the road of course, does the snip snip seem more inviting or less? I would think less, but then again, not having to where a condom is key.

  • wear

  • I actually pondered that above somewhere.

    I think I'll leave it alone for now Doc. Never know... but at this point I hate the thought of having 'new kids' and what that would feel like to my 'old kids'.

    I'm resonably sure I'm done because I have two perfect little ones (kids not nuts... although...) and I'm already fucking old. I don't know, it's all a fucking storm in my head right now, clarity will come with some time and healing. Btw, how long does it take to get over a 15 year relationship?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    How long does it take to get through a bottle of bourbon?

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    just one?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Sorry you're in a hard time, MB. Although it sounds so cliche...

    this too, shall pass

    I expect at times it will come back. It does for me. Some days, I really, really miss that gal I loved - the mother of our children. But the one universal truth is that life goes on, compadre.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    thank you dave, I appreciate it my man.

    And your words are very true. Sorry for your loss man.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    make love
    not war
    during this saga of your story
    you need tol be acting more akin to your heartrythyms
    which will produce an inner peace
    do not take the rolloer coaster ride seriously
    become the observer
    and keep your distance from
    immediate response
    you are still the leader in your tribe
    and you need to show a calm resolve
    to do the best you can to remain that
    constant presence of loving stability
    for your children and family
    they will learn much from you now
    as you show them how to live through adversity
    if this bothers you
    it's O.K. to tell me to Shut the F*CK UP
    but, my heart is sad for you
    and I want your mind to find peace

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    thank you hunti, I appreciate it.

    Also sending the same thoughts MBPs way.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hey MB, I stayed in a marriage about 10 years too long (20+ years total). It made it easier when I got divorced but it was a lot of time I could have used for a better life. If it's over you're better off not looking back. If there is a way to repair it, don't be too hasty.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    thanks canada... smart words.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Are you breaking up dude? I've been out of the mix, mostly because my old lady has pretty much moved out too and doesn't want to look after her kids anymore. Sorry to hear mang. Swings and roundabouts bro.

  • Jebus. What is going on with everybody? She just left you and her kids? WTF?

    Hang in there, mang.

  • Irish, really sorry to hear that. I'm sure you're a great father but kids need their mother. That really bites it. Hang in there brother and hopefully she comes to her senses.

  • Damn - sorry to hear that, maing.
    What a shitty offseason.

  • DOc, you're not gnawing at the stitches like a dog are you? I'll chip in to get you one of those cones.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    Good one JAB, good one.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    Ha! No, but it is starting to itch like I have ball fleas.

  • to remove the fleas
    shave one half of the forrest
    get an icepick ready
    then light the other half of the woods on fire
    stab at the fleas with the icepick as they run for their lives
    that sensation in the sack will not bother you again

  • #Bears kick off preseason vs. Peyton and #Broncos 7 weeks from today at Soldier Field.

  • 7 weeks seems like a lifetime. Please god no fucking injuries to our main guys in camp.

  • I'm now measuring time by football. I need therapy.

    Hey Artoo, sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, but I got inexplicably sick this week, but am feeling a little better now.

    Also, I'm trying to figure out how best to offer suggestions, edits, etc over the internet. I can't exactly cross words our, or insert punctuation with over gmail...hmmmm...will have to figure that out.

    But you stand on pretty solid writing skills, so it'll just be mainly stream lining and tweaks anyhow.

  • Thanks amigo. Just try to offer all the suggestions you can and what can help me improve on it.

    You can always highlight or underline.

  • What can help me improve as a writer. Sorry. Between writing and helping my fiance's sister's wedding. Hectic.

  • The main factor was my inate disdain for latex and my passion for raw-dogging.

    If you don't get her pregnant it's easier to leave her.

  • In reply to Crown:


  • It's all lasers and Victoria's Secret catalogues and a Greek chorus of feminists chanting now. They've pussified vasectomies. I was hoping for some contact from the bad old days of Ghandi's forced sterilization programs in India in the '70's with rusty needles and scalpels, that sort of thing. I had some itchy balls and some coagulated blood build-up for a couple weeks, but that was it. I had a nurse from the south, who told me I had a nice rope though. Never heard that one before.

    I got snipped when I was 19. I was 100% sure I was never going to spawn and I wanted to sleigh as much pink as possible without impregnation. It was great for many years.

    Recently, I had it reversed which was even easier.

  • In reply to Crown:

    Wow, Crown. That's a damn big decision for a 19 year old. You can decide if never want to procreate at 19, or fight a war, but you can't drink alcohol.

  • In reply to Crown:

    holy fucking shit crown. that's one helluva decision to make at 19.


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    doc, you and me connected at the mind today or what maings?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That's fucking commitment bro. Nice one crown. I'm now a single daddy of twin babies with a teaching job. Freedom is gold.

  • In reply to Crown:

    "who told me a I had a nice rope........"


  • I find my literary judgments greatly lowered when a woman has her hands on my industrial size naval rope...,r:13,s:0,i:113

  • god I love big breasts.

  • In reply to Crown:

    Crown I bet you were a blast to hang out with in those days.

    Nice Rope!

  • In reply to Crown:

    Crown's post just make a me sick. Misoginistics have no place in free country. Why go against g-ds plan? I thought this was web blog about football.

  • In reply to BlitzKrieg:

    This blog is most definitely not JUST about football. I don't think you have to be a misogynist to want to sleigh a lot of pink. As for g-ds plan, if you're in the 'g-d' camp, you might find yourself offended more than just a few times. There are others like you, but by and large, most of us are agnostic at best, athiest at worst.

    My advice, don't go into a strange community and start throwing around judgements. You'll just find yourself alienated and ridiculed. And hey, you may even earn a new nickname, Like uh, #17 for example.

    Besides, doesn't your handle connote a certain war involving mass execution of the Jews? You realize there are a few people from the tribe on here, don't you?

  • You misunderstand me sir. I am here to talk about the Bears and other subjects. I apologize for offending you. I am a new member of this blog. Blitz Krieg is for a mighty Chicago Bears defense and many quarterback sacks!

  • While it's waaaay to early for power rankings, some teams I just won't believe in until they lift the lombardi.

    Here's Butch's "Never Gonna Happen" annually over-hyped team

    The Cowgirls Without fail, droves of journalists are going to try to convince you that THIS is their year. They will point to the "talented players" and "underrated" Romo who has the 2nd best QB Rating of all time. To this, Butch says, "Never gonna happen". Something always goes wrong in big D, and I'm beginning to suspect that Al Davis like Emperor Palpatine didn't really die, but just transferred bodies and is now inhabiting Jerry Jones.

    The Powder Blue Chargers Their window is closed, shut, soldered, kaput. However, that won't stop "experts" from pointing out how weak their division is, and how they always rally in December. They'll argue Rivers is elite, and that's enough. To this Butch says, "WRONG." Living in the L.A. area, I had to put up with watching these clowns for far too long (thank you pirate internet). They are NOT clutch. Their D is no longer the Merriman lights out D it once was. LT has retired, last time I checked. And last but definitely not least, NORV TURNER is their HC. 'Nuff said.

    The Santa Claus Booing Eagles It's not always sunny in philly, and that's usually because Vick is nursing some sort of injury. But it's not just Vick. The bigger underlying, and I do mean BIG, and FAT, and UGLY, problem is Reid. His time is up (see Joe Gibbs). There comes a point when a team must decide that making the play-offs or sniffing it isn't enough. That just leads to decades of mediocrity and heart break. Nevertheless, those paid prognosticators will try to convince you with a straight face that "this is their year." Third verse same as the first. I will never believe in this team. I don't care what BS logic columnist try to sell me. This team just collapses like a Double-Double under ole Walrus' husks.

    Honorable mentions.

    Falcons (chokers), Lions (douches), Bills (Bills).

  • While well said I still must award you the title "Captain Obvious."

  • I call Captain Cock Block! Can I give myself a title?

  • Yes, but the more remarkable aspect is that those teams are spending MILLIONS of dollars trying to win the SB, and they still can't figure it out.

    More amazing, that there's still some saps willing to believe in those teams year after year after year...It's understandable if you're a homer for one of those teams, but if you go to Vegas with them, well, house always wins for a reason.

    Just needed to vent since I see we're in Power Ranking season already...Jebus...7 weeks and counting...

  • And this is exactly what every other fan thought about us under Angelo.

  • There is a difference Sac. NO ONE ever picked the Bears as favorites to win the SB. The year we went to the SB and NFCC, we were the underdogs, as always.

    I kinda like it that way better anyhow.

  • Hey Trac -

    Did you see Prometheus? When I saw it, you know, the meaning was debated and all that. The planet they landed on was LV-223. In Alien, it was LV-426.

    Just on a hunch, I googled Leviticus 2:23. I got this:

    "Say to them: 'For the generations to come, if any of your descendants is ceremonially unclean and yet comes near the sacred offerings that the Israelites consecrate to the LORD, that person must be cut off from my presence. I am the LORD."

    And that, right there, is the meaning of the movie. Not bad, huh? I thought you'd be proud of me.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    BTW, Leviticus 4:26 makes complete sense if you think about the Alien's blood from the original films, as well. Just not as relevant to this movie. That Ridley Scott guy, he's clever.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And he shall burn all his fat upon the altar as the fat of the sacrifice of peace offerings and the priest shall make an atonement for him as concerning his sin and it shall be forgiven him

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm missing the connection. Why is buring fat on the alter as an atonement connected to corrosive blood?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Did you watch Prometheus? I dont want to spoil anything for you.

  • No, and I doubt I will. But I thought the 4:26 reference was to Alien.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Well, their body fat burns. Maybe a stretch.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Alien has a lot of allegory as well.

    The ship's computer is called Mother. Ash, the android, says to Ripley:

    "You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you? Perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility. "

    Is he talking about the Alien or about man? After all, he was created by man. The Priest making atonement for man's sin is Ripley, a woman. There is alot there.

    Prometheus just takes those ideas and kicks them into hyperdrive.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I think it was more about how the Engineers had created humans and that creation was a violation of Gods laws. So they sent the Alien to destroy that which they found to be an abomination and make atonement.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Prometheus took a great idea and churned out a boring script which erased the key feature of the franchise. A completely wasted opportunity. Monster movies need monsters.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Not that you'd find any aliens in Prometheus .....

  • That was the ironic thing about Prometheus - I liked everything about it but the monsters. I thought they were, really, the only let-down in the whole thing.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP, Leviticus Chapter 2 only has 16 verses not 23. Not sure what google sent your way but it wasn't Leviticus 2:23

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Colon placement is everything (that's what Sandusky said. Ow.).

    Leviticus 22:3. Sorry.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    letting the scribes and pharisies
    judge cleanliness
    is akin to the Koch brothers
    telling the nation
    who is fit for office

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And the Lord said "Let there be a shit movie from a great franchise pregnant with possibility ... "

    And there was Prometheus .... and God saw that it sucked.

  • Prior to Cutler's injury, the Bears offensive line had given up an average of 2.3 sacks per game, totaling to 23 sacks in 10 games

  • awesome.... so fired up we didn't change a damn thing. (pretty much at least)

  • A packer blogger and his thoughts on Bears off season

  • Queue Jack Nicholson in a Few Good Men - you can't handle the truth!

    I will admit, Vilma's lawyers are doing a pretty good job muddying the waters here and trying to put Goodell on his heels. Won't work, but it's good combat lawyering

  • If you wanted to see him fall, see him humbled and shut up - if you knew how it would end for him - you were right and now you have your wish

  • Ramonce Taylor - evidently, that young man is a dim bulb.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    ram once? jesus, nice name... thanks mom.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Evidently Momma didn't teach her son not to put 5 lbs of weed in his car either.
    How dumb and/or high do you have to be to carry -any- weed in your car, then call the cops when it gets broken into, and allow them to search it?
    The guy is criminally stupid above all else, forget the drug conviction.

  • ridiculous and brilliant all at the same time.

  • Is Sandusky really going to fucking get away with this shit?

    Why does the adopted son come with the accusation AFTER deliberations start? How obvious is the custom picked jury for a hung result?

  • fuck man, there better be riots and mobs with pitchforks if that fucking monster doesn't get the book. I swear one of his victims should fucking shoot him in the face as he gets out of his car.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, the group of Penn State loyalists and other simpletons on the jury will not come to a decision. You know that at least one idiot will believe the completely unsubstantiated claim of "conspiracy" by all of the defendants to get a pay day.

    That's right, a group of 11 year olds got together over a decade ago and formed a rape accusation pact in the hopes of a successfull civil suit. Of course at the time little Tommy kept asking the other boys why they kept mentioning a suit when no one was dressing up.

    The country will lose a little bit of it's soul when he beats this.

  • disgusting.

  • My dad had an interesting theory about why the prosecution allowed some of the more die-hard PSU supporters into the jury pool - they are possibly even more vindictive against someone that they see as responsible for an attack on not just PSU but the dearly departed Joe Pa than the average schmoe.
    It's an interesting thought and it would also be a credible explanation for why folks wearing PSU gear in jury selection were permitted to go through by the prosecution.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Exactly MBP. Prosecutors are banking on the ire from PSU alumns that have felt the stigma and seen the cloud of shame that Sandusky has cast over their storied institution.

    The jury has heard the loyalist sentiments, they know America is watching very carefully. I have faith they will do right.

  • Penn State will suffer to an unacceptable degree if he walks.

  • My understanding is that:
    1) the sheer number of separate counts that he is on trial for means this was not going to be over with in a matter of hours.
    2) The son was only going to be called in the even of needing to rebut Sandusky's testimony, which is one reason the defense didn't bother to put him on the stand.

    I think he's going to be in jail for the rest of his convict-shortened natural life.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    The part that I like is that the adopted son just came out so I can't wait to see the cracks start showing in little old Dottie's life too. you know she fucking knew what was going on. She is so desperate to hang on to the life she knows that she'll stand by a man who hurt kids for years. Hurt her own kids, grandkids, etc.

    The truth hurts Dot. Your husband was a true pedophile and the worst possible person. A detriment to your penn state and poison to the world. That is your family legacy. That was your husband.

  • It's so hard for me to fathom someone knowing that stuff was going on and not doing anything to stop it, but when you look at where it happened, how many years, times it happened and some of the testimony about her just letting it happen, it just disturbs me deeply.

    On a side note, he looks like a deranged Easter Bunny. (stealing a quote from Christmas Story)

  • One of the defenses arguments: "All these alleged charges only go back to the mid-'90s, so out of the blue, after all these years, when Mr. Sandusky is in his mid-50s, Mr. Sandusky decides to become a pedophile? Does that make sense to anybody? Does that make sense?"

    Uh, there has to be a first time dude. And does having sex with a kid make sense EVER?

    Another argument from the defense: ""it's not necessarily a crime for a man to take a shower with a boy. It's not necessarily a crime for a man to wash a boy's hair or lather his back or shoulders or to engage in back rubbing."
    The bottom line was Sandusky's intent, "not the child's reaction," he told the jurors, who heard eight of the 10 alleged victims testify that they were traumatized by Sandusky's alleged advances.
    In other words, "you must distinguish a display of innocent affection from lust," Cleland instructed."

    Just to be clear, if any motherfucker touches any of my kids in a shower or otherwise, I'll kill them dead. Justice system be damned.

    And finally, if anyone is surprised that this jerk-off might actually go free, they're not paying attention. We live in a corrupt society run by wolves in shepherds clothing. What surprises me is that more people haven't taken to the streets to take back our country.

  • Doc - The defenses arguments are playing off of the burden of proof and reasonable doubt aspects of criminal law. If the prosecution failed to prove intent beyond a reasonable doubt, even will all the other stuff, then they can't convict. I'm not following the case that closely, but obviously there is a lot of evidence of intent as well.

    One thing that I find sad about this whole mess, based on Doc's comment. I love rough-housing with my boys, I love giving my boys hugs and generally being physically affectionate as a father should be. And I remember as a kid that my Dad did that with me and certain friends, uncles, etc could be the same way.

    But now, I am always very careful with my sons' friends, not because I'm worried about the kids, but because I don't want anything I do to come off the wrong way to their parents.

    Not saying that the concern these parents show isn't justified, just saying that the need to worry about these bad people has fundamentally changed the way that all of us relate to one another. And that is a sad reality of raising children today.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    There is a difference between rough-housing and showering with them. Don't you think? I have no problems with another boy's father rough-housing with my boys. That shower stuff is a different story.

  • Honestly Doc, I'm not really sure. I was never an athlete in school (I was in the marching band instead), so I never got into the group showering stuff. But at the health club, everybody showers together.

    Also, in Chassidic circles you have a lot of men going to something called a mikvah, which is sort of like a public bath, and again there are kids there. So in certain social settings, even showering with somebody else's kids there can be entirely innocent and appropriate.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Again, public showering is not the point. One grown man, and one kid in a shower TOGETHER, with the grown man touching and washing the kid, is the problem. I've been to gyms and the YMCA where teenagers and men shower in the same room. That is definitely not what happened with Sandusky and that is not what I would have a problem with.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    + 1000 NB

    I used to love watching little kids play in the park (see, even that sounds wrong lol). I played in the park growing up, and it just gives me fond memories. And watching little kids interact is just fun. They do some pretty funny things. Mind you, I wouldn't do this on a daily basis, but every once in a huge while when I crossed a park and had time, I would chill for maybe like 30 min and just observe.

    Can't do that anymore. If you're a grown man watching children at a park, your son or nephew or dog better be part of the action, lest you want Chris Hanson pulling up or be like this guy

    Another example - recently, I was at the beach and just hanging out, when I noticed this little kid kinda following me everywhere. I was just taking pics, and like all kids, he was prob just curious. Anyhow, I just continued doing my thing, but snuck in a few shots of him. He was lurched over the rocky shore throwing sand at the crashing waves. It was a pretty cool shot. That kid was fearless, and his face looked like he was angry at the sea. I was going to follow him back to his parents and email them the one or two shots I had of him; thought they might like them, but then thought twice about it.

    Before all this pedophilia craze, it wouldn't have been a big deal, but now the only kids I really feel comfortable around are my nieces and nephews. Everyone else I kid at arms distance.

    BTW, is pedophilia more rampant now, or has it always been this bad just unreported? It seems waaay more prevalent now a days.

  • 24 hour news - the worst thing to happen to civilization in my lifetime.

  • In reply to SC Dave:


  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    feel the exact same way nb. terrible.


  • hey johnny, she's so fucking ugly... huh?

    btw, if you really must only have the money shot(s), start at second 48. YOW!!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Shit. I can't watch that shit now.

  • What every Cleveland fan is playing ... sad but true.

  • Sad.

  • Dude.

    Too soon.

    Way too soon.

  • Looks like he's taking a cum shower. I hate the Heat.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    I hate OKC more.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    Fuck the Heat! You can put an asterisk on this one based on the shortened season and the amount of injuries to all-star caliber players. Give Chicago a ring when you get to 6 assholes.

  • this is just sad and pathetic:

    Jab, gross man.

  • I want a stack of koozies Jeff so I hope youve made more than a dozen.
    On another note I would also like some coos. Went to singles night at the River Cats game last night. Holy cow there were a ton of ladies and some were even hitting on me. But alas they were all white and homie dont play that.

  • Gator ain't never been about that!

  • The Sac is black? Black sac?

  • Now, I will admit that I watched ESPN First Take..

    (everyone eyes roll)

    I like hearing the outrageous stuff Skip says and how they make fun of each other. That being said, Mark Cuban wins the " I made you look like shit today" award.

  • Cuban Bristle Crisis. Ha!

  • Matt Forte says talks with #Bears have been ongoing.

  • Matt Forte would not guarantee he'd report to training camp on time without a longterm deal by July 16.

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    Miss training camp and you are not my starter for at least a few weeks. 1 game for every week of camp that you miss. You'll play the 2 backs minutes.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    And get the #1 back's money, and stats. Sounds like a big win for Forte.

  • Matt Forte said he will not miss 2012 season

  • Matt Forte says things got personal when he read a report the Bears were concerned about his knees.

  • this is what we want to hear!!!

  • How is that even personal? Matt feels "disrespected" that he had to play under a rook contract which he out performed, but that's the system HIS REPS AGREED TO. If he's angry about the situation, he should be chewing out his CBA or asking them for a raise.

    Look at Harvin, he's in the same situation. Harvin has also outperformed his rook contract, and now he's grumbling about getting a raise or traded. He has TWO years left in his contract (also keep in mind that he was the 22nd pick overall, and not a 2nd rounder).

    The Vikes said, "You're not getting a raise, and you aint going nowhere", suddenly Harvin's at camp asking, "What's this about trade talk?"

    That's the stand every team should take because if not, all these rookie contracts we're all so glad get done on time mean shit cause they'd only really be 2 year deals with the 3rd year option to hold out.

  • What I want with the Forte deal.

    Really, it's quite simple. One glorious morning I want to log onto Da Blog, and read Jeff's new article entitled, "Finally, Forte Deal - DONE!" I will be relieved more than ecstatic.

    Then, when reading the details, I don't want to cringe. That's pretty much it. I just want a deal for Forte whose numbers don't make me cringe like I did with some other recent contracts.

  • and we want him to play the whole year. Cutty too.

    Just give us the trophy this year and I will be good for the next 2-4.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    now I hear a tone of sarcasm in your words?

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    not really lobo... hope, yes.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "and I will be good for the next 2-4" fuck that..

    I want back-to-back-back-to-back....bbbbbbbbbbbwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    holy sheite!!!! my blood just ran to my lower region... and I got to excited with the thought of four "L" trophies... I passed out..

  • I think the Bears got league blowback for trying to play the press with that bad knee planted leak.

    Forte is choosing to use the press and be very public, but the strategy is losing steam. We're getting tired of the "pay the man" shtick. The Bears would be wise to run silent, run deep. Stonewall the press, and work only through Stein and Forte's agent. Everything else is shit, and the Mully and Handleys already are inclined to roast Halas Hall, so why give them anything?

  • In reply to gpldan:


  • He's already screwed us though, perhaps himself too. I seriously doubt he starts week one if he doesn't get with the program soon. There's a new offense going in - has been for some time now - and Forte hasn't done jack shit with it. Michael Bush will be the work-horse for a few weeks fantasy fans .....

  • Forte told Peggy Kusinski he won't miss any regular season games. NBC Chicago learned he wants McCoy/Foster type money.


  • nice link B..o.k. so we are pissing over 2-3 mil..huh?

    "$20 million guaranteed. It is believed the Bears offered closer to $16 million-$18 million guaranteed."

    are we talking over a couple of years guarantee? front load first of a three years..

    I'm no genius on this but, it sounds that this is doable? what do you guys think?

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    "NBC Chicago has learned Forte wants a deal more along the lines of LeSean McCoy and Arian Foster, both of whom received more than $20 million guaranteed. It is believed the Bears offered closer to $16 million-$18 million guaranteed.

    Forte said he talks to the Bears on a weekly basis, but maintains McCoy's deal is the standard by which he wants to be measured."

    A. McCoy scored 20 times last year. No, that's not a typo - 17 rushing TDs is more than Forte in his entire career.

    B. McCoy is 23. Last time I checked, you get paid for future performance.

    C. "He also led the NFL with 102 first downs and 48 runs of 10-plus yards". Unlike Forte, McCoy DOESN'T get caught from behind (hence, TDs) and can be counted on to move the chains.

    D. Forte got injured seriously two years already, enough to affect his play or keep him off the field. Not to mention he got ridden like a rented mule at Tulane.

    E. The Eagles don't have Bush.

    I love Forte, but just on age alone his contract should be less than McCoy's. Factor in health, TD and 1st down production, and 16-18M guaranteed sounds about right (in fact, favorable).

  • 4E85..that's why I think it's doable...

    If 'Double Deuce" does more of the talking than his so called agent...In think the 18mil may work with some incentives.

  • those points make sense
    when looking at it from management's side
    16-18 seems well within reason
    i think matt is weakening his hard line position
    making statements saying he will play
    in every game, but miss training camp
    sounds to me like reality may be setting in
    and he will take the lesser $ offered

  • Your point B is pure bullshit. Pure, absolute bullshit.

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    In reply to SC Dave:

    You are right, if not eloquent, about 4ever85's point B above. All will see the hypocrisy of "the pay for future performance" advocates when an aging, white MLB is up for renewal come next year.

    Given that Forte has earned $17M guaranteed if franchised for two consecutive years (through no generosity from the Bears), he would be foolish to sign a longer term contract for the same guaranteed money, as all the subsequent years would put Forte in same position that MJD finds himself in now.

    16-18M is pure PR on the part of the Bears. If the other side were foolish enough to sign it, the Bears laugh all the way to the bank. On the other hand, they realize they have the local media (including Mully and Hanley) in their back pocket, so can sell the tired old "being paid more than a truck driver makes" arguments with baffling success. Finally, the fans - when confronted with a scenario where what is best for the team and player are not necessarily the same - will always side with the Bears in scenarios such as this. Pure PR. is reporting that Forte stated he will not hold out the entire season, which may put 11/13/12 in play as the next date to watch.

    Given that different reporters are reporting conflicting quotes, it's prudent to not count on one quote over the other too much.

    It doesn't add up to talk about players' leverage, but then state that no regular season games will be missed. By the time training camp starts, the only gains possible for Forte are either a 1-year deal for more than $7.7M or the no-tag clause. Even with the no-tag clause, the Bears would still have 2 months of exclusive access to negotiate a LTD at end of '12 season.

    So, if Forte misses training camp and returns back for week 1 without either of those two gains, why miss training camp?? If it is only to skip training camp, if that is his ultimate motive in all this, that reflects more poorly on #22 than anything previously mentioned. It also doesn't sound like Forte though.

  • In reply to Pete Wilberscheid:

    Doesn't matter what any fan wants - the fact is, Teams DO give new contracts based on what they think they can get from players in the future.

    "The Eagles believe they have the pieces in place to again become contenders in the NFC. McCoy doesn't turn 24 until July, giving the Eagles hope they can get a full five years of use out of McCoy, even at a rugged position like running back."

    Why else would older PBs keep signing one year veteran minimum contracts in FA?

  • Forte better be up and running by week 2, that's all I care about. I got that date circled like Rocky when he put up Drago's picture up whilst training in Siberia.



  • Not up to Matt though, is it? If he sits out camp he'll ride the bench come Spetember because he hasn't been in the offense. He'd be a liability no matter how simple an offense it is. Play football having had no reps in what, six months? Screw his bonuses, sit him and ride the gravy train on Michael Bush.

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    Good plan, Irish! I actually like it.

    The Michael Bush gravy train should be able to carry you all the way to the 11th pick in next year's draft. Or, can Bush take you all the way up to #10? #9?

  • and now something completely different..with this to be said

    "FUCK YOU LEBRON"!!.....
    & ditto to the Heat!........ Barkley too you lump of sheite!!!


  • In reply to lobotobear:

    btw...Batman & Robin would of had two to three more rings if

    FAT ARSE!!!!!!!!! Krause wouldn't of screwed the pooch!!!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Two more if Mike didn't have a gambling "problem".

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    It would have been interesting to see the Bulls play the Rockets in the finals those two years. Hakeem was playing GREAT basketball those two years.

  • Yep - but I don't think he would have been able to deal with the 18-24 team fouls that the Bulls centers/power forwards would have thrown at him every game. The Bulls' biggest issue would have been who they did NOT have at Power Forward in '94-95 between #54 and the Worm - Otis Thorpe was a beast.
    But '93-94, no way do the Bulls lose to the Rockets...

  • Just happened upon this slide show of Rock Stars Then and Now

    Some, like Bowie have aged gracefully. Others, like Dylan, not so much...

  • 4E85..Sheite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    just a celebrated my birthday three days ago and you have to bring this shiete up!!!! DAMN!!!!!

    Sad part all these rockers are from my generation.........crikey!


  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Ha Ha...happy belated Bday, man!

    Just age like Bowie and not Keith Richards! Although Richards gets a pass for merely being alive lol

  • tee hee hee

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Happy birthday, Lobo!!!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    thanks MBP

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    happy birthday brother

  • In reply to huntinbare:


  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Happy B-day Lobo. I talked to Glitchy and he said "Fuck both of you guys and your birthdays." I thought you'd like that!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Happy birthday from everybody in Ireland and the 8lb baby Jesus Lobo.

  • You back in Ireland now?

  • Spiritually Doc .. .always. Ah.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:


    Glitchy you beyouch!!!!

  • I'm gonna let the Dylan comment slide
    I do think he does Vincent Price proud
    at this time of his journey

  • Overall I thought most of them looked OK. Naturally the ones from the 80's looked better than the ones from the 60's. I saw Jefferson Airplane back in '71 and Grace Slick was very hot. Pretty scary now. Of course, I'm not exactly a stud muffin these days. Oh well. Time waits for no one.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    It certainly doesn't Canada. Although as a contemporary of hers, I'd be alright being seen with Joan Jett. More so if I could get her to ditch a little of the eye paint...

    So long as we don't have to talk about PETA.

  • does the All22 cover pre-season practices
    i would love to watch the battle for line positions
    plus it may provide me with a wooten sighting
    and give me a better understanding of the positions
    required techniques; as the coaches bark instructions to the players

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    not sure...still wondering besides $$$$$$ and the stupidity of "GoodDipshit" in all this......All 22


    now, true jailhouse justice please... let the sentencing begin.

    happy bday lobo.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    sandusky is fucked and that is the way it should be. Dottie, embrace it you fucking whorebag. You helped it happen for decades. Letting Jerry have his fun, he worked so hard, he deserved it right you fucking old fuck? I hope Penn State fucking burns. Centre County burn. Fuck'em all. It's a good night.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB...karma is an interesting thing...wait till Bubba gets his arse in the shower and they satrt singing "Jail House Rock" on his sphincter...

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    The guy is going to a minimum security facility, club fed. His life will probably be just as good if not better. They even go golfing for christ's sake. No Bubba for him.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    if you think one of the biggest child serial rapists ever to be convicted is going to a minimum security prison to play gold all day you are fucking delusional. This piece is going to federal pound you in the ass prison. This is not some white collar crime, this is mass child sexual abuse. use your head.

  • It doesn't matter what he did, if you have enough money, you're not going to a federal pound you in the ass prison, you're going to play golf all day. Use your head sir.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    it absolutely matters what he did pal. The joke is that white collar criminals go to country club prisons. Fucking child rapists, serial killers and professional grade do not go to fucking country club prisons.

    ChiRy, you have to be fucking with me, you ain't that high, you ain't that high.

  • Just watch & see what his lawyers can do. Just watch & see. Gotta love America.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Good. Now we can stop talking about it.

    Enjoy prison you fuck.

  • I just finished watching "The Grey" - sad as all fucking get out, but it connected with me right now. It was really therapeutic.
    Highly recommend it.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    i hoped you watched it through the credits

  • Why? Does it show a bunch of dead wolves? I deleted it. Shit, what happened?

  • spoiler alert:

    a simple shot of the dying breaths of the midsection of the alpha wolf like the first scene when Neeson kills that wolf in the first scene.

  • Oh man that movie had so many plot holes and logical falicies it made my head hurt. That movie was ok... for me to poop on!

  • I just want to say that I am very happy join this blog. Go Bears!

  • In reply to BlitzKrieg:

    Welcome aboard Blitz. As you can tell, it's not your normal fan blog. Lots of interesting ideas/arguments with the common thread being the Bears. I assure you, once the season starts there is more Bears talk. I'm not sure if that's good or bad. Love this place either way.

  • Tomorrow's Trib in Sports will have a special piece, a two pager with Marshall about his history of whackadoodle shit, getting right with Mister J and all that. Here the reporters discuss the piece:

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I wonder, as Brandon tries to get squared off with *both* JCs, if he sees TO down in Texas, doing the hustle and shuffle in the Arena league - down to his last $50 - praying for one last shot at the bigs and talking suicide with anyone left to listen, that Marshall is affected by this cautionary tale.

    One thing I know about the Bears: they aren't going to let Roy near Marshall. I can see no way a clubhouse cancer like Roy gets back.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Totally agree. It's a pity T.O. fucked it up so bad but he brought a lot of it on himself. The manager blowing his dough is a real fucker. Don't wish anything bad on him but still can't feel sorry for him.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Once I heard about his completely fucked up family life as a kid, I'll admit it - I have a smidge of sympathy for him now. That is the type of shit that gives people personality disorders - and he definitely has one.

  • Dusk and Dot got theirs, now it's time for the NCAA to step up and do right:

    Shut PSU Football down. Totally. Kill it.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I think it's coming. The NCAA cannot allow schools to engage in concentrated efforts to protect criminal activity by members of their athletic staffs. If it were a student-athlete that had been protected by the AD, University President, VP of Operations, and Head Football coach in the same way that Sandusky was, it would be all over but the shouting. We'll see if what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    One thing is for sure:

    The civil suits will open a whole can of whoop ass on the school. If Curley and Schultz get the perjury charge, it's game over, the civil damages will toll in the possibly hundreds of millions of dollars. The school will have absorbed a massive torpedo to the side and I can't see it righted in this generation.

    A prudent thing to do is leave them in the Big 10, but give the football program the death penalty for a decade. Start over in the 20s.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    They were an independent before - they can go conference-hunting again. As a Big10 fan, I hate that school to my bones now, particularly after the production they put on for the Nebraska game right after this all broke.

  • a long piece on Brandon Marshall
    it is amazing he has reached
    the heights he has
    considering what he took in as a child
    may he put all his critics to rest
    and find some peace
    in this crazy thing called life,0,5037690.story

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    Yeah, that was a somewhat painful read huntin. It's like Marshall was starring in "Purple Rain" instead of Prince.

    Here's but an excerpt, sound familiar?

    "While Marshall's parents were supportive — neighbors and friends recall the couple's house as the only one on the street with two parents — there was trouble at home. Marshall was not yet 2 when his dad went to jail for nine months in 1986 after he smashed a woman's face with a beer bottle in a nightclub, upset she declined to be "a whore for him," court and police reports state.

    Freddie's conflicts with his wife led to a series of protection orders. Those records allege that the day after the car incident in 1987, Freddie tried to choke Diane after she swung a knife and cut him because he threatened to kill her."

  • I would like to announce/say congratulations to Brandon Marshall of the mighty Chicago Bears. Success for him is in the plan. Coach Lovie must be careful to not provoke or offend, but to promote and nurture. I think his great size and athleticism will be effective with the lightening quick Devon Hester!

  • Soccer alert.

    England and shootout penalty kicks get along as well as Packerfans and good looks.

    As much as I wanted to see the rivalry of England v Germany, Germany would have spanked them like a bimbo in a shizer video.

    Germany and Spain looked destined to play for the European Championship, Old Champ v New Champ, old gaurd, new gaurd.

  • Question:

    In Europe, which is granted more favor: the EU Championship or the World Cup? I should think the WC, but this thing seems pretty huge.



  • The inmates are serenading Sandusky with Pink Floyd.
    "Teacher, leave those kids alone"

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    That's nuts, Murph. That POS is going to get his before too long.
    You and the missus doing ok?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Doing pretty good. She is probably back to work on the 5th. Appointment at U of C end of July so hopefully get some answers and a good course of treatment. I have a procedure on July 2, some ablation work....I'll be pacemaker dependent, but should feel better with less symptoms.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Good to hear!

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Dang Murph. Like NewBear said.. you don't have to eat polish sausages every day.

    That being said, I hope you and your wife gets better.

    Is it because we all get along which is why we are open about our problems or has 2012 sucked so far?

  • Starting with Cutty breaking his damn thumb, and many events since then, I think it has been an Annus horribilis. I have high hopes and every intention of making sure that it's about to change. However, it was also the inaugural year of the DBB draft party, so...

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    yeah... we'll see how things go from here on out rabbit. Can only go up right?

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    you and the missus can't die until you see Cutler, Lach, and Hester raise that glorious Lombardi Trophy overhead! (for the 5th time in 8 years, so you got a while)

  • Rabbit, how you hanginjg in there maings? Thinking of you man... hang in my brother.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Doing OK, maing - although I could do without the Tropical Storm down here. I come to Florida and all it does is rain. I did manage to leave Clearwater slightly ahead of the flooding today though.
    I'll be back home late Tuesday night, I think. Will have to catch up with ya on MW3.
    How're you doing?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    hangin in maings... the best one can do right?

    lets catch up online

  • Fuck soccer, give me football.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I can help with that.

    Why I think the Chicago Bears are primed to win the NFC North

  • Excellent work, I will continue to subscibe to your newsletter Grogansan.

  • In reply to Shady:

    there is no football... get your ass online and help me sleigh

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    OK Santa.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Have you guys been playing the Face-off maps? Because I plan on coming back and whipping yo asses in it in two days.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I haven't played any of them yet...I think I dl-ed them before I left on this trip. They are the 2v2 maps.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Yeah, the new maps are eh and can only be played on 2vs2. No bueno.

  • huh, that's weird.

    Rabbit, let me know how they are. Erik, just come to the darkside maings... playing against a bunch of 14 year old chicks fresh off the dance party usa floor.

  • Lol I will consider it........when the new one comes out.

  • In reply to Shady:

    That still makes me chuckle, Shady. Ho ho ho!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Not much but you actually make me lol.

  • If I haven't already recommended it, pick up "Next Man Up" by John Feinstein...yes, it's about the Ravens, and yes, it's about 7 years old...but still, it is pretty interesting in terms of the day-to-day minutiae of life in the NFL.
    And if you're a history buff, pick up anything you can find by Antony Beevor. Just about finished with "D-Day", having read "Stalingrad" and "Berlin: The Downfall 1945" a couple of years ago...he is gifted (studied under Keegan FWIW).

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I've been looking into more historical books as of late. There's only so many documentaries one can watch, and I'm pretty burnt out on reading bios.

    Posse (or anyone else), any good recommendations for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? (Length/density doesn't matter - I'm like one of the few who actually read all 3 parts to Dante's Divine Comedy, and the horrible stuff he wrote before that lol)

  • Yep, I'd love to watch a good comedy instead, but there's apparently nobody around that can make one.

    Iraq - "No end in sight." Astounding movie. Basically interviews top level American military staff who all say the same thing. There was no strategy. None. Exit strategy had not been discussed at any level.

    Fog of War - Brilliant interview of Robert McNamara. One of the best documentaries pertaining to that era you'll ever see because the man that created that era is speaking into the camera.

    Why we fight - self-explanatory

    Afghan - Restrepo? (I think) On YT there'll be a documentary or two with Ross Kemp enbedded with British troops.

    Couple of great docos on the French Foreign Legion on YT.

  • Irish lists some great documentaries...I really enjoyed "Fog of War". One of the best documentaries I've ever seen..
    I'm getting ready to read "102 Minutes" in a day or two, but that's specifically about the attack on the WTC.
    "Charlie Wilson's War" - much better than the movie.
    "Ghost Wars" is really, really good stuff.
    "Lone Survivor" is interesting - definitely a different viewpoint.
    Uhm, there's a couple I want to pick up listed below:
    1) "The Operators"
    2) "Killing the Cranes"
    3) "The Forever War"

    All of those look good.

  • fb_avatar

    Jay Cutler #8 on the list of biggest jerks in the NFL??

    Brandon Marshall #5 on the list??

    Poor Matt Forte. He must be longing for the days when the Bears built their Super Bowl contenders around players who didn't habitually beat up on defenseless women.

    I long for those days as well.

  • Don't feed it, ya'll.

  • fb_avatar
    In reply to SC Dave:

    Dave, Dave, Dave

    Don't you really mean you can't feed it??

    If needed, could you out-with a turnip? I've always said, if you have nothing intelligent to say, simply remain silent.

    In your words, "I can't feed it, ya'll"

  • In reply to Pete Wilberscheid:

    You are an asswipe.

    Consider that your Twinkie.

  • That's right Dave, if you don't have anything intelligent to say, such as inferring that Cutler and other key members of the Bears core group in addition to Marshall habitually beat women and that running back Matt Forte longs for a period of time in the past when this was not the case, then please refrain from posting.

  • Is drake the answer:?

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Matt Moore is a decent QB that got more balls to Marshall than not but I watched 2 games in particular that if paired with a better QB would have resulted in 3 more TD's and at least another 10 catches/150-200 yards simply with a better guy tossing the ball.

    I don't know if Drake is the answer but I know a more experienced Cutler and Marshall combined and the culture of the Bears will go alot farther to keep him satisfied than some guru WR coach. Bates is there to help them develop almost a custom offense to their strengths the main one being Cutler to Marshall.

  • agree

  • Well, we can hold out hope that Drake is at least better than what we've been used to in the past. QB development has hardly been a strength at Halas Hall.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Doh! Drake is not going to be the answer for that :-(

  • LACH!!!!!!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Face of the franchise...

  • In reply to SC Dave:


    I wouldn't mind putting my face in her franchise dave.

  • simple awesomeness:

  • Shout out to the one and only "Da Coach" Mike Ditka!

  • In reply to BlitzKrieg:

    This feels Troll-esque to me.

  • I was actually thinking the return of #16 Johnny.

    Def lacking in normalcy. The “uuuhhhh, yeah… creepy” antennas are up at the very least.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, i may be heading out to SD for a bachelor party in Sept. Teach me how to surf and eat fish tacos on the beach and i'll show you how to black the fuck out on rum and cokes. We'll film it and call it Blue Crush 3.

  • Awesome. deal maings.

    I do have to warn you that by then I will be full lone-wolf and can't be held responsible for… well, anything.

    Sept is by far the best month in SD, still warm (air and water), all the kooks from Arizona (sorry al) have all gone home, and the weather and everything else is just so perfect. You can do fish tacos, I’m all about the CAB (Carne Asada Burrito…. and rolled tacos with guac… oh man.)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You are always so suspicious. The spider senses always tingling in over drive!

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    very true murph.

    I don't trust humanity in general... have you watched the fucking news lately!?!

  • What are you guys doing tonight?

  • ????

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Are you busy? lol For real?

  • you're scaring me Erik. What the hell are you asking lad? Are you looking for a date… if so, I think shady’s your huckleberry.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I was going to let you know that if you had some free time, you should listen to Roy live tonight.

    I know you don't use social media's but he answers a lot of questions on his show live. Anyways, you all should check it out if you have time and see what ya think.

    Tombstone.. I should have watched that last night instead of Gladiator. I have not seen that movie in awhile.

  • gay dudes love the gladiator movies Erik... not that there's anything at all wrong with that of course.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You wanna know how I know your gay?

    Because you macramed yourself a pair of jean shorts.

  • Sigh.. what?

  • Do you know what the hardest part of rollerblading is Erik?

  • Hopefully humiliating MB to the point of RAGE quitting. Again. Maybe I should take it easy on him... Nah.

  • In reply to Shady:

    hahahahahaha... I thought you'd like that. I sent you a message but you had already logged off.

    I was chuckling to myself doing it.

    Erik, get some. And thanks for the suggestion, if I remember I'll check him out.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Shady, I really want to join you guys on your killing sprees. What is your favorite class?

    How many of you will be buying the new PS4? I am sure that will be my new console.

  • I have a question for you guys.

    What was the difference between Michael Jackson and Jerry Sandusky? Was there more evidence in one or the other?

  • Well, there was more money in one, that's for sure.

  • Biggest difference I see is that Jerry Sandusky, other than being kinda creepy, was basically a normal person except for this one (big) issue. Michael Jackson was not normal by any definition in any aspect of his life.

    I think in some respects Jerry Sandusky's normalcy worked against him.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Well, that makes me think that they let Jackson get away with it.

    What information, besides accusations, stories, and testimonies, did they use against Sandusky?

    Was there ever physical proof or valid proof?

    I'm not defending Sandusky or judging the juries decision. I just want to know how Jackson was not convicted and how Jerry was.

  • Erik, simple as this... Michael Jackson was a super duper mega entertainer and an international star that people loved.

    Jerry Sandusky is a creepy fucking disgusting old man that looks like one of those demond things in lord of the rings and who's basically a zero outside of happy valley.

    May they both get what's coming to them in trac's hell.


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Suh-weeeet bippy.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    yeeeees mbp... it's out there for you now. enjoy it... when you're ready.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    8:45 Pacific for tonight's Chicago Football Talk

    Just for you MB.

  • LINK Erik!!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

  • thanks sir


    OBR gives Artoo an almost 10 minute cyber-BJ !

  • he's giving you mad props right now Erik. Nice.

  • I thought you guys might like this:

  • you guys see this race:

    Fucking insane. Lochte CRUSHED it. Amazing. Damn, I wish I had a 50m pool to train in... that thing is siiiiick.

  • One thing is certain... yourboyroy is a BIG Forte fan.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    This is true.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    Well he *does* watch a lot of tape, so no surprise to me.

  • Starhawk is probably the best multiplayer game on the PS3, and by association, the best console MP game there is right now. That is all.

  • In reply to gpldan:


  • MB30SD said 7 hours, 47 minutes ago
    In reply to Artoo (Aka Big McLargeHuge ):

    Do you know what the hardest part of rollerblading is Erik?

    Ahem. Telling your parents you're gay ...?

    (bows to thunderous applause)

  • nice to have you back Irish. Where in thee fuck have you been maings?

    btw, you coming to the game on the 16th?

  • new thread

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