The Quick Slant Pattern Returns to the City of Chicago

Phil Emery's brilliant acquisition of Brandon Marshall will change the way offensive football is played in Chicago. More importantly it will change the way offensive football is defended by Bears opponents. Because of Marshall safeties will no longer be able to sit behind linebackers in the box to stop the run game, allowing Matt Forte space he's never seen as a member of this franchise. Because of Marshall corners will now be afraid to employ tough tactics at the line of scrimmage, knowing he needs only a foot of space to turn 7 yards into 70. Because of Marshall opposing defensive coordinators will spend the week prior to facing this club knowing the Bears now have a three-headed monster on the offensive side of the ball for the first time in the long, proud history of the franchise.

What excites me is the return of the quick slant - in my opinion the most consistently effective play in the NFL. (For more information on the quick slant, watch the video above. It's actually not bad once you get past the hysterical public television aspect.) Why do I love the quick slant? Bullet points, baby:

  • Short-yardage. When you have a big-ticket receiver on the outside, third-and-ones no longer become a run up the middle formality. If Cutty sees a corner playing off Marshall the ball is getting outside. Marshall is not only impossible to cover, he's also incredibly difficult to tackle.
  • Goalline. How many touchdowns has Aaron Rodgers thrown for two yards or less? I don't know the stat but I feel like I see it every week. Same rules apply here as do with the short yardage scenarios.
  • Blitz Combat. There is no more effective means of combating the blitz than quick-tossing the ball to your wide receivers. Teams came at the Bears with more defenders than the Bears were prepared to block in 2011 and it resulted in far too many negative plays. (This includes false starts caused by antsy offensive tackles worrying about being overrun.) Now those teams will blitz reluctantly with the knowledge that they may only have a second or two to reach the quarterback before he puts the ball in Marshall's hands.
  • Bears Offensive Line. Pass rushers thrive in clear pass rushing situations. (Duh.) Too often in the Martz scheme the Bears would find themselves in third-and-moderate and drop Cutty deep into a pocket. This subsequently exposed the flaws in our perimeter blockers - Webb and Louis. The Marshall acquisition will mean more throws on first and second downs. It will mean forcing edge rushers to play statue, hands up football as opposed to battering ram, kill the quarterback football. It will build the line's confidence to see passing number ascend while sack totals descend.

In 2010 it seemed every Cutler slant toss was either off a receiver's chest or caught by a defensive back. The 2011 Bears season was ruined by a slant pattern. Johnny Knox lacked the physicality and footwork to execute the pattern effectively. He fell down. Interception. Cutler. Tackle. Thumb. Hanie. 19th pick in the draft. Knox was on the route because the Bears had no one else to run it. Roy Williams lacks the hands. Earl Bennett lacks the speed. Dane Sanzenbacher lacks a lot of things.

There is no more lacking on the outside for the Chicago Bears. Brandon Marshall is among of a handful of the most talented receivers in the sport. His arrival brings an explosiveness the Bears have not had on the outside since perhaps Willie Gault. His arrivals means the installation of the league's most consistent weapons: the quick slant.

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  • since it's sunday
    to all of that

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    That was a great first post.

    Jeff is right. This year is going to be exciting.

  • good piece on ESPN
    outside the lines
    revealing NFL Mgmnts.
    position on concussions
    during the Jin Mcmahon era
    great interview with Jimmy Mac
    try to find it now
    on sportscenter
    under the heading
    Taking It's Toll
    he is among a group
    of former players
    who are suing the NFL

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    Doesnt surprise me he's in on that. The next step is fighters suing the boxing commisions.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    +1. Or every Irishman suing each other.

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    Watch the the games from the '85 season, before the "we gotta protect the QB" mandate. The beating McMahon takes is brutal.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Yup, Brees, Brady, and women like Peyton Manning should all have asterisks besides any records. Different times. Jimmy was a tough boy.


    Have at it guys..

    What do you think about these predictions?

  • The first link is about Stephen Hill, so if you want to know a little bit more about him go to it.

  • lets see if it happens. saying it and doing it are two different things when it come to football in the NFL

  • In reply to stats3599:

    To which one?

  • I think Hill will take time to develop. If we could pick boom or bust we would all be GM's for some NFL team. I'm excited to see Marshall play in a Bears uniform. I agree with Jeff's take on the quick slant. Jerry Rice made a living on that play with Montana and Young. I'm excited to see how the Bears draft this year. See what Emery's philosophy will be. We could very possibly have the most exciting offense I have ever seen. I can't wait!

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    No doubt Murph. Wouldn't it be nice to have a deep WR core like Green Bay?

    Marshall, Bennett, and Hill? Could be dangerous...

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Hill has too much size/speed to last till the second. However, the Pats and a few other teams did us a favor by picking up a bunch of 2nd rate WRs, so there's going to be some nice WR prospects on the board for us in the 2nd/3rd round.

    The genius part about getting Marshall is that we no longer HAVE to draft a WR in the first two rounds, and we no longer have to draft a 6'4 guy (though it'd be nice). This draft is so deep with WR, it's almost certain a great developmental WR will fall to us.

    Tommy Streeter from the U is a guy I would love to get in the 3rd. He's 6'5 215 and ran a 4.34. In measurables, he's like Hill.

    Streeter can stretch the field while Marshall and Bennett can get open underneath.


  • watching the 40's
    I was impressed by
    but, Hill was also
    what stood out for me
    streeter runs track so his form
    coming out of the blocks
    was classic
    Hill stood right up
    kept his head up
    and still was in the 4.3's
    with proper training
    he could be a few ticks quicker
    his form was more akin to a reciever
    who has to see the field and defender
    alot of these recievers kept their heads down
    for the first 15 yards
    if he is coachable could be a gem
    I was also impressed
    Doc Ntty's McNutt
    he ran much faster than expected
    it looks like a wideout with upside
    will be able to be had in this draft
    maybe into the 3rd

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    You kind of left out the most obvious of them all.
    Giving the 'Franchise Quarterback' the mind blowing option of changing plays at the line of scrimmage.

    Button line... the only real offense the Bears can have is a bought offense.
    Fine with me... but I hope that Emery plans "for the first time in the long, proud history of the franchise" to build a real offense around these guys. Marshall is a monster trade, but how about setting a standard of offensive players for the Bears?
    The left side of the O Line is a joke and is going to get the 'Strong as an Ox Franchise Quarterback' hurt for the third time in as many years !!!

    Mihai (Romania)

  • In reply to Barb Mar:

    You will find that several of us agree that the offensive line needs work.

    If you've posted before and I have not noticed, I'm sorry. But either way, welcome to the blog!

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    In reply to SC Dave:

    No. That was my first post. Nice picking that up.
    But I always read the blog and the comments.

    Mr. Hughes thinks that quick passes, basic psychology and the bigger role of Tice will make out for better Offensive Linemen. So... what happens if the star WR gets hurt? Well Cutler gets buried... again.

    I hope Emery watches what his Chiefs did last week. They gave their 'Not so Franchise Quarterback' who got killed last year...a Right Tackle... next to the other good ones, a solid-great blocking RB... next to their star RB, a solid blocking TE next to their star TE and they already had a star WR how can play the Quick Slant opposite the 6 ft 4 1st rounder, the slot solid WR and the Hester like KR, PR, RB, WR 2nd rounder.
    Oh... and they have a solid, young close to dominating defense and great special teams.

    If other moves don't follow, the astonishing Marshall move is just a quick fix.
    What makes me feel good is the Chiefs secondary. I mean Emery had a big role in the Flowers, Berry, Arenas, Lewis picks.
    Just hope he makes such an impact with the Bears remaining offensive weaknesses.

    Mihai (Romania)

  • In reply to Barb Mar:

    Is ~Mihai~ signing your name? Or is that a Romanian type signature/farewell since the great poet passed?

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    In reply to EnderWiggin:

    It's my name. It's the Michael name here.
    I write where I'm from not for some silly national pride, but as an excuse for the english errors that surely occur. And the fact that I really don't understand american football all that much.

  • In reply to Barb Mar:

    I think you're are doing quite well at both!

    Based on your post, I assume you're okay with gentle corrections. In your original post, you used "button line" - I believe you meant "bottom line". It originates from business accounting where the final profit or loss number is the last, or bottom line, of the report.

    Your understanding and usage of "bottom line" was perfect.

  • In reply to Barb Mar:

    Welcome to the blog. Don't worry, we won't tease you too much if your English isn't perfect. We all screw it up occasionally. You won't find a better place to talk Bears football.

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    In reply to CanadaBear:

    Thanks for the nice welcome.

  • In reply to Barb Mar:

    You still face a small period of hazing.

    Nitty, USA

  • In reply to Barb Mar:

    the romanian sensation
    bringing a world-wide
    to the room full of views
    Chicago has a proud history
    of immigrant flavor
    thank you for coming
    and for speaking out

  • In reply to Barb Mar:

    Whaddaya mean, Jeff left it out, Barbie? It's implied:

    "If Cutty sees a corner playing off Marshall the ball is getting outside."

    Well, kind of.

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    In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Freedom for Cutler to call his own plays are 'implied'? Well not for some 'geniuses' Butts.

  • In reply to Barb Mar:

    Barb's diminutive fits you, Crunch!

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Watch it, Carolina.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Butts! Seymour Butts! Mwah!

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:


    You can call me Crunch. You can call me Buttsteak. You can call me Butts or even Seymore Butts. But don't ever call me Dick Butkus. That's just f'ed up.

  • In reply to Barb Mar:

    Wha? I think you misunderstood.

    If I read the first bullet point correctly, Jeff is basically saying that Cutler will have the option to call a quick pass to Marshall in short yardage situations where defenders give Marshall too much of a cushion.

  • In reply to Barb Mar:

    Dude, Romanian Bears fan ? Servus!

    Yes, it still beggars belief that Cutty didn't have the option to audible and I see him having a much smoother passage this year (touch wood).

    Your English is native-speaker level. How so? I'm a teacher, just curious.

  • Irish,

    in most european countries, english is taught in school starting at age 12. Add to that fact that we are confronted daily with english in movies, music and all other sorts of media (which helps tremendously for the vocabulary), and by the time we are 18, we have a firm grasp of the language. Then comes university, where most courses are taught in english, or use english syllabi.

    Belgium is a bilingual country (french and dutch), and a lot of my dutch friends speak better english than french.

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    The Bear bellow is right. I started in school at 9 years old (28 now) with 5 hours of english a week. Plus I read more stuff in english (like this site) than in my native language (just books really).

    PS: Here they started showing 2 games/sunday 8 years ago. Of course now I watch games in steaming, or that NFL Redzone & NFL shortcuts.

    Enough about me, please. Let's talk bears.

  • In reply to Barb Mar:

    Non-natives generally make mistakes, even 'fluent' Dutch speakers of English, who will say 'persons' instead of 'people'. Coming from Europe I'm well aware that many European countries produce good English speakers, but not so much Romania - and there are many many Romanians in Ireland. Your English is flawless.

    Thai kids get the same amount of English ed as you, starting at the same time, but they leave school basically not speaking a word after 9 years of 'learning'.

  • I thought Martz had no part in what went wrong last season...

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    In reply to Shady:

    Only in what little went wrong in Cutler's life. I would think he has Martz ahead of diabetes.

    Mihai (Romania)

  • In reply to Shady:

    he didn't
    just ask him

  • Can't believe that when we are discussing the bears that you picked a video in which the receiver dropped the ball on the slant Jeff. Are you taking the piss?

    Of course I am excited as you are about the slant being a potent element of our offense. It has wound me up for years that Hasslebeck/Palmer/[insert mediocre QB here] has been able to tear our D apart with the slant and we can't do it back.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Here are some practice slants that aren't dropped. Guess who's throwing them? Read the video description:

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    That was funny. You think they'd find a receiver, or at least throw another pass.

  • Three Brandon Marshall one-handers:

    And in honor of Brandon Marshall on St. Patrick's Day weekend - "Borderline," by the Irish band Thin Lizzy:

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    And in honor of my bad old days on this wonderful Irish American holiday:

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I see what you did there. But that's Chelsea, London, not Manhattan.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Ah, you get the idea. Anyway, here's another great one from them:

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    he is sorta freaky
    analyzing his sexual experience
    based on jailhouse relationships
    what the heck
    it is a catholic holiday
    and you know
    those preists

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Go on the Lizzy! Still missed Philo ... codladh sámh.

  • Love me some Thin Lizzy. Boys are Back in Town still makes my nads swell.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    What I love about the first one is that even when he's covered closely they still can't do anything about it.

    Cutty to Marshall hookups - apologies for the music. Do mute.

  • His YAC ability really must be unparalleled in the league. Catching the ball is just step one for him. I can't wait to unleash the boys.

  • The second catch in the first video I posted is incredible. Not merely a one-hander, it's a left-handed one-hander. But the amazing thing is that Marshall manages to reel the ball in despite being slapped in the helmet - possibly face masked (you can see Marshall's head draw back) - while the ball is balancing on the fingertips of his outstretched arm.

  • Man, after the catch, he just doesn't quit. There's one catch at about 4:30 where he knows he's going to get decked by a DB and it didn't phase him at all. The guy is fearless. He also seemed to be a lot bigger than anyone who was covering him. It looked like kids were chasing him....

  • Alex Smith changing agents is a big hint...

    Peyton and Alex had the same agent and now Alex is looking for a new one..

    Why would he be upset with his agent..

    I wish there was a place I could have put money down in January that Manning would a be 49er. It's looking more like it. Moss, Crabtree, Manningham, Davis, and Frank Gore.

    All they need is a qb people.

  • That's assuming Manning is still elite. He may be, he might not be. Crabtree has shown nothing from the little bit I've seen. Moss, who knows? Gore is getting more beat up by the day. Manningham is a nice 2-3. Davis is a beast. I'm not trying to say they won't be top tier this year, I think they will. But every year is different and old stars aren't always what you think they will be. Heck stars from last year can lose it seemingly overnight.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Valid point. The only reason I think all those people I listed will be good is because Manning was good at making no names look good.

    It will take an elite QB to make Moss and Crabtree to not act like divas.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    i feel he is healthy
    it would shock me
    if he was doing this
    knowing he wasn't quite ready
    that would take the shine
    off his image
    and tarnished is not something
    he wants to live with

    that being said
    he may be fragile
    and begin to break down
    his body has been inactive
    for a long time
    and he ain't no spring chicken

  • They have the best roster for him all right, but that GM job offer in Tennessee might be a bigger carrot. Don't really want him in our conference with those weapons do we? No one really scares me at the moment, but the Niners with Turtlehead ....

  • It would be really sick if they got him. Five Superbowls already. Joe Montana. Steve Young ... and now Peyton Manning? That's just not fair.
    Titans please.

  • Manning in SF scares the shit out of me. Please no.

  • Frank Gore gushes over "one of the best ever" Peyton Manning

    Now why talk bad about your boy Alex?

  • Manning from 2 years ago on SF scares me. He is broken and at the end of his career. I'm actually scared for his health at this point. If he dies on the field or gets paralyzed they'll probably start calling for football to be banned since it was him that it happened to.
    Manning at this point is not to be feared.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    I think Manning can still be successful but I was reading CHFF and they had stats of Manning's decline. Very interesting. Manning has been in the exact same offense his entire pro career. Those days are over. I agree about his health. I hope he doesn't get too beat up and has the good sense to pull the plug before the inevitable.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    The whole thing kinda makes you wonder. It's not like he needs more rings to make the HoF, and I can't imagine he actually needs the money.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Manning at this point (barring death on the field) is better than Alex Smith ever was. If you put the 4 time MVP at even 80% on the team that almost went to the bowl, with that defense and Gore, and you thrown in Moss, how can you not be a little concerned. Perhaps scared is too strong. To not be a little concerned is just plain crazy.

    All of this aside, how the 9ers do in Harbaughs sophomore coaching year, is a big story to me.

  • 1. point noted
    2. we don't actually know what Manning is capable of at this point. I would imagine he is somewhat capable since he was throwing for multiple teams. I don't want to see a capable Manning on a good SF team. I don't want to see him die either. I feel like he is going to get knocked the fuck out.

    3. SC Dave, he doesn't need the money and it's about more than the rings. Warriors can't turn it off...ever, and that is why they achieve so much while they are in their prime and just can't let it go when it's time to hang it up. Every sport has it's version of the guy that was so special that it hurt to watch him in the decline.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    he will probably
    be getting rid of the ball
    quicker than he did in indy

    he will be blitzed
    no bounty of course

  • sophmore jinx ?

  • If he's stretchered off and never walks again he can't say he wasn't warned. Clearly he was told not to play again, hence the Colts let him walk. If he pushes on because of ego, then maybe the man upstairs has a lesson for him to learn. No sympathy here.

    Woot! Woot!

  • Good article! The quick slant off of an audible was actually Cutler's strongest pass in Denver. (Cutler would audible and actually run 2 steps along the line and throw back against his body). And it was Marshall's best move- he would actually catch a lightening bolt and then reverse field- ala Devin Hester. Have seen every pass between them (Denver and Bears fan-since 1959). That Cutler couldn't throw this in Chicago (except occasionally to Olsen) is a testimony to the laziness of our OCs here (Turner and Martz) and our lack of a quality receiver.

    Marshall is much better than advertised -on the field- and has much worse mental problems than advertised- off the field. He is a very smart- emotionally overachieving guy with a real serious mental illness. This is why some people defend him- because if you had what he has- well- most of the sufferers wind up in asylums, prison, or dead- usually suicide.

  • In reply to sdw2is:

    I've been very impressed with how Marshall has carried himself, especially in the presser for Chicago. Clearly Michi wasn't available to help him pick out a shirt and tie, but hey.

    He displays something which many players don't. He actually pauses to reflect when he's in front of the microphone. He doesn't rush. There's a very active intellect there, that's rare. In another interview he was asked the stock "Waht was it like growing up on the streets of Pittsburgh. He paused, mulled it over and then just said "You have all that."

    When he ripped the piss out of Joey Porter on TV that time, it was priceless, I like him. Hope it all works out in Chicago. Céad míle fáilte.

  • Marshall is on a roll tonight. You'll like this tweet Irish. It's a pic of his wife and himself in the jacuzi, tagged "Hi Haters":!/BMarshall/status/181587415369134080/photo/1

  • As if Rodgers and ManBoobs weren't enough reason to get another pass rusher, now Manning might go to 49ers? (I also thought that would be a logical destination for him but didn't think the 9ers would dump the qb that nearly got them to the SB).

    Mercilus is beginning to look really good.

    Protect our QB or kill theirs? hmmmm...

  • No Matt Flynn in Miami.

  • He is going to Seattle.

  • Wow. Even though I predicted the move, MIA is assed out.

    That is really really good for us. That means that MIA is going to reach for a qb with their 9th overall pick (many had them taking T Riley Reiff).

    Unless of course, Manning goes to the 9ers and they scoop up Alex Smith. Crazy stuff.

  • Does Miami have anybody on the roster at QB? They're looking pretty good to get Matt Barkley in 2013.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I think Matt Moore did pretty good for them after Henne went down but nobody thinks he's a franchise kind of QB....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Matt Moore did do a nice job but..guess what this opens up..

    If Alex Smith turns down the Dolphins..Can anyone say..Tebow?

  • More importantly, if Manning signs with Denver.

    Once Manning It just makes too much sense. And it could ruin Philbin's chance of keeping his job. But I think the stars would align for it to happen.

  • It's my understanding that Alex Smith has an offer from the 49ers. If he really wanted to mess with them, he'd just sign it now. Not sure though if the 49ers could then cut him before the season even begins and then not have to pay him for 2012....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    OTOH, If Smith signs with someone else and the 49ers don't prevail in the Manning sweepstakes, they're kind of screwed....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    They really are. Though, Garrard would be happy to start again.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Here's hoping. Although Smith staying with them is the best thing for us. This season didn't fool anyone, the guy sucks.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Actually, I kind of disagree on the Alex Smith thing, and not because I think he's a great QB.
    Manning is turning into Favre redux.

    His ego has dragged out the last week to the point where it is creating problems for teams that want to target protection for him in FA.

    His mobility has never been great, and now his endurance and arm strength are questionable to the point where he's had to go through drills for his suitors.

    The 49ers are a team built around protecting the football, running effectively, and dominating with their D. Alex's ability to escape pressure and pick up 1st downs with his feet was a huge component of their success last year as he did not have to take shots downfield when they weren't there.

    The 49ers receiving corps is now chock-full of head-cases, with the possible exception of Vernon Davis. Moss, Crabtree, and Manningham all have histories of being disruptive on the O side of the ball, with two of the three having injury histories that make them possible question marks.

    I'm just not that convinced that Manning at this point dramatically improves that team. I can see him having some really rough outings to begin the year.

  • my miami freinds
    will be in shock
    monday A.M.

  • Still not signed:

    Michael Bush - Heard Cutler say in an interview that he is "texting him trying to get him to sign on"

    Mike Tolbert - No interest from Halas, but popular on the blog.

    LaRon Landry - Not sure if Emery would want him to be honest

    Marcus McNeil - Injury concerns driving the price down? Would we take him to camp for cheap?

    Erin Henderson - 26 y/o decent LB prospect from Minny.

    Amobi Okoye - Bears DT, most believe its best for both sides if he returns.

    Plaxico Burress - Another blog favorite. Why not bring him to camp?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I really hope we get Okoye back. He has a lot to prove but should be able to.

  • We've made some good upgrades on offense and special teams this off-season. It'd be great to have Corey Graham back and see Forte sign a 5 year deal, but for right now both of those phases seem to be on the upswing.

    The D, however, hasn't seen any love. The only defensive players we signed in FA were returning guys (Jennings, Steltz, Izzy). We signed a linebacker in Anthony Costanzo, but he was brought in mainly (if not exclusively) for special teams.

    If we lose Okoye, I think we'll be slightly worse, not better, on D at the end of FA than when we started. Of course, we'd still look solid, and the main goal on D right now is to get younger, so we really are best looking at the draft.

    Still, I think Erin Henderson is the only FA out there that would make an impact on our D. But at 26, coming from a division rival, and at this point with what will likely be an affordable price tag, I can't see it being a bad plan to sign him if he works out well.

    Anyone hearing of interest in him around the league?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    A lot of teams are interested and many say he should come back to Chicago.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    That was an idea I had a couple days ago that we sigh Plax...that way we could change our motto to "Characters Welcome".
    But Plax had a pretty good year last year and is still respected, may have lost a half a step..but he catches the ball. Take him anyday over Roy

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Plax, yessir. Bush, oh yessir. Henderson, yessir. Amoeba, yessir.

    Plax is actually affordable. Can you imagine that? Beast, Plax, Bennett? KD, Spaeth? It wouldn't even be fair against opposing defenses, they'd be running around like the lollipop guild on the loose.

  • I'm going to be honest. I have a best friend that I have grown up with and we are close.

    Marshall's love for starting to weird me out!/BMarshall/status/181514657301921794/photo/1

  • bromance...

  • That painting may look like a tender moment. In actuality, this is Jay whispering to BM.. "If you don't focus, I am going to smack you again."

  • Alex Smith is likely to be a Dolphin.

    The #Dolphins are negotiating with #49ers free agent QB Alex Smith, per @MikeKlis; deal likely to be in $8 million range per report.

  • In addition to the #Patriots, #Jets, #Lions, and #Bears, the #Eagles have also reportedly gotten in the mix on free agent S LaRon Landry.

  • PLEASE! We need help back there!

  • Thanks to all of the guys working hard to get good FA material to us here on the blog.

    I think we should land Bush, Plax and draft DL and OL.

    Marshall, Bennett, Plax, KD and Hester/Williams is not a bad WR corps at all. Without improvement at OL though it won't make much difference because Jay will take a fucking beating.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Roy Williams is actually looking like he will not be back....

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    All would be solid signings.

    I look to the time last year when Tice had things pretty tightly locked up and Jay had tiem to throw - and that was with Martz and Webb on board. Even if we added nobody on OL we could have some solid starters. No depth of course.

  • As for Manning, I hope he ends up in Ten or Den, or any team in the AFC. Let the Pats and Ravens worry about him. Denver would be really nice cause then we could stop hearing about Tebus (well, at least till he becomes the backup somewhere).

    Also, if Manning spurns 49ers, they'll have to ride with Kapernick, which may have been their plan all along.

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    If Manning signs with a NFC team he will join a conference that just added Jackson & Marshall (the 2 best Top 5 WR in the AFC alogside Welker & Wallace & Johnson).

    He should choose AFC. He can win the division, but what then?

  • 49ers making moves son....

    Making a play for Manning, just signed Manningham, etc, ruh roh.

  • Thinking about the Matt Forte contract. The Bears have the cap space to remove a major question mark going forward. Let's look at the numbers...

    Previous year contracts now considered over-priced:

    Adrian Peterson - 7 years, $96M, $36M guaranteed; yearly average of $13M. In reality, only gets around $8M per year in 2011 and 2012 and around $11.5M in 2013 and 2014.

    CJ2K - 6 years (after 4 year extension), $56M, mostly guaranteed by the year (each year guaranteed at the start of the year if he isn't cut almost immediately). Yearly average of $9.3M, but $13M came as a signing bonus at the start of 2011. Really makes $8M in 2012, $10M in 2013, $8M in 2014 and 2015.

    This year's contracts (present RB market):

    Arian Foster - 5 years, $43.5M, $20.75 guaranteed. Will earn $18M in 2012 and $30M total in first three years. Yearly average of $8.5M

    Marshawn Lynch – 4 years, $31M, $17M guaranteed. Includes $6M signing bonus and all of year 1 and 2 salaries guaranteed. Yearly average of $7.9M

    Ray Rice – Franchised.

    So things I’m noticing:

    1) The average salary is still floating around $8-9M. While AP has a much higher minimum, that's due to big money on the back side (which he may never see if his production drops off). Forte's contract will also be in that range when signed. Maybe slightly higher than the tag, but just slightly. There will, however, be a bonus.

    2) This year's contracts are not paying that much less, but they are shorter. With the exception of AP, old and new generally get cheaper over time rather than pricier.

    3) Foster and Lynch both got signing bonuses that are obviously meant to cover for the low salaries they made in 2010 and 2011.

    With all of that in mind, I figure we can argue about where Forte falls in this group, but he should be looking for a similar deal. If I'm the Bears, I'd offer basically the Arian Foster deal. If I'm Forte, I'd take it as the signing bonus is huge.

    If Forte wants more money than Foster (basically if he wants to be paid like AP), I would explain to him that he'll get a deal like AP or CJ2K. There will be a modest signing bonus (say $12M this year instead of the $7.7 in tag money), but that most of the big money will be on the back end. That he will make less than Foster in 2012-2014, and that we will have the right to cut him at the beginning of each season without paying anything.

    All the extra money that makes AP's agent so much more popular than Lynch's will be an illusion.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Nice number crunching NB.

    Everything hinges on Forte: where does he rank himself?

    I'm beginning to fear that Forte thinks he's as good as AP or at the very least Foster. He's NOT.

    I also believe that Emery is being pragmatic. He's adding depth and competition through FA and not letting Forte contract hamstring his budget. He already said that there's a 3rd wave of FAs in May (after the draft), that is when I expect us to pick up a few more FAs who are dirt cheap or have been released by other teams do to draft choices.

    That is when I expect Forte's contract to get restructured.

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    Peyton Manning is flying to Denver. Is this his final free agency destination? Announcement Monday would be a great way to start the week


  • Wow, nice pic! Goosebumps.

    Hey Hunti, I get an access denied message on that that BOA link you posted at the end of the last thread. Got another?

    Wait, there's somebody at the door ..... flowers? I didn't order flowers ....

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    Nice. My screen saver now.

  • Curiouser and curiouser - somebody has blocked that story on the internet!


  • that's funny
    sending me to
    the paper peddler
    at ground zero
    of the housing bubble
    and the sky scraping
    penis envy battle
    for the banking industry

  • Jim McMahon had a powerful interview on ESPN Sunday regarding the head injuries he suffered during his career. Ignored.

  • In reply to gpldan:

  • In reply to gpldan:

    ignore him
    is my
    middle name
    i thought
    it might get
    some leg here
    i still think
    shining light on concussions
    is relevant
    it will not be
    a "beautiful" society
    when we have worn out
    and broken down soldiers
    stumbling through our
    daily experience
    without concern and caregiving
    i feel a light needs
    to be shined in this
    dark little corner
    of our ribbons and bow tied

  • Mike Wallace is rumored to still be a choice in San Francisco

  • I was willing to gloss over the arrest until I saw it was a Jimmy John's sign that he broke.

    Dude, Jimmy John's is like manna from don't mess with the JJ.

  • Manning is going to be a bronco

  • Tim Tebow to be traded

  • Jacksonville?

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  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    No. They have afirst round qb and are paying Chad Henne some change

  • I feel like Manning made a huge mistake. Not a huge monetary mistake since he was to be paid some sick ass coin but a mistake by going to a 8-8 team with few weapons.

    Oh well, Bears get a OT and draft well and we are obviously going to be contenders.

  • Jay Cutler says new offense will help the O-line. But he is pushing for upgrades. Emery better listen to Da Franchise.

  • Manning to Denver, Tebow to Miami ?

  • Tebow is going to challenge King James for the most South Beach Trim.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I have been to South Beach and I think it is perfectly acceptable to capitalize the T in trim.

  • Dolphin fans were already on the verge of lynching Jeff Ireland. If he fails to land Smith (which he will) and over-trades for Tebow (which he will), they'll be foaming at the mouth. Of course, they'll be an equal number of Floridian Tebow fans foaming at the mouth in ecstacy. This could be the event that sparks the Apocalypse.

    PS: Comment from "Blog Fodder" at the Miami Herald:
    If they sign Tebow or Garrard I will sling-shot myself around the Sun in an effort to time-warp back to 1970, so I can encourage a 7 year old me to pick a different team.

    Going to be fun to watch. Wish I had the time today.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Miami fans will give a collective, "aw, come the fuck on" to a Tebow trade. That is not his fan-base, although the dipshit front office in Miami may assume so.
    But Jacksonville is the club that fits him best, from a situational and cultural perspective.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Yeah, you're probably right. But I've been following Dolphin fan reaction since before the Phins signed Philbin, and they are SO hilariously fed up, I can't help but think wishfully.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    NFL fans in Florida have got to just wonder what they did wrong...
    Between JAX, Miami, Tampa...all three franchises are just terrible.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    That's what they get for living in a dick-shaped state (sorry, Hunti).

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Karma for running six professional football teams in one state (Dolphins, Bucs,Jags. Gators, Seminoles, 'canes)

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    hah - too true!

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Smith or Tebow - either way they're gutted. I feel sorry for them. The Beast gets traded because Philbin got antsy over the 'incident' and now it looks like they have no QB. Maybe the Wildcat gets a permanent look-see with Tebow as a Phin. He could be good one day - I mean Dan Marino wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer either. It even took Elway 10 or 11 years to stop throwing as many interceptions as TDs. I'd roll the dice with Tebow over Smith anytimne. Tebow has upside, Smith is just brutal.

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    In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    That's hilarious. I often think about that I would do the same thing with myself and tell 8 year old me, not to become a Cubs fan.

    Tebow Mania right beside Ozzie Guillen's and Zambrano's nut job contenst. (actually like Ozzie Guillen, but he says some crazy things). Ireland will no doubt overpay for Tebow. The trade for Tebow should be, I'll take Tebow and a 3rd rd pick, you get.... to get Tebow and his fans off your back.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    I might do the same, for all the good it would do. The temptation to skip school for a Cubs game was just too powerful.

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    In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Yeah, there was that. Went to Gordon Tech, walked up to Wrigley more than once.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    I had to take the El, watch Pete LaCock from the bleachers.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Went to Loyola myself but was the the only White Sox fan that I knew of in the north suburbs. For geographical reasons, I caught more Cubs games than Sox games. I might be dating myself but I remember two bucks got you into the cheap seats at Wrigley....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I remember lots of rum and cokes at Old Comiskey when Veeck owned the team. You could byo, so long as it was not in glass. Coleman with a spigot, 1.75l of bacardi, 2l coke, some ice cubes stolen from a hotel, and three buddies sitting with Harry Caray in the bleachers for a Sunday doubleheader.

    And if you got too hot or drunk, there was the cold shower right there in the center of the front aisle. To think we'd drive back home.

    Those were the days.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I LOVED the Bill Veeck White Sox (even though they sported those goofy uniforms for a few years). Good thing you didn't get lost in that neighborhood driving back home. One wrong turn...

  • Alex Smith is going to sack-up and resign with the Niners. Get over the bitter.

  • Today's QoTD:

    Floyd is there at 19, do you take him?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    My answer is yes, you dump Roy at the Metra station and say thank you Pantamime Horse, and you line up on opening day with Earl, Marshall and Floyd.

    OL in the 2nd if you go that way. D is just going to have to see how much Izzy has left in the tank.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    If Okoye ends up elsewhere, I may even go DT in the first. I think we may have some serious options in the first.
    I'm really, really amped about this draft.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Poe? I don't know anything about him, but he looks beastly. We can't afford to go WR in the 1st so I hope it's OL/DE, Konz or Mecilus.

    Just checked the Broncos roster - Tebow is th ONLY QB on the roster (with Quinn in KC). If they trade him and sign Manning they have no QBs behind Manning and nobody knows the playbook. That's insane.

  • Yep, that's who I was thinking. The only way we go DT in the first though is if Okoye leaves and we don't move Izzy back inside....and that would be a long-shot because then we're even thinner at DE.
    Meh, let's just get Mercilus and be done with it.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I say Yes to Floyd at 19 if available or 1 of the other top 5 guys if left out there. OL must be addressed even if with a veteran. Webb is fucking brutal and must be placed in a backup role. OL needs to be 2nd round unless inexplicably one of our DL targets is still on the board. Izzy is serviceable but so was AB and we tossed him to the curb. Now we have a chance to actually make an impact at the position. If we keep Okoye I feel better about drafting WR first.
    DE and DT are important parts in our D though so it's a tough call.

    FUCK YOU JERRY ANGELO. this is what happens when you ignore a position and draft poorly at the other one for almost 7 years.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Can't go through this season with only Izzy. Can't do it. Any DE we get in the third is going to be toast. I'd rather sign Plax than give away our first for a guy that might not work out at WR and will certainly take time to adjust to the NFL and a playbook.

  • Izzy was re-signed. Unless we take Mericiless, I can tell you that Woot Woot isn't going to replace him. Woot woot has shown little.

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    In reply to gpldan:

    Yes, unless Riley Reiff, the LT is there. Hard call if Jonathan Martin is the best LT on the Board.

  • If we give up our first round pick we can possibly get Mike Wallace correct? Floyd or Wallace, Floyd or Wallace?

    I would imagine that Wallace will be too expensive to Floyd or Alshon Jeffrey would be the logical choice. That is a lot of firepower and I think if the Bears use KD in more of a pass catching role we could see a 30-40 catch year from him.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    I like Wallace better, but it would be a big cap hit this year. Before the Marshall trade, I would've said yes. But now, I'd prefer a guy like Floyd or Hill, or even one of the 2nd round prospects.

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    In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Wallace too expensive. LT, DE bigger needs.

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    Manning to Denver basically means that the Bears won't land Kamerion Wimbley even if they want him. The Chiefs are going to land him to play him on the other side of Tamba Hali with Justin Houston their first rotation option. With lots of cap space and few weaknesses (other than the QB) surely they will land the best pass rusher out there for the 'Manning Autumn Hunting Spree'.

    The best option for Emery is going after Andre Carter. He's 32, but will get you 10+ sacks and plays the run at superior level. A 60%-40% rotation with Idonije would give great results from both of them. Carter is also a better RDE, which gives Peppers the chance of picking on the Right Tackle.

    Mihai (Romania)

  • In reply to Barb Mar:

    I like Andre Carter. Did decent for the Pats last year but didn't he end the season on the IR?

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    In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Yes. But he missed only 13 games in 11 years. He's a very smart player. A Bear kind of defender.

    New England will go back to their 3-4 so he is not going to re-sign.

  • In reply to Barb Mar:

    Wimbley met with the Titans today, and the Titans have just been jilted by Manning...

  • Manning set 3 franchises back 3-5 years. If Niners lose Smith they are gonna be hurting. Phins have no QB unless they SIGN Smith. Titans owner Bud Adams is doing damage control. If were Jake Locker, who Adams today refered to as his "Future franchise QB.", I'd walk into Adam's office and ask "Where's MY LIFETIME contract you damn hillbilly?!" Also, whatever are we gonna do without TeBLOWmania?

    God, it's great to be a Bears fan!

  • In reply to BAM46Blitz:

    I don't understand how/why any NFC team thought they had a shot at him. He and Eli clearly don't relish facing each other because they don't like putting Archie and Mom into that "Peyton vs. Eli" situation and an NFC squad would risk the even worse scenario of a pre-Super Bowl playoff confrontation.

  • In reply to BAM46Blitz:

    Odd, being the guys WITH the QB for a change. Very odd after 45+ years of wondering if the Bears would *ever* have a great QB. Not that Cutty qualifies... yet.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Isn't it nice NOT being in the QB madness for a change?

    I think my blood pressure has gone down these last few years...

  • Posted this up above, but it shouldn't be missed .

    Cutty to Marshall hookups - apologies for the music. Do mute.

    His YAC ability really must be unparalleled in the league. Catching the ball is just step one for him. I can't wait to unleash the boys.


    Sorry Irish.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    btw, what the fuck are the chargers going to do this year. they are gutted. AJ Smith is either a fucking idiot or a genius... in a make it or break it year that could very easily see him and norv shitcanned halfway through the season.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    AJ must be counting on his geniousity to make the most of all the compensatory picks he's getting.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:


    Getting back to form btw. Had 22 and 18 kill games last night. Bring your shit oooown!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That's it?

  • I'm not that good Erik. I'm a solid 10-14 kill with another 5-10 assist guy. I'm old and my reflexes are bad.

    Shady is a 20-25+ every game guy. Sorry to dissapoint maings. I do my best.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm messing with ya

  • btw, if you'd sell your prom-queen console and come play with the big boys I'll show you what the phrase 'wiley old veteran' means.

    Punk ass kids. Get the fuck off my lawn!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If only my mic would work on mw3 again. What up (with that) Doc?

  • In reply to Shady:

    Your mic doesn't work? My earphone doesn't work.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'll be around this week; farted around with Black Ops multiplayer last night. It's all deathmatch - wtf!

    After flirting with BF3 and Black Ops, I'm home to my dear, dear MW3.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    It's not all TDM, should have the game game modes PLUS zombies. Mmmmm zombieeeeesss

  • In reply to MB30SD:


    "The agent for free agent running back Mike Tolbert said Monday his client has signed a four-year contract with the Panthers. Joel Turner said Tolbert was so excited about joining Carolina that he left over $1 million on the table on an offer from San Diego."

    All we had to do was say, "Hey, Tolbert - Cutler, Marshall, Forte - come aboard". This dude isn't all about the money. I wonder how much he got.

    Man, I really really wanted this guy. 19TDs in two years! WTF!?

  • Money was a factor. He turned down a contract from the Steelers.

  • Yep, bummed. Would have been a huge hit in Chicago.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Who are the Panthers going to release? I'm guessing Stewart. You know that can't keep Williams, Stewart and Tolbert.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    That's what I'm guessing.

    Stewart is young, 24, but he's very Forte-ish (duel threat, lack of TD production - 4TDS last year, 2TDs the year b4)

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    None of them will be cut but Stewart is on the trade block if someone wants to overpay for him.

  • Good luck trading a guy that everyone knows is excess baggage. Not to mention if you trade for him, you're stuck with his contract.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Yep, too many other FA options out there for them to get anything more than a 7th round pick for him.. Carolina will NOT be able to trade him; I expect him to get released eventually. If Carolina's not completely pissed at him, it'll be sooner rather than later.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I just don't want him on the Lions or Packers. God knows they need a HEALTHY RB badly.

    Maybe the Browns make a move for him. Would be a savvy pick up by them. Since they have the #4 pick, they could create a fantastic duo with Trent Richardson and Stewart, then it almost wouldn't matter if McCoy is Qb.

  • I could see a scenario where it's a low round pick but that's all. He's been in the league for 4 years and is on the last year of his contract. Totally agree about landing with the Lions or Fudgies. I think the Lions are still holding out hope Best will recover from the concussions. They still have Leshoure. It remains to be seen if he can carry the load. Not sure what the Fudgies will end up with on their roster.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Bush is my man. Glad to see Manning won't be a Niner though.

  • don't think it's going to happen senor. I think they are going to get matty a deal. Just the reality of what emery stepped into... no way in hell he trades away our franchise his first year. And to be honest, barber is a more than serviceable short yardage guy. To your own point, he WAS the denver game until he brain farted.

    Personally, I'd much rather get a LT with the last of our FA cash. And then go on the cheap for LaRoid Landry.

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    In reply to MB30SD:

    Problem is the LT Free Agency situation has only damaged broken goods available. Maybe a smart contract. But it's a scrap heap.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    I know this. I would try McNiel over Omelet.... I mean Webb... any day of the week.

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    In reply to MB30SD:

    Don't hate that at all. But Mcniel is one of those injury risks.

  • Who would be stupid enough to trade for Tebow? Dolphins can't possibly think he's that much of an upgrade over Moore? MIA fans aren't dumb rednecks, so he won't sell tickets.

    Jax has the dumb redneck market down, but they just signed Henne to compete with Gabbert.

    Also, there's still Alex Smith, but perhaps he just swallows his pride and resigns with the 9ers. If I were him, my price to resign with the 9ers just went waaay up. He has all the leverage now. I would stay in MIA and make the 9ers suffer for a bit too.

  • He will sell tickets.

    Did you guys not see how many fans were at the Miami game... nothing but Tebow jerseys.

    Smith is trying to hard to a Dolphin and Dolphins are wanting to not lose out to another QB

  • I just don't see Tebow in MIA. Miami is quite liberal. I can't see Tebow's fundementalist views going over well with the city or the celebrity owners.

    Not to mention that he's not better than Moore.

    Dolphins can't be that stupid or desperate, can they? Sometimes, at the end of the night, you gotta resist the fat horny chick no matter how drunk and lonely you are...

  • The Owner is going to be desperate if he doesn't get Smith and I am almost positive when Tebow played them that game was sold out.

  • They also own the #9 overall pick. I would just draft Tannenhill and call it a day. It's a little high, and maybe they can trade down (with us, for instance, if Riley Rieff is targeted).

    But maybe they do get Tebow just to scrub off the stink of "nobody loves us".

    But that would be the stupidest FA move in a long time.

  • "Sometimes, at the end of the night, you gotta resist the fat horny chick no matter how drunk and lonely you are."

    40 years ago that statement was total blasphemy to me.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    hahahahaha... I never went hogging canada. I refused.

    Looking back there were a couple border-line sexy 'bigger' chicks that I totally should have shagged rotten.

    My brother was/is the consumate slick sales guy pig. He fucked anything that gave him the opty and was always proud of that fact. He's notched hundreds of chicks. Lucky he hasn't caught something serious.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I never started out with that in mind but I was very flexible. One thing in their favor, their whole life seemed to revolve around their mouth (talk a lot, eat a lot), so they were usually pretty adept in that area. Not saying I was proud of it but most of the guys that gave me shit went home to Rosie.

    Yeah, you should have nailed those ones you mentioned.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Canada "jumping on the grenade" taking one for the team!

  • Funny clip! I can laugh because I didn't marry the grenade (either time).

  • Yeah, that's a good one.

  • I'd trade for Tebow if given the chance to be the Bears GM for a day. I'd offer a 3rd rounder, convert him to TE and W-a-l-a, Presto! We'd have the most versatile utility backup QB/TE/RB in the NFL.

    I likery.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Then I'd trade Cambell for a 2nd and 3rd.

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    In reply to TracDaddy:

    I was thinking about the "Trade Cambell" idea over the weekend. With some teams about to be DESPERATE for a QB (Miami), would it be worth trading Cambell and say swapping 1st round picks if Riley Reiff were on the board at Miami's pick?

    Bad idea entirely, or just too rich? I love having a solid backup, but I thought Mckown did pretty well all things considered and with a proper offseason and preseason, probably will get better.


  • In reply to Big Mike:

    We finally get a solid backup .... and then we trade him? Thankfully emery didn't pay the guy to trade him. Hands up who thinks McCown could lead us forward if Cutty goes down week two ?

    I don't get why Denver would trade Tebow anyway. They literally have nobody else on the roster, he could receive valuable mentoring from Manning. I don't get it.

  • That's easy. His first round salary is too high to pair with Mannings.

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    In reply to TracDaddy:

    No because of the Tebow nut job fans...

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    In Chicago? That's funny.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    just say no to tebow trac. Just say no.

    I am honestly hoping that chicago's project player days are over. If you want a TE, draft/FA a fucking TE.

    Don't get him just because jesus was on his side for 4-6 games.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Wouldn't it be dreamy MB? ha ha.

    I do like Big Mikes Idee on Cambell though.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

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    In reply to TracDaddy:

    They are hiding everywhere. They'll come from downstate, Wisconsin, Indiana, Park Ridge who knows.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I'd take him as a fullback. He's been good in 3rd or 4th and short, iirc, and he could always just flip it to Forte or Marshall.

  • Denver has been in contact with three teams regarding a Tebow trade since before Peyton's final decision, according to Vic Lombardi of CBS Denver. Lombardi has been right so far.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    three teams...hmmm...JAX, MIA, Browns?

    How entertaining would it be if they have Tebow, Trent Richardson and Hill on offense?

    All very real possibilities.

  • That would be interesting. Hill would fee at home running only three routes.

    Mike Holmgren would hate his life.

  • The team you are describing would suck copious amounts of wang, mostly because Tebow sucks.

  • Hey, I was thinking, once the NFL takes some draft picks away from the Saints, they should raffle-off that pick. Maybe even on draft day - give the draft parties a little extra sauce.

    They could do something like the NBA, worse teams have better chances, but I'd advocate for everyone having an equal chance. How sweet would that be if we won extra 2nd or 1st next year?!

  • Robert Gallery to the Raiders Laron Landry to the Jets

  • fuck man!

  • G Gallery signed by Pats. He was on my leftover platter. Great minds think alike.

    S Laron Landry signed by Jets. He WASN'T on my leftovers platter. Jets getting him only confirms my stand on him (inj prone, lacks coverage skills, possible roid user...)

    per NFL Network.

  • Next move for the Broncos: give a 1st and a pirate's ransom for Wallace.

  • Campbell and Orton should have watied. They could be starting at 49ers or Miami.

  • I love Campbell as our #2, but how about this.

    If the Bears really like Riley Reiff, we trade our #19 and Campbell (he's only on a one year contract anyways) for Dolphin's #9 and pick up Reiff.

    OR maybe we can just trade Campbell for MIAs 2nd and 5th round pick.

    We can pick up SS Harrison Smith, CB Dennard, WR Alshon Jeffrey, etc with that extra pick to go with an Oline guy.

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    I just posted that theory as a question a few posts up. Had not gotten to this post yet. Swap 1st round picks, toss in Campbell. Or hell, why not just ask Ireland to trade Jake Long for Campbell straight up. He's on a losing streak, why not pile on :)

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Ha ha...if we get Long for Campbell straight up, I would pass out.

    Maybe we can give them Campbell and our 1st for Long.

    OK, this is crossing into Irish Crazy Scenerio territory now lol

    I just wonder if Reiff is a true LT. Many experts project him more as a RT, and we already have two of those.

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    Your right. But Irelland is F'n that team. Why not one for us. Here's a link to the analysis at CBS Sports.
    This quote stands out
    "Possessing NFL size (6-6, 300 pounds), sound technique and better athleticism than Bulaga, Reiff is viewed by scouts as a pro-ready tackle capable of helping immediately at either left or right tackle. "

    I think he's an LT.


  • In reply to Big Mike:

    He was a former TE, which means he's athletic.

    However, Reiff is much better at run blocking, and WalterFootball and some others have Anthony Adams one notch above.

    But Tackles are so hard to evaluate.

  • Edit. National Football post has Adams higher.

    Mayock and PFW have Reiff slightly higher than Adams.

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    I'm sure you meant Mike Adams. He's projected as strictly a right tackle.

  • Count me out. That's insane. Trading Forte makes us better across the board, but trading away a very solid backup QB that you've just signed is plain insane.

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    Wouldn't trade Forte. No way.

  • Cowboys announce release of OL Kyle Kosier; Bengals announce signing of S Reggie Nelson #freeagency

  • Cowboys just clearing the way for DeCastro on draft day.

    Anyone know if Kosier is any good? I go out of my way to avoid Cowboy games.

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    Pro Football focus has him ranked as the 6th best Free Agent Interior Lineman.

  • Maybe we can convert Omlette into a DE.

    Did you know he has freakishly log arms?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That made me laugh.

  • Current FAs available (sans Manning, though that's not official yet).

  • Players of interst.

    LB David Hawthorne. Weird he's still available. He's as productive as Briggs, only younger. Maybe the Seahawks are short changing him.

    LB Tulloch. Same as Hawthorne. Lions cleared cap this year for Avril and Tulloch, but maybe Tulloch wants too much.

    LB/DE Wimbley. We know this story.

    DE Mark Anderson. He's 29ish, but will Lovie want him back?

    LT McNeill. Huge injury gamble, but sometimes you just gotta roll the dice. Last year, Angelo didn't gamble on Gaither and now he looks like a ProBowler. Let's hope Emery is less reticent.

    LT Demetrius Bell. Bills not giving him a contract raises red flags. Inj risk who may want too much.

    S Atogwe. Odd again. Wasn't he the top FA S last year? Now, no one is touching him.

  • DE Mark Anderson. He's 29ish, but will Lovie want him back?

    Old Sauce quit on him. I don't see a kiss and make-up there

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    What about the MN LB Henderson? Plays in the Cover 2. Might come cheap.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Yes to Henderson. No to six footer Hawthorne.

  • wow, still a shiteload of talent available.

    I would LOVE to add lofton, but he'll be spendy and not a dire need... yet.

    Let's get us some OL and DBs. Oh right, with what money. Damn.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yup. I think we're done.

    DT Okoye should be our #1 priority right now, followed by CB Hadyn and IMO LT McNeill, all at resonable prices.

    Lofton, Tulloch and Hawthorne would be nice, but out of our price range I think.

    I don't know what's going on with Atogwe.

  • I would like to see Okoye get signed here shortly.

    As I am, most notably, not on the Flatbread Bandwagon.

  • if we did those last three I would give emery an A++ for FA.

    Shit, he'd get a gold star! It would be like the very best of angelo's 11 years wrapped into one FA period.

    (again, as you guys know... I don't give angelo credit for picking up the two most sought after FA those years. Everyfuckingone wanted them, he just got more money and traded off our history and brand.)

  • Two years ago Atogwe was.

    Bears are looking into LB's and Dwight Freeney's status.

  • Hey GP, check #4:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    From hot-enough-to-milf tag to that psycho chick getting her Zoloft re-upped at the Walgreens counter at 1am, in one fell swoop.

    Her eastern european pimp is waiting outside for her, in his 2002 Merc, in black with chrome spinners, something cheesy like this POS CL Class:

    It's like when the Top Gear guys went to Romania and walked down the street. Every car was a black merc with the vin tag stripped.

  • Raiders reached agreement with former 49ers CB Shawntae Spencer.

  • I'm kinda thinkin Harbaugh crapped the bed in SF. I think going after Manning sent some really bad signals to the players. I think the Ra Ra approach ain't gonna sell anymore. I think it was a really dumb move by him. It's not like the Niners were 6-10 under Alex Smith last year.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I agree that Smith may be doing everything humanly possible to get signed in Miami. And that if he has to sack up and show up, he and Jimmy boy are no longer golfing pals.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    If the money is the same, Smith would be nuts to go to Miami. The Forty-Whiners look to be good for quite a few years. Miami, who knows? Maybe Philbin turns into a great coach. Maybe not.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Not sure about that Trac. The players all know it's a cruel business. Not to mention, most of them would have been happy if Manning signed with them

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Just a gut take Canada. I do know that a lot of Alex's team mates really like him.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Yeah, ya never know. It doesn't take much to screw up the chemistry in a locker room.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Did Alex Smith really go from being the worst QB in the NFL to being Kyle Orton ? I'm not buying it. Harbaugh clearly revealed he's not happy to the point where he wanted a 36 year old who is one good hit away from being a vegetable.

  • Here ya go trivia:

    Last guy to wear Marshall's #15 (I'm assuming he will forgo 19) prior to Marshall...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Wow, ugghh Aromashadu?

    Marshall did confirm he's sporting #15 too, which is awesome. Looks nicer on the jersey I'm gonna buy here shortly.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Josh McCown, last year

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    Jim Miller and going back a bit further Mike Phipps.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Miller is correct.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Nope, it was Josh McCown

  • In reply to Nagurski:

    That doesn't count, he was brought in at the end of the season as a last ditch effort against Caleb Suckery.

  • #OregonSt DB Brandon Hardin ran mid-4.3s at pro day at 6'2" 219 lbs.; he's been on my radar as an interesting later round potential FS-type.

  • He's an interesting prospect. Glad you pointed him out.

    "Impression: Looks like a player who needs to transition to safety. I don't think he's a starter you can play in the deep half. However, if you're looking for a reserve in the box type safety who can add some talent to your special teams unit, Hardin is your guy."



  • How has Brandon Marshall fared against the Bears’ division opponents?

    Ryan G.
    San Antonio, Texas

    Brandon Marshall has averaged nearly 100 yards per outing against the Bears’ three division opponents. In two career games versus each team, he has compiled 19 receptions for 198 yards against the Lions, 13 catches for 201 yards versus the Packers and 14 receptions for 185 yards and one touchdown against the Vikings. He’s had a 10-reception, 100-yard game against all three clubs: 127 yards on 10 catches at Green Bay, 114 yards on 10 catches at Minnesota and 102 yards on 10 catches versus Detroit.

  • And the Lion's and Pack secondary is gonna continue to be horrendous in 2012.


  • Yeah, there are two sides to it. They will be gunning hard with the pass rush to get Cutler. Sure hope we find a LT someplace.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    With audibles in place and quick slants to The Beast, are we worried?

  • Nice stat. How'd he do vs Da Bears?

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    3rec 41yards 2010
    4rec 97yards 2007

  • Funny you don't hear Briggs bitching about his contract right now with LBs like Tulloch, Hawthorne and Lofton available in FA.

    Once they get signed and the coast is clear, expect his annual whining...

  • nfldraftupdate Regarding #Illinois DE Whitney Mercilus, it's hard to argue 16.0 sacks in one yr is luck or scheming. Has his faults but there's big upside.

  • and i think 9 or 10 forced fumbles. Right up LDL alley.

  • from the why the F$!%@$!%^K would you do this?

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    I don't get how people would assume that Manning puts Denver over the top.

    1. Even if he does, and it all somehow pans out, he's 36.

    2. The man has not only been out for a year, but he hasn't been throwing for a year. Brady was out that long, but it was his knee.

    3. Suppose he gets put on a ventilator in week one, the backup (assuming Tebow is traded) won't know the offense, and likely will be a shit QB/rookie.

    4. Manning won't know the offense either.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    They're so cheap, it's tempting, but would probably be a locker room morale bomb. It'd be great if Saturday went there to force the Packers to the draft or their backup, but even so, I think Rogers probably calls their protections and the center is not as valuable to them as it is for us. I wonder if that will change soon.

    do not know
    if you found the
    lets try this

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    that's it
    lock and bar your door
    and enjoy
    the best of
    Mat Taibbi

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    "Access denied" dude .....

  • looks like you won't
    be getting
    a crystal hand grenade
    oh well
    at least you got
    the downgrade

  • Bears should go get Tebow. The guy's no QB (not yet, maybe not ever) but he's a strong runner who can get across a goal line. He can throw the ball a little and has excellent presence under pressure. He would make a great pass option fullback if he would accept that role.

    But his main purpose would be to keep Marshall out of trouble, kinda like Joe Montana in this SNL clip (there's a short commercial first):

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    If it weren't for the Tebow circus, maybe.


    1) Clutts is an awesome FB.
    2) We still haven't released Barber and might get Bush.
    3) Deep draft at HBs, wouldn't give up anything more than a 5th.
    4) Tebow wants to play QB.

  • Joking, although Teb would be a good gimick FB.

    Watch the vid. The text was just an excuse to post the vid.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Ha ha, can't tell with Tebus.

    Sometimes people are arguing for Tebus, and I'm laughing, and then I say, "Oh, you're serious..."

  • My fault. Mixed message. I really was serious about Tebow being a good pass option FB. But I don't think the Bears should trade for him, unless we could get him for next to nothing, and he'd play whatever position we wanted, even if technically a QB. Then I'd cut McCown. I'd take Teb over McCown any day.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Okay I'll bite, Crunch.

    1. What do we give Denver for Tebow ?

    2. Why do we trade for Tebow - and hurt our draft - when we have Cutty, Campbell and McCown?

  • Can't answer that, Irish. Too many unknowns. Would he agree to play 3rd-QB/FB/TE? Can he catch? Block? What's his contract?

    And how serious is Green Bay about trading for him?

  • Yeremiah Bell was cut from Miami. He played safety

  • Judging by the Fin's fans reaction, he seems to be a good player.

    107tk - 1int last year.

    He's 34 though - and is he a SS or FS?

  • According to a lot of people this was a stupid move.

    Hopefully we give him a look

  • Funny how MIA released Bell AFTER the Pats and Jets signed safeties.

  • A lot of people are saying that was a shrewd business move by Miami.

    Will have to see if he is injured or any legal problems have happened.

  • This was strictly a financial move for the Dolphins. The Sun-Sentinel reports it will save $4.3 million in cap room. The Dolphins may try to re-sign Bell at a cheaper price, but they would have to outbid other suitors as an unrestricted free agent.

    The Bears might want to look at him.

  • Ixnay on the 34 year old safety.

    We need to be looking at DEs pronto - even if we draft Mercilus, he's only a rookie.

  • David Garrard is a dolphin

  • How does he throw?

    Heh, beat me to it. But Garrard is not a dolphin.

  • Florida Times-Union's Tania Ganguli reporting that David Garrard is a Miami Dolphin. No details yet.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    So, I guess Alex Smith re-signs with 9ers, and the Fins draft Tannenhill with #9 pick this year and have him learn behind Gerrad for a year.

  • No clue. Maybe Smith informed Ireland that he decided against Miami and Ireland quickly pulled the trigger on Gerrard to avoid looking like a loser again. I really have no idea.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Gerrard is not a legit starter. Insurance more than anything I think. Smith could plug a hole but he's a short term solution. The Dolphins will never stop looking for the next Marino until they find him. I can't envision being a Dolphin fan, poor bastards.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    The guys on Sirius think Ireland has jack shit to do with personnel decisions.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    What a horrible franchise they've become. Who's making their decisions then?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Fk 'em Trac. They've got their own curse. Good. No doubt we'll go 15-1 this year and guaranteed it's the Dolphins pissing on our parade.

  • Interesting article over at CHFF that kind of puts Manning and the Broncos in perspective:

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I'm actually a little surprised by that article. They put too much stock in statistics when considering Denver's D and not enough stock in actual tape.

    Our D got the same criticism last year when Cutler went down and we stopped moving the ball.

    Tebow was horrible 3/4 quarters every game last year. I'm talking going three and out 4-5 times in a half. The D was on the field the whole game, and with lousy field position. The only reason Denver stayed in as many games as they did was because the D kept them close with almost no offensive help.

    I know the numbers won't show it, but teams are scared of Denver's D this year if they have to compete with Peyton Manning on offense.

  • here you ngo erik 24-11-7

  • ProFootballTalk ‏ @ProFootballTalk
    Titans "close" to five-year agreement with Kamerion Wimbley

  • Are you f'ing kidding me?!

    "Tolbert got a four-year deal worth $10 million. That’s an average of $2.5 million per year. That’s classic fullback money. I just looked back at fullback salaries from 2011. Only six fullbacks averaged more per season than Tolbert will average in this deal. Top tailbacks make much more than that and some backups are well over $2.5 million."

    Are you telling me we couldn't dish out 2.5M?

    Wow. I can't believe that. I guarantee you Bush will cost more than that, and he's not nearly as effective as a red zone threat, pass catcher or sp teamer.

  • Yeah, we couldn't find 2.5M for this "FB?

  • bottom line, they doubled down on forte... I'm sure that came from the top. Bringing in tolbert would have added even more instability to an already touchy situation.

    Sucks, but is what it is.... hope forte blows it up next year maings.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm not sure that they doubled down on Forte. What's happening is they're doubling down on Michael Bush. One thing about FA I'm seeing a lot of this off-season, you can only go after so many players. I'm sure somebody in the Bears office called up Tolbert's agent, but the big guns (Emery, Lovie, Tice) were spending their attention elsewhere.

    Plus, they've probably got an firm offer on the table for Bush. You can't put two of those out at the same time without risking that both players accept and you have two guys in one spot.

    And if you make the offer contingent "this offer expires in 7 days *or* if Michael Bush signs first" then you send a pretty clear message to somebody that they're your second choice. Not the best way to attract big talent.

  • To bring a little balance to the force ... Tolbert put those numbers up on a team that had Rivers, Floyd, V-Jack and Antonio Gates. His numbers disappear next year.

    It was nice to hear Marshall suggest that his numbers would also be down given that the ball will be spread around more on the Bears. He seemed okay with that.

  • Saw this somewhere...

    "Why is Lovie high on JMarcus Webb?
    In 30 games:
    19 penalties, (8 holding)
    24.5 sacks allowed.


  • Not sure bro. Nobody would be happier than me if Webb suddenly became a force. I think Cutty knows better than anyone else if he's worth his salt. We shall see come draft time. I'm hoping that the OT from Stanford falls to us.

  • Dog. Shit.

  • Coming to a city near you?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Miami fan's reaction to Garrard

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Did you see what they did to Jeff Ireland's Wiki entry?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Here's a more complete article (more Thompson/McCarthy quotes) on the same subject, Trac:

  • Hey Jeffe, here's some fodder for a new thread.

    "Mike Tice understands the value of a #1 WR". Look it up!.

  • Check this out boys. This is the best article I've seen on the Marshall deal from a player reaction standpoint. This is the kinda stuff I'd like Jeff to matriculate into. Enough Webb like threads already. Hee hee.

  • Damn it! So we're not getting Landy...but who are we gettingt o improve the D. Our pass D was laughable last year!

  • Have you ever thought about adding a 6 to your handle Sac? Sorry, I'm in one of "those" moods today.

  • Madden 13 to feature 4v4 multiplayer.

    Could be some epic DBB battles.

    Blogfather plays Cutler / Urlacher
    Artoo plays Forte (of course) and Peanut
    MB plays Marshall and Briggs

    Phrozen as Rodgers and BJ Raji (only guy as fat as he is)
    Trac as Jennings and Woodson
    MBHP as Findlay and Matthews

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm in!

    But we can't forget shady... shady as all of the kickers.


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ok, so now that we have down...

    ...who do I talk to about my contract? I'd like more money, or I want to be traded.

    ...I gots my eye on a nice new (uncrashed) lambo.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Gee thanks!

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Actually, you don't have a PS3, I was just trying to remember everyone that had one.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm in suckas!

    Picked one up a few weeks back.. still have yet to jump on the MW/BF status.

    But when Madden comes, you better believe it!

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    I like.

  • btw, I can't tell if these are lame or super cool:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Normally if you can't tell, it lame.

  • and these people now get what they deserve:

  • dabearsblog BREAKING NEWS: Caleb Hanie remains unsigned. Rumored interest from several Chicagoland area Olive Gardens.

    wow, that was cold.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    well, on the other hand....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I thought that was an Onion article when I read it.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    old people make me giggle

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I LOL'd

  • Ok, ok... something football, something bears:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    watch the vid... and then listen to the lach audio on the mid-right

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    speaking of Lach:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ok, now I'm pissed. There was absolutely no reason for the Bears to win that last game of the season. I was very concerned that we'd not only get bumped down in the draft, but given all the injuries we suffered last year, I didn't want to see something like this happen. Yup, very concerned indeed.


    anyone else concerned?

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    whoops, sorry johnny. I'll walk off my 5 yards now.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i'm am concerned as all hell that he won't be able to condition properly since he'll be rehabbing and will have a sub par season/get hurt. Getting a knee injury in the last meaningless game was possible the worst thing that could have happened at that point.....and it fucking happened.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    at least he can do this:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    he couldn't even jog with Mickey onto the field, Mickey tried to coax him but he almost limped out there. that's not fucking good mang.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    So glad he went out there and helped win that game, so we could drop from 13 to 19 in the draft.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    i never advocate for us to lose but what are the fucking odds that it happens in the last couple of minutes in the last game of the toilet bowl that was the last 6 games of the season after Knox ran his route like a fucking spaz and Jay was jay and refused to give up the TD and then Hanie totally ass fucked the season by being outperformed by TEBOW, PALMER, WHOEVER THE FUCK WAS THE QB FOR THE CHIEFS and the motherfucking seahawks.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Urlacher said on "Waddle and Silvy" that he couldn't even play golf right now.

    Nice "morale" victory, Lovie.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Maybe Emery should look to draft his replacement this year.

  • Well... I don't know the market on the ol' DBB - but ever so rarely does an album come out that I attempt to push on everyone.

    Yes, its hip hop. Not that Lil Wayne junk... it's a thing of beauty.

    Gift of Gab - The Next Logical Progression (stream entire album on NPR) - Here

    Or, for those who need a taste test before jumping fully in -


    So. Good.

    If you like good music, check check check it.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    smoooove. i dig it. thanks willie.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    shhhh, check this shit out!

  • Manning's contract is 5 years / 96M.

    All is known is next's year payout/cap-hit is $18M and there are 'significant' out clauses for injury.

  • Shady,

    Your mic doesn't work? I can't hear anything in my bluetooth. It is a month old. Fucking lame.

  • jesus, now all we need is rabbits tv to go out and the three of you would be:

  • Yeah, lame. It works for BF3 and other games, but something about MW3 doesn't allow mw to hear any1 with a mic. They can hear me tho hehehe.

  • Haha, my projection of Manning contract (90M) was accurate.

    The Saints must be shitting bricks. You know Brees is going to be asking for 20M a year now, and unlike the desperate Broncos, they don't have 40M in cap lying around.

    It's gonna be funny when the Saints can't re-sign Brees, then draft a QB in the 1st/2nd round.

    Oh, wait, they don't have a 1st this year, and their 2nd and 1st might get taken away by Goodell anyways (along with suspending their HC and players)?


  • New Thread please.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    break the blog and he'll put up a new one. alerted by the gnome faction.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    preferably a thread without a picture of J'Marcus Webb or Urlacher laying on the ground with his leg bent back and MCL/PCL torn (not that the Bears would admit it).

    The Bears had better get another run stopping yet effective pass rusher. Urlacher on a gimp leg at mid 30's and shitty safeties has an Angelo type result written all over it. Spend the money, bring in the talent to make the run and get on with it. Don't get skimpy now when we have a tiny window left for superbowl.

  • lovie is a moron.

    When he shoulod have had the team balls out to beat the packers in '10 he didn't... but we HAD to beat the vikings? Lovie you are a fucking retard.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB..he resembles that remark:

  • New Thread Plz

    Can even entitle it "The $96M Dollar Man"

  • Stephen Tulloch to Lions

  • what kind of scratch do they have left? that it? they done?

  • He was already a Lion. He just wanted to get paid.

  • If Child Support is permanently gimped, I'm down with picking up Burfict as a URFA, just to have a pimp on the squad now that we lost VIP on the Swole.

  • That and picking up Ocho from Patty waivers

  • Kill Whitey

  • I am also surprised this guy is still available. I always thought he would make a fierce DE...

    "Linebacker Manny Lawson — The 22nd pick in the 2006 draft, Lawson has disappointed as an NFL pass rusher with 16 sacks through six seasons. Lawson is a freak athlete at 6-foot-5, 240 with low-4.4 speed and a 40-inch vertical, however, and he’s wicked smart (43 Wonderlic score). Lawson can set the edge against the run and has always been effective in coverage. With experience in both 3-4 and 4-3 schemes, Lawson should be generating more interest than he has so far."

  • So boys and girls had a great dream last night.....2013 SuperBowl...

    NFC Champions Chicago Bears
    AFC Champions Denver Donkey's

    What: XLVII

    Where: Superdome

    a little twist of fate:
    Ex Donkey's Cutty & The Beast
    Ex Superbowl Champion MVP Mangly who btw won that against whom?

    just for fun: 1985 Reunion Capt: Jimmy Mac helps the boys see the highlights of Bourbon Street!

    Priceless: We bring Back the SB Trophy..yeah I won't call it by it's name because of it's name..and btw FudgePeckers on this blog..that's for you FUCK OFF!

    Frosting on the cake?: SB Dual MVP's Cutty & Beast

    I woke up with a "WOODY"!!!!! cal me tripod!


    Cutler and Marshall

  • NEW THREAD!!!!!!!!!!

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