Emery's Risk/Reward Draft Selections to Slide Under Microscope in Bourbonnais

Emery's Risk/Reward Draft Selections to Slide Under Microscope in Bourbonnais

There were safer picks than Boise State's Shea McClellin available with the nineteenth selection of the 2012 NFL Draft. Illinois' Whitney Mercilus and Syracuse's Chandler Jones both seemed logical choices to put their hands on the ground as 4-3 edge rushers in Lovie Smith's system but Phil Emery and the folks at Halas Hall instead opted for a speed threat most had projected to OLB in a 3-4. (Ironically, or perhaps not, Mercilus and Jones ended up in the 3-4 systems of Wade Phillips and Bill Belichick respectively.) It was a move made without fan and media consensus and signaled a change in draft day philosophy at the highest levels of the Chicago Bears organization.

I don't know if Shea is going to be a great player, worthy of first round status. I don't know if Alshon Jeffery is going to be the go-up-and-get-it red zone threat Emery targeted when trading up in the second room. I don't know if Brandon Hardin's remarkable speed and athleticism will enable him to overcome the injuries that plagued his career at Oregon State. I don't know if Evan Rodriguez will be the Aaron Hernandez/Chris Cooley type Emery believes will be a participant in the base offense - a coup for a fourth round pick. (I can't go crazy with Isiah Frey, Greg McCoy or UFA James Brown. If they produce anything for the Bears my applause will be deafening.)

What I do know is Phil Emery placed a premium on that which he reiterated ad nauseum during his introductory press conference: playmaking ability. The Bears chose four players, in four positions of need, they believe are going to alter the course of football games. McClellin and Hardin disrupting the high-powered pass games of Green Bay and Detroit. Jeffery and Rodriguez  providing General Cutler with battlefield artillery and displaying the almost miraculous, newly discovered commitment to supporting the franchise quarterback.

Also telling were the decisions NOT made. Until signing feel good (I knew that he would) free agent tackle James Brown of Troy, Emery and company ignored the pleas of the fans and media and ignored the offensive line for seven rounds. As Mel Kiper-adored Bobby Massie of Ole Miss plummeted round-after-round, Emery had every opportunity to offer an olive branch to those clamoring for the head of J'Marcus Webb. He balked. Right or wrong this team believes in their offensive line. They believe in the unit that anchored 2,014 yards rushing among three backs in 2011. They believe in the unit that allowed only five sacks over Cutler's last five games. They believe the return of Chris Williams and Gabe Carimi from injury will mean significant improvement in 2012.

This was Emery's draft. These were his guys and he's staked his reputation on them. His first four draft picks for the Chicago Bears bear his stamp by their unpredictability and  the all-too-common risk/reward factor. If they fail on (or off) the field  the pressure next spring will be thicker and tenser than Emery's ever experienced in his professional career. If they hit the moping and complaining that have filled the Chicagoland air over these past few days will sound like the puny cries of kitten on a crowded city street in years to come. If you draft well, and you win, you're given years to fail. That goes for football drafting and movie directing and cocktail mixing.

Should Emery's picks need to succeed in 2012? No. Do they? Most likely. The Jerry Angelo tenure has forced most of the Bears faithful to look at whomever is making the personnel decisions with a raised eyebrow. Too much Dan Bazuin and Michael Haynes. When camp opens in Bourbonnais this summer most media members and fans will have their eyes fixed on four individuals: McClellin, Jeffery, Hardin, Rodriguez. How they perform there and beyond will tell us whether Phil Emery is the man to bring the Lombardi Trophy back to Chicago.

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  • First?

  • In reply to Jokey:

    After further review your red flag challenge for questioning your first..is......you lose one full time out and must take a 90 hours course of the :"Gifted LDL Red Flag Challenge Class"...

    that is all.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Yeah that was lame. So I tried to follow up with a real post but got distracted. Here it is, delayed: I don't think O-line is a big deal (ducks). We racked up a lot of sacks late with Hanie and McCown (who was sacked 5 times against a motivated Allen).

    I've read mostly negative feedback on the draft. I'm wondering if readers here think Emery picked a DE in the first round because he had d-line in mind, and that after 5 were picked between picks 11-18, he paniced and picked McClellin, when he should have taken best available, who was clearly . I dunno, I think that that's the most pessimistic interpretation of it.


  • In reply to Jokey:

    "he paniced and picked McClellin, when he should have taken best available".

    Jokey, from the last statement a question comes.. Who was the best aviable???? Reiff? he is a white Chris Williams version...it should be Ingram but gone one pick before... I think the best right now is wait to see and give Emery the benefy of the doubt.

  • I just hope he was right on McClellin. We cant stand another first round choice that disappoints. We need him both healthy and productive his first year. We dont seem to get both. Either they suck like Haynes, or are injured like Carimi and Williams. If our first two choices are prodcutive this season, we as fans will be ecstatic!!

  • See, that dang Jokey grabs it with a one worder, our time line is suckin here lately.

  • I woulda claimed a first, but the way this blogs been posting, that comment may end up showing up 10 posts down.

  • Artoo, we are gonna have to send some recon out for Posse. His silence is starting to look a little troublesome. Hopefully his family time in Chicago and his travels back home have been keeping him busy. BROWNIEEEEE WHERE ARE YOU?

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    I'm guessing he's on his way back home. After a big night out and possibly a hangover (have no idea), it was probably lots of family time and back home.

    I'm totally jealous of you guys getting together. If there was any way possible I'd love to be there. I know I'd have a gas talking Bears and kidding around with the group.

    Emery did such a great job leading up to the draft I think everyone thought he would knock the draft out of the park. He may have, we just don't know. Many posters like me have no idea about these guys and just go on the info from the "draft gurus" and the media (who basically regurgitate the draft gurus). When Emery didn't pick either our favorite players or the supposed best player available, we're disappointed.

    After all the pre-draft maneuvering, if Emery hits on the first 4 picks, we could be dancing a jig at the end of the season. I can't get over we have a true #1 WR at 6'4", another guy at 6'3", a new TE that just might be a true weapon, a more than solid backup RB and backup QB.

    If the OL really is OK this year (a huge IF), this more than likely will be the most explosive Bears offense in my our lifetimes (considering that you and me are two of the more seasoned posters, that's saying something). I can't wait for the season to start!

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    In reply to CanadaBear:

    I've been a Bears' fan my whole life. My first game was at Wrigley Field in 1967. Bears played the Lions and #40 ran for a lot of yards. My Dad and I sat in the left field bleachers. These were endzone seats.

    The Bears have never had as much offensive potential at the start of a season. Case closed.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Very cool. I didn't see my first Bears game live until the mid to late '70's. I've been a fan since the early '60's. Watched every game on TV for a lot of years. I can still remember watching the '63 championship and the Bears just pounding Y.A. Tittle. Great stuff! It's a shame the younger posters never got to see Sayers and Butkus game in and game out. The highlights are fantastic but watching them every game was unreal. Most of the younger posters have no idea that Sayers had a million long runs called back because George Seals was always getting called for holding. I think most posters would cut Gale a lot of slack if they had seen him play all the time. The only thing they've ever experienced first hand is Gale's rather blunt assessments of the team. I don't think anything of his unfiltered comments about the team but a lot of posters just think he's a crabby, bitter old man.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Before people talked about players being "beasts", there was Butkus. Crazy good.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Even the last couple of years when his knees were gone, he would still blow somebody up every game. It was painful to watch those last couple of years when the other teams were constantly setting him up and cheapshotting him.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I wish there was more of that stuff on Youtube, Canada. Of course there weren't any VCRs back then so fans can't upload. I don't know wht the NFL don't make those games available somehow - don't they have them. Make it an NFL Rewind Classic, or something. It would be nice to see football before it became flag football.

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    In reply to CanadaBear:

    CB, Sayers is a grumpy dude. The Bears were quite an anomaly with Sayers and Butkus. They were an average team with the two best players in the game.

    Thanks for bringing up George Seals I had successfully forgotten him. I'd say there were 4 maybe 5 runs called back of 30+ yards one year alone.

    Sayers was special. He cut without losing speed, he appeared to have this one move where he went backwards at full speed, while moving forward. The truth of it is, he would stop and restart and be back at speed so suddenly it created an illusion.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    No doubt about the grumpy part but if anyone ever earned the right to rip on the Bears, it's Sayers. Worst medical staff ever (in his day). Totally agree about his running style. Walter was a better all-round football player but nobody was a more elusive runner. Imagine if Sayers had a decent OL and good knees.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Went to my first game in, I think, 1980. I don't remember if they won or lost or who they even played as I had smuggled in about a dozen of those Hublein Bocchi Ball cocktails. About all I do remember after waking up a day later that it was f'ing cold....

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    i got to see my 1st
    game at wrigley also
    that was after
    about 6 years
    of laying under
    the dining room table
    listening to the call
    by jack brickhouse
    i believe in my meager
    football mind
    that this is the best O
    going into a season
    that i ever have heard of
    we have had better players
    in certain spots
    but this is a calvalcade of talent
    across the board
    not many soft spots

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Yup, even in SB XX the offense looked pretty anaemic, to the point where they were sending Biscuit out into the flat looking to pass the ball. The first 349lb QB in the NFL. We are tooled up to explode on offense this year. Can't wait. We look good everywhere .... save for the line - but it's like an aging hooker - mightn't look too hot but she'll get the job done.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    CB, where about in Canada are you located now? I think you've said before but my memory is not like Trac's....

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Calgary. Home of the Stampede.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Ah, so other than games in Seattle, you're looking at a loooooong haul...do you attend CFL games then?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I've gone to a few. The players don't make squat up here due to the salary cap. The good thing is you can go to a game for $20. Happy Henry Burris was the QB for the Stamps the last few years and won a Grey Cup a couple of years ago. There's no comparison, talent-wise between the two leagues but the games are still fun in person. Don't watch much CFL action on TV. The fans are pretty much the same. Let's just say that beer sales are brisk.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    i think he's just hanging out with his bros murph. if hes not back by wed/thurs, i'll start worrying too

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Here's footage of Posse hanging with his Bros


  • lol - we are dirty black Irishmen...the resemblance ends there.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Murph, was awesome getting to meet you Thursday - sorry for not chiming in but as per below, was toodling around Chicago with the family in tow all week.
    Other than my voice being shot for most of Friday, I was in good shape. My brothers dragged me out before I could really tie one on.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    MB, Murph...thanks, gents. Too much fun.

  • Do you guys know why Redneck murders are always the hardest to solve? All the DNA is the same and there are no dental records.


  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    If you divorce your wife in WV, is she still your sister?

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Every state law is different.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    lol... awesome.especially from a Canuck!

  • A Scotsman, a Brit and an Irishman are bragging about their fave pubs. The Scotsman says at his pub after 4 drinks the 5th one is free. The Brit says that's nothing, at his pub after 2 drinks the 3rd one is free. The Irishman laughs and says at his bar all the drinks are free and at the end of the night they take you upstairs and get you laid. The Brit is dubious and asks, "You know this personally?" The Irishman replies, "No, but it's happened to my sister numerous times."


  • In reply to CanadaBear:


  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Technically Scots are Brits, but I'm just yanking your chain. I liked that. Good stuff.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    LOL, not if you asked any Scot I knew...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Dy ooooobviously never watched Bravehart. Sheesh.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm from Scotland!

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    oh, uhhhh... right....

    ...uhhhhhh... then you probably know a bit more than I do about it, because Mel Gibson is my history book: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJGPLjm-fjo

    God bless america

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    The Stone of Destiny!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Is it bad that I had to look that up?

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Nah. I didn't know anything about it until I watched the movie.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    HAH !

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Englishman, Scottsman, Irishman walk into a bar and order 3 Guinness. 3 flies come in through an open window and land one in each beer.

    Englishman says, "That's disgusting!" and pushes his beer away.
    Scottman shrugs, flicks fly out of the foam, and takes a sip.
    Irishman pinches fly between thumb and forefinger, shakes fly above his drink, and screams, "Spit it out, you bastard!"

  • In reply to Jokey:

    Good one! My dad's family all came from Ireland a couple of generations before him. Lots of jokes about the Irish. There's a reason I don't drink alcohol. All the jokes are way too close to home!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • A husband and wife are shopping at the mall on X-mas Eve. The place is packed and the wife loses track of her husband. They have a bunch of gifts to buy and she's pissed. She calls his cell phone in a big huff and demands to know where he is. He says, "Remember that jewelery store where you fell in love with that diamond necklace and I said I'd buy it for you when I'd saved up enough money?" The wife gets all gooey and says "Yesssssssss". The husband replies, "I'm in the bar right next door."


  • The Bears on Sunday agreed to terms with 11 undrafted free agents.


    The list consists of Wyoming running back Alvester Alexander, Troy offensive tackle James Brown, Old Dominion defensive tackle Ronnie Cameron, Louisiana Tech linebacker Adrien Cole, Maine safety Trevor Coston, Western Illinois receiver Terriun Crump, West Texas A&M receiver Brittan Golden, Auburn tackle A.J. Greene, Wayne State safety Jeremy Jones, Liberty receiver Chris Summers and Southern Miss linebacker Ronnie Thornton.

    James Brown
    Brown was ranked as the second best undrafted free agent available by NFL.com senior analyst Gil Brandt and Scouts Inc. The 6-3½, 306-pounder was a three-year starting left tackle at Troy.

    According to Pro Football Weekly’s 2012 Draft Preview, Brown has the frame to support 330 pounds, is extremely athletic, and plays on his feet with good balance and body control. The publication reports that he possesses starting-caliber traits at both tackle and guard.

    Alexander rushed for 2,127 yards and 27 touchdowns on 477 carries in three seasons at Wyoming, including 695 yards and six TDs on 152 attempts last year as a junior.

    Cameron, a defensive tackle, played his final two seasons at Old Dominion after transferring from Hofstra. Last year he compiled 73 tackles, 17 tackles-for-loss and 6½ sacks.

    Cole, a linebacker, was a three-year starter and team captain at Louisiana Tech. Last season he recorded 128 tackles, 13 tackles-for-loss, one interception that he returned 45 yards for a touchdown, two sacks, five pass breakups, one forced fumble and three blocked kicks.

    PFW reports that Cole is thickly built with good strength and possesses good instincts, but lacks ideal height and length as well as the speed to cover tight ends down the middle of the field.

    Coston, a safety, was a first-team all-conference selection as a punt returner and a second-team choice as a defensive back last season when he averaged 9.7 yards per punt return and recorded six interceptions.

    Crump, a receiver from the Chicago area, attended Rich Central High School and College of DuPage before enrolling at Western Illinois, where he had 135 receptions for 2,067 yards and 11 touchdowns in three seasons. Last year as a senior he caught 61 passes for 944 yards and 6 TDs.

    Golden, a receiver, caught 55 passes for 1,076 yards and 12 touchdowns as a senior at West Texas A&M, the same school that produced Bears 2010 seventh-round pick J’Marcus Webb.

    Greene, a tackle from Auburn, rebounded as a senior after missing most of his junior season with a broken ankle.
    University of Phoenix

    Jones, a safety, was a highly productive four-year starter at Wayne State. Last season he registered 106 tackles, nine interceptions, 12½ tackles-for-loss and 6½ sacks. PFW describes him as a “short, intense, athletic Division II ballhawk with an energetic playing temperament who supports the run.”

    Summers, a receiver from Liberty, posted back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons, catching 76 passes for 1,081 yards and 15 touchdowns as a junior in 2010 and 64 passes for 1,014 yards and seven TDs as a senior in 2011.

    Thornton, a linebacker, led Southern Miss with 111 tackles last season while also amassing 8½ tackles-for-loss, one sack, two interceptions and a forced fumble. In four seasons, he compiled 290 tackles, 25 tackles-for-loss, four sacks, five forced fumbles, three fumble recoveries and two interceptions.

  • In reply to Z Bearz:

    Hmm, only on DT to replace the two no longer with us. Guess they're expecting a few currently on someone else's roster to show up prior to camp...

  • In reply to Z Bearz:

    My money's on:

    DT Cameron. He produced like crazy in college, but he had surgery on both of his knees. Still, we didn't bring in any other DTs in FA and didn't draft any (I can't remember the last time the Bears didn't draft a DT - anyone remember?)

    OT/G Brown. Apparently, Emery graded this guy out higher than Massie or Potter. He looks like a solid prospect, but he's only 6'3. I don't know of any OT off the top of my head who is 6'3. Then that would make him a G - how many of those do we have now?

    LB Thorton. Again, didn't draft a LB. He's very undersized under 6'0 about 230, but he's nothing more than a sp teamer (again, how many of those do we have now?)

  • T'would be crazy cool if Brown becomes our LT equivalent of Jay Hilgenberg.

  • In reply to Z Bearz:

    Saw a few of these guys on YT. Summers is 6'5 but he didn't look great on film, definite long-term project, not that he'll make the final roster anyway. The DT Cameron was blowing people up, but what Division are Old Dominion? Adrien Cole is tiny, and James Brown wishes he was J'Marcus Webb.

  • I just don't get the 7th rd pick...Denard from Nebraska was still available and we chose McCoy. Denard had a better draft grade and at the very least could have given a little bit more on Def instead of just on the ST.

    I like the Jeffery pick a well as the O St kid but I think this draft could have been more solid...there were alot more quality players left on the board when we picked each time.

  • In reply to BEARDOWN IOWA:

    Bears will never draft a player that assaulted someone. Belichick is the kinda guy that takes that risk though, and his owner trusts him fully.

    I have no complaints with the draft other than the CB in the 7th. Even though they obviously wouldn't I agree that they should have taken a flyer on Denard. I trust the E-train. and even if the last picks don't pan out, we've still got a #1 WR, a #2 WR , more depth at Safety and an outside blocker TE with potential. I'd say that's pretty solid, when combined with our current roster.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    I think DYL is correct here, the character stuff was just too much even if Dennard beats the recent criminal charges.

    I just think it would have been hillarious to see a the WR and CB who got ejected from the senior bowl end up playing for the same team.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Dunno if 'beat' is the best word when we're talking about Dennard.....

    I think we'd have something a la 2008


  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Assaulted a police officer, no less. Dennard might start off the season in jail or suspended, which is why he fell all the way to the 7th.

    I think the Bears after Scar Face Hurd and the alleged "assault" of Marshall did the political not football move in avoiding Dennard.

    Billichick, as always, just cares about the football. There's a reason he's been in 5 SBs...

  • In reply to BEARDOWN IOWA:

    Dennard's just been arrested hasn't he? I found the pick astonishing too, given that Molk was on the board and we already had, y'know, 7 corners on the roster at the time.

    Whose draft grades are they though? The only ones that count are the Bear's scouts grades. Mayock gave us a B or a B+, that'll do.

  • Said it before and I'll say it again. McCoy in the 7th was an attempt to find the next Corey Graham. He'll compete for a CB spot for a year or two, but the expectation is that he'll earn his paycheck playing gunner.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    He also was pretty good kick returner although with the new rules, I guess that doesn't mean much anymore. From the Bears site:

    "...McCoy was also a top kick returner, averaging 28.9 yards with three touchdowns on 52 returns. The Dallas native was named Mountain West special teams player of the year last season as a senior after averaging 30.6 yards with two TDs on 37 kickoff returns. His two scores came on returns of 99 yards against UNLV and 94 yards versus Louisiana-Monroe."

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    We've got about 5 solid kick returners on the roster now, not including Johnny Knox. And one of those guys is Devin Hester. We're not looking for returners, we're looking for defenders.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    didn't he average about 30 per
    if knox is gone
    and there is some sparkle
    in practice and pre season
    with punt returns
    maybe he becomes
    help if hester gets leg trouble
    has his eggs scramble for a few series
    i for one do not want
    a bench mob that looks
    like the apple dumpling gang
    coming in to do a 2011
    all over again

  • http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=8782

    Emery looks at Isaiah Frey as someone who will compete for the #5 cornerback job. He looks at McCoy as a special teams pickup.

    I think D.J. Moore's days are numbered based on the interview though. Tillman is #1, Jennings is #2, FA pickups Hayden and Wilihite are #3&4 competing for the 2 spot. We just drafted two more guys to compete for the #5 spot; a #6 would only go to a true special teams standout if it exists.

    Anyone see a spot for D.J.?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Unless they out perform Dj, I am sure he will keep his spot.

    Has Dj become a liability now?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Dj was solid last year and is probably our best nickel CB. There's no guarantee mind. I'd hate to see him go, he's a good #3/#4 CB and he's young. Hayden is 29 i think and has been banged up a bit. I'll admit I know nothing about Wilhite, the only Broncos game I watched last year was the Barber fumBowl.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    I'm just hoping that the competition between the 6-8 guys we brought in yields a solid DB lineup. Likewise for safety. This is a position we've spent entirely too many mid-round picks on.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Sackmaster general, I don't know how they lose DJ. He's a gem.

    We only have 3 DTs plus Ronnie Cameron by the way. Izzy could be going back inside.

  • I also think Emery made a promise to Toub to do a better job getting help on special teams. This is a lot more than Angelo ever did.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I thought that was one of the things Angelo did fairly well. I thought Angelo and Lovie put a lot of emphasis on ST's and Toub did his magic. I'm not saying Angelo stocked the cupboards because we all know how challenged he was on draft day but he did put some emphasis on ST's.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    how daaaaaaaaaare you!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I gotta go with Canada on that one, we always had good or great special teams players.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    we ruined wooten on a specials play
    last year
    let the 6's and 7's get out on the field
    and earn their keep
    no more DE's on special
    if we can avoid it
    pep needs some time off
    throughout a game

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    I like Izzy in there on kicks. Blocking a kick is like getting your smalls caressed.

  • I loved what Mike Brown said about Izzy on kickoffs. I wish I could remember the exact quote. It was something about how Izzy upset the other team. I just remember my translation was "When Izzy arrives the other guys were shitting and getting."

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    if you are gonna keep his quality
    as a coach for specials
    he must be taken care of
    i wouldn't want to
    sabotaged by my mgmnt.
    if i was about to step up
    to the next level
    by a horrrible year
    on the resume
    creating doubt

  • What's up fellas?!
    Just got home to Virginia and settled back in. Was out and about with the family for the last couple of days and didn't have any real down time to post nor did I feel like getting my laptop out.
    First, thank you to Jeff and the Garage for hosting the party. The food was good, the beer was cold, and I made a new friend - the bouncer! Jeff and Artoo did a great job running the evening and that koozie is damn cool.

    Murph, Jokey, Artoo, NBIT - it was a absolute blast meeting you guys. I hope to see you guys again, either at a game this year (Artoo - Tennessee?) or at next years draft party. Hell, maybe the Senior Bowl would take us? I wish we would have had even more time to hang out and swap stories and just BS, but all good evenings must come to an end at some point.

    PS - the Wheaties box is in a safe location.
    PPS - Shady and Waffle, in particular...fellas. You missed out.
    PPPS - MB30, coke bottle glasses? Really?
    PPPPS - Trac, see above - coke bottle glasses?

    To every one else that didn't make it, your presence was missed but hopefully next year you will be able to attend.

    I'll give my detailed thoughts on the draft tonight or tomorrow when I get some free time. I will of course be making time to kick a certain white safety in the ass repeatedly in MW3 tonight.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    haha DUDE if I knew you were going to throw down I definitely would have brought the dog. What happened?!

  • In reply to Shady:

    I did not end up throwing any punches. I think the bouncer thought I was going to, but I was just exasperated. Hilariously, both of my brothers were in a completely different room of the bar and had no idea I'd been kicked out until I called them.

    I almost want to leave the whole thing in limbo so it maintains an air of epic "you had to be there" grandeur that it will lose when the details are revealed.

    You would have to ask Artoo or perhaps Jokey or NBIT what it was that I said that got me escorted out, but I imagine it involved many, many variations on "F-ck".
    I have a long, long fuse but it eventually burned out.
    I owe many thanks to Jeff in particular and the nice guys at the Garage for re-admitting me a little later.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I just thought it was hillarious outside the bar.

    NBIT - "Just shrug it off man, let's go talk about football"
    MBP - "Oh I'm fine. Don't know why he keeps mouthing off cause its no big deal to me"
    NBIT - "Yeah, let's shrug it off then"
    MBP - "Oh its totally shrugged off, I'm already over it"
    NBIT - "Okay good then"
    MBP - "Don't know what that #$P%&#@*%P. What's his problem anyway. I'm over this, not a big deal to me."
    NBIT - "Great, just shrug the shoulders then."
    MBP - "I'm past it already. That @$#%#$^... kept saying @#%@#$%. I'm totally over it.
    NBIT - "Over it?"
    MBP - "Totally"
    NBIT - "Good."
    MBP - "That @#%@#%"

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    lol, NBIT - that sounds pretty accurate.
    Thanks for talking me down. Was a pleasure meeting you and talking football!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    It was a great meeting you and your brothers and the other bloggers.

    The guys you were arguing with were douches and after you were kicked out, they kept trying to mix it up with whoever was nearby. Jeff tried to pay them to shut them up but that wasn't good enough for them.

    Where was YourBoyRoy? We need to start an internet campaign to reinstate his videos.

  • In reply to Jokey:

    Jokey, you are da man...was great meeting you.
    OTOH, when the opportunity comes around to pay you back for those shots of Makers Mark, well...revenge will be sweet.

    See you again in April 2013, unless I find some way to get back to the Chi for one of the games this year.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I thought he was Indian?

  • That's just an affectation for his customer support job.

  • So, I get up really early this morning (4:45 am) to get my daughter ready and get in the van to catch a ride from our hotel out to Midway for a 7:20am flight. We're out in the suburbs somewhere (it was a Holiday Inn - fuck if I know which town it was in) and so my dad runs us out and we unload out of the van at the curb around 6:10 am.
    It's Midway, so no big deal, right?
    Well, my flight is supposed to be on US Airways.
    Does anyone know the next part of this story?
    US Airways doesn't fly out of Midway.
    US Airways DOES fly out of O'Hare.
    After looking in vain for the US Airways ticket booth and checking the departure board (with my 3 yr old and luggage in tow), I realize I have royally fucked up. I call my dad and get him to swing the van around through the departure lane while I haul ass out to meet him.
    It's now 6:20 am.
    I figure at this point it's a lost cause but somehow my dad navigates us there in the minivan in 25 minutes flat. I don't know how, other than breaking some kind of law of classical physics but we ended up unloading at O'hare at 6:45.
    How we managed to get checked in, drop off our check bag at security and navigate through security (while getting my bag pulled because I had a juice-box in it!) in time to get to the gate before it left, I will never know. Solo? Yes, I could maybe see it...but with my three year old? Nope. Don't know how we did it.

    So, uh, there be thy 2nd lesson of the trip.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Wow, I didn't know you could make it from Midway to O'Hare that quickly, even at three in the morning with no traffic....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    My dad is a terrifying driver.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Which reminds me of that old saying

    "I'd rather die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather did rather than screaming and filled with terror like the passengers in his car "

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Hah! Every time I hear that joke, I flash back to every road trip I've taken with him in the last fifteen years.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Gawd the blog is in rare form! Damn funny, Tobi.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    haha smh Rabbit, glad to hear it worked out.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Holy crap! Does your dad work as a wheel man for bank jobs? Even at 6:00AM that's amazing.

  • In reply to MikeV in OR:

    He just retired so I guess he has the free time to take it up as a hobby.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    classical physics. I love it.

  • I was curious and had a few minutes to kill so I did a bit of research. If you're selected by the Bears in rounds 6/7, your chances of playing in the NFL for more than a year or to (if at all) are not good. Of the 35 players drafted by the Bears in those rounds, I'd say maybe five made it past year two. There might be others who caught on with another team and lasted for a while but here's the list (years separated by a blank row):

    James Thomas
    Harvey Unga

    Dan LeFevour
    J'marcus Webb

    Al Afalava
    Lance Louis
    Derek Kinder

    Ervin Baldwin
    Chester Adams
    Joey LaRocque
    Kirk Barton
    Marcus Monk

    J.D. Runnels
    Tyler Reed

    Chris Harris
    Rodriques Wilson

    Alfonso Marshall

    Joe Odom
    Brock Forsey
    Bryan Anderson

    Bryan Knight
    Adrian Peterson
    Jamin Elliott
    Bryan Fletcher

    Bernard Robertson
    John Capel

    Frank Murphy
    Paul Edinger
    James Cotton
    Michael Green

    Rashard Cook
    Sulecio Sanford
    James Finn

    Patrick Mannelly
    Chad Overhauser

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Patrick Manelly might be the 7th round pick who has played the most games of all 7th rd picks, even if it is just at long snapper.

  • Our line has J-Webb and Lance Louis starting. Two 7th rounders and we could see James Brown (UDFA) step up at some point. Talk about draft depth.

  • 15 years and counting.

    It was funny seeing Greg Olsen doing long snaps in training camp trying to make himself useful. We turned his pick into Brandon Marshall. Super sweet.

  • Sorry to hear about Rose, fellas. Microcosm of my life as a Blazer fan. Hurts. Hurts real bad. No shame in crying guys. No shame at all.

  • What makes it worse is that now MIA is favored to win.

    I used to like Lebron, now, I want him to be the Dan Marino of b-ball.

  • And just when I was about to start paying attention to the real NBA season...it will take him a long time to rehab that.

  • Its the GQ magazine curse! Sanchez was on the cover last year and he completly sucked (not that I care) Rose is on the cover for this moth and now hes out! Its a curse lol.

  • every chicago team
    has been slayed
    during the 2011 season
    marlon bird has his face exploded
    cutty and deng tore ligaments in their hands
    toews and hossa concussed
    fotre and rose blew the pistons
    bears bulls hawks cubs
    the forces of life owe this city
    therefore i see brighter days

  • Well.. it's the worst sports thing that has happened to me since Jordan first retired in the early 90s.

    Rose completely changed my entire "nothing but the Bears" sports focus. As a drive-to-the-hole point guard Chicago homer, this kid was everything I had hoped for.

    I have watched every game he's played, and every night was spectacular. I know the majority of you folks don't give a shit... but Rose was a sight to be seen. I watched every Jordan game possible (pre-league pass, when WGN was awesome) when I was younger, and Rose was more entertaining for me.

    This shit hurts bad. Every five minutes or so, when I remember again, I sigh like a bitch. Not that this year is fucked, but that his whole career might be done-ski. He may never return to the form he was, and that kills me.

    The Bears are all I have now.

    Bear the fuck down.

    Or whatever.


  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Oh, just to provide proper insight into the man-crush I had on Rose...

    If my kid turned out to be a boy... yup, he would be a "Derrick"


    I still don't feel any better...

    Bear down?

    I guess I can name the kid Jay, but fuck does that pale in comparison.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Imagine how I felt when he Brandon Roy had just earned ROY and we drafted Greg Oden and had Aldridge.

    Roy turned out to be a true baller. Total stones, cool under pressure, great leader and teammate and person in the communtiy. Oden had his ESPY's and I thought, "oh man, this is gonna be fun".

    Flash forward 4 years. Roy, out of basketball forever. Oden, played about 40 games in 4 years. Out of basketball. Aldridge is coming into his own, but he's got this heart thing that could totally end up sacking him.

    Sports is a harsh mistress.

  • Yeah... the Blazers thing is the roughest.

    The Curse of Clyde Drexler?

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Sam Bowie.

  • So, what’s the deal with all the whining about “white safeties”? It can’t be a race thing, can it? The latest was when we drafted the “Hawaiian Beaver”. I really don’t get. It’s not that a white guy can’t play safety, is it?

    Two things:

    I went to lots of Bears games during the 70s and 80s. At that time the Bears had two skinny white guys at safety.

    There was #46 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pGlPedni8Q&feature=fvwrel

    …and there was #45 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww2fQrumVmI

    And strictly speaking, the Hawaiian Beaver isn’t a white guy. At least not according to the EEOC form we all have to fill out when we get a new job. I won’t copy the entire form here, but when Hardin signs his new-hire paperwork, which of the two check boxes does he select do you think?

    Please check the EEO Identification Group that best applies to you:

    --White (Not Hispanic or Latino) - A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East or North Africa.

    --Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander (Not Hispanic or Latino)- A person having origins in any of the peoples of Hawaii, Guam, Samoa, or other Pacific Islands.

    So, did he just improve his play because he’s not really white?

    OK, three things. Plank was a 12th round pick, and Fencik was a 10th rounder. Sometimes good players fall to the bottom of the order

  • In reply to MikeV in OR:

    hardin is a special player
    he has had the perspective
    of being on the rise
    and then seeing his moment
    on the big stage become trgic
    that builds character
    to come back stronger
    i read today he is fearless
    when it comes to contact
    he has a bit of wisdom
    and maturity honed from adversity
    he is big fast and strong
    maybe he won't get jammed
    in the red zone
    to me he still has alot to learn
    from experience
    but i would think his best days
    are ahead of him
    can't wait to see him
    in 2 years
    i think he can become elite

  • In reply to MikeV in OR:

    I think a lot of it is just some fun ribbing, or maybe left over trauma from Archuleta.

    I always have to keep reminding folk that Conte has 4.5 speed.

    Hardin just reminds many of Wright. A fast, athletic, INJ PRONE, project, third rd safety.

    But Emery drafted Hardin for sub-packages, specifically, to cover TEs like Finley, Pettigrew, Rudolph, all in our division.

    Not to mention the other TEs we face this year. SF Davis, Colts Fleener AND Dwayne Allen, Cowboys Witten, Panther's Olsen.

    Plus, whatever stud TEs we'll face in the play-offs.

    Looking at the 2012 schedule, nearly every team has a very good TE, so I can understand drafting Hardin. Just hope he can stay healthy, which is something all our Safeties, black, white, green, have not been able to do.

  • I know it's foolish to "grade" drafts when no downs have been played, but these teams really "wowed" me.


    They moved up to draft the best DT in Cox who will disrupt for years to come. Then, in the 2nd, they get an athletic banger in LB Kendricks. Then, in the 2nd again, they get another pass rusher in DE Curry. But no, it doesn't stop there. They drafted CB Boykin who was a great value to replace the departed over priced Samuels, add depth to their Oline in OT Kelly, and to top it off, steal WR McNutt in the 6th. WOW.


    Yes, they drafted early, but really, the traded down and acquired a bunch of 2nd rounders, which I wanted the Bears to do. Fisher got a lot of the guys that would be nice Bears. They still got a first in DT Brockers to shore up that horrid Dline. Then, they went to work in the 2nd. Drafted WR Quick who is very under-rated. Then, they gambled on perhaps the best CB in the draft in Jenoris Jenkins. And with their third 2nd rounder, they picked up RB Pead to take some of the pressure from both Jackson and Bradford. Oh, but they weren't done yet. In the 3rd they drafted another solid CB in Trumaine Johnson, and added another weapon in WR Givens. Wow.


    Well, they drafted a stud SS in Barron. Then, they shored up their RB situation in Martin. In the 2nd they got a solid OLB in Lavonte David. Those are three starters and one possible pro-bowler right there. Semi-wow.

  • I wish Jeff Fisher was our coach. Ex-Bear that can actually coach, unlike poor Samurai "It's on me" Mike.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Guess it remains to be seen how ROn Rivera does....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    My bet is he will do nothing of note.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Buddy's nickname for Samurai was 'stupid'. So there's that.

  • Not true Irish, he called him Samurai. He probably told each guy on that defense at one time or another they were stupid, but it was never his nickname for Singletary. Dan Hampton was always Big Rook, from his rookie days and always after that.

  • I also liked the Bengals draft. On the flip side. Big losers in the draft:

    Browns - Richardson is great and all, but dropping Colt McCoy was a mistake. Weeden is not a big step up and you have the chance to draft a first round WR or TE. Mike Holmgren should have stayed put and if Richarson was taken had the choice between a probowl LT or a probowl WR. We'll be seeing the Browns in the top 10 again next year, probably top 5.

    San Francisco - Feels like they reached with a couple of picks. I'm sure they'll prove me wrong as they're a good organization, but I just think the WR in Round 1 was a bad choice at the position, and the RB in Round 2 was over-valued. I don't see one true impact player on the draft for them.

    Miami - Tannehill was over-valued. They would have been better off taking a QB in the 2nd round or trading down into the teens (just as long as they stayed above Cleveland). This is a team with so many needs and their first two picks are a QB reach and an over-rated tackle (Jonathan Martin). They'll be in the top 10 next year for sure.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Dude, the Bengals? Really? DreK comes with his off-the-field-time-bomb. The scouts said Devon Still quits. The knock on Sanu is that of all the receivers he was worst at getting separation. And they signed Vontaze Burfict when every other team in the NFL passed him up 7 times. That's four guys I wouldn't want my money on right there.

    Glad to see the Niners not do anything apparently great. I think we'll always have the edge on them if they make the playoffs. Alex Smith is our ace up the sleeve.

  • Yeah, agreed. The Eagles will find it hard to continue to underachieve with their roster. The Rams are going to find it hard not to get better from the Redskins trade ... the only thing holding back the Bucs will be Josh Freeman's brain.

    But the Bungles, how do they do it? Every move every pick you shouldn't make and they dive in head first. Their locker room is more like Miami county jail.

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    All of whom might suck in the NFL. So why worry.

  • in your list, in time Rams´ glambles will work. Eagles and Bucs on paper seem the must improved teams in this draft.

  • Weez miss ya Johnny K; speed kills and you were a stone killa.

    Get well.


  • In reply to gpldan:

    WIth the TD at 2:45 possibly being the finest open field move thrown by a Chicago Bear since Dennis Gentry wore the pads.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    cutler is extremely accurate
    when johnny was in tight coverage
    he deserves to be out there
    benefitting from or new recievers
    godspeed Mr. Knox

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I was at the game in Seattle, gp. I had just drafted Johnny Knox in my fantasy league, and my Seahawks fan buddy, who's in the league with me, was just ribbing me for starting him. Less than a minute later he puts on that move. Couldn't have been more perfect for me.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Thanks for that clip, really hope he's coming along with his rehab. I didn't think the Bears had worn their white/white jersey combo since the 70s but there was a bit in there against GB where they were....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Knox is one of the biggest casualties of the Martz era. I'm not talking about the injury, I'm talking about the fact that he was coming into his own as a quality starting WR and then we draft Roy Williams and he was on the bench.

    I think Martz's love for Roy Williams and the team's desire to make Hester a starting WR combined to put Knox in a position where he didn't stand a chance. The guy is small, and players like Jeffery and Marshall fill a role that he can't, but I feel pretty good that Knox can contribute 2-3 catches a game if he comes back, even with our crowded WR roster.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I don't see any room for him if we keep 6 receivers. Martz' confidence in Roy was that at least he could run a route properly. Probably anyone on this blog could contribute 2-3 catches, but who would you take off the field, and why? Hester is our speed guy and we know he has good hands. Knox and Sanzendropper are history.
    Bennett can be our slot guy and he doesn't hear footsteps.

  • Can't say I disagree, Irish. While I really have no ill will of any kind against Johnny Knox, I hope that he gets opportunities to do something else to make a decent living. The risk of worse damage to his health is too high for me to want to see him play football.

    But, of course, that's just my emotions and it's his life to live. Whatever choice he makes, I wish him good health and good luck.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Do NOT let Irish watch this vid.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Jesus, two thoughts after watching that vid.

    One. Knox would be a stud in the slot, if he ever recovers from going over the middle.

    Two. Every "Oline" apologist should watch that vid. Half the time Jay is back-peddling, dodging, and running for his life while chucking it.

    Once Knox returns to form mid-season (hopefully), we'll be even more electric on O.

  • Ironically he was not hurt going over the middle. He was hurt after he fumbled and had to dive back against the direction everyone else was going. He dove back to get it and the huge linebacker drove through him with full momentum and fucked him up.
    Johnny ended Jay's season and his own. Football is a son of a bitch.

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    In reply to gpldan:

    At 2:09 Cutler shows why he's a stud. Avoids two rushers with a couple quick steps and launches a strike 40 yards off balance.

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    In reply to gpldan:

    Fear Boners should be raging across the league.

  • 19. Shea McClellin, defensive end, Boise State.
    45. Alshon Jeffery, receiver, South Carolina.
    79. Brandon Hardin, defensive back, Oregon State.
    111. Evan Rodriguez, tight end, Temple.
    184. Isaiah Frey, cornerback, Nevada.
    220. Greg McCoy, cornerback, TCU.

    Overview: The Bears made an aggressive move up for Jeffery without conceding much (pick 150), and otherwise used their picks where slotted. While Jeffery's on-field potential can be debated, he adds a new element to a receiver corps that can now be among the most potent in football. McClellin will be a disruptive "Joker" if Chicago's staff uses him right, and Hardin is an intriguing talent in the back end at 6-foot-3, 217 with 4.44 wheels. Rodriguez has some Aaron Hernandez to his game. Only time will tell, but this looks like rookie GM Phil Emery's first win.

  • In reply to bears5003:

    A little optimism never killed anyone...

  • In reply to bears5003:

    The curious cat who said "I'll bet there's something wonderful on the other side of the road."

  • Motty as well, thanks so much for coming the other night sir. You're a pleasure to talk Bears with and knowledgeable as hell.

  • Ok. I will tell the bar story. Posse had bought a Wheaties box and sports illustrated that were classics and had MJ on it.

    Two guys were hanging out with all of us and no one knew who were they were. These guys were nice and cool.

    One of those two guys asked posse if he would sell it for 50 dollars. I looked up how much theI Wheaties box was worth for Posse and it was only 12 bucks. I was like take the deal Posse.

    Later on that night. The guy is pissed because he realizes he over paid and his friend keeps saying we ripped him off. Well that stated it and eventually Posse gave him back 40 dollars and the guy still wasnt happy. So Posse started yelling at him and what not. Then the weakest bouncer came and escorted him out.

    Now comes the best part. The girl who won the tickets said that i am like her little brother. They literally thought I was related to her. Then she said out loud that we are all family.

    Then the two guys think we scammed them. The draft party was rigged because we are all related. Seriously. Jeff was nice and said hey we are not related but here is all your money back. Well they didn't want it and kept saying we rigged it because we are family. Jeff was about to kick their asses and finally the owner told the two guys to go to the other side of the bar.

    Jeff got Posse back in and we hanged out for awhile and we all went our separate ways after that.

    Oh. I pissed everyone off because I knew like three seconds before a team got on the clock who they had already picked.

  • Funny stuff Super. I'd have to think those two idiots that kept crying are the same bozos that call every sports talk show. Everyone knows I don't feel this way about the posters on the blog (except for the trolls) but the Bears truly have some of the dumbest fans on the planet.

  • Thank god I didnt show up. Unlimited booze and two yahoo's being tools would equal me spending some time in county.

  • Welcome back Brownie, good to have you back. Ha, I was getting ready to call up a couple of my Marine buddies for a search and rescue.

  • Too much thinking time these days waiting on the new season which I'm really excited about. I mean REALLY EXCITED. Emery's gonna have a chance to prove his meddle real soon. So far I'm very encouraged for 1 reason alone. He's a "doer". That windbag Jerra was all talk for the most part and the girls are gonna love Emery because I think the guy has staying power. I think he has the endurance it takes as a GM to produce many successful winning seasons. This koolaid tastes great.

    I'm gonna be real interested to see if the guys Emery has drafted will have the talent/motors to get them over the hump, unlike the fools gold Jerry was so good at finding and repackaging.

    My measuring stick on the upcoming season will be our match ups against Green Bay this year. I'm reasonably certain that our week 2 contest will answer a lot of questions for us.


  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I'm feeling untypically optimistic for an upcoming Bears season too Trac. I'm in your boat with my pirated-internet-ticket and a big smile on my face brother. Please God, Allah, Mohammed, Abraham, and Walter that nothing terrible happens during pre-season and continues that way throughout the season. For the first time ever I feel good about the front office as well as the product on the field, mostly. There's a new air about lovie (it's worth watching the two latest pressers on CB.com) - you can see he's expecting big things this season and so are we. I can't friggin wait.

    You're right about week two ... but I know one thing ... it's going to get ugly for the Colts in week one, and Mr. Luck is going to be brought down a peg or two when he finds out what it's like to go into a bear's den with your bits covered in honey.


  • Good man Artoo.

    By the way, I thought the girl thought won the tix was a nubian queen? Or did you guys just photograph a honey to get my motor runnin'?

  • Ha. I kid you not. Pompei mentions the possibility of 8-ball Adams or Psalms 91 returning. Tommie to the rescue anybody?


  • James Brown, I feel good!


    NFL Network Scouts had him graded at 82.2 and going somewhere in the mid 2nd. He's still projected more as a OG, but hopefully he can grow 2 inches.

    Is Emery Nostradamus?

  • Also, graded 5.37 by PFW which is higher than Zebrie Sanders, Nate Potters, Mosley, Compton, and almost as high as Mike Adams (5.47) who was drafted in the 2nd.

    Only knock apparently is his height.

    How'd this kind go undrafted?

  • DT Cameron


    78 tkls last year, and 36 tkls behind the line of scrimmage in two years? I know it's "marginal" competition, but that's outstanding.

  • Im rooting for the guy to have some play time this year!

  • Well, that was the draft.

    1979 Chicago Bears vs Cardinals : Eh ... you get to see the adverts. You used to be able to buy nuclear weapons at Walmart. I did not know that.
    (58 minutes)

    1976 Bears v Niners highlights

    1976 wk 4 Redskins at Bears highlights

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    Ahh. you've killed my morning....
    Damn, Payton was good...

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    In reply to Big Mike:

    Dick Jauron getting smacked in the facemask by Payton. Priceless

  • Hey Irish, have you checked into Pappa Bears death? He was only 54 when he suddenly died of a heart attack. Hmm.....mighty suspicious, please look into it.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    My bad, disregard, on meds today and I don't know what the heck I'm talking about. As usual.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    You were close Trac, Mugs died at 54. Maybe Michael took him out in order to gain control for his Mother?

  • NFL Top Ten One Shot Wonders #1 Greg Cook


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    Does anyone miss hearing, "he has a high floor, that's what we liked about that guy".

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Let's not forget that he did his due diligence.

  • Posse,good to see you made it home safe and sound. Your Dad did a fine job getting you to Ohare in time for your flight.

  • Here's a bunch of draft grades from around the web. I love Pete Prisco's (who is a complete idiot) knock on Jeffery (He's too much like Marshall). Yeah, you'd hate to get another guy that's a top 5 WR in the NFL!


  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I couldn't be happier witht the Alshon pick Canada. We are smurf free at reciever now. Marshall -6'4", Jeffery- 6'3", Bennett - 6'. Plus you add in Davis at 6'7". Even if the line does happen to suck this year(as long as it's not historically sucking) Cutler can just throw it up there and have a reasonable chance of one his guys making a play for the ball. That is a dramatic shift from the past few years. Cutler's biggest target has been Roy Williams(since Davis in Martz's offense was never designed to be a weapon) and Williams has never been a go up and get it receiver. Good things on offense this year gents.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    Let's not forget Spaeth who's closer to 6'8, and Devin Thomas is 6'2/6'3. Forte is 6'2 as well I think. Yup, let it rain Cutty!

  • In reply to JAB1:

    If Jeffery pans out, this is the best WR group the Bears have had in my lifetime. I could see the Bears lining up in the red zone with Marshall, Jeffery, Davis, Rodriguez and Forte/Bush. 2 guys can jump like kangaroos, another guy is 6'7", the lead blocker is 6'2" and Forte/Bush leave a lot of options on the table. Oh Yeah!

  • If you look at Brandon Marshall's and Alshon Jeffery's draft profile it is eerily similar. Both were said to not get seperation but can go up and get the ball, bad route running etc. I know that the profiles don't mean much but from the get go I wanted Jeffery. I thought he was the most similar to Marshall. With Marshall taking the number 1 receiver spot I believe it will take all the pressure off Jeffery. I think he'll have an 700+ yard season with another 5+ TD's.


  • I liked johnny knox. I remember that TD in 2010 I think… at seahawks I think… where he literally stopped and jumped back.to the side mid stride right before the td. I thought it was on the vid above, but it seemed more spectacular than what I saw there.

    Aaaaanyway, I really like knox and think he’s a damn good outside speed guy. You simply can’t put him over the middle, you can’t. It plainly and simply misuse of the resource. It’s like making lach an OLB. Martz was/is a fucking moron. That dude sucked. Victim of his own ego.

    Oh, and like Canada says…. The undrafted guy better fucking work out for us, and CW and BJ better stay healthy. I’m convinced that most of the ‘great oline play’ in cuttys last 5 games was cutty’s feet and not them. Jesus. Why does this org refuse to acknowledge that our oline is terrible? No matter how you cut it, they are bad and one of these times cutty is going to get destroyed. Makes me sad.

    Btw, if cutty can stay alive all season, we’re going to be fucking insane. Just fucking crush people… 30-40 pts a game.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Knox would certainly have brought an added dimension to the receivers this year (I'm assuming he's out for the season until I hear differently). Between Alshon, Marshall, and Bennett, there is no doubt that Cutty has the possession receivers to stop the glut of 3rd and long situations that we ended up in over the last couple of years. Now, with Knox's speed, we certainly would have been a terribly difficult passing attack to defend. I still like our receivers but a speed threat opposite of Marshall with Bennett and Alshon either playing in four receiver sets or alternating at the slot, and we would have been fucking scary. Knox may be a bigger loss for ST, as he and Hester were a nightmare matchup (exhibit A: the return that wasn't).
    I am a little amused by some of the love Knox is getting at the moment given the terrible beating he took on this blog through much of last year for being too small and too weak in getting off the jams. He has never been a #1 but he would be a deadly #2 or 3.
    I really am overwhelmingly optimistic about our offense this year if we stay healthy, and if Matty wakes up and takes the deal (if it's even still on the table at this point).

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I HATE knox for the inside shit that Martz would give him, but if you look at the highlight tape 95% of the shit on there is the big pass down the sideline or in the endzone.

    THAT is where knox excelled, not in the middle shit that god him almost decapitated and cutty out for the season.

    Muck Fartz.

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  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You mean kinda like this?


    Just wait for Marshalls and Jefery's highlights a couple years from now.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    We still have Hester to stretch the field, and both Marshall and Jeffrey are bigger threats than we had on the roster last year (except perhaps Earl, but we all love Earl so there's not much reason to keep repeating it).

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    There is no doubt in my mind that Knox had better straight line speed than DH, but your point is taken.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    It's funny how the one universally liked receiver is the slowest and least flashy - Earl just catches the balls they throw at him.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Read my post above regarding that play in Seattle.

  • Biggsy grabbed some breakfast (3 Polish sausages and 5 eggs scrambled) this morning and wrote an interesting article for the Trib on the draft.

    Basically Emery is sending his message: we don't give a fuck about the floor. We are looking for high ceilings. I'm not drafting to keep my job, I'm drafting to take some players that are going to either blow you away or bust out spectacularly.

    Infinitely more entertaining, for sure. If it was me, I might try and find the middle way, but he's got the dice and he's rolling.

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  • In reply to gpldan:

    Tice's Webb defense :

    “Here is what I saw with him: Second-year player playing one side one year and one side another,” Tice said. “I thought he was adequate. I thought his consistency grade -- how many times does he block his guy – his consistency grade was actually solid. What grade was bad was the critical errors, the sacks, penalties, not really a ton of quarterback hits. When he made a critical error, everyone knew what it was. But, what you look at is the development of a second-year, seventh-round draft pick. Is he a guy we can move forward and win with?

    “Well, if you change your drops and you’re not always in the deep drops. If you change your philosophy of making sure the guy gets chip help from a back or a tight end. If you change and move the release point of the quarterback, you’re going to already make him better without making him better. And then you have an entire offseason and now you have a chance to make him better there. So there are two ways I just told you we can get him better in. And then already I think he is a very good run blocker. That is an area that doesn’t get talked about. Do I think he is the guy moving forward? Yes, I do unless some miracle happens and an elite first-round pick that we couldn’t pass up fell in our lap which I doubt. Yeah, he’s our guy moving forward.”

  • Tice makes a good point. The visibility of the position is one reason that Webb was the whipping boy. Did he have issues? Yes. Was he under more scrutiny than any other guy on the line? Yes.
    Do I expect him to improve tremendously after a full offseason (remember last year's work stoppage)? Hell yes. And if he doesn't, it will get addressed.
    Look, the one thing that Tice is not going to let happen in his first year replacing Martz is to let Cutty get beat up. He may make other mistakes as the OC but the one thing you never do is pull the same shit as your predecessor. That is a quick way to get pink slipped back to the position coach queue.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Tice has been saying this since he got the job. I believe him. Totally agree about him not letting Jay take a beating. Also, the one thing he didn't mention was Jay calling audibles. Jay is a smart guy and the Marshall connection is going to be electric on audibles.

    Lovie would never bad mouth someone in the press and even he said Jay was getting hit too much. That's when I was sure Martz was not getting renewed. Martz's tenure was the biggest disappointment I've had as a Bears fan. I actually had some high expectations when he got the job. I knew Cutler was going to get hit a bunch but thought our O would go off the chart. The only time his offense was truly clicking for us was after Lovie/Tice interventions.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I think Martz may be clinically insane.

  • In reply to gpldan:


  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP take it easy on Biggsy, man. It can't be easy staying up til 2am eating from the vending machine 4x a week.

  • "Shea McClellin is a good player and will help out the pass rush, but I didn't see him going quite this high. I just don't think he has quite the ceiling of a guy like Whitney Mercilus. But he at least fills a need." - Mel Kiper

    I put this in a file I keep, called "2012 corkboard". For shit I want to pin up and revisit a few years down the line.

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    In reply to gpldan:

    I've got a file just like that. Vengeance is sweet.

  • The "Devin package" ......


  • Also like this one:

    Here is what you need to know about Tice’s offensive history: The Vikings employed a fullback only one of the four seasons he was the head coach there. Tice was largely responsible for Jim Kleinsasser making the transition from fullback to tight end (or H-back) and the club primarily used him as a lead blocker when needed. Tice had a true fullback in 2003: Charles Stackhouse. In 2002, 2004 and 2005 the Vikings did not have a fullback on the roster, according to profootballreference.com. That is a decent indicator of what vision Tice has for the Bears.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Good point. Clutts is going to have a hard time making the roster.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    that is a damn shame.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I agree. I really liked Clutts. I just don't see how he makes the squad unless we shit can Spaeth, WR and/or CB. Hope he sticks around.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    tyler was a special teamer
    before we got him
    maybe his hustle and desire
    keep him around
    for toub

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Not if Tice brings home paydirt this year. 30 pts a game would be nice.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I'm not saying were there yet but that is one thing about a good roster that sucks, you end up releasing some good players. That hasn't been an issue for us since the '80's (esp during JA's tenure) but it's a good problem.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    hahahahahaha... way to find that silver lining canada.

    Man… thaaat sucks.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    We were doing 30 points a game last year when things were good! Imagine what's possible with decent receivers, an improved backfield, sensible play-calling that plays to our strengths, quicker releases and the QB actually being allowed to call audibles(!) The flip-side of that is the defense should get more rest because it won't be three and out for the offense all day long.

    Martz exposed Webb and Cutler to the fullest last year, he laid him open to all the liabilities but denied the protection and the eject button of audibles - so as Tice says quite correctly, Webb will be better without having to get better. He'll also have Chris Williams snapping at his heels which he didn't last year. Some folk are expecting the line to be the same as last year if the same faces show up - what's different? Tice is different. He's not a fkn idiot like the Mad Magician.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Not only would it be a damn shame, it would be a stupid shame.

    He's a big part of the reason we ran for 2,000 yds last year with 3 different HBs.

    Look at most of the long run highlights - Clutts was there making a big block, running down the field full sprint.

    We gotta keep that dude. Release Kyle Adams our current "H-back" to make room for Rodriguez, not Clutts.

  • agreed. Clutts stays. they can't be that dumb.

  • I just randomly clicked a 2011 Forte Highlight Vid

    Keep an eye out for that white dude in #44 uniform.

    He is always hitting someone.


  • Remember Olsen as the H-back?

  • Doing a search for the Bear's "zircon defense" as Madden called it (the one that made its debut against the Giants playoff game in '85 where Perry comes out and they stunt), I came across this - pretty cool. You can read any of these newspapers going back over 200 years, like microfiche.


    Oh, the game?


  • That was funny.

    Total yards offense by half:

    Bears - 300

    NYG - Minus 8

  • Nice find.
    One of my favorite hobbies used to be collecting old magazines (not just the nudie ones) and getting a feel for events as they happened, not just the dessicated corpses of them as they exist in history books.
    You get a much better feel for the context, even by what advertisements emphasized and what was important enough to print, than you can get from history books written 100 years after the fact.

  • The best part of the draft being over is that Mel Kiper can fuck off for another year. I hate the fucking bag of hot air. And his hair helmut. What the fuck qualifies that douche applicator anyway? Mayock can eat shit too. Draft overkill. Ready for baseball. Whitesox are a not nearly as worthless as I thought they might be this year.

  • Yeah, it would be sweet to be an expert and still be wrong all the time. Sox might be decent. Cubs not so much.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    until rizzo shows up

  • Can someone please tell me how one gets qualified as draft expert? I mean, who are these guys? When Mark Twain said it, he was talking about religion and politics but it holds for the NFL draft as well:

    "In religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing."

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    one of alfred korzybski's greatest truths
    "you can always say something more
    about what's already been said"
    pundits schmundits
    they didn't know
    which way the
    emery was going
    to blow

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    These are the same people that hear the words "conspiracy theory" and completely disregard what follows, as the think-tank that invent the couplet programmed them to do. These are the Britney Spears of the world telling people to get behind their president. Critical thinking should be taught in the schools of free countries, or they are not free.

  • Preach! I thank my junior year history teacher for opening my eyes. You sir, are awesome! lol And the rest of the great thinking minds on this blog!

  • In reply to OsosFan:

    Bear down brother.

  • What in thee fuck it is with detroit getting QBs who look like lesbians?!?!?!


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Too funny. That's no joke, what's her name?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Kellen moore... QB of Boise St.

    farmboy know her.

  • In reply to MB30SD:


    ...and he was 50-3 in college. damn

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Then Hellen it is.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:


  • In reply to MB30SD:


    This just in: the new Lions QB coach is Billie Jean King.

  • In reply to gpldan:


  • Ooooooohhhh: http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2012/04/nike-designer-sparks-furor-by-mocking-derrick-rose-injury-jason-petrie-chicago-bulls-lebron-james-nba-miami-heat-philadelphia-76ers/1#.T56u8KHh_To

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Fuck that guy.

    I hope he loses his eyesight in a freak mascara accident.

    Please, gentlemen, please no more Bulls talk for 6-9 months.

    Ah, fuck.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Wouldn't it be nice if that douchebag came face to face with Rose. I'm pretty sure that jagoff would be checking out the floor to find a nice comfortable place to land.

  • Tice seems to grade Webb decently, if not good, at run blocking. At 330, he's going to get some push. If we call a more balanced playbook and eliminate the 7-step drop frequency, and let Webb do some smashmouth into Jared Allen, it might help when it's time to pass block.

    Also, as Jeff points out, Cookie to tackle now seems a certainty with Edwin Williams decent play and Chico and the Man onboard.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    maybe it's the show me don't tell me part of my brain (also why I don't believe in our definition of a god), but until I see our line not handing out sacks like samples at the supermarket, I'm going to be a bit skeptical.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I mistakenly called Martz a masochist the other day, when I should have called him a sadist (he's probably both). I don't see how the offensive line CAN'T improve this year just by moving the pocket, altering the number of dropback steps, and not going dipshit crazy throwing the ball for entire games 3-5 times a year.
    The last two years defenders knew exactly where to rush the passer on almost every play. Huge advantage, especially on 7 step drops for quick defensive ends and on blitzes with no extra protection / chance to audible out of a doomed play. All that extra space gives the quicker ends more room to avoid Webb's long arms and put him out of postition. I think play calling alone will eliminate at least a third of the sacks from last year.
    I think Chris Williams will stay at left guard and maybe be a back-up tackle if needed. He's still learning the position and he's one hell of a pulling guard. He's got quick feet.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    OBR went through the tape on CW and compared him with EW's 7 games at guard. Chris ends up on his ass in the passing game way too often and gets pushed backwards too frequently. EW held his ground better and managed to stay on his feet, so he's earned the right to play guard I think. If we leave CW at guard then there's no serious competition for Webb at tackle and he can revert to type. He's in his last year, so it's either win out at LT or it's adios Chris come next season. We've got 4 dudes who can play tackle, 9 that can play guard. Chris is one of those tackles, but he's playing guard. Even if he won the LT spot, we could switch Webb in on obvious running plays, or just bring in the extra tackle. I don't see any problems with our power running game next year, which is good news for our passing game.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    you don't hear
    this kind of explanation
    most of the time
    tice is sound
    in his understanding
    of how his
    decisions will afect the pocket
    that is something that
    has appeared to be
    a disconnect
    between the OC and OLC
    in a few simple statements
    he proves that webb
    will be more productive
    and there is something
    to be said about success
    it breeds confidence in
    players and they can find
    the doors to better performance

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'll have to do more chode-nibbling if Chilo beats out Lance for the RG spot. Webb could always run-block, which is why he could only ever be 50% terrible. Sometimes it's good to be big - we could look freakishly good behind that line with E-rod blocking for Bush ... especially when Cutty fakes the handoff and sprints right to find his bro downfield.

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    I love what Emery did. It takes balls to select 5 skill players & 1 lineman. Even his lineman is somewhat of a skill player.

    I was waiting for secondary picks cause I believe that's his best area. He took 3 just like that. The TE is a superb move. I trust Emery when drafting TE. I mean the Chiefs (Pioli is on the money) drafted Tony Moeaki with the 2 Patriots and Graham from NO. Everybody wants what these 2 teams have. The Chiefs are them. So way ahead in the game. Emery knows...

    I like the non drafting of lineman in the low rounds. The 7th round guard never plays. The 7th round corner can be a starter on special teams if he really, really, really wants it.

    He drafted DAY 1 CONTRIBUTORS. SO MUSH FOR NOT GIVING LOVIE ENOUGH HELP. Are you kidding me? What kind of a monster team will Toub have in his hands ??? I mean the only lineman drafted has a blue grading in special teams!
    Tice got more presents this offseason than Christmas '76 . Talk about weapons. Different type of weapons. Hey Hoke... it's tough against Green bay and Detroit right? How about you get all your 4 starters back plus 5 new guys. But you have to share with Toub pleeease. Even Babich got something (cause the Bears like having 6 LB starters and 2-3 OL starters).

    Very strange Free Agency looking back. In FA if you don't plan to sign Geoff Schwartz or others people say " he plans to draft one". He didn't. He just didn't want to touch the line. He could have signed Schwartz ... just to be sure... I think.

    I am an Emery fan. Great stuff without his team & little time to work.

    Mihai (Romania)

  • this dude is going somewhere else man, why not us?: http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7872684/osi-umenyiora-scoffs-new-york-giants-contract-offers

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    In reply to MB30SD:

    BTW, looking at the numbers. He's playing for $4 million this season. He wants 4 years with $15-17 guaranteed and a total of 30-$40million. Seems steep. What will he be worth at the end of the contract when he is 34-35 years old?

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    yeah, I get all the reasonable and logical reasons why not Mike... I just keep thinking that if this is a win this year team and we're trying to pull out all the stops.

    But you're right, if they don't have the means, they just don't.

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    In reply to MB30SD:

    Salary cap is probably the main reason. But maybe they are on it as we speak....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The Giants offered Osi half of Kiawanuka's guaranteed cash They want a first rounder for him. We want Osi? He costs us Forte.

    In a win-now mindset you could make the move, play hard-yards Bear football on offense and smashmouth defense ... and you'd win the superbowl. You'd also have lost a HB that would be around longer than the end you got for him. Maybe.

    Right now we don't really have a DE rotation which I think was a big part of the Giants winning the last superbowl (on O it was the line and receivers, not Eli). Izzy and Pep are getting on. Shea will be learning. Throw Osi into the mix however and we're in a completely different ballgame. It's fresh legs on every defensive snap. Now you've actually got the personnel to play a little '46'. Something Rex Ryan needs to learn - you need the guys that can beat their blocks, you can't just play the Xs and Os.

    But it costs you Matt Forte.

    We can't afford to give up a first round pick next year. There is a sacrifice to be made, and you would need balls as big as China to make it.

  • You'd need a front office that was willing to take him in trade too, and the Giants ain't it.
    Try again.

  • Sounds like a trainer or somebody associated to a trainer is squealing:


    Doesn't make me fuzzy warm, I have to say. I guess we have to wait until live drills to see if he's Columboed or not.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Fuck. dude, he's toast. I've said it since last year. He has been out since THE SECOND GAME LAST SEASON and he's still not fucking 100%? This is the second time this has happened to him, he's done.

    Fuck maings... we better get another tackle from somefuckingwhere... even if it's that UDFA we just picked up. I hope you know what you're doing tice/lovie/emery.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Lance could do it if carimi is frakked, but we'd be down a good guard then. Lac isn't feeling too sweet either and the man's 34. Pray to your gods and little yellow fishes. Who is Lac's backup anyway? Dom DiCiccio?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Is it too early to start looking into next year's top OT prospects?

    Top 30 2013 Draft Prospects.

    "7. Ricky Wagner, Wisconsin, OT: The Badgers traditionally feature big, physical offensive tackles with solid technical skills. Wagner certainly fits that mold and shines on the outside in isolated matchups. Although he still needs to clean up some of the rough patches in his game, Wagner is a franchise-caliber offensive tackle to keep an eye on in 2012."


  • Yes, it's too early.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Especially since our first rounder may be on the table for Osi. You know Emery is thinking about it. Cos I am, and the man plain read my mind on Marshall and Bush. I didn't have the balls to even consider Jason Campbell.

    I just don't see how any team in the NFL could contend with our offense, defense and ST in the Osi scenario (keeping Forte).

    If it meant you won a Lombardi this year ... would you give up a first round pick?

  • You just said "We can't afford to give up a first round pick next year. (for Osi)"...

    Irish, you cramp my brain sometimes.

  • http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-freeagent-ot-greene-hopes-to-make-music-with-bears-20120430,0,410509.story

    Two fucking american idol contestants. Sweet.

    btw, Biggs... buy yourself a fucking treadmill man. Or at the very least cut back to 5 hotdogs per sitting. Jesus chris.


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Boy, tough crowd here. Hey MB, not everybody can be an Adonis like you and I. Actually, I think Biggsy is one of the best Bears writers out there. I'm not an informed consumer when it comes to football like most of you guys but I really feel I'm getting my money's worth (yeah, I know it's free but you know what I mean) from him. They talk about playing til the whistle blows, I think he writes til the whistle blows....

  • In reply to tobijohn:


    Biggsy is indistinguishable from giant Batali. We've all seen it.


  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I'm all about him most of the time man. It comes mostly from my desire not to have the guy die mid sentence man. Pure and simple health.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm hearing you on the health think MB. I'm currently dealing with a rather nasty bout of prostitus. It feels like a broom stick got shoved up my ass. Why in the world anyone would want to mess with that particular part of the body is way beyond my reasoning.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That Jessica Sanchez kid sang "I will always love you" and did it better than Whitney, or Dollytits. Tube it.


    "Instant Analysis" NFL Draft Grades are about as useful as:

    A) Tits on a Bull.

    B) Lead Balloons.

    C) A Cast Iron Life Preserver.

    D) All of the above.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Deodorant in France?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Solar powered flash light?

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:


  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Chocolate teapot?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Hydrogen filled Zeppelins?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Good one. How about 100% oxygen atmosphere Apollo One capsules?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Matt Forte's agent?

    Frank Omiyale... as a punt returner?

    Roger Goodell as a PR man?

    Sam Hurd jerseys?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Dancing holographic monkey?

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    In reply to Albertintucson:

    A world series ticket for the Cubs

  • Alright, since we couldn't get Keuchly this year, I guess we'll have to settle for the 6'3 255 MLB version of Kruetz next year in Manti Te'o


  • Now that would be a great replacement for #54....Urlachers heir

  • If Forte demands a trade, I suggest shipping him to Indy for a 1st round draft pick. That cat won't drop past the 5th pick next year.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Yeah, Manti "the Terminator" Te'o is like a bigger, faster, nastier Hightower - we need to somehow get another 1st/high 2nd to trade up for him. A lot of experts said that if he would have entered the draft this year, he would've been drafted ahead of Keuchly.

  • I've watched him since his first day at ND. That kid is special. No character issues for him either. I seriously think he is the next great one. #54, Ray Lewis,Mike Singletary....big things in store for him.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    he lives about 45 minutes north of me Murph... should I go talk to him this summer? Play a little lovie?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    4.54 40 low (4.76 high)... so they have his official at 4.64

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Do what you gotta do!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hop on the bike, do a long leisurely ride, give up some Bear love for the kid.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    In order to get a first for Forte, not only would she have to be luckier than Demi Moore balling Kuchter for as long as she did, but it would have to be to a team with a mountain of cap space, if any exist.

  • We'll be picking 32nd though. Ha.

  • I didn't see any pass coverage plays in the vid - can he play the pass?

    What if he scores a Claiborne in the Wonderlic? To replace Brian we need it all.

  • NFL.com has a 2013 draft feature up tonight. Te'o not listed in the top 30, which is great news because if he's as good as you guys say, we can take him in round 1 even if we win the Superbowl.

    After this years draft, here is my prediction for which positions will get attention next year:

    Top 2: DT, OT
    3-5: QB, LB, CB
    6-7: RB, RB

    I think Emery is likely to make the late round doubling up a habit. Its an interesting way to increase your chances of getting a hit in a certain position group with late round picks.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Von Miller went #2, if the dude is as good as advertised, then any mock drafts for next year are worth the TP that Biggsy's just used.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    A wonderful 6th and 7th round strateegery NB. I kinda had a similar play back in the day. I used to wear 2 different types of cologne at the same time, a very effective strategy indeed.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:


  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    And on the subject, this is kinda cool.


  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Watch for yourself New, The guy can play! Non stop motor.....great instincts. Last year McClellin was listed as a good value pick in the 5th round. So much for those next year predictions.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Hey, I don't disagree with anyone. My observation is just that (hopefully) he won't be gone in the top 10 picks. If he does, we can't get him because I'm hoping we're going to get lousy draft position in 2013.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Exactly - if our first rounder isn't in the 30's next year, I'll be disappointed.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    by the time this kid finishes this year... if he has a similar year to all others (so yeah, it's highly likely).... he'll be a top 5-10 pick.

    I actually watched a bunch of high school tape on him last night and he was a bad ass running back too. The kid can straight out PLAY. Would love to get him.

    We're going to need to do SOMETHING for ILB next year, might as well be a franchise move.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Well, we'll have to mortgage the draft to move up from 32 all the way to a top 10 pick. It might be worth it given how short the window is for the current roster - lots of late 20's to early 30's guys approaching the end of their current deals.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    It is totally not worth it. You want to be the Atlanta Falcons? You'll have a great regular season record, then get killed in the playoffs by teams with full rosters that know how to isolate your 2-3 stars.

    What the Bears need to do is keep drafting smart. If we have draft success, the big play guys will come. And if we have a glaring need, we can usually go to FA to fill it.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    No, no, no...no Falcons for me. I killed them last year for trading their draft for Jones. However, coming off of a Super Bowl victory, I can see how we'd take one more big shot at another ring if Lach decides to retire while he can still walk.
    The long term is, we will need those draft picks for the same reason I gave for the "win-now" mindset - we have alot of stars now that are at or after their peak and that means we're going to start having to fill positions we've taken for granted over the last few years (WLB, MLB, DE, CB).

    interestingly, Perloff didn't have him in his first round next year either...but that being said, it's May 1st, 2012. We have a long, long way to go.

    Net-net, it would be nice if Rose was healthy so I could invest some interest in the NBA playoffs. Without him, I just can't get worked up over a Bulls team that is doomed to an early exit.
    Aw hell, I'll watch em tonight anyway.

  • look away canada, look away: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5PZfEDnvzM

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark. He came in waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too hot. Was that race in your area?

    They have a crit in Banff during the bike fest but other than that, all the races around here are mt biking.

  • So Stanford loses Andrew Luck. Gains Barry Sanders?


  • Confirmation Phil knew what he was doing when he drafted McClellin.


    This site has a lot of game film on McClellin. After you watch a video, all a whole bunch of video selections pop up on his game film. It might be worth a look see.


  • I wonder if anyone elses interest is peaked by Gaffney. It's either that or we stick with Munson (Roy)

  • We've got 8 recievers on the roster right now. Marshall is the #1 even if we drafted Justin Blackmon. There's already competition for touches at the flanker and slot positions. He doesn't play special teams. Its not happening.

    But he could still go to the NFC North if Minny likes him.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Yep, we're not spending anything else on a WR this offseason. I don't see it.
    Man, can we get to training camp already? This is going to be a long summer.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Man I hear ya Posse, it always seems like such a long time between drafting and when we get to see em play. Boy do I see us puttin some points up this year!

  • Is this Roy Williams - who doesn't actually play for the Chicago Bears?

  • Has the season started yet?

    Extreme idiots compilation 1-7


    Guns and alcohol remain legal.

  • no, stupid people remain legal. It's an epidemic in this country.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    A good chuck of the stupidest people do spend a fair amount of time in the clink or in the system for accumulations of stupidity.

  • this is what the packers and lions will look like twice each next year: http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/cZ2CkAWH7xM.bqe2YIBfQw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusboxexperts/AMAZING-PUNCH-630.jpg

  • I love Rodriguez' blocking on the first play of his (at 1:30 on this). Man, I can see big Forte plays behind this guy...


  • In reply to SC Dave:

    he's just a straight bawler.


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    jesus rodriguez blocked 5 guys on the first play. Damn.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    btw, if they would have just billed rodriguez as areal pass-catching TE things would have been fine.

    Billing him as a tweener TE/HBack was waht blew all of us (and the press) up.

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    In reply to MB30SD:

    He finds the football...

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    It feels good hearing Emery talking about some of his reasoning behind the picks. I'm still a worried that we didn't address offensive line but I guess you can only beat a dead horse so long.

    Our weapons on offense are truly impressive. I just pray that Jay makes it. You know guys are gunning for him. When we were winning games last year it was because Jay played Houdini on multiple occasions after the blocking ceased to exist. That is not cool when you are playing the Lions and Packers.

    I'm excited and can't wait for the season to start in what seems like an eternity from now.

  • I thought the exact same thing Johnny.

    I think we all have PTSD from Angelo's dart throwing methodology (if you can call it that). Fucking cancer.

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    In reply to SC Dave:

    Oh snap!. He blocked three guys on that play..

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Does Emery sound like Your Boy Roy in that video or is it just me? Long lost relative?

  • Nerds can be cool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x1GkgbVP1I

    (and they shall inherit the earth)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    btw, I doubt he ever used the "romantic mode" outside of that one demo.

    (Hee hee)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    sad... or party mode.

    (alas, there are downsides to being a brilliant nerd)

    ((but I bet a $XXX Million buyout of his first start up and a plastic barbie doll wife will make up for all of the early trauma))

    (((yes, that is deep envy you hear in my voice)))

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That was a waste of 5 minutes and 56 seconds.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    and a waste of 3 months and a few hundred dollars of his life.

  • Artoo, was it you that posted Dom DiCicco showed up at camp in amazing shape? What's the word on that guy? Is he going to turn into something down the line?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Every time I see his name, the picture that pops in my mind is Dom DeLuise in pads.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Amigo, I tweet out so much info, that to be honest I don't remember lol

    I could have.

  • you think normal mock draft are fucking ridiculous and pointless... how about one a year out: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/andrew_perloff/05/01/2013.nfl.mock.draft/1.html

    Perloff, dude... you need to get a real job maings. I'm sure it will go down exactly like that. Why not just publish a list of who he thinks the top 32 CFB talents next year will be? Silly. bt the by.... he has us picking at 28... reaaaaaally dude!?!? And our new man-crush Manti isn't in the top 32.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    to follow THAT up... might as well go with 2012 season pre-rankings.


    I think they are decent actually. Only a couple points:

    1. The defending champs almost never make a follow up run (GBcough... ahem... GB)

    2. Really? Fucking really? the lions and the broncos ahead of us? The broncos will be lucky if the turtle's neck holds up for 2-3 games, never mind the whole season (but they DO have hanie... hee hee). They just better be hoping he never gets hit.

    The lions will implode this season. Fuck them... they have two lesbians at QB and cursed Megatron.

    I think we’re pre-season top 5-6. And yes, I am a homer.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I read one where the guy CLAIMED that the 2013 order was picked at random and here is a sample of the 'randomness':

    top pick: raiders (possible)
    top 10: vikes and bears (one right, one dead wrong)
    #28: detroit (fuck offf)
    #29: texans
    #30: iggles
    #31: pats
    #32: pack

    What a knob.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think the Meows will crash, just like the Bucs. They didn't beat a team with a winning percentage, and their schedule is much tougher now.

    The Jags, not the Colts, will be in last place because Luck is already better than Gabbert.

    The Eagles are good on paper for the 2nd straight year, but Vick always gets injured. He's usually out for about 4 games/year. In that division, that's roughly about 3 extra losses.

    Bengals will regress. Don't know why, a sophomore Qbs always regresses (Bradford) - in that tough division, that's the difference.

    2012 "Surprise" Team: Da Bears. Happens every year. Cutler's inj may have been a blessing in disguise; it enabled Angelo, Martz, Ruskell to get fired - Tice to move up to OC - Emery to be hired, and as such, trade for Marshall, Campbell, Bush AND draft DE McBraveheart and WR Alson.

    Because of our 8-8 record last year, our schedule is not as tough, and we get back two firt rounder Olinemen in Carimi and Williams.

    Down the cool aid boys.

  • this thing on?

    ...hello? (thump, thump) hello?

  • http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-04-29/bengals-sign-mercurial-linebacker-vontaze-burfict?eadid=EL/SICOM

    kid needs to see a therapist, and be in anger management classes. Too bad we didn't pick him up for a coke and a smile.

  • Who got you into football?


  • nice piece and a nice tribute Erik. Well done lad.

    btw, my older brother. I got invited to play pick up full tackle games on the weekends with my bro and his friends... all starters on the varsity high school team while I was still in the 8th grade. That's where I learned to hit or get destroyed. Good times.

  • That is excellent stuff Artoo, that's the kind of thing I will never experience (what with family not caring for the sport and living in the UK) and I truly envy you for it.

    I got into the bears in the '06 season as well. I was 15 and I genuinely had no interest in American sports-I preferred fitba (soccer). My friend liked American sports and he had Madden 07, so when I was round at his house we had a couple of games. I had no idea what was going on so I made an effort to learn and I picked the game up myself. I created a fantasy player and he got drafted by the Bears and that started it. I decided to follow them in real life.

    Now, my friends called me a glory hunter for that as they were 7-1 at that point. I didn't care. It was difficult just reading scores online and I couldn't really watch games as at that moment on time we only had basic channels, which showed one, sometimes two, games a week (sunday night and occaisonally monday night). I didn't bother watching anything in week 10-13 as the games weren't on tv. So I just learned more about the game in the meantime. However in week 14 the Bears/Rams was on so I recorded the game and watched it monday evening after school.

    That game sealed the deal for me. Devin Hester returned two kickoffs in that game, the 2nd one being when the Bears lined up anticipating an onside kick (and after Isaac Bruce told them not to kick it to him!). I remember him coasting into the endzone dragging his feet and kicking up the black bits of turf as he did. I asked for a Hester and Urlacher jersey for Christmas, only got Urlacher but that's hardly a step down now is it?

    Then they made the Superbowl. Me and some friends recorded it and watched it on the monday after school, not knowing the score. Hester returned the kick. Elation! Coverage fell apart and Manning boomed a TD. Fuck. Grossman shovel pass for the lead. Joy! Vinatieri missing a FG (my friend told me about his past SB kicks)! Harris interception! Tough D!

    Then it went downhill. Offense completely derailed, defense playing soft, kicking away from Devin and the game killing INT from Grossman to Hayden. I was screaming at the tv, hoping that the replay would show his foot going out of bounds....but to no avail. Game over. Colts win. Better luck next time. One of my friends laughed at me for getting so worked up so I hit him and left. He understood (eventually).

    So that's that. Certainly one of the most unorthodox methods of selecting a team, but hey, thank God my player didn't get drafted by the Packers...

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    eeeewwwww... the humanity. Good tale.

  • My GOD: https://twitter.com/#!/JimmyTraina/status/197348151819116546

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Fuck Sanchez if he is tapping that.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    yeah man. the dirty sanchez.

    Life is so unfair.

    If it was fitz, or cam, or dalton, or even rodgers (well, maybe not rodgers... he's gay after all)... but fucking sanchez? Really?

    Fuck my life.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    she is SO fucking hot.

    AND she can move... i bet she's an angry vixen in bed maings. so yummy.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Don't torture yourself MB. She is hot but she wasn't moving that great. Not to mention when they're that hot they really don't have to try harder. Not that I have any personal data to back that up but it's my way of dealing with it. Denial, denial, denial.

  • NB, this is for you: http://uncrate.com/stuff/tobacco-beard-oil/

  • just checking...

    this is bad, right: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1204/leading-off-043012/content.15.html

  • It's already begun..and I'm loving no luv to our boyzzzzzz:




    WOW. I feel better now, going to hibernate till camp..THAT IS ALL!!!!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Good call Lobo.

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