First Round Draft Party in Chicago Finalized!

First Round Draft Party in Chicago Finalized!

We are now, almost insanely, only one week away from the the NFL Draft. In case you haven't noticed I have spent more time on the Saints bounty situation and NFL fan conduct test than the draft itself. Why? Because they're real issues, not guessing games. I am more interested in what positions Phil Emery and the new Bears regime draft than in which players they draft. I am more interested in my draft party than either.


Cortland's Garage. 1645 West Cortland Street. Bucktown.

For a map of location, CLICK HERE 


Thursday night, April 26th

Festivities begin at 7:00 pm CT (Registration for ticket contest begins at 6:30 pm)


If you purchase a $5 raffle ticket, you are eligible to win two (2) lower tier tickets to the October 28th Bears vs. Panthers game at Soldier Field. (You'll be attending the game with me.)

  • Once you purchase that $5 raffle ticket, you'll also have the opportunity to buy a wristband entitling you to a $25 open bar (cheap beer, wine, well drinks) from the second the Colts go on the clock (to wait a ludicrous 15 minutes to pick Andy Luck) until the final pick of the round is made. Last year this was nearly four hours. $30 bucks for four hours of boozing and a chance to win a pair of rather expensive game tickets is a nice deal if you ask me.
  • You can buy as many $5 raffle tickets as you wish.
  • Over the course of the round each participating patron will have opportunities to improve upon their chances to win the raffle by guessing various selections.
  • You can buy raffle tickets right up until the final team goes on the clock. I will be pulling the name of the raffle winner as soon as the final pick of the first round is made. You MUST BE IN THE BAR to collect your prize. (It won't be tangible tickets, of course.)
  • There will also be a few prizes and giveaways throughout the night. The folks over at The Sports Bank are donating a vintage Michael Jordan Wheaties box and a 91-92 SI with Jordan and Phil Jackson on the cover.
  • We'll be premiering the 2012 DaBearsBlog t-shirt - which is awesome - that night and selling koozies for $5 a pop. (The shirt will be available to order on this site shortly thereafter. I will not have them purchase at the bar, I don't think.)

So come by and join me from 6:30 pm CT on. Have a beer. Get yourself a raffle ticket and a koozie. And we shall all await Phil Emery's selection of the next great Chicago Bear. This post will stay atop the site until then, barring any major Chicago Bears-related developments.

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  • Wish I could be there. Have a drink for me.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    2nd the emotion/notion.

    All of you must wear zubas, with coach 'staches and name tags with your handle

    MB30s could be "JA got terminated on my Bday!"

    You guys should also although do Jager shots everytime LegoHead Kiper says, "I like this kid..."

  • Also,

    JEFF, skype that shit!

    Just ask if it's cool with everyone, maybe us who live a bit too far (Spanish Bear, that dude who lives in Belgium, Thailand Irish) can watch it and drink along whilst skyping...

    Just a thought.

  • A live web feed would be awesome.

  • I for one am not bringing my laptop anywhere near the bar.

    Someone with more disposable income will have to play that game of roulette.

  • Butch if they did that everyone would need about $100 and a cab ride after all that Jager. Woo-Hoo!

  • Hmm, I'm only a 12 hour flight away and my boss is on emergency leave. Can I sneak over without anyone noticing?

  • I AM planning to try and be there for the home game against the packers mid-dec.

    IF we're contenders and this game if for all, or some piece, of the NFCN.... I WILL make this game.


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'll definitely try to make it out for that game, what flights.....

    oh, sorry, I live 20 minutes from soldier field.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:


  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Spiritually, I live IN Soldier Field. So there's that.

  • It's beginning to look like the North Division may get busted up. If the queens ended up heading west, get ready to say bye bye queens, hello lambs. Division restructuring will almost certainly have to take place, wouldn't it?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I love how a football league can have talks with the local government. Football is powerful.


    solid LB pickup. another piece in the puzzle filled in by Emery. Boner started to grow.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    excellent. I loooove depth...

    yes jerry, please go and look it up on the interwebs. It's spelled, d-e-p-t-h.

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    In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Can we go a day without a reference to your junk... :)

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    no, usually not.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    technically I was referring to our collective bears boner but have to admit I was also referring to my personal bears boner.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Did we sign him to make him a strong safety - 6-1, 226?

  • no, Geno Hayes is the black Pisa and you will love him. A faster Roach with an attitude and more aggression.

  • anyone interested?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    my man Aqib is going to jail mang. He gone. Trial is in June.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    I'd trade a new Nike Patrick Mannelly jersey for him, on the off chance that Aqib pulls the triple-Lutz of avoiding jail time AND not pistol-whipping someone else in the next ten months.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    like the court balif?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Let's not get crazy - I should have said "a team-mate". I'm sure everyone else is fair game.

  • Hey Johnny... you watchin' the fights this Sat? Going to be a goooooood one maings.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    that would depend on whether a link to a feed will appear mysteriously or not

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    hahaha... I'm sure someone will hack one of our accounts that night. Always seems to happen. Strange really.


  • I know shady loves Mel Gibson, here's a new one for you my man:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Man, Mel is nuts. He's gone crackers.


  • He's always been nuts; his family is steeped in batshit crazy.
    He was just successful at hiding it until TMZ and the Internet brought it out in the open.

  • Why does Eszterhas go to his house if they're feuding? To stitch him up knowing Mel's got problems, he's pissed off because they're not making Joe's crappy movie so he can add it to all the other crappy movies he's ever made.

    Mel does sound like he's in alcohol hell though.

    'Tim' is my favourite Gibson movie. There, I said it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think he has demons. No, really.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    When this guy, Hutton Gibson - an ardent holocaust denier and general hater of homosexuals and mainstream Catholics, is your dad, it is somewhat unsurprising that you turn out to be a psychotic anti-semite.

    The apple did not fall far from the tree.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Oh, and he also believes 9/11 was an "inside job", so he's batting 1.000 in the dipshit derby.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    i read a bit and decided that this guy could take the fun out of a blowjob whilst bungee jumping whilst eating ribs.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    MMMMMMMmmmmm..... riiiiiibs.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    He would find some way to deny the blowjob could possibly exist, that the bungee cord was manufactured by the Rothschilds and tied to the Federal Reserve, and your ribs were those of a young child.

    The guy is a fucking fruitcake.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I think that his belief is more the 'Zionist conspiracy' angle though, rather than the physics/visual evidence ...



  • Irish - who do you think contrives all that "evidence" that you were finding on the internet?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "Who wants to eat?! Who the fuck wants to eat?! Go have something to eat! Hurrrrraaaaayyyyyy!


  • the world as we know it IS indeed coming to a fiery end very very soon.

    How do I know you ask? Did Jesus come to me last night? Did god whisper in my ear? Do I speak 'mexican' with the mayans (they do speak mexican don't they coach?)?

    No, it was none of that…. this is how I know:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    are we the only lazy bastards not working really diligently today?

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    seems that way. I crushed it from 6-9.

    Waiting on VC feedback on our new investment deck before I get into it again. Going to take an early lunch to swim/ride right now... too bad it's only 75 outside. Oh well.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hey, I don't normally shill for stuff, but since you brought up ribs - for the BBQ fans out there, a friend of mine runs a specialty BBQ shop in Omaha - lots of cool products:
    Great guys and they are excellent competitive BBQers that have won many awards in regional competitions (Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, etc).

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    This dude knows how to kick back, Shorty's got it going on.

  • Alas, I won't be anywhere near Chicago for the draft. Would love to see some of you slime and I'm sure it will be a great time. Unless of course Suckatansky shows up after the Bears trade out of the first 2 rounds. Wouldn't that suck? At least you guys could kick his 300 lb cheese ass. he he.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    You can always talk Jeff into setting up some kind of streaming video of the party. I'm sure that would be as fun as watching (drunk, rowdy) paint dry.

  • I wanted to address Big Bird's Sun Times column today called "Ruskell sits this one out."

    In this article, Timmy Boy says "We lost our QB. and for most team (sic), that spells disaster. That was certainly the case for us. We didn't make it to the playoffs, but we didn't see this as a crisis situation, or one that signalled an overhaul.... We (Jerry and I) don't understand why this was done.

    Ok, you stupid, foul, pusillanimous little FUCKwad Karl Rove clone, let me explain it to you since apparently Teddy Ballgame didn't communicate this effectively.

    You suck. Jerry sucks. We're probably going to let Woot-Woot go this spring, because he's more interested in his wedding than playing football. We were consistently mocked draft after draft for questionable calls. Cookie is teetering on the total bust line if he can't make the grade at LG. Do you not GET that? Did you think you had this team on the right track?

    Hold on a sec.

    (Slides on Mel Gibson mask)


    (Takes mask off)

    Whew. Wearing that thing is nuts. Gets hot in there.

    Russell, don't play coy with Big Bird, like you totally got an unfair shafting. It insults our intelligence. You were a disgrace, you and Glitchy, to the entirety of the Chicago Bears organization. The Ravens thing with Harbaugh was probably YOUR fault, Glitchy was probably stuffing his face with a Reuben and told you to make the call to the league, and you weren't listening. Your a dolt. You have a face like a mashed spud. You and Karl Rove could be a vaudeville act. You made us cry for years, and we begged for you to go. Don't act like you didn't see it coming. Take it like a man, or a potato-headed man, would. For everyone's sake.


  • Gee GP, sure a lot of vemon about Rove. Did you ever let out a peep about this one?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Dave -

    Ruskell looks like Rove. Nobody LOOKS LIKE the ACLU. Because it's not a person. It's an organization.

    That's the joke. That is WHY it is funny. Because they look like brothers, the humor derives itself from that. Hope that helped. I am also available to explain all the humor in the Daily Show to you, if the occasion were to ever arise.

    Also....pssst... Colbert isn't REALLY a Republican, either. It's farce. Just thought that might help as well.

  • they actually really do look alike. Rove should be publically hung on PPV. He is evil... not as evil as Cheney, but evil nonetheless.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    When your friends nickname you "Turd Blossom", it should be a sign that you're...well, an asshole.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    In their own right, they are both........................wait for it ............ wait............

    Kaiser Soze

    My quess is you'll never hear from them again.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Hah - caught that on TV this afternoon.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Evil as in "naughy"?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    So long as it's done side-by-side with Obama, I'd be okay with it.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    hahahahaha... I would be down with ALL of them, one after the other. Then change the laws, one term, 2 years, no PACs or outside funding of anything, one-man-one-vote, etc...

    Then I AM DOOOOOWN. You know, not really the killing part, but kick all of them our without pensions. Fuckers.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    One man, one vote?

    Now you're going too far.

    Ballot stuffing is the way we do in Chicago.

  • Oh sorry, I just assumed it was a political statement. Considering the source and all.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Since it basically just confirms the open-ended powers granted to the Executive branch by bipartisan Congressional and Supreme Court approval in the 2001 AUMF, it didn't and doesn't surprise me. The American public doesn't seem to have much interest as a whole in rolling back the intrusions we invited in the aftermath of 9/11. Frankly, politically speaking, IF Obama appeared to back off of any of the language involved in the original act, in spite of the death of Bin Laden and a few others under his watch, he would be absolutely hammered into the ground as "weak on defense" in the upcoming election. That's the reality of it, and it's one reason (among several) that Ron Paul is an afterthought in the Republican primary season. That doesn't make it right, but we don't even have a Supreme Court that's willing to protect the political process from interference by purely economic entities (Citizens United), so that's where we are.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    And Rove is an absolute abomination. The guy is the epitome of a political operative.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    But his twin brother Ruskell is down at least 80 points of iq on Karl.

  • That goes without saying. Ruskell couldn't take a shit without an instructional DVD.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    jesus, can you imagine what the means for jerry?

    That fucker probably needed fully color illustrated directions to wipe his ass.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I thought he was a political operative.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:


  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    We could drop MW3 and instead just play the Ron Paul videogame.

  • God bless Kickstarter for ensuring that every terrible idea has an equal shot at raising funds to pay for it.

    And it's a platform game.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    My favorite part:

    The riff-raff protesters that Paul vanguishes includes Mister T.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    told you... they're funding fucking babies with crayons right now.

    (no idea what that is, just said the first string of words that came to my head)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I have an idea for reals, actually. You'll have to tell me if you think it's been done or just sheer lunacy.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Or indeed a Supreme Court that cares about upholding the Constitution.

    Mitt Romney is a shocker. When a guy like Ron Paul gets overshadowed by cartoon characters like Santorum and Guy smiley, there really is no hope. It would almost suggest Wall Street/power elite don't want any interference with their Obama puppet ... if you're the crazy conspiracy type, that is.

  • I swear to god I would have thought I wrote that, if I know I hadn't.... uhhhh... yeah, you know what I mean.

    Way to channel me GP! Well done.

    I would, before I die, like to slap the living shit (back-hand bitch slap style) out of Jerry Angelo for what he perennially did to the beloved... if ruskell is nearby, that would be a bonus slapping. Ruskell is just a fucking pudgy little doofus, jerry is Lucifer.

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    Wow... I started reading the comments for this blog, just only this offseason. I knew JA wasn't very good. But I didn't realize how hot the anti JA feeling was in here.
    Hilarious rant.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    All I can tell you Big Mike is that MB has an eternal flame for that guy. I'm always good for another kick at the cat too.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    that was a nice euphamism canada.

    I hate that cancerous cunt for what he did to this team for 10 years... would be more appropriate.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I thought it was a nice turn of the phrase. Glad you liked it. We pretty much agree about JA. You're just a little more vocal than me.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Can we just call him CC for short? I like that. Sums him up perfectly in two words.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    I gave up my extended Angelo rants a long time ago, people know. He has very few fans outside Pompei.

  • Me and the lady will be there!!! driving up from St. Louis to attend.

    Can't wait to be back in a city that knows real football.... And all the St. Louis Cardinals talk is driving me nuts.

  • I am going to try and have some shirts for the regulars who show up.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    the 2012 ones?

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    Here's this completely awesome idea for a t-shirt I just randomly stumbled into on my trip across the interwebz.

  • Since Jimi is probably my all-time fave rock artist, count me in as a yes. BTW, I'm totally on board with the politics no fly zone on the blog. I hate that shit. It always has a bad ending.

  • Hahahahahah...

    How about a play on my favorite of your shirts...

    have a pick of emery with a huge pile of nuts and the caption.

    "Got nuts?"

    Or, this squirell gets the nut every time. Fuck I don't know, those are lame.

  • Hey GP, when are you gonna do your Rockatansky schtick again? I miss kicking that guy around.


  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Believe it or not, Trac - despite what you think on that score, I did not impersonate anybody on here nor have I. I only use my own account.

    I have had people target me with cheapshit vile from alternate fake accounts (ahem), but I have never retaliated in kind.

  • I know, I know, just kickin it around.

  • The part about enjoying kicking him around was true though.

  • I also think we need a gentlemen's agreement about something in here.

    I don't get riled and bait the boys across the aisle because I'm bored. I do it because I get sick of it, and I figure a day or so of full on flame will quiet the place down. Usually does.

    This fall promises to be a very close, extremely partisan, and extremely nasty Presidential election. It will have it's Swiftboat moments, or (if you are GOP) it's Dan Rather fake memo moments (see, I can be fair).

    But once pre-season kickoff happens in July, that's it. No more politics bullshit. And it should hold true all damn fall as well, through the November election. Keep the Obama and Romney baiting to yourself. Please. SC Dave and Viva are over there on the Reagan right, we have MBHP, Sac and myself over here on the left, and Irish and MB have seen through the political veneer and are telling us all we are in the fucking Truman show and the sky is made of plastic, it's all a big illusion. Ok. We got it. Now let's stow it, and stick to football. An admittedly flawed game that may or may not do harm to the people who play it, but as long as those risks are above board and the data is there, it's their decision to play.

    I don't know how everybody else feels on this score, but I have had it with anything outside of Bears and maybe those flying ski-doo things that MB finds in his catalogs.

  • Great comment, GP. I guess if I have to be reduced to a stereotype, for the record I'm in the Irish/MB camp. I'm by no means a fan of Obama but what are my other choices? I really liked Pawlenty and Ryan but oh well, maybe 2016. Who knows, there might be a moderate Democrat who shows up y then that I could learn to love....

  • It is getting quite tiresome to be truthful. I read your post and didn't even notice your Rove comment because I was reading it for strickly entertianing purposes. Absolution from either side of the isle will not take place on this blog and I have resigned my position to one of total disconnect when it comes to all things political. Not just here but in my life. I'm tired of playing "their" game. Politicians are a neccessary evil.

  • Will you withraw your contentious handle as a good will offering GP. He he.

  • Does that go for taunting someone else's inadequacies at MW3?
    Please let that be fair game.

    I don't -mind- the political stuff per se. I can dish it as well as I can take it, and I dare say that I probably don't agree across the board with what any of you fuckers have to say, so it's not like I need validation that I'm right. Of course, Buttsteak thinks I just can't let myself lose an argument, but I say if I was wrong, I wouldn't have the argument to begin with.

    Potato, potato, net, net, I'm going to the circus, a real circus. One week until the Bears draft party starts as of

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Not sure what time zone you're in, but you're an hour early on that comment by my watch.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    East Coast - don't puncture my balloon, NBIT. It's the only thing I'm holding on to.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:


    Have not been to a circus for about 20 years. These Italian brothers did some gymnastics stuff where the larger one tossed his bro about while the latter did flips and one arm handstands and iron crosses and sorts of shit - all atop the big one's hands, head, and shoulders.

    A fucking amazing display of strength and balance - I've never seen anything like it before or since.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I think my daughter is going to go bonkers in a good way. This is her first time, and it's going to have "dragons" or something.
    She has stated emphatically that she doesn't like clowns but she's really excited to see some tigers.
    Yeah, I do hope they have some cool gymnastics too.

  • Have to be honest... I actually enjoy the political banter.

    I don't venture in that often myself, but I find that opinions expressed on this football blog about tax policy, the military and civil rights generally are more diverse, thought out and well stated than on 95% of the political sites. I find them interesting, and if I'm not in the mood I just skip certain conversation chains (see blog, embedded comments are a good thing).

    The religious stuff gets a little off color for my taste on occassion, but I have never been offended by anything anyone has every written on here about Jews or anything else. And if there's anyone on the blog with strong religious convictions, its the guy in the beard and yamulkah.

    For those with thinner skin, I encourage you to skip certain sections of the comments, but I don't think a truce is neccesary or warranted. Some of the best humor comes from guys letting loose in favor of their chosen political persuasion.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I'm not Jewish (quite the opposite, actually) but for a number of reasons I'm sensitive to anti-Semitism. True, I don't go through everything here with a fine-toothed comb but I reallly recall any low blows directed at Jews just for being Jewish. I'm not a big fan of Gabe Carimi being referred to as the Bear Jew but I don't really think there's anything inately mean-spirited going on. Again though, if I were Jewish, perhaps I'd disagree with that opinion...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Whoops, typo ; should read "I don't really recall"...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    There haven't really been any anti-Jew remarks (this blog is blessedly thin on trolls). But there are a lot of anti-organized religion remarks. My religion is organized if its anything.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I posted a bad joke the other day but it truly was in good fun. We are kinda related don't ya know? Yuk, yuk yuk.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    What's the opposite of being Jewish?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I don't know if "opposite" was the right word, maybe should have just said "really different from Jewish" :) - Irish/Dutch/German and Catholic on my father's side, Iranian and Muslim on my mother's side (although she converted to Catholicism prior to emigrating here as a child and was raised in convent schools)...

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    NB, I totally thought that was going to be a joke. Mow I see you were referring to Tobi.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    I thought he was going to say he was a homeless guy who spends frivolously.

  • Ha! And with no sense of humor.

  • Or an extra long foreskin. Foreskin implants.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I was gonna say Mel Gibson.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I always found the 'Bear Jew' thing a bit shocking for the record (and I was raised Roman Catholic) until it was explained to me that Jews are not well-represented in the NFL (which I wasn't aware of).

    I think I posted this on a dead thread :

    Hear the one about the Jewish pervert who walks into a playground?
    "Hey kid, ya wanna buy some sweets?"

    I am killing me.

    Lapsed Roman Catholic. Hit me up. I've forgotten all the good ones.

  • Not that I imagine you actually care to try to understand beyond your prejudice, but I've posted this at least twice before, and it sums up where I have been about the political process for a very long time.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Spot on Dave, spot on.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I liked that!

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    And no, GP, it's not really about Ron Paul. It's really about all the rest of it.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Oh yeah, I love that video alot.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    That's spot-on. Wow, he got fired for that? If that isn't evidence of media conspiracy for the power elite then I don't know what is.

    The rest of the world shakes its collective head at the two-party system where you get a choice between the military industrial complex .... and the military industrial complex. It's like Billy Connolly said, "It doesn't matter who you vote for, the government always gets in.

    Bill hicks nailed American politics in 40 seconds. Miss you Bill.

  • Bobcat Goldthwaite: "Picking a president (party) is like going into an adult novelty store and trying to pick the dildo that is the least painful."

  • Nice one. The two main choices always ending up being like Major Wright.

  • The fucking Truman Show. Yessir. Alice in the looking glass. Absolutely.

    The way I see it, off-season is off-season. There's no football and only so much to talk about therein. The draft is next week and we've already done that to death, or pretty close-to. How many more ways can we repeat ourselves on the Forte thing? Are we psyched about Marshall? Check.

    For the season upcoming, I don't think we really get into the politics thing do we? Did we? There's too much to talk about football-wise, and the threads are more frequent anyway, so I don't think it becomes a problem to keep it to football.

    Restricting it to football in the off-season though, man, that would be hard. This is the first site I check every day, this is where my day begins, this is my portal to civilization in a sense. I get exposed to some different stuff on here. I get an interesting perspective on American politics from informed people - and I still have to check out Neal Stephenson, and soem other stuff - but if there was a blogwide moratorium on say poitics/religion, I wouldn't have a problem with that.

  • Yes. Neal Stephenson.

    He's the goods.

  • Have to disagree with ya, Rabbit. I'm an anything-goes kinda guy. I say we talk about everything. The fucked right, the fucked left, the fucked middle, fucking MB's wife's mom, pro religion, anti religion. Anytime. During football season, church, whilst fucking MB's wife's mom. Anything goes anytime. People just need to be cool with dissenting opinions and not sling insults around (cept mom jokes).

    I love this blog for it's myriad colors. This gentleman will not sign said agreement.

  • errr...uh...GP (not Rabbit).

  • You caught it before I did - nice!

  • I am making a solemn vow to only talk Bears and to bring a little humor to the blog whenever possible. The world can get pretty nasty and I don't want it to taint my release valves which are, in no special order, hot asian lesbian porn, the Bears (who are going to fucking kill the fuck out of Detroit), this blog, drinking Manhattans whilst viewing the previous 3 subjects, stacking fucking chips like a gangster, watching animal planet and discovery channel, playing softball, grilling delicious meats, etc.

    I am now changing my name in honor of my commitment to the beloved.

    My new name :

    Cutty's flesh cannon of sweet death which will triumph like a Lion over the minions of the great satan that is Detroit, GB and Minny.

    PS - where the fuck is Crown?
    PSS - did Ghost die?
    PSSS- how fucking dead are the packers? they ain't never seen nothing like Brandon Marshall.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    I too miss Ghost. Hope he just lost his internet connection. Guy was getting up there in years if memory serves me correctly.

  • In reply to BAM46Blitz:

    Crown's out on the streets talking to women.

    Ghost had Windows reinstalled but the Interweb disappeared.

    16 is still here somewhere.

    Waffle, you sound like my kind of man, and although I think Asian ladies are generally beautiful, I prefer my chocolate bunnies going at it. And I can't watch another show on sharks. Ever. 'Shark week' goes on for like a year.

  • Crown is engaged, homie. His absence duly explained.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    You've confused me, which I confess is easy to do. Are the followers not supposed to be PPS, PPPS , PPPPS, etc, Wallfe?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    And yeah, I wonder about Ghost too. Anyone that saw Luckman play had a few years behind him.

    If he has passed to the next place, I hope he went in a way not too hard on he and his beloveds.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    He is definitely missed around these parts. A voice of reason in our lunatic asylum.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    yes, that is actually correct however from now on I will only answer to Cutty's flesh cannon of sweet death that will triumph....yada yada yada...Minny.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Speaking of MIA, I haven't seen HuntinBear/The Void post in a while. I guess you could throw in the one educated Packer fan as well. Do you suppose some folks might actually live lives where posting here on a regular basis isn't near the top of their priority list? I guess it's possible but hard for me to conceptualize. And not that they were prolific contributors but there were a couple of females too who haven't been around in a long while....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    HB was on a few days ago.

    Ah, Sarah Jane Victoria Lynn, and was it Bear Chick?

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    "Do you suppose some folks might actually live lives where posting here on a regular basis isn't near the top of their priority list?"
    I'm one of those. Once the kids start getting into sports the life takes a downward spiral, as far as having one anyways. I usually read on my phone but posting on that stupid thing always has the autocorrect spell the wrong shit and I get pissed, so i don't bother I just read.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Tobi, I think of this little corner of the interwebs as my place to come and talk Bears whenever I want. Since you would just be a weirdo if all you did was talk bears to people in real life it makes perfect sense to come to a location where all we do is talk know, when we're not solving the world's problems.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    I'm filing a motion that this is the last time anyone on here refers to Cutlers "flesh cannon"....

  • And I'm filing a motion that waffle doesnt' say "Win like a Lion" again. The Lions don't win. Ever.

  • noted and issue resolved.

  • Better.

  • Although i despise Yahoo "reporting", i found this little tid bit "mock" draft kinda neat.

  • In reply to BAM46Blitz:

    I was over on WCG and they were grading mock drafts, I kid you not.

  • It's a strange place over there. I have the SBNation app on my phone and when I was browing through it I found a Steelers blog that was doing a 2013 mock. 2013! I have never been so amused. A lot of the comments where people crying that the guy who posted it didn't have the steelers winning out.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:


    I don't know why it is, but SBN attracts the nerdiest of the nerds.

    Everything is a meme or a fucking DragonballZ reference. I don't meme, and I certainly never saw a lick of japanime.

    I even lived with a kid whose entire bedroom was plastered in a thousand different anime (Japanimax we called him). Kid was obsessed with Japan. Studied japanese and moved out there to do some teaching. All caused by some sort of cartoons. I can't STAND that stuff.

    What am I missing?

    (Oh yeah, and then I went and married a half Japanese girl. He'd be livid)

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    I don't get it either Willie. All that Japanese cartoon shit holds absolutely no allure for me.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    I've never been one for all that anime/manga junk, my gf occaisonally watches it but she can't really explain why when I ask her.

    He surely couldn't have been as bad as some people are today........

    On the subject of WCG, I've never caught any of their DBZ/meme shit, but even that stuff isn't as mental as a 2013 mock.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    We should talk, given the Gibron-Armstrong-Wanny-etc years....

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    that's a little before my time I'm afraid. I've only known the bears from under lovie. I'm a young'un.

  • Trac man.........catch a quick flight, go right back in the morning, you will have a great time! Wish you were flyin in MB! GP, you attending? Hope Artoo can make it in.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    That Lucky Bastard Super is going to the official Bears draft party (put on by the Bears) and Jeff's. Good for him. Hopefully that will help take his mind off his sorrow. Not sure about anyone else. Last time I checked it was about $800 R.T. for me so there was no way that was happening. If nobody else gives us a full report, please be the one Murph. I'd love to find out some shit about the regulars. I'm sure there will be a mountain of laughs that night,

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    If I could siphon four tanks of gas, convince my uncle to let me sleep on his couch, walk out on a few cab fares, panhandle $40 to drink, and convince the pregnant wife that it takes 3 days to go to the store for groceries - I'm there!

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Speaking of siphoning gas...

    I'm not sure if it's been discussed, but Trailer Park Boys is one of the greatest shows to ever grace our fair planet.

    If ya don't know... find out.

    TPB snippet

    PS - Don't watch the movies as your first venture, they are not nearly as good as the episodes.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Funny shit. It took me a few episodes to get into it once I came to Canada. After that, I always watched it. Randy and Mr. Leahy put on a show in the small town in BC where I have a home. Mr Leahy got stoned and hammered during the show. Lots of laughs but it was a little disturbing to see Mr Leahy so fucked up in real life.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    I'm thinking the grocery part is gonna be the hardest

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    What is his sorrow? What have I missed?

  • Erik's grandfather passed not long ago.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Shit. I think they were close too. Damn.

  • Very close. He poured his heart out the other day. Irish pointed out that not one person on here was an asshole about it. Makes you proud of this bunch. On any other blog, somebody would be a colossal dick.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    I would love to Murph, I really would. I would have to tell a few mountains to move into the ocean for me to make this trip.

  • We need to draft this guy in the second round! He won't cost us 40M lol

  • Heard Matt Bowen tonight. If the Bears are looking at CB in the first, Dre K is the man. He's not the fastest, but he's got the best technique, and technique is what you want to see in a cover-2 corner.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I was thinking about how hard it would be to win the Super Bowl tickets on contest. Probably less than 1% of entries will have the 1st round selected completely correctly. Not a single mock draft last year was right, once Ponder came in, all the stats went out the window.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Absolutely. Look at this list of "Blue Chip" players that are supposedly consensus top 26 players. I'd bet money that at least one falls out of the first round.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    How 'bout all that, and a BAG of chips?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Yeah, this year, the wild cards are going to be.

    1) QB Tannenhill. He can go #4 to the Browns. Then again, MIA at #8 could draft him, KC at #11 or SEA at #12. If he gets by them, undoubtedly some team who passed on him will trade back into the 1st round and snatch him up, thus ruining all mock drafts.

    2) GB, PATS, etc trading down. It's almost a yearly ritual, and this will happen.

    3) QB Weeden. Some team is going to trade back into the 1st for this guy. Maybe the Cowboys or the Eagles, but it might happen. It seems like every year 2 qbs are reached for.

    4) Blue Chip fall. As NB noted, a blue chipper will fall. Likely candidates: Kuechly, Coples, Kirkpatrick, Jenkins. Some team is going to be willing to trade up for one of these guys.

    Book it.

  • Wild Cards that could really move up and down the board:

    1) Trent Richardson - Last year the first RB wasn't taken until the Saints picked Mark Ingram at #28. Ingram was a consensus top 10 guy. The RB position just isn't what it used to be. If Forte signed a deal and Richardson fell to #19, would you take him?

    2) Mark Barron - The safety class is reguarded as weak this year. Even Barron is regarded by some as a reach in the first round. Add that to safety being a somewhat undervalued position and you've got a lot of question marks. Barron could go early as the only quality guy at his position. He could go late for the above mentioned reasons. But I see him all over mock drafts and have no sense of which teams want him.

    3) Tannenhill and Weeden - Both QB prospects will likely go in the first round. But again, the question is where. Imagine this scenario: Cleveland takes Tannenhill at #4 and the Dolphins, desperate as ever, take Weeden at #8.

    4) Cordy Glenn - He's either the second best guard behind DeCastro or the third best tackle ahead of Martin. Teams will draft this guy all over depending on if they see him as a LT prospect or a solid LG.

    5) Coby Fleener - TEs are a hot commodity, but the draft class is supposedly weak. See above my comments about Mark Barron. I could see any WR or OL hungry team opt for Fleener instead.

    6) Janoris Jenkins - The big character question mark of the draft class. He's got top 15 talent, but serious character questions. Reminds me of Marcus Harrison in that respect - Harrison was a 1st round talent gotten in the 3rd round because of his character issues.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Surely Richardson is a top 5 pick? He's a guaranteed baller. I guess we'd have to draft him, although if it's between him and Kuechly, I don't know. Both are gone by ten. With 9 guards on the roster, I don't see how we draft one.

    If we draft Fleener I have to nibble more of my chode. It's a meal in itself, don't get me wrong, but it comes in handy.

    I don't buy into BPA either. If Tannehill dropped to 19 I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    If we are taking a CB, which I doubt at this point I would want Jenkins. I know he has some character issues but i think he's the second most talented CB in the draft. I want Coples but I doubt he's going to be there at 19. Dude reminds me of Peppers (could be the North Carolina thing) but he's big and fast.

  • Von Miller went pretty high last year, didn't he? Surprised if Kuechly escapes the top ten. Kirkpatrick could definitely fall due to his character, but what about risers? I think Poe could get taken high, Better measurables than Suh with 40lbs to boot. Hightower should go a lot higher than the 30s he's been tagged with. Will the Bears ask him to provide our pass rush?

  • Von Miller was a pass rushing OLB - they're valued as much as 4-3 DEs (highly).

    ILB recently haven't been drafted that highly.

    Hence, a slight chance Keuchly may drop to us. Still, that's optimistic because his production and character are off the charts, and he performed better than expected at the combine

    But crazy stuff happens when the announcer puts teams on the clock...


    Janoris and Dre were mentioned for possession citations. Mike Adams tested possitive at the combine. The lions drafted three of them last year - expect Jenkins and Kirkpatrick to drop. But no thanks. No problem with anyone smoking weed, but if you're in the NFL then it raises flags about a player's attitude to the professional sport they chose to play. Not to mention you've got to be pretty stupid to get caught by the police, so no thanks to the blue chip stoners.

  • Exactly - guys that couldn't avoid getting popped pre-draft are probably not going to do real well against NFL Security and the real police out in the real world.
    And a nice four game suspension is not what a team wants to get out for their first round pick in year one.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    You can't win as you can't make trades. They had a similar contest in a nespaper over here (Maybe the Guardian? I dunno, can't remember) in 2007/2008 and they had five players and you had to predict the order they would be drafted in....not draft number, just the order. Much easier. Except I'm sure one of them was Limas Sweed and he screwed my entry up

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:


    Either him or barron... whichever is still there please. Barron is my #1 choice.

  • Can the Bulls just cut Boozer now and give that cap space to the Bears?! Boozer freakin sucks!! Bears/Bulls would be better off if that could happen!!

  • In reply to 505 Bears!!:

    Ah, fuck.

    I come here to get AWAY from the doom and gloom.

    Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.

  • Chicago Bears, 2012 World Champions!

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I love me some Kim. "I wish evwybody was interrigent ... like me."

    Jeff, have you organized the blog superbowl victory celebration party yet? How about the Soldier field car park the day after. Tinnies, pot and polish dogs (the sausages, not ugly women).

  • In fact, in honor of Kim (R.I.P) would this be too hard a punishment for CC Angelo ?

  • You bweakin my baws here, you bweakin my baws

  • I love the term Tinnies. How much are you plonking on the bears this year Irish? You are still getting 33/1 withh William Hill.

  • Beast excited. So am I!

  • still can't believe we have him. Bears fans have never seen anything like this guy.

  • Question: Which acquisition was/is the most exciting?

    a) Jay Cutler

    b) Julius Peppers

    c) The Beast

    d) Phil Emery

  • Hint: The answer is clearly a, so maybe discuss who is second and if you can convince me that a is not the answer, I may subscribe to your newsletter.


  • The addition of Jay Cutler was an incredible move. Then Jerry took that move and urinated all over it by not drafting any real olinemen or WR's worth a fucking goddamn.

    The next 3 are so fucking awesome because Peppers is a future HOF player, Beast is probably the single best WR we've ever had and Emery is a guy that will continue to make good decisions to take us to the promised land into the future.

    In short, I have no fucking clue with one excites me more.

  • Relax, Waffle. I subscribed to your newsletter long ago.

  • SC Dave, in response to your above post regarding political stances, here's mine:

    I think everyone can fall into one of these categories...

  • In reply to ben in norcal:

    god i loved that movie

  • jebus....... Waffle...your avatar name is longer than your post..LOL!!!!

  • In reply to ben in norcal:


  • In reply to ben in norcal:

    Classic. The Oscar clip.

  • Wow, what did we find beside the Kim Jong Il videos? George Carlin talking about everything we've been going over on the last couple of threads, combining the death penalty, religion, politics and football. Crucifying bankers, yessir.

  • Team Needs from PFT


    Our tackles are bunk, Carimi a question mark.
    Marshall needs a solid #2 to complete the WR corp.
    Hester still getting no respect at WR(rightfully so in my opionion).
    Martz shredded our TE situation, draft offers no help.
    Bears are shallow at CB.
    Season will hinge on signing Forte.
    Lovie's head could be on the chopping block.

    What sayeth you?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    season doesn't hinge on Forte but not having him AND not having another solild go to guy at receiver may hurt.

    Earl and KD are going to have solid years because of Marshall. Hester will even benefit as I believe they will find more intelligent ways to get him the ball. A big key is how Weems, Thomas and WR to be named in several days step up to round out the arsenal.

    I believe the combo of Marshall, Bennett, KD, Forte/Bush, Hester and Thomas/Weems/WR draft pick should be sufficient.

  • The Hester thing is simple. Having Hester on the field should have gone like this every play. "Go long Devin". The way we played him there was a good chance he'd run a yard and then turn around, the safety didn't have to go deep. You run Devin deep on every play and you train the safeties to automatically come over to him because they HAVE TO. Pavlov's dogs. They see Devin on the field and their asses scramble back to cover him deep. They don't come over and his ass is in the endzone with the ball. You do that and there's a safety taken out of every play he's on the field, you just throw it somewhere else in behind him, or hit him deep if they don't bite.

    Now if we do that this season (with Hester), and the D has to use a safety to help out on Marshall, then Bennett and KD will have field days mopping up the gravy in the middle.

    Our OL is built to run, the backs become almost interchangeable. That offense will hum with or without Money Man. He'll play. It's all good.

  • I like Hester on short routes, even if just to put pressure on the outside linebackers and strong safety, more than I do with him running posts. He's shifty more than he is straight line fast. The contrast of him underneath versus Marshall on the outside makes for some real dilemmas for the guys in coverage.

  • I really think you guys don't get it on Forte. With everyone else, and NOT Forte, the Bears are an average offense. With him, considerably better than that.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Of course, it could just be that I don't get it

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    That would make two of us that don't get it, Dave.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Cutty, Bush, Marshall, KD, Earl, Hester .... average? We'll see. Forte obviously makes that set better, I don't think he's going anywhere though.

  • I feel they'll draft a 6'4 guy in a lower round, but that's a project anyway. No one made a move on Plax did they? I think between Marshall, Forte, Bush, Davis, Bennett with a dab of Hester and Clutts - Cutty has plenty of targets.

    Definitely need a tackle for depth competition.

    We also need to know WTF is going on with Forte ASAP as there will be value RBs to be had, namely Lamar Williams who would be the closest thing to a Forte type. What's the story Matt ?

  • I forgot about Clutts. It feels good to have a FB that has ball skills and is all hustle.

    I remember an awesome Forte screen that he took 50 or 60yards and crossed all the way across the field. The guys 40 yards down the field extending the play from a 30yarder to a 50 yarder down to the 1? Clutts and Hester.

  • I bet our first pick will be best player available, no matter what (except punter, qb, kicker positions, sorry MB). If you think about it, other than the above for mentioned positions , I don't think the Bears could go wrong in the first round if they go BPA no matter what their needs are.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    agreed, anyone outside of QB, Kicker. I'm absolutely pumped.

  • I'm putting my money on DE. If Coples is there or if Merciless is there I'll bet they don't get past the Bears. I believe it's most likely going to be Merciless.

  • ugh!?

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Hey lobo, if the shoe fits, I say wear it my man. This guy may be just what the Bears need. From reading that short snippet, he sounds like a bruiser.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Jeez, 6'6 325. We're not sold on Melton either, are we? I'm wary of anyone CC drafted because he apparently over-ruled the actual scouts who know football.

    Hold the sauce, this draft has Kuechly going at 21 to the Bengals. Sorry, no, I go with the LB. Too good to pass up if he falls. Von Miller went #2 last year.

  • And it gets worse, he has us draft Sanu - the worst of the tier 2 WRs - in round 2? Mock drafts are pointless anyway because they have no trades involved for starters, which always happen.

    We know better than the 'experts' what we need anyway. With the first three or four picks we'll know whether we can win the Lombardi with injuries or not. Pass rush and LB are musts, plus an OT for competition.

    Assuming we win the NFC, the Pats D won't have an answer for our offense. It's tailor-made. New Orleans? 27 years on? The Pats? Come on!

    Anyone else to give us problems? Sanchize? Mwah! As if.
    Denver's new QB gets carted off the field in week one. Flacco is a douche. We have Pittsburgh's number. Fuck Rivers. Houston? Meh.

    ladies and gentlemen, after the draft - perhaps not right now, but after the draft, I think we will have the best team in the NFL.

    Homer? Amen.

  • Melton came in third for sacks by a defensive tackle last year, behind the co-leaders by 1/2 sack, at 7.
    Those are big numbers for a DT.
    I'd say the coaching staff is sold on Melton - not sure why he doesn't get as much love from us.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    not consistent against the run. i like him though and think he will have a good year.

  • not sure if this got posted or not..if sorry if not...good insight:

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    sheite...sorry trac...didn't see you post earlier.#$@!$#!$#@!!!!!!@#

    to lazy to scroll up DAMN IT!!!!

  • Oohrah, rise and shine you maggots.

  • We usually don't see mocks this late in the game with Bears taking so many different positions.

    This week there are mocks that have us taking a CB (Gilmore), Tackle (Martin), DE (Merciless) and a TE (Fleener).

    Usually by now, teams needs have been identified. This is the new NFL, which is all about deception, mock interest for trade offers, and a host of other subterfuge.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That may be so GP but I think it has more to do with what I eluded to in an ealier post. I believe Phil's going BPA all the way(with the exception of a few positions) and that's probably the reason for so many different mocks.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Although all four of those mocks have the Jags locked in on Michael Floyd at 7. Dunno what that's about. They must have tipped.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I think the key reason for that is twofold:

    1) We have no glaring weaknesses. Emery did a really solid job in FA of plugging up all of the worst holes in the roster.

    2) We have plenty of room for depth pretty much at every position. So Emery could draft a quality guy pretty much anywhere on the roster and we'd be happy.

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    I'm going to add a comment about politics on this board. As a new guy, one of the things that attracted me here, is the lack of trolls, the quality of the football opinions expressed and the fact that you guys seem to have been at this for a while.

    After beginning to contribute and read the comments daily about 3 months ago, I've come to appreciate the back and forth about the Bears.

    I am absolutely convinced, that sports and an outlet for fanatical passion, is one of the problems in some of these messed up countries. Not that it would solve problems by dropping sports teams in there, but that their culture evolved without anything to get passionate about besides religion, revenge, and politics.

    So.. My point is, we are doing our patriotic duty, and keeping the USA strong, by keeping politics and religion out of this blog.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Sports don't make a country great Big Mike. Look what happened to Rome and Greece.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Bread and circuses, bread and circuses.

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    In reply to TracDaddy:

    I would say you've made my argument. Their runs at the top of the heat lasted centuries.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Not when you look at their history in context. Sports and competition came at their Zenith. When those empires started crumbling, nobody noticed because they were all at the ball game sipping suds and cooking brats.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    To be fair, wasn't it Newton that said, "What goes up, must come down"?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Cam Newton thinks he's superman, though, so I don't know why he would say that.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The Carolina Nietzches.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    True Trac, the whole world is drunk and don't even realise that closing time has been called.

  • Not closing time, just time to reshuffle the deck. Kick out all the sharks. Play an honest game again, starting from zero.

  • And who will kick out the sharks? We the people or we the mob? I don't know Doc, where does it end?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Inertia will tear it down. It doesn't end. I'm beginning to believe that all forms of government will either fail or eventually become victims of their own success. It's all cyclic and I don't pretend to know even one millionth of the "true story" or all the facts. I just know our machine has run it's course and it's own inertia will send it off the cliff.

    Do I have a solution? I have my ideas. I'd be called a commie hippy nihilist (if those aren't to mutually exclusive). And any form of government or social structure that I could come up with, or anybody else, would be bound for the same fate, in all likelihood. Why? Because people don't learn from history. People are seemingly born with an idea..."oh that'll never happen to me". But it does. It seemingly always does.

    Like I said, I don't have any solutions that I think will work for everyone. I'm not that arrogant. But I know what I want. I want to gather about 5 or 6 family's. Friends preferably. Like minded people to start a community in the hills of Idaho or Oregon. I'd like to start from scratch and build up some buildings like the Amish do and live off the land. The simple life. It'd hardly be the easy life, but I'm sick of the current state of society. And I love working in the woods. I come alive in the woods.

    Blah blah blah..

    I'm in a hotel room for a maths conference. Should be out socializing but I despise small talk and would frankly rather be sitting here enjoying the quiet sans kids.

    In short, Trac my man, I don't have any answers. I do have some serious concerns. I have many ideas of what I'd like to do for me and my family. I have many ideas that I think would help our current government and state of affairs. But I have no idea how to go forward with any of them.

    Good Talk

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    That's the burning question of th emillenium Trac, who bounces the sharks .....

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    They shagged young boys for fun and used women for making babies. And invented civilization to give them their due.

    Actually, Rome and Greece were pretty great Trac. All empires fall eventually (because of standing armies, as a PhD in Roman history pointed out to me on a bus journey) . The USA is at breaking point right now. 135 countries with U.S. military bases? Wow. That's got to cost a pretty penny and I'll wager some more of my substantial chode they don't tell the people what that bill really comes to.

    6 days 6 hours 58 minutes and 42 seconds.

    What? No, the draft. The empire began to fall somewhere after 1974.

    Huh? I just do.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    True patriotism is questioning the fuckers who lie to you on a daily basis, anally raping you, and who offer up piss-poor education, sports and Desperate Housewives and legalized beer so that you don't notice or are too dumb to care, whilst simultaneously firing Judge whatshisface off Fox - or anyone else who gets to close to the curtain or uses drugs that open your mind and close down the brainwashing.

    It would be somewhat sadly indicative of what's happening to the world if we only discussed the very shallow world of football. Yes, I said that, shallow. Being fucked and contriolled by the power elite the .001%ers is way more important than a bunch of dope-smoking, steroid-injecting, mollycoddled spoilt brat millionaires.

    Seriously, going back and forth over how many million dollars Matt Forte should get paid rather than share thoughts on issues which affect the 7 billion people on this planet that orbits the third stone from the sun, which orbits the center of the milky way, which speeds away from the singularity from which everything sprang in some crazy fucked up event ... it just doesn't amount to very much. It's football. In the grand scheme of things it's fucking pointless. I love my Bears, I love football, it's the best sport on the planet and they are our gladiators, but that doesn't mean that we can't recognise it's just soemthing that Caesar throws out there so that we don't riot.

    Fuck the power elite. Some of us are not asleep, we know what they're doing and will shout it from the rooftops until the day we die. And talk a little football to kill the time. But get your priorities right, because the two-minute warning is coming boys and girls, and I don't mean against the Colts in week one. The revolution is at hand. The bankers/freemason's plan is almost completed, our job is to wake everybody the fuck up.

    Religion, sure, ban that off the blog. Ghosts and Goblins and monsters in the closet. Fuck that.


  • Pure religion is this, to visit the widows in their time of their affliction, to protect the fatherless and to remain unblemished by the world. Wrap your brain around that one my friend.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    That I agree with Trac, thank you. I was referring more to the money-collection end, the results of war etc. Of course the true humanistic aspect (where it doesn't cross over into organized abuse) does still hold some value, and hope.

  • +1. I hear ya, bro.

  • It's the duality of being a football fan. I love it, and as go the Bears goes my week. But it's just a big diversion.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    I get your point, Mike, just don't agree with it. But it's an interesting thought. Keep 'em coming.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    See? That's how we do that. Nicely handled.

    It's nice to be nice.

    Yes mom.

  • Loon.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    That's my word! Thief.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Good artists borrow, great artists steal.

    I'll take it as a complement.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    BTW - I did check out that NIST stuff you flagged for me, MBHAP. It did state that building 7 fell at freefall speed which can only be achieved by removing any resistance i.e. controlled demolition. Then Larry Silverstein's interview has been all over Youtube for years where he says they "pulled it". Video footage of first responders reporting explosiions is all over the shop. Now knowing it takes weeks to rig a building for demo, it logically follows the building was pre-rigged. They knew the attacks were coming, Bush was handed the report on August 6th. NORAD was stood down that day. Nick Rockefeller told Aaron Russo how it was all going to pan out, that there would be 'an event' and that Afghanistan and Iraq would be invaded, a pipeline would be built, they were going to have people searching caves, then they'd go in for Chavez.

    Larry Silverstein made 5 billion off those buildings going down, God knows how much Bush made off Carlyle, Cheney from Halliburton etc. Now it may not have been an inside job, but they didn't try to stop it from happening, which amounts to the same thing.

    I rest my case.

  • Oh, and I never returned the gift of information ....,_Son_Of_Learjet_Inventor.html

  • smh....

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Some have defined sanity and insanity as merely one's level of adherence to socially accepted customs, beliefs, and behavior. Color me Loony then.

    And while I won't defend nor refute Irish's particulars, I stand by his overall premise. The current power structure of the world, generally led by the USA, is a system wrought with cronyism, greed, self-interest, corruption, war, terror, prejudice, mass brainwashing and utter disregard for the environment, basic human rights, education and the pursuit of enlightenment.

    I gotcher back, Irish.

  • It was a wise-ass retort to his comment on my pleasantry to Big Mike, not the fact that he subscribes to some zany conspiracy theories. I respond to those with debunking them.
    I happen to not disagree with what you said on the rest.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Dude, I was complimenting you. You didn't agree with his idea, but were courteous in response. I was applauding you.

  • I know, that's why my response to you was "smart-ass". I was just flipping you a friendly bird.

  • This country also lacks true leadership in an environment of more than questionable ethics. But were still the best in the world.

  • That's two of us Doc. Can we start a revolution and have kids at the same time?

  • To that Irish, I say this, "welcome to the jungle" Big Mike.

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    In reply to TracDaddy:

    I wonder what has Irish so worked up? I don't know about 99% this or 1% that. I do know that I try to be part of the answer with actions, rather than words.

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    In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    It was just a small point. Sports is a great outlet. The beauty of the game is it matters so much, but really not at all. I didn't say don't be political, I said this blog would lose its appeal to me if it it was overly political. To me the wrong politics for a few hours a week is everbody but the Bears.

    I'm an entrepreneur and a capitalist. I've built companies, employed people and help to launch the careers of some great young people. The only think in America I despise is the self righteousness of politics. There are always two sides to an issue. What we've lost is the ability to find common ground and move forward.

    Sports sometimes is the common ground that helps us to meet new people and move on from that shared experience.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    solid post mang, you can't find common ground if the party in power whoever it is uses your agreement on a point as the justification for a "mandate". That is why the two sides will never move forward together...because only one side can yield the president and because having the voting majority means you get your shit voted in.

    I laugh alot but have a heavy heart because I know where we are headed in the next couple of decades and it is not going to be pretty.

    I love football because it is pure competition and loved playing it and watching others excel at it. The Bears represent a great temporary release from the struggle of everyday life. It also helps when that release is a Bears victory.

    In closing, the coach of the Lions is a douchebag.

  • Schartz is a tool and a douche. The art of compromise has been lost. Compromise to get things done. That's what we are missing. To many vendetta's. Taken to an extreme it sounds like the sikh's and the sunni's in Iraq, or the tribal leaders in Afghanistan, who live in squalor, but also live for revenge.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Now that I can agree with.
    Well put.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Big Mike, Irish is beyond passionate about most things, so don't take it personally. Irish and I have gone round and round on a few football topics but at the end it's not a big deal.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Oh it was just a rant, Mike, nothing personal to you whatsoever mang.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    But look at us Mike. We're all Bear fans, it seems like a Packer/Bear blog though sometimes. Even a bunch of people on the same side can rip into each other. Sports, flags, nationality, religion ... they all divide us. It's tribalism, our default position. Is there an answer tot hat? I think Star Trek gave one. THe Earth aligns, there's one flag, no disease, poverty, no need for money, everything's sweet. But then you leave Earth and bump into Romulans and the Borg, and it's the same old shit.

    Maybe football and being shit-faced isn't such a bad alternative after all.

  • I watched "Warrior" last night, brought back some fine memories.

    When everything is said and done, this season will come down to Team work. As of now, Forte "has" to get his head right and get the ball rolling because at some point in time, the "Team" has to come first. Even with all of the "business" aspects involved in today's NFL, the "Team" that get's it together, "Wins" it together.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    My favorite part of Warrior is the rematch with the Mohawk guy. He's mister smack, all posture. He gets Michael Spinks'ed. Awesome.

  • Interesting draft simulator here that has us taking Andre Branch at #19 with Keuchly, Dre K, Brockers, Hightower, J Martin, Konz and Barron on board. Personally I would be taking Keuchly, Hightower or Barron or even trading down to get one of those guys at the end of the 1st (NE would love to trade up for Barron).

    That's the consensus draft though and you can run the whole 7 rounds yourself and make trades (however unrealistic they may be) to see how that would affect things.

    On a side note, I would love it if we drafted Looney (G) in the 4th. Him and McNutt give us a team of amazing names for years to come.

  • Oh I love it, check out the NFL title page - the Detroit draft busts. Oops we did it again. Sweet. Bill Murray sweet.

  • Paging MB30, paging have a call on the house phone.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    grumble grumbel grumble...


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    just looked at their list... joey harrington is all they gots!?

    they didn't even have leaf on the list... that thing is bunk.

  • In reply to MB30SD:


    Leaf was a Charger.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    yes sir. Remember... there was that big stink with him and peyton M. Peyton refused to go to the then terrible chargers, and they did some switcheroo and the bolts got leaf.

    Jamarcus was most assuredly a bust, but when you add jail time, multiple felony drug and theft charges to the terrible QB play, it's taken to completely new level.

    Ryan Leaf HAS to be the biggest very low 1st round bust ever in the NFL.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Good old Peyton .. .and Cutler gets the tag of whiner.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I saw on that Bleacher report thing somebody posted about the Bears taking Brockers in Fantasy land .... and noticed a Charger fact. The Chargers have not drafted an O-lineman in the first round soince 1986. Fancy that.

  • I can't remember the last time that Chargers and playoffs were used in the same sentence.

  • A fucking 6th for Assante S!?!?!??!

    Uhhhh, yes fucking please!!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    too much $$ MB. I'm not exactly sure how much he makes, but it's at least a metric fuckload, and that is too much for an aging route jumper who gets burnt to a crisp twice for every interception he makes.

  • You can always trade once you re-negotiate the terms of the deal with the player agent.

    If Samuel reworks his deal, he could be worth a 6. He's a cover-2 type corner.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Ahhhhh..... never the fuck mind what I just said. It's all true, but look at these numbers:

    He's set to get $10M this, and $11M next. We have $3.

    No way that deal gets made.

  • In reply to gpldan:


  • In reply to gpldan:

    Everything I've ever seen or watched, he's the anti-cover 2. He hates tackling.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    FWIW, Matt Bowen pretty much agrees with you:

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Yep, you don't want a gambler in zone coverage. You want a sure tackler and a guy with discipline. Samuels has neither but he can make the splashy play in man coverage - hence the money he commands (or did, in the past tense). Chicago does not want or need him, IMHO, and certainly not going to pay a premium for a man corner. Same reason we were never in the Asomugha (ah, fuck it, however you spell it) derby - that money is better spent elsewhere in our scheme.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I guess that's why Merriweather isn't around anymore as well. Just couldn't get with the program....

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Yup, spend it at DE. Shame we haven't got the fundage to go after Osi. Unless .......

  • what GP says coach.

    If he's willing to take 'i was traded for a 6th rounder' money, it's a slam dunk... even if he pulls a jamarcus on us. He's an afamalete.

  • I've often wondered what it would take to get a kicker into the first round of the draft.

    If you had a guy with 100% accuracy from high school and all through college from inside 40 yards... would you take him in round 1 in round 1?

    If you had a guy with the ability to kick 100 yard field goals at 70% accuracy... would you take him in round 1?

    If you had a punter with the ability to consistently kick out of bounds inside the opposing 5 yard line from his own 20... would you take him in round 1?

    What if it was one guy who could do all three of those things?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:


    but that human doesn't exist... so we're talking fantasy here. Interesting situation though.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    although that's basically how GB beat us the last two games. Their new punter was fucking lethal.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    that punter played his fucking ass off...and he had really gay hair.

  • And he was an undrafted free agent...

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Yeah right NBiT, a wonderful "magical" kicker...

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Didn't Ray Guy go in the first ?
    I suppose for a kicker it would be a guy who could 70-80 yard FGs, that would be a good guy to have around.

    I'd definitely pay money to see a guy kick it from his own ten. If I had any.

  • Anyone heard of Chandler Jones?? I believe he'd be a steal if he falls to us. He got hurt and that messed up his draft number but I believe he'd be great! Plus, his brother is Jon Jones! I'm biased cus he's from Cuse but what do you all think???

  • In reply to OsosFan:

    Chandler will not make it to 19. He has too much upside. Will be gone by 15. I like your thinking though and would gladly subscribe to your newsletter.

  • I tried it and even an acronym of your new screen name is too long. I like it though, kind of Gilgameshy....

  • I have no newsletter or anything of that sort. lol I'm a football noobie. Jones looks like a mean dude and we both went to Cuse lol. I've learned a great deal from all you guys here. This blog is the best and I thank all you guys for your very intelligent commentary. Anywho, I will try to join in when I feel I can help out...

  • In reply to OsosFan:

    no newsletter? why do you tease me so?

  • Never cared for the stuff myself (and that made me a minority of one with the crowd I ran with back in the bad old days) but every single cop I've ever talked to (a number of cousins were Chicago cops and quite a few of my father's friends and patients were as well) would rather deal with a pothead as opposed to someone in a Jack Daniels fueled rage. Personally, I think if someone has an addictive personality, they're going to do whatever it takes to get what they crave regardless of whether it's legal or not. I wonder sometimes if instead of all this money flowing out of the country and subsidizing organized crime as well as terrorism, if might not be a better idea to have the goverment control it an tax it. I'll bet the number of addicts in this country would only marginally increase and any treatment they required would be a minute fraction of the incredible sums of money that would be taken in. Of course, there are exceptions to the rule - I can't really see being able to stroll into a Walgreens to pick up some crystal meth. But pot? Jeez, come on....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    And crime would drop dramatically if what you craved was priced reasonably instead of having a markup of 1000% or more of its cost of production.. And we wouldn't need the incredible bureaucracy the War on Drugs has created and the incredible cost associated with that....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    It's actually a zillion percent mark-up. It's a weed. It's fucking free. You could grow it in your garden. Fuck sake.

    But I'm not even talking about getting high. Look deeper.

  • Doc, even if it were made legal, DuPont would sue you for everything you own. Your product in the back yard would end up getting cross polenated with their genitic patent that blew in with the Santa Anna's . See what happens when you think too deep.

  • I know but I just went with what would get the headlines...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I spent a week in Amsterdam about a decade ago. It was the safest big city I've ever been in.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    The article was about hemp, not marijuana. Hemp is without question the most widely useful crop on the planet, and the fact that it's not being utilised anymore is insane. Screw Dupont, and all the other corporations that 'want to help us'.

    How do you ban nature? Food, clothing, fuel, paper .. .are these things dangerous to our existence?

  • Ha, I think lighting poor helpess weeds on fire is cruel and unusual punishment Doc. Could you imagine all the smog it would generate if they made it legal? Sorry Bro, couldn't help it. You like the old trac or the new one? Neither is ok too. hee hee.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Those deep thoughts you have when you get high are just the screams of innocent vegetation, condemning you with their last puff of C02, you heartless pricks...

    Just kidding - PETA was nice enough to show up and protest the circus last night so the kiddies could see photos of sad-looking elephants. Trust me, my daughter did not notice - she was too busy making everyone headed for the Coliseum (yes, that's what it's called) laugh as she dragged me to the show.
    She loved it - miserable elephants aside.
    They are headquartered about 20 minutes from NN.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    the animal stuff is terrible. Just fucking horrid... I have to put it out of my mind.

    If you've ever seen a wild African elephant up close and watched a whole herd (family) as they run down to the water hole, or grieve over old elephant bones, or have one of their trunks on your shoulder... man they are seriously soulful, intelligent, beautiful animals. Really sad to see them in the circus.

    Chimps... now chimps are just filthy little monkeys.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Elephants rock. I hate seeing idiot tourists here buying bags of food off the elephant slave masters that walk elephants around all day on hard roads, grinning inanely at how cool it is to touch anelephant but not having a clue that they're contributing to its misery.

    When I first moved here I saw an elephant on a patch of grass across from my house. It was up on its back legs doing some weird kind of dance, as its owner sat there waiting for it to eat. I called for my girlfriend to come in and see it, but she made a face when she saw it. "It's dancing because it's sad."

  • Thinking about the Forte situation... And I want to start by saying the Bears are without question a much better team with Forte in the backfield. No doubt about it. But where is this situation really headed?

    He'll most likely sit out a good portion of this mini-camp, but I very serisouly doubt he'd miss any games. It's also likely he'll end up playing angry for new paper like he did last season.

    If Matty has another pro-bowl season or anything close to it, I think trying to work out a contract becomes even more difficult for the two sides. Sure the Bears would still have the ability to franchise him again, but if that happens whatever drama we've had this offseason will increase ten fold.

    But I don't think the Bears will want to pay that kind of coin (10 mil or so) on a tag for a RB. So unless they work out a deal in the near future, he's most likely a goner after this season. I'm sure Emery is pissed at fucking Angelo for not getting this done before last season, but this is the position in which he now finds himself. Which leads me to the conclusion...

    If the Bears get a phone call on or before draft day wondering if they'd be willing to move Forte, they'd be crazy not to at least listen to what teams are offering considering where this thing is headed...

  • In reply to Shady:

    Yeah, sure they better listen. But what teams out there are desperate enough for a running back (proven, true) to pay him what he wants and realistically, probably more than he's worth as well as give us draft picks? I'm not saying there aren't, just wondering if anyone has an opinion on who those teams might be?

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    New England
    NY Jets
    St Louis and
    Tampa Bay

    Interesting chart of team needs:

  • In reply to Shady:

    Well everyone around here is clamoring for Mike Wallace. I guess Forte for Wallace is vaguelly within the realm of hypotheticals. They're both going to cost more than they might be worth.....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Hmm....very intriguing possibility.

  • In reply to Shady:

    He'll likely get franchised next year too, by which point he's already priced himself out of the market due to the fact that nobody's going to give us any worthwhile picks when they can draft a guy with less mileage and pay him peanuts. Meanwhile Forte makes decent coin, all guaranteed, and potentially walks out on us next year for free. Let him walk, franchise him twice and let him walk. We'll have had his best years by then anyway, all downhill after that. Where's Lamar Williams expected to go? Maybe we draft him anyway and just move Forte for a third or whatever. Use that cash to maybe get Osi?

    Nobody actually wants to see him go, but rather than have a distraction sit in your locker room for two years ....

    I'd give him this year and then fuck him. We use himt o win the superbowl and then let him walk. But if Lamar is there in the third then we have to draft that dude.

  • That's my point Irish, the Bears most likely AREN'T going to tag him twice. Not at 10+ mil a season.

  • In reply to Shady:

    He has to sit this year and prove his resolve for that to work.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    heheh good one

  • From the "Larry the Douche Bag" ...BAG

    I know the schedule was only just released, but do you know if and when the Bears will wear their orange uniforms this season?

    Tom W.
    Plainfield, Illinois

    It is my understanding that the Bears will not wear orange jerseys this season and instead will don their 1940s “Monsters of the Midway” throwbacks—navy jerseys with orange numbers—that they wore as their third alternate jersey in 2010. They likely will wear those throwback jerseys in two games this season, but that decision has yet to be determined. Personally, I’m a big fan of the 1940s look and don't really like the orange jerseys.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    I LOVE THAT MEAN ARSE LOOK of the 40's...

    ........but will miss the orange Jersey's..hey I don't remember do we don the dark blue pants with the orange jersey's..if not why the F%^$!@%%!K not?

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Personally, I liked the white on white road uniforms they used to wear back in the sixties/seventies. The dirt and grass stains (and bloodstains too) showed up better and made tthe players look like really tough, brawling guys.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    dis.... gusting.

    Really tobi?!?!?

    White? White's for pussies maings.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Colts. Colt pussies.

    Can we have a blog sweeps where we pick the week that Turtlehead gets measured for his wheelchair?

    I reckon by Christmas next year, Manning is doing his first commercial from his wheelchair talking with his Stephen Hawking voice.

    "Remember me, my name is Peyton Manning ... I was a douche ... but when I could feel my legs ... and my woman ... I reached for Trojan."

  • ha!

  • What did they have to lose by not signing him? Not near as much as Peyton himself I guess. This deal kinda reminds me of the Bears and Forte. Teams that won't cave in to the players they know vs teams that take a flyer on players they think they know. My guess is by week 4, Peyton will be sipping through a straw and Forte will be exposed as not worthy of the franchise tag while Bush gobbles up all the fantasy points.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Gosh MB, time get in touch with your feminine side. I'm not afraid to admit that the color yellow makes me sad. You shouldn't be, either:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ummm..... no

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Typical hard hitting questions from the Larry Mayer Fan Club.

  • Sometimes I think Dan Pompei and L.M. are the same guy.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    hhhhhhmmmmmm.....interesting I never see them at the same time being douche's.....possible evil twin's?

  • Hey Doc, at least this question could actually be answered factually and didn't have the typical "gag me" effect I normally get when reading them.

    Like this one from a 7 year old Bears fan I read the other day: Gee Uncle Larry, ah...... ah, is it true......ah..ah....does Jay really have a mole on his left ass cheek?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    tee hee hee......

  • shady... common maings.

    Come back and play... rabbit and I were getting it done tonight without you.

    I have a little surpise for you guys anyway.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i wanted to play last night but you were playing search and destroy. not my bag, then my sound went out.

    mystery links tonight as I drink manhattans and watch suga rashad retain his former glory????

  • looks like everyone in ChiTown was having connection issues. Same with shady.

    I will try, but we're getting PPV here. I'll see what I can... I mean some bastard hacker... might dig up.

  • Was not sure where to jump in the Big Mike thread, so I'll just post an afterword. Two guys called Strauss and Howe presented a cycle theory on history, I think it was called Generations (too late to look it up). I read a later book of the same vein called The Fourth Turning.

    Interesting stuff, IMO.

  • From Webb's interview on the Trib:

    "There definitely has been no pressure," Webb, 23, said with a hearty laugh.

    >> Well that's about to change son.

    "We want to be an elite line instead of an average line."

    >> You have a long way to go to be average JW. You're the worst in the business.

    "I definitely don't go home and cry about it," Webb said. "I can take constructive criticism."

    >> Then take this. Every LT in the business is above you. Where will you be on that list by the end of the season?

  • Burger King?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He'll have to flip burgers. His arms are too short to work drive thru.

  • How about this guy in a lower round? Rated 3rd center.,0,2405205.story

    41 reps at the combine to Konz' 18.

  • 3rd Rate, or rated 3rd?

  • Molk is a bad mofo. I wouldn't mind taking a later round flyer on him in the 4th if he was around....which he won't be.

  • Molk would be the new Kreutz.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    before he became the old Kreutz

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'd rather find the new Hilgenberg

  • How low can you go...maybe give them a Jake and Elwood rubber biscuit for him:

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Is this even in the cards for us?
    Does he have enough in the tank?
    Peanut to Safety if we take A.S.?
    Could E-Train have this his sleeve?

    Hold on tight to your jock strap...
    Same time Same channel...

    btw...this is for us oldies that remember this as kids

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    My favorite character was, "Cat Woman". Meow.......

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Tell me it wasn't inspired by this:

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Samuel is set to make $10M this year, 11M next. That's why they need to dump him. He can veto any trade by saying he's unwilling to renegotiate.

    He runs the risk of being waived by the Eagles, which they would certainly do rather than pay him.

    He knows he's not making 10M this year. Or ever again. He knows this. But if he holds the line, he can make 4 or 5.

    We only have about $2 to pay him. We could offer him a backloaded long term deal, which is what we would need to do to keep him. He's 31. Champ Bailey is 34. If you think Samuel is an upgrade to Jennings (he definitely is), you could guarantee him 10 with a 2-6-2 deal, but that is very very risky and probably a bad cap move.

  • I'm off to the airport; see everyone at the party in five days.

  • Im still on the Chandler Jones Bandwagon.. NFL mock draft has him going to Da Bears!

    And this coming from Todd Mcshay ""I think the most underrated player maybe in the entire draft and certainly among defensive linemen is Chandler Jones," said ESPN analyst Todd McShay. "I fell in love with him watching the East-West Shrine Game tape. I think he has so much upside. He's just scratching the surface."

    From The Detroit News:

  • In reply to OsosFan:

    Very possible if the Bears grade him in the top tier of pass rushers available. Unless there's a guy like Reily Reiff or Quinton Coples still available.

  • In reply to Shady:

    We've thrown so many names around, somebody HAS to fall.

    Trent Richardson seems to be headed way up there, as does Floyd. Somebody good will be at 19.

  • Fantasy Bears draft 1-2-3 for me:

    Brandon Thompson

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Mine would be:
    1 Marshall
    2 Cutler
    3 Bush

  • If we go DE and it comes down to Mercilus or Nick Perry, I'm in the Perry corner. He's young with a ton of upside. I think I'd always take the USC over the Illini if everything else seemed equal.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Ha, could Illinois rich bowl tradition blowouts have anything to do with that Murph?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Red Grange and Butkus played at Illinois. And just who played at USC?

  • Very tricky read here. Not sure what this article meant to convey other than that Phil's gonna do less of what Jerra did in the draft and more of what the Patsy's do. More of an emphasis on intangibles and under the radar value to the team scheme concept instead of individual talent focus would be my guess. Team depth vs isolated talent, hopefully a little bit of both. Could be that Phil drafts some players none of us knew were even out there. Hmm.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Yeah, that is interesting. I think this year Emery's keeping the same grading system (and same scouts), so it leaves one wondering how different the results are going to be.

    Then again, didn't JA ignore his scouts and go by his instincts?

    So not having his instincts around alone could improve our first day picks.

    What always baffled me was how JA could do well in the later rounds, but I think we all came to a consensus that JA relied more on his scouts and less on his instincts in the later rounds.

  • haha yeah you're probably right.

  • I've heard that JA was really into finding players with a high "floor" - meaning that you wouldn't get someone terrible even if there wasn't much upside.

    For a first round pick to not have much upside (take CW for example) you get upset. CW had some okay games and wasn't the worst tackle in the league, but you knew he was never going to become a true franchise LT. Likewise Olson.

    But in the later rounds (take Earl Bennett or J Webb as examples) the floor is a valuable piece. Bennett isn't going to be Randy Moss or Brandon Marshall or maybe even Wes Welker, but he's a serviceable WR that can get work in the league for 5-10 years as a Bear or elsewhere. In Cutler's words "he doesn't do anything amazing, but he does everything well, so you can put him anywhere and trust him to make a catch." High praise for a 3rd rounder. Webb started a season at LT despite being drafted in the 7th round. That's great considering a lot of 7s get cut in camp.

    So I think the floor theory probably contributed a lot to Angelo's record. Not sure how Emery will tweek, but looking forward to finding out.

  • I forget what mind altering agent goes with this one.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Love the Cramps. My friends from Vancouver used to always play an extended, speeded up version of Goo-Goo Muck.

  • I'm kinda in a freaky deaky mood today. I know, I regress.

    Hey Canada, what ya got? Anyone?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I was at a bar last night where the act there tried to cover this song. Holy shit, it was the worst cover I ever heard. They had no Bass.

    Yes, you heard correctly. They tried to cover this song WITHOUT A BASS.

    I had to finish my drink and leave.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Which one, the Phems or the Cramps? Please don't tell me the Cramps. Now that one would be brutal without bass.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    It's hard to find something more painful than a shitty cover band playing some of your favorite tunes. All you can think of is the original version (or the one you like) and how much you hate their version.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Trac, I grew up with a guy who played sax for the Violent Femmes. Not sure what him or the band are up to anymore. Trac, here's a song some of my friends did a few years ago, a ballad called Frat Boy Junkie. The lyrics are funny if you listen closely.

    Doc, you should like this one, a little ditty about a weed.

    By the way, loved some of your political commentary from the Viva thread. I personally enjoy the political commentary on here. Even though I rarely agree with MBHP or GP, both are still some of my favorite posters, and I like to hear the differing opinions.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Ha, after Canada's fine melodies, this made me feel like a glass of cold water being poured down my shirt. Buzz kill. I like freaky as long as it's not too busy. That's what happens when you grow old I guess.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Maybe this will warm you up. A fine modern melody, if you ask me.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    That's what I'm talkin bout. I like her voice. I'm a sucker for a strong voice like she has.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Across 110th Street blues baby. Pain, soul, sorrow.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Love Bobby Womack. Here's a couple of his other big hits.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Nice one, Trac. I like the way they sneak one verse of Willie Dixon's "I Just Want to Make Love to You" in there. Fun stuff!

    Here's a couple from one of my favorite guitarists;

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Now that's music that soothes the soul Canada. Love it. You can send some more of that my way anytime you want. Yes indeed.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Here's one of my all-time favorite singers.

    Great John Hiatt tune+kickass New Orleans Band+a fabulous singer=bliss.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Silky smooth Canada, but this guy ain't too bad either. How's this for a nightcap classic.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Doesn't get any better than the Rev! I've only seen him live once but it was awesome.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    That's some good shit.

  • really? REALLY? smh

  • After many manhattans last night and reading mock draft after mock draft after article after article I've decided that I want the following picks:

    1) John Martin OT Stanford
    2) Best DE on the board
    3) Molk C MIchigan
    4) 6'2 or taller WR

    I dont know if Molk will be there though.

    The other part of me thinks that the top 2 draft picks will be guys they expect to contend for starting spots immediately:


    Bears have to have a plan for DE since they don't want to waste Peppers and Melton seems to be stepping up in the middle. A bonified edge rusher would make our defense really scary for the pass happy offenses in the league.

    Bears have to have a plan for OT because coaches that make millions of dollars per year can't be blind to things that we everyday joes see very clearly: Webb blows cock, Louis sucks at Tackle, CW is a pussy but does decent at Guard, Spencer is a RG or C, Carimi is a real Tackle but has injury issues. Look for a OT for the Bears to solidify the offensive juggernaut that we will be this year.

    Bears have to have a plan for DT since Big Toe is a stop gap, career rotational player, Paea is an unknown since he was hurt last year in addition to being a rookie, Melton is a pass rushing Tackle that is undersized and we lost Amobi unexplicably since he signed for ONE FUCKING YEAR for almost the same thing we paid him last year. Look for the Bears to take one of the top 7 DT's if they are still on the board by round 2.

  • ha! or Emery will take a LB, WR or DB and I will look like a total fucking moron. Either way we are going to the superbowl so it doesn't even fucking matter. I can't wait until media has to blow Cutler.

  • i have a potty mouth.

  • Calling Erik... calling Erik.

    Where are you maings? Hopefully you've come out of your grief ok and are twittering away.

    Shady, where you at dude... gots a surprise for you (and the boys)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    rashad gonna shock the world tonight

  • that's what my buddy thinks

  • johnny... can you jump on now? Gots something to show you...

  • If we take kendal fucking wright over a good OT I will literally go take a shit on lovie's desk.

    Now, I don't put a single iota of belief in anything king says, but he is an insider, and lovie is a fucking moron, so....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    But Phil Emery doesn't look to be an moron so maybe everything will still work out...

  • This is fucking ridiculous and this fucking thug should never be allowed to play in the NFL. That is just fucking inane. Talk about pissing away a multi million dollar life opty. Fucking clown.

  • Hey Jeff...

    dabearsblog Feel sorry for non-soccer fans because Ray Hudson is the single greatest entity in sports. Listening to him announce a match is perfection.

    I got two words for you.... Phil Liggett

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Gotta agree, MB. When he's calling a big sprint finish and it's total chaos, he gets me totally wound up. I don't know how he keeps all those names straight.

    Don't have a clue who Jeff is talking about. I'm sure he's great but I'd rather paint the house than watch soccer.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I could never got excited about soccer, either. Very minimal interest in basketball and even less in hockey. Used to eat, drink and sleep baseball when I was a kid (we'd play it in the snow) but slowly morphed to exclusively football in my early twenties. The Bears are really the only professional sports team I follow. I'll occasionall check in on the White Sox but it reminds me of running into an old girlfriend twenty years later and after a few minutes of polite conversation, wondering why you ever got so worked up over her....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I still watch the Cubs once in a while. Just a couple innings at a time (or else I'm sound asleep. Could be a Cubs thing.) I HAVE to watch a little hockey just so people don't think I'm a godless commie. I haven't watched a basketball or college football game in close to 40 years. I do love bicycle racing but the only thing on up here is the Tour de France.

    Good call on the old girlfriend analogy.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Well, considering where you live, you'd have to be at least a bit informed on what's going on in hockey. On a side note, I once worked with a guy who played junior hockey against one of the Hanson brothers from Slap Shot:

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    That movie still makes me laugh. "Suzanne sucks pussy."

  • wow, playing the race card:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Huge Douglass is a dick who purposely took out Jim Miller in the 2001 playoffs. Fuck that idiot.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Couldn't agree more about Douglass. I'm still trying to figure out how he got away with that and nobody ever made a big deal over it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "You don't want to be racially sensitive to certain things..."

    Yeah, whatever.

  • ok, last one since I'm in here all alone.

    If shady wants us to go BPA, here is Scout Inc's rank of players only by grade from 1-32 (down on right side)

    Guess we're going to take Stephon Gilmore CB out of S. Carolina.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Can't imagine us spending a 1st round pick on a CB or a WR. It's gotta be OL or DL (possibly Kuechly if he falls in our lap).

  • In reply to CanadaBear:


  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Do you take Quentin Coples or Kuechly. I would have a really hard time making that decision.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Have no idea. If someone rated about 10 spots higher drops in our lap it's hard to pass on him. Everything I've read about Kuechly, he would be a starting LB for us for the next 10 years. I think we need a DE more than an LB but if they both end up being great players I'd be happy with either.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:,0,2086299.story

    The top rated ends all seem to have serious questions to answer.

    Mercilus isn't overly tall or big and only had one year of production, which was one of Bill Walsh's draft no-nos. He'd be a complete developmental job and wouldn't come straight in and start sacking the shit out of QBs.

    Coples has had his hunger and commitment questioned, but he's Pepper-sized.

    Ingram is 6'1 -that's his knock. A decent pass rusher by all accounts, quick, but can you be an effective end if you can't get those arms up there? He's had weight issues, so maybe if the BEars could control that he'd be more like an OLB.

    I like Perry out of them all - on film he looks more like the real deal than the others - but he'd need to learn the ways of the force under Maranelii for a while.

    They brought Irvin in for a chat and he's supposed to be the most explosive pass rusher but seems more like an OLB at 6-3, 245.

    Throw all of that into the mix and is there really a guy there that screams 'draft me', at 19? Not for me. But come the second round you might be thinking, 'hey, this dude fell to us at 51???' and you thank santa and make the pick. So it leaves us open to drafting a guy like Cox, Brockers or Poe - let's get our push up the middle with a quality tackle (Poe's strength,size and speed are hard to ignore, and block without a double team). Then we draft the best DE according to Maranelli in the second.

    We haven't drafted a good linebacker in about 8 years, so Kuechly is an auto-pick if he's there, but Hightower needs serious consideration. On tape he looks like a sledgehammer when he runs into the backfield, I don't care what the 'experts' say about his speed, he hits with a thump. If we could get Mychal Kendricks in a lower round that would be sweet, he'd be starting in no time opposite Briggsy - they can coach up his pass defense (Singletary sucked for two years at that).

    So for me :

    1. Kuechly / Hightower / Cox / Poe / Brockers
    (whoever Lovie/Yoda/Emery like...)

    2. Best DE.

    3. Molk / Kendricks (or some 6'4 WR that shouldn't have dropped so far)

    4. 6'4 WR that shouldn't have dropped so far / value OT for depth.

    No OT we draft is going in there to start and we need to win it all this year, it's NOLA, it'll be the Pats, the stars are aligned. Next season we can move mountains to find the franchise LT, or we'll hit it big in FA. This season was about finding a WR - we hit the jackpot there already, we'll fix the hole for good at LT next year.,0,7770494.story

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The third corner is now a starting in the NFL and if you want a good one you gotta spend a 1st rounder. Gilmore will most likely be gone before the Bears pick.

  • Alfonzo Dennard got arrested for punching a cop. He was expected to be a scond/third round pick I wonder what that will cost him over the length of his rookie contract if it drops him a few rounds?

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    It was a calculated risk. The rookie wage scale means Dennard (expected to go in round 2) won't lose more than $1-2 million on his rookie deal. But now, instead of a 3-4 year deal, he'll sign for just 1-2. If he can make it onto a team, and play like a pro-bowler, he figures he'll be a couple year closer to getting a sweet sophmore contract.

    Plus, when he signs the big contract, he'll be a well known name because of the draft week shenanigans and he can parlay the notoriety into a sponsorship deal. Maybe Cristal will be interested.

    Or maybe he just figures this is what it takes to get the Lions' attention for a first round pick.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I thought rookies now got a mandatory four year contract.....

  • Here's a nice breakdown of some top DEs.,0,2086299.story?track=rss

    Long story short.

    Coples. Ideal, except for his "laziness".

    Mercilus. A little undersized for a 4-3 DE. only one year producer.

    Upshaw. Short height (6'1) and limbs.

    Ingram. Looks more like a 3-4 LB.

    Perry. Underachiever?

    Chandler Jones. Not really dynamic - nagging injuries.

    Shea McCellin. Looks like a solid 3-4 LB (6'3 260) more than DE. GB and Pats really like him, so he might be that good.

  • If Quentin Coples falls to us I doubt we'll have to think hard about drafting him, even ahead of Michael Floyd or Jonathan Martin. The question is what about all the other DEs that could go in the first round. If Coples isn't available, is there anyone else that Emery could get excited about?

  • Yup, I prolly shoulda scrolled down first. Sorry.

    I wondered about McClellin maybe being Lac's replacement? He's one of the reasons we might want to consider swapping picks for the Pats 27th and 31st if nobody awesome is there at 19.

  • I just watched MI: Ghost Protocol for shits and giggles and realized: this is the exact same plot as MW3 Single Player Campaign.

  • In reply to gpldan:


  • In reply to gpldan:

    Laughing my ASS off. That was classic Gp, absolutely clasic.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The characterization was better in MW3.

  • Visions of Mercilus ripping the heads off of bug eye Rodgers and donut boy Stafford and screaming "Am I not merciful !?" a scene from GLADIATOR.

  • Sure hope somebody hacks into MB's account, as unfortunate as that would be.

  • sorry doc. forgot to take my machine to my buddy's house. Was kind of a boring main event. Some of the undercard fights were good.

    that rory mcDonald kid is a fucking animal. Jon Jones is just so freakish, tall and loooooong... reminds me a lot of the spider. Don't think he'll be beaten for a while.

  • Love the handle Doc. See you down in the Alter Egos bar after work.

  • Teams with the most All-Pros from 2002-2012

    Interesting to see which teams had the most coupled with winning percentage. Not surprisingly, a correlation emerged with some few anomalies.

    all pros winning %
    1) Pats 15 .769
    2) Ravens 13 .558
    3) Eagles 11 .662

    9) Bears 9 .512

  • .................all pros -----winning %
    1) Pats.........15---------- .769
    2) Ravens....13---------- .558
    3) Eagles .....11--------- .662

    9) Bears........ 9----------- .512


  • Well, chicken or egg? Players on winning teams have always had an advantage in all-star teams in every sport.

  • Here is a questions for all:

    Are we measured by the strength of the Man's heart, our the lack there of, of his trainers and team.......

    Where do are trainers rank with the other 31 teams...I wonder?

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    How do they rank trainers?

  • actually a decent analysis:

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    As the author pointed out, a team's weakness or strength the previous year doesn't necessarily carry over into the next year (SF/Indy for example). I would love to have the time to go back and compile data on how projected "Strength/Weakness of Schedule" actually panned out for teams...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    tobi...agree...I would love to see that data also.

  • 1st Round Prediction Time;
    I propose we have a contest amongst ourselves for austerity sake to see who knows his shit. I'm gonna keep it simple, who do you think the Bears 1st pick will be.? No makeovers or do overs, once you ink a post, it's final.

    Drum roll..................and "MY" selection for the Bears 1st pick in the 2012 NFL draft is..........................

    Dre Kirkpatrick CB out of Alabama

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Well, I don't know my shit so I'm disqualifying myself. So you're thinking that of everybody discussed here as the Bears' possible first pick, Dre will be the BPA at #19 despite the fact that there are four servicable Cover 2 corners already on the roster?

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    You wouldn't draft Dre K cause we have Tillman, Hayden, Jennings and Moore? I don't know about you but the only guy I see that I wouldn't start Kirkpatrick over would be Tillman. If you were GM for a day, how could you be happy with that lineup in our division this year let alone next year? This pick makes sense because if we don't do better job covering the Packers wide outs, our D will not be able to slow them down with or without a bookend for Peppers. Surely you remember how easily the Saints and the Cheese walked up and down the field on us at the beginning of last years season. I believe part of Phils strategy has to be to find a way the beat the Packers and I can't think of a better way to do that than to improve our secondary. And that's my final answer.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I have absolutely no problem with the Bears drafting Dre K if the Emery believes he can start next to Tillman. Emery and his crew have done a lot more work than I have scouting these guys. If they think Dre can come in, start, and be an impact player, then sign him up.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Your points are valid and I'm not arguing or disagreeing that he wouldn't be a good pick at #19 or work well for the Bears, just wondering if the Bears would take him there considering their philosophy on the true value of corners in their scheme..

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Urlacher was quoted as saying that he felt the Bears had done such a good job in FA this year that he believed they were going to be able to draft BPA this year. Sounds good to me Brian.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I'm not sure who the player is at this point (Kendall Wright and Whitney Mercilus are my top two guesses). But I'll make a different prediction instead:

    I predict that the Bears do not pick at #19. Emery will trade up for Reiff, Floyd or Coples or trade down and take Randle, Hill or Hightower.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I hope indeedy that you are right on Reiff NB but alas no, I don't see Phil wanting to give up what it would cost him to move up for Reiff. Phil might move up 2 or 3 spots to snatch a player up he really wants but he won't want to do more than that. I think he's gonna take this draft as a personal challenge to make every last pick count.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Reiff would have to fall past #10 for us to consider grabbing him. But stranger things have happened.

    If the second tackle drafted is Martin or Adams, and then the third O-lineman taken is DeCastro. Now it looks like Reiff could be around in the low teens. Do I think that will happen? No. Could it happen? Every year.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Reiff has short arms. Many ppl compare him to Costanzo or Bulaga, projected more as a RT.

    We already have a short armed white RT.

    This is why Reiff might fall. That is why JewBear fell to us in the first place.

    I would argue JewBear is more of a LT than Reiff. Stronger, better technician, but the feet are not as nimble, perhaps.

    OT Martin is a little bit more like Solder who is slated to protect Brady, but he's not as athletic.

  • Gabe should be playing LT and Lance should be playing RT, I don't get what the problem is. All I know is that Webb needs to be sitting on the fkn bench.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I've seen Reiff below us in a few mocks. I'd prefer to see us trade down with the Pats and get two good players in the first.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    No idea who the first pick will be because I don't know who's on the board. Who do I want? Kuechly, or Poe if he's not there. Who will they draft that is there? I guess they go with Merciless, we need an end more than anything else. Hope it would be Perry over Merciless though.

  • Whitney Mercilus DE Illinois.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I don't why I feel this way about Mercilus Canada but to me, he just seems like a ho hum pick at 19.

  • J. Martin OT Stanford

    For God's sake Emery please don't make me and Jay go through another season with the same shit offensive line as the last two years. We'd be in the superbowl 2 years in a row if they had just drafted some fucking linemen and got aggressive in FA for OL.

  • This is why I hate picking 19th. It's just so damn hard to get a steal at that spot. If Martin can revert to 2010 form, he will be a solid pick.


    Who knows if this is another smoke screen or not, but it does look to be true that Fleener is not a good blocking TE. Based on what I've seen, he looks a lot like Greg Olson 2.0 to me.

    Kellen Davis can block. I've heard him called a "right tackle who's playing TE." If he can also catch (we'll see this year) then we have our starter for the forseeable future. Fleener can go elsewhere.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Yup, I read that earlier. Let me put it this way, for Emery to draft a TE in the first or 2nd round, he BETTER be the 2nd coming of Ditka. No worries mate, this guy will not be a Bear before round 4.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Although I think the kid has nice potential, I think there will be an obvious choice like Mercilus or Martin available at 19.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I'm a big Kellen Davis fan, but I wouldn't put blocking on his resume mang. Getting down-field and making insane catches, yes. Blocking, no.

    Martz' madness just knew no bounds. Don't use your TEs. No audibles. Fit the players in the scheme, not scheming for your players. Drop your QB way back but don't protect him. Hester suffered, Cutler suffered, and Kellen suffered because of it. Forte gained from it, bigtime.

    Emery's not dumb enough to draft a TE in the first round. We have five on the roster, and this guy is going to have his breakout year with everyone worried about covering Marshall.

  • Damn, he looks like Chewbacca playing football with Ewoks.

  • So based on comments in the past few weeks, these are the players that I see our board considering as potential picks for #19 (Reiff, Floyd, Coples, Kuechley, etc are not on the list because they are expected to be gone):

    1) Kendall Wright (WR)
    2) Stephen Hill (WR)
    3) Jonathan Martin (OT)
    4) Peter Konz (C)
    5) Dontari Poe (DT)
    6) Michael Brockers (DT)
    7) Whitney Mercilus (DE)
    8) Nick Perry (DE)
    9) Dont'a Hightower (LB)
    10) Dre Kirkpatrick (CB)
    11) Marc Barron (S)

    Have to be honest. There is not one player on this list, given the skill set and position, that would not make our team better if those skills can continue to improve into an NFL caliber player.

    But Hill, Martin, Mercilus, Poe, Perry and Barron are all considered risky picks. These are all players that either scheme-wise or skill-wise might not do what we need them to do for our team.

    Konz, Wright and Brockers are honestly victims of their position and their draft class. There are a lot of good WRs this year, likewise inside linemen on both sides of the ball. Emery could look elsewhere and rely on the depth of the draft to pick for those spots.

    So that leaves us with Dre Kirkpatrick and Dont'a Hightower as BPA. Given the choice... I lean toward Kirkpatrick. Corners are tougher to get in FA lately, and I just feel he would be a great upgrade for our D without sacrificing our identity. Plus, we just picked up a young LB free agent in Geno Hayes.

    But my preference would be Coples, Floyd or Kuechly if any of those three is available.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    We can trade with the Pats and get almost any two of those players. Konz benching 18 reps to Molk's 41 is worrying though. I know he's rated the best center, but what happened there? Maybe he was sick.

    But trading down, we could get Hightower AND Perry. bang. Fuck you NFCN, that's the division title right there, we've got the offense in the bag. I'd take any two of those guys bar the top three, and Dre because of his off-the-field stuff.

    Maybe grab Hill if we got Poe too, then grab best pass rusher in rd 3. It's great having Marshall, but if he goes down all we've got is midgets. Roy's gone baby. Roy's gone.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I love it NB. Solid post. If Dre is available, I think he offers the best upside to Phil's legacy. Our secondary has to get better and even though you could suggest that Phil eliminated CB as a need position by signing Hayden and Jennings, I think he will be hard to pass up if he's still on the board. If you draft Hightower, would he be able to start this year?


    Walter now has us taking Michael Brockers, which would be fine. But... interesting trade scenario to consider.

    First 18 go as in Walter's draft. Bears at 19 trade down to 22 with the Browns in exchange for a 3rd or 4th. With 22 we take Hightower.

    Then we send our 2nd plus the newly gotten Browns pick to the Patriots to come back into the first round at 31 or possibly even involve a third team and come in closer to 36. With that pick we select Jerel Worthy.

    We then use our remaining picks to go:
    3) Casey Hayward (CB)
    4) Nick Toon (WR)
    5) David Molk (C)
    6) Malik Jackson (DE/DT)
    7) Vince Browne (DE)

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    New Bear - I would love to see some draft day strateegery but would like any moves to result in us taking two high ranking OL or one OL one DL. I still think letting Okoye go was a stupid move. We could have kept him for nothing as a proven entity, made moves to secure two 1st round picks of a first and a high second rounder to secure 2 OL or an OL and CB/WR

  • Clearly Maranelli didn't think Okoye was worth shit - it wouldn't exactly have broken the bank to keep him. There's a reason why he didn't and it's only known to those that know.

    I smell a Poe draft if he's there.

    Think about it. Suh goes 2nd overall. Poe is 40lbs heavier, faster and much stronger. He "hasn't got it on tape" ? Who cares? You have to double team him or he'll collapse the middle of your pocket on every single play. Maranelli is the master DL teacher by all accounts - not a coach, a teacher.

    Does Suh deserve to go #2, and Poe that much lower? Could you block both Peppers and Poe? That's 4 linemen taken out of the equation on every passing down, which leaves one lineman to block the other tackle and end, and any blitzing LB or DJ Moore.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I still would prefer either CB Trumaine Johnson or CB Josh Robinson in the 2nd/3rd, but Hawyard sounds solid (just avg height though).

    I like WR at 4 - that's where I'd prefer the Bears to take one since there's so much depth. However, Tommy Streeter deserves serious consideration. His size and speed are comparable to Hill, and we need someone like that to stretch the field since we already have Bennett as a possession receiver.

    Molk is also solid, but personally, I'd take a LT hand picked by the master. Zebrie Sanders or Nate Potters (both could play G) come to mind, although they may be closer to 4rth rounders.

    LB Audi Cole and TE Ladrius Green deserve a look around the 5th.

    After that, really we're just filling depth and sp teams, so I'm game for nearly anyone grades accordingly.

  • Also interesting, Walter has Detroit taking Dennard in the 5th. I think they'd take him in the 4th personally...

  • Have to say I really like us taking Casey Hayward in the 3rd. Another Vandy guy, and he's got great technique. Doesn't shy from playing the run, needs to work on wrapping up a bit with his tackling, but some solid skills. Could really do well in the cover-2.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    i do agree that pretty much any of those kids selected will make the team better. I love the draft. what shiny new toys will we receive?

  • Brian, mang, seriously, WTF are you doing ? You should be banging hot young women two at a time, not some decrepit MILF.

    Here come da baby ....,0,2168174.column

  • I would be loathe to go any place Jim Carrey had been.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I wonder who has the most tread left on thier tires, Lach or her?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Her uterus is probably more akin to a clown's pocket.

  • Christmas is just around the corner girls. It's beginning to feel a lot like Christmas.....................

  • 3 Days 8 Hrs 15 minutes.

    Just watched the Food Inc documentary. One to watch with the kids and mull over. Great stuff.

    See the tag-closage on that Doc? Tag closed like it ain't no thang. Sheeeet.

  • Is today's Sun times article a coded message being sent by Big Bird?

    The lines are narrow to read in-between here. Could this mean they would skip over a corner like Dre because of his off the field issues? That Emery is fearful he'll turn the Bears into the Bengals? I think it may all be smokescreen.

    Make a big press run about how you only want character guys, and then grab BPA.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    If I may GP, let me have a go at translating this article.

    Phil believes boys will be boys(not chior boys) and if they do have some doozies in the closet, they better be ballers before he even thinks about it bringing them to Chicago. I think this is a fair approach. If Dre is BPA and they have the typical immaturity question marks next to his name, they will draft him.

  • I also agree with NBIT's analysis and his conclusions. Although, given the FA we just signed to compete with Roach at strong side, the only reason one takes Hightower at this stage is to breed Lack's replacement if you think he may go down to injury this year.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    We need Lac's replacement in line BEFORE anything happens to Lac, which is my major concern with the leagues 31st rated center last season, Senor Roberto Garza.

    April Santa brings us Kuechly, please.

  • "“The biggest concern I have is that we’re ready for no matter what the scenario is...Emery said, adding, “That that player that we end up picking regardless of it’s at 19 or a trade-up or trade-down scenario, no matter what happens around us that we’ve figured out how to get a good player.”

    Emery said. “We’ll do whatever it takes for us to get the best players that we feel can get us closest to the championship in the fastest way possible. There is a sense of urgency. We want to be as good as we can be this year.”

    This is GREAT news. I love that we're getting offers to move-up and down. If Emery can squeeze an extra 2nd and draft one of those "7 targets" I'd be ecstatic. This draft class may not be spectacular at the top, but it has a lot of value in the 2nd 3rd rounders.

    Owning the 19th pick gives us a bit of flexibility. Emery can see if a stud like Kuechly, Cox or Coples falls to that slot, and if it doesn't, then we can trade down because some team might want to pick up a CB or even QB before the Browns or Bengals who pick after us.


    Given our system and need, I would guess these are our 1st round graded targets (who are draftable near 19 or later).

    1) DT Cox (We could trade a little up for)
    2) LB Keuchly
    3) DE Coples
    4) CB Gilmore
    5) SS Barron
    6) WR Wright (We could trade back a bit for)
    7) LB/DE McClellin (We could trade back a bit for)

  • Outstanding...count me in!

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