Say You're Phil Emery...

Say You're Phil Emery...

Yesterday was Franchise Tag Day in the NFL. (Apparently that's now a day on the NFL calendar.) It joins the ranks of the start of free agency, the announcement of the coming year's schedule and the NFL Draft. Yesterday we saw the free agency market come into clarity. Vincent Jackson, Mario Williams, Marques Colston and Cortland Finnegan will be available. Dwayne Bowe, Stevie Johnson, Cliff Avril and apparently a half dozen kickers will not.

What this spurned on Twitter was a lengthy (seven hour) debate about what the appropriate approach for Phil Emery should be for the Chicago Bears 2012 offseason. Here were a few proposals:

  1. Sign Vincent Jackson at ANY cost. Use first round draft pick on the edge of the defensive line and look for good receivers during 2-7 rounds.
  2. Sign Mario Williams at ANY cost. Use first round draft pick at wide receiver and perhaps look at the lower tiers of free agency to strength the outside as well.
  3. Spend the $30 million of cap space on both players and retain Matt Forte for 2012 on the franchise tag. Draft whomever you want in the first round.

Note: All of these ideas include attaining a backup quarterback capable of winning games.
Now the question. What's your approach? How would you run the next two months if you were Phil Emery and charged with building the 2012 Chicago Bears?

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  • First to say, I'm glad Angelo is not Phil Emery.

  • I see how you did that doc.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    look at the awesome whore in the ad above this comments section. epic whoriness, love.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Was she on Baywatch? lol

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    And she's only 3.5 miles away!

  • In reply to jrnymn17:

    I know, that's so close to where I am.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    hahahaha

  • option 4:

    Sign Mario Williams, draft OL mauler in first round, draft OL in second round, franchise Forte, get Meachem and another 2nd tier receiver, draft CB or LB in 3rd round, sign journeyman vet (Pisa) to play with Roach as 4th linebacker, obtain slutty cheerleading squad, draft big body receiver in round 4 (literally anyone is better than Sanzenbacher, Hester, and Knox out for year effectively), trade last 3 rounds to another team for next year 3rd round pick, etc

    You can fill in all of our holes in one fucking year, you just can't have an all madden type player at every position.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    clevah giiiiirl

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    silence of the lambs?

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    I'll let shady do the honors here... this is his.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaFT6RVz5w4

    Awesomeeee.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Waffle my favorite scenario is:

    Obtain Slutty Cheerleader Squad!!!!!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Slutty cheerleaders would immediately improve the play of Jennings, Bowman, Cookie and KD...i'm sure of it.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    hahahaha don´t have any problem with your plan. and i strongly support the Slutty cheerleaders part

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    No problem with that if it worked out that, especially the cheerleaders. Black/Asian only please.

  • Irish, you are one of a kind.

    A sober Irish ex patriot living in Thailand with twins that is addicted to black and asian cheerleaders.

    You couldn't write that in a Bruckheimer script.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    What idiot would trade a 3rd rounder for some team's 5th 6th and 7th round picks? There's huge value in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, where teams can still find starters. Later rounds are for primarily developmental players and guys competing for the last roster spot. (Unless you're Jerry Angelo, in which case you draft your developmental players as soon as possible, you know, just in case some other team has machinations on Garrett Wolfe.)

    I like the early moves, though. It hasn't been talked about as much, but if they can find a starting-caliber LT at 19, then that's definitely a value pick. Anything else would probably be overkill, as the interior linemen all played respectably and Garza was just given an extension. At that point, you also have to assume that they have brought at least one veteran WR on board, because they simply can't fill that position solely with late round talent. (Again, unless you're Jerry Angelo, in which case we've all seen how well that's worked out.) But a veteran WR and a solid 2nd rounder - someone like Wisconsin's Nick Toon, perhaps - would probably fill that need.

  • By the way, judging by that picture, I think we just found Waldo.

  • Doc...What doing the Motorboat?

  • Use FA for needs at WR, DLine, draft for best available talent in the first 3 rounds, then draft value. Some of you guys are gonna want to fill out your Christmas wish list through FA but I look to see Emery take a very conservative approach. I don't think the Bears will sign either VJax or Mario.

  • If I were Emery, I'd make a huge play for Mario, get plax on the cheap, pick up a backup QB in free agency (who, I have no idea), draft Urlacher's replacement or a stud wideout in round 1. If Forte is franchised, get a good back in the draft, maybe by trading a third to move up a smidge in the second round.

    Of course, if we can get Marshall, that should be priority number 1 after signing Mario.

  • didn't mean to ignore your request last night Doc, me and my boys went on a 5 game streak in domination. We actually use strategy so it's fun to hear guys complain about the fact that we are all 18 kills 25 deaths and still destroy teams where guys get 30 and 40 kills.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    ahhhhh... so that's why you never play with us rag tags... you gots the strateegeries.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    No worries, mang. I'd just drag your team down anyway. I think I got killed 5 times in 15 seconds at one point yesterday. I'd like to not suck so bad, but where to find the time to practice?

  • i've been playing too much at night instead of sleeping. my eyes look like "two pissholes in the snow". - Irish

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    :o)

  • I thought #3 was impossible? Jeff, if doing #3 is possible WHILE keeping all of our FAs AND forte (with the franchise tag), NB, Erik, B4, and I need to know how.

    Cause if that's possible, that's the no-brainer of the century. ‘Splain please.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    When you comin' home, holmes? All these Central-Eastern Time Zoners are in dreamland while I'm living my nightmare on MW3.

  • PP901 with kick or range/rapid fire and steady aim pro should be your best friend. The sight is perfect and you don't need to aim on every shot. Learn it mainge.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    I like that load-out if you can live without red dot (and if you're running steady-aim with a SMG, you shouldn't be using ADS most of the time anyway). I like it.
    I use the UMP now most of the time b/c I started out with it but will start leveling up either the PP901 or MP-7 soon.

    BTW, never use any LMG besides the M60. I wouldn't waste any time on the others. It has an effective damage 50% higher than any of the other LMGs.

  • Here's a good story about our worst nightmare from the past.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4675356/the-infamous-hit-from-the-refs-perspective

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Markbreit did the right thing by the rules. By justice, however, he would have left that p.o.s Packers motherfucker in the game so the Bears could have (hopefully literally) killed him.

  • Ok, Jeff... I'm Phil Emery.

    (too easy?)

  • In reply to jrnymn17:

    I'm surprised it took so long for someone to follow the Blogfather's instructions.

  • In reply to jrnymn17:

    +1 dude

  • Why don't we trade or cut Briggs. #54, Roach, Cutler, Peppers, Tillman, Forte, Bennett, Gould, Podlesh, Barber, Carimi, Garza, Hester, Spaeth, Spencer, Wright and Williams x 3. That will clear up a bunch of cap space and then we can go after some good players.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    with that group you could get 49 draft picks in compensation, 25 Million in Cash and could trade for the Tennessee Titans cheerleading squad.....

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    sorry, meant 56 draft picks

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Canada, we need MORE good players, not DIFFERENT good players.

    :-)

  • Jerry would most certainly blow the top pick and draft DONTARI FUCKING POE, settle for a second rate wideout like manningham with a high profile (so he could cover his ass and claim he brought in a superstar on paper) and resign roy williams.

  • It seems like every year we have this debate. The last couple of years it was "use the 1st, 2nd and top FA signing on the O-line." We addressed that need to some extent (see Williams and Bear Jew in the first rounds), but fell well short of what this blog was asking for. Despite that, we have been contenders in 2010 and 2011... and like every NFL team we have strengths and weaknesses.
    My thoughts:
    1) We will not sign Mario Williams. If for no other reason than other teams with more cap space will over pay for an elite pass rusher in 2012 when the draft is short at the position. We have Peppers (and his contract). Won't happen. It would be awesome though.

    2) We will not sign V-Jack. Nor should we. His bust potential is through the roof! With a very talented QB in Rivers throwing his way he's never broken 80 catches. He's really not a top 5 WR, although he will command $10-12/year (maybe more) and will get it from someone because there is no better option on the market. Buyer beware. Not a cold weather guy, disappears in big games, off field issues, etc. Not worth it.

    3) We won't draft Floyd at pick 19, because he won't be there. We could trade up, but we need to build depth in the draft so mid-round picks in the 1st and 2nd and 2 in the 3rd is huge. We need the picks.

    If I'm PE, this is what I would do: 1) Although contradictory to point #3, I would very seriously consider trading the 19th overall to the Steel city for Wallace. He's 25, hes 6 foot/200 lb (decent size), he's a 'playmaker' as PE likes to say. He can be had for less than V-jack since hes a restricted FA, but Pittsburg is strapped for cash and won't be able to match an offer sheet along the lines of 7-8 mil/year (i.e the Stevie Johnson deal). Since I don't think the top end WR in the draft will be there at pick 19, losing our 1st rounder for a 25 year old sure thing sounds good. Plus, hes accustom to the type of 'stretch the field, run first' offense we will probably be playing this year.

    2) I would sign (G) Carl Nicks from the aint's. He's a mauler. We need to continue to improve the O-line and he would be a great addition. We could then consider moving Bear Jew to LT. Even if don't make a move at LT, this would provide the type of depth, flexibility, and talent necessary to have a top-end O-line (finally).

    Those moves plus Forte will eat a big chunk of the cap. Please remember we have our own FA and draft picks to sign, plus Cutler is up for an extension that we will need to set money aside for.

    Draft with 2nd or either 3rd a big body WR, and depth on D (CB, S, LB, DE, whatever is there).

    That's a WR corps of Wallace, Bennett, Hester, Williams (who will be retained at a reasonable price to provide depth because of Knox), Knox, and Draft pick. Pretty solid bunch. And we've addressed our two biggest needs (O-line and #1 WR) at a more reasonable cost than V-jack.

  • In reply to Jimwoww:

    There will still be money left to bring in Plax. Although I see this as trading one old WR project (roy williams) for another. All things being equal, I'd prefer to keep the guy who's been with Cutty for 1 full season. I think their impact will be simialr.

  • In reply to Jimwoww:

    i'd take plax over williams in a heartbeat.

    have you forgotten williams' dropped game-tying TD turned interception in the game vs the Chiefs?

    no way Plax drops that ball. none.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    and just in case you HAVE forgotten, let me refresh your memory:

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/09000d5d824bd5dc/Chiefs-defense-INT

    fucker didn't even get hit. ball was right in his gat danged hands. shit, i'm pissed off all over again. fuck you, roy.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    You just *had* to do that, eh?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    i didn't want to. but he was saying he'd rather have roy than plax. shit, i'd rather we bring back keith jennings at his advanced age than run roy back out on the field.

  • In reply to Jimwoww:

    I don't know if Plax is a project. Only six receivers caught more TDs(8) last year and he only had 45 catches to do it in. Sanchez sucks. I'd keep Roy though, a few big bodies, a few small fast ones. If we only have one tall receiver and then he goes down ....

  • In reply to Jimwoww:

    This is a plan that I could get behind, plus there is an added bonus: Signing Carl Nicks would justify cutting Chris Williams, thereby adding a bit more cap space.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    cutting chris williams!?!?!?! What in thee hell?!

    Cut edwin or someone else. Are you crazy NB? He was our best inside olinmen before he had a freak accident.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Agree. Yeah, he busted at tackle, but was looking like a reasonably good guard.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Agreed.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Insanity to cut a first round pick who's not done us wrong. If we cut anyone it's got to be the big guy that can't pass protect and who's got Cutty's blind side. The 7th rounder afterthought project that didn't work out.

  • You might not start him but you save very little money and reduce depth at an already thin position by cutting him.

    Hell no.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Wait a second, how does signing the most expensive offensive lineman in free agency and cutting a mid-first round pick save cap space? I'm not saying your wrong but I'd like to see the math behind that.

  • In reply to Jimwoww:

    good thoughts.

  • In reply to Jimwoww:

    But going back to some of the comments on the previous thread... I wonder if there will actually be enough money to sign both Wallace and Nicks. $28 million has gone up a bit with some of the cuts we've made, but it has gone down by close to $8 million due to Forte's franchise tag (and I'm beginning to seriously doubt that he will play for less than that this year in any contract scenario).

    That leaves in the range of $20 million. We can make one big FA signing, but we need probably $5 million to sign our draft class and $5 million to sign our FAs. If Wallace is at $8 million a year, we're probably doing fine in terms of the cap, but we don't have room for anyone else.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    CAP MATH

    so about $28 mil + $3 mil (so far) savings from omlette and Adams. Call it 30 to play it safe. $–7.7 for Forte (tag amt), $–7 for Wallace (plus we don't pay a 1st round pick) for a deal about equal to Stevie Johnson's. That leaves $15.3 mil.

    The highest paid Guard in the league is Jahri Evans with 7/year 56.7 mil contract (if even per year = $8.1 mil). So figure it takes $8.5 mil/year to get Nicks.

    That leaves $7.2 mil in cap space. That leaves plenty of flexibility to sign draft picks in rounds 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 6 and our FA (most likely Davis (TE) and Graham (CB)).

  • In reply to Jimwoww:

    That's not factoring in cuts and the potential loss of cap casualities such as Barber, Edwin Williams, Roy Williams, etc.

  • In reply to Jimwoww:

    It leaves us without the essential DE too, and leaves us without a big receiver. Same shit as last year, but we'd have a good tackle. Not good enough.

  • In reply to Jimwoww:

    BTW, Da Site indicated fairly early yesterday that Forte was franchised, so no conjecture required there. It's a done deal apparently.

    I am in the camp that does NOT favor going after Vincent Jackson, for the exact reasons you cite here.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Nothing to say we can't trade him and save $8M though.

  • In reply to Jimwoww:

    Unfortunately I agree with 1-3 - Emery might be cautious of big money spends when he can fix things across the board e.g. Plax instead of V-Jack, drafting Mercilus vs signing Mario.

    But giving up a first for Wallace? I'd give up a second for Marshall, maybe two thirds. But a first for a six-footer is a lot. Yes, he's younger than most of the guys available, but when we could sign Meachem for no picks lost ...

    I just don't see us going for Vincent - the guy's 29 and we need some value for money.

    Emery most likely picks up some value receiver and then drafts one. We do need a DE to take the heat off Pep though, and that's a first rounder. Do we trust Daryl Drake to mold Stephen Hill if go in that direction? Long term, Hill is worth more than a 29 yr old Jackson - as long as he adapts to the NFL

  • Hey GP. Ahhhh, what a little nerd waterboarding will do huh?

    http://news.yahoo.com/lulzsec-leader-turns-fellow-hacktivists-feds-160134846--abc-news.html

  • 20K views? Who are you lurkers!? And here I thought I was muttering cap numbers to myself. Well, I'll repost, because any future Bears plans must keep these elements in mind...

    Maybe Doc and Artoo can work out the math for us.

  • That is a ton of hits to only have 40 comments... I'd think.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    If gnome code is counting hits, I suppose any number is possible.

  • One would think that number of page views would get the attention of the ChicagoNow tech staff when we start complaining but nooooooooo.

  • We're not in Cap Heaven (?)

    By most projections, the Bears have between $25-$30 mil in the bank. We'll call it $28 mil for simplicity's sake.

    However, they have to look long term before they go all in like the Redskins, Eagles and Vikings did in years prior.

    Forte is going to cost at least $7.7 Mil/yr. If one goes by the Lynch/Foster deals, he'll cost about $9 mil. Let's just call it an even $8 mil/yr.

    That leaves the Bears with $20 mil. Not bad.

    Next, the new CBA structured draft classes cost about $5 mil, give or take. We're right in the middle, but own an extra 3rd. Also, unlike other teams, the Bears rarely cut draft picks (we do have a 7th rounder starting at LT after all). Let's just call it $6 mil.

    OK. That leaves the Bears with $14 mil.

    Now comes the conjecture with FAs.

    Bears FAs who are highly likely to be resigned.

    DT Okoye. Adams was let go to make room for him. He's going to cost about $3 mil

    HB Bell showed enough to stay on. He's going to cost roughly $1 mil.

    QB McCown. Like Bell, showed competency when called upon. Approx. cost $1 mil.

    TE Davis. Lovie and Tice talked him up. There's no one else out there. Estimated cost. $1 mil.

    S Steltz. Same boat as McCown and Bell. Also, a good SP teamer which the Bears prize, esp if Graham is let go. Price. Approx. 1.5 mil.

    CB Tim Jennings. The Bears are thin at CB, so they resign him. Approx cost. $1.5 mil.

    FAs I expect the Bears to let walk. QB Hanie, CB Graham, TE Spaeth, WR Williams, S Merriweather, DE Izzy, CB Bowman.

    After all that, according to my math challenged brain, the Bears would be down to $5 mil in cap space, naturally depending on how they structure the deals.

    Keep in mind that in the near future, Urlacher and Cutler will get new contracts, and of course, the annual Briggs bitching. Also, it's a almost a certainty that another veteran back-up QB will be signed (besides McCown), but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

    Am I missing something here? I feel like there's some extra cash for the Bears that I'm not accounting for...However, if my figures and predictions are accurate, $5 mil doesn't seem like enough to go after a big name anything.

    (BTW, here's the link to what I based the FA estimates on)

    We're not in Cap Heaven (?)

    By most estimates, the Bears have between $25-$30 mil in the bank. We'll call it $28 mil for simplicity's sake.

    However, they have to look long term before they go all in like the Redskins, Eagles and Vikings did in years prior.

    Forte is going to cost at least $7.7. If one goes by the Lynch/Foster deals, he'll cost about $9 mil. Let's just call it an even $8 mil/yr.

    That leaves the Bears with $20 mil. Not bad.

    Next, the new CBA structured draft classes cost about $5 mil give or take. We're right in the middle, but own an extra 3rd. Also, unlike other teams, the Bears rarely cut draft picks (we do have a 7th rounder starting at LT after all). Let's just call it $6 mil.

    OK. That leaves the Bears with $14 mil.

    Now comes the conjecture with FAs.

    Bears FAs who arehighly likely to be resigned.

    DT Okoye. Adams was let go to make room for him. He's going to cost about $3 mil

    HB Bell showed enough to stay on. He's going to cost roughly $1 mil.

    QB McCown. Like Bell, showed competency when called upon. Approx. cost $1 mil.

    TE Davis. Lovie and Tice talked him up. There's no one else out there. Estimated cost. $1 mil.

    S Steltz. Same boat as McCown and Bell. Also, a good SP teamer which the Bears prize, esp if Graham is let go. Price. Approx. 1.5 mil.

    CB Tim Jennings. The Bears are thin at CB, so they resign him. Approx cost. $1.5 mil.

    FAs I expect the Bears to let walk. QB Hanie, CB Graham, TE Spaeth, WR Williams, S Merriweather, DE Izzy, CB Bowman.

    After all that, according to my math challenged brain, the Bears would be down to $5 mil in cap space, naturally depending on how they structure the deals.

    Keep in mind that in the near future, Urlacher and Cutler will get new contracts, and of course, the annual Briggs bitching.

    Am I missing something here? I feel like there's some extra cash for the Bears that I'm not accounting for...However, if my figures and predictions are accurate, $5 mil doesn't seem like enough to go after a big name anything.

    (BTW, here's the link to what I based the FA estimates on)


    Bears Cap and FA

  • Hence myself and Artoo bringing up Forte's numbers. It gives us 8M to play with. Plax is the best value anything on offer.

  • Who is going to be your running back without Forte!?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Stephen Hill! He's fast and tall.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    We convert Briggs.

    That Wilson dude and Doug Martin look good, but not as sexy as Richardson.

  • Wow, the only guy I'd let go there is Hanie. Thanks for doing the math though! We're not as comfy as we thought we were. Mario's a pipe dream unless we move Forte.

  • Shit, I copied it twice. Forgive me my brethren...I'm a bit in hurry scurrying out the door on my way to Big Bear.

    K. Gotta go feel the cool air of nature. Hopefully when I get back we'll have an extra 60mil somewhere.

  • $6 M for the draft class... no way. Here's last years cap numbers:
    Carimi (1st round): 1.28M
    Piea (2nd round): 0.61M
    Conte (3rd round): 0.51 M
    Enderle (5th Round): 0.42 M
    Thomas (6th Round): 0.40 M
    Total - 3.22 M cap #'s

    This year we have a 4th and extra 3rd, so add an extra million (esentially 2 Conte contracts) = between 4–4.5 million. If we trade our first for Wallace that saves ~1.5 M in cap space. So his approx ~8M contract is effectively 6.5 M for 2012.

    Also, if we sign Nicks kiss Spencer and Edwin Williams good-bye (>3.5 M cap number). Briggs can suck it, he's under contract and has no leverage.

    If you're intrested in 2011 cap numbers see: www.sportscity.com/NFL/Chicago-Bears-Salaries

  • In reply to Jimwoww:

    You're still only leaving ~$3.5 million in cap space for all of the free agent signings. Its hard to drop Izzy (~$1.5 million) until we know we've got a DE in Round 2. Plus we need at least one vet backup at QB (~$1 million). All of a sudden I think we get squeezed. Plus we're setting ourselves up for a painful cut in 2013.

    I just don't see us having the space to make two pickups that are over $8 million.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    You are probably right. Guess I would rather take Nicks and a 1st round WR. Maybe supplement with a guy like Plax.

    Dude helped keep Brees clean on pace to a record setting year. I think if we keep Cutler upright, he has the talent to win w/o spending $10+ M on V-jack. Seems like a bad idea.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    We still can't drop Izzy, we need rotation, and the man is awesome on ST.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I guess the real question becomes "will Peppers and Urlacher take restructuring / pay cuts for the chance at a championship?"

    Something will need to give there, methinks, if we want Forte and Cutler. Those two guys are the core skill players of the offense, and were I in Emery's shoes I'd be working on keeping them over any other "skill" positions on offense.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    If they get more cash up front out of it in the process, I would think so.
    That's how the Steelers are handling their cap problems.

  • In reply to Jimwoww:

    You're forgetting that we're drafting 10 spots earlier in every round, (so they would cost more) and that extra 3rd is even earlier since it belonged to the Panthers. Not to mention that every year, the contract goes up, even if just a little, for the draftees.

    So that 4-4.5 M would easily be closer to 5.5-6M.

    Regardless, we'll have to set aside at least 5M for the draft.

  • Bring in Vincent Jackson!!!! I'd like to see the offense with a legit receiver and Forte. Cutler would thrive.

  • I was here 15,000 times yesterday looking for a non-football comment. To me this off-season stuff is like waiting in line while the lottery addict ahead of me buys a stack of custom powerball tickets.

    Has this been posted (sorry, too busy to search)?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMV6KH0xyyA

    Jimmy Johnson, Buddy Ryan, and Mike Ditka blasting each other over a bounty controversy in 1989.

    Thanks to Albert Breer (http://twitter.com/#!/AlbertBreer) for the clip.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    How cool would it be to hear the coaches nowadays disrespect each other like that?

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    Agreed. Why can't people just be free to speak their minds anymore?

  • Doc, I found out today that South Africans actually call it maths!!

    I never knew that. Boom!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Same in Britain & Ireland dude, after all, if I may, the word is mathematics and not mathematic.
    {Piss off Irish!}
    Sorry.

    Actually, in England it would be more like Mafs.

  • ha

  • Mario Williams, Randy Moss, John Carlson, backup QB in free agency

    Trade up in the 1st to get OT David Martin, or take BPA & target Stephen Hill in the 2nd. Get a CB somewhere around the 3rd

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    I'll cough up a nut if Hill isn't gone in the first. Fastest, biggest receiver?

  • It's great TV. Beats the fuck out of the Tebow circle jerk.

    Re: my comment above - No offense, draft geeks. 20,000 page views on tag day means I'm in the minority.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    ^^^ was supposed to be a reply to Ender, btw.

    Whoa, Rams said to want 3 first round picks for the #2.

    http://twitter.com/#!/richeisen/status/177125884434714625

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    The irony would be if the Browns offer two first round picks to trade up, and the Rams say no. That could leave the Rams without a dance partner, they take Blackmon, the Vikings take Khalil (or vice versa), and the Browns gets RGIII for nothing.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    They'd draft RGIII and trade him, surely.

  • Please don't call NewBear, Shirley.

  • You like movies about gladiators?

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    When I was young I wanted to have sex with Barbara Eden, Elizabeth Montgomery and Dawn Wells. Some things just aren't meant to be.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Barbara Eden.....oh man. Better in person too. Man we are from the same mold!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Damn, Canada! All the best ones *especially* Wells. Although I'd have to include Yvonne Craig

  • Wallace? Really, the Bears need another fast smurf out on the field... wtf? And even if you want the midget, a first? Marshall went to the fins for 2 thirds after 2 Pro Bowl seasons, why would you pay a first?

    1. Im Emery, I try to find a way to reunite Cutler with Marshall. The fins gave 2 3s for him, I would offer the same maybe plus a 7. I cant get that deal off then I target VJax next week. Worst case I sign Plax or Colston so that I am not totally hamstrung in the first round. I heard Colston's knees are worse off than anyone has let on.

    2. Mario probably isn't worth much of a look for this D, isn't he a 3-4 LB essentially? He will end up in Big D. And how well would he transfer into an every down DE with rare blitzes. Now that Avril is tagged I am looking to the draft for and edge 4-3 DE.

    3. I would try to sign a value CB and safety in FA, I don't know what's out there for value players but you Tim Jennings type.

    Now going in I have addressed most immediate needs and in the first 2 rounds I can take the best value at DE,OL,CB,LB,WR
    without having to have one of those positions to field a team.

  • In reply to Urlacher FTW:

    Williams was a DE in a 4-3 his first three years and was great. That's why everyone is slobbering all over him.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    yah thats true but he also hasn't played a full season the last 2 seasons and is fresh off a torn pec that sat him 11 games. I would be a little concerned about the Tommie Harris effect.

  • In reply to Urlacher FTW:

    I'm not advocating we sign him but a torn pec isn't the same as a bum wheel.

  • In reply to Urlacher FTW:

    Steelers put a 1st round tender on Wallace. Would have to offer a first round and Steelers have oppertunity to match the offer sheet.

    the smurf (6 foot, smurf?) pulled down better numbers than V-jack in a run first offense with other primary targets (Brown). Plus hes 25.

    Isn't marshall bipolar and on the wrong side of 28? Besides, when Peyton goes to Miami, there is no way they will trade him.

  • In reply to Jimwoww:

    Yes at WR in the NFL 6' is a smurf. Our freaking RB is 6'2" and is taller than any wideout we have (after Roy is cut), I want that to change. If Cutler was going to shine with short receivers with blazing speed, we would have top ten offensive stats already, outside of being a better natural receiver, Wallace gives us nothing we don't already have in Hester and Knox.

  • In reply to Urlacher FTW:

    I'm not going and listing all of the fantastic 6' receivers in the league again.
    I love Hester and Knox, personally, as both are role players on offense but fantastic options on special teams...comparing them to Wallace as receivers is flat out nuts.

  • In reply to Jimwoww:

    Marshall has Borderline Personality Disorder and it's under control:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjOtxU1zQAM

  • In reply to Jimwoww:

    damn with you big time on the receiver thing, jim

  • In reply to Urlacher FTW:

    Good points FTW. Although I disagree with the FA safety. Steltz, Cunty, Pringles, and VIP would seem to give us depth and competition. Or did our backups look good the last few games because the rest of our team was falling apart?

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    I dont think Pringles can play a whole season, hes like a less talented and even more oft injured Brownie. I mean I'd love to develop the guy but he can't stay on the damn field, eventually you have to find a guy who isn't made of glass. VIP looked completely clueless on every single play I saw him involved in, I would not resign him. So that leaves Conty who now has me worried with his specific injury, and Steltz... the great white hope of NFL backfields... hell to the no. We need safeties, that can stay healthy, and know how to play the cover two, and aren't white.

  • In reply to Urlacher FTW:

    Brownie was the most frustrating Bear ever for me. If *only* the guy did not have a glass jaw

    Although I'll subscribe to your racism, FTW

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I meant "I'll NOT subscribe". Teach me to post when I've been drinking

  • In reply to Urlacher FTW:

    thank you sir.

    Don't even get me fucking started on our safeties... it's my new sticking point now that the cancer got shitcanned.

  • In reply to Urlacher FTW:

    Marshal drops the ball too often. We already have that with Williams. drop the damn ball*

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Roddy White dropped it more than anyone in the league this year.

  • In reply to Urlacher FTW:

    MArio was better in the 4-3 and he doesn't like 3-4 apparently. I would like to see Marshall even if it cost us two thirds.

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    Alright, i wouldn't do as any of the scenarios you posted.
    I'd do THIS:

    1 - Draft Floyd in the first round, and spend all the remaining rounds on Defense.
    2 - Sign Ben Grubbs
    3 - Sign Scott Wells
    4 - Resign: Tim Jennings, Craig Steltz, Kellen Davis, Amobi Okoye.

  • 1) We might not have the money for two O-line signings of that caliber.
    2) As others have pointed out, we are thinnest at tackle. We'd probably be tieing too much money up on the middle of the line with those FA pickups. Plus, our running game isn't really built around the inside routes, so we wouldn't really be putting money into our strengths.
    3) One advantage to your plan is we would probably cut Chris Williams and Chris Spencer to make room, and both of those guys take up some cap space.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Tice will sort out the inside running game - kind of why we should be drafting a center. I'd like to see scenario #4562 where we trade down and trade around to get Konz and Hill. We'd need to sign Mario in that case, or get Anderson back on the cheap.

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    In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I Think the bears can survive with the Tackles we have.
    Cutler's got some legs under him to keep him out of danger.

    What the bears can't handle at all and Cutler does particularly bad is handle inside pressure. Those Interceptions he threw in his first year were a clear indictment of that.
    I like OLines built from the inside out.
    Elite Tackles are one a year in the draft. And we haven't gotten any of them in the past few.

    I think even our Widereceiver play would improve if cutler had no inside pressure.

  • Paulo, congratulations on your country's economy... and all the hot women.

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    In reply to MB30SD:

    Hahhaa our economy is just riding the waves. Money is being sapped from all sources. It's disgusting. (Not particularly proud brazilian)

    The hot women are true though. Where i live, is a 2:1 ratio.
    I ain't complaining bout that.

  • hey Corm... that's about the same ratio as you guys have up in wisc, right?

    2 blazing hot chicks with great little asses to ever guy... right? right??

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If by hot chicks you mean barn animals.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's slimmer picking for me now that I'm 40, but I live in a college town with a big tourist industry and two large regional hospitals.. Where I've lived the last 17 years there are three colleges within 10 blocks of where I live, and all of them have much higher female populations. The main majors are physical education, physical therapy, and nursing. Most of the downtown bars do usually have more women then guys. Nothing like two to one though, that's paradise. You and Doc can stick your comments up your ass!

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Hahahahahaha!

    Sorry corm, couldn't resist. Wow, sounds nice. I didn't know that was possible in wisc. Well done.

  • MB, I got some good news for you regarding the zombie apocalypse. There have been 514 leap years since Cesar created it in 45 B.C. Without those extra days every four years, today would be July 28,2013. The Mayan calendar didn't account for leap years, so the world should have ended 7 months ago. Hope that cheered you up.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Anyone else watch The Walking Dead on AMC?

  • In reply to Shady:

    I didn't watch it, just saw a friend post it on facebook.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Yup. Their leader is a pussy and makes the worst decisions ever - a similar thing happened in the first apocalyptic series, The survivors (1975) written by Terry Nation, creator of the Daleks and Doctor Who producer. Still available on YT. A man-made plague kills 99.9% of the population and the only people left all speak BBC English bar one Welsh drunk

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    sweet; too bad the Federal Reserve does not understand your math; they still think they can have all the money in the world by then.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Damn it!

    I was ready. I spent thousands on supplies, weapons, and prep.

    Anyone interested in a WWII bunker in the middle of Nevada?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Way ahead of you bud, already got one decked out with a bunch of re-tooled Daleks and robot ninjas. Just waiting for the shit to hit the fan. Any day now.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Save the bunker for later in life MB. That will be beach front property in 30 years. Didn't you see Al Gore's movie Earth in the Lurch?

  • Tweet:

    Brian Boyer
    Leaving work a little early to start the BBQ for a @tribapps team dinner and tequila tasting party. #supertuesday

    http://twitter.com/#!/brianboyer/status/177156319919345668

    Drunk today, hungover tomorrow. The Trib Apps team will fix Da Blog on Thursday, though, for sure.

  • Hanie gone. Punishment for New Orleans should be Hanie.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    haha

  • In reply to Shady:

    I say we let the Saints get to 7 and 3, then we suspend Breese for the rest of the season, take away their top offensive skills player in the next game, and make them play with Hanie at QB until they're mathematically eliminated from the playoffs.

    That would be pure torture... oh wait.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Yeah, why did you have to go there? damn it

    Brees makes that team. If they lost Brees, the saints would look a lot like Indy did without Manning last year.

    On the WR front, I'm more than a little concerned about our options next year. One guy's name I haven't heard much of is Pierre Garcon. This kid puts up decent numbers - even without a real QB. Imagine what he could do with Cutler. Find another tall WR in the later rounds of the draft. Maybe sign a Hines Ward for experience, but I say leave the early rounds for building the trenches.

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    FREE AGENCY
    I sign WR's Meachem, Reggie Wayne, and Eddie Royal in Free Agency.

    I sign QB David Garrard.

    I sign RB BenJarvus Green-Ellis (Did you know he's never fumbled?)

    With whatever money is left, I try to catch a bargain on either DE Mark Anderson or LB David Hawthorne.

    I resign Jennings, Okoye, Bell, Davis, McKown, and if Corey Grahem doesn't get a starting postion offered to him, I gladly bring him back.

    DRAFT
    At #19, If Floyd is available, I take him. He becomes Reggie Wayne's prodigy. If not, I take best available player from these positions, DE, CB, LB, LT.

    If I don't get Floyd, then I target a few WR's that have potential to be #1's in a few years, Big guys who like to go up and get a football. I take one in the 2nd, and then at least 1 more before the 5th.

  • In reply to Jesse Lynn:

    So you're bringing 5 new WRs to training camp?

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    In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Yeah, I might. If the draft fell in a way that made me feel like the talent was there.
    But, realistically, If I singed all those WR's and then got Floyd. I'd probably be done.
    If, however, I had a really high grade on a guy, I'll use McNutt as an example, and then he slid to a point where I couldn't believe he was still on the board... I'd take him.

    And then I'd just use Royal for special teams, and barely use Hester on Offense at all. Just for obvious speed plays.

    Or, I'd just cut Royal in camp if it seemed like he wasn't worth it. He costs so little that I'm not sure I'd let him really affect my draft plans...

  • In reply to Jesse Lynn:

    INone of those scenarios gives us Mr. Big body. If they do draft a WR int he 1st it had better be Hill. He's on a platter. Ithink we'll sign Royal no matter what happens due to the Cutty factor..

  • Irish... Hill in the first!?!??! The fucking guy's never run a fucking out maing!!! what in thee...

    the only WR I would even entertain in the 1st is floyd, and I am NOT about WRs in the 1st.. just ask the raidahs or the 9ers.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I don't want a WR in the first at all, but if they're going to do it he'd better look like one of the Johnson's.

  • Irish, you were the man against drafting WR in round 1... Hill would be nice but too expensive in that place, there is alot of good WR till 3 round. Whitney Mercilus have a monster day today before scouts. Kuechly or even Poe have chance. pick talent with first 3 rounds, and let Emery close the gap with FA.

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    Guess what Irish? This may blow your mind... Michael Floyd has a bigger body than Stephen Hill...

    It's true, crazy right. I mean Hill is 2.54 Centimeters taller, but Floyd outweighs him by 5-10 pounds. Why is that 2.54 centimeters so much more important to you? Every comment you talk about Hill versus Floyd as if Hill has a "big body" and Floyd has a "little body". They're both fucking big.

    Seriously though... Hill could be good, he could be really good. Someday. But we have about a two year window to try to obtain a Super Bowl... and all Hill can realistically do at the NFL level is go routes.

    If him and Floyd are both there at #19, I take the one with a history of barely ever dropping passes, and I don't take the one that has barely caught any.

  • In reply to Jesse Lynn:

    Sound arguments. When in doubt, take the guy that CATCHES THE BALL.

  • In reply to Jesse Lynn:

    Which is, by the way, the reason we keep Earl.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    which i am 100% ok with. he just shouldn't be our #1.

  • In reply to Jesse Lynn:

    I should say tall, not big. I mean tall. If Hill is taller and faster but more risky ... so be it. But no, I hope we draft another position like Mercilus or trade down for Konz. A LB would be sweet .

    Hill didn't drop anything at Pro day for what it's worth.

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    Yeah, his pro-day was impressive. I read the recap late last night when I got home from work. Caught all 12 passes with no drops, and ran sloppy, but better than expected routes. Also, sounded humble and ready to work in the interviews.

    I like Hill. I just don't think a "Project WR" makes sense for us. We have a short window to win it all with this team, and a serious need at the WR position. Honestly though, if we didn't need a WR, weren't close to Super Bowl team, and Floyd didn't exist, I'd be excited about Hill's potential too.

    Every time me and you have talked about this, it's been on the merits of Floyd -vs- Hill. I think Floyd is the safest WR I've seen in the draft in a long time. I can't imagine him not being a solid NFL WR (barring injury). I can also see him being a Larry Fitzgerald type of superstar NFL WR.

    But I get why you like Hill better. He's an inch taller, jumps three inches higher, and he's faster. I get that.

    However, there's been a lot of super athletic kids that never learn to run routes. Or find open spaces when a play breaks down. Or understand coverages. Or mentally prepare at all.

    I don't think we can afford to have a 1st round draft pick be a colossal bust right now, and I think that potential is higher with Hill. Also, just to temper your expectations, I don't see a first year GM in one of the harshest NFL markets (media wise) taking that risk either.

  • In reply to Jesse Lynn:

    If we had about $60M in cap space that could all get done.

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    I'm saying those are the things I'd try to do. If we can't get Green Ellis for example, we save some money and sign a cheaper back. But those are the guys I'd target.

  • In reply to Jesse Lynn:

    Wouldn't say no to Ellis.

  • Played golf today. Man, that game is a bitch.

    Manning soon to be a FA. He will affect where Matt Flynn will go.

    He will also make Brandon Marshall expendable if he goes to Miami. Why? We all know he wants Reggie Wayne to go with him right? Garcon recently turned down a nice contract with the Colts. Don't be surprised he doesn't want to go with Manning too.

    I said it awhile back and I will say it now. He would be best to go to the 49ers. All they need is a QB and some WR. Guess what? Manning will bring two guys that he makes look good every year he was healthy. Thus, if he goes the 49ers.... I'm feeling good about my picks for FA.

  • I suppose if the whole package is cheap enough, it makes sense. And S.F. could get them all to the bowl with that D, so one would think a bunch of older vets would take the lower pay for the shot at the championship

  • I don't see how Miami could afford Manning and Marshall. Rememebr Marshall will cost the Fins $9M this year, he'd only cost us $6M

  • If you want Manning, you have to take his buddies with him.

  • Dion Caputi ‏ @nfldraftupdate
    @AlbertBreer reports both the #Seahawks and #Jets have had discussions about the possibility of adding Peyton Manning. Surely many have.

    Not shocking

    Dion Caputi ‏ @nfldraftupdate
    #GaTech WR Stephen Hill cemented a 1st round grade & projection with his pro day workout; could go as high as No. 19 to #Bears, in my mind.

    Very shocking. I want to know what he did his pro day. If Emery takes him... He better be damn sure he is worth it. To me he is the ultimate risk/ reward guy in the draft.

  • And if Emery takes him, Artoo, let's hope its the reward thing

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Fk it. If we're going to throw a pick away, why not a tall fast receiver? The fastest in the draft no less. How bad can he be? He's got good hands I hear, and runs all the vertical routes well. Stephen Hill please.

  • yep. WR that's never run an out.... at 19. fuck me, not thanks.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Do we want him running 10 yd outs? He's our downtown and crossing route guy. Let Bennett and Sanzy run the outs. He'll learn the other stuff. He's big, fast and got hands.

    Emery has drafted (or been involved with drafting) three receivers in the first round. David Terrell, Johnathon Baldwin and Roddy White.

  • If you can't run more than a couple of routes, you make it very, very easy for the D coordinator to take you out of the game.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Especially if we don't have a real #1 receiver to draw coverage away.

  • oh man. why'd you have to mention terrell? that really doesn't help the argument.

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    He caught 12 passes with no drops...

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8276b162/article/georgia-tech-wr-hill-continues-to-impress-at-pro-day

  • ME LIKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Adam Rank
    NFL.com
    Pair Williams with Peppers? Scary thought for Bears' foes
    If you'll allow me the chance to offer a possibility, here's one which could be interesting: the Chicago Bears. Can you imagine a defensive line with Williams and Julius Peppers? That would be one way to slow down division rivals Aaron Rodgers and Matthew Stafford. Is this just a fantasy or could it become reality?

    The Bears figure to be bidders in free agency. The team has been linked to Vincent Jackson, but free agent receivers can be tricky. It would be more prudent to address the receiver issue in the draft (Michael Floyd?).

    I'd put the money into Williams, who instantly improves the defense and makes the cornerbacks much more effective, filling another need. And let's be honest, as a football fan, I would love to see a defensive line with bookends Williams and Peppers. It would be too much fun to watch. And for the Bears, it would make a lot of sense, too.

  • "How would you run the next two months if you were Phil Emery and charged with building the 2012 Chicago Bears?"

    Well that's the thing - will he build the 2012 Bears, or the Bears as a franchise moving forward?

    If he goes all-in as per this thread, we sign V-Jack, Mario and keep Forte ... we don't/can't sign anyone else - that's $33M right there. How would we sign our draft picks?

    V-Jack is overpriced compared to the fact that we could get Plax and Colston or Plax and Meachem etc. We need more than one receiver.

    Mario will be expensive but invaluable. It's either/or we cannot get both - if one assumes they're keeping Forte. From the noises Emery has made he wants to build through the draft so he's not likely to sign both even if he traded Forte.

    Another alternative is value. We draft Mercilus or Hill, and then sign either a top receiver or Mario. Personally, I'd be happier with signing Mario and drafting Hill (if they were going first round receiver). Yes, Hill is a risk, but fast big bodies like that are rare. Any and all scenarios can also have Plax for about $3M.

    Trading Forte gives us options .... if not leaving us with a bit of a gap at RB.

  • Just to be silly, because Irish will probably love this...

    How about we trade Cutler to Miami and use the extra cap space to make a $20+ million dollar play for Peyton Manning.

    Then, we take our first rounder and the first rounder we get from Miami for Cutler and trade into the top 10 and pick up our franchise LT.

    Then we trade Forte somewhere for yet another first rounder near the bottom of the draft and pick up our quarterback of the future to be trained by Manning for 2-3 years before he retires or pulls a Brett Favre. Who needs a running back when you've got Peyton Manning at QB right?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    The rookie QB of the future, incidentally, would be Brock Osweiler who at 6'7" will also be great on the basketball team Irish wants our offensive guys to play for in the off-season.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    hee hee

    they have net ball on the rock NB.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I fucking quit the Bears if they sign Manning. I hate the guy. I actually like Cutler better than Manning - he's a pussy, and an immobile pussy at that. I want to see Wooten make it two in a row and snap his neck.

  • If you don't quit the Bears over Roy Williams, Cedric Benson, or Enis the Penis, you have no business saying you'd quit over a HOF quarterback, even if he's a whiny pussy. At least he has produced.
    The other guys were just whiny pussies.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    groan.

  • Open spots by position:

    QB: 1-2 (McCown is a maybe)
    RB: 0-1 (Barber could be cut)
    WR: 1-4 (Williams, Sanz and Knox are all maybes)
    TE: 0 (we have 3 plus a fullback, we could even cut one)
    OT: 1 (LL or CW are the only backups for GC and JW)
    G/C: 0 (We would cut EW, CS or CW if we made a signing)

    DT: 1-2 (we've got 3 solid now, Okoye is a FA and we carried 5 total last year)
    DE: 1-3 (Pepp and Wootton have spots, the other 3 are Izzy and two benchwarmers)
    LB: 1-3 (We have 5 total, and two are the infamous white guys)
    CB: 1-4 (Peanut is the only solid guy, we have 4 other roster spots, a couple likely filled by signing our own FAs)
    S: 1-4 (Wright and Conte under contract, Merriweather possible cap cut, 6 spots to fill)

    ST: 0 (kickers and long snapper taken care of).

    That means 8-20+ spots on the team could be swapped out this off-season. Some of those will be filled by resigning our own guys (Steltz, Graham, K Davis), thereby reducing the number of new faces. Some will be filled in the draft (likely at least one DB, at least one WR, at least one lineman, etc.). Some will be filled in FA.

    But when you look at the cap, you need to factor in that we're going to paying all of these people out of that cap. You can't just give all the money to 3 players.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    "Long snapper taken Care of..."
    Just curious, do we keep Mannely or the dude we picked up late from KC?

  • Suppose ... just supposin' ... .Forte gets traded ....
    We'd get 2x2nd rounders right? Maybe a 1st?

    Doug Martin or David Wilson should be there in the second?

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82755cba/article/rb-stock-report-wilson-looks-like-no-2-back-after-combine

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1081507-david-wilson-combine-explosive-rbs-big-day-will-shoot-him-up-draft-boards

  • To my post earlier in the thread. This kinda supports my theory that Emery will not enter into a bidding war for Mario and VJax.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/39114/chatwrap-phil-emerys-free-agency-style

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Yup. He'll play it cool. Make some smart buys and draft well.

    What about Marvin McNutt? 6'4 215, nice hands. 3rd/4th rounder?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzFm2FweXHE

  • WTF? This site has him at 6'2.

    http://www.steelersdepot.com/2012/03/terrible-podcast-follow-up-marvin-mcnutt/

    This one at 6'3.

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=70933&draftyear=2012&genpos=WR

    Wiki says he's 6'4.

    Marvin McNutt has excellent size (6'2 1/2, 212 pounds), strength, hands and route-running to be a possession receiver in the NFL, but didn't show much in terms of elusiveness or the speed to turn short and intermediate passes into big plays. He is a savvy route-runner, however, who was consistently open despite aggressive coverage from defensive backs. - Rob Rang, NFLDraftScout.com

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    I like McNutt a lot. If we don't go WR in the first round, I'd like to see him in Navy/Orange... He's 6'3"

    http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/Marvin-McNutt?id=2532909

  • Biltong is out for delivery today. Ooooh yeaaaaah.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    BooYah!

    I've been absolutely crushing the red hartabees sticks maing. LIke 1-2 big ones a day.

    What's a red hartabees you ask? Let's just say I'm helping this poor guy in the vid get some paypack:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2oymHHyV1M

    (you're welcome okie)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    OW!

    Can we sign that thing with the horns to play weakside linebacker and trade Briggs?

    I felt a little guilty for chuckling at the "unnnnnhhhhh" - that mountain biker was fucked up.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    yeah, he got woooooorked. Did you see his helmet at the end? Damn gina!

    They are among the fastest buck in Africa. They weigh around 300LBS and can get up to 30-40 MPH. Take that in the dome and you're going to need some advil.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    After it nailed him, it turned back and looked like a boxer taunting his opponent:
    "Stay down, bitch."

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'd seen that before. That would hurt. I've been up close to deer, moose, elk, bighorn sheep and black bears on my bike. None have ever been aggressive but it always makes me nervous. I came around a corner once and a cow moose and baby were right there. About 10 feet away. I looked at them, they looked at me (the entire sequence lasted about 10 seconds) and then mama snorted and stamped her foot. I was outta there instantly.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm going to have to shop around - I'm afraid. I like the basic flavor, but it was really mild, still too gummy-textured for me. I like a much more spicy jerky and like it to be snappier. I do like the fact that it was recognizable as steak, not random pieces of mechanically separated meat, but could have been a better cut of beef. I might try making my own here and see if I can do better.

  • We need VJax! I would not be comfortable with Floyd or Hill to step in and be the answer. Nor would I be confident with Colston (micro fracture surgery on BOTH knees), Mechem (product of the offense), or Wayne (getting older). All played in pass heavy offenses with pretty good qb's. Wallace is nice but giving up a 1st rounder would hurt and he's not the big body receiver we need.

    Vincent Jackson - 6 ft 3 in. 230lb BEAST

  • In reply to JerseyBear:

    Colston is a non-starter for me. We don't need Greg Oden running post routes.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Had to go there, didn't you rabbit?

  • Ha - forgot you were a Blazers guy...
    hahahahahahah...sorry.

  • In reply to JerseyBear:

    Isn't V-Jack 6'5? That's the only reason I'd want him.

    How about some value buys if we keep away from V-Jack and Mario?

    OLB - Erin Henderson (26)

    http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/03/07/erin-henderson-value-waiting/

    DE - Jason Jones (25)

    http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/03/06/jason-jones-finding-the-right-fit/

  • Typo, my mistake. He is 6'5....We haven't had a real qb in the last 20+ years, now that we do he needs a legit receiver to throw to or he's being wasted.

  • fb_avatar
    In reply to JerseyBear:

    What makes you think Meachem is a product of the offense?

    I'm curious, because I haven't heard him described that way. Actually, I've read him described to the contrary, that he was a first round pick that never lived up to his potential...

    I like him, I don't think he's the best WR in the class, I think that's VJax... But, I think Meachem may be the best value for the contract he'll get.

  • In reply to Jesse Lynn:

    I just think those receivers are interchangeable with Brees spreading it out to all of them. They are looking at Moss and don't seem worried to loss either of the two. That has to say something about them. I consider Mechem more of a complimentary guy. We need a go to guy where the D knows your throwing it to him and they can't do anything about and I think that is VJax....

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    In reply to JerseyBear:

    I think the trouble with VJax, is that if we sign him, and don't add complimentary WR's, he's going to be double covered all day. Which will be great for Forte, and really boost whoever is on the other side, but we're basically paying 12-14million dollars for a WR who will only actually catch 60 passes...

    I think Meachem, with his speed, can do that same job, for about 6-7million dollars, and still leave room left in the cap to fill other holes, like WR2, who can help to make the D pay for doubling Meach downfield...

    Make no mistake, what you're describing sounds great, but the guy your describing is Calvin Johnson, not Vincent Jackson. VJax gets entirely taken out of some games by the defense.

  • In reply to Jesse Lynn:

    If VJax is 70 catches, 1100 yards and 11 TD's (which is in the ballpark from last year) that would be acceptable, no? I'm not as concerned with the # of catches as I'm with # of TD's. I think with him, Earl could step up and be a pretty good #2. In my mind he would open up the field for other receivers and Forte would be even better then we have seen.
    I may be over valuing him but I think you're undervaluing him as well.

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    In reply to JerseyBear:

    Maybe I haven't been clear... I love VJax, I think he's the best FA WR available, and I think he would make the biggest impact.

    I just don't think we can afford him. We have a star QB, a star RB, and to then add a star WR through FA sounds awesome, but it fucks our cap situation a bit too much for me to realistically approve of.

    Basically, I think VJax is great, but not elite. He isn't Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, or even Roddy White... and I think he's about to be paid like those guys... if not more.

  • In reply to Jesse Lynn:

    Would it totally fuck up the cap (i honestly don't know but thought we could handle it)?
    Another thing to think about - Cutler wants a big body receiver and VJax fits that mold. He tends to be a bit moody and I would think they want to keep him happy.

  • fb_avatar
    In reply to JerseyBear:

    We could sign VJax, so "totally fuck up the cap" is a bit much. But if we did, we would basically be done in Free Agency, assuming we signed most of our own Free Agents, like Jennings, Okoye, Kellen Davis, Corey Grahm,,,

    Personally, I rather us add a few different pieces in Free Agency this year, like, 2 WR, and a DE, or a backup QB, or a LB, or maybe a backup RB if we aren't thrilled with Marion Barber.

    And then we have the ability to fill a few holes, and if anybody is a bust, the way Brandon Manumaleana was, we can cut them and move on. Instead of having a good player like VJax tying up a ton of cap room moving forward because we overpaid for him.

    Cutler has said he wants a big body and would probably be thrilled with VJax. But there are tall WRs available in the draft this year. So, if we grab a couple decent sized vets (Meach is 6'2", 210lbs, so he is a big size upgrade over Knox, Hester, and Sanzenbacker) and we draft a tall guy, I'm sure he'll be thrilled with that too.

  • Jeff,

    What on earth makes you think Kyle Orton and Mark Sanchez would we willing to come sit behind Jay Cutler? The Mark Sanchezs of the NFL don't go to teams with established starting QBs when they get released, they go to the Washingtons and Miamis where they compete for the starting gig with the Jason Campbells, Rex Grossmans, and the Mcowns/Mcnowns

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    I tend to agree.

    Also, reports state that he's nailing the hottest chick on the planet, so he's got that going for him...

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Correct. Although after a year of two of losing those competitions some of them prefer to settle in as a backup QB for better career longevity. If I'm McCown, I'd love a job offer from the Bears to be the #2 or #3 for the next 3-4 years.

  • Did any of you see sarah fucking palin interviewed on tv? Oh my god, listening to that fucking buffoon say nothing but hackneyed vagaries and zero else is so much worse than fingernails on a chalkboard.

    Why is that embarrassment to American politics (and that's saying a whole damn lot) even given air time for fuck sake? Jesus lady, please disappear forever. Why hasn't a moose, bear, or pack of geese gored her to death yet... whhyyyyyyyyyyy?!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Why do you think she's always packing?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I wish she'd pack the fuck up and go away.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    On behalf of the Eastern seaboard....no thanks!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    It keeps her busy, and it's hard to screw-up. Occasionally she puts the suitcase in the clothes, but that's ok. What's a few streched sweaters? That time they let her answer the phones, she cost McCain the White House.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Well played, Crunch.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Did you get to vote for Paul yesterday, Mr. VirginiaLiberal. Virginia's primary is open, right?

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    The Fifth would owe you one. Might take back that scarlett L. You'd get to be Mr. VirginiaLibertarianNaziWackjob.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    That doesn't fit on a bumper sticker, unless you reduce it down to VLNW.

    And no, I'm not a "resident" of Virginia in legal terms.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Hey now Crunch. You can call me a wack job or nut job, but don't call me a Nazi.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Did I call Rand Paul voters Nazi's? I guess I did. Sorry.

    Wait, are you from Virginia? I only called Paul voters from Virginia Nazi's.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    RON Paul.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Her Hole

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H05cz-rNWNw&feature=related

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    She's basically a talking bumper sticker. Lots of catchy little phrases and nothing else. She appeals to a certain segment of society and some portion of the media is more than happy to feed that segment. She will never run for office again. She loves being famous and has no responsibilities.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    indeed canada. she's just SO bad. At least bachman was just crazy.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    because the animals are not packing:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf14VhDYvt0

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    FIGHT BACK!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNGGbozilko&feature=related

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    What's scarier is that dudes like Ronald Reagan and little Bush got into the hot seat, and scarier still is that Bush got the rules changed so he could press the button without anyone else's say-so.

  • Biggs reporting Lovie Smith dined with Stephen Hill

  • For real? The dude could be our CJ man.

  • Say Im Phil Emery:

    First things first I remove those ropes holding my glasses on my head via a plastic loop. Its not 1991.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    hee hee

  • In reply to Dmband:

    When you watch as much tape as him..You lose a lot of glasses.

    Thus, why he hasn't gotten rid of them since the 90's lol

  • In reply to Dmband:

    You're Phil Emery.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I'm phil emery's wild sense of disgust

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Looking at that picture I was thinking a prerequisite for the Bears GM job was to have absolutely no lips. JA and now Emery, coincidence?

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Do they have any other anatomy that concerns you Canada? Pardon the knee jerk humor. he he.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Not that I'm aware of. Of course, I really don't spend that much time looking at men. Just sayin'.

  • In a run-heavy offense, Hill got plenty of experience blocking and that he feels will help him moving to the next level where it’s a requirement. That could help him fit in with the Bears, who will want to remain committed to the run under new offensive coordinator Mike Tice.

    Does Hill compare himself to any current NFL players?

    “Yes, I can say Calvin Johnson because he has the speed, he has the height to jump up and go get it,” said Hill of another former Georgia Tech receiver. “Yes, he’s bigger, he’s Megatron, I know that. But that’s who I compare myself to.”

  • Nice Erik.

    You know, I compare myself to Bill Gates and mark Zuckerberg.

    Tweet him and ask him to tape himself running a fucking out, then post it here.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    HA! Call me crazy but he had his pro day and if he didn't run an out there.. How in thee hell did he get a 1st round grade at his pro day?

  • All right. You guys are all older than me and if we have any that are younger then listen.

    Was this anything like Montana being traded?

    Did the hype get this big?

    Funny how history repeats itself eh?

  • R2..yes it was this big........mindset wise.

    The media didn't have the instant gratification it carries today...you couldn't see the release live....technology has it in an instant.

  • Montana was bigger Artoo. Specially cause he had multiple rings. Even as a Bears fan back then, Montana was America's QB. Peyton has no way near the Persona and Glory that Montana had.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Trac...thanks...you said what I was trying to more complete about Montana as the QB...but I think the hype the media carries is so much more today..

    I remember seeing "Joe Cool" in the K-Chiefs uniform and saying " That just ain't right"

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Also, Steve Young forced their hand. It was the same situation with Walter and Neal. Walter could have stuck around as a backup for 2-3 more years but had too much pride (unlike Emmitt). It was Young's time and the Niner's cashed in their chips. Indy isn't getting anything in return. Just didn't want to commit that much cash to an aging superstar with a bad neck. Not to mention, nobody really knows if he can still throw.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    And he's not half the QB Joe was..Plus the Niners had a HOFer and record-book-re-writer waiting to take over.

    Nine playoffs in a row for Turtlehead, the most over-rated QB of all time ... makes him the biggest choker. Yay or nay?

  • From the oooohhhhh!!!! sheite file.....

    first he "F'uped Cutty
    took Manning down
    and now he's going to screw Josh Freeman...LOL!!!!!!!

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-buccaneers-hire-exbears-oc-turner-to-be-qbs-coach-20120304,0,3891975.story

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    After looking at the great strides the Colts made at quarterback last season, I can definitely see why they made that pick up.

    Kinda like why the Bears chose to give Martz a long term extension after the great seasons Haine and Enderle had... never mind.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    tee hee hee

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Boo-Yah!

  • Major Wright, and a 2nd RDer for Brandon Marshall.

    Think Miami bites?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Gp...ain't going to happen..Is that not one of LDL inner circle boys..

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    but I wouldn't mind that trade.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I think miami vice! If they pick up a white guy with that second....

    Major Write as tubbs

    Some 2nd rd pick white guy as Crockett

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3Qsjpr1AbI&feature=related

    I will never look at our backfield the same now...DAMN YOU MB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    lol!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    btw...Crockett & Tubbs is your coin phrase brah....................
    wont take it away from yah.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    maybe that's why LDL is giving Conte & Wright aka Crocket & Tubbs so much love reminds him of home or watching to many 80's sitcom's...sheite that can't be he's from Tampa not South Beach...damn!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    booyah lobo.... boo. yah.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Why would they bite on that? A 2nd rounder with no Major is just as compelling. Major has shown next to nothing, other than being injury prone.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    don't forget the assumed and/or projected large phallus.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I agree Major is teetering on 3rd round busto-rama.

    But he's all we have to offer. If you think about it, there isn't another Bear on our roster - outside of maybe Briggs - that anybody else wants and isn't Cutler or Forte.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    On the one hand, Miami will want to keep Marshall to help them attract big FA prospects like Manning and Flynn. On the other hand, Miami might need to cut Marshall to make room for Manning.

    Wright is probably an upgrade for Miami at safety and the extra second rounder will help them out if they need to create cap space by trimming elsewhere. The extra 2nd rounder could, for example, be the right tackle they need to protect their shiny new QB - that would leave their first rounder open for a WR to replace Marshall (e.g. Floyd).

    I think the scenario that would make a trade happen would go like this:

    Miami offers Manning enough money that he wants to sign with them. The problem is, he also wants to bring his recievers with him and that takes another $5 million in cap room the Dolphins don't have.

    To make the deal happen, the Dolphins approach Marshall and ask him to restructure his contract. Marshall wants to win, but is somewhat miffed that his role might be diminished by Manning's good ol' boys club.

    The Bears make their offer - cheaply upgrade the secondary, get an extra draft pick to replace cap casulaties, and let us take an upset Marshall off your hands.

    At that point, the trade makes sense for both sides. And the Bears will have enough cap space left over for some second tier FA moves (like a Plax or Erin Henderson).

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Throw in Philbin not liking guys like Marshall and that's a done deal.

    Wet dream scenario. Draft Mercilus, Hill falls to us in the second round - or we move up in the 2nd for him using one of our third rounders - and we give Miami our third and next year's third for Marshall. That's a hot sex tamale.

    Likely that Hill will go in the first though, so we draft him, give up our second for Marshall and score so many points that defense becomes almost irrelevant. Maybe we pick up Anderson from the Pats or Jones from Tennessee.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Knox and a 2nd might do it.

  • knox ain't worth sheeite lad. He's done, toast, adios.

    If you think he was squeamish about going across the middle before, can you imagine now?

    He may come back physically, but he probably never will mentally

  • Let's assume that VJack is not obtainable, or that we decide (rightly) he just has too much potential to bust.

    What is the go-forward strategy?

    All Mario plus rook wideouts?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Why would he be unattainable and why do you think he has so much bust potential? I would argue the rookie and free agents have just as much potential to bust as VJax, if not more. I do understand VJax would come at a higher price but I think it's a chance you have to take at this point. This team is built to win now, all we're missing is the #1 wideout. Just my opinion...

  • In reply to JerseyBear:

    We need a #2 as well. Earl is the only receiver worth a damn on the roster. Even if we had V-Jack, he can be taken out of a game. Who does Cutty throw it to then? Our cap space doesn't look so hot after we've re-signed everybody. I'm beginning to think Emery won't sign either. Value FAs and good drafting.

  • Who does Cutler throw to now? Lets worry about getting a #1 before worrying about a #2. Earl could step up and be that guy. With VJax on the field it should open up the field for others with lessor talent. You may be right and Emery doesn't go after either but I really think that would be a mistake and the fan base would be up in arms.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm sure the Bears will be looking at Mario very seriously, but I have to think Emery will worry about tieing so much money up at DE, especially with the offense needing a lot of help right now.

    I think Mike Wallace would still very much be in play. He's as good as any first round wide reciever we could draft. And he's probably cheaper than Jackson.

    Failing those two options, we could look to upgrade the interior of the line (Wells or Nicks), we could take a risk on Jared Gaither (possibly saving money by loading the contract with incentives), or we could go for some second tier pickups at multiple positions.

    Specifically the game plan at reciever will have to include at least one veteran (Plax, Ward, etc.) just by virtue of the number of roster spots we have open. The plan will also likely include one high draft pick (Round 1 or 2) and one value pick (Rounds 3-5).

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    No way we give up a first and a bunch of cash for a six foot receiver. Ward is toast, Plax has value because of his size and production last year

  • Speaking of Booyah...

    Jesus, have I ever mentioned that I like boobies? Hot morons with great boobies: http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/goddess/pregnant-jessica-simpson-gets-nude-elle-reveals-baby-145818827.html

    (I've said too much haven't I?)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I am, however, over this whole Sofia Vergera kick. Yes, she's MILFy. Ok, we got it. Let's give somebody else some publicity now.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP...Did you mean Publicity or Pubicity?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB..in case you get into a tight spot and can't express your self by words:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGOJHJOWyQE

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    yes. MB..you have crossed the proverbial line here. lol

    and as for JS..meh?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, MB, MB, what are we going to do with you? I get Kate Upton (who doesn't?). Jessica Simpson? Really? I would understand if you linked to the "These Boots are Made for Walking" video but not this link. EEEKKK! My dog is smarter than her. I find a really stupid person more than a little annoying to be around, even when they're hot. She hasn't been even lukewarm for the last 35 lbs. Oh well.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Canada, she was VERY hot back in the day. Just google 'JS, boots are made for walking video'

    What can I say, I'm nostalgic my man. Btw, I think nice, big boobies CAN excuse 5-10lbs IF the extra weight is worn well and in the right places.

    Agree on the moron part, but it's not like I'd want to talk about the recent political dealings in the APAC region with her. She does look really healthy/appealing in that shot.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    She looks absolutely radiant. Motherhood is so beautiful. The miracle of life.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Yeah, but she'll look like a sack of shit for the rest of her life, and that's the last sex Eric Johnson's getting.

  • She's barefoot and pregnant, Irish. Let's not be hypocritical. Yeah, she's fat enough to be blocking out the "phant" on that magazine cover, but you can't say it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    They're re-making 21 Jump Street? Is that a joke?

  • no joke.

  • Dude. This is America. How can you be surprised? We're still burning fossil fuels.

  • I had a nightmare last night: That Roy made the roster again AND led the team in attempted passes. He dropped most of them.

    I woke up sweating.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP..Was that sweating on your brow? or your hands and feeling empathetic on why Roy drops them so much?

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Roy wears gloves. No excuses.

    The last person who could call out the sweaty palms excuse was Lester Hayes.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    yeah GP..but he uses the excuse of sweaty palms all the time...ooopppps! maybe that's for something else.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That nightmare will become true if we don't Vincent Jackson. Promise.

    Best hope for Vincent Jackson instead of Mario Williams if you want Mr. Roy Williams gone.

  • from the file just because:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtpUv4VBDhA&feature=related

    I had to put this out for you boys and girls...lol

  • I have a proposal for a change in the way the salary cap works. What if teams could trade cap space to one another just like draft picks and players?

    If the Bears failed to land Mario or VJax and ended up with cap space, they could certainly use some extra picks. How about trading the Rams or the Eagles a few million in space in exchange for another 3rd or 4th rounder?

    If a move like that means a team doesn't have to lose a key guy to free agency, they'll be interested. Teams that are rebuilding would also be looking for extra picks as they shed expensive aging players. The NFLPA would like the move because it means more money going to players (unused cap space from one team is spent on players for another). Small market owners would like it as a way to save some cash. Large market owners would like it as a way to "win now." And it could actually help parity in the league by giving teams with no good FA targets a constructive way to use their cap resources.

    What's not to like?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Can you fucking Cap And Trade the salary cap like that?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I fail to see how it promotes competitive balance - in fact, it would completely undermine the floor on player salaries that the latest CBA achieved.
    No thanks.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I thought about that. Given the new floor rules, you will have fewer complaints by the NFLPA about stingy teams, but there are a lot of ways that teams will be able to eat space without spending the money. For example, you take a guy who's happy with his contract (Peppers) and you offer him an "offensive snaps bonus" worth $5 million that will pay out if he plays at least 50% of the Bears offensive snaps. That bonus will not be paid, will count against the cap, and might even allow for a credit to the following year's cap when not paid.

    I believe we have something like that this year in Peanut's contract.

    According to my proposal, teams trading for cap space will be more likely to actually pay on those contracts rather than use incentive-laced deals that won't pay.

    Also, you can have the floor follow traded cap space... so the team picking up extra space will be also inherit a higher floor.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Hmm, how about Cap space futures and options?

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Futures already exist in the NFL, that's basically the whole point of trading for next year's draft picks - you're banking that your team will improve and the pick will be more valuable, they're banking that your team will stink and the pick will be more valuable.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    As to cap space futures, I think you would see all types of trades. You would see fixed dollar amounts, you would see percentage deals (a first rounder for 10% of next year's cap), and you would see contingent cap trades.

    An example. Imagine a team wants to rebuild and is shopping an expense vet. We could come along and offer a first round pick, and in exchange take the player and some cap space to cover his contract. But the trading team wants to have a contingent pick next depending on how well he plays (happens a lot in QB trades). So if we make the superbowl, we owe a first rounder next year as well. We say no problem, but we set up the new player's contract with a Superbowl sweetener - if the team makes the Superbowl he gets a $2 million bonus. And we include in the deal that they will get another first rounder next year, but they will also give up the extra cap space to cover the bonus.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    That would be fun. You could trade all your best players for picks, then trade your cap space for more picks. It would be like starting over.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Exactly. The Colts basically a mess right now, but they just freed up $28 million in cap space. If they hadn't resigned their DEs, they would have even more space.

    But the Colts don't want vets right now, they want a face lift. They couldn't trade Manning for anything, but they can trade the cap space. Why not float $10 million to say, Detroit, in exchange for a first round pick?

    Detroit would probably jump all over that. They could keep their whole group intact, stay in "win now" mode, and maybe even given themselves some breathing room next year by shifting the salary burden to this year's newly acquired space.

    The Colts meanwhile could get some really exciting rookies to go along with Luck. Plus, rookies come cheap out of the draft with the new rookie cap rules, so the Colts wouldn't feel the cap squeeze for a few years (and by that time maybe they're trading picks for space with someone else).

    Net result is to keep the Lions competitive longer, and get the Colts back to being competitive faster. And all of this would be regulated by the NFL's trading market. What's not to like?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I have no idea if a system like that would work out, but just on a conceptual level, you could have some teams pursuing a strategy of minimum cap space and maximum rookie power, and others building the best veteran teams money can buy. No idea if it would all work out on the balance sheets, or what it would do to parity, but it would be interesting.

  • MB...for you to go out into the New World and use at the office.... because I know how much you enjoy these....LOL!!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=u4dFkC0PVl8

  • For those with long memories, I would like to step in and take a bow here:

    I said, about I dunno - 9 months ago - that Hector was Sabu and not only that, I accurately called out that he probably flipped to informant to save his own ass:

    http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/03/07/lulzsec-hacker-spills-over-drinks/

    My score is perfect.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And for those of you new to DBB or without Elephant mem:

    This is the boy that dropped the PSN Network to it's knees for three months, embarassed Sony to the tune of a 20% stock dip, and kept you all from your MW3 for so so long...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Technically MW3 was not out yet and MB, Posse and Doc didn't have a PS3. Luckily I was on vaca most of the month the PSN was down, so I didn't feel like Gollum without his precious.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk4Ntcq5uNg

  • In reply to gpldan:

    What was that old cliche about no honor among thieves?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I think it goes something like, "there's no honor among thieves".

  • Speaking about thieves, I watch a pretty good documentary on what caused the housing bubble. Greenspan, G.W. and Congress all led the way and they should all be ashamed of what they did to this countries future. All in the guise of jump starting the economy. No honor indeed.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    The more you study things, the less you'll want the government to have their grubby paws in.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    if there is such a thing
    as government
    why not call it
    The Corporation
    responsible government means
    you have to govern with heartfelt honesty
    This is just
    the play of well heeled
    money masters
    who have no idea
    who they are
    stupid is as dishonest
    as the latest $ied scam
    money and it's mindset
    will never create a true society
    dollars and it's sense will
    always walk you down
    the road to perdition
    your course was set
    when the seed was spilled
    throw it all out as dirty dishwater........Nisargardatta

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Money, Dave. I wish governments had complete control of the money supply - but they don't. Evil, greedy bastards do.

    Take the power of controlling and issuing money away from the banks and the world of tomorrow is a paradise in comparison.

    Why is it that time of the year again ? I

    "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes her laws."
    - Mayer Amschel Rothschild. His family now controls 50% of the world's wealth.

    "It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."
    -Henry Ford

    “If Americans ever allow banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children will wake up homeless”
    - Thomas Jefferson

    "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs."
    - Thomas Jefferson

    "The government should create, issue and circulate all the currency and credit needed to satisfy the spending power of the government and the buying power of consumers ... The privilege of creating and issuing money is not only the supreme prerogative of Government, but it is the Government's greatest creative opportunity. By the adoption of these principles, the long-felt want for a uniform medium will be satisfied. The taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest..."

    - Abraham Lincoln

  • oh jesus, not again...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Setting my filter for "ignore".

    Oh wait, Chicagonow, I hate you for one more thing now.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hold on, somebody's at the door ......

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    they won't knock on your door mate.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    What was the name of the documentary, Trac?

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    I think CNBC did it. It was call House of Cards.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I love it when we agree, Trac, my brother.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    How many of the looters are behind bars? None. So there is honor among thieves.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Banks, Trac. The private money system. They're at the zenith of their evolution. Unregulated and above the law. Congress just enable them and have been aiding and abetting the greatest scandal the world has ever known since Dec 23rd,1913.

    Completely unconstitutional and the nation is blissfully unaware that this is only the beginning of their Orwellian enslavement.

    Long live the revolution.

  • When you refer to "the nation", are you talking about Ireland or Thailand?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    The United States, of course. That date is when the cartel created the Federal Reserve, which Irish very rightly points to as the greatest scam in the history of the world. It far outdoes even that grandest of all Ponzi schemes, Social Security.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I knew that, Dave.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    The Bible says that the borrower should flee from the lender as the gazelle flee's the lion.

  • A good reference is Griffin's "The Creature from Jekyll Island", ISBN-13: 978-0912986210.

    Perhaps the readership will understand Irish's well-placed zealotry after reading it. A word of warning, however - it was very difficult to finish as it absolutely pissed me off.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    That's the thing Dave, you peel back the layers and it hits you one day. And no day afterwards is the same. You sit there steaming, thinking "How can they get away with this?"

    Next year they'll have been getting away with it for a hundred years.

    Facebook. Beer. Football. Glee. Power ball.

    Nobody cares to think about where money comes from, and what it costs them.

  • I do. My best advice concerning this is to get debt free and stay that way. You can do it if you put your mind to it. I don't care how much money you make. Work hard enough at this and you will break free of these chains. Cut up the credit cards and only spend what you have to. Pay yourselves first in the form of your piggy bank and live within your means.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    The great thieves lead away the little thief.
    -- Diogenes

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    See, that right there. That's why I hang out here. What other sports blog has contributors quoting Diogenes or making arcane references to Nathan Lane (among others)?

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Well, there was that Jenny Milk blog...

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Too arcane for me. Who's Jenny Milk?

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Someone that invoked the wrath of the blog-monsters a few times. She has/had a blog on Chicagonow where she talks about pooping, not having sex with her husband, rashes of the female kind, shit like that.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    So....

    Tobijohn said in response to my comment:
    "That's why I hang out here. What other sports blog has contributors quoting Diogenes or making arcane references to Nathan Lane (among others)?"

    And you answered:
    "...that Jenny Milk blog... where she talks about pooping, not having sex with her husband, rashes of the female kind, shit like that."

    I'm supposed to take that as an insult, correct? And these "blog-monsters" you mention... who are they? You and tobijohn?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    http://www.chicagonow.com/milkin-it

    Read this tripe at your own risk Buttsteak.

    (it will decrease your IQ by an average of 20 points for every 10 seconds)

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Boy, you won't let go with the picking a fight to kill time thing will you?
    Damn, you are persistent.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Too late, MB. I found Jenny's site last night, after Posse said it was a ChicagoNow blog, and spent about an hour there. That puts me more than 7000 intelligence points in the hole. How long does it take before you start comparing feminine rashes and poop to Diogenes and Eugene O'Neil?

    PS: This post (the comment section especially) is worth burning a few brain cells:
    http://www.chicagonow.com/milkin-it/2011/04/11-reasons-not-to-become-a-princess/

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Unfortunately, she is moving on to bigger and better ways to poop on all of us, what with the constant TV pilots, segments, etc.

    Her mouth looks like it was stuck on upside down.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Nice one GP.

    Talked to a friend today who's married to a German millionairess. She won't use her credit card online. A friend of hers works in the offcie of data protection in Germany and they won't send documents over the internet, not even on HTTPS. They drive documents and deliver them by hand if they have to be sent anywhere. Nothing is secure, and what you think is secure isn't.

  • fucking ridiculous. what a miserable life spent cowering in a corner.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It has a bit of the "money under the mattress" feel to it.

  • Canada and Crunch, you might be interested in this when it comes out.
    http://jambandnews.net/?p=2755

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Thanks, Fifth.

    Sorry about the Paul crack. I was just trying to start an argument to kill time. Only 5 days and 2 hours to FA!

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    are your mates
    getting primed for Wanee
    Buddy Guy
    The Doors great
    Ray Manzarek
    Anybody and everybody
    associated with
    the Allman Bros.
    and of course
    bikini clad hoola - hoopers
    in the blistering sun

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Some of my all time favorite arguments on the blog are when the vitriol gets thrown around, as long as it's all cool in the end and we can still be friends. So apology not accepted, since it was not warranted.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    That's the last time I apologise to a Nazi.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Yeah, see what manners gets you around here?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Zombie Nazis?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    No, polite Nazis.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Nazis are always polite, "Step into zee showers, please..."

    Oh that was tasteless...

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    mother fucker, I'll keel you. that shit ain't funny man.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    When are you back in the States btw? I want to try out BF3 one of these weekend nights.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Class, civility; soon you're up to your eyes in bullshit.

    Anybody old enough to remember Mr. PolitnessMan, from the old National Lampoon mag?

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/alberto1138/50360557/

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    this one's for you
    you 5th of Old Grand Dad 101
    a shot of which
    we used to set
    on the edge of the stage
    at the Kingston Mines
    for the great
    Lefty Diz to sip
    In the early 70's the pubescent
    Rolling Stones sought him out there
    to join in onstage after their
    big $ show
    he showed them
    a thing or two
    one of my Chicago heroes
    when it came to the blues
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y6yMkbNZyw

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    I saw Lefty once in the mid '70's (probably at Kingston Mines). He fucked around so long he lost the crowd. By the time he figured it out, he went nuclear for about 20 minutes but the damage was done. I was with a few people that loved him and had really been talking him up. Needless to say, they were disappointed. I loved the 20 minutes but the 45 minutes of fucking around pretty much killed it. Oh well. I wish I could have seen him on another night but it never happened. The people I was with definitely knew their Blues artists so I was sure he had the potential to be fabulous.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    a recuring theme
    sadly
    your freinds are jerry angelo
    lefty is caleb hanie
    and you were
    an unsuspecting bears fan
    sorry about that

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    Nice to see you back huntin. The Wanee lineup looks fantastic this year, but the odds of me making it are less than 10%. Too busy. I might let one of my employees go if we can swing it without him.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Very Cool. Remind me when it's out or I'll forget. Yeah, I'm old.

  • you can call me lovie
    or you can call me phil
    or you can call me phil with
    lovie on my mind
    Remember back to
    old school---old school---old school
    monsters of the midway
    phil is strong at drafting
    lovie is strong on D
    Pep caint do it all by his lonesome
    and the scores proved
    in 2011
    that the good ones did just that
    Saints threw for 270 yds. on 26 of 37 attempts......and 30pts.
    Pack threw for 297 yds. on 28 of 38 attempts......and 27pts.
    And again for 283 yds. on 21 of 29 attempts......and 35pts.
    Lions threw for 219 yds. on 19 of 26 attempts.....and 24pts.
    Panthrz threw for 374 yds. on 27 of 46 attempts.....and 29 pts.
    Eagles threw for 219 yds. on 21 0f 38 attempts.....and 24 pts.
    C-hawks threw for 227 yds. on 19 of 31 attempts......and 38 pts.
    Rayders threw for 301 yds. on 21 of 37 attempts......and 25 pts.
    Phil with lovie in mind
    will get some help for Pep
    and Lovie via the draft........
    The super Nintendo mario
    will cost too much
    and we always seem to...
    spend on recievers
    maybe phil will correct this
    but how about this
    at #19 from the lovelie mind of phil
    FLETCHER COX
    he is big and fast and strong and raw
    298 lbs. of anchor
    on his H.S. 4x100 yd. relay team
    and some good numbers
    To combine with his
    early NFL coming out party
    old school hunti says
    no more embear-ass-ment
    fix the D
    Our O will score
    with the added field position
    lots of Gold 3's
    and a few more 7's
    buy a reciever and draft one two.....See that Doc
    the old one two
    http://www.forwhomthecowbelltolls.com/2012/2/28/2829796/fletcher-cox-shines-at-nfl-combine

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    I was wondering what happened to you. Everyone claiming to be Phil today kept reminding me. Say we're all Phil...

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    Where ya been, Huntin' my man?

  • all my 1%ers are at the beach
    they keep my hands and feet
    moving every minute on the clock
    route 0324 has been servin' up the
    Bataan death march since December
    6 ten hour days and no break in sight
    Till the snowbirds flock back north in May
    out of the house for 11 hours
    trying to fit my wife and shiloh in after that
    leaves little time for blog pleasure
    I am reading before bedtime though
    I'm the guy in the corner falling asleep
    with the drink in his hand
    I was forced into this gig for the health care
    and it is slowly killing me
    what a policy

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    Poor bastard. Keep on keepin on, mang.

  • bankers and doctors
    they are the cancer
    on this system called
    my body
    game on brother

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    Hopefully, you mean medical doctors.

  • Can no one go after Mike Wallace till March 13?

    If not, I bet everyone will be clamoring for him after FA is over. Whoever doesn't get who they want will settle for Mike Wallace. Even though Mikey's numbers are close to Rice and Moss for his first 3 years.

  • any one interested in trufant: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/football/nfl/03/08/seahawks.trufant.ap/index.html?sct=nfl_t2_a10

    I know this was posted before, but here it is again. A sign that we've shitcanned angelo: http://tracking.si.com/2012/03/07/report-bears-will-not-retain-backup-qb-caleb-hanie/?sct=nfl_t2_a14

  • Scored 8, which was better than I thought I would do. And no, despite your probable and reasonable initial guess, this is NOT the Wonderlic test...

    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=8674

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I got an 8 as well.

    Questions 1 and 7 are pretty damn hard.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I got the same two wrong. A little before my time.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I missed 1 and 3.

  • Bronco fan is an idiot. We all knew this, but here's the kick:

    Their Twitter campaign to bring him to the Broncos is hashtag #getpayton

    Unless they are trying to resurrect Walter, not sure that's going to sway Peyton very much. You never know with those Colorado Springs types.

  • ESPN Radio is saying today that Manning's most likely destination is Miami. And that he's going to want Brandon Marshall to stay, and he would like Reggie Wayne to come with him, and that Dolphins would make all that happen.

    So, Marshall is probably staying put.

    I am for NewBearinTown's play for Wallace and the Steelers, or whose idea was it that we use cap space to buy draft picks, that's not a bad idea if it can be done.

  • Jenny doesn't have a lick of on-air talent, but she has that kind of hot Chicago brunette vibe going on, and she does seem to have relentless sense of self-promotion to go with that.

    http://jennymilkowski.com/

    Somebody needs to let her know her boobs are her best feature and start pushing that up, so to speak.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    This one is my favorite, though:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gp2mM_dBu5E

    I think it was Louis CK who dubbed the term "the magic homo". Here, Jenny partners with a magic homo, who completely reverse a restaurant's fortune by painting the walls orange and green. Hilarious stuff.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Here is the definition of it, lest I get some half-cocked (get it?) accusation of homophobia:

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagicalQueer

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I love TV Tropes. Great, great site.

    You have to admit, the Magical Queer is a big improvement over the Ineffectual Weakling Filthy Skulking Molesting Queer, which is pretty much how gays were portrayed in the past.

    Also beats the Magical Breitbart with the Boyish Twinkle. Jesus, get out of the closet, Todd.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    wow that close up of her is scary.

    She looks like one of those eastern-bloc chicks who you see in a documentary leaning up against a ruined building in a neon pink mini skirt and Madonna tour tshirt, smoking 4 packs a day while swigging cheap Bulgarian vodka straight out of the bottle between alternating forced copulations and beatings from her also drunk and out of work steel worker husband igor.

    She makes me feel... dirty (but not in the good way) and sad at the same time.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Holy shit, I have my new email signature! Thanks MB!


    She looks like one of those eastern-bloc chicks who you see in a documentary leaning up against a ruined building in a neon pink mini skirt and Madonna tour tshirt, smoking 4 packs a day while swigging cheap Bulgarian vodka straight out of the bottle between alternating forced copulations and beatings from her also drunk and out of work steel worker husband igor.

    -MB, on Jenny Milk

  • In reply to gpldan:

    It would be a good bellwether to see whether anyone is actually reading my emails at work.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    most welcome GP. Happy to help.

    If/when you need help looking for a new gig, just let me know how I can help.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Daaaaaaamn.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    What an absolutely impeccable description. Wow....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Did you ever hear Jenny Love do Janis Joplin?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmuYmdSzYds

    The cigarrettes and vodka might do her some good.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Whoops, I got my Jenny's mixed up. The comment above was supposed to be posted under Jenny Love, not Milk.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Ala JLH

    http://www.theimproper.com/film/jennifer-love-hewitt-naughty-girl-maxim/4

  • In reply to gpldan:

    yuck.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jenny Milk is yuck, and yes JLH has a horse nose, and has been used up by Hollywood's A-list, but she is still looking decent enough to rock Maxim.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Ugh. She's grody.

    That thin upper lip thing, bulged out nose, big forehead... She looks like Dobi from Harry Potter and Golem made a baby with that weird looking chick who was on SNL.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Yeah, she's got a Mary Katherine Gallagher thing going, definately

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW85KbKYwYs

  • interesting article by John "Moon" Mullin, it´s a good point. about what we might expect in FA.

    http://www.csnchicago.com/football-chicago-bears/bears-talk/Free-agency-problem-Finding-winners?blockID=665828&feedID=10330

  • In reply to elcaney:

    More interesting are the comments below:

    This particular genius is called webejammin60, who was understandably upset to find that 59 other webejammins had signed up to csnchicago.com before him - what are the odds?

    "...the bears need to sign mario williams and then sign colsten and jackson, then pick up stephan hill in the draft with the first pick, then also try to get carl nicks..."

    Now why didn't we think of that?

    Sign everybody.

    Sign who?

    {In your best Gary Oldman from Leon}

    EVERYBODY!

    If we can just free up a trillion dollars in cap space .....

  • he also believes in unicorns and prolly smokes WAY too much weed on a daily basis. Sorry doc.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    easy there, man.

  • whaaaaa?!?!

  • Hey, Jamar Williams is gonna start next year!

    Possibly.

    And for the Saskatchewan Rough Riders...but hey.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    offer him a hammy sammich and an ice cold coke to come try out for us? I would.

    Guess his doc cleared his neck?

  • Okay, I'll just throw it out there, silly season is almost over.

    Imagine $40M+ in cap space plus even more picks than we have now.

    We'd free up, what, twenty million in cap space and get how many picks for dealing Forte and Peppers?

    (ducks)

  • I found a new reason to like the recently departed Anthony Adams - I took a cheap shot at PSU on twitter and he laughed...nice guy.

    And there's also this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR77tr-1K0o

  • Hey Sha-dy... can you please buy these for yourself... because I'd get my ass kicked if I bought them for myself.

    http://uncrate.com/stuff/vice-ta-bedding/

    If you do, I need to hear stories when they happen. Deal?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Haha nice find, I wonder if there are any sea men to accompany the lovely mermaids.

    By the way, I've been playing BF3 while you're gone, boning up on my vehicle warfare. The jet dog fights are sensational.

  • In reply to Shady:

    mermen!?!?! why in thee fuck... know what, never mind, I won't even ask.

    And damn you man... wtf?! You want to crush me at another game... why do you torment me so. Bastard.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Oh, you motherfuckers. I finally get the game and you fuckers jump ship to another.

    Now, what's BF3 and how can I justify it to the wife?

  • Sorry doc (and rabbit). It's actually been under discussion for a long time.

    Shady talked me into trying that horrible nazi zombie game instead of going BF3, but now it's time.

    BF3 is much more involved re: vehicular warfare. Boats, Humvees, JETS!!!!! Awesome. Can't wait to jump into it when I get back next week.

    But don’t worry we'll still all play MW3 plenty... maybe.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    oh yeah, check out the gameplay. It's more realistic than MW3 in my estimation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l1Vfutfa-E&feature=relmfu

  • Don't worry, Doc - some of us will still be playing MW3.

    Speaking of which, if you see me on tonight, send me an invite.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    check the gameplay above rabbit... look pretty bad ass maings.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That website is tuff.... Too bad i don't know much about chi-town or da bears to contribute but I like the site MB30SD...

  • In reply to OsosFan:

    Well what kind of BeasFan are ya?

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    BearsFan.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Im a Bears Fan! I've never had a fav football team but I chose Da Bears! theres something great about them I cant explain....

  • In reply to OsosFan:

    A man's character is his destiny, OsosFan. I stole that from Heraclitus.

    It's good you don't know much trivia, you can contribute right away. Take the Bears trivia test mentioned above so I can feel superior to someone on this blog. If you score more than 4, keep it to yourself, unless you score 8 or more, then post it to discredit the test. Here's the link.

    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=8674

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://www.chacha.com/gallery/2356/hot-wives-girlfriends-of-the-nfl

    Hmmm. It suggests hotness ... and then shows you Peyton Manning's wife. I'm confused.

  • Peyton isn't gay???

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Peyton's partner isn't listed. Unless my computer blocked his pic. I did get this message:

    "Please enable JavaScript in your browser to immerse yourself in our rich user experience."

    How very HR.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    #5 buttsteak: http://www.chacha.com/gallery/2356/hot-wives-girlfriends-of-the-nfl/19575

    How that's hot I have no clue

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Marsha Marsha Marsha. It's like poor Jan is invisible.

  • Bye the bye, Chris Spencer going forward? The guy is costing us $4.5M a year.

    For this? [bleacherreport.com]

    Agility
    3
    A limited athlete with below-average ability to slide laterally. He doesn't adjust well on the move and is slow to reset himself out of his stance.

    Pass Block, Speed
    3
    Has the size and quickness to be great in this area but misses on blocks and can give up the edge too often with poor timing and poor angles. Way too many penalties.

    Pass Block, Power
    4
    Lacks the flexibility and agility to sink his hips and drop his weight to take on power-rushers. Poor hand placement and angles leave him getting run over by big ends.

    Run Blocking
    5
    Lacks the leverage and the quickness to get out in front of the play. Needs to learn how to take the correct angles. Awareness is average.

    Move in Space
    3.5
    Spencer doesn't show good range on pass protection and would be much better lining up inside where he's not asked to extend.

    Pull/Trap
    4

    He's not great at leading on tosses and would rather be used setting up inside the tackle box.

    Strength
    8
    Has very good strength at the point of attack. Spencer can sit down and control a gap.

    Technique
    5
    Penalized seven times during 2011 season—far too often for a guard who is asked to clear piles in a power-run game.

    Size
    10
    Has ideal size for an interior lineman at 6’3” and 310 lbs.
    Health
    9

    Missed one start during the 2011 season.

    Overall
    54.5
    Spencer has moved around during his career, but settled in at guard this season. In Mike Martz’s scheme he was a poor fit, but may be better off in a power-run scheme instituted by Mike Tice during the 2012 season.

  • Piss poor, eh? Slot Lance in at RG and we only have to worry about the fat fool over at LT. He can backup the tackles if we find a legit pass blocker, and Edwin can cover the guards ... or CW back to LT, slot Edwin in at LG and Lance at RG. Surely that's a better option than having the revolving doors at LT?

  • He's essentially an expensive insurance policy for the guys on the interior. That being said, do not be surprised if he's starting at either spot this year, particularly since it sounds like a moral certitude that Chris Williams is moving back to Tackle this year. Why? I have no fucking clue. I'm absolutely stumped why he's moving back outside.

  • http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1088688-chicago-bears-free-agency-tracking-2012-signings-targets-and-rumors

    Good read.

    Disturbing thought - Mike Adams poor combine showing (and the fact that his highlight reel merely outlines how poor a blocker he is), may result in the Bears taking him, rather than shelling out ten million for a guy to do the job. He's J'Marcus Webb II from what I've seen. Definite bust.

  • Irish,

    The good news (hopefully) is that our GM now isn't a bloody ponce and actually had to pick talent as his previous job. Let's hope he's the type who'll see a guy like BJ and pass... instead of 'lucking into' him because he 'mysteriously fell' in the draft, just to go out in the second game for the entire season for the exact reason no one else wanted him.

    Fuck I still loathe you angelo.

  • Ruh Roh! Ya think?

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/39199/shortage-of-cornerbacks-in-chicago

    Could the Bears draft a corner in the 1st round?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    The Bears could trade up for Janoris Jenkins. What say you?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Oh please god Trac (see how I did that?).

    How about a franchise CB to pair with Peanut in dre k? Would LOVE to see that... unless there's a guy wh can fill a more serious/necessary gap still on the board (like one of the two projected 1st rd tackles... but if he 'falls' to us, I would probably run the other way)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    On second thought, ixnay on Jenkins.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W-Lj8aEN10&feature=fvst

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I also saw another video where the narrator said not only does Jenkins remind him of Pacman Jones on the field, but his conduct off the field is eerily similar as well. Don't think he'll be coming to Chicago anytime soon.

  • "When are you back in the States btw? I want to try out BF3 one of these weekend nights."

    I'm hoping to shake off the opposite time thing after a couple days back. I should be online tues or wed night tho.

    BF3?!?!?! I thought you didn't want to spend on it?

    And don't try and fucking swindle me son… you and shady have been playing BF up the whole time I've been gone so that the two of you can absolutely fuck me up when I come on and flail around like a noob in a game with totally diff controls and tricks... haven't you? HAVEN'T YOU!?!?

    Motherfuckers. I see what you're doing there. God damn it, you bastards couldn't just wait for me could you? DAMN IT!

    (too paranoid?)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You sound like a crazy ex-GF MB, settle down. Or as the blog whisperer would say, you have to be dom-inant. Tssss.

    Sea men. Get it? nm

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's called Redbox, maing.

    Yes, I'm way too cheap to buy BF3 before I figure out whether I like it or not. I'm either going to prestige again here or switch games....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I bet you see men... feeg.

    Hahahahaha: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=N6UVE1U5Pkw

    Nice rabbit. presige AGAIN? damn man... 10 days and 80 ranks? Work/sleep/eat much?

    Bastards. When I get back we're all going to BF3. Let's do this!

  • If you are Phil Emery, a guy many in the league think is a good head scout, but not GM material, do you demonstrate how big your balls are by handing VJack a $12M/yr contract?

    Ballsy. Brass ballsy.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    i think he's GOT to be smart GP, he has to make some big assed picks that work out to be multi-year starters.

    I think a big assed FA pick up to really move the needle for the right guy is also big for him. If he's going to be a good GM, he's gotta make his mark quickly.

  • If I'm Phil Emery, I'm approaching the draft thinking that I can make quality picks that will yield 4-5 starters for 2012. So in FA I'm probably looking at players in positions that are thin in the draft. Basically the thinking would be that if the right guy is there, I'll know to take him, but there's nothing I can do if someone else scoops up all the good players first.

    The draft is full of recieving talent, really in all seven rounds. DE, on the other hand, is kinda thin. I could see Emery balking at over-paying for V-Jax, Colston or any of the other FA guys because there's a lot of talent in the draft. But I could see him aggressively going after Mario because the draft is a risky place to build the pass rush this year.

    The talent is there in Round 1, but outside of that, we could really struggle to find an upgrade from Izzy.

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